[03:27] <RAOF> So, how much do we care that it looks like mesa 7.12 will ship with only radeon, intel, and nouveau 3D drivers?
[05:11] <bryceh> RAOF, what else do we support?
[05:12] <RAOF> sis, unichrome, mga, savage, tdfx, r128
[05:13] <RAOF> Well, for values of “support” equal to “ship DRI drivers for and sort of accept patches to fix things”.
[05:13] <bryceh> right, I meant, what do we actually put any time into supporting
[05:20] <RAOF> Oh.  Intel, radeon, and nouveau :)
[05:20] <RAOF> I presume that savage, at least, does something that people find useful because we're carrying a patch for it.
[05:20] <tjaalton> tormod supports savage
[05:21] <tjaalton> and has improved it upstream
[05:21] <bryceh> we've got a fair number of openchromers, although dunno if that works with mesa/unichrome or not
[05:21] <bryceh> if sis works with sisusb and some of the other virtual gfx stuff, it could be interesting
[05:22] <tjaalton> RAOF: is there a thread about it on the list?
[05:23] <RAOF> mid.gmane.org/4E208571.90805@vmware.com
[05:23] <RAOF> http://mid.gmane.org/4E208571.90805@vmware.com
[05:24] <RAOF> Is, I think, the operative mail; tormod will want to respond there (and to update savage to the new mesa API)
[05:26] <tjaalton> ah right
[08:05] <RAOF> Ah, mesa.  Because there's no onerous packaging task that can't be made more fiddly by needing to accomodate proprietary alternatives.
[13:12] <charlie-tca> I have a bug awaiting a upload of x11-common, any idea when that might happen?
[13:13] <charlie-tca> bug 804734 is holding up the Xubuntu images for oneiric
[13:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804734 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Please ship 60xdg_path-on-session like gdm (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804734
[15:07] <charlie-tca> bug 804734 is holding up the Xubuntu images for oneiric; any idea when the next upload for x11-common will be?
[15:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804734 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Please ship 60xdg_path-on-session like gdm (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804734
[17:36] <charlie-tca> bug 804734 is holding up the Xubuntu images for oneiric; any idea when the next upload for x11-common will be?
[17:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 804734 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Please ship 60xdg_path-on-session like gdm (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/804734
[17:38] <tjaalton> we heard you
[17:40] <tjaalton> though i'm on vacation and don't have the sshkey handy to push the release, so can't help
[17:41] <charlie-tca> Hard to tell if anyone heard it if no one responds in 4 hours, really. Thanks for at least acknowledging it.
[17:43] <tjaalton> bryceh: around? ^^
[18:30] <bryceh> tjaalton, yes just got back from doctors.  What's up?
[19:10] <tjaalton> bryceh: the bug charlie-tca mentioned, maybe you could upload current git to oneiric, my laptop installation has issues, and the screen host doesn't have the ssh key it seems :)
[19:10] <bryceh> tjaalton, can do
[19:10] <bryceh> tjaalton, has it been tested (does it need testing?)
[19:11] <tjaalton> bryceh: great, thanks. no it's simple, dunno if there are other changes staged
[19:11] <bryceh> xorg (1:7.6+7ubuntu2) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[19:11] <bryceh>   * add debian/local/Xsession.d/60x11-common_xdg_path to set
[19:11] <bryceh>     xdg path depending on the selected session    
[19:11] <bryceh>     (compatible with lightdm, gdm and kdm now) (LP: #804734)
[19:11] <bryceh>  -- Didier Roche <didrocks@ubuntu.com>  Wed, 06 Jul 2011 09:39:17 +0200
[19:12] <bryceh> that's the candidate?
[19:12] <bryceh> yup looks like
[19:12] <tjaalton> yes
[19:13] <charlie-tca> Thank you, tjaalton and bryceh 
[19:15] <bryceh> tjaalton, charlie-tca: uploaded
[19:16] <bryceh> hmm
[19:16] <bryceh> $ git push origin ubuntu
[19:16] <bryceh> Counting objects: 7, done.
[19:16] <bryceh> Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
[19:16] <bryceh> Compressing objects: 100% (4/4), done.
[19:16] <bryceh> Writing objects: 100% (4/4), 455 bytes, done.
[19:16] <bryceh> Total 4 (delta 2), reused 0 (delta 0)
[19:16] <bryceh> error: unable to create temporary sha1 filename ./objects/52: Read-only file system
[19:16] <bryceh> fatal: failed to write object
[19:16] <bryceh> error: unpack failed: unpack-objects abnormal exit
[19:16] <bryceh> To ssh://bryce-guest@alioth.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/debian/xorg.git
[19:16] <bryceh>  ! [remote rejected] ubuntu -> ubuntu (n/a (unpacker error))
[19:16] <ubot4> bryceh: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[19:16] <bryceh> error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://bryce-guest@alioth.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/debian/xorg.git'
[19:17] <tjaalton> change the hostname to git.d.o on .git/config
[19:17] <tjaalton> and try again
[19:17] <bryceh> tjaalton, thanks that did it
[19:17] <tjaalton> niice
[19:19] <tjaalton> fallout of the alioth upgrade
[19:19] <bryceh> I'm surprised they didn't do some virtual host redirecting or something to make the transition smoother
[19:20] <bryceh> heh, git has such cryptic error messages sometimes.  but easy enough to fix, thanks.
[19:20] <tjaalton> kibi had a blog post about that, with hints to do it on the client
[19:20] <tjaalton> but i've just changed the configs, easy enough
[20:11] <bryceh> tjaalton, push your -synaptics changes
[20:12] <bryceh> oh you probably can't.  well, put it on your todo list for when you get back
[20:12] <bryceh> tjaalton, you got mad last time I fixed it for you so not gonna do it now ;-)
[22:36] <bryceh> eh, crazy how many bug reports aren't at all actionable by us