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minus_	yagoo, Thanks!	00:00
yagoo	ctl-z doesnt turn it off.. if u want to see list of background apps in bash.. "jobs" shows..	00:01
he\|\|phyre	hey everybody	00:01
minus_	yagoo, I see. Awesome.	00:01
yagoo	(ctl-z suspends, application is frozen) .. but if you want to kill if you can use "kill -9 <processid>" for what its worth..	00:03
minus_	yagoo, Is there a way to put programs in the background wihtout suspending them?	00:03
yagoo	minus_, if u typed ctl-z, you can type "bg %#" (# as for the number from the jobs list)	00:04
th0r	minus_: bg?	00:04
minus_	yagoo, I actually looked in top to see if mencoder was stuck in something. But I guess I didn't look hard enough :P	00:04
yagoo	(type "help fg" or "help bg" .. fg/bg are bash-builtin commands)	00:04
minus_	yagoo, th0r: I'll try that out.	00:04
yagoo	minus_, i believe u can type "bg <command>" as well...	00:05
minus_	Damn.. How have I missed the "help" command. It's like a mini "man"	00:05
yagoo	minus_, no.. "help" is a bash-only builtin for referencing its builtins	00:05
yagoo	it's very useful for bash scripters.. (help test)	00:06
yagoo	man bash is a big wasteful manual.. a monster to decipher	00:06
minus_	yagoo, 3653 rows. Now that is something :D	00:07
minus_	yagoo, too bad mplayer had 6758 rows :P	00:08
yagoo	minus_, /usr/share/doc/packagename is also locations where there can be examples for example -- (mencoder package is it?-- /usr/share/doc/mencoder)	00:08
allowoverride	what is the hotkey/cmd to pull up gnome panel without a mouse? to select with keybrd? i forgot lol thanks!	00:08
intel_ix	Is there anyone who can tell me how to check if the root.disk file is damaged, and/or how to fix it from windows.	00:08
yagoo	allowoverride, look up your keyboard shortcuts.. should be in there.. it may be ctl-esc or with superwin key	00:09
Kopiko	Hi - I have a computer with Ubuntu Server 10.04 running on it with CSF, but weird things are happening.	00:09
Kopiko	For example, even if I specify port 7465 in UDP_OUT in /etc/csf/csf.conf, it still gets blocked and shows up in	00:09
Kopiko	./var/log/messages.	00:09
Kopiko	Does anyone know why?	00:09
yagoo	intel_ix, screwn windows.. just boot the ubuntu grub livecd and do an e2fsck	00:09
allowoverride	yagoo: um, thats on the panel	00:09
nightrid3r	allowoverride so just explain your mouse doesn't work	00:10
allowoverride	someone know its for sure, i asked about a year ago lol	00:10
yagoo	allowoverride, no clue.. maybe look up anything to do with 'accessibility'	00:10
allowoverride	its a simple hotkey, its like standard, my gawd	00:10
allowoverride	i just forgot it	00:10
yagoo	allowoverride, then that's old a year.. something else for sure must of come along the way	00:10
allowoverride	yagoo: you obviously dont know it, anyone else	00:11
worstadmin	allowoverride, Love that name	00:11
yagoo	allowoverride, well X is for mice primarily.. so i dont see how you are expecting anyone to know	00:11
yagoo	to not use the mouse.. people look into "accessibility" features..	00:11
allowoverride	welp, its not fnc-esc lol. thats puts desktop to sleep lolol	00:12
allowoverride	worstadmin: yours too ;)	00:12
allowoverride	its from apache conf	00:12
minus_	allowoverride, What do you mean by "pull up gnome panel" ?	00:12
kiichiro	How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup	00:12
allowoverride	yes minus without a mouse, its my screen is too big lol	00:12
allowoverride	actually that reminds me, there is also a hotkey for window size something +	00:13
allowoverride	ugh... i should right this stuff down	00:13
allowoverride	i used to have a cmd book, but i lost it during last move	00:13
allowoverride	maybe page up/down	00:13
yagoo	allowoverride, you're swarming with the wrong things.. you said it was a year ago. Maybe it's not in ubuntu anymore. I'd say you ask in #gnome..	00:13
minus_	allowoverride, Hang on. I'll check if there is a keyboard shortcut somewhere	00:13
allowoverride	thanks	00:14
minus_	allowoverride, Do you have a menubutton on your keyboard?	00:14
minus_	should be between alt-gr and right-ctrl	00:14
allowoverride	its like a standard hotkey, kinda like cntrl-P ya know	00:14
minus_	ok	00:14
allowoverride	gr?	00:14
allowoverride	greece?	00:14
allowoverride	heheh	00:14
grell	hey	00:15
allowoverride	ctrl-alt arrows move between desktops	00:15
grell	hi there!	00:15
minus_	allowoverride, ctrl-alt-tab?	00:15
allowoverride	im looking for what pulls up the gnome menu so ican mouse around	00:15
minus_	"move between the panel and the desktop"	00:15
allowoverride	nope	00:15
allowoverride	that moves between open windows	00:15
grell	hey someone there knows how to install de phpmychat?!	00:16
minus_	allowoverride, You sure? When I press ctrl-alt-tab, I can go to the panel	00:16
allowoverride	actually so does alt-tab then shirft to go backwards	00:16
grell	hey someone there knows how to install de phpmychat?!	00:16
szal	!repeat \| grell	00:16
ubottu	grell: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	00:16
allowoverride	nope, not me	00:16
* yagoo thinks allowoverride is asking on how to set "focus" on the panel.		00:16
allowoverride	its lke ctrl esc f1 something like that	00:16
yagoo	Yah there's a shortcut for that.. if you asked the question properly..	00:16
allowoverride	with alt--F2 where can i find window for mappings per suggestion earlier	00:17
grell	Oh well	00:17
yagoo	allowoverride, alt-d, or maybe ctl-d tapped twice	00:17
kiichiro	How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup	00:17
allowoverride	nope that will close a window	00:17
allowoverride	or shell	00:17
grell	see you!	00:17
minus_	I can at least focus the panel with ctrl-alt-tab	00:17
allowoverride	good greif	00:17
allowoverride	ill be back	00:17
yagoo	allowoverride, look at your keyboard list	00:17
yagoo	as i said long long long ago	00:18
minus_	Though: I'm running JoliOS which is built on Ubuntu	00:18
allowoverride	yagoo: thats on the friggen panel,,, silly	00:18
allowoverride	lolol	00:18
yagoo	allowoverride, can you confirm my belief what you want?	00:18
yagoo	allowoverride, you want "focus" on the panel or not?	00:18
allowoverride	for furture ref	00:18
allowoverride	http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/2289.html	00:18
minus_	allowoverride, You could always press alt-f2 and start gnome-control-center	00:18
yagoo	allowoverride, cuse u sure aren't asking the question properly	00:19
minus_	and check your own keyboard binds	00:19
allowoverride	ok, just so you all know who didnt,,, its alt-F1 try it ;) thats what i wanted	00:19
allowoverride	im out, l8	00:19
minus_	alt-f1 starts a terminal for me	00:19
minus_	that doesn't really "focus" the panel	00:20
minus_	o.O	00:20
yagoo	minus_, i think he was trolling	00:20
yagoo	lol	00:20
yagoo	told him twice to check his own keyboard settings	00:20
Centallith	Ctrl+alt+f2 start Superterm. Ubuntu's master terminal.	00:20
BDR	??bison	00:22
BDR	!info bison	00:24
ubottu	bison (source: bison): A parser generator that is compatible with YACC. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.1.dfsg-3 (natty), package size 456 kB, installed size 1768 kB	00:24
quittix3	hello, I need help with something on ubuntu. I've downloaded testdisk from here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download And I don't know how to start it up and use it. How do I?	00:24
jimubao	what is a good ide for php development on ubuntu ?	00:25
leeloo_	I have something writing to my SSD at 300k/s and cannot find what file it is - tried iotop, iostat, etc. Any ideas?	00:25
szal	!info testdisk	00:26
ubottu	testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-2 (natty), package size 1558 kB, installed size 4612 kB	00:26
goober12	q	00:26
szal	quittix3: forget about your download & run 'sudo apt-get install testdisk'	00:27
szal	quittix3: rule #1: when looking for software, first look in your favourite package management application	00:28
quittix3	When I do it gives me this: :~$ sudo apt-get install testdisk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package testdisk	00:28
van7hu	hello	00:29
van7hu	could my dell machine run ubuntu?	00:29
szal	quittix3: what *buntu version?	00:29
quittix3	11	00:29
quittix3	is testdisk compatible with 11? I have an old ubuntu 9 live cd around somewhere if it isnt compatible with the newer version	00:30
fuho	quit	00:31
DynamicFail	i'm currently unable to update my system	00:32
sorak	anybody know whats up with Realplayer? i think i need it to make hangouts on google+ work, but their site says its discontinued. very unhappy.	00:33
DynamicFail	Not all updates can be installed	00:33
ctmjr	quittix3, you need to add the universe repo to get testdisk	00:33
quittix3	I have that enabled\	00:33
* szal finds it highly unlikely that some install would come w/ universe not enabled		00:33
szal	van7hu: "Dell machine" is a wide field comprising a host of different hardware from >20 years of manufacturing history	00:34
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ctmjr	szal, then he is screwing up some where else it is in universe and he cannot install it where would you start	00:35
kierge	how do i both download and upload photos to and from facebook using ubuntu ?	00:35
Barnabas	kierge, using FireFox?	00:35
kierge	Barnabas, thank you. what extension ?	00:36
Barnabas	kierge, why would you need an extension for uploading a picture ?	00:36
szal	quittix3: 'grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list' -> paste to pastebin	00:37
kiichiro	How do I set it up so my xubuntu box doesn't have a login screen and set it up so teamviewer automatically opens upon startup	00:37
szal	kiichiro: define 'doesn't have a login screen'	00:38
kiichiro	doesn't require a login	00:38
quittix3	szal: what do you mean by pastebin?	00:38
szal	!paste \| quittix3	00:39
ubottu	quittix3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	00:39
th0r	kiichiro: under System-LoginWindow set up for an automatic logon. Then put teamviewer in the autostart programs for the user that is automatically logged on.	00:39
quittix3	you want me to type grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list into that patebin thing?	00:40
kiichiro	it says show the screen for choosing who will login, has log in as (gray box) automatically	00:40
szal	quittix3: lol, no, what use would that have..	00:41
quittix3	oh nvm into the terminal then paste what it teels me into pastebin	00:41
Barnabas	quittix3, ctrl+alt+t	00:41
th0r	kiichiro: on the Security tab check Enable Automatic Login and then choose the user	00:41
szal	quittix3: I want you to type that in the terminal & paste the output (preferably including what you entered) into the pastebin	00:41
Barnabas	a black box will appear called a terminal	00:42
Barnabas	type it in there	00:42
RenatoSilva	how to exclude filters in synaptic? exclude button doesn't work, so I need to hack into the files...	00:42
Barnabas	paste the output to pastebin	00:42
szal	Barnabas: unnecessary effort, he already had a terminal open for apt-get ;)	00:42
Barnabas	ok	00:42
Barnabas	anyways	00:42
kiichiro	how do I find the security tab?	00:42
Barnabas	he did not seem to realize :-)	00:42
Infernet	hey all	00:43
th0r	kiichiro: under System-LoginWindow set up for an automatic logon.	00:43
szal	quittix3: then give us the URL the pastebin gives you	00:43
quittix3	ok, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/646128/	00:43
kiichiro	There is a gray box under the auto login	00:44
kiichiro	how do I find the security tab to allow me to set that account for autologin	00:44
KM0201	quittix3: what are you tring to do?	00:44
szal	quittix3: unusually condensed, but should work, unless there is a maximum number of arguments apt can parse as repository descriptors	00:45
quittix3	KM0201: im trying to install testdisk	00:45
KM0201	!info testdisk	00:45
ubottu	testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-2 (natty), package size 1558 kB, installed size 4612 kB	00:45
szal	KM0201: apparently his apt system doesn't find the package, even though universe is enabled	00:45
szal	!info testdisk maverick	00:45
KM0201	szal: way i look at it, universe is NOT enabled	00:45
ubottu	testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.11-1 (maverick), package size 1510 kB, installed size 4672 kB	00:45
szal	KM0201: see the upper half of the paste	00:46
ctmjr	gee go figure	00:46
KM0201	hmm, thats wierd, its in there twice	00:46
szal	ctmjr: ?	00:46
szal	KM0201: I suspect someone manipulated the sources.list by hand; it's not the default appearance, afaik	00:47
KM0201	quittix3: try removing all the # signs you see there, and see if that will let you install it	00:47
KM0201	szal: definitely	00:47
Barnabas	apt-get update then upgrade	00:47
KM0201	?	00:48
Barnabas	after editing the sources.list	00:48
szal	Barnabas: why upgrade?	00:48
Barnabas	or apt-get install	00:48
KM0201	Barnabas: well, yeah... apt-get update.. i did forget that, then apt-get install testdisk	00:48
Barnabas	anyways, if anything new turns up the auto update tool will pick up on it anyways	00:49
quittix3	KM0201: What # signs and where?	00:49
KM0201	quittix3: you don't see the # signs in that paste?	00:49
quittix3	yes	00:49
KM0201	quittix3: all the ones in front of a line that starts with "deb"	00:49
kiichiro	on the system login I cannot choose my account to auto sign in	00:49
quittix3	what about them?	00:49
* pappa_bear Joins and waves hello!		00:49
sputnick	hi there	00:49
BDR	thanks ctmjr and others for your help over the last few days - I'll come back once I can reintroduce myself to Linux + Internet connection.	00:49
KM0201	quittix3: remove the # signs... (nothing else) then run sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install testdisk	00:49
sputnick	anyone can send me the output of "ping acsid.net" please ?	00:50
szal	KM0201, quittix3: well, yes, the whitespace following the # as well	00:50
sputnick	doesn't work @home	00:50
ministerdude	is there a trick to doing a straight instal/dual boot of windows?	00:50
quittix3	KM0201: What # signs? Where do you want me to get rid of them from?	00:50
KM0201	szal: that shouldn't be necessary	00:50
KM0201	quittix3: are you looking at your pastebin you gave us?	00:51
pappa_bear	can someone tell me where the X configuration file is?	00:51
quittix3	yes	00:51
KM0201	quittix3: do you see lines 10-15, how there's a # sign, at the beginning of each line?	00:51
szal	sputnick: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/acsid.net	00:51
quittix3	yes, i do	00:51
KM0201	quittix3: you need to delete those pound signs.	00:51
Barnabas	sputnick, unreachable from here	00:51
zackary	hey	00:51
sputnick	thnaks szal	00:51
zackary	hello	00:51
quittix3	ok	00:51
KM0201	(and the space, which is a good point)... so that it lines up w/ the ones above)	00:52
sputnick	thnaks Barnabas	00:52
Barnabas	have you enabled ICMP ping to your router	00:52
sputnick	not sure	00:52
KM0201	quittix3: are you saying you dont know how to do that	00:52
sputnick	I will purge iptables	00:52
kiichiro	I'm at the login screen and am wondering how to set my account to auto login, I set it to not ask for password	00:52
arfbtwn	sputnick: same as Barnabas' result, though I get an IP reply for it	00:52
jipsy	how to have two sata in one computer?	00:52
arfbtwn	sputnick: starting to get replies now	00:52
Barnabas	sputnick, IP too here	00:52
KM0201	kiichiro: that's under "Login Window"...	00:52
Barnabas	but without an ICMP allow a ping is not possible	00:53
arfbtwn	64 bytes from ns38938.ovh.net (91.121.18.134): icmp_req=84 ttl=50 time=71.7 ms	00:53
szal	pappa_bear: unless you have installed a proprietary driver, X is configured on-the-fly & usually doesn't have a configuration file.. if it does have one, however, it's either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or split into several files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/	00:53
Barnabas	eventough web / ftp may be open	00:53
KM0201	sputnick: i get nothing...	00:53
Barnabas	or other	00:53
kiichiro	I don't have a thing under system called login window	00:53
kiichiro	I only have a login screen	00:53
sputnick	arfbtwn can ping oO	00:53
KM0201	kiichiro: ... ok, then login screen	00:53
kiichiro	this is while signed in under the system tab	00:53
quittix3	KM0201: I dont see how this will help, but here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/646131/	00:53
jipsy	how to have 2 sata in one computer?	00:54
KM0201	quittix3: now, sudo apt-get update	00:54
sputnick	arfbtwn: do you have dnsmasq or such ?	00:54
ministerdude	How do I partition my drive for a dual boot?	00:54
kiichiro	it will not let me select my own account for auto login	00:54
KM0201	quittix3: wait a second... did you remove the #sign from your source list, or from the pastebin?	00:54
centHOGG	ministerdude: you got paypal?	00:54
ministerdude	I do... why	00:54
arfbtwn	sputnick: I'm behind a wireless router, so it's just talking to Orange's DNS servers	00:54
quittix3	pastebin	00:54
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szal	centHOGG: what's that question for?	00:54
KM0201	quittix3: lol.. thats a good one..	00:54
centHOGG	hire me :)	00:54
seahunter	can someone point me in the right direction for reading material for linux+ certification by chance???	00:54
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KM0201	quittix3: you need to remove the # signs from your source list!	00:55
arfbtwn	sputnick: I get a response from ssh too	00:55
Barnabas	sputnick, perhaps its a DNS setup change that have not replicated globally yet	00:55
jipsy	how to connect two sata in one computer?	00:55
quittix3	I cant..	00:55
sputnick	Barnabas: no change made	00:55
aeon-ltd	jipsy: two sata what?	00:55
quittix3	i just typed in "	00:55
KM0201	..	00:55
KM0201	quittix3: why can't you?	00:55
jipsy	two hard disks in one computer	00:55
KM0201	editing the source list is very simple	00:56
KM0201	jipsy: of course you can, but thats not really ubuntu related	00:56
szal	centHOGG: this is (1) not helpful, and (2) iirc, advertising commercial services is not allowed on Freenode	00:56
jipsy	how can I manage that using linux?	00:56
jipsy	can you guide me?	00:56
quittix3	(sorry for the 2 lines, accidentally pressed enter) i just typed in "grep -i universe /etc/apt/sources.list" and it gave me what i showed you in the pastebin	00:56
centHOGG	ok ok... ministerdude google it for free then	00:56
ministerdude	I just need to dual boot so I can use itunes	00:57
Barnabas	jipsy, first of all how did you connect your two drives to your motherbord / disk controller	00:57
jipsy	done	00:57
KM0201	quittix3: ok, so you don't know how to edit your source list... type this in a terminal sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	00:57
KM0201	quittix3: lemme know when it opens up	00:57
ctmjr	!mount > jipsy	00:57
Barnabas	jipsy, can you see your drives in your BIOS	00:57
ubottu	jipsy, please see my private message	00:57
szal	centHOGG: this is not helpful either	00:57
quittix3	KM0201: Now what?	00:58
jipsy	I used two cables to connect to the motherboard and another two for power	00:58
KM0201	quittix3: do you have your source list open?	00:58
Barnabas	jipsy, cool	00:58
jipsy	thnx! what's next?	00:58
Barnabas	jipsy, if you can then see your drives in your bios, you can probably already see them in linux as well	00:58
Barnabas	only linux does not know how to mount the new second drive	00:59
jipsy	hmmm you know the path in bios where I can see it? the raid in bios is disabled by the way	00:59
KM0201	quittix3: do you ahve your source list open?	00:59
samuel	hello guys	00:59
sputnick	is acsid.net works now ?	01:00
Barnabas	jipsy, the path in bios ?	01:00
samuel	anyone know if some sort of program that monitors a device via ping and sends an email alert if its not found???	01:00
quittix3	KM0201: The terminal just said a whole bunch of stuff, but it doesnt say sourcedisk anywhere	01:00
jipsy	I can go to bios alright.. then go to advance... from there im lost.	01:00
sputnick	samuel: look nagios	01:00
Manhose	Is it true you guys have a bot with chat macros for everything	01:00
KM0201	quittix3: can i PM you, cuz you're not following	01:00
quittix3	yes?	01:00
KM0201	and your source list is screwed up enough	01:00
sputnick	samuel: or for a very simple need it's easy to script	01:01
sputnick	what do you want to test ? samuel ?	01:01
Barnabas	jipsy, bios'es are quite different from make to make, but look for a menu item called disk or hard disks	01:01
Manhose	Guys? Is it true you guys have a bot with chat macros for everything?	01:01
jipsy	ill be right back!	01:01
sputnick	see ya	01:01
sputnick	jipsy.	01:01
ctmjr	!bot	01:01
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Manhose	Thanks	01:02
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sputnick	samuel: in crontab	01:03
sputnick	ping &>/dev/null -c1 foobar.tld \|\| ping -c1 \| mail -s "alert, foobar.tld don't ping anymore !" -- samuel@mil.tld	01:04
samuel	sputnick, just check an ip camera if its working, however I want a more complete solution. I have a script that does just that, however I am thinking about putting up some more cameras and other devices so I am looking for something that might be easy to expand upon in the future	01:04
sputnick	samuel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nagios	01:05
samuel	sputnick, thanks very much	01:05
sputnick	samuel: can you ping acsid.net for me please ?	01:05
samuel	sure	01:05
samuel	hold on	01:05
sputnick	:)	01:05
sadi	hello	01:06
sputnick	hi sadi	01:06
sadi	sputnick hi	01:06
sadi	sputnick can u help me please	01:07
samuel	sputnick, ns38938.ovh.net time about 180	01:07
sadi	:)	01:07
samuel	sputnick, although I am in mexico	01:07
sputnick	ok, thanks	01:07
sputnick	sadi: don't ask to ask	01:07
samuel	:)	01:07
samuel	just ask	01:07
samuel	:)	01:07
sadi	sputnick I've problem with sound.I dont get sound through the speaker but get sound through the headphone what to do now?	01:09
samuel	alsamixer	01:09
samuel	make sure that its not muted	01:09
seahunter	can someone point me in the right direction for reading material for linux+ certification by chance???	01:09
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sadi	I use ubuntu 10.04 sputnick	01:09
sputnick	http://pastie.org/2229289 sadi	01:09
sadi	Samuel I already do that	01:10
sputnick	sadi: do all the things in my URL and give us the reply for point 8	01:10
Dr_Willis	hmmmm	01:11
sadi	sputnick for 8 it says, Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono	01:13
sputnick	sadi: I don't care, did you ear something ?	01:13
sputnick	=)	01:13
sadi	not at all	01:13
sputnick	is the ghetto blaster "on" ?	01:14
kierge	is there an ubuntu application that will assist me in arranging or adding/removing photos from facebook ? i'm not very good using facebook website itself.	01:14
sadi	ghetto blaster?? where I found it??	01:14
sputnick	kierge: curl or better : perl + WWW::Mechanize	01:14
kierge	i was looking for something with a gui and easy to use	01:15
sputnick	that needs some time to know how to use it, but after you will be a poweruser !	01:15
sputnick	:)	01:15
sadi	sputnick there is no alsaconf at ma laptop	01:16
sputnick	sadi: install alsa alsa-utils	01:16
sputnick	sudo apt-get install alsa alsa-utils	01:16
sputnick	or use synaptic	01:16
sadi	I've does alsabase ,alsamixer,alsa-utilites	01:16
sputnick	?	01:17
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sadi	sputnick I've those alsabase ,alsamixer,alsa-utilites	01:17
sputnick	you need "alsa-utils" package	01:18
sputnick	is the sound have had works or you have a fresh install sadi ?	01:19
josepablo	juegos	01:19
RenatoSilva	I just did crap, it did exist /root/.bashrc but I created one under /root/something/.bashrc, then there I moved it up overwriting the original .bashrc!!!! How to recover from this?!!!	01:20
Owner	Hey I was just on here	01:20
sadi	My sound have had work on only at headphone nt at its speaker	01:20
sadi	I already checked it now again	01:20
Owner	and I restarted my computer after setting it to not require a password and I forgot my username, is there any way I can get my username without logging in	01:20
RenatoSilva	how a standard ubuntu /root/.bashrc look like?	01:21
sadi	sputnick My sound have had work on only at headphone nt at its speaker .I already checked it now again	01:21
sputnick	RenatoSilva: did you mad some improvements in .bashrc or you just want a fresh one ?	01:22
sadi	sputnick is there any thing that can open all the channel at a time?	01:22
sadi	by using command line??	01:22
sputnick	RenatoSilva: sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc	01:23
HackerII	i like what you said at the bottom sputnick rok on man.	01:23
sputnick	sadi: try this http://pastie.org/2229324	01:24
Owner	is there a way I can get my username on linux, I forgot what it was since it's been set	01:24
sputnick	whoami	01:24
sputnick	Owner...	01:24
eagleserver	Owner.. thats probly ure name	01:24
RenatoSilva	sputnick: I don't recall customizing it, so a fresh one from a reliable source is pretty welcome!!!	01:25
eagleserver	if thats what it called when u logged into xchat	01:25
RenatoSilva	sputnick: hmmm!!!!	01:25
szal	Owner: ls -lA /home/ <- the user dirs are named after the users	01:25
RenatoSilva	sputnick: are you sure that's the root version???	01:25
BillClinton	hi there. I am trying to get scim set up so I can type in Pinyin but when I try to install the Simplex pinyin package from set up it freezes	01:25
eagleserver	szal, assuming he can log into it at all :)	01:25
BillClinton	and when I try to install it from command line	01:25
szal	Owner: unless you have a user without a home dir, but that's a highly unlikely configuration for a general-purpose user	01:25
sputnick	or "echo $USER" Owner	01:25
BillClinton	I get scim has exited abnorally.	01:26
BillClinton	abnormally"	01:26
BillClinton	halp please	01:26
szal	eagleserver: if he can't, he can still use a live CD to look at the home dir or partition ;)	01:26
sputnick	RenatoSilva: that's the same for everyone I think	01:26
eagleserver	BillClinton, is it a .deb or are you compiling from source?	01:26
BillClinton	.deb, eagleserver	01:26
Owner	so in other words I'm up the creak without a paddle, aka in trouble	01:27
sadi	sputnick for command 3, amixer set 'Front',0 90%,90% unmute amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Front',0	01:27
sputnick	RenatoSilva: nope, on debian that's not the same, sorry	01:27
eagleserver	BillClinton, if you are using the correct tags, try redownloading the file.	01:27
RenatoSilva	sputnick: well but root is often an exception to things you know....	01:27
szal	Owner: why so?	01:27
RenatoSilva	sputnick: aaaaaaa!!!	01:27
BillClinton	eagleserver, should I purge the program first?	01:27
Owner	I don't have anyother accounts to login to	01:27
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sputnick	RenatoSilva: http://pastie.org/2229334	01:27
BillClinton	Before going for a fresh install I mean.	01:27
szal	Owner: as I said, use a live medium to identify the user's home folder, then you have the name	01:28
sputnick	that's debian one	01:28
Owner	what would a live medium be for example	01:28
szal	Owner: any live CD you can come up with	01:28
Owner	so another xubuntu cd	01:28
sputnick	"[03:23] <HackerII> i like what you said at the bottom sputnick rok on man." whar are you talking about ?	01:28
szal	Owner: e.g.	01:28
szal	Owner: but why 'another'?	01:28
sputnick	sadi: do you have tested one more time sound system ?	01:28
Owner	I don't know where my original one is	01:29
RenatoSilva	sputnick: that's skel or root's?	01:29
sputnick	root	01:29
szal	Owner: no loss; burn another one ^^	01:29
RenatoSilva	sputnick: yours?	01:29
sadi	yap sputnick but still don't work	01:29
sputnick	from debian	01:29
Yukinoroh	hello	01:29
sadi	no sound at ma speaker	01:29
Owner	true, and yay for freeness known as linux	01:29
sputnick	RenatoSilva: default debian one	01:29
RenatoSilva	sputnick: can you $diff -U 0 /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc please?	01:30
RenatoSilva	sputnick: you're on Debian?	01:30
Yukinoroh	how do I force an application to run in 32bit mode? is there a command for that? I have one and it just won't run, it ends in a segmentation fault	01:30
sputnick	sadi: search google about "lspci \| grep -i aud" output	01:31
tertl3	what app?	01:31
sputnick	http://pastie.org/2229344 RenatoSilva	01:31
Yukinoroh	tertl3: mugen	01:32
RenatoSilva	sputnick: man that's a big diff hehe	01:32
mehmet	Hello.	01:32
Yukinoroh	it's the linux vesion but it will just segfault in ubuntu 64bit	01:32
mehmet	Anybody using ruby 1.9.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 without RVM ?	01:32
sputnick	kierge: maybe http://download.cnet.com/Photo-Uploader-for-Facebook/3000-13455_4-10971765.html is a clue	01:32
RenatoSilva	sputnick: you're on Debian? because I want just the Ubuntu version	01:32
sputnick	RenatoSilva: yes, this is not the same	01:32
Yukinoroh	How do I force a program to run in 32bit compatibility mode?	01:33
Owner	alright booted into the xubuntu 11.04 disc, now what do I do	01:33
sputnick	RenatoSilva: I think that's the same while ubuntu is a debian tweak	01:33
tertl3	Yukinoroh, it should be automatic	01:33
RenatoSilva	sputnick: yes for debian, you're using debian?	01:33
Yukinoroh	tertl3: it's obviously not for this application	01:33
Yukinoroh	and I have no other clue why it'd segfautl	01:34
sputnick	RenatoSilva: I use archlinux on my desktop, debian for my servers (ovh and backup one) and ubuntu in a VM for developpement	01:34
RenatoSilva	sputnick: so in ubuntu they're different but not in debian?	01:34
Owner	szal, after loading the disc what do I do afterwords	01:34
mehmet	Hello.	01:34
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centHOGG	h	01:34
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sputnick	RenatoSilva: do you mean differences ?	01:34
petedunhamm	Anybody using ruby 1.9.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 without RVM ?	01:35
RenatoSilva	sputnick: yes	01:35
szal	Owner: find out what partition contains your /home/ folder, mount that & look at it	01:36
szal	Owner: if in doubt, just mount all partitions, doesn't hurt ;)	01:37
min\|dvir\|us	Any way to do something on USB disconnect?	01:38
Owner	wait so I choose to boot from first hard disk correct	01:39
szal	Owner: if you have only 1 partition, you will find a /home/ directory there containing the users' personal directories; if you have a separate partition for /home/, you will see the users' directories directly there	01:39
szal	Owner: no, you boot from the CD	01:39
Owner	I put the disk in and have the following options: Install xubuntu, check disc for defects,test memory, boot from first hard disk, and rescue a broken system	01:39
szal	Owner: is that a live CD or an alternate CD?	01:40
Owner	it's the copy I burned to originally install xubuntu	01:40
sputnick	min\|dvir\|us: in a terminal : while grep &>/dev/null /mount_point; do sleep 2; done; echo "DO SOMETHING, usb is disconnected"	01:41
sputnick	sorry, incomplete :	01:41
HackerII	nvm sputnick i was thinking something else	01:41
sputnick	while grep &>/dev/null /mount_point /etc/mtab; do sleep 2; done; echo "DO SOMETHING, usb is disconnected"	01:41
szal	Owner: wait a sec, I'll boot a live CD	01:41
Owner	okay, it's 11.04 xubuntu	01:42
szal	Owner: it's an alternate CD, get a live CD	01:42
min\|dvir\|us	sputnick: That's a great way to DoS a system.	01:42
min\|dvir\|us	I'm thinking more like udev-type shiznit.	01:42
sputnick	min\|dvir\|us: no	01:42
RenatoSilva	can I safely do a sudo cp /etc/skel/.bashrc /root/.bashrc in Natty (11.04). Are they the same file in Natty????	01:42
reddelicious49	Does anybody know if upgrading an Ubuntu OS on a dual boot computer requires any special procedure?	01:42
sputnick	min\|dvir\|us: I agree : that's quick and dirty. Now if you know udev, goo looking "man -k udev"*	01:43
sputnick	go	01:43
dli	reddelicious49, how do you 'upgrade'? but unless you want to do something fancy, no, ubuntu can handle dual boot auto	01:43
rww	!upgrade reddelicious49	01:43
rww	!upgrade \| reddelicious49	01:44
ubottu	reddelicious49: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade	01:44
rww	reddelicious49: those instructions should work fine, nothing special to do	01:44
fatkittyasfaafgg	how do i use this program to join a different Server? I cant find a server list or anything of the sort,	01:44
reddelicious49	ok. Thank you all	01:44
rww	fatkittyasfaafgg: /connect address.of.server, probably	01:44
fatkittyasfaafgg	i use xchat gnome	01:44
fatkittyasfaafgg	or something	01:44
fatkittyasfaafgg	i'll try that. thank you :)	01:45
Owner	okay where do I get a live cd	01:45
Derpadong	is it a good idea to runs windows along side ubuntu?	01:45
szal	!download \| Owner	01:45
ubottu	Owner: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!	01:45
infobit	Owner, read all the instructions on get Ubuntu page	01:46
szal	Owner: you need one that says 'desktop' in the filename	01:46
Owner	mkay thank you very much	01:46
KM0201	don't use wubi!	01:46
fatkittyasfaafgg	.connect	01:46
fatkittyasfaafgg	no luck	01:47
Owner	wow got to get this all fixed by tomorrow, GREAT	01:47
fatkittyasfaafgg	nothing appears to be happening.	01:47
Derpadong	im not going to use wubi. im going to do it via live cd.	01:47
infobit	fatkittyasfaafgg, use xchat 2.8.8 there in the startup of xchat you get network list	01:47
rww	fatkittyasfaafgg: .connect isn't /connect	01:47
fatkittyasfaafgg	i tried it with /connect	01:47
fatkittyasfaafgg	i figured maybe command was wrong after trying several times	01:48
fatkittyasfaafgg	so i figured . or , might work.	01:48
Ms_Darkangyl	hi all	01:48
infobit	Ms_Darkangyl, hi whats up	01:48
szal	Owner: gotta grab some sleep, be back around 0900 UTC, just in the unlikely case you won't find other assistance here	01:49
Ms_Darkangyl	not much	01:49
sputnick	min\|dvir\|us https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=119111	01:50
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RenatoSilva	is this the only diff between /etc/skel's and /root's .bashrc? http://pastie.org/2229416	01:53
szal	RenatoSilva: the stuff in /etc/skel/ is templates	01:54
reddelicious49	I'm still running 9.04. Is there a reason I can't upgrade through the update manager?	01:55
[THC]AcidRain	im running 9.04 as well	01:56
rww	!eol \| reddelicious49	01:56
ubottu	reddelicious49: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	01:56
[THC]AcidRain	you cant update because we are unsupported	01:56
rww	(second link)	01:56
[THC]AcidRain	we have been left behind	01:56
[THC]AcidRain	forgotten as children to fail in our todays society	01:56
rww	[THC]AcidRain: 1) go read the documentation I had ubottu link, 2) stop being melodramatic :P	01:56
Owner	alright so I should choose to boot frmo cd	01:57
[THC]AcidRain	lol :)	01:57
szal	Owner: right	01:57
RenatoSilva	szal: so?	01:58
pappa_bear	szal, i figured it out. it was exactly where you said. i just had to edit the starting resolution. thanks for your help	01:58
groll	why does ubuntu stops loading when i click restart ? i get the screen with dots, and it just stops there. have to manually shut down, and restart. Also, it seems to be creating some sort of partition or idk, when i'm asked which OS i'm going to run	01:58
ender	Hi there.	01:58
groll	End there.	01:59
ender	I am a total noob and need some help. =]	01:59
szal	groll: press Esc when shutting down, so you see the messages	01:59
[THC]AcidRain	lol	01:59
[THC]AcidRain	sup ender	01:59
[THC]AcidRain	i shall help you. you are a worthy noob	02:00
groll	no i mean, i have to hold the power button to force shut down, and then I can restart it well. But an automatic shut down from gnome desktop will make it stop loading	02:00
ender	I am attempting to add a graphics card to my ubuntu system. I am currently running 11.04 build with an AMD IG chip and am upgrading to an Nvidia GT 520	02:00
KM0201	ender: well, ask your question	02:00
ender	Ok	02:00
[THC]AcidRain	where is the issue in this?	02:00
KM0201	ender, ... slightly off topic, do you post on GT?	02:00
[THC]AcidRain	i have an nvidia card	02:00
ender	So I put in the card, and hope.... maybe that ubuntu will detect it	02:00
[THC]AcidRain	KM0201: actually his question relates to ubuntu	02:01
KM0201	ender: it should detect it just fine	02:01
groll	shouldn't he get the 10.04 if he's new with ubuntu ?	02:01
groll	the LST	02:01
KM0201	[THC]AcidRain: i know that... i was asking hi a question not related to ubuntu	02:01
KM0201	lol	02:01
Derpadong	are you doing this while its loading up?	02:01
[THC]AcidRain	lol	02:01
ender	I start up my system and it gets to the ubuntu logo	02:01
ender	but	02:01
ender	then i get an error	02:01
[THC]AcidRain	ender: write a suspence movie lol	02:02
rww	!behelpful	02:02
ubottu	As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.	02:02
ender	"skipping profile in /etc/apparmor.d/disable: usr.bin.firefox	02:02
ender	"	02:02
[THC]AcidRain	i dont think that has anything to do with the new gfx card...	02:02
KM0201	ender: that won't keep the machine from booting	02:02
ender	sorry i was manually typing it in	02:02
RenatoSilva	what's /etc/bash.bashrc?	02:02
rww	ender: That's not an error, it's an informational message about something that's set by default.	02:02
rww	RenatoSilva: the systemwide bash configuration file	02:02
ender	well how do i get past this screen to the splash?	02:03
ender	it seems to be stuck lol	02:03
ender	<---noob	02:03
Owner	in the xubuntu live cd what does rescue a broken system do?	02:03
[THC]AcidRain	hmmm	02:03
ctmjr	ender, it hangs after that message?	02:04
[THC]AcidRain	restore	02:04
ender	it doesnt hant, i can still do commands	02:04
ender	but it also doesnt proceed to the splash	02:04
ender	i never had this issue until i inputting my new card today	02:04
ender	hault*	02:04
ctmjr	ender, so it just sends you to a terminal prompt?	02:05
ender	yes	02:05
ender	just a blank flashing _	02:05
Owner	hey Im running the live cd for xubuntu, and was woandering what to type into the boot options to be able to see the names of all users on the partition	02:05
[THC]AcidRain	ender: you didnt see a message about detecting new software?	02:05
[THC]AcidRain	i mean hardware	02:05
RenatoSilva	rww: doesn't serve as replacement for lost /root/.bashrc, right?	02:06
c00p	Anyone got a good howto for ubuntu server and a Windows 2008 domain? I can't get a 11.04 box to join a domain ...	02:06
ender	a lot of content went by fast, i dont think i did	02:06
c00p	*ubuntu server running samba	02:06
ender	i tried booting into safe mode	02:06
ender	and installing the drivers	02:06
ender	which worked	02:06
ender	but	02:06
FloodBot1	ender: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:06
ender	i restarted and go tthe same issue	02:06
c00p	only want to do file sharing	02:06
* rww kicks FloodBot1		02:06
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c00p	ads is failing and rpc results in 'Could not initialise lsa pipe'	02:07
szal	Owner: nothing special, just start the live system (in your case likely: "Start Xubuntu"), wait till the desktop is there, then use file browser to look through the hard drive partitions to find either /home/ or the user dir(s) (in the former case the user dir(s) will be in /home/)	02:07
ender	voice please	02:07
rww	ender: please don't overuse your return key, you're making our bots mad.	02:07
[THC]AcidRain	lol. floodbot1 gave ender owner privaledges	02:07
[THC]AcidRain	hax	02:07
ender	lol	02:07
rww	[THC]AcidRain: No, FloodBot kickbanned ender.	02:07
ender	=/	02:07
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RenatoSilva	is /etc/bash.bashrc intended asreplacement for a lost /root/.bashrc? see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1185571	02:08
ender	like i said i got into safemode and was able to install the nvidia drivers, but when i installed it sent me to the same old prompt and error(?)	02:08
RenatoSilva	s/asre/as re	02:08
ender	is there a command to run the splash?	02:08
ctmjr	ender, startx	02:09
ctmjr	see what error you get	02:09
ender	no sudo required?	02:09
ctmjr	no	02:09
rww	do not use sudo with startx.	02:09
ender	nothing happened rww	02:09
rww	RenatoSilva: just use /etc/skel/.bashrc. They're not different in any way that matters.	02:09
Derpadong	he might need root access to do startx	02:10
rww	Derpadong: startx does not require root access. Running sudo startx sometimes has the fun side-effect of breaking the permissions on the dotfiles in ~/	02:10
RenatoSilva	rww: ok checcking in natty, it seems root just removes an alert alias and comments some /etc/bash_completion related 'if'	02:10
Derpadong	just saying	02:11
ctmjr	ender, do you have a terminal prompt or just a little flashing line	02:11
ender	flashing line	02:11
RenatoSilva	rww: I'm about to replace with one from another buddy which is just like I described. Thanks!	02:11
ctmjr	rww, yes it does	02:11
rww	ctmjr: What?	02:11
Derpadong	sudo startx is a way to start x-org files.	02:12
ctmjr	rww, your comment about running sudo startx	02:12
rww	"sudo startx" is liable to break things. I recommend we move on before I start kicking people for recommending commands that break things.	02:13
Derpadong	its the same for arch, xubuntu, ubuntu, etc	02:13
ender	ok well i am still stuck	02:13
RenatoSilva	what are default permissions of /root/.bashrc? because afaik mv overwrites permissions too and I just mv'd over that file. I've got a new file now want to adjust permissions	02:13
ender	clearly my new card is affecting my system, it will not allow me to go to the splash screen from start up	02:13
rww	RenatoSilva: It doesn't really matter. If you want a suggestion anyway, owner root, group root, permissions 600	02:14
RenatoSilva	rww: ok thanks	02:14
ctmjr	ender, that little flashing line is not a terminal prompt your system is hanging you need to boot into rescue mode and fix it	02:15
Derpadong	rww: when did sudo startx start breaking stuff?	02:15
ender	how do i do that ctmjr?	02:15
anadon	hey, how do I manually add a windows entry and how do I find what that entry needs to be?	02:16
ministerdude	Configure gtkpod anyone?	02:16
Owner	mkay thank you sz__	02:16
Owner	er szal	02:16
quittix3	who was helping me just a little bit ago?	02:17
rww	quittix3: KM0201	02:17
KM0201	quittix3: ?	02:18
quittix3	KM0201: Sorry to bother again, but what do I have to inter into the terminal to get that text file up to edit the sources?	02:18
KM0201	quittix3: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list	02:19
Derpadong	i was about to say that KM0201 lol	02:19
malv	this new openssh update for 10.04 broke my system	02:20
malv	something to do with debconf and frontend	02:20
malv	frontend segfaults making it impossible to finish the openssh upgrade	02:20
quittix3	By intering some code into my terminal, it totally destroyed my ubuntu on my hard drive, and it deleted all my stuff in home. All that was there was a file named mythtv. I tried recovering my files but testdisk says they are corrupt	02:23
ray__	Hey fellas, I just installed Ubuntu 11 narwal, and when I try to use streamtuner, it disappears, it closes, what is the problem? thanks	02:23
anadon	hey, how do I manually add a windows entry and how do I find what that entry needs to be?	02:24
RenatoSilva	my root folder permission is 655, is that right?	02:25
celthunder	RenatoSilva: / should be 751 i think	02:26
quittix3	KM0201: I edited that file and did what I did last time, I tried installing testdisk and it said could not locate	02:27
KM0201	quittix3: then you didn't edit it properly	02:27
KM0201	did you type sudo apt-get update	02:28
KM0201	to update your source list	02:28
ctmjr	ender sorry for the delay but i need to go state your problem again and maybe someone else can help you. again am sorry	02:28
quittix3	ah yes, i forgot :P	02:28
KM0201	if you don't reload yoru source list, it won't find it	02:28
KM0201	:)	02:28
RenatoSilva	celthunder: it's 755 actually	02:28
dli	RenaKunisaki, my / is 755	02:28
celthunder	RenatoSilva: dli kk i didn't look was just going off memory	02:29
celthunder	755 sounds more right than 655	02:29
dli	RenatoSilva, I wonder what happens you chmod / to 655	02:30
celthunder	dli: probably not much unless you add -R	02:31
rww	probably bad things	02:31
rww	let's save the speculation for a non-support channel :P	02:31
dli	celthunder, no, with -x for /, you can not open / folder, so, can not open any folder at all, not even chmod to chmod	02:31
celthunder	dli: supposedly but that goes like saying rm -rf / in theory rm should be deleted pretty fast ...	02:32
RenatoSilva	dli: I wonder why 755, why allow others to read/execute from root, /root should be totally, recursively, xx0 I think	02:33
quittix3	KM0201: I edited the text file right, updated the thing in terminal, and it still wotn let me install testdisk. could I be missing something?	02:33
dli	celthunder, better not to mention such thing in a support channel. still it's different, since linux uses copy-on-write, so rm itself is no issue	02:33
KM0201	quittix3: obviously you are... gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin the contents of that file.	02:33
KM0201	!pastebin \| quittix3	02:33
ubottu	quittix3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	02:33
dli	RenaKunisaki, to open a folder, you need 'x' permission	02:34
RenaKunisaki	dammit RenatoSilv	02:34
RenaKunisaki	a	02:34
dli	RenaKunisaki, and all user must be able to open the folder /	02:34
RenaKunisaki	people keep highlighting me instead of you XP	02:34
celthunder	dli: yeah but that does'nt stop it from getting rid of stuff you need to remove stuff ( rm was just an example didn't think it through)	02:34
rww	Alrighty, I think we're done discussing "how do I break my Ubuntu" now, thanks.	02:34
celthunder	rww: it's easy to break...gotta break to fix :)	02:35
quittix3	http://paste.ubuntu.com/646169/ alot of the text seems to be missing from like last time	02:35
Centallith	ubuntu is actually really fragile. I've broken mine 4 times for different reasons. Kubuntu is surprisingly stable though.	02:35
RenatoSilva	in short, what should be the permissions of /root, including recursively? I wonder if my Ubuntu got messed after so many upgrades and no fresh install since years	02:36
celthunder	/root should be 710 i think	02:37
celthunder	user all execute group nothing for all others	02:37
rww	700 or 710 is fine. Again, it doesn't matter much.	02:37
rww	since you're not using the root user, since #ubuntu doesn't support that configuration, right... :\	02:38
quittix3	When I try to enter: sudo apt-get update, It gives me this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? (at the end of a bunch of stuff)	02:39
celthunder	quittix3: do you have a lock file left over or another package manager running?	02:39
rww	quittix3: You have another package manager running (e.g. synaptic, update-manager, aptitude, apt-get). Close it.	02:39
dli	quittix3, do you have dpkg running? ps aux\|grep 'apt\|dpkg'	02:39
RenatoSilva	for example this is my odd root http://pastie.org/2229563	02:40
celthunder	I e-er ort..."	02:40
celthunder	er oops	02:40
rww	RenatoSilva: As I attempted to hint above, #ubuntu does not support unlocked root accounts or offer help with them. It appears you have one. Have fun with that.	02:40
RenatoSilva	rww: I have no idea what is unlocked root accounts, I'm those idiots you know. Besides, I've never touched /root's permissions, so if something is wrong with them, it's because of bug[s] in upgrade processes	02:42
celthunder	RenatoSilva: so what's wrong with it far as i saw at a quick glance you gave a few extra permissions but overall it should still work	02:42
quittix3	when I enter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu it still wont install it, even though I did everything I was suposed to...	02:42
RenatoSilva	celthunder: just worried about the 755 on root itself, and ANY permission at all for 'other' in some stuff	02:42
quittix3	this is so random.. it worked a litytle bit ago	02:42
celthunder	quittix3: apt-get install ubuntu???? apt-get won't work unless you already have ubuntu (or debian/smoe other distro that uses apt-get but not that point)	02:43
RenatoSilva	celthunder: should I be fine if I at least chmod /root o-rwx?	02:43
celthunder	RenatoSilva: so take off the "other" permissions	02:44
RenatoSilva	celthunder: recursively or just on /root as I said?	02:44
celthunder	RenatoSilva: yeah..	02:44
celthunder	doesn't matter much	02:44
rww	RenatoSilva: It doesn't matter, given that if /root can't be accessed by other, then nothing inside of /root can.	02:44
poseidon	Any suggestions for a good mp3 play which isn't made by apple?	02:44
RenatoSilva	celthunder: hmmmm.... I suspect it does matter friend...	02:45
celthunder	RenatoSilva: how? if other can't open the folder in the first place (changing /root to no permissions to other) they really can't do much in it either...unless you do something stupid like use userdir from apache and turn it on for root too...but that's another issue	02:45
RenatoSilva	rww, celthunder: that's why I want to touch only /root, being less intrusive, since everything under it will also be inaccessible as rww said	02:45
RenatoSilva	poseidon: player?	02:46
kierge	poseidon, tomahawk player uses playlists similar to genius playlists the are automatic playlists based on what you define. it works best on KDE for which it was intended.	02:46
poseidon	sorry, hardware	02:46
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celthunder	poseidon: mpd is perfect...and any android phone makes for a great hardware player	02:47
poseidon	audio player which plays on it's on. For driving/running	02:47
poseidon	celthunder: I use mpd :)	02:47
quittix3	celthunder: lol. I ment to say testdisk, not ubuntu	02:47
RenatoSilva	celthunder: didn't get anything after userdir. So I'm just ok with chmod o-rwx only in /root, right?	02:47
poseidon	Yea, I'll have to look into an new phone	02:47
celthunder	poseidon: ok that aside the Sansa Fuse i've heard good things about	02:47
celthunder	RenatoSilva: sure	02:48
celthunder	quittix3: what's the error?	02:48
quittix3	celthunder: me... thats what, I was missspelling it\	02:48
celthunder	lol well least you got it working now	02:49
Derpadong	audio players you say?	02:49
celthunder	poseidon: how much space you need? sdcard? battery life?	02:49
RenatoSilva	celthunder: ok thanks friend. Would that make my root a non-"unlocked root accounts", if you ever know what it means?	02:49
ssfdre38	how can i comment out Unity from login?	02:49
RenatoSilva	ssfdre38: comment out?	02:49
celthunder	RenatoSilva: he means don't use root for x...	02:49
celthunder	RenatoSilva: and no ...it doesn't	02:49
ssfdre38	RenatoSilva: i want to get Unity off my system	02:50
celthunder	ssfdre38: what display manager?	02:50
celthunder	comment it out from the display manager or delete it?	02:50
RenatoSilva	ssfdre38: I wanted it too, it's just selecting classic session or something (after you choose/type an user)	02:50
ssfdre38	i know but i want to remove it off the system where i dont even see it on the login	02:51
RenatoSilva	ssfdre38: it seems you can't uninstall Unity, but as I said you can stop using it	02:51
kierge	ssfdre38, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop then you can remove ubunutu-desktop if you wanted. just switch your DM at login	02:51
celthunder	ssfdre38: delete it from gnomes scripts there should be a Unity.Desktop file that you can delete somewhere...searching one sec	02:51
celthunder	er gdm scripts not gnomes whatever ...if you're~ using it	02:52
RenatoSilva	what's an unlocked root account?	02:52
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RenatoSilva	celthunder: for x?	02:52
celthunder	RenatoSilva: one that has a password (any normal person has one...)	02:52
celthunder	the dumbest thing to do with root is run X from it (or the obvious stupid stuff)	02:52
rww	!classic	02:52
ubottu	The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".	02:52
RenatoSilva	celthunder: how did he deduce mine was unlocked? how can he know without looking at my /etc/passwd?	02:53
celthunder	RenatoSilva: he doesn't...he was guessing because you're using roots home folder...	02:53
ministerdude	Why does ubuntu suck? Because it's harder then hell to get anything to work right on it	02:53
kierge	RenatoSilva, your paranoia is getting the best of you	02:53
quittix3	is it a bad idea to use testdisk on an ubuntu live cd to copy my files from a deleted partition on a hard drive to my phones memory chip?	02:54
RenatoSilva	celthunder: s/passwd/shadow	02:54
celthunder	ministerdude: it sucks because it has shoddy defaults and gives no choices .	02:54
RenatoSilva	celthunder: he thought I was using the desktop as root? ah ok, he failed	02:54
celthunder	RenatoSilva: same answer	02:54
ministerdude	Thank you for agreeing. I'm about to toss this damn thing out the window	02:54
rww	Have fun! Let #ubuntu-offtopic know how well it bounces.	02:55
celthunder	ministerdude: lol video it	02:55
Zimsky	How do I use gnu screen?	02:55
celthunder	Zimsky: to do what?	02:55
RenatoSilva	kierge: sorry?	02:55
ministerdude	I'm still trying to sync my iphone with this damn thing so I can transfer ALL my music. not just part of it	02:56
Zimsky	I have a process with a console running on my server and I am connected to it via SSH, I need to be able to view that console from my SSH client	02:56
kierge	ministerdude, ubuntu doesn't suck. all my hardware "works with it" it does everything i can expect it to do.	02:56
celthunder	Zimsky: screen with no arguements works to open a screen session screen <progname> runs program in a screen session that is then opened...screen -r <session resumes> screen -x connect to an already connected display	02:56
RenatoSilva	kierge: it wasn't a paranoia dude, actually a bit of yours heh	02:56
ministerdude	My hardware (iphone) don't work with it	02:56
Jordan_U	Zimsky: The best solution is to have started whatever process you need to watch in a screen session. Are you familiar with screen?	02:57
rypervenche	ministerdude: Use Windows or iTunes or a VM with Windows.	02:57
kierge	ministerdude, apple is to blame not ubuntu.	02:57
Zimsky	Jordan_U: no	02:57
RenatoSilva	kierge: I wasn't worried, just curious how could he know whether I have a password set for root or not, like is he some kind of magician? :P	02:57
celthunder	ministerdude: iphone's suck...please do the world a favor and drop it out the window and then run it over a few times	02:57
Jordan_U	!screen \| Zimsky	02:57
ubottu	Zimsky: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen	02:57
celthunder	RenatoSilva: he DIDNT	02:57
ministerdude	Android sucks. That I'll never use again	02:57
quittix3	I dont really think of ubuntu as "difficult".. I just think of it as annoying because If I want to do one simple thing on ubuntu it takes like a half hour when I could be using windows and it would take me just minutes..	02:57
RenatoSilva	celthunder: I KNOW! you told me!	02:57
CaptWho	anyone out there have a link for eeebuntu?	02:57
rww	This is obviously a problem with Ubuntu and not with iPhones. It's inconceivable that they could deliberately be set up by Apple to stop people from being able to sync from them with non-iTunes programs.	02:57
celthunder	RenatoSilva: lol :)	02:57
RenatoSilva	celthunder: just answering (23:53:32) kierge: RenatoSilva, your paranoia is getting the best of you	02:58
rypervenche	quittix3: Then don't use Ubuntu. Problem solved.	02:58
quittix3	thats the plan	02:58
RenatoSilva	quittix3: I use both	02:58
RenatoSilva	quittix3: I'm about 1h or more trying to recover my .bashrc of root	02:59
kierge	rww, wow, you got away with that explaination. amazing :)	02:59
celthunder	RenatoSilva: ROFL? just take one from /etc/skel like the rest of the world	02:59
quittix3	ive already broken ubuntu so many times im scared to touch everything.. lol im just trying to rescue everything off my hard drive before ubuntu makes it implode	02:59
celthunder	RenatoSilva: or make a new one...	03:00
RenatoSilva	quittix3: now I just remembered of my beloved PS1 I just lost with my bashrc replacement. I closed the last terminal with it. Now I need more two hows or so on remembering how that thing of colors work :D	03:01
RenatoSilva	celthunder: I mostly took the skel version, just that 1. I saw a little diffs then used them rather 2. my beloved PS1 is gone and I'm on the way to recall how it was!	03:02
quittix3	oh nooo nautilus has closed unexpectedly!	03:02
quittix3	whats that? o_o	03:02
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Zimsky	I'm still having trouble with connecting	03:03
celthunder	quittix3: a file browser...among other things	03:04
seangrove	Hey all, I have a setup with lxc running on ubuntu, and I'm trying to mount a loop device in the container via `mknod -m660 /dev/loop0 b 7 0', but I'm getting an error: mknod: `/dev/loop0': Operation not permitted	03:04
Zimsky	The console i'm trying to connect to is bukkit	03:04
seangrove	(this is as root)	03:04
celthunder	Zimsky: did you start it in a screen session	03:04
seangrove	I thought it was perhaps a permissions issue, but I think it's actually a kernel problem	03:04
seangrove	I don't have modprobe in the container though, so I'm wondering how I can get the container to be able to mount loop devices	03:05
seangrove	I know this is probably a bit technical - any suggestions?	03:05
celthunder	seangrove: worked for me...	03:06
seangrove	What do you mean?	03:06
Zimsky	eh, nvm	03:07
celthunder	seangrove: i just tried making a loop device like that works fine...note if it is a kernel issue i'm not likely using the same one as ubuntu does	03:07
quittix3	aghh	03:07
KM0201	quittix3: whats wroong now?	03:08
quittix3	I copyed my home folder to my downloads folder on accident and now it wont let me delete it	03:08
Reikoku	sudo rm -rf foldername	03:08
KM0201	yup.	03:08
Reikoku	within your downloads folder	03:08
KM0201	just pay attention you don't remove /home	03:08
quittix3	umm.. im not sure exactly how to get there	03:08
Reikoku	cd ~/Downloads	03:08
celthunder	uhm shouldn't it not let you move /home to /home/use/downloads	03:09
KM0201	celthunder: i was thinking the same thing	03:09
quittix3	i copyed, not move	03:09
KM0201	that should rip a hole in the space time continuum	03:09
Reikoku	You can't move it there, he probably hard linked it	03:09
KM0201	quittix3: even copy, i don't think it should let you do that	03:09
quittix3	i used testdisk to copy an older home folder on my hard drive	03:09
celthunder	same thing you can't copy a folder to a subfolder of itself...you can link it but..	03:09
Reikoku	KM0201: I think it hard links it if you try	03:10
Reikoku	Instead of actually copying it	03:10
KM0201	hmm	03:10
seangrove	celthunder: do you have the loop module loaded?	03:10
Reikoku	Can't confirm as I don't have Nautilus installed	03:10
Reikoku	Haven't used Linux for a while :P	03:10
quittix3	lol i cant delete my home because im using a live cd.	03:10
celthunder	seangrove: of course	03:11
Reikoku	Oh lol	03:11
celthunder	seangrove: kernel 2.6.39	03:11
seangrove	Yeah, there's something happening in lxc here..	03:11
celthunder	seangrove: lxc just makes a chroot no?	03:12
Reikoku	Umm, so I'm going to blaspheme here but, how portable is unity? :P	03:12
celthunder	seangrove: try making one without lxc	03:13
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rww	Reikoku: what do you mean by "portable"?	03:13
celthunder	Reikoku: ? i don't think it's usable on a desktop...doesn't look / from what i tried feel too usable for a portable system either	03:13
seangrove	celthunder: I can do it in the host, but not in the container - it's piggybacking off of the host kernel of course, but I'm getting this: mknod '/dev/loop6' 7:6 060660' failed: Operation not permitted	03:14
celthunder	though if you mean canyou copy your settings from 1 comp to another type of portable ...yeah sure	03:14
quittix3	wow. when you run out of space in ubuntu it gets unstable and freezes up. lovely.	03:14
Reikoku	rww: I mean, how easy is it to port to another distro/unix-based OS?	03:14
celthunder	quittix3: don't fill up / ? and i have systems with like 1 MB of free space that have been running for months	03:14
Reikoku	celthunder: Felt gorgeous on my laptop, but Linux is a bit too power hungry for me to run on there	03:14
rww	Reikoku: shouldn't be too hard, if your destination supports the current version of compiz	03:14
Reikoku	I'm running NetBSD, I do have compiz	03:15
mrdeb	what changes do you think will be in next lts	03:15
Reikoku	Not sure how current it is :P	03:15
wolf9s	Morning!	03:15
celthunder	Reikoku: lol netbsd is usually not SUPER far behind ...comparatively...upstream...yeah usually it's not the most current	03:16
celthunder	wolf9s: evening	03:16
rww	mrdeb: The UDS for 12.04 hasn't happened yet, so there's nothing to base speculation on. #ubuntu-offtopic for baseless speculation.	03:16
wolf9s	^_^	03:16
mrdeb	ok	03:16
wolf9s	I want to study TCP/IP 。 How?	03:17
Centallith	But just to be sure Thunderbird AND chrome are both default packages in 11.10 right? Wanted to make sure that wasn't also speculation.	03:17
celthunder	Centallith: chrome and thunderbird are in the repo's yeah...	03:17
rww	Centallith: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion (but I believe the answer is "yes thunderbird, no chromium"	03:17
celthunder	wolf9s: what about it?	03:17
Reikoku	celthunder: I think it's one of the 0.8.4 compiz builds	03:18
audreyr	hi, can someone recommend a good rss reader for ubuntu?	03:18
celthunder	wolf9s: tcp/ip the entire network stack? routing? what about it tcp/ip in itself is kind of useless without the rest around it	03:18
rww	audreyr: liferea on GNOME, aKregator on KDE, Google Reader on the web	03:19
pokoko222	how do i get started with opengl in ubuntu?	03:19
Reikoku	I like Simple RSS	03:19
wolf9s	I don't know how to start, or where to start.	03:19
Kazilla	wolf9s: each computer is given a number. there, you've learnt it	03:19
rww	audreyr: oh, newsbeuter on command-line	03:20
celthunder	wolf9s: pick up a networking book ...	03:20
Reikoku	Kazilla: That doesn't really explain TCP/IP :P	03:20
celthunder	Kazilla: rofl	03:20
celthunder	Kazilla: that also describes udp and a bunch of other stuff	03:20
Reikoku	wolf9s: http://www.w3schools.com/tcpip/default.asp	03:20
wolf9s	Kazilla: What number?	03:20
jbermudes	Has anyone ever had their .bashrc file interpret a colon in a path declaration as a literal colon instead of a delimiter? I'm not using an escape character but it's still doing it :(	03:21
Reikoku	pokoko222: What are you trying to do with OpenGL?	03:21
audreyr	rww, Reikoku: thanks for the tips. trying liferea now :)	03:21
celthunder	audreyr: newsbeuter i've heard good things about snownews i've used and isn't terrible	03:22
pokoko222	Reikoku i will work through a book on graphics and it uses it	03:22
h00k	wolf9s: studying TCP/IP isn't an Ubuntu related question, perhaps try a networking channel	03:22
h00k	!alist \| wolf9s	03:22
h00k	!alis \| wolf9s	03:22
ubottu	wolf9s: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*	03:22
Reikoku	pokoko222: You're trying to program for opengl?	03:22
Reikoku	or you're trying to make it run? :P	03:22
wolf9s	3Q everyone.	03:22
pokoko222	Reikoku i want to simply use opengl for graphics apps :)	03:23
audreyr	celthunder: cool, will try those too. I'm curious about if I'd like a command line rss reader	03:23
pokoko222	to write graphics stuff what else	03:23
Reikoku	pokoko222: If you want to write opengl you'll need some hefty books :P	03:23
Reikoku	If you just want to run stuff it should run natively on either proprietary driver or I believe ati opensource	03:24
pokoko222	Reikoku yeah but what library, what do i install on ubuntu	03:24
pokoko222	i guess then i should go to windows for this	03:24
Reikoku	Whichever proprietary video driver should work	03:24
Reikoku	They install their own implementations of libgl	03:24
Reikoku	You don't need to go to windows	03:24
jamescarr	the application launcher will not slide away	03:25
jamescarr	how can I make it slide away?	03:26
jamescarr	it is frustrating	03:26
kroq-gar78	hey guys. I think my laptop's HDD is dead. Is there any way to check? I'm on an uck-costomized Live Image running off a USB Card reader. can u help please?	03:26
jamescarr	it obstructs my view	03:26
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: do you have libreoffice open?	03:26
jamescarr	no	03:26
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: are you running 11.04 and Unity?	03:27
celthunder	kroq-gar78: e2fsck?	03:27
jamescarr	yes	03:27
jamescarr	kroq-gar78, yes	03:27
kroq-gar78	celthunder: how do I do that?	03:27
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: what programs do you have open? I remember libreoffice and 2 other programs cause that problem	03:27
kroq-gar78	though I can't remember the names of the other 2	03:28
rsyring	Just re-installed nvidia drivers after kernel upgrade, now my second monitor is not detected correctly. Suggestions?	03:28
kroq-gar78	celthunder: ok my hdd doesn't even show up when I do "ls /dev/ \| grep sd"	03:30
kroq-gar78	or in GParted?	03:30
Reikoku	Sounds phooked :(	03:30
jamescarr	damn it	03:30
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: ?	03:30
kroq-gar78	Reikoku: as in dead?	03:30
jamescarr	that app launcher	03:30
jamescarr	annoys the F out of me	03:31
klaxian	i did an update today and somehow my package management is now broken. every apt-get command I do gives me something like "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/share/man/man1/nvidia-xconfig.1.gz is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf"	03:31
jamescarr	it will not go away unless I restart X	03:31
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: ah.... what programs do you have open?	03:31
Reikoku	kroq-gar78: Sounds like it :S	03:31
jamescarr	xchat, intelliJ, terminal and gvim	03:31
klaxian	everything gives me that alternatives error and i can't install or remove anyting	03:31
klaxian	any ideas?	03:31
kroq-gar78	jamescarr: ok, none I have ever encountered... try doing a quick google search: "unity launcher won't hide"	03:31
Jordan_U	kroq-gar78: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?	03:31
klaxian	any way i can repair dpkg and/or apt? apt-get -f doesn't help	03:32
Centallith	klaxian have you checked your software sources in the Ubuntu software center.	03:32
kroq-gar78	Jordan_U: sorry for the dumb question, but how do I pastebin? is there a "!pastebin" message that ubottu recognizes here in IRC?	03:33
kroq-gar78	!pastebin \| kroq-gar78	03:33
ubottu	kroq-gar78, please see my private message	03:33
klaxian	yes. sources are good. i did install nvidia-current from xswat ppa. perhaps that caused the problem?	03:33
klaxian	tho now i can't remove it, can't change anything	03:33
klaxian	i tried installing nvidia-current from ubuntu repo and got the same problem	03:33
klaxian	i tried reinstalling libmesa and got the same error again	03:34
klaxian	i can't do anything with apt or dpkg without that error	03:34
kroq-gar78	Jordan_U: here is the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/646188/	03:34
hylian	anyone know why gnome 3 refuses to let you add programs to your favorites list in 10.04?	03:35
rww	hylian: GNOME 3 isn't in the official repositories for any current version of Ubuntu, and thus is not supported in #ubuntu.	03:36
Jordan_U	kroq-gar78: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -lu"?	03:36
hylian	rww, but i didn't have to install it, it is on ubuntu 10.04 vanilla... they have on the distro something they don't support?	03:37
rww	hylian: GNOME 3 is not on Ubuntu 10.04 vanilla.	03:37
hylian	rww, all you have to do is type gnome-shell --replace. don't have to download a thing.	03:37
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rww	hylian: "gnome-shell" and "GNOME 3" are different things	03:38
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hylian	rww, strange, this is a vanilla install, and when i type the command i geta very "gnome 3" ish looking gui. maybe i am getting somehting mixed up here?	03:39
rww	and in answer to "why doesn't gnome-shell 2.28 let you add programs to your favorites list", I say "I have no idea, but gnome-shell 2.28 is old and from back when gnome-shell was horrible, so don't use it"	03:39
kroq-gar78	Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/646193/	03:39
rww	hylian: GNOME Shell is the default user interface for GNOME 3. The version of gnome-shell in lucid is from GNOME 2.28, when it wasn't default and was also terrible. gnome-shell is also not installed by default in Lucid, though it is in the repositories and thus supported here.	03:39
kroq-gar78	hylian: just for curiosity, run this: dpkg -s gnome-shell \| grep Version	03:39
kroq-gar78	hylian: oh nevermnd	03:40
hylian	kroq-gar78, Version: 2.28.1~git20091125-1ubuntu0.2	03:40
kroq-gar78	hylian: yeah it's the default from lucid	03:41
hylian	kroq-gar78, well thanks for the help. hmm. i just wanted to try out gnome 3, since i am not a huge unity fan.	03:41
Centallith	doesn't sudo apt-get install gnome-session from a recovery console solve all of this or am I missing the point?	03:41
hylian	Centallith, yeah, i cna get back, but I am not trying too. :) i want to see what gnome 3 is like.	03:42
Klevi\|PC	This is something that should be damn simple but i've never managed to figure it out. How can I execute a desktop shortcut on a computer I'm SSHing into?	03:42
Centallith	It's nice, I used it for a while hylian. Now I am on kde and loving it.	03:43
hylian	ok thanks all for letting me pick ur brains! :)	03:43
hylian	Centallith, if i could somehow get kde3, then maybe. i ran to gnome from kde4 because of how prettified it is. if i could somehow remove all the pretty from kde 4, then i would be happy again.	03:44
kroq-gar78	hylian: unity isn't in 10.04, unless you want to upgrade to 11.04 or 10.10 )netbook)	03:44
rww	StarSky_1: FloodBot1 is not sentient.	03:44
hylian	kroq-gar78, yeah, not interested. i like to stay with the lts's. i hate unity, which is why I am trying out gnome 3.	03:44
Centallith	if you are not looking for pretty then Gnome 3 isn't the answer. It is more prettified than KDE 4.	03:45
kroq-gar78	hylian: ah cool	03:45
Neoncamouflage	In terms of function over looks, Gnome 3 better than Gnome 2.x?	03:45
hylian	Centallith, yeah, but i have limited choices here. i am not willing to go lxde, for instance. gnome 2 is here for a finite time only.	03:45
RenatoSilva	thanks all	03:45
kroq-gar78	hylian: there's also xfce4 and kde. I prefer xfce	03:46
Centallith	hylian have you tried Enlightenment 17? it is not as pretty.	03:46
hylian	Centallith, yeah, not my first choice either. to be honest the one i hate the least is currently gnome 3. If i could leave it gnome 2 forever, that would be fine with me.	03:47
rww	wait for Ubuntu 11.10, install GNOME Shell, enable GNOME 3 Fallback	03:47
Centallith	Yeah, as of right now Gnome 3 is a bad option. Super unstable. Wait for oneric.	03:48
rww	at which point it will be slightly less super unstable	03:48
hylian	rww, good idea, but i am gonna wait till 12.04. i like the lts versions the best.	03:48
rww	that works too	03:48
hylian	thanks all for heaing me out.	03:48
* hylian wishes gnome 2 would be picked up by some peeps, and re named so i can use it 4 ever.		03:49
MidnightFox	allo folks	03:50
MidnightFox	i have a question if any one might be up to the task in helping me with it	03:51
rww	best to ask it and see if anyone is :P	03:51
MidnightFox	ok i'm a windows user, go on laugh at me but i'm mainly a gamer and most of my games require windows, how ever it's taht time of year where i need to do a full reinstall of everything to clean out the computer of all it's junk files.	03:52
Centallith	Go on...	03:53
peayness	is there a help channel	03:54
aku_	apakah ada yang bisa membaca tulisanku?	03:54
Centallith	You found it.	03:54
MidnightFox	i have 2 HDD's one is a 1.5TB HDD the other is a empty 250GB HDD. can i take a short cut and change the boot order in the bios so that the 250GB HDD is read first so i can just install Win7 on there w/o having to wipe out the win7 instal thats on the 1.5TH HDD	03:54
rww	!id \| aku_	03:54
ubottu	aku_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia	03:54
mnewton	Can someone help me with security on Ubuntu. How do i make it so a program cant use the internet? Does ubuntu have a firewall preinstalled or do i need to get one?	03:54
rww	!ufw	03:55
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo \| GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE Lucid and Maverick) also exist.	03:55
peayness	is there any utility availiable to give more control over a laptop touchpad	03:55
Centallith	Or download firestarter. Good firewall GUI with an install wizard and everything.	03:55
peayness	running ubuntu	03:56
aku_	bagaimana cara mendapatkan brouser conkueror KDE?	03:56
rww	aku_: English here, please.	03:56
rww	Zimsky: please don't CTCP our bots, btw. It makes them angry. You won't like them when they're angry.	03:57
Guest89868	:bn	03:57
aku_	why to the KDE brouser	03:57
MidnightFox	i only ask cause if i can take this short cut, it would save me hours in moving and burning files to DVD	03:57
rww	MidnightFox: Perhaps you're looking for ##windows?	03:58
MidnightFox	i didn't know that channel was there, forgive me.	03:59
peayness	i need mouse help	04:00
peayness	is there any utility availiable to give more control over a laptop touchpad	04:00
Chiku\|dc	hi I got problem with make install http://www.pastie.org/2229786	04:01
LordDragon	hey all	04:01
LordDragon	i am using ubuntu on my mac. it seems 11.04 has built in HFS filesystem drivers. i can read files and stuff off my mac drive	04:02
LordDragon	however, some stuff i cant access	04:02
LordDragon	certain folders are locked	04:02
LordDragon	how can i access them?	04:02
LordDragon	i think the last time i went through this, i had to change the user permission number on my ubuntu install partition to make it recognize apple's premission number or smoething	04:03
Centallith	sudo nautilus and then change permissions.	04:04
Centallith	Just don't do it to /var	04:04
xangua	!gksu \| Centallith	04:04
ubottu	Centallith: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	04:04
LordDragon	Centallith, what do i change the permissions on? everything except /var in ubuntu ?	04:05
Centallith	On EVERYTHING? Well in that case you would need to make your account root.	04:05
Centallith	You can do so in user account settings.	04:05
starlon	What tool can I use to check my hard drive for errors?	04:06
eagleserver	fsck	04:06
LordDragon	i think last time i rebooted the computer into root, then globally changed the permission level number on my ubuntu partition to match the mac's drive permissions	04:06
LordDragon	but i dont remeber what number that is	04:06
eagleserver	starlon, man fsck in terminal	04:07
starlon	kk	04:07
kalinka	hi, I'm having problem with ld command, although I have put library path to both /etc/ld.so.conf.d/mylib.conf and the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable into .bashrc and run the command sudo ldconfig. ld still cannot find my library	04:07
kalinka	the library name is libcuda.so	04:07
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kalinka	in /usr/lib/nvidia-current	04:07
kalinka	I can see it clearly there	04:08
Jordan_U	starlon: Fsck will check the filesystem, which may be what you want. smartctrl will check the drive (as in check for hardware problems with the drive).	04:08
starlon	Oh yeah that's what I want to do; check the hardware for problems. Thanks.	04:08
starlon	Do I need to run that from the live cd?	04:09
Jordan_U	starlon: No. And if you prefer a GUI you can use "Disk Utility", which comes with Ubuntu.	04:09
starlon	kk thanks :)	04:09
Jordan_U	starlon: You're welcome :)	04:09
LordDragon	how can i change the userID on an account from a root shell? whats the command	04:10
* RenatoSilva has recovered his PS1, pretty much like it was originally. It was a damm 01;38;05;208m color code!		04:13
Neoncamouflage	Probably a stupid question, but why do some bash scripts have "done" at the end and others do not? What does this do?	04:14
rww	Neoncamouflage: "done" is the closing statement of a bash "do" loop.	04:14
plustax	having an issue. I click skype to open it and use it. The icon with an x in it goes to my taskbar and Im not able to use the program or launch its interface	04:15
rww	(used with for, while, until, etc.)	04:15
Neoncamouflage	See, stupid question. :P Thanks rww.	04:15
RenatoSilva	Neoncamouflage: not sure but done is end of while statement, for example	04:15
plustax	I tried uninstalling skype and reinstalling to no avail	04:15
Neoncamouflage	I have one of the scripts up looking at it and there is a do loop in it, so that makes sense.	04:16
RenatoSilva	Neoncamouflage: you sounded like a single done alone at the end of file out of nothing :P	04:16
Neoncamouflage	RenatoSilva: That's what I thought they were, I had no idea why people were putting them there. Not very far into bash scripting just yet myself.	04:17
rww	Neoncamouflage: fyi, #bash is probably more useful for bash questions	04:17
Neoncamouflage	I didn't know that channel existed, will join now. Thanks. :)	04:18
plustax	anyone help me?	04:18
goma	Hello. I'm configuring ufw with gufw and I want to Deny everything Outgoing except HTTP and SSL - how do i do this?	04:18
nit-wit	plustax, never used skype personally but I assume you can make a launcher	04:19
nit-wit	plustax, if it is installed corectly.	04:19
plustax	it is indeed.	04:19
plustax	I just cant run it	04:19
nit-wit	plustax, do you know how to make a launcher	04:20
plustax	yeah I made one	04:20
plustax	still doesnt work	04:20
plustax	even opening it from terminal doesnt work	04:20
plustax	It puts the skype icon in my taskbar but its gray and has an x through it.	04:20
nit-wit	plustax, is it/usr/bin/skype	04:20
plustax	I can screencap if need be	04:20
goma	hello	04:21
goma	!ufw	04:21
ubottu	Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW \| An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo \| GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE Lucid and Maverick) also exist.	04:21
plustax	nit-wit, I just looked	04:21
plustax	its not in there	04:21
nit-wit	plustax, I'm not familiar with skype so the lauch I suspect is nopt there, sorry don't really know.	04:22
nit-wit	*not	04:22
punkinhell	HEY GUYS, HERE IS A PROBLEM THAT I WOULD NEED HELP FOR......I HAVE A SET OF FILES IN SERVER1 AND SAME SET OF FILE BUT WITH UPDATED DATA IN SERVER2....I NEED TO SYNC BOTH THE SET FO FILES...HOW DO I DO THAT....R8 NOW I JUST FTP INTO IT AND JUST COPY THE FILES...... I'M SURE THERE MUST BE AN ELEGANT SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM SINCE I JUST HAVE TO UPDATE THE SET OF FILES INSTEAD OF COPYING THEM IN WHOLE....	04:23
goma	I'm setting up the firewall. I don't want to allow everything out. What should I whitelist? I tried whitelisting ports 443 and 80 - but I couldn't access the internet. Why?	04:23
rww	punkinhell: I strongly recommend you toggle your capslock key off.	04:24
punkinhell	rww : i just wanted to highlight my question	04:25
alexleon	hello i think i have a java problem in my firefox nd i go to java website nd it says i need to update	04:25
Neoncamouflage	punkinhell: That's not highlighting, that's making people not read it.	04:25
Centallith	Well that is the wrong way to do it.	04:25
RenatoSilva	yay http://i.imgur.com/3hEQf.png	04:26
punkinhell	Neoncamouflage : should i repost the question then??	04:26
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nit-wit	plustax, I found this link you may find it helpul, not sure. http://ubuntuguide.net/install-skype-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-3264-bit	04:26
Centallith	Revise it a bit, reduce the yelling, then sure.	04:26
RenatoSilva	how to run a command after a sudo automatically?	04:27
Neoncamouflage	^This	04:27
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LordDragon	hey all	04:27
LordDragon	how can i tell if im running the 64 bit version of ubuntu or the 32 bit version?	04:27
rww	LordDragon: What's the output of uname -m?	04:28
LordDragon	i686	04:28
rww	LordDragon: 32-bit	04:28
LordDragon	32 bit i guess then	04:28
LordDragon	are there are advantages to running 64 bit version?	04:28
Centallith	Minor increase in processing power and speed I believe.	04:29
prt1990	hey	04:30
prt1990	hii	04:30
LordDragon	oh ok. i didnt think i could get more than 4gb of ram in 32bit	04:30
LordDragon	but it seems to show all 12Gb	04:30
rww	!pae	04:30
ubottu	To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info	04:30
rww	Ubuntu detects RAM size and installs the PAE kernel if it's useful.	04:30
LordDragon	oh. i must be using the PAE then	04:30
LordDragon	coolness	04:31
LordDragon	brb	04:31
jonathon	What is the best way to burn an *.mkv file to DVD? I tried Devede but the formating wasn't right, my DVD player read disc error and computer played empty file.	04:32
Neoncamouflage	rww, So if Ubuntu automatically installs the PAE kernel, there's really no point in installing 64 over 32, right? As you take advantage of the extra RAM regardless.	04:32
* Descriptioned Good Morning.		04:33
BryanWB	how can i disable multiple system services at once? i knew how to do this w/ sysv init scripts but no idea for upstart jobs	04:33
rww	nothingspecial: for most users, there is no noticible difference in performance between 32-bit with PAE and 64-bit, no.	04:33
rww	nothingspecial: sorry, mistab	04:34
rww	Neoncamouflage: ^^	04:34
Neoncamouflage	lol	04:34
BryanWB	$ sudo update-rc.d -f service_name remove # but how to do the same for upstart jobs?	04:34
rww	BryanWB: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting	04:35
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BryanWB	rww, ouch that's pretty crude, tks	04:36
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bullgard4	What is the function of my Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>? It is empty.	04:51
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majuk_	Hey all. General question: I have a collection of MP3s, most are VBR but some aren't. Anyone know a command line tool that can tell me which are encoded in VBR?	04:55
shareef	hi everyone.. can anyone tell me what would be the best appleIIgs emulator for ubuntu?	04:55
majuk_	'file' just says they're 128kbps	04:55
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weda	hi	04:58
m0n	hi guys. Wondering if i could get some help with ubuntu 11.04 and bluetooth/wireless issue on my laptop. Wireless works fine, but the bluetooth side of the wireless card does not work. Any help at all would be much appreciated. Laptop is a Toshiba NB550D	04:58
syclopse	is anybody having good experience is qt.?	05:05
syclopse	I am facing problem in displaying image captured from the webcam in qt	05:06
Jordan_U	syclopse: #qt would be a better place to ask.	05:11
syclopse	jordan_u: can i have link for that.?	05:12
tripelb	Hi, I found lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb the Dreamcast emulator on a web page. What is the correct method of installing it? I normally use apt-get	05:13
Jordan_U	syclopse: You are on a chat network with multiple channels. Right now you are in the channel "#ubuntu", which is for Ubuntu support questions. This is another channel, "#qt", for qt support. To join the channel #qt type "/join #qt" into your client (without the quotes).	05:14
C_Smith	hey, I can't start Transmission, and I on the System Monitor, I notice Transmission starts up as "Transmission GTK", and I also have a process called Transmission GT that I can't kill (it had been labeled as "Zombie" before I even tried ending the process), is there anything short of relogging that can fix this?	05:16
C_Smith	I'd prefer not to relog because I'm installing a bunch of software.	05:17
tertl3	C_Smith, sudo system-monitor, then kill it	05:18
C_Smith	ok	05:18
tertl3	that work?	05:19
mr_as_khan	hi guys	05:19
mr_as_khan	i need help	05:19
saptarshi	Ex-Chat	05:20
mr_as_khan	when i call from skype my system stop working (work very slowly) could you help me	05:21
k_sze	What GUI text editor is there for Xubuntu that supports multiple character encodings?	05:21
k_sze	e.g. GB18030, Big5, etc.	05:21
mr_as_khan	i also tells you this is happening after i install updates	05:21
C_Smith	well, sudo system-monitor does nothing, and sudo gnome-system-monitor brings it up, but only shows the processes that are root.	05:23
C_Smith	in other words, sudo doesn't fix this,	05:24
C_Smith	I tried killing it via Terminal naming it's pid, and that did nothing.	05:24
intlkleinblue	I just reinstalled Evolution after uninstalling it yesterday	05:24
intlkleinblue	never tried it before, I assumed it was as bloated as it was when I tried it ~10 months ago	05:25
intlkleinblue	but after looking for alternatives and getting discouraged, I reinstalled it	05:25
intlkleinblue	however, the whole message thing in the notification area is gone now	05:25
intlkleinblue	how do I bring it back for Evolution now?	05:25
m0n	intlkleinblue, did you install evolution-plugins? there should be a notifications/indicator plugin for it.	05:27
tripelb	what does THIS do? sudo dpkg -i package.deb	05:27
m0n	tripelb, that installs a debian package	05:27
m0n	i believe	05:27
C_Smith	tripelb, that installs a .deb package via dpkg.	05:28
m0n	:)	05:28
m0n	i'm going to repeate myself, but i haven't received a response to this question yet...	05:29
m0n	hi guys. Wondering if i could get some help with ubuntu 11.04 and bluetooth/wireless issue on my laptop. Wireless works fine, but the bluetooth side of the wireless card does not work. Any help at all would be much appreciated. Laptop is a Toshiba NB550D.	05:29
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uRock	!bluetooth	05:29
ubottu	For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup	05:29
tripelb	ok mon mOn m0n I want to install ... lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb .. It's a Dreamcast emulator. [guess everthing runs fine so I'm stepping out.]	05:29
tripelb	ubottu's bluetooth link does not work	05:30
ubottu	tripelb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	05:30
uRock	shame on ubottu	05:30
tripelb	oops works the second time	05:30
tripelb	shame on me	05:30
uRock	lol	05:30
tripelb	or ?	05:30
uRock	WorkForMe(TM)	05:31
tripelb	how do I install lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb .. someone on #reddit said do sudo dpkg -i package.deb --- my experience is sudo apt-get ----- so I'm branching out.	05:32
uRock	the sudo dpkg command looks correct	05:32
dunbar	what happened when you sudo dpkg -i lxdream_0.9.1_i386.deb?	05:32
m0n	tripelb, what you would do is sudo dpkg -i lxdream.0.9.1_i386.deb	05:33
C_Smith	so, I couldn't get sudo gnome-system-monitor to show the transmission-gt process, but when run regularly, the process is still there, any other suggestions?	05:33
m0n	depending on the installer you may need some extra options but generally that should do it.	05:33
C_Smith	like I said, I tried killing it via command line, and that didn't do anything.	05:33
tripelb	ah so.. m0n	05:33
tripelb	ty m0n	05:34
m0n	;)	05:34
uRock	C_Smith: do you have htop installed	05:34
C_Smith	not to my knowledge, no.	05:34
uRock	it is like top, but prettier and makes killing things via CLI much easier	05:34
uRock	to install it just run sudo apt-get htop	05:34
m0n	uRock, i've run through that... it has a bluetooth module installed, bluez is installed etc etc, it's just that the bluetooth module does NOT work. Says bluetooth is disabled, click on the turn on bluetooth button it blanks out.	05:34
C_Smith	well, I'd install it if I didn't have 45 games installing via the software center.	05:35
m0n	i've read somewhere that the ID for the bluetooth module loads the incorrect (toshiba_bluetooth) module when it should load the ath3k module	05:35
tripelb	m0n it "cannot access archive" (It's on a webpage not in an archive.)	05:35
C_Smith	and it's tough to stop that many.	05:35
uRock	m0n, I own no bluetooth stuffs, so I can't be of much help there	05:35
m0n	fair enough. sigh funny thing is it works perfectly fine in xubuntu.... :(	05:36
uRock	eek, that is a lot of stuff to have going at the same time in USC	05:36
C_Smith	45 packages including mostly games, and the Kubuntu and Xubuntu desktop environments.	05:36
m0n	tripelb, you will need to save the deb package to your computer	05:36
m0n	then run the command	05:36
uRock	C_Smith: do you have a SNickers bar, you aren't going anywhere for a while	05:36
C_Smith	guess I'll wait till tomorrow, restart, and see if this persists,	05:36
tripelb	m0n at what location will the dpkg package expect to find the file of interest. Ie where should I put it.	05:37
m0n	c_smith i find that using cli for installing packages to be MUCH quicker and more descriptive than the software centre gui	05:37
C_Smith	I know, it's getting late here, so I'll just let it run overnight, hopefully it aint still running that torrent.... kinda doubt it as the process is labeled as zombies.	05:37
m0n	anywhere.... more than likely save it to your downloads folder	05:37
C_Smith	I'm not afraid to use command line (if that's what you're talking about) IF I know the package I'm looking for,	05:38
m0n	then start up terminal, go to your downloads folder and run the package.	05:38
C_Smith	but for just browsing, I use software center, I just use command line for installing everything else, VB, SBM, etc.	05:39
m0n	fair enuff C_Smith, if i find a package i like, i generally put it into a text file, and when i rebuild my box i have a recollection of software i like and can quickly do it via CLI	05:39
* m0n shrugs		05:39
C_Smith	same here,	05:39
C_Smith	sometimes I have to use the net to find the repo if the repo changed, though, but I tend to use apt-get, A LOT.	05:40
C_Smith	well, I'm off, gonna see if this process persists in not being killable tomorrow.	05:40
dunbar	so did it install tripelb?	05:41
bullgard4_	What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?	05:42
tripelb	dunbar, I dont know where to put it so that dpkg will find the file. Do you know where?	05:42
dunbar	where is it now	05:43
m0n	tripelb, download the file to your downloads directory (eg /home/<yourusernamehere>/Downloads	05:44
tripelb	NP will do that m0n	05:44
sunit	I am giving sudo /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 restart and getting sudo: must be setuid root. please help	05:44
thomi	Does anyone know how I can find out "what packages were updated on my system yesterday"?	05:44
m0n	then go to your terminal and type in cd /home/<yourusernamehere/Downloads press enter, then type in sudo dpkg -i <thefileofthe.deb>	05:45
navigator76	ciao	05:46
Jordan_U	thomi: Look in /var/log/dpkg.log	05:46
thomi	Jordan_U: thanks	05:46
Jordan_U	thomi: You're welcome.	05:46
tharaka	hi I need a help on installing apc. I tried sudo pecl install apc. but it gives me an error saying sh: phpize: not found	05:47
tharaka	ERROR: `phpize' failed	05:47
tharaka	what is the reason for that	05:47
tharaka	can anyone help me please	05:47
tharaka	hi can anyone help me please???	05:50
tripelb	m0n, success (it's happening) but: I downloaded it and still It could not find it. Then I looked and I couldnt find it either. So I was clicking on the download link at the bottom of the webpage to see if there were 2 folders named Downloads and it started installing. (no argueing with success bu it's baffeling)	05:52
bullgard4_	thomi: Use Synaptic > File > History > July2011 > 07/17/2011	05:52
`blackmk4	would someone mind answering a few questions about briding adapters under linux?	05:53
m0n	tripelb, cool. Once it's fully downloaded try using terminal to run the package install ;)	05:53
Lasers	bullgard4_: How will you do it once synaptic is phased out of default installations (in the future)?	05:53
tripelb	I clicked install on the gui thing already.	05:54
tripelb	m0n	05:54
m0n	ah or that will do	05:54
m0n	heh	05:54
m0n	i'm a CLI kind of guy ;)	05:54
bullgard4_	Lasers: I will install Synaptic by hand.	05:54
punkinhell	is there any command in FTP to transfer only the updated portions of files like the rsync command???	05:54
thomi	punkinhell: No, I'm pretty sure there's not.	05:55
Dulak	punkinhell: no, for ftp you have to retransmit the entire file to get updates	05:55
arunkumar413	synaptic not showing the latest version of chromium browser inspite of reloading. The installed version is 12 and the latest version is 14	05:55
tyl	hi is it possible to use httpd.conf instead of apache.conf?	05:55
punkinhell	but i see that rsync is much slower than normal FTP	05:56
tyl	the default configuration forces apache2 to use apache2.conf instead of httpd.conf	05:56
fips4d	hi	05:56
tripelb	m0n do I have to start it from terminal. I suppose I need to learn that for myself. My camera doesnt work in skype unless I start skype from terminal. My cam does work in omegle as I found out. they should call it "bag o' dicks" tho. I could tell they could see me. They kept clicking off. Or askig for boobs. I kept clicking off too. It waa boring.	05:56
m0n	so in looking for a fix for my bluetooth it seems that ubuntu assigns my bluetooth the incorrect driver. It tries to use toshiba_bluetooth when it should be using ath3k (being a AR3011 bluetooth card). Any one know how to get this working?	05:56
tripelb	Oh a0n , apologies for off-topic. hangs head	05:56
bullgard4_	punkinhell: I grepped for »update« in 'man ftp' and got no output.	05:56
punkinhell	well thanks guys, just thought i should ask around b4 reinventing the wheel	05:57
m0n	tripelb not sure. probably not. i've never really had to install a deb package tbh ;)	05:57
fips4d	i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/	05:58
fips4d	what's the issue?	05:58
tripelb	m0n, now how do I start it? will it be in the menus?	05:58
arunkumar413	hi friends, i'm unable to update the chromium browser. plz help	05:59
tripelb	m0n, it's not in wine. I think I'll go look at the help pages. THanks.	06:00
tripelb	arunkumar413, it updates itself.	06:00
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bhuey	what's an easy way of setting up NAT on my machine ? URL ?	06:04
madmn	is there a centos channel i have a problem trying to connect my wireless	06:04
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madmn	is there a centos channel i have a problem trying to connect my wireless	06:06
bullgard4_	bhuey: You usually do not set up NAT on your machine but rather on your router.	06:06
dunbar	its #centos	06:06
bhuey	bullgard4_: I prefer my machine for better networking control	06:07
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ozatomic	hi guys, when i start my system i get the message "mountall: disconnected from plymouth" what is this from	06:09
thomi	Hi, on the 15th I installed the latest updates, which included a new Qt version, linux kernel, and video drivers, end ever since then my window decoration theme in unity looks really ugly. Has anyone here heard about this before? Does anyone know what the issue might be?	06:09
tripelb	m0n, can I pm you?	06:09
eagleserver	madmn, whats problem?	06:10
m0n	sure	06:10
m0n	sorry at work so doing 2 things at once	06:10
madmn	i am trying to connect my wireless in centos i have the live cd but i am not having any luck	06:10
madmn	i am back in ubuntu trying to get info on how i can do that	06:10
soulis77-SE	Hi all, a very basic question. I'm installing a new VPS server and want to disable root login. Now before that I need to set up a new user account. I want to know which permissions the user should have? I also would like to be able to edit files, install software and reboot system.	06:11
madmn	why would you not want root soulis77-SE	06:12
bhuey	anybody here know about setting up static interfaces directly ? is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated ?	06:12
Autodidactite	Does anyone know why in 10.04 the "Keep Aligned" option is still stuck on	06:13
Autodidactite	?	06:13
astraljava	bhuey: If you use NetworkManager, then yes. You need to do that by using the nm-applet.	06:13
bhuey	what about via command line remotely ?	06:13
Myrtti	madmn: ubuntu has root disabled	06:13
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Autodidactite	madmn, sudo is your friend	06:14
soulis77-SE	madmn: Easier to hack, or well they know the username. It is a server, remote host, not my local computer.	06:14
Dulak	bhuey: it's not deprecated, but any interface setup in /etc/network/interfaces won't be managed by network manager.	06:14
fips4d	i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/	06:14
fips4d	what's the issue?	06:14
Dulak	bhuey: so it's either/or, not deprecated.	06:14
madmn	what would your user that create need to do then soulis77-SE	06:15
bullgard4_	bhuey: Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation. Having done so, please put here in this channel a more specific question.	06:15
Flannel	bullgard4_: I don't think that's relevant.	06:16
madmn	soulis77-SE, you can set the permissions for the new user that you make and give any access to that user that you want that user to have	06:16
bullgard4_	Flannel: Ah! What do you think is relevant?	06:16
soulis77-SE	madmn: install, remove software, edit most files, reboot system, setting up LAMP. So Sudo is needed	06:16
madmn	its pretty easy to give that kinda access to a user	06:17
sloth	Can someone tell me how to scan my network for the ip adresses of the other users?	06:17
madmn	just be carefull who you give access to what	06:17
soulis77-SE	madmn: Yes but I then want to disable root login but don't want to lock myself out from the system by mot be able to edit the sshd_config	06:18
Autodidactite	sloth, nmap	06:18
bullgard4_	sloth: nmap	06:18
Flannel	bhuey: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/net-fixed-ip-address.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#static-ip-addressing gives you GUI and manual methods of setting static IPs (it still uses /etc/network/interfaces)	06:18
Dulak	sloth: arp -n	06:18
KeLv_MaNu	Sloth, access your router and you can view the ip	06:18
Autodidactite	Yes arp also	06:18
sloth	yes but how do i see their PC names?	06:18
sloth	it only shows me there are 3 active hosts	06:18
sloth	not whos who	06:18
madmn	as far as i know soulis77-SE root is disabled by default	06:18
Autodidactite	Some don't do that KeLv_MaNu	06:18
Dulak	sloth: find the ip, then run 'smbclient -L ip.address.here'	06:19
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madmn	the user that you made when you installed should be close to root	06:19
KeLv_MaNu	ah ok	06:19
madmn	then you can do such commands	06:19
sloth	I can't find the ip	06:19
soulis77-SE	madmn: No this is a VPS server set up by a Service Provider. My only way of access is the root at the moment.	06:19
madmn	and if the need be you can use su do for the stuff you need	06:19
Autodidactite	sloth, I believe nmap will tell you there computer names, even the OS type	06:19
sloth	whats the nmap command to list them, if there is	06:19
KeLv_MaNu	with my router i can view the ip addresses of the pcs that are connected to my network	06:20
madmn	is this ubuntu box soulis77-SE	06:20
WarOp	Just curious with ubuntu 10.10 are you still able to configure the login window wallpaper	06:20
sloth	It does Autodidactite but i can't isolte their IPs	06:20
Autodidactite	Cool, KeLv_MaNu is it a Netgear?	06:20
soulis77-SE	madmn: 10.04	06:20
KeLv_MaNu	nope, D-Link	06:20
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Autodidactite	I don't know exactly what you mean sloth	06:21
WarOp	I know if you went into Login Window in 8.10 then it'd allow you to install custom login windows	06:21
sloth	ok, I want to find the ip adress of my brothers computer	06:21
Autodidactite	Cool KeLv_MaNu, yes I have seen that in D-Link also	06:21
bullgard4_	sloth: For example ~$ nmap -sP 192.168.178.0/24 obtains with me the hostnames also.	06:21
sloth	i'	06:22
sloth	i'll try it	06:22
Autodidactite	Can you sit at your brothers computer sloth?	06:22
sloth	I can, but thats not the point	06:22
sloth	i want to know how to do it remotely	06:22
Autodidactite	Sure of course	06:22
Dulak	I told you how to do it.	06:23
WarOp	Use a sniffer	06:23
Dulak	bullgard4_ also gave you a good way to do it	06:24
bhuey	Flannel: what about command line ? this is a remote machine	06:24
Flannel	bhuey: See the second link, the serverguide one.	06:25
bullgard4_	What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?	06:26
Autodidactite	So no one knows why the "Keep Aligned" option is still stuck on in 11.04?	06:27
ossnoss	Couldn't get my d-link wifi to work at all. Had to plug right in.	06:28
Autodidactite	That can happen	06:28
Autodidactite	I have found D-Link to be very buggy	06:29
m0n	i've found alot of manufacturers to have very buggy linux support	06:29
m0n	atheros, d-link to name a few.... :P	06:29
KeLv_MaNu	thats true m0n	06:29
Autodidactite	True m0n but Modems/ Router are OS agnostic	06:30
KeLv_MaNu	linux always left behind	06:30
fips4d	i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/	06:30
fips4d	what's the issue?	06:30
ossnoss	I haven't used linux in years, just installed this ubuntu now on my windows box. I'm liking what I see so far.	06:30
m0n	Autodidactite, this is true.	06:31
saikat	hi all	06:31
Autodidactite	It's all in the browser	06:31
Autodidactite	Hi there saikat	06:31
KeLv_MaNu	hi saikat welcome	06:31
Autodidactite	Cool ossnoss	06:31
Autodidactite	I only use Ubuntu Linux nowadays	06:32
saikat	I have a problem in ubuntu 11.04	06:32
Autodidactite	I just got sick of dealing with Windows hoo har	06:32
Autodidactite	What problem is that saikat?	06:32
KeLv_MaNu	Winsucks	06:33
KeLv_MaNu	xD	06:33
Autodidactite	Microshaft Windblows	06:33
saikat	Is there any way to recover the user passwd in ubuntu 11.04?	06:33
Autodidactite	Not that I am aware of saikat	06:34
Dulak	saikat: you can boot recovery mode and then change the password, but it'd be really hard to recover the password	06:34
saikat	i have forgotten the passwd & also not able to log in in single user mode as the menu is in hidden option	06:34
Autodidactite	saikat, any other accounts on the system?	06:35
saikat	no	06:35
Dulak	saikat: hold down left shift as it boots to get the grub menu	06:35
KeLv_MaNu	log in as root if you know the pass	06:35
saikat	root user has not created	06:35
KeLv_MaNu	the root user is always there	06:36
KeLv_MaNu	i guess	06:36
sunit	I am trying to run postgres and getting error as Insecure directory in $ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /usr/bin/pg_ctlcluster line 63. [fail]	06:36
Flannel	saikat: LiveCD	06:36
Dulak	it's there just locked with no password	06:36
Autodidactite	I didn't know you could do that KeLv_MaNu. Nice one, I have never had to that	06:37
terxx	\quit	06:37
saikat	in recovery mode there i found a option....its root.,...Drop to root shell promt	06:38
KeLv_MaNu	hehe	06:38
saikat	i think i can change the passwd now	06:38
KeLv_MaNu	its like login as admin in windows to erase the user pw	06:38
Autodidactite	Cool	06:38
Autodidactite	I must remember this	06:38
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saikat	thanks every one	06:39
saikat	i change the user passwd now	06:40
soulis77-SE	When disable the root login, Can I still log in as another user and then thange to root? Or to use su command for root account?	06:40
KeLv_MaNu	nice saikat ;-)	06:40
KeLv_MaNu	soulis, i guess you can use su command	06:40
Blue1	you prolly want to use su -	06:41
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: use sudo for everything	06:41
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: not su	06:41
KeLv_MaNu	yes sudo	06:41
KeLv_MaNu	su is for login as super user	06:41
Blue1	KeLv_MaNu: yes - but there is a diff between su and su -	06:42
KeLv_MaNu	i didnt knew that blue	06:42
Dulak	sudo -i	06:42
Myrtti	Blue1: and su - is not encouraged either	06:42
Dulak	not su, not su -, use 'sudo -i'	06:42
KeLv_MaNu	and the "-i" is for?	06:43
Dulak	interactive shell	06:43
al_nz1	whats wrong with sshfs user@192.168.70.102 -p 443 /mnt/windows ? I get mssing host error?	06:43
KeLv_MaNu	oohh	06:43
Dulak	it gives you a properly configured root shell, which su doesn't always do.	06:44
Blue1	Dulak: yes	06:44
soulis77-SE	ok, but I want to disable root login from ssh but still be able to access the account. Can I login as xxxx and the su - to root ?	06:44
KeLv_MaNu	good to know that blue, thx	06:44
fips4d	i'm getting this error: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/441240/	06:44
soulis77-SE	Or will it be locked since i disable root loginb?	06:44
fips4d	what's the issue?	06:44
Blue1	al_nz1: not sure but isn't 443 used by samba?	06:45
Lasers	fips4d: "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available" -- and you tried to use Debian package on Ubuntu system.	06:45
sloth	so... how do i reveal the active ips through a scan?	06:45
KeLv_MaNu	soulis you can still use the sudo command	06:45
Dulak	soulis77-SE: if you disable root in sshd_config, you can still be root, you just can't login directly as root. If however you lock root with system tools, you cannot use su, and would only be able to use sudo	06:46
soulis77-SE	Ok, thanks everyone. I'm disable root login in sshd_config and login as another user and then change to su - whenever needed.	06:47
soulis77-SE	eeShe6ai!	06:47
soulis77-SE	is not a good passoword for a root account. Or how many signs do you all use? 10, 15 or more?	06:48
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: ubuntu doesn't come with root password enabled	06:49
lonix	soulis77-SE: dont use a root password	06:49
wildbat	soulis77-SE: why not just sudo -i or -s ~?	06:49
Dulak	enabling root is just opening an attack vector for no good reason	06:50
Autodidactite	Yes I agree totally, sudo -i all the way	06:50
KeLv_MaNu	soulis you can use the same pw of your user account	06:50
KeLv_MaNu	if you want	06:50
Autodidactite	Yes it is very easy once you know how	06:50
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: that's very horrible advice	06:51
KeLv_MaNu	well its better than not assign a pw at all	06:51
Autodidactite	What?	06:51
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: just because it's less crappy than another option isn't a good reason to give 'less crappy' advice.	06:52
soulis77-SE	hey i changed it to 20 characters and then user account is different.	06:52
KeLv_MaNu	haha	06:52
soulis77-SE	And the root will be disabled when I set up some more stuff on the server.	06:52
Autodidactite	I thought you people were talking about doing sudo or sudo -i	06:52
KeLv_MaNu	just saying	06:52
bullgard4_	What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?	06:52
KeLv_MaNu	sorry if you didnt liked it	06:52
KeLv_MaNu	if you have a good pass you can use it for both accounts	06:53
Autodidactite	I don't know KeLv_MaNu	06:53
KeLv_MaNu	anyone have to know that	06:53
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Autodidactite	Oops I meant bullgard4	06:53
KeLv_MaNu	sorry, not anyone have to know that*	06:53
Autodidactite	I don't know bullgard4	06:54
fips4d	Lasers: no, vice versa, actually...ubuntu packages on a debian system...	06:54
Autodidactite	bullgard4, have you tried to search engine it?	06:54
fips4d	Lasers: are you able to retrieve this key?	06:54
lonix	what was the battery info command again ?	06:55
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: please stop giving bad advice	06:55
Lasers	fips4d: No. I didn't bother to look for it. >_>	06:55
Autodidactite	Was there mention of enabling the root account?	06:55
Dulak	yes	06:56
KeLv_MaNu	i just want to keep it simple	06:56
bullgard4_	Autodidactite: If you had a closer look at the problem you would have seen that this problem is not amenable to googleing.	06:56
tuxx-	lonix: acpi -b	06:56
Autodidactite	Yes the mysterious folder, I was just checking your process so far	06:57
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: it's bad advice, if a password is compromised, regardless of how good it is, you lost 2 accounts, including root, for the price of 1 password. It's just not a good idea.	06:57
KeLv_MaNu	i know that risk	06:57
lonix	tuxx-: thanks mate	06:57
Autodidactite	Why not just use sudo and sudo -i?	06:57
tuxx-	monday mornings >_>	06:58
lollab	hello, I mounted an external harddrive through smbmount, but arabic characters are showed with ???? marks, anybody can help?	06:58
tuxx-	my head feels like its gonna explode	06:58
tuxx-	i hope it doesnt	06:58
Autodidactite	lollab sounds like corruption to me.	06:58
KeLv_MaNu	a good advice? use 2 different pw with numbers, letters and symbols	06:59
Lasers	Or leave root with random password. Use sudo -i for everything.	06:59
wildbat	lollab: smbmoun to mount external HDD?~ you mean windows share right?	06:59
Autodidactite	Don't have the root account enabled at all?	06:59
lollab	wildbat, yes the harddrive exports data via windows share	06:59
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: that's alright, but the best advice is to leave root locked and use sudo -i to get a root shell when you need it	07:00
lollab	Autodidactite, no, I don't think so, I see english characters normally	07:00
KeLv_MaNu	that can be a better choice	07:00
lollab	wildbat, Autodidactite file names with arabic names seen as ????.doc	07:00
wildbat	lollab: you didn't set the character set	07:01
Autodidactite	lollab, then I would say that there is some sort of corruption going on.	07:01
Dulak	lollab: that's a codepage issue, you need to set the character set correctly	07:01
KeLv_MaNu	but if you forgot the user pw, logining as root could help when you want to recover or erase the forgotten pw	07:01
rahul_	currently I am using ubuntu 11.04, is there any way I can downgrade it to 10.10 without formatting my Hard Disk	07:02
Autodidactite	Very true KeLv_MaNu, good point	07:02
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: you boot recovery mode for that, passwordless root access. It's just better to leave root locked.	07:02
Lasers	!downgrade \| rahul_	07:02
ubottu	rahul_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.	07:02
wildbat	lollab: mount with mount option "iocharset=utf8"	07:03
KeLv_MaNu	root access without pw?	07:03
Lasers	rahul_: Use 10.04 LTS	07:03
kierge	anyone have experience with acidrip ? i just encoded a movie but there was no video output. i selected xvid and set abr:br=256 for sound.	07:03
rahul_	Lasers : what do you mean by that?	07:03
Lasers	kierge: Handbrake works well for me.	07:03
kierge	or can anyone recommend a easy way to rip to xvid retail dvds from ubuntu ?	07:03
Dulak	rahul_: not really, though you can save your prefs by backing up your home dir before you wipe it. And keep /home on a seperate partition to make it a much easier thing to do in the future	07:03
kierge	Lasers, handbrake no longer writes to avi in its latest versions	07:04
Lasers	rahul_: In other words, you can't downgrade. Just backup /home/rahul/ and /etc/	07:04
saikat	Hi all	07:04
lollab	wildbat, oh thank you, I seen this in the man page, but didn't know what iocharset	07:04
lollab	wildbat, let me try , few mins	07:04
saikat	I have a question	07:04
rahul_	Lasers : why should I backup /etc/	07:04
Lasers	kierge: Start using mkv?	07:04
kierge	i could do that. what would i use for mkv ?	07:05
os_	Which port does Evolution mail use for sending mails via smtp.gmail.com by default?	07:05
saikat	How to install Tamil Language pack in ubuntu 11.04	07:05
kierge	need an easy solution	07:05
Lasers	rahul_: You don't have to -- but it won't hurt. It's only 10MB at most. Your systemwide settings.	07:05
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: yes, recovery mode boots a single user root shell, without a password. The idea is that if someone has physical access to the machine, you are boned without encryption anyways.	07:05
Lasers	kierge: What do you mean? Easy solution? Most computers with VLC can run MKV just fine.	07:05
rahul_	Lasers : okay. thanks	07:05
Dulak	mp4 runs much better for me, vlc mkv support isn't awesome yet	07:06
Lasers	rahul_: /etc/apt/sources.list (and among many things) are under /etc/ -- Sometimes we make changes and forget to keep them.	07:06
KeLv_MaNu	at least physical access is required	07:06
os_	Can someone please suggest how can I find the default port being used by Evolution for sending mails	07:06
kierge	Lasers i meant the encoding	07:06
Dulak	i'm on a netbook though, on a good cpu you prolly wouldn't notice the difference	07:06
rahul_	Lasers : thats why it is necessary?	07:06
KeLv_MaNu	but isnt secure at all	07:06
Autodidactite	I have recently changed my video player preference from VLC back to Movie Player	07:06
Dulak	os_: sending mail is port 25 or 587 for email	07:07
mojz	hello i dont know how to set permissions for ftp clients	07:07
Myrtti	os_: depends on your email provider, smtp uses 25	07:07
lollab	wildbat, unfortunately, didn't work out	07:07
trevorj	Isn't there a package that puts /etc in a versioning system of sorts?	07:07
lollab	wildbat, the command accepted however	07:07
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: it's not a big deal, if they boot a livecd they can just mount the hdd and have root access anyways.	07:07
trevorj	I remember a project to do such and I remember there being a package for it that was dead easy to use	07:08
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: but you can encrypt the data on disk that is sensitive, for level of protection against physical access.	07:08
Lasers	rahul_: Necessary or not. It's an option. I mean, you don't have to back up your home directory too. -- But you want to. It's up to you.	07:08
lollab	wildbat, this is the command: smbmount //192.168.1.253/users /media/HD_users/ -o username=xyz,password=abc,iocharset=utf8	07:08
os_	Well, if I don't give any port the mails are sent just fine to my id on gmail.com. But if i set the port to 25, 587 or 465 the sending mail fails.	07:08
KeLv_MaNu	true	07:08
wildbat	lollab: what version of windows you use ~? you may have to try other codepages.	07:08
os_	the server being used is smtp.gmail.com	07:08
rahul_	Lasers : I have got about 150+GB data in my home directory and I dont wanna lose it	07:09
Viking667	'llo. does anyone have any issues when they ping www.google.com? My Ubuntu machines (natty) all seem to wait for five seconds between each ping reply...yet if I ping the IP directly, I get responses every second, like normal.	07:09
pratz	whats the best pdf writer for linux ??	07:09
Viking667	hm. I use Openoffice, probably LibreOffice would do the same.	07:09
Dulak	os_: outbound email is typically blocked by residential isps, I'm guessing it's maybe using port 80, but that's kinda weird	07:09
KeLv_MaNu	the pws are encrypted and saved in a database file, right?	07:09
lollab	wildbat, the harddrive doens't run windows, its an external disk with network interface and people just get into share and find files. I'm trying to mount in order to copy the files to my system	07:10
Dulak	pratz: you can print to pdf from any application, so 'best' is kinda hard to define.	07:10
Lasers	rahul_: Wow. Back them up. I generally keep hard drives separated so reinstalling any OS is relatively easy for me. :)	07:10
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: they are hashed, not encrypted, but yes	07:10
KeLv_MaNu	oh ok	07:11
rahul_	Lasers : I dont have any other HardDisk with me, I dont know how I am going to backup my data...but I will surely arrange something soon	07:11
j-r	Hi I want to allocate an array of files. I have seen the sytax: FILES=(*.jpg) but it is not correct. I use the bourne shell.	07:11
Autodidactite	kierge, I used to do this really easily and well	07:11
pratz	Dulak: i am asking for a pdf writer	07:11
wildbat	lollab: can't gnome nautilus automount it ?	07:11
Viking667	pratz: what are you wanting to put into the pdf writer? text? Pictures? html?	07:11
Dulak	pratz: hit print, choose 'print to file' then 'pdf'. Pdf written.	07:11
lollab	wildbat, actually no gnome installed , I have ubuntu server	07:12
robinsch	I want something	07:12
pratz	Viking667: almost all of that	07:12
lollab	wildbat, do you suggest to install one?	07:12
os_	with port 587 i get 'connection reset by peer' error. Is is coz my ISP is doing something fishy here.. :-/	07:12
Lasers	rahul_: Meanwhile, use 11.04 until you have something in place. I guess. I'd recommend you to use multiple hard drives as to keep OS and 150GB~ data of personal consumption separated. :)	07:12
Autodidactite	So do I robinsch	07:12
robinsch	sorry, wrong window	07:12
Dulak	pratz: you can do that from just about any application in linux, so the app you use depends on what you want in the pdf	07:12
Viking667	Dulak: what apps support that? I haven't seen a "printer driver" that outputs pdf.	07:13
KeLv_MaNu	Someone read about Ubuntu apps running on webOS HP Touchpad?	07:13
Dulak	Viking667: it's been built into cups for about 7 years now.	07:13
Lasers	Viking667: Just print something. You'll see it there. "Ctrl + P" Select PDF.	07:13
rahul_	Lasers : do you know any good themes 11.04?	07:13
Viking667	weird... I wasn't aware cups had that by default.	07:13
Lasers	Viking667: "Save to file" -- Something. I'm not quite sure. :)	07:13
Dulak	Yeah it's nifty.	07:13
Viking667	... given I come from the lpd era, it's been ... a while.	07:13
Lasers	rahul_: I use Shiki-Colors Fat.	07:13
lollab	wildbat, I will try to use mount -t cifs	07:13
Lasers	rahul_: Flat*	07:14
pratz	any pdf editor actually	07:14
Juozas	os_ have you opened the port in router if you have one	07:14
rahul_	Lasers : can you tell me from where I can download it?	07:14
os_	Juozas: oh thanks for the pointer. Lemme check it out.	07:14
Dulak	pratz: pdf is not supposed to be an editable file. It's a digital printout, not an editable document.	07:14
Lasers	rahul_: http://goo.gl/VKq5y	07:14
rahul_	Lasers : downloading it	07:15
Lasers	rahul_: Cool.	07:15
Juozas	also os_, check your firewall for ports too (ether windows one or on linux (iptables probably))	07:15
lollab	wildbat, ops! I figured that I'm on the directory mounted, I was umount while I'm in the directory itselt :)	07:16
Dulak	pratz: so lets say you want to make a flyer. You fire up your graphics program, let's say inkscape. You design the flyer, then you save it as an editable graphics file. Then you print to pdf to get a pdf version.	07:16
rahul_	Lasers : how to install it?	07:16
wildbat	lollab: so it worked?	07:16
lollab	wildbat, iocharset worked correctly, thank you!	07:16
KeLv_MaNu	you can convert the pdf file to doc file then edit it and save it as pdf	07:16
bullgard4_	What is the function of my empty Natty directory /tmp/virtual-<username><6-digit_random_ID>?	07:17
Lasers	rahul_: Install it in ~/.themes	07:17
Lasers	rahul_: Just plop it there, really.	07:17
wildbat	lollab: lol~ good for you , i think they should have make utf8 as default by now ~ but oh well ~	07:17
rahul_	Lasers : directly the .zip file?	07:17
Dulak	KeLv_MaNu: you lose all the formatting, and sometimes words, depending on what charset it is. It's not made to be directly editable.	07:17
Lasers	rahul_: No. Bunch of Shiki folders.	07:17
KeLv_MaNu	thats the risk	07:18
Lasers	bullgard4_: Search Engines said it comes from gvfs	07:19
rahul_	Lasers : this theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Shiki-Colors-Flat-Metacity' is not installed" what should I do?	07:19
rahul_	Lasers : "This theme will not look as intended because the required window manager theme 'Shiki-Colors-Flat-Metacity' is not installed" what should I do?	07:19
Lasers	rahul_: Dun dun dun. Try other themes. I don't think that's the theme you wanted.	07:20
rahul_	Lasers : the theme is looking good but there are many things missing....how to install this theme in metacity?	07:21
ossnoss	I got these USB headphones by cyber acoustic. I plug them in, the power comes on but they don't work. Is it possible to get them working?	07:22
Lasers	rahul_: I use compiz. Unsure about metacity. You should do this -- "sudo apt-get install gnome-colors" for icons.	07:23
bullgard4_	Lasers: Thank you.	07:24
rahul_	Lasers : you are using ubuntu 11.04 or 10.10?	07:25
intlkleinblue	m0n: I'm downloading package right now and will test it soon	07:26
Lasers	rahul_: I'm not using Ubuntu -- but I'm using Gnome.	07:27
Lasers	rahul_: I like giving out candies and supports.	07:27
rahul_	Lasers : thats good man. I am using 11.04 but without unity.	07:28
* YankDownUnder feels sorry for anyone running 11.04		07:28
saikat	how to install Tamil Language pack in Ubuntu 11.04 ?	07:29
rahul_	YankDownUnder : thats funny	07:29
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YankDownUnder	rahul_, Actually, it's rather sad, my friend...	07:29
Voting	Hi, folks. Trying to use gparted to convert a 3TB USB drive which came formatted w/ NTFS to ext4. Not seeing the /dev/sdb1 device and don't know how to get it to show up (nor do I now how to convert to ext4 w/o gparted off hand.) Thanks!	07:30
rahul_	YankDownUnder : Its very sad. I am suffering badly. I wanna go back to ubuntu 10.10	07:30
KeLv_MaNu	i'm using 11.04 ubuntu studio	07:30
YankDownUnder	Voting, In all actuality, you'd want to repartition and reformat the drive - as long as you've gotten all the data off of it...	07:31
Lasers	3TB or not, USB drives suck and have short life span.	07:31
Voting	YankDownUnder: yes, it is a new drive. Nothing on it I care about.	07:31
Voting	Lasers: thinks. I'm just going to use it to back stuff up.	07:32
YankDownUnder	Voting, Well my friend, you can very nicely just use gParted to blow out the existing partition and start afresh...	07:32
Voting	Lasers: thanks, rather. How do I make it show up in gparted	07:32
flexy	How do I set sda to have deadline scheduler right at boot, so that the rest of the disks still get cfg scheduler? (I have ssd as sda, other drives are normal spindles...)	07:32
Lasers	Voting: I'm guessing you ought to umount it first and refresh gparted?	07:32
Voting	YankDownUnder: how do I do it? I'm not seeing the device.	07:32
YankDownUnder	Voting, It might not show up if, repeat IF it was formatted "dynamically" by MS Windows...	07:33
YankDownUnder	Voting, are you comfortable using fdisk from the terminal?	07:33
llutz_	Voting: you need to set partitiontable type to "gpt", not msdos	07:33
rahul_	can anyone please help me install this theme http://tinyurl.com/6hhgvyh I am using ubuntu 11.04	07:34
Voting	llutz, don't know how to do that.	07:34
Voting	llutz_: how do I reset to gpt?	07:34
YankDownUnder	Voting, Question: do you see the device when you open a term and type: sudo fdisk -l => you'll get a listing of devices that are seen by the system...	07:35
Voting	devices only has the main hard drive.	07:35
llutz_	Voting: not sure if gparted can do, parted would work	07:35
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llutz_	YankDownUnder: afaik fdisk cannot handle gpt-drives (drives >2TB) correctly	07:36
s7nf	guys where can I check which network card am I using?	07:37
Voting	fdisk -l =>	07:37
Voting	Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System	07:37
Voting	/dev/sdb1 257 732558336 2930232320 7 HPFS/NTFS	07:37
YankDownUnder	llutz_, Hmmm....roger that...	07:37
llutz_	s7nf: lspci \| grep -i net	07:37
YankDownUnder	Voting, Is that the drive?	07:37
nkh	hi every body! any one can help me for an easy way to upgrade my gcc to 4.6 in Lucid ?	07:37
Voting	YankDownUnder: yes, fdisk sees it.	07:38
s7nf	llutz, thx	07:38
nkh	I'm in a hury unfortunately :\|	07:38
YankDownUnder	Voting, Right. So then you'd want to use fdisk to blow the partition (/dev/sdb1) and then you'd be able to re-partition and then reformat...are you ready to try this?	07:38
nkh	Is there any repo to add and apt-get it to do all? I also need g++ to be the same version	07:38
nkh	So gcc and g++ 4.6	07:39
nkh	any help!?	07:39
flexy	nkh: source...	07:39
flexy	nkh: install from source...	07:39
Voting	llutz_ how do I set the partitiontable type to "gpt" ? Is that what I need to do next?	07:39
flexy	How do I set sda to have deadline scheduler right at boot, so that the rest of the disks still get cfg scheduler? (I have ssd as sda, other drives are normal spindles...)	07:39
flexy	I know the elevator=deadline line to /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT... but it changes the default elevator. The rest of the disks get the same elevator. I could echo to /sys/block/... at boot time, but then when usb hdds are attached, they too get the deadline elevator...	07:39
lollab	wildbat, yes it worked, yes it should be by default	07:39
nkh	flexy: Ok which sources I should get !? for both g++ and gcc ?	07:40
lollab	wildbat, thanks	07:40
nkh	flexy: can you lead me a link?	07:40
flexy	nkh: sure, compile and install	07:40
flexy	nkh: no, but google is your friend	07:40
llutz_	Voting: seems fdisk learned to use >2TB-drives, just try to partition it to your needs	07:40
Voting	YankDownUnder: I'm happy to blow the partition if that is the right next step, yes.	07:40
flexy	nkh: there might be a repo also, but I don't know about those	07:40
nkh	flexy: yes you right I'm in hury and I can't think on what i say :D	07:40
nkh	flexy: Hmmm tnx	07:41
Voting	llutz_: HOW should I do the partioning? I'm trying to do it w/ gparted and the devices menu still does not have the /deev/sdb1 device in there.	07:42
llutz_	Voting: use fdisk	07:42
YankDownUnder	Voting, Right oh. So, do: fdisk /dev/sdb => and then you can type "d" to delete the partition => it will show you the partitions. Then you can type "w" to write the partition table (this will be an empty partition now), and "q" to quit fdisk. At this point, you should be able to run gParted and actually SEE the device...if not, then we can use fdisk again to create a partition and then format it after that, eh?	07:42
Voting	YankDownUnder: THANKS!	07:43
YankDownUnder	Voting, Roger that.	07:43
llutz_	Voting: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb "t" to change type of sdb1 to "83"	07:43
Voting	YankDownUnder: sadly, I'm stupid about disk partioning so I was hoping to do it all in a graphical UI.	07:43
nkh	flexy: one another Q ! does g++ have another source for itself ? or gcc contains g++ ?	07:43
ghufran	hi. is there a way to get some of the applets from older versions back? like the inhibiter applet .. or force quit applet ..	07:43
YankDownUnder	Voting, Follow what I just wrote - when you're done, you might be surprised.	07:43
llutz_	Voting: "w" "q" done, then "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 "	07:43
flexy	nkh: don't know about that.	07:44
llutz_	Voting: err* "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1 "	07:44
nkh	flexy: Thanks	07:44
Voting	YankDownUnder: should I start with sudo fdisk /dev/sdb "t" ?	07:44
YankDownUnder	Voting, No. Just do as I suggested. "d" for delete, then partition "1". Then "w" (write) and "q" to quit. Then fire up gParted and see what you can see. IF gParted doesn't see it, we'll use fdisk to create a new partition, eh?	07:45
HackNewton	hi	07:48
HackNewton	can anybody know a good download manager for Gnome Ububtu which i can attach with chrome ?	07:48
YankDownUnder	HackNewton, You want to chrome plate a download manager? Hmmm...	07:50
s7nf	guys, can I do (tagged) vlan between two computers directly connected over ethernet (without router/switch)?	07:50
Lasers	More of Chrome Extension question than Ubuntu.	07:50
HackNewton	YankDownUnder, I mean google chrome browser	07:50
YankDownUnder	HackNewton, ;)	07:51
HackNewton	YankDownUnder, nice one though, you know any ?	07:51
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YankDownUnder	HackNewton, Um, no. I just use it straight outta the box...however, there appears to be 22,600,000 returned search results for what you're asking... ;)	07:52
kz3	can anyone please help me install this theme http://tinyurl.com/6hhgvyh	07:53
kz3	I am using ubuntu 11.04	07:53
HackNewton	YankDownUnder, yeah i googled it but... they are out of my need	07:53
Voting	YankDownUnder: I'm worried, please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/646285/ - When I typed "w" it dumped me out w/o my having to quit. Did it work right or did something go wrong?	07:53
llutz_	Voting: more important is the warning, fdisk gave you. use parted to change partitiontable format	07:55
kz3	can anyone help me in installing a theme?	07:55
YankDownUnder	Voting, Try then this: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb => "c" => "w" => "q"	07:55
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s7nf	guys, can I do (tagged) vlan between two computers directly connected over ethernet (without router/switch)?	07:56
YankDownUnder	kz3, Mate, you're trying to install a GTK2 theme on a GTK3 system.	07:56
bobweaver	any grub guru around	07:56
YankDownUnder	bobweaver, I've eaten grubs. Cooked (actually, fried).	07:56
HackNewton	lol	07:56
bobweaver	lol	07:56
kz3	YankDownUnder : means I cant install it?	07:56
YankDownUnder	kz3, Um....short answer: no.	07:56
john	anybody?	07:57
bobweaver	I am looking for the fule that list all grub history and also	07:57
HackNewton	kz3, find themes for GTK3	07:57
YankDownUnder	bobweaver, Fule? Um...FILE?	07:58
bobweaver	YankDownUnder: yes sir	07:58
Lasers	Fuel?	07:58
YankDownUnder	bobweaver, /var/log/boot.log ??	07:58
ikonia	file	07:58
wd40s	what would be a good distro to move onto after ubuntu?	07:58
thegoodcushion	wd40s: why are you moving on?	07:58
ikonia	wd40s: what ever you want, it's personal choice, no-one says you have to change	07:58
bobweaver	wd40s: look at distro watsh	07:59
HackNewton	wd40s, well here are ubuntu fans	07:59
YankDownUnder	wd40s, hehehehehhehe...BeOS!	07:59
kz3	HackNewton : dude what about this one http://tinyurl.com/6xh5mad ?	07:59
bobweaver	wd40s: look at distro watch *	07:59
dunbar	Kubuntu?	07:59
HackNewton	dunbar, nice suggestion :D	07:59
wd40s	well i want something more involved where i can learn more about linux	07:59
john	hi,I'm from China.	07:59
bobweaver	you can add kde to ubunut	08:00
bobweaver	you can add kde to ubuntu	08:00
llutz_	wd40s: that depends on YOU not on the distro you use	08:00
dunbar	you can learn a lot on ubuntu	08:00
bobweaver	Distrowatch	08:00
HackNewton	wd40s, distro dont come in way while learning linux	08:00
vikapi	wd40s, wat exactly r u expecting from a linux distro..	08:00
Voting	YankDownUnder: Please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/646289/ gparted still does not have this new device in the menu.	08:00
YankDownUnder	Debian Squeeze? Gentoo? Arch? Slackware?	08:00
vikapi	wd40s: almost all linux distro be it debian or redhat or arch or slack are similar..not same though	08:00
ikonia	chaps - other distros are not this channels problem/concern, maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic	08:01
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KeLv_MaNu	if you want to learn more about how linux works, use arch or gentoo	08:01
bobweaver	ikonia: +1	08:01
llutz_	Voting: use "parted". "sudo parted /dev/sdb" then "mklabel gpt" "mkpart primary 0 3001G" "quit" then "sudo mkfs.ext4 -m0 /dev/sdb1"	08:01
kutumbaba	Hey guyz	08:01
YankDownUnder	Voting, As llutz_ suggested, try running "parted" - not gParted - on this drive. If it's not installed (should be) then install it...	08:01
wd40s	i was thinking about trying out arch but ive heard there can be security issues since they dont sign their packages	08:02
kutumbaba	Where can i get fancy shmancy login splash screen?	08:02
ikonia	wd40s: then you need to do more research as that you are saying has no relevence, however I suggest you take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat more	08:02
john_rambo	Hi, if upgrade to Ubuntu 11.10 now, will the wine PPA work ?	08:03
Lasers	john_rambo: PPA will be disabled if I remember it correctly.	08:03
ikonia	john_rambo: 11.10 is not supported at all, so it's not something we suggest	08:03
Carnage__	Hey guys. Starting this morning, I've been having serious issues with my (K)ubuntu 11.04. Several programs do not start anymore, clicking the K-Menu butto does not work anymore, etc. For example, Firefox does not start anymore. When I start it with strace, I see that its last action is to try to read from a socket in /tmp/.ICE-unix and there it hangs	08:03
rww	john_rambo: If you upgrade to Ubuntu oneiric now, your computer will burst into flames and then eat your cat. It is not stable at all, and the Wine PPA will be the least of your problems.	08:03
Voting	llutz_ and YankDownUnder: thanks! OK, will try. Sorry I'm so slow/dumb about these things. I do them so rarely.	08:03
Carnage__	Since I also got a few messages that programs cannot connect to localhost, I assumed it to be a network problem. However, I can ping localhost and also remote URLs...	08:03
* YankDownUnder thinks that having yer distro eat your cat is worse than things bursting into flames		08:04
john_rambo	Lasers, ikonia rww Okay ..... I will wait then	08:04
Luca	Hello	08:05
kutumbaba	Please don't remove synaptic from 11.10 coz i depend on it heavily..	08:05
Luca	when I try to extract a file it gives Child returned status 2	08:05
HackNewton	Carnage__, if you have firewall enable try to view into its log if localhost had been blocked	08:05
Luca	tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now	08:05
YankDownUnder	Voting, Patience is a virtue...taking time to learn something is always a good effort, not a waste.	08:05
Carnage__	HackNewton: I did not enable one actively, but it could be that it is running by default. Where would I check?	08:06
rww	kutumbaba: please feel free to install it, then. packages taken out of the default install do not disappear, they're still in the repositories.	08:06
Lasers	kutumbaba: You could always install it back afterward.	08:06
HackNewton	Carnage__, there is default firwall you can find in System Setting	08:06
kz3	Lasers: can you help me install this theme http://tinyurl.com/6xh5mad ?	08:06
Luca	when I try to extract a file it gives Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now I am on SSH (server)	08:06
Voting	llutz_: after I typed "mkpart primary 0 3001G" it says: "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance.	08:06
Voting	Ignore/Cancel?" what should I do?	08:06
Lasers	kz3: rahul?	08:07
Voting	YankDownUnder: thanks for the encouragement. should I cancel?	08:07
llutz_	Voting: read google about "partition alignment". sorry can't help you with that, i never had to do that	08:07
kutumbaba	I don't have fast and reliable inet connecshun to use software center. Instead i try to resolve the dependencies manually and install them from local disk	08:07
kz3	Lasers : yes, actually I Just registered on freenode , so I chose a new username, I hope its okay	08:08
YankDownUnder	Voting, No...just hang on a tick...	08:08
Carnage__	HackNewton: I cannot access the KMenu (as well as System Settings)	08:08
Voting	YankDownUnder: hanging!	08:08
Lasers	kz3: That's for Gnome3, I think. You, on other hands, are using Unity.	08:08
kz3	Lasers : I am not using unity anymore	08:08
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YankDownUnder	Voting, Choose "ignore" and continue the process laid out by llutz_ => once that is done, you can "check" the partition afterwards.	08:08
Voting	YankDownUnder: thanks! will do...	08:09
Lasers	kz3: Well, try and plop it in ~/.themes	08:09
kz3	Lasers : thats it??	08:10
Voting	llutz_: its writing the inode tables.	08:11
tyl	where is php located?	08:11
Lasers	kz3: Either that or launch Appearances, drag the file to that window.	08:11
YankDownUnder	kz3, Remember, plopping is hard to do, mate.	08:11
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llutz_	!info parted	08:11
ubottu	parted (source: parted): The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 2.3-5ubuntu5 (natty), package size 50 kB, installed size 200 kB	08:11
kz3	Lasers : thanks man	08:11
Lasers	!php \| tyl	08:11
ubottu	tyl: PHP is an HTML-embedded scripting language. A command-line only version can be installed in Ubuntu with the "php5-cli" package. See also !lamp for integrated server PHP. The Ubuntu server PHP5 guide is found at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/php5.html	08:11
tyl	i need to run this command	08:11
Lasers	tyl: "sudo dpkg -L $PACKAGE_NAME"	08:12
joobie	hey guys.. anyone know how to make the 'date' command output 1 or 2 alternatively, based on the week it is in? so for example week1 of the year output 1, week 2 output 2, week 3 output 1, etc..	08:12
tyl	in mac osx i do this	08:12
llutz_	hmpf, parte-faq says parted should align partitions automagically since 1.7...	08:12
tyl	Applications/MAMP/bin/php5.2/bin/php push.php development	08:12
cyc	hello, I've got a bunch of packages marked as "ri" in "dpk -l" output. Packages seem to be installed fine, but what does that "r" mean?	08:12
Lasers	joobie: Make a script, me think.	08:12
tyl	i need to know where bin/php is located on ubuntu	08:12
llutz_	tyl: "which php" if empty, sudo apt-get install php5-cli	08:13
llutz_	tyl: /usr/bin/php most likely	08:13
tyl	llutz_: i already have installed php	08:13
kz3	Lasers : its a .7z file and its giving an error when I am try to drag it into "Appearence"	08:14
llutz_	tyl: the -cli package aswell?	08:14
kutumbaba	tyl: type where php	08:14
Lasers	kz3: Uncompress it. Un7z the file.	08:14
llutz_	!info php5-cli	08:14
ubottu	php5-cli (source: php5): command-line interpreter for the php5 scripting language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 (natty), package size 2876 kB, installed size 7632 kB	08:14
kz3	Lasers : you know any program which can unzip it?	08:14
Lasers	kz3: Search for 7z in the repo. I'm sure you'll find it.	08:15
tyl	in ubuntu's terminal bash what does green and teal files mean?	08:15
kz3	Lasers : you mean software centre?	08:15
Lasers	kz3: I think so.	08:15
kz3	Lasers : sorry man but I am a noob	08:15
Da\|Mummy	how do i figure out if a usb device ive got plugged in is usb1.1 or usb2?	08:16
Lasers	kz3: I said I think so (because I don't use Software Center myself so I'm not quite sure).	08:16
lonix	Lasers: its in software center	08:16
tyl	llutz_: yes cli is installed	08:16
YankDownUnder	kz3, You're only a n00b until you learn something. Then you're "an educated n00b"	08:16
Lasers	lonix: Cool. Thank you. :)	08:16
lonix	np	08:16
kz3	Lasers : I am installing a software which can uncompress the 7z	08:17
tyl	kutumbaba: i can't run where as a command says not found	08:17
llutz_	tyl: "which php"	08:17
Voting	YankDownUnder and/or llutz_ what do I do when the thing is done writing inodes and completes? its only up to 5k of the 22k it needs... (and When people type stuff like " !info php5-cli " what DB is the bot using to answer these questions? Where do I read about this cool bot and what it can do for me?)	08:17
kz3	YankDownUnder : very true	08:17
lonix	kz3: from software center ?	08:17
tyl	which php	08:17
tyl	opps that was suppose to go into terminal	08:17
kz3	lonix : ??	08:17
llutz_	tyl: that is a command	08:17
llutz_	!bot \| Voting	08:17
ubottu	Voting: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi \| Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins \| Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots	08:17
kutumbaba	Oof sorry mah bad	08:17
YankDownUnder	Voting, Ya wait until it's finished writing out the inodes my friend...it's a large drive...might take a while dude...	08:18
Voting	llutz_: you are most helpful!	08:18
lonix	kz3: did you search for 7z in software center ?	08:18
Lasers	Voting: More than an hour, I'd imagine! :)	08:18
Voting	YankDownUnder: I might fall asleep. I tis 4:18 in NYC.	08:18
kz3	lonix : yes	08:19
lonix	kz3: good then it will work niceliy	08:19
YankDownUnder	Voting, NO ONE sleeps in NYC mate...you must be from Jersey. ;)	08:19
shiyang	hi	08:19
nmaxchat	hello. I have a question. First of all, please understand I am NOT a techie and that many technical answers are over my head. I want to know if upgrading from Lucid Lynx 10.04 to 10.11 would solve a number of bugs I get on 10.04. I don't hink I want to upgrade to 11.04 as I read it remains unstable compared to win 7	08:19
Voting	YankDownUnder: well, don't sleep much...	08:19
kz3	lonix : its working nicely	08:20
shiyang	liuxiaoxiang	08:20
Voting	YankDownUnder: but, just in case you guys are not around when it DOES finish...	08:20
lonix	nmaxchat: First of all, there is noe version called 10.11 its 10.10, what bugs are you experiencing	08:20
Voting	what do I do next?	08:20
Lasers	nmaxchat: If you're NOT a techie as you so claim, you might want to stay on 10.04 LTS. Will it solve a number of bugs? Yes -- but is it your bugs? We don't know.	08:20
Voting	llutz_: What do you THINK I will need to do to finish the rest of the work, post creating inodes?	08:21
tyl	thanks guys it looks like its working	08:21
lonix	kz3: good	08:22
llutz_	Voting: just use the drive?	08:22
alazare619	the 10.04 i855 problem is really a nussance its kinda annoying...they really need to do something about i855 intel chip drivers in ubuntu...	08:22
nmaxchat	lonix, First I have not been able to print recently w/my HP 1018. Then When I log in, after the log in screen I get a window: A program is still running Power manager and my mouse does not work. Thirdly, half the time my shutdown button is greyed out.	08:22
Voting	llutz_: Oh, that's it? It should auto-mount when I stick it into an ubuntu machine?	08:22
Rouse	how to develop the qt skills ?	08:23
iszak	Does anyone recommend a web based snmp client?	08:23
llutz_	Voting: it should, it might have permission problems as it holds an unix-fs. "sudo chown -R you:you /media/blah" afte rmounting, if you want YOU to have full access	08:23
nmaxchat	Lasers, I had been happy w/ Linux but I still find it lacks some features I want that may be in a more recent version.	08:24
crackerjackz	say i ssh into a another computer.. isn't there a way to get the program to render on my screen instead?	08:25
llutz_	crackerjackz:use ssh -X	08:26
Lasers	nmaxchat: Such as?	08:26
crackerjackz	llutz, ssh -X username@domain?	08:26
llutz_	crackerjackz: right	08:26
Lasers	ssh -Y?	08:26
crackerjackz	llutz, ty :)	08:26
Lasers	nmaxchat: Well -- If you don't mind occasional bugs and glitches, the experiences on 10.04 and 10.10 is pretty similar with several changes. However, 11.04 is the whole different ballpark.	08:27
nmaxchat	Lasers, I did read that it was not super stable	08:28
llutz_	crackerjackz: btw it's user@host not @domain </nitpick> ;)	08:28
Kidlike_	hello	08:28
crackerjackz	llutz, i'll make a mental note of that ty..	08:28
Lasers	nmaxchat: It's up to you. It varies for every person (and their machines!)	08:28
kutumbaba	Where can I find good ol' QDesign Music decoder? Btw the upcoming ubuntu really needs a better player than banshee. Just sayin	08:28
Kidlike_	does anyone here know about kernel messages ?	08:28
nmaxchat	Lasers, I dont like MS, but I need a stable system. My PC is my "wheelchair" fir my ADHD	08:28
kz3	can I uninstall unity from ubuntu 11.04?	08:28
Da\|Mummy	how do i figure out if a usb device ive got plugged in is usb1.1 or usb2?	08:29
llutz_	kz3: just don't use it	08:29
crackerjackz	llutz, can you make any sense of this http://pastebin.com/MczbAEEk	08:29
rww	!classic \| kz3	08:29
ubottu	kz3: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".	08:29
nmaxchat	Lasers, IF I upgrade to 11.04, would it solve my bugs which I posted earlier ?	08:29
Rouse	tell me some c++ channels	08:29
gry2	http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6973850&postcount=4 worked. What is the nature of the problem?	08:30
gry2	Rouse: ##C++	08:30
llutz_	crackerjackz: sudo won't work with ssh -X, use "sux"	08:30
ikonia	Rouse: freenode.net lists channels	08:30
blivori	hi	08:30
gry2	Rouse: /msg alis help list	08:30
llutz_	crackerjackz: not sure, "ssh -Y " as Lasers mentioned, might help in that case	08:31
blivori	Is it possible to make a folder on a server running ubuntu read only? (a user accessing the system cannot copy,move or delete a file)	08:31
gry2	blivori: hi	08:31
gry2	!permissions \| blivori	08:31
ubottu	blivori: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	08:31
Kidlike_	does anyone know a good room for linux administration ?	08:31
ikonia	blivori: sure make it owned by root and set the permissions to read only access	08:31
gry2	Kidlike_, here too	08:31
blivori	gry2: Yes but I only want the users accessing the servers to read-only	08:31
ikonia	Kidlike_: freenode.net - read the channel list	08:31
Voting	llutz_: If it does not auto mount, I can use the mount command I suppose? (mount Always confuses me...)	08:31
Kidlike_	well I could ask here too.. but I think it's a bit hardcore :)	08:32
ikonia	Kidlike_: are you using ubuntu ?	08:32
Kidlike_	no :/	08:32
llutz_	Voting: yes, "sudo mkdir /media/bigdrive && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/bigdrive"	08:32
ikonia	Kidlike_: ok - then it's no place in this channel	08:32
blivori	ubottu: It's an intranet server running ubuntu - Employees need to read PDF files but I need to restrict usage.. as in I don't want them to copy the files to their own PC, delete them or move them but they can read them and open them	08:32
ubottu	blivori: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	08:32
llutz_	Voting: "mkdir" only needed once to create the mountpoint	08:32
blivori	gry2: It's an intranet server running ubuntu - Employees need to read PDF files but I need to restrict usage.. as in I don't want them to copy the files to their own PC, delete them or move them but they can read them and open them	08:33
ikonia	blivori: you can't stop them copying it to their PC as that is read access	08:33
gry2	blivori: Permissions can do that	08:33
blivori	ikonia: Any solution on how to solve the problem then? lol	08:33
blivori	gry2: is there any way in linux on how to do it?	08:33
llutz_	gry2: permissions CAN'T do that	08:33
ikonia	well I'm keen to hear what gry2 solution is	08:33
ikonia	apparntly permissions can do it,	08:34
blivori	gry2: how?	08:34
Voting	llutz_: THANKS!! YankDownUnder: THANKS!!!	08:34
gry2	blivori, I'm just chmod and chown it like you need, the permissions page explains how to do that	08:34
blivori	ok i will give them a look. thanks	08:34
gry2	yw	08:35
ikonia	gry2: how will that stop them copying it to their own PC	08:35
YankDownUnder	Voting, Um...did it work?	08:35
ikonia	blivori: that won't stop them copying it to their own PC	08:35
kz3	can I use metacity themes on ubuntu 11.04?	08:35
gry2	ikonia: it won't, they'd be able to edit the files, adobe pdf technology has ways to make files read only then	08:35
crackerjackz	llutz_, this is with ssh -Y http://pastebin.com/4zCr9qV0	08:35
YankDownUnder	kz3, 11.04 doesn't use Metacity	08:35
blivori	ikonia: I know.. I had already looked into permissions but they can still copy them	08:35
ikonia	blivori: you won't be able to do what you want with raw permissions	08:36
kz3	YankDownUnder : cant I install it?	08:36
YankDownUnder	kz3, Short answer: No.	08:36
blivori	ikonia: any idea on how to do it then?	08:36
ikonia	blivori: gry2 was wrong, hence why he's just quit	08:36
kz3	:(	08:36
rubyy	hey bros, i have installed kubuntu. and on first boot. it crashed (gets held with a black screen) .. it happens before the big K icon is loaded. help ?	08:36
YankDownUnder	kz3, Wait - sorry - you're running "Classic Desktop", right?	08:36
kz3	yes	08:36
wildbat	blivori: when i can read it i can copy it `	08:36
ikonia	blivori: that's really tricky, I'm thinking some group policy on the clients side (assuming the clients are windows) but I honestly don't know	08:36
blivori	ikonia: ok thanks	08:37
blivori	wildbat: I know.. that's why I'm looking for help :P	08:37
YankDownUnder	kz3, Mate, so sorry - yeah, cuz that's Gnome2 - so yes, you can use Metacity themes (put them in your ~/.themes directory)	08:37
kz3	where will i find that directory?	08:37
blivori	ikonia: maybe some kind of linux firewall on the server side could do that? like restrict uploading of files?	08:38
llutz_	crackerjackz: just don't use GUI-stuff :) sux is not a sudo-replacement, its a "su" which sets x-env correct. so you have to "sudo sux" on the remote host	08:38
ikonia	blivori: nah, that's not going to do anything, it will have to be a client side policy/restriction	08:38
YankDownUnder	kz3, It's in your "Home" directory => if you don't see it, you can set Nautilus to see "hidden files and folders"	08:39
YankDownUnder	kz3, ...and if you don't have it, you can create it.	08:39
kutumbaba	Ok I'm leavin. Buhbye all.	08:39
blivori	ikonia: hmmm.. ok thanks	08:39
* rubyy waits for help\		08:39
crackerjackz	llutz, yah but what if i want to use GUI stuff?	08:40
llutz_	crackerjackz: try the second part of my last line	08:40
fabzor3	hello	08:40
fabzor3	i am having trouble with r1q2 in ubuntu	08:41
rubyy	hurrrr..	08:41
fabzor3	it says /dev/dsp cannot restart	08:41
crackerjackz	llutz, run sudo sux from the ssh session or physically go to the host computer and run sudo sux?	08:41
ikonia	rubyy: can you please wait quietly	08:41
llutz_	crackerjackz: from ssh session	08:41
Voting	YankDownUnder: just finished making iNodes!	08:41
YankDownUnder	Voting, Right oh. Go get a bagel and smile.	08:42
crackerjackz	llutz_, i get the same error	08:42
llutz_	crackerjackz: no idea then, sorry	08:42
rubyy	ikonia if you say please. sure	08:42
fabzor3	/dev/dsp: Bad file descriptor	08:42
fabzor3	Could not reset /dev/dsp	08:42
fabzor3	<-- what does this mean?	08:42
crackerjackz	llutz_, does sux have to be on both computers?	08:42
llutz_	crackerjackz: nope	08:42
Voting	YankDownUnder: cut the antisemitic humor :-) and tell me about that "checking to see if the alignment is correct" thing, please? Is that the next thing I should do?	08:43
YankDownUnder	Voting, Wasn't a joke my friend - I've spent heaps time in NYC years ago...heaps...meanwhile, if you run gparted on that drive you should be able to check for errors (if there really are any)	08:44
Voting	YankDownUnder: avoiding wheat myself... brb	08:45
YankDownUnder	Voting, ;)	08:45
fabzor3	yeah palimest is a cool app YankDownUnder	08:45
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fabzor3	or palimsest or whatever its called	08:46
Voting	YankDownUnder: Still don't see "/dev/sdb" in gparted's menu of devices.	08:47
YankDownUnder	Voting, Ok...so the drive has been formatted...and we're sure of that now...so, what you might do is to remove the drive, wait a few seconds, then plug it in and see 1.) does it show up on the desktop and 2.) can gParted see it.....?	08:48
YankDownUnder	fabzor3, Um...is it about the Archimedes "Palimpsest"?	08:53
fabzor3	its the name for the gnome disk tool in the command line	08:53
fabzor3	palimpsest	08:54
Voting	YankDownUnder: it does not seem to automount and no, gparted does not seem to see it. Should I try llutz_ suggstion of creating a mount point and mounting it?	08:54
YankDownUnder	fabzor3, Oh, right oh...thought it was a referral to the document that they've been "de-coding" for years from Archimedes... ;)	08:54
YankDownUnder	Voting, That's always a good go. (Try just creating a dir under /media, and mounting it there)	08:55
JoAnneThrax	Hi, #ubuntuans. I just installed a new ubuntu system on this box, and everything seems smashing except that my computer seems confused about the size of my monitor.	08:55
bobweaver	anyone know hoe to make the desktop widget come back the one that is there right after install on kubunntu 10.10	08:55
JoAnneThrax	Everything displayed is a bit too stretched horizontally/squeezed vertically...	08:55
Nephro	JoAnneThrax, laptop?	08:55
JoAnneThrax	Nephro: Yes.	08:55
Nephro	JoAnneThrax, sandy bridge architecture?	08:55
wolf9s	What is the different between Process and Thread in Linux?	08:55
JoAnneThrax	Nephro: I don't know what that means...	08:56
Nephro	JoAnneThrax, is your laptop very new and carries an intel i5 processor on it?	08:56
YankDownUnder	"Sandy Bridge" is an architecture for graphics on the motherboard.	08:56
JoAnneThrax	Nephro: Not "very" new...it's a year or two old.	08:57
JoAnneThrax	I'm unsure what the processor is...	08:57
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, Have you tried beating it with a stick yet? (Joking) => you might want to check for the proper video driver.	08:58
Nephro	The newest ubuntu is pretty smart I must admit, only this os was capable of identifying and properly running drivers for my sandy bridge, so I think it should work with anything older	08:59
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder: So...how do I go about that?	09:00
soulis77-SE	When I as root creates an user with adduser xxxxx does that user get root priviliges by default?	09:01
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: no	09:01
llutz_	soulis77-SE: no	09:01
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, I'm not happy nor familiar with 11.04, so you might want to look somewhere in the System Settings for "Hardware Drivers" => see if the proper video driver is installed mate.	09:01
soulis77-SE	I have created an acount, I could log on to the account but then I did: PermitRootLogin No in sshd_config and now I can't even access the ssh prompt.	09:02
soulis77-SE	To me that don't seem right.	09:02
Voting	llutz_: was able to mount it, make myself the owner of all the files, etc. now I can create files on this thing. gparted STILL does not seem to see it. No idea of I have allignment problems.	09:03
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder: I'm not using 11.04; I'm using 10.04.2	09:03
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder: Also, I'm not familiar with this "system settings" thing	09:04
m0n	JoAnneThrax, try using Jockey to see if there's proprietary drivers for it. If not you can try using xorg-edgers open source drivers	09:04
llutz_	Voting: "alignment" is just a performance thingy. i don't know gparted, can't ssay why i won't see the drive. i'd just stick with other tools	09:04
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, Awesome. Right. Then click SYSTEM => ADMINISTRATION => ADDITIONAL DRIVERS	09:04
JoAnneThrax	m0n: Jockey?	09:04
m0n	See what YankDownUnder said ;)	09:05
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder: Awesome. Right. I'm not using one of the standard guis.	09:05
m0n	Additional Drivers is jockey.	09:05
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, Roger that.	09:05
rsv	an app checks for ubuntu 10.04. how to make it believe that it is running in 10.04. if my actual installation is 10.10	09:05
JoAnneThrax	...so I'm looking for the usual command-line/editing a file type thing...	09:06
m0n	JoAnneThrax, easier method if you want to run it via cli type in jockey-gtk	09:06
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, (or jockey-text)	09:06
JoAnneThrax	It's very strange; It's never had this problem before in my previous installation, but that was jaunty/karmic	09:06
JoAnneThrax	Okay. Installing that.	09:07
soulis77-SE	So can anyone think of what is wrong? Everything is done with ssh since it is a remote host. I logged in as root. Created a new account, without root priviliges. I tested that account, and I could login. I could do su - and change to root. Then I edited sshd_config and put PermitRootLogin No and did a restart. Now I can't even access the ssh prompt.	09:07
telxt	i got a problem	09:07
YankDownUnder	telxt, We all have problems.	09:07
telxt	my ubuntu is running a sshd	09:08
telxt	but i never started it	09:08
telxt	or configured it	09:08
llutz_	soulis77-SE: sshd runs fine after restarting it?	09:08
llutz_	telxt: sudo apt-get purge openssh-server	09:08
soulis77-SE	llutz: don't know since I can't access server...	09:08
llutz_	soulis77-SE:" nmap -p 22 servers-ip"	09:09
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder and m0n : groovy...it's downloading a driver. I'll let you know if it works... Thanks!	09:09
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, Does that mean you're buying the beer?	09:09
m0n	JoAnneThrax, no worries :)	09:09
JoAnneThrax	YankDownUnder: The virtual beer, sure.	09:09
m0n	if only my problem was that easy to fix! LOL	09:10
* JoAnneThrax doesn't use the legal drugs herself.		09:10
YankDownUnder	JoAnneThrax, Roger that.	09:10
h2kill	hi	09:10
telxt	llutz_ : it vanished thx alot	09:10
YankDownUnder	m0n, hehehhehe...yeah...I need to find out where to bury the body! hehehhehehehehe (nah, me missus is great)	09:10
h2kill	there some chinese?	09:10
JoAnneThrax	I could go for some chinese.	09:10
m0n	YankDownUnder, mate there's plenty of "backyard" just find a spot ;)	09:10
JoAnneThrax	Unfortunately, there're not enough good chinese places in this city...	09:11
YankDownUnder	m0n, ;) I've got a national forest just five minutes from me....hehehehehhee....	09:11
Myrtti	!offtopic \| just a quick reminder	09:11
ubottu	just a quick reminder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	09:11
telxt	llutz_ : any idea how it started? iam 100% sure i never did /etc/init.d/sshd start or something similar	09:11
YankDownUnder	Right. Time for tea. cheerio!	09:11
JoAnneThrax	Myrtti: Sorry :)	09:11
llutz_	telxt: it runs automatically when being installed. no idea what/who pulled it into your system	09:12
szal	!cn \| h2kill	09:12
ubottu	h2kill: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn /join #ubuntu-tw 或 /join #ubuntu-hk	09:12
soulis77-SE	llutz: I only have ssh putty connection. How can I do the nmap -p 22 servers-ip command then?	09:13
h2kill	thanks	09:13
carpenter	hi is there any chanel linuxmint with many users?	09:13
m0n	So, i've been trying to get my bluetooth working on ubuntu 11.04. The bluetooth card is an ath-ar5b95, which is an ar9285 wireless card and a ar3011 bluetooth card in one. Works with xubuntu 11.04 but not ubuntu 11.04. Any one able to help me out?	09:13
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: you must know the ip address of the server if you are connecting to it	09:13
soulis77-SE	yes I know the ip	09:14
wildgoose	!mint > carpenter	09:14
ubottu	carpenter, please see my private message	09:14
soulis77-SE	but I can't access the ssh prompt anylonger since i did the Permitroot...	09:14
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: nmap is to check if the ssh port is even open anymore	09:15
Myrtti	soulis77-SE: do you even get a password prompt when you try to log in?	09:15
groll	What are those extra "partitions" or idk, i can choose them when booting, they appeared when I had to force shut down	09:15
groll	?	09:15
carpenter	i only want a canel link of linuxmint with many users	09:15
carpenter	a chanel	09:15
llutz_	soulis77-SE: i'd "guess" you made a typo in sshd-config and it refuses to start now. try to get rescue-system running and check	09:15
Myrtti	carpenter: ubottu should have gave you a channel name?	09:16
jemadux	i am on lucid and installed thunderbird via ppa ... the latest edition ...and the i18n not working	09:16
wsagent	one of my friend's laptop got stolen ... how can we find out who and where is it using now ?	09:16
JoAnneThrax	When mounting a partition in my /etc/fstab, I've got "/dev/sda4 /mnt/OtherUbuntu ext3 <options> 0 2"...what would be appropriate for the <options> (and is "2" the appropriate <pass> entry)? It's the partition that held/holds my previous linux installation...	09:16
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carpenter	myrtti no people in mint	09:16
Myrtti	carpenter: if there aren't any people active on the channel ubottu gave you, we don't know any other channel to give, sorry	09:17
ikonia	carpenter: there are many people in and active	09:17
wsagent	one of my friend's laptop got stolen ... how can we find out who and where is it using now ?	09:18
ikonia	wsagent: you can't	09:18
Myrtti	wsagent: by default there isn't any way to do that	09:18
llutz_	!ot \| wsagent ask the nsa or whoever. if theres no remote-access service running you can't	09:18
ubottu	wsagent ask the nsa or whoever. if theres no remote-access service running you can't: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	09:18
m0n	JoAnneThrax, i generally tend to us noatime options for most of my fs if it's for home use. This helps reduce load on the hdd, and sometimes can help increase performance on the drive.	09:19
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wamicho	i have configured samba and iam getting errors couldn't find the service	09:20
wamicho	i have configured samba and iam getting errors couldn't find the service what does that mean	09:20
m0n	JoAnneThrax, particularly helpful for increasing speeds with smb sharing and raid arrays used with mdadm, but may not allow you to give info on last time accessed on files	09:21
JoAnneThrax	m0n: Okay...would "defaults" be a good option?	09:21
wsagent	is there any laptop tracking software for ubuntu, to protect my laptop from being stolen	09:21
m0n	JoAnneThrax, sure they would be good enough :)	09:21
tobago	how to find out the names of bots of channel?	09:22
Myrtti	tobago: of this channel or a channel in general?	09:22
tobago	say i wanna know the name of the helping bots of #ubuntu?	09:22
tobago	Myrtti in general	09:22
Myrtti	tobago: there isn't a 100% sure way of finding out	09:22
tobago	Myrtti is there a command i can use?	09:22
Myrtti	tobago: no not really	09:23
JoAnneThrax	Thanks, m0n. Brb.	09:23
Myrtti	tobago: other than asking the operators, and even they may not be aware of the unofficial uncommissioned bots	09:23
tobago	Myrtti o.k. what do you try to find the helpings bots of # when you're new to it?	09:23
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Myrtti	tobago: me? I'm usually, by default annoyed by IRC bots, so I don't bother :-D	09:24
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tobago	Myrtti o.k.	09:27
JoAnneThrax	m0n and YankDownUnder: The new driver worked. Gracias.	09:28
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brahmana	Hi all	09:30
mehmeh2	i'm on lucid, is there any way i could install natty repos? i have tried to replace one line from lucid to natty and i don't get new versions after update	09:30
brahmana	I am trying to cerate a bootable USB drive	09:30
brahmana	I created it by following the steps give here : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download	09:31
telxt	is there a possibility that sshd is installed when i run "apt-get install ssh"?	09:31
brahmana	However when I try to boot from it, I get a message "Boot Error"	09:31
llutz_	telxt: yes, ssh is a meta package to get client+server	09:31
brahmana	This is Lucid 10.04.1 i386 desktop image	09:31
brahmana	What is the problem and how can I rectify that?	09:31
llutz_	telxt: look at "apt-cache depends ssh"	09:31
brahmana	The 2GB USB drive was clean before I started the creation of bootable disk	09:32
ChristianAdamski	Hi, Ubuntu 11.04, Gnome 2x: new Windows opened by applications (new Firefox Windows, or Pidgin Chatwindows etc.) open not-focused, but in front of all other windows. This kind of impractically. Can I modify this behavior?	09:33
telxt	llutz_: k found the bad guy, itse me... thanks again	09:33
mehmeh2	why does my debinstaller crash after i manual try to open a file for a newer ubuntu version? this really sucks	09:33
mehmeh2	wtf's wrong with this system	09:33
mehmeh2	LTS my ass	09:33
llutz_	telxt: could have been worse :)	09:33
Myrtti	mehmeh2: getting stuff from natty to lucid is a Bad Idea™	09:33
mehmeh2	why	09:33
ikonia	Myrtti: control the langauge please	09:33
ikonia	Myrtti: ahhh, sorry	09:34
Myrtti	mehmeh2: you're bound to get stuff broken	09:34
mehmeh2	i need new packages	09:34
ikonia	mehmeh2: control the language please.	09:34
mehmeh2	damnit	09:34
mehmeh2	then i should fucking get back to debian	09:34
mehmeh2	assholes	09:34
FloodBot1	mehmeh2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:34
stddmi1	dionisio	09:35
brahmana	Any suggestions on the bootable USB drive questions?	09:36
ChristianAdamski	brahmana: are you actually sure, that you are booting from the stick?	09:40
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: Yes.	09:40
ChristianAdamski	And you are not using a 64bit version on a 32bit system?	09:41
brahmana	No. it is a i386 image and it is a 32-bit system	09:41
ChristianAdamski	Do you have any other system in reach? Could you try to boot the USB there? Just booting doesn't modify anything, so its safe	09:42
brahmana	Ok, let me try that on another laptop.	09:43
SuperLag	I'm looking at the "Character Map" to find the euro symbol, and I'm not sure where to find it.	09:43
brahmana	Give me a minute. I am recreating the bootable USB drive	09:43
SuperLag	or is there some keyboard shortcut I can use for the euro symbol?	09:43
ChristianAdamski	SuperLag, with a european keyboard layout, try AltGr + E	09:44
ChristianAdamski	€ <- see :)	09:44
SuperLag	ChristianAdamski: I'm using the US layout. How can I do the Euro symbol with my current layout?	09:45
ChristianAdamski	SuperLag: although, with all the stupid things politicians are doing right now, it might not be worth the effort, to learn € now, might be historical soon	09:45
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: lolz...	09:46
ChristianAdamski	SuperLag: no clue, sorry	09:46
tyl	where is phpmyadmin located in ubuntu i did which phpmyadmin but it doesn't show up	09:46
ChristianAdamski	tyl: phpmyadmin should be available cia http://localhost/phpmyadmin	09:46
tyl	no inside the filesystem	09:46
tyl	not from the outside	09:46
ChristianAdamski	tyl: the actual files are somewhere in /usr/ I think	09:47
SuperLag	sudo find / -name phpmyadmin	09:47
sirfilipwork	tyl open /etc/apache/sites-available	09:47
ChristianAdamski	tyl: look through the apache2 config (assuming your using apache) there is a link somewhere	09:47
brahmana	tyl: I believe it would be under the web-server's public folder, no?	09:47
Chakravanti	your computer is a WMD	09:47
SuperLag	haha	09:47
Chakravanti	wcsry	09:47
tyl	nvm found it	09:47
tyl	etc foler	09:47
ChristianAdamski	tyl: FYI: etc/ conatins the config files of phpmyadmin only	09:49
tyl	i actually wanted that i need to change the time out	09:49
JoAnneThrax	Hi...my ubuntu seems to have lost its DNS server...can someone please remind me what to edit (and what to put there) to fix this?	09:50
JoAnneThrax	It happens periodically, on rare occasions. I know not why. Usually I just edit a particular file with an address or two (which I can't remember) for DNS servers that lets me resume browsing and such without rebooting everything...	09:51
llutz_	JoAnneThrax: /etc/resolv.conf but it will be overwritten by dhcp or other processes	09:52
intlkleinblue	Hello everyone, does anyone know a way to sync Google Reader RSS feeds with Evolution's RSS plugin?	09:53
JoAnneThrax	llutz: Groovy...can you suggest an entry?	09:53
llutz_	JoAnneThrax: if you like google, nameserver 8.8.8.8	09:53
soulis77-SE	Ok I now know what is the problem. I have Parallels Power Panel installed and it messes up my changes. Anyone know a url with info of what the parallells messes up? or how to see it? The parallells site is not that good. I use ubuntu 10.04	09:53
susuna77	hi all, I'm looking for a gui application, that can index file names on my filessystem, so I can search for filename faster. I used to use Locate32 on windows, is there something similar for linux ?	09:54
JoAnneThrax	llee: I've no particular love of google, but I'd consider using their nameserver...	09:54
JoAnneThrax	llutz: er...that was at you.	09:55
JoAnneThrax	llutz: any idea why the previously selected nameserver craps out once in a while?	09:55
llutz_	JoAnneThrax: broken dhcp-requests?	09:56
ChristianAdamski	susuna77: If I click on "places", the second option from the bottom is (german for) "Search for files..."	09:57
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: The bootable USB worked on another laptop.	09:58
susuna77	ChristianAdamski: I don't want to search entire filesystem everythime, i have 300k file, it takes ages. I want a proggy to index filenames on filesystem, so i can search faster	09:58
JoAnneThrax	llutz: I suppose that's possible...	09:58
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: The one on which I get "Boot Error" is a pretty old one. How do I figure out what is causing it?	09:58
ChristianAdamski	susuna77: I think the programm you are looking for is called "tracker"	09:59
Drake\|	hey I have some problems getting flash player to work. running ubuntu 11.04	10:00
Drake\|	doesnt work in eighter ff or chrome	10:00
ChristianAdamski	brahmana: Could you try booting from a CD-R? Just to see if that is crashing too? Just "boot error" is not that helpful	10:00
susuna77	ChristianAdamski: thanks, checking out	10:00
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: I have an old Ubuntu CD which boots up fine until the menu for install or live start comes. After that it fails with kernel panic (blinking caps-lock)	10:01
aum	how can i install ubuntu in usb flash device,	10:02
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: The scenario is that, the machine was dual boot with XP and Ubuntu. I accidentally deleted the Ubuntu partition and now grub in the MBR does not know what to boot and throws me in the rescue shell.	10:02
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: Since the live is CD is not good (Disck Check shows some 21 errors) I am trying the USB approach.	10:03
brahmana	aum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Installing%20Ubuntu%20directly%20on%20a%20USB%20flash%20drive	10:04
ChristianAdamski	brahmana: did you try to install ubuntu from Windows? I'm a little bit lost here, but doens't Ubuntu somehow support that? Could you try to boot up WinXP and insert the latest Ubuntu disc and see what it offers?	10:04
ChristianAdamski	Drake\|: 64bit Ubuntu?	10:04
brahmana	ChristianAdamski: Problem is I am unable to boot Windows either. The moment I turn on my computer grub loads and throws me in a rescue shell.. !!	10:05
HektoR	Hello guys. I'm usingi ubuntu 11.04. i've added second monitor to my PC and i want to make them separated. i have nvidia video card and using this config http://paste.ubuntu.com/646368/ but after i log in to system, window manager doesn't start. can anyone help me ?	10:05
philluminati	what's aptitudes version of "provides" as in, what packages provides a given executable please?	10:06
ChristianAdamski	Drake\|: there is a 64bit Beta of Flash out for just a few days. You can download that and put it to ~/.mozilla/plugins	10:06
SuperLag	Do any of you use Fastmail for hosting your email?	10:06
Drake\|	ChristianAdamski: ty I will try that	10:06
SwedeMike	ChristianAdamski: it's not even beta, it's actually a real release: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer.html	10:06
ChristianAdamski	brahmana: Sorry, no clue, maybe "I think he's dead, Jim!" :-)	10:07
brahmana	:)	10:08
groll	What are those extra "partitions" or idk, i can choose them when booting, they appeared when I had to force shut down ?	10:08
saikat	hi , can anybody tell me how to configure samba in Ubuntu 11.04 ?	10:09
philluminati	I want to uninstall /bin/plymouth-upstart-bridge. how do I do this please?	10:09
samba_	saikat, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba	10:10
Myrtti	groll: can you describe what you are seeing?	10:10
Myrtti	groll: are you in grub? seeing different options that say 2.6.xx and some say (rescue mode)?	10:10
philluminati	What the f*** does this even mean? http://pastebin.com/psjzPC9F	10:12
ikonia	philluminati: control the language please.	10:12
ikonia	philluminati: if you have to star it out, don't use it	10:12
oscar	i need help with my wireless card can someone point me in the right direction?	10:15
Drake\|	ChristianAdamski: I finally got it to work. Installed flash plugin trough Synaptic. I have tried that "beta" before with no luck.	10:15
kz3	can anyone help me to copy songs into my ipod touch 4G	10:16
ChristianAdamski	Drake\|: consider yourself a lvl-2 Ubuntu crack now :)	10:16
Drake\|	wooop woop	10:16
tiresias	hello all	10:17
Drake\|	well i have used synaptic before.. just forgot it after software center came	10:17
kz3	can anyone help me to copy songs into my ipod touch 4G	10:17
tiresias	i'd like to mount my hard disk when using the live cd	10:17
szal	!repeat \| kz3	10:18
ubottu	kz3: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	10:18
Drake\|	tiresias: well its not that hard. open terminal and do a "sudo fdisk -l" and you should get a list of disks connected to your susten	10:18
Drake\|	tiresias: or have u checked if it shows up in the file explorer?	10:19
tiresias	Drake\|, arf, i was using cat /etc/fstab but the dd doesn't appear thx ;)	10:19
Drake\|	no u have to add it to fstab first ;)	10:19
philluminati	does anyone think it's safe to just delete plymouth-upstart-bridge. it hangs on my machine and if it didn't exist...	10:22
wywdstc	..	10:30
CyborgSmurf	Is there any flashprogram for ubuntu?	10:36
a111	the flash player for your browser cy?	10:37
a111	CyborgSmurf,	10:37
CyborgSmurf	a111: I mean where to create flash stuff	10:37
a111	Oh, not that i know of	10:37
Myrtti	CyborgSmurf: no GUI apps, Flex is your best bet	10:38
sirfilipwork	CyborgSmurf: there was a flexbuilder for linux not sure if its live any more	10:38
kkk	Hello world	10:38
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CyborgSmurf	Myrtti: If I dont use it in a GUI, is it straightly command line?	10:39
dyd	when i'm coding in bluefish if i type words with è or à they are shown wrong with strange signs... how can i fix this?	10:39
CyborgSmurf	sirfilipwork: okay, I will check it out	10:39
Myrtti	CyborgSmurf: not commandline, but 'coding' with text editor	10:40
kkk	wow...	10:40
CyborgSmurf	Myrtti: I see... thanks, I will search a bit	10:41
kkk	=sad=	10:41
kkk	ubuntu	10:42
wyll	j #oficina	10:42
ratc	when I zip a directory using the standard uibuntu compres util, and I unzip it again, all permission are changed, and I cannot read the file anymore. THe problem is when i try to set the permission back to normal, it won't work. anybody know why?	10:48
ratc	this happens to directory's only, not to files	10:48
guignant	buenasssss!!!!!!!!!	10:51
guignant	jurujujajuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu	10:51
joseph_	hell	10:52
joseph_	hello	10:52
guignant	hello	10:52
ikonia	guignant: can we help ?	10:52
guignant	oki	10:52
joseph_	no I discover the site	10:52
guignant	i dont speak	10:52
guignant	inglish	10:52
guignant	spanishhhhhh	10:53
ikonia	!es \| guignant	10:53
ubottu	guignant: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.	10:53
joseph_	only spanish ?	10:53
guignant	casii	10:53
joseph_	de donde estas ?	10:53
guignant	soy de buenos aires argentina	10:53
joseph_	ok	10:54
guignant	tu de donde eresss	10:54
joseph_	francia	10:54
guignant	fa!!!!!!!!	10:54
Myrtti	English please	10:54
ikonia	!ar \| guignant	10:54
ubottu	guignant: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe	10:54
guignant	like my surmane	10:54
gurkee	will the update from 11.04 to the next LTS be supported?	10:55
joseph_	have a nice day bye !	10:55
SwedeMike	gurkee: via 11.10, probably.	10:55
Myrtti	gurkee: next version from 11.04 isn't an LTS, so direct update wont be supported	10:55
boairc	hi guys	10:55
SwedeMike	gurkee: it's always been that you can't skip releases when upgrading, unless it's from one LTS to another LTS.	10:55
boairc	anyone knows if it is possible to setup 2 video cards and 3 monitors in Ubuntu 11? NOT with xinerama because that produces huge CPU usage, video artifacts and poor performance.	10:56
gurkee	Myrtti and SwedeMike: so when now changing distributions with the aim of using the next ubuntu desktop LTS.. would you now start using 10.04 LTS?	10:57
SwedeMike	gurkee: why do you want to only use LTS releases?	10:57
Myrtti	gurkee: hard to day without knowing why you've decided to go for 11.04 in the first place if your aim was LTS	10:57
SwedeMike	gurkee: if you want stability and 10.04 LTS works on your HW, I'd go for 10.04 right now, yes.	10:57
monsterwizard	for some reason everything has gotten smaller in pidgin	10:58
gurkee	SwedeMike: we are a scientific working group and I think we do not want to have a major upgrade every few months	10:58
brightsites	How do I do this in ubuntu 'Reconfigure SELinux to allow the httpd process to connect via the port specified by the email server.'?	10:58
gurkee	Myrtti: I did not chose 11.04 so far :) I was just wondering what to implement _now_ with the aim to use the next LTS	10:58
Myrtti	gurkee: then go for 10.04	10:59
DERMANN	gurkee ?	10:59
gurkee	DERMANN, yes? :)	10:59
DERMANN	whats your question :-9	10:59
DERMANN	:-)	10:59
gurkee	DERMANN, sorry? what is not clear to you?	11:00
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DERMANN	i do not read it because i was away	11:00
gurkee	interesting	11:00
DERMANN	whats your problem with ubuntu 11.04 ?	11:00
gurkee	DERMANN: no problem :)	11:00
DERMANN	hehe	11:00
CrazieShtuff	hey folks	11:00
saturn6962	Hi all, can anyone help me with a command to see what wireless drivers I have loaded currently?	11:01
gurkee	Myrtti and SwedeMike: thanks so far.. I am not Ubuntu-experienced so far and we will switch from SLES/D. Are modern Firefox and Thunderbird versions supported in 10.04 and is Acrobat reader (+ browser plugin) and Flash running smoothly?	11:03
psypher246	hello all. Does anyone know what to do when you have tried everything to kill a runaway process? I have tried kill -9 PID I have tried killing it in top, what else can I do?? If I try reboot the server remotely it gets stuck so I am completely lost as to what to do with this remotely accessed server. only way i can fix this is a hard reboot and thats not an option right now? Why does kill -9 not work??	11:04
gurkee	What is the "lucid-updates" repository for?	11:04
SwedeMike	gurkee: personally I install firefox via separate repositories, so I always have the latest one. I don't know about adcrobat reader, but PDF reader is included and is working well, flash I've never had a problem with on 32bit platforms.	11:07
gurkee	SwedeMike, I just tried 11.04 64bit in a VM yesterday and was very pleased that Flash/Acroread were working out-of-the-box in Firefox 5 -- so you think I can have the same experience with 10.04 if I use special repositories?	11:09
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astraljava	gurkee: acroread can be found on partner repo, but not sure on which release. I remember it being there at least on most of them, and is on 11.04, but cannot confirm on lucid, though.	11:09
glebihan	psypher246, if the process is a zombie, there's nothing you can do to kill it except kill its parent (if it's not init...) or reboot	11:09
psypher246	glebihan: crap... thanks	11:09
glebihan	psypher246, you're welcomee	11:10
gurkee	astraljava: and it is no problem to just use e.g. natty's partner repo for 10.04?	11:10
shadyzgeek	i also tried 11.04 on virtual box an d was a bad experience	11:10
KM0201	gurkee: no, you don't want to do that	11:10
astraljava	gurkee: Would advice against that, because of the dependencies.	11:10
glebihan	psypher246, however a zombie should not cause any issue, why do you need to kill it ?	11:11
KM0201	gurkee: there should be a PPA for Firefox 5.0, ten just download the current version of Flash, and put it in Firefox	11:11
gurkee	SwedeMike: from which repo do you install most recent Firefox to 10.04?	11:11
astraljava	gurkee: http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/pool/partner/a/acroread/acroread_9.4-1lucid1_i386.deb	11:11
astraljava	gurkee: So it seems to be there for lucid as well.	11:12
KM0201	gurkee: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/firefox-5-lands-in-firefox-stable-ppa.html that details how to add the firefox PPA, and then install 5.0	11:12
psypher246	glebihan: it's a pyhton process whihc has stopped working, tried top stop and restart but it won't stop or start again. when i run a reboot now the whole server hangs and I have to hard reboot	11:12
lotuspsychje	!ocelot	11:12
ubottu	Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1	11:12
gurkee	KM0201: isn't that way to install Firefox a bit dirty?	11:12
soulis77-SE	Anyone know how to see which files the Parallels Power Panel is using. I'm upgrading my system and modifying files for security reason but the PPP is killing me. I need to know which files that PPP is using to knwo what to be extra careful when modifying. dpkg function anyone?	11:12
glebihan	psypher246, what is the parent process ? is it init ?	11:12
gedO	Hello. Can some one tell what is JAVA 2 SDK path in ubuntu?	11:13
gurkee	astraljava: thanks for pointing me there	11:13
KM0201	gurkee: why on earth would it be "dirty" you're adding a stable PPA repository, and installing from there	11:13
KM0201	gurkee: thats how i'm using t-bird 5.0, and i have no problems at all w/ it.	11:13
gedO	Guys, does anybody knows what path is to JAVA 2 SDK in ubuntu?	11:14
KM0201	gurkee: if you were using a testing PPA, or a daily build PPA, then i might agree w/ you, but that repository only gets updated by mozilla upon stable release.	11:14
gurkee	KM020: I was just asking :-) PPA is something like user-contributed, or am I wrong?	11:14
gedO	where I can find that JAVA 2 SDK	11:14
gurkee	KM0201, ah.. I see :)	11:14
KM0201	gurkee: it is, but that one is supported by the mozilla team, it's safe.	11:14
SwedeMike	gurkee: don't know off the top of my head, I'd have to look it up and then you could do it too.	11:14
gurkee	KM0201, where do I get a good overview about the meanings of the repos like updates, backports, partner, PPA, ...?	11:15
KM0201	!repositories	11:15
ubottu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories	11:15
shadyzgeek	can anybody explain to me why ma wireless keep on hanging in ubuntu	11:15
soulis77-SE	ged0: use the following: http://drnikki.org/node/6	11:15
gurkee	thanks :)	11:15
arunkumar413	hi, i have an dvd which contains ubuntu 11.04(live) and some other ISOs. I want to make the ISO of the Ubuntu 11.04 and use it as a repository.	11:15
KM0201	shadyzgeek: whats your wireless device?	11:16
gurkee	and one last question, although google would be fine for that, too -- I think: Is KDE 4.x avaiable and stable for 10.04?	11:16
shadyzgeek	it is an Atheros 9285	11:16
KM0201	shadyzgeek: weird, i've got that atheros device and it works flawlessly (on it now actually)	11:17
MonkeyMan	hello!	11:17
KM0201	gurkee: now that, i do't know about... don't use KDE... but i dont recall ever seeing a repo for 10.04 and kde4	11:18
psypher246	glebihan: yes it is init	11:18
glebihan	psypher246, in that case, I guess you'll have to go for a hard reboot...	11:18
shadyzgeek	o.k	11:18
gurkee	KM0201, :) thanks -- and... aeh :D is Kubuntu + gnome-desktop the same as Ubuntu + ubuntu-desktop?	11:18
gurkee	ah	11:19
KM0201	no	11:19
shadyzgeek	use Kde but still not helping	11:19
psypher246	glebihan: ok, darn, if this keeps up I have to consider a pdu to do remote reboots	11:19
gurkee	screwed the question up	11:19
hammoommah	hello peoples, i just reinstalled ubuntu 11.04 onto my new hd, is there a way to tell it to fetch updates and install my applications off old hard drive rather then re downloading?	11:19
szal	!info kdebase lucid \| gurkee	11:19
KM0201	yeah, you did..lol	11:19
ubottu	gurkee: kdebase (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment, base applications. In component main, is optional. Version 5:55ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB	11:19
arunkumar413	hammoommah: use aptoncd	11:19
SwedeMike	hammoommah: you can look in /var/apt/cache on the old one and see if it has a lot of packages there, if it has, copy them to /var/apt/cache on the new hd	11:19
szal	ah..	11:20
gurkee	Version 5:55?	11:20
szal	!info kdebase-bin lucid \| gurkee	11:20
ubottu	gurkee: kdebase-bin (source: kdebase): core binaries for the KDE 4 base module. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.5-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 290 kB, installed size 1324 kB	11:20
glebihan	psypher246, what is that script btw ? cause the problem probably comes from it	11:20
MonkeyMan	Hi - I am a bit of a newbie to Linux, and was wondering if someone could help me partition my HD	11:20
hammoommah	nice work SwedeMike	11:20
shadyzgeek	who have got the ubuntu livehacking dvd	11:20
vibhav	me	11:20
KM0201	shadyzgeek: what version of ubuntu are you using?	11:20
vibhav	shadyzgeek, Me	11:20
KM0201	MonkeyMan: i will... want a PM?	11:21
MonkeyMan	sure, thanks	11:21
psypher246	glebihan: phoenix miner. it's a bitcoin miner, not sure if you have heard of it	11:21
psypher246	glebihan: guess i will log it with them as a bug as well	11:21
shadyzgeek	vibhav do u really like it	11:21
glebihan	psypher246, yep probably a good idea	11:21
vibhav	shadyzgeek, worth the money	11:22
szal	"Live Hacking DVD is a new Linux distribution packed with tools and utilities for ethical hacking, penetration testing and countermeasure verification." <- iow, Live Hacking != *buntu	11:22
oj_	Hi, I recently switched back to Ubuntu Classic on 11.04 and my desktop icons are not visible and I can't right click or left click with my mouse, what can I do?	11:22
shadyzgeek	hahaha	11:22
jrib	oj_: nautilus is responsible for those things. Try to figure out why it won't start	11:22
shadyzgeek	but ma wireless is not working in that	11:22
vibhav	I meant the book was worth the money	11:22
sourav	hello all, the window/file explorer (DOLPHIN) in my kubuntu box has crasher..., when I login, I am getting the termional, how can I restore it?	11:23
oj_	jrib nautilus is working, because I can start any application and use my mouse within any active application window, and the panel, and the menus...it's just the desktop	11:23
jrib	oj_: run nautilus in a terminal	11:23
szal	sourav: (1) don't crosspost to multiple channels; (2) how about just restarting Dolphin?	11:24
f3bruary	sourav: try reinstalling dolphin	11:24
oj_	jrib: it opened up my home folder.	11:24
jrib	oj_: right click on your desktop	11:24
oj_	jrib nothing's happening	11:24
sourav	szal: how can I restart dolphin?	11:24
jrib	oj_: check gconf preferences to see if nautilus is set to show_desktop	11:25
szal	sourav: lol.. click on menu entry (or quicklaunch icon, if you have one)?	11:25
sourav	I am not even getting the menu entry!!	11:25
sourav	szal:	11:26
sourav	^	11:26
oj_	jrib ahh..thanks... I wonder why it didn't activate it before	11:26
lisak	could please anybody help me out? colleague of mine made a typo during installation regarding hostname	11:27
aum	is there any other way to install ubuntu on flash usb drive without using virtualbox ?	11:27
jrib	!hostanem \| lisak	11:27
jrib	!hostname \| lisak	11:27
ubottu	lisak: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.	11:27
szal	!hostname \| lisak	11:27
lisak	if I grep through etc	11:27
lisak	find . -name "*" \| xargs grep	11:27
lisak	there is nowhere	11:27
lisak	I corrected it in /etc/hostname /etc/hosts	11:27
jrib	lisak: and?	11:28
lisak	but I still get exceptions like java.net.UnknownHostException: ehop: ehop	11:28
lisak	instead of eshop	11:28
lisak	when running applications	11:28
jrib	lisak: have you rebooted? Or used the hostname command as ubottu suggests?	11:28
shadyzgeek	anyone with an idea how i can change from spanish in ubuntu language to english	11:29
aum	i could not follow the instructions of the virtualbox in the given link http://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/	11:29
shadyzgeek	KM201 ANY IDEA	11:30
szal	!caps \| shadyzgeek	11:30
ubottu	shadyzgeek: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	11:30
lisak	jrib, right, my fault .. thanks	11:31
lisak	I was used to not have to	11:31
Terminus	hello. does anybody know of a pdf viewer that can span multiple screens? i'm trying to get it running on kde in lucid.	11:31
lisak	in other distros	11:31
shadyzgeek	OR vibhav any idea	11:31
lisak	it was obtained from the file	11:31
lisak	not via hostname tool	11:31
Terminus	i've tried evince, okular and xpdf. none of them seem to support spanning multiple monitors.	11:31
Ool	Hi, everybody, I'm looking for informations about the system account backup(34:34) to know if it's a good idea (or not) tu use it for backuppc client via SSH (rsync)	11:32
shadyzgeek	of how i can change back to english	11:32
jrib	Terminus: seems more like a window manager issue tbh	11:32
shadyzgeek	y dont u google it out lisak	11:32
Guest41248	hello	11:32
szal	!google \| shadyzgeek	11:33
ubottu	shadyzgeek: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.	11:33
Guest41248	ПИДОРЫ ВЫ ВСЕ	11:33
Terminus	jrib: hmmm... i've tried disabling all the checkboxes in the display configuration and it still snaps to just a single monitor on full screen.	11:33
szal	!caps \| Guest41248	11:33
ubottu	Guest41248: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	11:33
szal	!ru \| Guest41248	11:33
ubottu	Guest41248: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke	11:33
groll	ʘ‿ʘ	11:33
Terminus	jrib: what i'm looking for is presentation mode in a pdf viewer spanning two monitors to be specific.	11:34
aum	i could not follow the instructions of the virtualbox in the given link http://mintarticles.com/read/operating-systems-articles/how-to-install-portable-linux-ubuntu-on-a-bootable-usb-flash-drive-from-sun-virtualbox,13641/	11:34
aum	is there any other way to install it...	11:34
Terminus	jrib: nevermind. found one. thanks though. =)	11:37
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newb	When I compile a c program in codeblocks it works fine but when I do it in the terminal is doesnt, why?	11:42
Sp4rKy	missing libraries ?	11:42
rubyy	while i fsck sda6 . i t says bad magic number in super block while trying to re open . aborting journal on device sda6-8. mapped to illega pblock. abortin journal on dev.	11:43
terxx1	test_msg	11:43
newb	Sp4rKy, ye but why would it work in codeblocks then	11:43
shadyzgeek	sorry lisak	11:43
shadyzgeek	thanks ubottu	11:43
rubyy	terxx1 ?	11:44
[skl-]	Comment fait on pour voire les pseudos des gens qui sont sur le chan ?	11:44
groll	lmfao is he kidding me	11:45
groll	already on chatroulette, the only country where they all speak in their language rather than english is france, even here now :p	11:45
[skl-]	thought that i was @ ubuntu-fr	11:46
[skl-]	sorr y;p	11:46
groll	:p	11:46
groll	then nevermind lol	11:46
gribouille	hi	11:47
arunkumar413	i'm not able to access the contents of fedora 15 from ubuntu 11.04. when i tried with the sudo it says authentication failure	11:47
gribouille	ubuntu screwed my X configuration. now, the 1280x1024 screen resolution isn't available any more	11:48
ChrisA[1]	how do people quickly open the home directory in Nautilus - similar to hitting 'Start-E' in Windows?	11:48
odium	I have a working installation but no boot directory, is there a apt-get install something to get a 64 bit kernel	11:48
ChrisA[1]	I tried setting up a shortcut similar to this, but it doesn;t seem reliable, and is quite slow when it works..	11:48
grigori	sometimes my network driver goes down and ubuntu cannot find any wireless network and i should re-install ubuntu to fix the problem. is there any better solution?	11:51
soulis77-SE	I have the following error when rebooting ufw: WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/. I found a google help that only said that I should delete fhe file???	11:51
arunkumar413	i'm not able to access some folders of the fedora 15 from ubuntu 11.04.plz help me	11:51
arunkumar413	http://pastebin.com/xxp03hf3	11:52
grigori	sometimes my network driver goes down and ubuntu cannot find any wireless network and i should re-install ubuntu to fix the problem. how to solve it?	11:53
eagleserver	arunkumar413, you will have to mount them	11:55
shadyzgeek	i agree with u grigori	11:55
arunkumar413	eagleserver: its mounted	11:56
gribouille	ubuntu screwed my X configuration. now, the 1280x1024 screen resolution isn't available any more	11:56
eagleserver	arunkumar413: whats the error you are getting?	11:57
arunkumar413	arun@arun-desktop:/media/4d50e4a3-eacc-4488-894c-6ec0253fc621/home$ cd arun	11:57
arunkumar413	bash: cd: arun: Permission denied	11:57
arunkumar413	arun@arun-desktop:/media/4d50e4a3-eacc-4488-894c-6ec0253fc621/home$	11:57
eagleserver	arunkumar413: sounds like a permissions error then :)	11:58
eagleserver	did you mount it with sudo?	11:59
arunkumar413	eagleserver: no, mounted it by clicking in the places	11:59
ambro718	Hi. Is there an easy way to install and run a 64-bit kernel on a 32-bit Ubuntu install?	11:59
eagleserver	arunkumar413: hmmm, try sudo cd to the folder?	12:00
breaker313	moin: ich möchte das User die per SFTP (auch gechrootete User!) auf einen Server zugreifen, Dateien mit umask 0002 ablegen bzw. auch solche Ordner anlegen	12:00
iceroot	ambro718: reinstall	12:00
breaker313	Hat da jemand einen Tipp?	12:00
iceroot	!de \| breaker313	12:00
ubottu	breaker313: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!	12:00
sipior	ambro718: sure. you can roll your own kernel, or just grab the 64-bit kernel package.	12:00
groll	Question : http://i54.tinypic.com/rvaccp.jpg	12:00
breaker313	sorry	12:00
arunkumar413	eagleserver: arun@arun-desktop:~$ sudo cd /media/4d50e4a3-eacc-4488-894c-6ec0253fc621/boot/grub	12:01
arunkumar413	[sudo] password for arun:	12:01
arunkumar413	sudo: cd: command not found	12:01
arunkumar413	arun@arun-desktop:~$	12:01
eagleserver	in /mnt/ do an ls - la see if the permissions are the same as the mounts you can access	12:02
Myrtti	groll: those are different versions of the linux kernel, you can choose one and try if they work any better than the one you're using by default (the top one, hilighted), but other than that that is perfectly normal	12:02
groll	!kernel	12:02
ubottu	The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)	12:02
groll	Yeah but I had only one originally	12:03
groll	why did they appear ?	12:03
groll	(i did some suggested security updates and stuff from ubuntu)	12:03
Myrtti	groll: they appear if you've updated your system, security updates	12:03
groll	o i c	12:03
groll	how can i even see the differences?	12:04
groll	and are the differences important ?	12:04
arunkumar413	eagleserver: did ls in /mnt/ but couldn't get anything	12:04
Myrtti	groll: when it comes to different kernel versions, about the only way you personally could see any differences is if some odd hardware starts working. Otherwise they might be security updates, preventing intruders cracking into your system	12:05
groll	hmm and the default one is the most recent, which includes all the latest security updates i did ?	12:06
Myrtti	groll: yup	12:06
wrek-gar	has anyone ever used squirrelmail or configured dovecot for send/receive email?	12:06
groll	mmk mmk thx	12:06
arunkumar413	eagleserver: i tried to do a system recovery when i was in fedora. It did something called relabelling	12:07
gribouille	ubuntu screwed my X configuration. now, the 1280x1024 screen resolution isn't available any more	12:07
eagleserver	arunkumar413: i dont know much about that, it sounds bad though	12:08
eagleserver	arunkumar413: you trying to recover data ? or get it to boot?	12:08
arunkumar413	eagleserver: get it to boot	12:09
eagleserver	arunkumar413: you should be editing your grub then not its	12:09
arunkumar413	eagleserver: ubuntu grub is detecting the fedora, but due to some error i made in menu.lst of fedora i'm unable to boot it	12:10
iceroot	arunkumar413: you can correct your error by editiing the grub-line pressing "e" on that line	12:11
eagleserver	arunkumar413: what he said :)	12:11
arunkumar413	eagleserver: i dont know what he is saying. I just want to replace the menu.lst with backup copy i saved in /home/arun folder of fedora.	12:13
arunkumar413	eagleserver: neither i'm able to edit the menu.lst nor able to access the /home/arun folder of fedora	12:15
p1l0t	!PMA	12:15
kaushal	hi	12:15
kaushal	is there an application to extract text from image available in Ubuntu ?	12:16
eagleserver	arunkumar413: a quick search found this, perhaps its your problem. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/how-can-i-mount-lvm-partition-in-ubuntu-569507/	12:17
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arunkumar413	eagleserver: it's already mounted	12:20
aikInsaan	hey....can someone have a lot at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/165202	12:20
aikInsaan	i am the one suffering from this :(	12:20
Traintop	Hi Folks! What is the easiest way to install a zd1211rw-driver patched for packet injection on an ubuntu 11.04-64-bit-box?	12:21
nmaxchat	Hello. I have a question, simple for U, complicated for me. I downloaded a script which should fix a problem I have. I have no clue how to run it. I suspect pasting the whole thing on a command line is not the way to do it but can't find instructions with Google	12:23
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arunkumar413	eagleserver: getting authenticatin failure after reaching this:arun@arun-desktop:/media/4d50e4a3-eacc-4488-894c-6ec0253fc621/home$ su	12:24
arunkumar413	Password:	12:24
arunkumar413	su: Authentication failure	12:24
arunkumar413	arun@arun-desktop:/media/4d50e4a3-eacc-4488-894c-6ec0253fc621/home$	12:24
Traintop	I tried the tutorial from aircrack-ng but when I do modprobe zd1211rw it exits with: "FATAL: Error inserting zd1211rw (/lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/zd1211rw/zd1211rw.ko): Invalid module format" :-(	12:24
Myrtti	arunkumar413: su isn't supposed to work in ubuntu anyway	12:24
raph_ael	hi i disabled network-manager to start at boot, though it comes again, where should it be tweaked ?	12:25
Traintop	although I downloaded the linux-source-2.6.38-package via synaptic	12:25
Myrtti	nmaxchat: running scripts that you do not know what they do can be dangerous...	12:25
Traintop	nmaxchat: try "sudo chmod ugo+c <script-file-name>	12:25
Traintop	nmaxchat: or even better without sudo	12:26
Traintop	nmaxchat: s/ugo+c/ugo+x/	12:26
arunkumar413	Myrtti: then why did it ask for password	12:26
* p1l0t		12:26
nmaxchat	Traintop, Let me take it one step backward. I found this which seems to address my printer problem but dont know where to download http://ptspts.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-to-fix-hp-laserjet-1018-on-ubuntu.html	12:28
aikInsaan	hey....can someone have a lot at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/165202	12:28
Pici	!root \| arunkumar413	12:28
ubottu	arunkumar413: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	12:28
raph_ael	hmm network-manager is not present in /etc/rc*, what could make it start at boot ?	12:29
trackerx90	hi	12:29
trackerx90	everybody	12:30
arunkumar413	eagleserver: how to change the permissions of it then	12:30
Traintop	nmaxchat: in a terminal go to the place where you downloaded the script and do: chmod u+x fix.....sh	12:31
Traintop	nmaxchat: then you can easily do: ./fix....sh and it will execute	12:31
trackerx90	i have ever seen cpu monitor bar in someone video	12:31
nmaxchat	Traintop, OK, Gottya	12:31
trackerx90	i have installed ubuntu 10.04	12:31
trackerx90	how to find the best one for me	12:31
KM0201	trackerx90: a cpu monitor?.. there's system monitor, thats a panel applet, it's pretty easy.	12:32
KM0201	but it's pretty "bare"	12:33
KM0201	beyond that, you're probably wanting to look at gdesklets	12:33
KM0201	!gdesklets	12:33
ubottu	gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/	12:33
trackerx90	sorry for noob question	12:33
[THC]AcidRain	.	12:33
Traintop	ok, guys,another question: how am I suppodes to recompile kernel-modules in ubuntu 11.04? -download package "linux-sources-2.6.38", then apply the patches and "make modules" ?	12:33
trackerx90	how to install it	12:33
trackerx90	thanks	12:33
Traintop	s/suppodes/supposed/	12:33
newb100	I am trying to get the help documentation for vi, whats the command in therminal?	12:34
[THC]AcidRain	i have an external drive, it wont mount. and i have a red light on the front of my computer that flashes every 30 seconds. the drive says DBus unknown error occured	12:34
Traintop	newb100: man vi ?	12:34
[THC]AcidRain	anyone know why these things are happening?	12:34
airton	e ai blz	12:34
sipior	newb100: "man vim", but you're probably best off just trying ":help" inside the editor.	12:34
[THC]AcidRain	the red light started flashing last night	12:34
trackerx90	gu mai roo a i sadd	12:34
sipior	newb100: it's quite comprehensive.	12:34
trackerx90	pong mung tai	12:35
[THC]AcidRain	i did notice last night that both of my external drives were reduced in speed	12:35
blabla	Hi, I'm about to install ubuntu on my PC, currently running win7. Is an ext4 partition okay for ubuntu ?	12:35
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dr_willis	newb100: theres a vitutorial app. not sure about any other tutorial docs	12:35
newb100	if I do :help I get The Vim online help is not installed on this Debian GNU/Linux system.	12:35
newb100	WHY ?	12:35
newb100	Because the "vim-runtime" package containing it is not installed.	12:35
ikonia	blabla: it's fine	12:35
popey	blabla: yes	12:35
airton	e ai algum brasileiro por ai?	12:35
dr_willis	newb100: be sure to install the vim full package	12:35
blabla	ikonia: popey : thanks I shall proceed then :)	12:35
[THC]AcidRain	any ideas?	12:36
dr_willis	newb100: the default vi is vim light	12:36
newb100	dr_willis, thanks	12:36
[THC]AcidRain	Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply.	12:37
[THC]AcidRain	just got this error	12:37
[THC]AcidRain	out of no where	12:37
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[THC]AcidRain	DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)	12:37
[THC]AcidRain	and now this error	12:37
[THC]AcidRain	=(	12:37
[THC]AcidRain	is my entire system crashing?	12:38
[THC]AcidRain	what is going on?	12:38
dr_willis	dbus is confused perhaps	12:38
[THC]AcidRain	what is the relation between dbus and the red light on my comp?	12:39
dr_willis	the error is a bit vague also	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	i know they have something in common	12:39
dr_willis	red light where	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	on my tower	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	it started flashing last night	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	and my external drives started moving very slow	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	now after a restart, 1 of them wont even mount	12:39
dr_willis	check dmesg output for errors	12:39
[THC]AcidRain	in log?	12:40
dr_willis	hd failure , hw issues perhaps	12:40
[THC]AcidRain	wow seriously?	12:40
[THC]AcidRain	i just bought this drive	12:40
dr_willis	run 'dmesg' command - look for info	12:40
dr_willis	mount it by hand. look for error messages	12:40
eagleserver	arunkumar413: if you are still around chmod	12:41
[THC]AcidRain	727.100541] usb 2-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2	12:41
airton	algum brasileiro por ai?	12:41
[THC]AcidRain	[ 838.046332] EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended	12:41
tobago	how to make instantbird popup the message, when received?	12:42
newb100	Whats the command line to convert chm to pdf?	12:42
Myrtti	!br > airton	12:42
ubottu	airton, please see my private message	12:42
[THC]AcidRain	[ 289.599406] JBD: recovery failed	12:42
dr_willis	!find chm2pdf	12:43
ubottu	Found: chm2pdf	12:43
Scuttle	Sometimes when I reboot my server there is a prompt telling me one of the disks is "missing", asking me if i want to continue. Is there a way to disable this? Makes it impossible to reboot remotely	12:43
dr_willis	!info chm2pdf	12:43
ubottu	chm2pdf (source: chm2pdf): A Python script that converts CHM files into PDF files. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1.1ubuntu4 (natty), package size 20 kB, installed size 136 kB	12:43
[THC]AcidRain	[ 289.483306] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK	12:43
[THC]AcidRain	what do these errors mean?	12:43
[THC]AcidRain	there are so many	12:43
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: not all of them are errors	12:44
ng_	ok means okay	12:44
ng_	i guess	12:44
ng_	;)	12:44
airton	id	12:44
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dr_willis	time to fsck the filesystems also	12:44
cutiyar	how to create toorent file from download link?	12:44
ng_	+ } else if (ioc->bus_type == FC) {	12:45
ng_	+ /*	12:45
ng_	+ * The FC IOC may kill a request for variety of	12:45
ng_	+ * reasons, some of which may be recovered by a	12:45
ng_	+ * retry, some which are unlikely to be	12:45
FloodBot1	ng_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:45
[THC]AcidRain	http://paste.ubuntu.com/646474/	12:46
[THC]AcidRain	can anyone tell me why my drive wont mount?	12:46
[THC]AcidRain	if this external drive has failed...	12:47
dr_willis	what filesystem is it [THC]AcidRain	12:47
[THC]AcidRain	ext3	12:47
[THC]AcidRain	i had to format the drive myself	12:47
[THC]AcidRain	but that was months ago	12:47
dr_willis	i would fsck it first. and try mounting it again	12:47
[THC]AcidRain	ive had it for about... 3 months	12:47
aikInsaan	anyone had a chance to look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/165202?	12:48
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: turn the computer off, put the drive away and try again in a couple of hours	12:48
dr_willis	;]	12:48
Myrtti	(you can use the computer, but don't try to put the harddrive on it)	12:48
[THC]AcidRain	wtf	12:48
tobago	Myrtti but you use bot as well (!br)	12:48
ikonia	[THC]AcidRain: control the language please.	12:48
[THC]AcidRain	WARNING!!! Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause	12:48
[THC]AcidRain	SEVERE filesystem damage.	12:48
sipior	[THC]AcidRain: well, that's certainly true.	12:49
dr_willis	so it is mounted, somewhere	12:49
dr_willis	use mount command to see where	12:49
[THC]AcidRain	.... it just mounted out of no where :/	12:49
[THC]AcidRain	i didnt even do anything	12:49
sipior	[THC]AcidRain: the dmesg excerpt says that it is mounted, if you look closely.	12:50
Myrtti	tobago: "usually, by default"	12:50
dr_willis	i would double check cables and so forth	12:50
=== Rei`ZzZz is now known as Reikoku
Myrtti	tobago: there are exceptions :->	12:50
[THC]AcidRain	yeah. after a reboot, i had unplugged both of the drives, and only 1 was detected	12:50
[THC]AcidRain	now both are working fine	12:50
[THC]AcidRain	the red light appears to be gone	12:50
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: now is the time of making backups... ;-)	12:50
dr_willis	problem fixed.. heres your bill.... ;^)	12:50
tobago	how to let instantbird popup new messages like pidgin does?	12:51
[THC]AcidRain	Myrtti: i have like 1.5 TB of backups to make	12:51
[THC]AcidRain	i need another external drive	12:51
lotuspsychje	lol	12:51
dr_willis	just 1.5? ;) i bought a 3tb for backups and its now 98%full	12:51
dr_willis	3 tb over usb = lot of time to backup	12:52
[THC]AcidRain	lol. well 1.5TB is alot considering i have 1 working 250GB external, and 1 internal 80GB	12:52
[THC]AcidRain	:/	12:52
welshlad	hi there guys	12:52
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: I was recently in the same situation as you, with an encrypted harddrive giving out I/O errors. After keeping the harddrive on the side for a few days, I got it mounted and quickly rescued what was most important - family photos. I may use the harddrive again after reformat, but I will not trust it again	12:52
[THC]AcidRain	yeah, these issues started occuing last night when i moved all my music and movies over to the drive that is messing up	12:52
Reikoku	I just have a 4TB NAS device in RAID-5	12:53
gaurav_natty	i am Getting problem in ubuntu 11.04 my system is getting very slow	12:53
Reikoku	Moving 3TB over USB would be painful even with rsync	12:53
newb100	Are the C++ standard libraries automatically installed in ubuntu 10.04?	12:53
[THC]AcidRain	Myrtti: so your telling me i need to go to walmart as soon as possible and raise hell?	12:53
welshlad	I just installed linux from cd, i think it is 10.4. Im new to linux and want to know is there any other programs i need to install?	12:53
dr_willis	Reikoku: it took a while. usb3 helped a lot	12:53
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: What's the specification of your system and what do you have open?	12:53
[THC]AcidRain	because once more, i have learned my lesson to NEVER buy electronics from walmart	12:53
Reikoku	dr_willis: I far prefer sending it over network :P	12:54
[THC]AcidRain	they are AGAIN!, at a 100% fail rate with me	12:54
szal	welshlad: there is no such thing as Linux 10.4	12:54
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: what brand is it	12:54
[THC]AcidRain	im not even sure	12:54
Reikoku	I bought a cheap array off a datacentre that was shutting down, dr_willis	12:54
Owner	szal, you on	12:54
welshlad	ubuntu 10.4 i think	12:54
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: not necessarily to raise hell, but make sure you've got backups of the most important things somewhere	12:54
tobago	anybody uses instantbird?	12:54
szal	welshlad: it's either Ubuntu 10.04, or something else ;)	12:54
[THC]AcidRain	its a My Passport	12:54
szal	Owner: obviously ;)	12:54
Myrtti	[THC]AcidRain: after that you can go raise hell.	12:54
welshlad	Szal yes hehe	12:55
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: so it has nothing to do with walmart.. hds are the weakest link these days..	12:55
[THC]AcidRain	dr_willis: so what would you suggest? i need a good hdd that wont fail on me	12:55
Owner	you remember how last night I forgot my username? Well I found it and everytime I type it in it goes to a black screen and bring me back to the login screen	12:55
lotuspsychje	==>likes ssd drives	12:55
dr_willis	buy ones with the best warrenty	12:55
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: Long story short, Ubuntu installs a bunch of stuff that you don't need, if your system can't deal with it all just uninstall the bloatware and install a more resource-friendly desktop/set of apps	12:55
[THC]AcidRain	grrr	12:55
newb100	Are the C++ standard libraries automatically installed in ubuntu 10.04?	12:55
Reikoku	Owner: Can you login as root?	12:55
szal	Reikoku: there is no root login	12:56
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: they can all die.. without warning	12:56
Owner	how do I do that	12:56
szal	Reikoku: at least not by default	12:56
[THC]AcidRain	i didnt buy the warranty on this one. but even at that man.... so what. i just get my money back and a new drive, but lose all my files?	12:56
[THC]AcidRain	this is a horrible sick twisted worled we live in. sick i tell you!	12:56
eagleserver	lotuspsychje: hey did ssd install ok etc no issues ? just out of curiosity	12:56
gaurav_natty	Specification of my system is good daulcore processor 2.4 GHz and 3 gb ram i not oopen anything after booting it take an hour to work properly i removed many thing changed the startup application .	12:56
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: the hd makers warrenty. not one from walmart	12:56
sipior	newb100: should be. if not, install libstdc++6 and libstdc++6-?.?-dev	12:56
Reikoku	Owner: I assume go to a tty, su -, passwd	12:56
Reikoku	Hmm actually	12:56
Reikoku	Can you login to a tty?	12:56
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, Specification of my system is good daulcore processor 2.4 GHz and 3 gb ram i not oopen anything after booting it take an hour to work properly i removed many thing changed the startup application .	12:57
Reikoku	szal: Ahh, been a long time since I used Ubuntu :P	12:57
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: segate has replaced several hds for me	12:57
lotuspsychje	eagleserver: running natty on trancend ssd (slc) without problems and very fast boot	12:57
newb100	sipior, thanks	12:57
[THC]AcidRain	yeah. my 250GB is a segate	12:57
cutiyar	how to create toorent file from download link?	12:57
szal	Reikoku: logging into tty will help him exactly how?	12:57
[THC]AcidRain	i think my next drive is going to be one just like that	12:57
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: Ouch, yeah that spec should run Ubuntu flawlessly	12:57
Owner	it is not letting me login to su	12:57
Reikoku	szal: If he can log in at tty but not X, the issue isn't with login	12:57
[THC]AcidRain	well my drive mounted. but it mounted at Server2__ instead of Server2	12:57
eagleserver	lotuspsychje: yeh im sure its running like a dream with ssd, im getting an upgrade soon going dual ssd (raid) should be nice	12:57
Reikoku	Owner: Press ctrl-alt-f2 and try logging in there with your username & password	12:58
dr_willis	cutiyar: that dosent make sence. but most torrent cients can make a torrent file	12:58
szal	Reikoku: it most probably isn't	12:58
welshlad	so is there any other programs i need to install as i just installed 10.4?	12:58
Owner	I'm in	12:58
lotuspsychje	eagleserver: sounds nice upgrade :p any idea what brand to choose?	12:58
Reikoku	szal: Also if he can login at tty, it means he doesn't have to chroot in to fix the problem	12:58
cutiyar	dr_willis, how to create it	12:58
dr_willis	welshlad: its 10.04 ;)	12:58
szal	welshlad: anything you wish	12:58
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, What Specification do i need	12:58
Reikoku	Owner: So the issue appears to be with your X packages	12:58
[THC]AcidRain	can someone tell me how to change the mount path again?	12:58
dr_willis	cutiyar: check your clients menus and docs	12:58
welshlad	ok 10.04 then hehe?	12:59
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: Yours should run Ubuntu fine, the only things I can think of are a full HDD or faulty RAM	12:59
Owner	is there a way to fix this	12:59
newb100	Im trying to write a simple compute game in c, can anoyone recomend some simple open source to have a look at, I am aiming for a sodoku game	12:59
lotuspsychje	[THC]AcidRain:try installing pysdm and gparted for drive probs	12:59
eagleserver	eagleserver: not yet waiting on the tax return :) then do some research, i know there are big differnces between them, research is a must with it.	12:59
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: it automounted to the label of the drive. it added the _ because the dir was not removed when it last unmounted	12:59
aikInsaan	hey	12:59
Owner	what the, evidently that fixed it	12:59
blackdivine	can anyone help me setup my xorg.conf please???	12:59
aikInsaan	whats the quickest way to undo an update?	12:59
aikInsaan	i updated from 10.10 to 11.04	13:00
aikInsaan	but would like to go back to 10.10 ASAP	13:00
aikInsaan	thanks	13:00
Monotoko	aikInsaan, why?	13:00
dr_willis	aikInsaan: reinstall	13:00
lotuspsychje	lol	13:00
Monotoko	aikInsaan, you can get the classic desktop...	13:00
Reikoku	Oh, what's your graphics card gaurav_natty? Unity can be slow on older graphics chipsets	13:00
Monotoko	if that is the problem	13:00
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, Yeah :( I Am full HDD and Ram is Working Fine	13:00
lotuspsychje	lemme guess u dont like unity :p	13:00
aikInsaan	Monotoko: because of this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/165202	13:00
Reikoku	Owner: What? You can login to X now?	13:00
blackdivine	can anyone help me setup my xorg.conf please???	13:01
szal	gaurav_natty: if your HDD is full, that's probably the issue	13:01
Reikoku	I love unity :P I wish I knew how to port it :<	13:01
szal	!repeat \| blackdivine	13:01
ubottu	blackdivine: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	13:01
welshlad	also it isnt showing my dvd drives	13:01
aikInsaan	Monotoko: i wanted the new desktop but....as you can see i am in a bad bad place	13:01
welshlad	any help please?	13:01
szal	blackdivine: define 'setup xorg.conf'	13:01
Reikoku	blackdivine: ATI or nvidia?	13:01
dr_willis	blackdivine: set it to do what	13:01
eagleserver	aikInsaan: is this your pc?	13:01
aikInsaan	yeah	13:01
Monotoko	aikInsaan, I would download live 11.04 and try to run that	13:01
Monotoko	it could be the update that's borked...using the live version will show you	13:02
eagleserver	aikInsaan: get a different vid driver.	13:02
eagleserver	aikInsaan: may have picked wrong one.	13:02
aikInsaan	eagleserver: how do I get that?	13:02
eagleserver	google search for your vid card?	13:02
Reikoku	aikInsaan: Is the issue only persistant in Unity/X?	13:02
Reikoku	This just looks like your resolution is too low and it's trying to duplicate across	13:02
aikInsaan	Reikoku: it was working fine on 10.10...if that's what you mean?	13:03
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, how i know which graphics card i am using	13:03
welshlad	can anyone help? cant find my dvd drive in a new install of 10.04	13:03
szal	!google \| eagleserver	13:03
ubottu	eagleserver: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.	13:03
Monotoko	aikInsaan, he means if you press ctrl+alt+f1...what is it like, does it take up the full screen?	13:03
Reikoku	aikInsaan: What video card do you have?	13:03
Reikoku	If you don't know, do lspci and look for 'VGA compatible controller'	13:04
szal	gaurav_natty: lspci \| grep -i vga	13:04
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: lspci in a console	13:04
Reikoku	Look for a VGA compatible controller	13:04
Reikoku	or that	13:04
eagleserver	aikInsaan: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Embedded+Components+and+Flash+Memory&ProductLine=Embedded+Chipsets&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+845+Chipset+Family i think	13:05
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)	13:05
eagleserver	aikInsaan: pick linux obviously	13:05
aikInsaan	Monotoko: ctrl+alt+f1 is still the same	13:05
[THC]AcidRain	see, that red light goes crazy when i try to move files around on that drive	13:05
szal	gaurav_natty: nothing you can do about it; Intel gfx drivers are in the kernel	13:05
[THC]AcidRain	im scared	13:05
[THC]AcidRain	lol	13:05
rene_	hi there	13:06
raph_ael	hi what could start networkmanager at boot, if it is disabled in upstart ?	13:06
HackerII	[THC]AcidRain back off the thc	13:06
gaurav_natty	szal, my system will work like this	13:06
Traintop	[THC]AcidRain: perhaps this red light indicates harddrive-activity... ;->	13:06
welshlad	can anyone help? cant find my dvd drive in a new install of 10.04. what can i do please as im new to linux	13:06
FaTHeRBaDTouCH	Q: How can I delete .pulse without it coming back three seconds later?	13:06
Reikoku	gaurav_natty: Only thing I can think of is the desktop doesn't like the Intel onboard graphics	13:06
Monotoko	aikInsaan..hmm..sounds like more then X then, I would try to download 11.04 and run it from the disk, see if that is any better#	13:06
[THC]AcidRain	Traintop: if that was true, why wouldnt it do it on my other ddrive?	13:06
aikInsaan	Reikoku: i have intel 845gl	13:07
[THC]AcidRain	besides, its moving at max of 5.8mb/sec right now...	13:07
Monotoko	*than	13:07
rene_	i've some trouble booting my system. i've switched my hd controllermode from ide to ahci	13:07
[THC]AcidRain	when it should be moving around 30mb/sec	13:07
Reikoku	aikInsaan: Do xrandr -q and put the output on http://www.paste2.org	13:07
aikInsaan	Monotoko: yeah, i think i'll give it a go now	13:07
Traintop	[THC]AcidRain: just guessing... :-)	13:07
rene_	at boot the system hangs even if i plug in a usb stick.	13:07
Reikoku	rene_: The last time I had that issue it seemed to be because I was using a bad motherboard	13:08
rene_	i think the place in dmesg is between..	13:08
rene_	[ 16.800584] usb 1-5.2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5	13:08
G00053	well hello rainy monday	13:08
rene_	and the next line [ 27.828002] Adding 9936164k swap on /dev/sdc5. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:9936164k	13:08
gaurav_natty	Reikoku, thanks	13:08
welshlad	can anyone help? cant find my dvd drive in a new install of 10.04	13:09
lotuspsychje	welshlad: did you try a dvd disc?	13:09
rene_	Reikoku i can't say that the board is bad	13:09
Reikoku	rene_: I don't mean faulty	13:10
blackdivine	szal, Reikoku, dr_willis: I updated to 11.04, and it gives me very low resolution, I have builtin card, Intel DH55PJ	13:10
dtcrshr	where do i see computer information via gnome? ( need the computer host name)	13:10
[THC]AcidRain	wow. when i unplug this drive the red light goes away. im about ot quit at life	13:10
Reikoku	rene_: I mean I bought an ASRock motherboard	13:10
danusia	hello	13:10
[THC]AcidRain	i swear imma merc everyone in walmart	13:10
danusia	I have a problem	13:10
Reikoku	blackdivine: Try xrandr -q	13:10
rene_	Reikoku: i understud you before	13:10
danusia	plese help	13:10
dr_willis	!ask	13:10
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	13:10
Reikoku	[THC]AcidRain: The red light is probably disk indicated	13:10
tobago	how to let instantbird popup new messages like pidgin does?	13:10
Reikoku	danusia: Might be able to help but I need to know what the problem is	13:10
Monotoko	rene_...I've had a similar issue before, switch it off at the plug, open up the case and take the battery out of the mobo	13:10
blackdivine	Reikoku, Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192	13:11
blackdivine	VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm	13:11
blackdivine	1024x768 60.0*	13:11
blackdivine	800x600 60.3 56.2	13:11
blackdivine	848x480 60.0	13:11
blackdivine	640x480 59.9	13:11
FloodBot1	blackdivine: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:11
welshlad	Yes i put a dvd disc in and nothing	13:11
danusia	after hibernation my cursor disappears!	13:11
danusia	after hibernation my cursor disappears!	13:11
szal	!repeat \| danusia	13:11
ubottu	danusia: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/	13:11
rene_	Monotoko: take the batery out of mobo ? What should thad do?	13:11
blackdivine	Reikoku, http://paste.ubuntu.com/646492/	13:11
Monotoko	rene_, it will reset your motherboard, time, settings everything	13:12
danusia	will u help me?	13:12
Reikoku	blackdivine: What's your normal resolution?	13:12
aikInsaan	Reikoku: here's the output from xrandr -q: paste2.org/p/1526571	13:12
Reikoku	Also can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf	13:12
rene_	Monotoko: and what has it to do with the hang on boot?	13:12
danusia	after hibernation my cursor disappears!	13:12
blackdivine	Reikoku, you mean optimal? its 1360 x 768	13:12
root____	hi	13:13
Reikoku	aikInsaan: Looks like your xorg.conf is set up wrong	13:13
blackdivine	root____, hello	13:13
Reikoku	blackdivine: OK, what video driver are you using? intel or vesa?	13:13
Owner	szal,	13:13
danusia	after hibernation my cursor disappears!	13:13
Reikoku	danusia: Stop spamming :P	13:13
danusia	please help	13:14
blackdivine	Reikoku, I didn't mess up with defaults, I'm not sure. I guess Intel, how to check?	13:14
Monotoko	danusia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/552058	13:14
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 552058 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[915GM] Mouse cursor disappears when laptop lid closed" [Undecided,Confirmed]	13:14
gerzel	Does anyone have the right deb lines for the Virtualbox repos? I've tried adding 'deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian natty contrib' but have been unable to get it to load properly	13:14
Reikoku	I needto register with Ubuntu forums :P	13:14
Reikoku	blackdivine: Look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf	13:14
Reikoku	If you can't read it just pastebin it	13:14
blackdivine	Reikoku, I just want to tell my Xorg to go with the optimal resolution which is 1360 x 768, i tried "sudo Xorg -configure" but it gives some error	13:14
Reikoku	blackdivine: What's the error?	13:15
danusia	don't know how to fix it	13:15
blackdivine	Reikoku, it's not generated. Not there. In recent systems it's nor required, but if you are having problems, you can manually generate it and set resolution in it which you want to use. That's what I am trying to do	13:15
aikInsaan	Reikoku: how do i fix my xorg.conf then?	13:15
blackdivine	Reikoku, to give you exact error i have to stop gdm and try reconfigure again, should i go then? i'll be back	13:16
Reikoku	Do sudo Xorg -configure \|&2> ~/xorglog blackdivine	13:16
aikInsaan	Reikoku: actually, first where is xorg.conf kept?	13:16
Reikoku	aikInsaan: /etc/X11	13:16
Owner	szal, I am wanting my computer to autologin. I am at the login screen settings but it will not allow me to choose myself to autologin, how do I fix this	13:16
Monotoko	danusia...you can try switching to tty: ctrl+alt+f1 then switch back to X: ctrl+alt+f7	13:16
nerd_bloke	https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292203 has been marked as invalid against ppp, which project should it be assigned to for user creation with a usergroup membership?	13:16
ubottu	Ubuntu bug 292203 in ppp (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/pppd has group owner dip, not dialout" [Undecided,Invalid]	13:16
karthick87	How to change the splash image of live ubuntu cd?	13:16
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danusia	every time?	13:17
Reikoku	karthick87: Write a new CD with a new image	13:17
Monotoko	danusia, probably...there are a few problems with hibernation, never use it myself...does it do the same on Standby?	13:17
blackdivine	Reikoku, did it, no output	13:17
karthick87	Reikoku: where i have to place the new image?	13:17
danusia	no, only hibenation	13:18
Reikoku	blackdivine: Yeah pastebin the file at /home/yourusername/xorglog	13:18
danusia	I really likexubuntu, but this is really......	13:18
danusia	strange poblem	13:18
danusia	problem I men	13:18
danusia	mean	13:18
Reikoku	danusia: Hibernation is awkward in general on unix-like OS's :>	13:18
Reikoku	:<*	13:19
Monotoko	danusia, just use standby instead? These days standby doesn't use much power at all	13:19
danusia	ok, thank you for your help. I will be going. Bye!	13:19
Monotoko	Reikoku, seconded...I haven't ever got it to work on my 3 computers >.>	13:19
danusia	oh, really?	13:19
danusia	ok, I will	13:19
Reikoku	Monotoko: It works on my Macbook Pro	13:19
BluesKaj	Hi all	13:20
danusia	wow! You really are an expert!	13:20
Reikoku	But that's the only laptop I've had fully functioning standby on	13:20
Reikoku	And I had to mess with some code to get it to	13:20
danusia	my friend!	13:20
blackdivine	Reikoku, "Server is already active for display 0" I have to stop GDM it will not generate log this way. Wait i'll be back.	13:20
danusia	will you marry me?!	13:20
danusia	I think I love you!	13:20
h00k	!ot \| danusia	13:20
ubottu	danusia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!	13:20
Reikoku	lol danusia I'm not an expert :/	13:20
Monotoko	Reikoku, I need a mac >.>	13:20
danusia	but will you marry me?	13:21
kiichiro	I am wanting my computer to autologin. I am at the login screen settings but it will not allow me to choose myself to autologin, how do I fix this	13:21
Reikoku	Monotoko: You don't, trust me	13:21
[THC]AcidRain	hmmm	13:21
Reikoku	I wouldnt have mine if it weren't for being an iOS developer :P	13:21
[THC]AcidRain	how do i make a drive mount at a certain location everytime?	13:21
danusia	I am 27 years old, have long legs, blond hair and beautiful blue eyes	13:21
karthick87	Reikoku: ??	13:21
h00k	danusia: please keep conversation on topic,please	13:21
Monotoko	Reikoku, I have always wanted to start iOS development...even tried to get a VM going but without much success :P	13:21
Reikoku	karthick87: I write applications for iPhone/iPad so I need the mac environment to compile	13:22
Reikoku	Monotoko: I used to have Xcode 3 working on hackintosh	13:22
danusia	so your answer is....	13:22
[THC]AcidRain	sudo mount /dev/sdg1 /media/Server2	13:22
Reikoku	But 4 flat-out refused	13:22
eagleserver	[THC]AcidRain: make a link	13:22
[THC]AcidRain	i can run this. but on next boot, it mounts at Server2__	13:22
danusia	ok	13:22
Reikoku	danusia: Sorry, I'm married :P	13:22
danusia	I understand	13:22
[THC]AcidRain	ive already made the link	13:22
danusia	Bye!	13:22
Reikoku	Monotoko: Objective C is pretty nice to write	13:23
eagleserver	a link to the mount ponit?	13:23
[THC]AcidRain	eagleserver: yes sir	13:23
[THC]AcidRain	it seems to be creating its own links though	13:23
[THC]AcidRain	i configured this about 2 months ago	13:23
[THC]AcidRain	and im looking at it now in computer:///	13:23
[THC]AcidRain	it creates Server2_ and Server2__	13:23
aiyoraju	hi got a question"""can i have a duel boot os but one as the default i.e untill i press a button during start up os option should not pop up	13:24
[THC]AcidRain	how do i associate the drive with the link?	13:24
Monotoko	aiyoraju, you can...there is an option in GRUB	13:24
Monotoko	aiyoraju, let me see if I can find it...	13:24
Traintop	aiyoraju: monotoko was faster... -d'oh!	13:25
eagleserver	[THC]AcidRain: man link	13:25
Monotoko	aiyoraju: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#/etc/default/grub (file)	13:25
aiyoraju	@monotoko thanks	13:25
Monotoko	Traintop: ;)	13:25
aguitel	what package need to install to add printer ?	13:25
Reikoku	cups usually, but I think its in base	13:26
Traintop	I want to compile a driver which is in the main-kernel; can I only do "make modules" or can I somehow specify to only compile one module or perhapd only all wireless-modules?	13:26
Traintop	s/perhapd/perhaps/	13:26
roasted	in Ubuntu 10.10, if you're running a DHCP server, where's the file at? I'm having a brain fart finding it and dhcpd.conf isn't where it's at.	13:26
Reikoku	Traintop: Is the module already compiled but not inserted, or does it need to be switched on?	13:27
Reikoku	in the kernel?	13:27
blackdivine	Reikoku, For some reason I can't dump output of "Xorg -configure" to a text file with >, but the error is "Number of configured devices is greater than connected devices. Configuration failed..."	13:27
aiyoraju	@monotoko if i install ubunto and windows 7 and want windows 7 to start without input will it work(sorry m new to computers)	13:27
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Monotoko	roasted: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf	13:27
Reikoku	blackdivine: Hmm, I have no idea :S - try #xorg, sorry	13:27
Reikoku	They should be able to help	13:27
Traintop	reikoku: it is not yet compiled... -but I only want zd1211rw to be compiled not all modules; but doind "make modules" takes hours... so can I somehow specify to only compile zd1211rw?	13:28
blackdivine	Reikoku, ok thanks for your help mate :)	13:28
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roasted	Monotoko, ahh I JUST found it. No it's not dhcpd.conf in my case. I'm running an LTSP thin client server, I forgot it's in /etc/ltsp not /etc/dhcp3. thanks though!	13:28
Monotoko	aiyoraju, you will need to make Windows 7 your default (not quite sure how as I don't have a ubuntu computer close at the moment, but you can probably find out) then modify the hidden grub settings	13:28
Reikoku	Traintop: gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -O6 -c module.c	13:28
Reikoku	I believe	13:28
[THC]AcidRain	link: cannot create link `/media/Server2' to `/dev/sdh1': Invalid cross-device link	13:28
Traintop	Reikoku: I assume cd'ing to drivers/net/wireless/zd1211 before and just issuing this command?	13:29
Reikoku	Traintop: But realise that your module may have modular dependencies within the kernel	13:29
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: i think you are confused about what you are doing	13:29
Reikoku	Traintop: Correct	13:29
Traintop	trying...	13:29
[THC]AcidRain	im trying to make this 1 drive mount at the same location everytime	13:29
[THC]AcidRain	i delt with this a while ago. but i forgot	13:29
Monotoko	[THC]AcidRain...you probably want /etc/fstab	13:30
eagleserver	[THC]AcidRain: the link should be /mnt/mountname /otherdrive	13:30
Reikoku	[THC]AcidRain: Look in /etc/fstab	13:30
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: make a fstab entry for it.	13:30
blackdivine	Reikoku, lol there are less than 50 people there :P and all silent	13:30
brahmana	Hi all	13:31
dr_willis	or if its automounting. make sure no dirs with thr same lable name exist in /media/	13:31
brahmana	I burnt a 10.04 iso on to a CD and tried booting it on a fairly old laptop	13:31
Reikoku	blackdivine: Only other thing I can suggest is searching the Ubuntu forum, I can't because I'm not registered :P	13:32
brahmana	It boots until I see the five blinking dots and then after some time the screen just goes blank..	13:32
blackdivine	Hello, I generated a modeline with cvt, can anyone tell me how to insert it to my VGA section in "xrandr"?	13:32
Traintop	Reikoku: your command exits with: "zd_chip.c:28:24: fatal error: linux/slab.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden	13:32
Traintop	compilation terminated."	13:32
brahmana	Nothing comes up even after some 15-20 minutes.	13:32
Monotoko	brahmana, how old is that laptop?	13:32
brahmana	2003 I believe	13:32
Reikoku	Traintop: Sorry, what's that in English?	13:32
Traintop	Reikoku: but build-essentials and linux-headers are installed	13:32
blackdivine	Reikoku, lol you should, and I already have a thread there and searched for 2,3 days. The solution is there, it is to use HDMI cable, but I want it to work on VGA :P	13:32
Traintop	"file or directory not found compilation terminated"	13:32
Reikoku	blackdivine: VGA cable can handle your resolution	13:32
brahmana	Monotoko: I am not entirely sure. It is definitely older than 2006	13:33
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Monotoko	brahmana, it probably won't run Ubuntu 10.04...take a look at xubuntu though	13:33
Monotoko	it is designed for older computers	13:33
Reikoku	Traintop: It seems like it's looking for a dependency	13:33
brahmana	Monotoko: How about 8.04 - hardy heron?	13:33
Reikoku	I suggest either looking for a pre built module or rebuilding the kernel overnight	13:33
blackdivine	Reikoku, It can ofcourse, but the new Ubuntu doesn't do a good job on guessing the optimal resolutions on VGA cable, that;s what i read	13:33
szal	brahmana: 8.04 is dead in the meantime	13:33
Monotoko	brahmana, perhaps..but I believe it is at end-of-life now	13:34
iceroot	blackdivine: lubuntu if you are slow at performance	13:34
dr_willis	!eol	13:34
ubottu	End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades	13:34
szal	brahmana: and on the desktop it has been for 2 years already	13:34
Reikoku	Monotoko: Ubuntu 10.04 should run on a 2003 laptop :S	13:34
Traintop	some few days ago I read a make-command something like make modules SUBDIR=drivers/net/... -but I am not sure and do not find it again... -does this sound familiar to anyone?	13:34
brahmana	szal, Monotoko - End of life should be ok. If I can boot some linux I will be good to go	13:34
acicula	Traintop: its missing an include file, id guess slab.h is part of the linux kernel headers	13:34
[THC]AcidRain	so in fstab i will do...	13:34
[THC]AcidRain	/dev/sdh1 /media/Server2 ext3 defaults,user,rw 0 0	13:35
szal	brahmana: try pressing F6 on CD boot & issuing "edd=on"	13:35
blackdivine	iceroot, LOL no, I have i3 and 4gb ram, just want bigger resolution so lines don't wrap on my VIM :P	13:35
Traintop	acicula: I did this in the extracted kernel-tree... :-)	13:35
Monotoko	Reikoku, not well I suspect... brahmana, you may want to try DSL or some other "small" distribution	13:35
Reikoku	[THC]AcidRain: What's in there now?	13:35
szal	brahmana: (toggle option w/ space bar)	13:35
Reikoku	Also you have to edit it as root (sudo)	13:35
szal	brahmana: and "nomodeset" too, for that matter	13:35
iceroot	blackdivine: ah wrong nick :)	13:35
blackdivine	haha ok :)	13:35
Reikoku	Monotoko: Isn't Ubuntu 10.04 gnome3 based?	13:36
[THC]AcidRain	Reikoku: the link to a non existant floppy drive and. my cd rom	13:36
brahmana	szal: Hang.. let me do that right away before I lose you.. :)	13:36
welshlad	well guys do i stick with 10.04 or get the newer version?	13:36
Monotoko	Reikoku, no it's Gnome2	13:36
[THC]AcidRain	but. my other drive has been mounting in the same location for years now	13:36
Traintop	damn it -I'll wait some time to let make compile all modules... :-(	13:36
blabla	from linux). Do I have to add windows to grub or something ?	13:36
[THC]AcidRain	why is this drive wanting to do what i have not set it to do?	13:36
Reikoku	Monotoko: gnome2 will run on 03 hardware	13:36
brahmana	szal, Monotoko -- fwiw, it did actually boot a 9.10 cd but ended up throwing Bus Error so I couldn't do anything useful.	13:36
Reikoku	I have gnome2 running on 1999 hardware :P	13:36
[THC]AcidRain	cause everyone here had helped me before, showed me a different way to mount the drive	13:36
Monotoko	Reikoku, it all depends...it sounds like 10.04 doesn't know or support his video card	13:37
acicula	Traintop: unless you tell it where to find the include files ti will just lookin in the default include directories. just unpacking kernel source somewhere will not do that. though if you are building a module within the kernel tree itself that shouldnt be an issue	13:37
blabla	Hi. I'm a windows user and installed ubuntu on an ext4 partition. Now grub doesn't see windows at boot anymore. What went wrong ?	13:37
Reikoku	He probably needs the alternate install CD	13:37
Reikoku	The curses-based one	13:37
Reikoku	blabla: Did you delete your Windows partition?	13:37
brahmana	Reikoku: Can I download alternate install CD by http? i.e without torrents?	13:37
blackdivine	blabla, Are you sure you didn't installed Ubuntu over windows partition? because if you didn't grub does a good job on detecting and listing windows so you can boot	13:37
blabla	Reikoku: I can still see the files from dolphin	13:37
[THC]AcidRain	the drive keeps changing its device name	13:38
Monotoko	Reikoku, perhaps...but xubuntu may support it better as it is designed for older computers	13:38
aiyoraju	exit	13:38
Reikoku	brahmana: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.2-alternate-i386.iso	13:38
Reikoku	Monotoko: Yeah he'd probably be better with xubuntu	13:39
Reikoku	But he could just install ubuntu then install xfce	13:39
Traintop	acicula: the error came from a gcc-command for compiling a kernel-module; now I just did "make modules_prepare; make modules"... -it compiles EVERY module now, but it seems I have to wait that long for zd1211rw :-)	13:39
Monotoko	Reikoku, perhaps..but rather than going the long way around, he might as well just install xubuntu? http://www.xubuntu.org/	13:39
[THC]AcidRain	hmmm	13:39
[THC]AcidRain	Reikoku: it appears to be working	13:39
Reikoku	Traintop: Most modules have several dependencies	13:39
blackdivine	blabla, whats dolphin?	13:40
Traintop	Reikoku: which means?	13:40
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Reikoku	Monotoko: I haven't used xubuntu, I don't know its nuances	13:40
[THC]AcidRain	fail	13:40
Reikoku	If it's anything like kubuntu I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft bargepole :P	13:40
blabla	blackdivine: well i defined /dev/sda5 as / and /dev/sda1 as nothing	13:40
Reikoku	Traintop: It means your module can't install without compiling other ones it depends on	13:40
Monotoko	Reikoku, it isn't..I've used it to bring ancient computers back to life a lot :P	13:40
Reikoku	Like when you apt-get something and it gets 30 software packages :P	13:41
blabla	with /sda1 being my windows	13:41
Reikoku	Monotoko: I haven't used LINUX for a while, tbh :P	13:41
Traintop	but doing make modules_prepare should do the trick, shouldn't it?	13:41
arcaos	hello good people, I need if possible some orientation with the sound system on a 11.04 install	13:41
Monotoko	it's a life saver for a quick fix...and it is designed to be light :P	13:41
Reikoku	blabla: Go into a terminal and do fdisk -l /dev/sda	13:41
Reikoku	Monotoko: I have a dual-architecture purpose built rescue USB for Linux which I always carry	13:41
Reikoku	A lot of friends use it :P	13:41
arcaos	haven't found anything I can understand in the forums and am hoping to have a bit more luck here	13:41
szal	Reikoku: if you don't even use Linux, then be the heck quiet about different desktops :P	13:41
Reikoku	I'm mostly on the BSDs now :P	13:42
Reikoku	szal: I use different desktops :P	13:42
Reikoku	I'm running NetBSD on most of my boxes	13:42
Monotoko	szal..I should have just said that in the first place I think :P	13:42
blabla	Reikoku: it says it cannot open the disk	13:42
Reikoku	blabla: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda	13:42
blackdivine	blabla, if you are running ubuntu now, you should see the drives on left panel if you are in your home, click on them and identify your windows drive, is it there?	13:42
szal	Monotoko: XFCE is far from light any longer, as I understand it	13:43
Reikoku	szal: It's a lot lighter than gnome/kde/unity :P	13:43
pupuserf0be20	hi guys i need help with my home directory	13:43
Monotoko	szal, I think the recent one isn't very light...but 10.04 does the job quite nicelty	13:43
blabla	blackdivine: yes	13:43
Monotoko	*nicely	13:43
arcaos	I have no sound coming out of my system, it used to work before but now I don't even hear the initial drums, then the sound icon appears in the system tray but there are no volume bars and no application has sound. Anybody here experiences something like it?	13:43
brahmana	Monotoko, szal, Reikoku -- Would the laptop being old have anything to do with it throwing up "Boot Error" (Just that nothing else) when I tired booting with USB earlier (before I tried a CD)?	13:43
blackdivine	blabla, and you dont see it in grub right?	13:44
pupuserf0be20	"it does not appear to exist" and it does =O	13:44
blabla	blackdivine: no	13:44
Reikoku	brahmana: It might not be able to boot from USB	13:44
* szal remembers XFCE 3, which would start up in <5 secs from a Knoppix CD on a 1.7 GHz single-core CPU		13:44
Monotoko	brahmana, anything pre-2006 generally can't boot from USB#	13:44
brahmana	Oh.. !	13:44
blackdivine	blabla, ok open terminal (ctrl+alt+t) and run "sudo apt-get purge grub-pc)	13:44
Reikoku	szal: You mean the whole OS booted in 5 secs or xfce did? :P	13:44
szal	Reikoku: the XFCE desktop	13:45
pokoko222	what do i need to work with opengl in ubuntu?	13:45
blackdivine	blabla and then in the same terminal, run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" and paste the output at http://pastebin.pk/	13:45
brahmana	Reikoku, Monotoko : There is an option for temporary order selection on the laptop and that lists the USB drive (as a USB HDD) only when it is plugged in..	13:45
Reikoku	From startx my xfce4 boots in around 3 on a Celeron E3200	13:45
Traintop	pkoko222: do your mean running applications or developing them?	13:45
brahmana	And the bios has both USB HDD and USB FDD options for boot order selection	13:45
Internetpc	HI....Where can I Suggest name for future version of ubuntu ?	13:46
pokoko222	Traintop develop	13:46
kiichiro	on xubuntu how do I make it so it automatically logs me in?	13:46
Monotoko	brahmana, pre-2006 they could boot from certain USB HDD's, not flash drives though	13:46
pupuserf0be20	can anyone hlep me?	13:46
Reikoku	kiichiro: Does it use xdm?	13:47
Internetpc	<pupuserf0be20> : abt what ?	13:47
brahmana	Monotoko: oh.. I see..	13:47
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, what's wrong? Sorry I missed your message	13:47
Monotoko	this place moves too fast at times >.>	13:48
pupuserf0be20	"my home directory does not appear to exist", i got that message after my desktop froze and i had to force shutdown...	13:48
Traintop	pokoko222: I always used synaptic to install libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev, this installs all every other dev-packages...	13:48
pupuserf0be20	when i tried to log in	13:48
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, is that when you login?	13:48
pokoko222	Traintop that is all i need?	13:48
pupuserf0be20	it worked just fine before	13:48
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, switch to a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and try to login	13:48
blackdivine	blabla, any progress?	13:48
blabla	blackdivine: I think it did it : http://pastebin.pk/775	13:49
Traintop	pokoko222: this is one of the libs you need to have: the others are all dependant and are installed alongside	13:49
Reikoku	kiichiro: I cant remember if xubuntu uses gdm or xdm, if it's gdm it's in sudo gdmsetup	13:49
blabla	blackdivine: the longest part was having the site respond the url :P	13:49
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, it sounds like your home directory has corrupted when you force rebooted	13:49
pokoko222	Traintop thank you	13:49
blackdivine	blabla, yes "Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1" that marks your success, congrats :)	13:49
Genghiz	what do I google for when I want synaptic/ package manager to pop-up saying "so and so" program not installed , do you wanna install from package manager ?	13:49
Genghiz	from python ?	13:49
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blabla	blackdivine: I think I should reboot to try at this point, thank you for your help :)	13:49
Traintop	pokoko222: do not use swx ; it's software-rendering	13:50
blackdivine	blabla, yeah go ahead, no problem, give and get :)	13:50
Traintop	pokoko222: use libgl1-mesa-dev	13:50
dcorking	are there rogue updates in my update stream? they attempt to replace apt on the grounds of a package validation bug, but the bug in the changelog returns a 'page not found' at https://launchpad.net/bugs/784473 :(	13:50
ubottu	Error: ubuntu bug 784473 not found	13:50
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, can I PM you? This place is moving way to fast for me to give effective help	13:50
pupuserf0be20	PM me? where?	13:50
Monotoko	on here...hold on	13:50
Monotoko	pupuserf0be20, I sent you a message	13:50
pokoko222	Traintop ah i saw that and installed swx it automatically uninstalled libgl1-mesa-dev ok will do it agai	13:51
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* Dreamscape[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard)		13:51
roadfish	I can set position of wma files but NOT mp3 files. How do I get amarok to position mp3 files?	13:51
szal	dcorking: there you have it.. smells like a rootkit or something	13:51
szal	dcorking: other than that, at what occasion is apt trying to be replaced?	13:52
Reikoku	Smells nasty	13:52
dcorking	szal, thanks. seems a bit blatant - hiding in plain sight by mentioning pkg vaslidation in the changelog	13:52
dcorking	szal, comes in update-manager	13:52
szal	dcorking: friggin' GUI stuff.. does it also come up on the terminal?	13:53
Reikoku	I don't trust my guis :P	13:53
Reikoku	They hide too much output	13:53
pokoko222	Traintop which header do you then include to work with opengl, and which libraries you link to	13:54
Traintop	pokoko222: just a moment	13:54
Traintop	have to boot up another machine... :-(	13:55
szal	some mirrors are bloody slow to send headers, slowing cache update down.. -> Fetched 72 B in 52s (1 B/s)	13:56
pokoko222	Traintop i would be very greatful, i can wait	13:56
dcorking	szal - a search on launchpad shows up a bzr braanch with the same puzzling changelog: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/apt/natty-security/revision/141	13:57
Traintop	pokoko222: try this file http://paste.ubuntu.com/646531/	13:58
Traintop	it's a simple window with a spinning cube: compile with "gcc cube.cpp -o cube -lGL -lGLU -lglut"	13:58
vk4akp	Hi guys.	13:58
vk4akp	Anyone know the URL to download the White version of Ubuntu?	13:59
pokoko222	Traintop i am in netbeans	13:59
kiichiro	xubuntu uses I believe the xdm	13:59
pokoko222	pokoko222 wow nice file i can take it from here, thank you so much :)	14:00
vk4akp	I'm after the release that doesn'have the Nigerian RootKit installed.	14:00
brahmana	szal: I just tried the "edd=on" and "nomodeset" and the behavior is still the same.	14:00
Traintop	pokoko222: try this one on the terminal; if it works you can try getting it to run in netbeans; but I prefer emacs and terminal :-)	14:00
dgandhi360	Greetings all, I was wondering if there is a way to get gnome-terminal to zoom-in when called instead of requiring menu/hotkeys.	14:00
brahmana	szal: The CD drive just goes dead silent a little while after the blinking dots screen (which otherwise is pretty noisy)	14:01
szal	dcorking: what's the final pkg version of the apt pkg to be installed?	14:01
szal	brahmana: does it ever get past the dots?	14:01
acicula	Traintop: you can compile individual modules as long as the source tree is configured and prepared, think you can use make M=path/to/module/directory	14:02
dcorking	I know it is standard for the security team to hide launchpad bugs until the fix is available, but is 784473 supposed to remain hidden "page not found" ?	14:02
Reikoku	Isn't there a way to hide the dots and see the bootup under it?	14:02
brahmana	szal: I have tried only two scenarios - the default and with your suggestion - and in both cases a little while after the dots the screen goes blank and no key press does anything	14:02
szal	Reikoku: press Esc when booting	14:02
Traintop	acicula: thanks :-) "make oldconfig;make modules_prepare;make modules" is still running, but after it finishes I'll try your suggestion	14:02
Reikoku	brahmana: Try that	14:03
kiichiro	Reikoku, xubuntu uses the xdm I believe	14:03
acicula	Reikoku: think alt-f1 or tab or some combination of it might make it switch back to text, not sure though.	14:03
dcorking	szal : going to apt version 0.8.13.2ubuntu4.1	14:03
Reikoku	Press esc when booting	14:03
brahmana	ok	14:03
Reikoku	See what the error is	14:03
szal	dcorking: that update came a week or so ago; I normally don't bother about changelogs, so I didn't notice something strange there	14:03
szal	dcorking: perhaps poke the maintainer about your finding	14:05
nahab	ubuntu-de	14:05
Traintop	ok, after aborting my last compile I just read a line which I overread till now: "WARNING: Symbol version dump /home/marcus/zd/linux-source-2.6.38/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.	14:05
Traintop	"	14:05
dcorking	szal - ta - where do you find the dates on the updates?	14:06
starlon	is there any way to disable specific cores? I know I can pass maxcpus=1 in Grub. I don't know which core's being used though.	14:06
Traintop	this is exactly the problem I have with this module...	14:06
starlon	Does it simply go 0, then 1, etc..?	14:06
Traintop	how can I get this fixed... -copy Module.symvers from /boot?	14:06
brahmana	szal, Reikoku : Doesn't halt at an error. Lead me to the blank screen and silent CD drive again.	14:06
Reikoku	Traintop: Did you make before make modules?	14:06
dyd	what's a good way to make an image of all my so + applications? like a recovery dvd	14:07
Traintop	Reikoku: no	14:07
brahmana	szal, Reikoku The last thing that looked like an error was : ureadahead-other stopped with status 4	14:07
Reikoku	brahmana: Seems like it's trying to load X but failing :/	14:07
szal	brahmana: that's normal, afaict	14:07
natrixnatrix89	how do i access ubuntu guest user account?	14:07
brahmana	can I start this in runlevel 3?	14:07
Reikoku	Are ttys enabled in livecd environment?	14:07
offermann_	hi, hab ubuntu 11.04 leider ist kein ruhestand instsalliert, wie kann ich das ändern?	14:07
Reikoku	Try ctrl-alt-f2	14:07
brahmana	No, none of those worked	14:07
szal	natrixnatrix89: there is no guest user account, unless you created one	14:08
Traintop	Reikoku: I did the following: 1. apt-get install linux-sources-2.6.28.tar.bz2 2. patch zd1211rw-module 3. cp /boot/config-2.6.38-8-generic .config 4. make oldconfig;make modules_prepare;make modules...	14:08
brahmana	Reikoku: i.e none of Ctrl + alt + F(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) worked	14:08
brahmana	szal: Is there a boot up option like edd=on to start in runlevel 3? (i.e. no X)	14:09
starlon	Is there a particular package I can install via apt-get that'll install a bunch of common build tools, such as automake, gcc, std libs, etc?	14:09
szal	brahmana: append "text" to the kernel line in Grub	14:09
Reikoku	brahmana: I can only suggest the alternative CD	14:09
Reikoku	Traintop: That should work assuming your kernel is a similar version	14:09
kiichiro	on xubuntu how do I make it so it automatically logs me in?	14:10
Reikoku	I assume all as root :P	14:10
Traintop	Reikoku: I downloaded this version because this is the kernel my machine uses atm...	14:10
root____	where do u think i should start learning backtrack???	14:10
ikonia	root____: in #backtrack-linux	14:10
Traintop	Reikoku: thought this would be the only way... :-)	14:10
ikonia	root____: this channel is for Ubuntu support	14:10
Reikoku	Traintop: Oh, you're not upgrading kernel then? :P	14:10
starlon	ah build-essentials	14:10
Traintop	Reikoku: no, I just want to recompile this one module called "zd1211rw.ko"	14:11
brahmana	szal: The end of the boot options line looks like this now : "initird=/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash -- text" -- Is that fine?	14:11
Traintop	because I have to patch this module for some specific reason...	14:11
szal	brahmana: yes	14:11
szal	brahmana: while you're at it you might want to remove "quiet splash"	14:12
Traintop	Reikoku: what yould be the way you suggest to do this? -the only reason I'm fiddling with the kernel is this packet-injection-patch for the zd1211rw-module... -I do NOT want to compile my kernel or up- or downgrade it; just get this module to work with this patch... :-(	14:13
nahab	hallo jemand da?	14:13
brahmana	szal: it worked.. I got the prompt.. ! :)	14:13
szal	brahmana: in other words, it's an X load problem	14:13
Traintop	nahab: yo, alda :-)	14:13
szal	!de \| nahab	14:13
ubottu	nahab: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!	14:14
Reikoku	Traintop: I'm struggling to see why it isn't working, I assume you do make oldconfig, then make menuconfig to turn on the module you want, then patch, then make modules	14:14
Reikoku	I used to have a module I had to patch all the time for my Mac's backlight	14:14
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Traintop	reikoku: ok, wrong order; I first did patch, then make oldconfig...	14:14
Traintop	Reikoku: should I try the other way round?	14:14
dddbmt	How do I check the temperature of my ubuntu 11.04 machine? It is quite warm, and just turn off without warning.	14:14
brahmana	szal: Yes. I wonder if some conf file tweaks can get X also running... nevertheless the command prompt should be good enough for now..	14:14
kiichiro	can someone help me so I don't need to login, I know I just asked this but I switched computers to more easily read everything	14:15
brahmana	szal, Reikoku, Monotoko : thank you all very much...	14:15
tyler_d	why is it that in ubuntu 11.04 the terminal title does not update on ssh? fresh install(32)	14:15
nahab	german ubuntu?	14:15
szal	brahmana: if you want to actually install something on that machine later on, I suggest grabbing the alternate CD	14:15
tktiddle	Im looking for a package "alfresco" which should be in the partners repo, but i cant find it with aptitude.. does anyone know anything about this package? is it available on ubuntu10?	14:15
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro: do you mean autologin?	14:15
Traintop	nahab: es gibt einen deutschen ubuntu-channel; aber worum geht es? -vielleict kann ich dir weiterhelfen?	14:16
kiichiro	Correct natrixnatrix89	14:16
brahmana	szal: I will remember that.	14:16
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro are you on natty?	14:16
kiichiro	yes	14:16
kiichiro	xubuntu 11.04	14:16
head_victim	Anyone have some good rsync flags for syncing a mirror? I'm using -vtlrh --delete and my mirror has slowly gorwn over time to 800 GB	14:16
brahmana	szal: However the case here is that, it was a dual boot eariler and I accidentally deleted the Ubuntu partition from windows and now I need to set the MBR right so that I can boot Windows at least.. !	14:16
Reikoku	brahmana: Depending what your graphics card is, you may need to be prepared to mess around to get it to work	14:16
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro: then just go to settings and click login screen	14:17
ikonia	head_victim: try #rsync	14:17
natrixnatrix89	and use autologin	14:17
pokoko222	which header and library do i need to install for glut in ubuntu?	14:17
szal	brahmana: ah, that should work fine on the terminal ^^	14:17
CaptWho	anyone have any idea how to burn a 788mg iso image on a 700mg data disk? is it possible to break the iso into 2 parts?	14:17
kiichiro	My name is not available to be choosen from the list, the drop box just remains gray even after I unlock it	14:17
head_victim	ikonia: cheers, looked for a mirror room but that's another aspect	14:17
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natrixnatrix89	have you checked the checkbox?	14:17
Traintop	pokoko222: just open synaptic and enter "glut dev" in the search field	14:17
kiichiro	yes I have	14:17
brahmana	Reikoku: I think I will keep this old one on Windows. I will just the new one for Linux. :)	14:18
pokoko222	Traintop by the way i got gl and glu headers right :) ok i will do this one now	14:18
natrixnatrix89	weird. maybe you have to reconfigure login screen manager..	14:18
pokoko222	Traintop but there is other stuff like freeglut dunno what to install	14:18
kiichiro	how exactly would I go about doing that	14:18
szal	Traintop: he found the German channel ;)	14:19
Traintop	pokoko222: it's always the same when setting up a new machine... installing all the libs and headers for GL... -but if you got it running once you have no worries anymore... :-)	14:19
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro: just sudo dpkg --reconfigure <your login manager>	14:19
natrixnatrix89	on ubuntu it would be gdm	14:19
kiichiro	what would my login manager be exactly?	14:19
natrixnatrix89	on lubuntu it was lxdm as I remember	14:19
madprops	how can this make any sense? http://www.mybravetruehero.com/skype-upside-down-video-problem-solved/	14:19
natrixnatrix89	I don't remember.. google for that	14:19
madprops	how is that file supposed to run skype?	14:19
Traintop	szal: I always sit here because I HOPE there are more english-speaking-ubuntu-users than german ones.. .:-)	14:19
pokoko222	Traintop ok so which one do i install there are more glut headers and libraries stuff all over the place :)	14:19
BluesKaj	brahmana, are you sure you deleted the ubuntu partition , or did you install windows after installing ubuntu and now you can't access	14:20
szal	Traintop: obviously there are ;)	14:20
tomodachi	does anyone haw a quick fick for ultra slow workspace switching performance? im on latest ubuntu nvidia proprietary driver	14:20
brahmana	szal: btw, I been following this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=508927 to reset the MBR and it suggests use of the package ms-sys which now seems to be removed from repo for licensing issues. Is mbr the right package to use now?	14:20
Traintop	pokoko222: mom	14:20
tktiddle	Ive enabled the partners repo but i cant find sun-java6-jdk	14:20
pokoko222	Traintop mom?	14:20
brahmana	BluesKaj: I am pretty sure I deleted the Ubuntu parition. Though I had that other problem that you stated quite a few years ago... :)	14:20
Traintop	pokoko222: wait a moment :-) german-online-gamer-language :-)	14:21
szal	brahmana: reinstalling Grub should do, unless the installation is so b0rked that even more stuff is missing	14:21
szal	!grub \| brahmana	14:21
ubottu	brahmana: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)	14:21
Traintop	pokoko222: install freeglut3-dev	14:21
tktiddle	How do i install sun/oracle java?	14:21
Traintop	pokoko222: packets with a red ubuntu-icon are always good to install :-)	14:21
kiichiro	natrixnatrix89, wait, just remembered something, how do I get to the security tab	14:21
brahmana	szal: aah.. um.. well I deleted the ubuntu parition from the Windows Disk Management tool..	14:22
pokoko222	Traintop thank you so much so so much oh boy i cant wait to get to program now	14:22
szal	brahmana: then there's nothing to do but to reinstall	14:22
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro: security? it should be seahorse	14:22
Traintop	pokoko222: did you get the cube-demo to compile and run?	14:22
pokoko222	Traintop well i needed the glut header just a sec	14:23
brahmana	szal: No, I just want to reset the MBR and just have windows on this machine (for now at least). Do I need to install the OS complete for that?	14:23
pokoko222	Traintop what do i include now i have both freeglut.h and glut.h :D	14:23
szal	brahmana: you better do that from an appropriate Windows install medium	14:23
Traintop	brahmana: boot into windows anyhow and do this chkdsk -fix-mbr ...	14:23
Traintop	pokoko222:should work both if both are installed by synaptic	14:24
szal	Traintop: afaik, incumbent instructions are different for XP and Vista/Win7	14:24
brahmana	ok	14:24
Traintop	szal: havent't booted into non-linux-os for over 6a now... -so I do not remember all the syntax-options from DOS... :-(	14:25
szal	Traintop: XP has a 'fixmbr' command, for Vista/Win7 I'd have to look instructions up.. </ot>	14:26
Traintop	szal: same for me: my last win was XP SP2; all other windows after this I haven't seen but in the commercials... :-)	14:26
Traintop	yesterday, a friend of mine asked my for some help with his new laptop and this runs win7 ultimate... -did not find anything at first :-)	14:27
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Traintop	by the way: someone out there running ubuntu 11.04 64bit a	14:29
pokoko222	Traintop which libraries do i need to link to/	14:29
Traintop	nd has a running zd1211rw.ko with packet-injection... :->	14:29
kiichiro	natrixnatrix89, for the auto login I hear I'm suppose to open the login screen and move to the security tab, is that different in natty	14:29
BluesKaj	brahmana, if you can find an app called easyBCD then you should be able fix the mbr on W7/Vista using that .	14:30
Traintop	pokoko222: gcc cube.cpp -o cube -lGL -lGLU -lglut	14:30
Reikoku	Traintop: I haven't used Windows on a home PC since Clinton was in the white house :P	14:30
Traintop	pokoko222: the order of -lGL and -lGLU and -lglut is important...	14:30
natrixnatrix89	kiichiro: shouldn't be..	14:30
kiichiro	odd I don't have a security tab for my thing, ya sounds like a reconfigure thing for sure	14:30
Traintop	reikoku: clinton was early-90s, wasn't he?	14:30
asher^	hello, im wondering if someone can tell me how to view the current linux kernel config from a command line	14:31
Traintop	Reikoku: did you just give him as a time-mark or did he do something to get you off windows?	14:31
brahmana	BluesKaj: Just looked at easyBCD's website. Does it work when I am not able to boot into any OS at all?	14:31
BluesKaj	brahmana, I thought it was on a live-cd	14:32
pokoko222	Traintop yeah but i am in netbeans and i try to now locate those libraries	14:32
brahmana	BluesKaj: Ok. Will read the guides. Thank you for the suggestion.	14:33
szal	brahmana: Windows help is in ##windows	14:33
Reikoku	Traintop: Time mark :P	14:33
brahmana	szal: Oh ok.. thank you.	14:33
Reikoku	And he was up until 98 I believe	14:33
Traintop	pokoko222: I did not use netbeans yet; so you have to figure this out somehow, but can you compile this test-cube on the command-line with the given command; then you could at least assure your installation is working...	14:33
pokoko222	Traintop yeah oki doki, i will figure out now which libraries i need to link and where do i find them	14:34
Traintop	ok, then late-90s; also quite a time for linux and bsds...	14:34
brahmana	szal: Though I would prefer to fix this MBR from my Ubuntu LiveCD that I have booted already.. :)	14:34
Traintop	pokoko222: I just mentioned the command so you could check if you have everything installed...	14:34
[THC]AcidRain	ok i have a question about mounting a drive. in the fstab, when i associate the drive with its mount point, my drive changes names on its own. so do i just link every possible name it could have?	14:35
[THC]AcidRain	it just recently started doing things i dont want it to do -.-	14:35
Traintop	editing the lib-paths in netbeans should be documented somewhere...	14:35
VEndix	Hello, i change password and procedure comes right way, but i can't login into Ubuntu One, section.	14:35
VEndix	Can someone help me to do that?	14:35
Traintop	[THC]AcidRain: if your drive changes names try mounting it via its uuid	14:35
XLV	brahmana, my take, boot into ubuntu from the live cd, install grub2, then use easybcd to setup a bcd entry intro windows boot manager using grub2 template.. works great	14:36
Traintop	then the name is not relevant anymore...	14:36
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[THC]AcidRain	Traintop: how do i do that?	14:36
[THC]AcidRain	it changes from /dev/sdg1 to sdh1 sdc1	14:36
[THC]AcidRain	and so on	14:36
arcaos	any sound expert around? need some help please	14:36
mmocny	Hi All: I've just rebooted and after BIOS/POST the screen goes black. I can't Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see term, I don't see any loading graphics or anything. I _can_ ssh into the machine, so ubuntu is loading and responding.. how can I diagnose the issue? (I totalled my home folder before reboot, in order to remove ecryptfs, and am working on fixing it now)	14:36
brahmana	XLV: Ok, now how do I install grub2 in the right location and in the right way?	14:37
Traintop	THC: just a moment	14:37
BluesKaj	!grub \| brahmana	14:37
ubottu	brahmana: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)	14:37
XLV	brahmana, apt-get install grub2 will do all that for you	14:37
[THC]AcidRain	/dev/sdc1 /media/Server2 ext3 defaults 0 0	14:37
brahmana	XLV: Ubuntu LiveCD is running now and I have access to command prompt (as root)	14:37
[THC]AcidRain	this is what i have so far	14:37
kz3	is there any way I can sync apps to my iPod touch in Ubuntu	14:38
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[THC]AcidRain	but when i unplug the drive, or reboot. it will load the drive as /dev/sdg1	14:38
Traintop	sudo blkid /dev/sda1	14:38
Traintop	or in your case /dev/sdg1	14:38
[THC]AcidRain	Traintop: the drive was named sdg1 for 2 months	14:38
[THC]AcidRain	this blocks a drive id?	14:38
Reikoku	kz3: RhythmBox can sync with iDevices	14:38
Traintop	THC: this will give you the uuid for this partition	14:38
brahmana	XLV: Where on the hard-disk will the installed files be? (since this is live cd)	14:38
Reikoku	Not sure if the patch is built in though	14:38
Traintop	THC: so you can mount it via fstab even if the name changes	14:39
XLV	brahmana, you need to mount the ubuntu / somewhere, then into shell, issue the command "sudo chroot /<path and dir of mounted ubuntu>	14:39
XLV	brahmana, then use the apt-get command	14:39
brahmana	XLV: aah.. ok.. got it	14:39
[THC]AcidRain	Traintop: on the command you gave me. no output...	14:39
Traintop	root@Lunar:~# sudo blkid /dev/sda1	14:40
Traintop	/dev/sda1: UUID="2be3d9ea-da14-4a77-9a27-b83ef8f3ed72" TYPE="ext4"	14:40
[THC]AcidRain	oh nvm	14:40
[THC]AcidRain	UUID="1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183" TYPE="ext3"	14:40
Reikoku	kz3: Looks like it's supported out of the box on Ubuntu	14:40
[THC]AcidRain	ok this is very interesting	14:40
[THC]AcidRain	now im going to link it with this in fstab?	14:40
kz3	Reikoku : means?	14:40
Pici	kz3: 'sync apps'?	14:40
Traintop	THC: in fstab just alter /dev/sd... against 1D112679-....	14:40
Traintop	THC: wrong!	14:41
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[THC]AcidRain	1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183 /media/Server2 ext3 defaults 0 0	14:41
Reikoku	Oh wait, apps?	14:41
Pici	kz3: What do you mean by 'sync apps'?	14:41
Traintop	THC: dev/sd... should be UUID=34523452345	14:41
Reikoku	Hmm, can't you download them on the iPod Touch directly? :S	14:41
[THC]AcidRain	yea thats what i have...	14:41
Reikoku	Pici: He means download apps from iTunes store	14:41
kz3	Pici : I mean installing apps on ipod	14:41
Reikoku	and sync themn	14:41
Reikoku	But iPod has App Store	14:41
Reikoku	and WiFi	14:41
[THC]AcidRain	i didnt get any errors regarding location not found	14:42
[THC]AcidRain	so i guess it worked	14:42
Pici	kz3: No, you cannot use any Linux programs to do that. I don't know what the viability of running itunes in a virtual machine is though.	14:42
[THC]AcidRain	let me unmount and unplugg and replug. see what happens	14:42
Reikoku	You should be able to download them straight to the iPod assuming you have a wireless network	14:42
Traintop	THC: That's what UUID are for :-)	14:42
[THC]AcidRain	ok. umount	14:43
[THC]AcidRain	unplugged, and replugged.	14:43
[THC]AcidRain	lets see what we got	14:43
[THC]AcidRain	=(	14:43
Reikoku	kz3: Is App Store not working on your iPod/you don't have wireless?	14:43
[THC]AcidRain	it mounted as Server2_	14:43
Reikoku	On my iPad (which is basically just a big iPod Touch) I always download Apps straight on the device	14:44
kz3	Reikoku : actually the downloading speed on my iPod is very slow....I dont know why but it is	14:44
Traintop	THC: shouldn't it mount as /media/Server2 ?	14:44
Traintop	THC: according to your fstab	14:44
[THC]AcidRain	yes it SHOULD.	14:45
[THC]AcidRain	1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183 /media/Server2 ext3 defaults 0 0	14:45
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: unmount it. remove any extra /media/server2 dirs. plug it back in. and it should to to /media/server2	14:45
Reikoku	kz3: That's very odd	14:45
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Pici	[THC]AcidRain: It needs to say UUID= in front of your UUID.	14:46
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: but fstab may disable the automounting stuff	14:46
[THC]AcidRain	i took your advice dr_willis	14:46
[THC]AcidRain	it loaded fine as Server2 this time	14:46
kz3	Reikoku: it is...what should I do?	14:46
[THC]AcidRain	Pici: does it HAVE to say uuid=? infront	14:46
[THC]AcidRain	cause it appears to be working without it	14:46
Reikoku	kz3: It's probably that the iPod doesn't like the encryption, the older iPods use processor instead of a dedicated chip to decrypt	14:47
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: it automounted.. ignred the fstab entry	14:47
dr_willis	ignored	14:47
[THC]AcidRain	hmmm	14:47
Traintop	THC: in my fstab every uuid-entry begins with UUID=	14:47
[THC]AcidRain	ok. ill try again. i edited it uuid	14:47
Pici	[THC]AcidRain: I was under the impression that it did need to start with that.	14:47
[skl-]	How to make a remote list on xchat-gnome guys ? :(	14:47
kiamo	hi	14:48
[THC]AcidRain	ok trying again	14:48
dr_willis	[skl-]: to do what exzactly. most people perfer the normal xchat also	14:48
[THC]AcidRain	:(	14:48
[THC]AcidRain	it says: You are not priviledged to mount the volume 'Server2'.	14:48
Reikoku	kz3: I expect if you turn off encryption on your router it will go much faster but that's not really a solution :P	14:48
CloudBlue	hi i need help	14:49
pokoko222	Traintop I got the most beatiful rotating cube on my screen thank you :D	14:49
[THC]AcidRain	do i have to sudo to mount?	14:49
ActionParsnip	[THC]AcidRain: prefix with sudo	14:49
kiamo	I seem to have a problem with my repos	14:49
[THC]AcidRain	i want it to automount as Server2	14:49
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kz3	Reikoku: my network doesnt have encryption key	14:49
[THC]AcidRain	i dont want to run sudo everytime to mount :(	14:49
ActionParsnip	kiamo: can you give a pastebin of: sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a	14:49
Traintop	pokoko222: :-) -now you should go to NeHes site to get to know how to programm opengl from bottom to top :-)	14:49
kiamo	sure, just a second ActionParsnip ^^	14:49
CloudBlue	i need help =(	14:50
ActionParsnip	[THC]AcidRain: you can add it in /etc/fstab and it will mount at boot, you can use nautilus and you won't need any authentication	14:50
ActionParsnip	CloudBlue: ask away :)	14:50
[THC]AcidRain	ActionParsnip: i can add sudo in fstab? :/	14:50
[THC]AcidRain	cause ive already added it in fstab.	14:50
CloudBlue	my home directory ¨does not appear to exist¨ and shows up as an empty file when i log into another account. This was after my desktop froze and i had to hard reset...	14:50
yuvateja	by using ping command finding ip address of a particular domain name is taking long time there is any other command is there?	14:50
ActionParsnip	[THC]AcidRain: no, it needs a different syntax, I'd look into using nautilus first (far easier)	14:51
CloudBlue	when i loged in before it worked just fine	14:51
kiamo	what's a good pastebin alt?	14:51
[THC]AcidRain	actually fstab seems to be handling it. cause i just got an error saying Server2 not found	14:51
kiamo	pastebin isn't loading for me	14:51
[THC]AcidRain	so ill have to create the dir now	14:51
pokoko222	Traintop i got myself this book called interactive computer graphics top down approach but i got also beginning game programming with opengl too because i need an opengl book and this one seems to be just that	14:51
Traintop	kiamo: paste.ubuntu.com	14:51
ActionParsnip	!paste \| kiamo	14:52
ubottu	kiamo: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add \| !pastebinit to paste directly from command line \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.	14:52
kiamo	http://paste2.org/p/1526686	14:52
kiamo	ah	14:52
kiamo	nevermind, i found another ^^	14:52
BluesKaj	!pastebinit	14:52
ubottu	pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command \| pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com	14:52
[THC]AcidRain	final test right here!	14:52
dr_willis	[THC]AcidRain: you may want to read up on fstab and mounting. you may be overlooking some basic fundamentals and getting confused	14:52
sipior	yuvateja: "dig domain.name.com", if i understand your question correctly.	14:52
[THC]AcidRain	grrrr! got a mount priviledge error again	14:53
Traintop	pokoko222: if you first get some demo to compile and run the journey really starts :-)	14:53
[THC]AcidRain	im gonna reboot and see if it will mount automatically	14:53
Traintop	s/run the/run; -the/	14:53
CloudBlue	how can i get my home directory account back?	14:53
Guest30519	Hi there, I think this is relevant...I am also trying to edit /etc/fstab in order to mount a second harddrive, however I am getting an error message	14:53
brahmana	XLV: I was trying that chroot thingy and got confused in the course.	14:53
h4xx0r	wats up :D	14:54
Guest30519	hmmm.. why do I come up as Guest30519?	14:54
[THC]AcidRain	Guest30519: what is your error? we will make it together	14:54
kiamo	ActionParsnip, forgot to put your name, don't know if you saw. http://paste2.org/p/1526686	14:54
kiamo	^^	14:54
yuvateja	sipior:yes,thank you	14:54
brahmana	XLV: I have a partition with ext2 fs now and I mounted / on that parition. Am I doing it right?	14:54
BluesKaj	!nick \| Guest30519	14:54
dr_willis	!fstab	14:54
ubottu	Guest30519: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.	14:54
ubottu	The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	14:54
Traintop	pokoko222: the guys over at channel #gl or #opengl are also quite friendly and some of them have very good knowledge about gl :-)	14:54
Guest30519	the added line is line 9. The error message says that line 9 is bad, but it is pretty much copied from the line that lists the main harddrive	14:54
ActionParsnip	kiamo: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 94E58C34A8670E8C	14:54
XLV	brahmana, go into /mnt, sudo mkdir test, then chroot /mnt/test	14:55
ActionParsnip	kiamo: the xbmc doesn't have a natty folder, so you will get that error until they update	14:55
Guest30519	!nick	14:55
ubottu	Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.	14:55
XLV	brahmana, sudo chroot /mnt/test	14:55
[THC]AcidRain	Guest30519: run sudo blkid /dev/disk	14:55
kiamo	ActionParsnip, oh i see.	14:55
kiamo	hmm	14:55
[THC]AcidRain	:)	14:55
Guest30519	:}	14:55
kiamo	thanks ActionParsnip :)	14:55
XLV	brahmana, also, you dont have to issue sudo all the time, if you use sudo -i one time at beginning	14:55
ActionParsnip	kiamo: you forgot to add the GPG key for your screenlets PPA too	14:55
ActionParsnip	kiamo: the command imports it	14:56
brahmana	XLV: sudo is fine, I did sudo bash to avoid the pain.. :)	14:56
ActionParsnip	kiamo: you CAN change the ppa in software centre to maverick and it will be ok but it may cause issues later. Your choice	14:56
VEndix	Can someone, help me to understand why do the FileZilla crashes without any error when i try to upload file to the server?	14:56
dr_willis	better to do sudo -i or -s	14:56
brahmana	XLV: I am little confused here. At beginning no part of the file system points to any hard-disk parition, right?	14:56
kiamo	ActionParsnip, ill try it. I just want to test xbmc out before deciding to build a machine for it. ^^	14:57
CloudBlue	T.T	14:57
dr_willis	kiamo: check out boxxee also	14:57
dr_willis	boxee	14:57
XLV	brahmana, lets say your root partition of your ubuntu install is /dev/sda1	14:57
kiamo	dr_willis, oh yea?	14:57
BluesKaj	sudo or aliases and sudoers	14:57
* kiamo googles		14:57
ActionParsnip	kiamo: its not bad, resource hungry but not bad at all. If you make a dedicated system for it I'd suggest using some light desktop like LXDE instead of gnome	14:57
VEndix	Can someone, help me to understand why do the FileZilla crashes without any error when i try to upload file to the server?	14:57
dr_willis	kiamo: its xbmc +moar	14:58
XLV	brahmana, you mkdir /mnt/test then mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test then chroot /mnt/test	14:58
ActionParsnip	VEndix: do other ftp clients work ok? does the same behaviour occur as all users?	14:58
brahmana	XLV: Well, that's the problem here. No ubuntu install exists here. The parition on which Ubuntu was installed is deleted.	14:58
XLV	brahmana, ... then just reinstall ubuntu	14:58
ActionParsnip	kiamo: could just install Lubuntu to make life easier ;)	14:58
VEndix	ActionParsnip: well i will try, what client i should install?	14:59
kiamo	dr_willis, im looking for a better solution for watching movies. at the moment I am transcoding with PMS. However about 50% of the time I have transcode errors	14:59
ActionParsnip	VEndix: there are plenty available, search software centre	14:59
Victor_	Hi	14:59
K4k	I'm getting a random, blank, window on my screen at login. I'm using icewm and I've got xscreensaver, nm-applet and xfce4-power-manager starting up, all without apparent errors. Any ideas what this window might be? I'm unable to close it.	14:59
kiamo	ActionParsnip, I was thinking of just installing the XBMC Live.	14:59
kiamo	ActionParsnip, maybe easier?	14:59
brahmana	XLV: I am trying to just reset the MBR for now. I am trying to avoid an install here. This is an old laptop and cannot handle the regular 10.04. So I want to leave it with just Windows	14:59
=== Victor_ is now known as iVictor
dr_willis	kiamo: i had issues with xbmc live	14:59
CloudBlue	can someone help in a personal channel, it will only take a sec...	15:00
ActionParsnip	kiamo: that works too, not sure how drivers would work. depends what is on the CD to how well it will work	15:00
dr_willis	xmbc live was a little old last i tried it	15:00
Assid	heya	15:00
brahmana	XLV: Will a grub install to a hdd partition without any ubuntu install work?	15:00
XLV	brahmana, ok, then just go into windows, fire up easybcd, remove all linux entries from bcd menu if they exist, then somewhere in easybcd panels, theres an option "write mbr"	15:00
ushills	NickServ identify ushills stanley	15:00
BluesKaj	kiamo, you can add the xbmc repos to your soiurces list the 10.10 repos version works	15:00
ActionParsnip	ushills: ooops	15:01
Assid	so im planning on setting up an ubuntu desktop which works over iscsi for a diskless boot	15:01
XLV	brahmana, why you want grub on a system with no linux or any other OS that uses grub? use windows boot manager	15:01
brahmana	XLV: I have no way of going into Windows.. Grub just lands me in rescue shell.. !	15:01
dr_willis	ushills: time to change password	15:01
ushills	Ooops indeed	15:01
Assid	can someone help me go about this?	15:01
ActionParsnip	ushills: I recommend you join #freenode and change password	15:01
Traintop	ushills: someone has to change its password... :-)	15:01
ushills	Password isn't correct fortunately	15:01
ActionParsnip	Assid: then you'll need a pxe server	15:01
dr_willis	lol	15:01
ActionParsnip	ushills: lucky	15:02
brahmana	XLV: No, I do not want grub. I just want to reset the MBR so that I can boot the machine.	15:02
iVictor	I updated ubuntu 2.6.32.32 to 2.6.32.33 and rebooted today. Since then, the system is not booting up. It throws error & drops to BusyBox.	15:02
kiamo	dr_willis, ActionParsnip, i had issues on this computer too. I figured I would buy a low end system that is compatible and suitable for 1080p playback	15:02
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ActionParsnip	iVictor: if you hold shift at boot, can you boot to the older kernel?	15:02
roy__	i need help guys with installing gallium and mesa over fglrx	15:02
Assid	ActionParsnip i already have endian firewall	15:02
XLV	brahmana, well, this is then purely #windows support territory.. but just to complete it, i'll say you need to boot from windows install cd, then depending on windows version ( xp or vista/7 ) theres a # of things to do	15:02
kiamo	dr_willis, boxee looks intresting	15:02
roy__	can someone help me with that?	15:02
ActionParsnip	Assid: does that have a pxe server and tftp server installed?	15:03
iVictor	I didn't try holding shift key & booting to earlier version. Though, right now, I am logged in to 2.6.32.32 (recovery).	15:03
brahmana	XLV: ok.. so essentially no way of doing from Ubuntu then?	15:03
dr_willis	kiamo: i bought a boxee device the other day for $200. does netflix and a lot moar. smaller then a mini pc also	15:03
XLV	brahmana, none	15:03
AcidRain	hmmm	15:03
roy_	?	15:03
AcidRain	the drive mounted properly this time	15:03
Assid	ActionParsnip i think so.. it does let me set the filename and rootpath for any fixed leases i want to setup	15:03
brahmana	XLV: ok.. thank you	15:03
ActionParsnip	iVictor: if it boots to the older version then run: sudo update-grub	15:03
Assid	ActionParsnip can we take this in pm	15:03
AcidRain	but i have one last question. in ubuntu, when i create a sym link. how can i make the contents of that link accessible through the home dir of an ftp server	15:04
ActionParsnip	Assid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer	15:04
roy_	guys since fglrx gives me lots of issues	15:04
ActionParsnip	Assid: I dont support in PM	15:04
roy_	i want to try open source drivers	15:04
roy_	can someone help me install it properly and configure it?	15:04
AcidRain	i have the sym link in the home ftp server dir now. but it says no such file or dir	15:04
dr_willis	AcidRain: ftp server may need some 'follow symlinks' setting enabled	15:04
AcidRain	hmmm... ill check it out	15:04
iVictor	ActionParsnip: Before I could boot normally to 2.6.32.32 (recovery), I've had to do a update-grub. So essentially, I've already done update-grub.	15:04
AcidRain	that would be in config right?	15:04
kiamo	dr_willis, can it play 1080p mkvs of a smb share easily enough?	15:04
dr_willis	kiamo: should do it.	15:05
Assid	okay so i need a tftp server	15:05
AcidRain	i use ftpdpro	15:05
CloudBlue	help, my home dir is screwed... when i log in a message pops up that ¨it does not appear to exist¨ and i would like root to be my home dir...	15:06
AcidRain	it has a little buggy gftpdpro admin gui	15:06
dr_willis	kiamo: it does samba well and 1080p i belive. and can play mkv. but iv no 1080p videos that i know of	15:06
Assid	AcidRain you use a diskless setup?	15:06
BluesKaj	kiamo, personally I found xbmc clunky to use , too many menus to do what you want ...I prefer the simplicity of vlc , which is very configurable , and works well for our HT on this media server pc	15:06
dr_willis	CloudBlue: you mean /root? or /	15:06
AcidRain	yeah. its in repos	15:07
CloudBlue	yes slash root (/root)	15:07
kiamo	BluesKaj, you use vlc for your HT? Presumably running on ubuntu and just browse for the media you want?	15:07
dr_willis	kiamo: boxee and xbmc have android phone remote apps also. so does vlc.. check out gmote also if using android.	15:07
dr_willis	kiamo: i use vlc that way also. depends on my mood	15:07
CloudBlue	then when i logged into another account the folder shows up as a empty file	15:07
rocket16	Hello guys. I got my new Dell Inspirion 14R today and after installing Ubuntu 11.04, it says "Warning, this partitio is misaligned by 1024 bytes" in Disk utility. So, does it really affect performance?	15:08
dr_willis	CloudBlue: why not make a proper /home/username dir	15:08
BluesKaj	kiamo, yes altho I use kde ,but that's almost immaterial..we find vlc easy ..even wife can access and watch without grief :)	15:08
CloudBlue	make another one?	15:09
kiamo	dr_willis, I've got an android phone but no bluetooth on the pc. Does the remote use the wifi?	15:09
iVictor	any suggestions?	15:09
dr_willis	CloudBlue: each user has a /home/username dir owened by them. how did yours vanish?	15:09
kiamo	also, google results suggest a lot of stuttering on boxee for 1080p mkvs	15:09
dr_willis	kiamo: they all do it via wifi	15:10
kiamo	too bad, it was looking nice	15:10
kiamo	aaah excellent :)	15:10
dax_	Hi, does anyone know where I can find keyboard models for sony vaio? It currently doesn't recognize my right alt and ctrl keys	15:10
rocket16	Any help, guys?	15:10
CloudBlue	i dont know, all i know is it happened after my computer froze on the same account and i had to hard shut down	15:10
dr_willis	CloudBlue: i wouls suggest fscking the filesystems and remakiing a proper home dir then	15:11
freemoser	hi leute	15:11
iVictor	I updated ubuntu 2.6.32.32 to 2.6.32.33 and rebooted today. Since then, the system is not booting up. It throws error & drops to BusyBox.	15:12
kiamo	hmm	15:12
kiamo	ok, so how do I fix the xbmc repo version?	15:13
CloudBlue	yea i did fscking, but should i delete the empty file and create a new one, is that what your suggesting?	15:13
dr_willis	CloudBlue: what empty file? the home dir.. is a directory..	15:13
dr_willis	/home/yourusername	15:13
dr_willis	and it needs to be owned by your user also.	15:14
dr_willis	!chown	15:14
ubottu	An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	15:14
BluesKaj	kiamo, if you insist on xbmc , I suggest you join #xbmc-linux for help	15:14
kiamo	aaah thank you :)	15:15
roy_	guys can u help me out with something?	15:16
dr_willis	webupd8 blog site has a guide on installing xbmc. like 3 lines cut/paste	15:16
Traintop	roy_: depends on what you are thinking about... :-)	15:17
roy_	lol	15:17
roy_	ok	15:17
roy_	the issue is this, fglrx.so locks up my system after giving me two boom messages in kernel log	15:17
roy_	im running xubuntu 64bit 11.04	15:17
roy_	ati hd3850	15:17
roy_	and i decided to give the open source driver a try	15:18
Traintop	roy: sorry, but I have no knowledge about fglrx... :-(	15:18
roy_	but right now im stuck with software support only: OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer	15:18
Traintop	isn't there a whole channel for fglrx?	15:18
roy_	can u tell me its name?	15:19
roy_	actually i dont want fglrx anymore	15:19
roy_	i want the open source	15:19
farhad2161	how can i set a destionation folder for tar to extract file there.i want to untar a file from cd drive to /test/	15:19
roy_	i removed the fglrx	15:19
Traintop	farhad2161: then do "cd /test; tar -xvf /path/to/tar"	15:20
unop	farhad2161, tar xvf file.tar -C /path/to/extract/to	15:21
rocket16	Does a misaligned partition reduce performance in real?	15:21
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=== fairuz is now known as fairuz_
CloudBlue	um, how can i delete a file when i have no permission?	15:23
ilea	what program in need or how it is caled to see system info?	15:24
Monotoko	CloudBlue, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	15:24
Monotoko	ilea, which system info are you after?	15:25
Monotoko	there are several programs	15:25
ilea	i knew a program that ended with the word benchmark	15:25
ilea	with that i could see all the info	15:25
ilea	procesor	15:26
ilea	ram	15:26
ilea	video card	15:26
Guest61894	hi I am using lubuntu lxde I was wondrig if there is a auto login setting?	15:28
Guest61894	wondering	15:28
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: sure there is	15:29
darnel	how can i convert ppt to pdf at the command line?	15:29
ActionParsnip	darnel: I believe imagemagick may be able to	15:30
Guest61894	ActionParsnip I cant find it	15:30
darnel	ActionParsnip: how?	15:30
farhad2161	good	15:30
ActionParsnip	darnel: read the man page of: convert after you install imagemagick	15:30
darnel	ActionParsnip: can it do pptx also?	15:30
darnel	ActionParsnip: i think it cant	15:31
BluesKaj	darnel, http://askubuntu.com/questions/11130/how-can-i-convert-a-ppt-to-a-pdf-from-the-command-line	15:31
darnel	maybe pdf to ppt	15:31
snimavat	for my 64 bit processor, should i use 64 bit ubuntu or ? as the ubuntu site seems to recommend 32 bit	15:31
edbian	snimavat: go for 64 bit	15:32
snimavat	gret	15:32
edbian	snimavat: Sometimes there are some small hangups but not usually anymore	15:32
darnel	BluesKaj: that tool is obsolete an ddoesnt exist anymore	15:32
snimavat	one more thing, how do i setup wireless network between ubuntu and my win 7 laptop	15:32
snimavat	both are connected to a wireless router	15:32
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: gksudo leafpad /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf	15:33
edbian	snimavat: What are you trying to share between the two machines?	15:33
Traintop	snimavat: just go to "Network" in nautilus :-)(	15:33
snimavat	files and printer	15:33
Guest61894	ok thanks	15:33
snimavat	the main thing is, i want to share win7 files in linux and vice-versa	15:34
snimavat	Traintop: what after that ?	15:34
Traintop	snimavat: if you have installed samba you can easily browse the win-shares via network in nautilus; if you want to share dirs on your ubuntu-machine for win-machines right-click them and go to "Freigabeoptionen" don't know how this is called in english	15:35
=== Einstein` is now known as Wiz[a]rd
snimavat	okey	15:35
snimavat	let me try it, does any one know the english name for it, btw ?	15:35
Snicers-Work2	where do I set a custom lib path for php?	15:36
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Traintop	should be something like "share-options" or similar	15:36
ActionParsnip	snimavat: look into samba	15:36
Traintop	in german it's the third entry from the bottom of that context-menu	15:36
Guest61894	ActonParsnip thank you have the settings up what do i need to change auto login setting to	15:36
=== RtFM is now known as Guest27525
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: try READING the file...	15:38
Traintop	in german from bottom there are: "Eigenschaften, Senden an, Freigabeoptionen"	15:38
Traintop	so in english it should be: "Properties, Send to, Share...."	15:39
Guest61894	autologin=dgod read it	15:39
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: make sure it isn't commented out and autologin will happen	15:40
Guest61894	ok thank you	15:42
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: make sure the session is session=/usr/bin/startlxde	15:42
ActionParsnip	Guest61894: save the new file, reboot to test	15:42
=== Evixion` is now known as Evixion
AlfE1	hello	15:43
snimavat	shared it	15:43
snimavat	but still win7 doesnt see the folder.	15:43
AlfE1	where does network manager store vpn logs?	15:44
Traintop	snimavat: did you look for "Workgroup", the samba-shares are in this group	15:44
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: ok, so if i want to recompile php from source and overwrite my old compiled php what do I do?	15:45
Snicers-Work2	sorry	15:45
snimavat	Traintop: how do i do that ?	15:45
Beelsebob	Hey, OS X has a command "atos" that translates an address in either a process or a library to a string (i.e. will convert a function pointer to it's name) – is there a similar command under linux?	15:45
snimavat	i just did \\	15:45
snimavat	with the ip	15:46
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Well, if you installed PHP via a package, you should use "apt-get source php5" and then build yourself some custom .debs	15:46
Snicers-Work2	So I need to recompile apache and have it replace the old apt-get version of apache. How do I do this?	15:48
TML-prv	apt-get source apache2 && apt-get build-dep apache2	15:48
TML-prv	That will give you a source tree and all the build dependencies	15:48
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: I did that, it did not change the php configure command in phpinfo	15:49
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Recompiling Apache wouldn't change PHP, no	15:49
jrib	Snicers-Work2: why do you believe you need to recompile apache?	15:49
Snicers-Work2	jrib: I did not mean to type apache at all, I meant php5.	15:50
jrib	Snicers-Work2: why do you believe you need to recompile php5?	15:50
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Well, then you should be saying 'php5' instead of 'apache2' in my above suggestions, but jrib's question still bears merit	15:51
Snicers-Work2	jrib: Because I need to change the configure command, can I do this without recompiling php5? I was told I had to.	15:51
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Why do you need to change the configure command?	15:51
TML-prv	What's the real problem you're trying to solve with all of this/	15:51
jrib	Snicers-Work2: why? What is your end goal that the version in the repositories is not allowing you to accomplish?	15:51
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: Because I am including MSSQL library and was told it had to be included via the configure command line.	15:51
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: Freetds is not a part of PHP out of the box, I need to include it.	15:52
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: apt-get install php5-sybase	15:53
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: that has freetds?	15:53
isarl	I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, and now my computer won't start. I suspect it's due to the graphics - if I time it just right, I can Ctrl-Alt-F3 into a virtual terminal before the drivers load, but it's tricky timing. I'm using a LiveCD right now. How can I fix it?	15:53
isarl	I already tried removing my xorg.conf so that a new one would get autogenerated; no luck.	15:54
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Although, honestly, unixODBC is going to be a lot smooth for you than freetds.	15:54
petanilinux	hello all	15:54
TML-prv	s/smooth/smoother/	15:54
thrasher456	hello ^^	15:54
ActionParsnip	isarl: what video chip do you use?	15:54
petanilinux	some one can help me	15:54
isarl	ATi Radeon HD 5480, IIRC	15:55
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: I can work on unixODBC another day, this is just to apease the microsoft department.	15:55
isarl	*5450	15:55
petanilinux	i can't setting my printer	15:55
kz3	can wine support Photoshop CS5?	15:55
Pici	!appdb \| kz3	15:55
ubottu	kz3: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help	15:55
petanilinux	how to setting EPSON STYLUS OFFICE T30	15:55
petanilinux	?	15:55
petanilinux	on ubuntu	15:56
isarl	ActionParsnip: I have the ATi driver downloaded, but from within the LiveCD, a chroot to my hard drive isn't enough to get the installer working.	15:56
petanilinux	i didn't found driver for it	15:56
lok	Hi everyone ... does anybody now about the package Sip-Api-7.1 or can anyone help me to install serna ... it always tells me that I need this package ... I read that python-sip was a virtual package for sip-api-7.1 ... I've installed that already but still it asks for the sip-api-7.1 ... anyone got an idea?	15:56
AlfE1	where does network manager store the vpn logs?	15:56
bytesaber_work	How do I make smb mount point show up in ubuntu's nautilus as mounted drives?	15:57
Snicers-Work2	TML-prv: Do I need to restart a service after running 'apt-get install php5-sybase'?	15:57
TML-prv	Snicers-Work2: Well, at this point, I don't think this conversation belongs in #ubuntu - we can discuss the quality (or lack thereof) of PHP MSSQL drivers on Linux in ##PHP	15:57
ActionParsnip	petanilinux: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Epson/Epson-Stylus_Office_T30	15:57
Mindspider	Hey. I'm having a problem with Chromium on Ubuntu 11.04. For seemingly no reason it has started loading websites painfully slow, not at all or without any kind of style, just text. Other applications, including other browsers work fine.	15:57
petanilinux	ActionParsnip: thx brother	15:57
ActionParsnip	isarl: i'd uninstall theproprietary driver in the installed OS, then reboot and install thedriver	15:57
jason__	ActionParsnip thank you auto login now works	15:57
ActionParsnip	petanilinux: all I did was websearch.....	15:58
ActionParsnip	jason__: sweet	15:58
isarl	ActionParsnip: How do I do that? I can't even boot...	15:58
ActionParsnip	isarl: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root.No X server to get in the way	15:58
petanilinux	ActionParsnip: oke i am sorry.. brother	15:59
isarl	ActionParsnip: Thanks; I'll give that a try. Is that just for Grub2, or for classic as well?	15:59
petanilinux	thx all	15:59
zeroburn	hay all. I am experiencing a problem with getting apache to run. I installed ubuntu 10.04 32bit alternative install, followed by an install of xinit and xubuntu-desktop. I aslo installed apache2 (using synaptic) and then downloaded and installed webmin to administrate te server. But apache refuses to run. the only output in the terminal is: "no such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file logs/error_log. unable to open logs." then it exit	15:59
NielsMkn	Hey guys	15:59
ActionParsnip	isarl: you just need recovery mode root, get it however you normally would	15:59
coder21	pra	15:59
lok	Hi everyone ... does anybody now about the package Sip-Api-7.1 or can anyone help me to install serna ... it always tells me that I need this package ... I read that python-sip was a virtual package for sip-api-7.1 ... I've installed that already but still it asks for the sip-api-7.1 ... anyone got an idea?	16:00
isarl	ActionParsnip: cheers. If I'm not back in 10 minutes, it's because it's worked.	16:00
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NielsMkn	I don't wish to be a troll, but is xubuntu 11.04 more similar to gnome 2.6? I don't like unity but I want to stay with the latest release	16:00
szal	lok: what tells you to install that?	16:01
szal	!classic \| NielsMkn	16:01
ubottu	NielsMkn: The default interface in Ubuntu 11.04 is !Unity. To switch back to regular !GNOME: log out, click your username, click the Session box at the bottom of the screen, and select "Ubuntu Classic".	16:01
petanilinux	ActionParsnip : thx brother i am found driver for it	16:01
zeroburn	NielsMkn: its very simmilar to win 2000 and pre....	16:01
zeroburn	NielsMkn: the xubuntu interface...	16:02
lok	szal: apt-get or the software center, depending on which one I try it with ... it says there are unresolved dependecies	16:02
NielsMkn	ah is it true that the rollback option to gnome will be removed in 11.10?	16:02
zeroburn	NielsMkn: yep.. unfortunatly.. according to the ubuntu forums, Gnome3 wont support the "classic" desktop out the box.. needs to be installed seperately (or something simmilar to the clasic desktop)	16:03
dyd	i've downloaded a file in tar.gz	16:03
dyd	i suppose i have to unzip that in usr folder	16:03
dyd	how can i do that by command line?	16:03
NielsMkn	I hate both gnome 3 and unity :((	16:03
NielsMkn	I hate typing things everytime in search	16:04
surfdue	Hello, is there a way to make the system recognize extra space if its on avirtual machine without a restart	16:04
Pici	NielsMkn: GNOME isn't supporting gnome2 anymore, so we don't have much of a choice.	16:04
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: then use a different DE	16:04
coder21	i am using ubuntu 11.04 ,before i was using lucid 10.04 lts ,in that my graphics card was working 3d appearance were working but in 11.04 not working,any suggestions??	16:04
szal	lok: what *buntu version?	16:04
zeroburn	NielsMkn: wel.. haha i never flame windows, but atleast ubuntu gives you a chance to get used to the new desktop environment before making the full switch :)...	16:04
lok	szal: 11.04, natty	16:04
NielsMkn	well yeah :D	16:04
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: problem solved :D	16:05
szal	lok: a quick search suggests that Natty doesn't have sip-api-7.1, it has 8.0 and 8.1	16:05
NielsMkn	ActionParsnip, which DE?	16:05
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: KDE, LXDE, XFCE or just go with openbox, fluxbox etc ;)	16:06
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surfdue	hmm	16:06
NielsMkn	Well which one is most like gnome 2.6?	16:06
Neoncamouflage	KDE reminds me of Windows too much, it's irritating.	16:07
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: look at some screenshots, see which you like	16:07
NielsMkn	eh, I don't want my ubuntu to look like Windows :/	16:07
Neoncamouflage	Nor do I, why I used it for like 15 minutes and switched back to Gnome	16:07
lok	szal: thanks ... the problem is, now, can I use a former version or would that ruin other programms or how can I get serna ...	16:07
coder21	compiz manager,3D settings not working in ubuntu 11.04 natty	16:07
NielsMkn	Well ActionParsnip I looked at them, and found xfce similar :o	16:07
Reikoku	NielsMkn: LXDE is pretty GNOME-like	16:07
NielsMkn	not gnome 3 right? :O	16:08
szal	lok: what the ... is serna?	16:08
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: then use that, sudo apt-get install xfce4 log off, select xfce as the session and log in	16:08
Neoncamouflage	I have a question, how is Gnome pronounced? I've heard three different ways of saying it, is there an official pronunciation?	16:08
dcorking	the committer of the apt changelog I mentioned earlier tells me that the linked LP bug is private, which is why it is invisible to the web.	16:08
lok	szal: serna is a WYSIWYG xml editor ... actually the best open source one	16:08
NielsMkn	but right now, you guys told me it was like windows 2000 :O	16:08
NielsMkn	and I dont' want windows and definetely not an old one :P	16:08
Reikoku	Neoncamouflage: I pronounce it as in Gnome with a silent G	16:09
Reikoku	So nome	16:09
zeroburn	NielsMkn: follow the other guy's advice... google... lolz..	16:09
Neoncamouflage	I've always said it as like Gee-Nome.	16:09
Neoncamouflage	As does my friend	16:09
NielsMkn	doing that, just wanted your opinions as well :D	16:09
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: look at screenshots and try it, you can always add another panel if you like the double panel look	16:09
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Reikoku	NielsMkn: Try all of them out	16:10
NielsMkn	All of them :O	16:10
szal	!info serna	16:10
ubottu	serna (source: serna-free): Graphical XML editor. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.svn270-3ubuntu1 (natty), package size 52211 kB, installed size 92076 kB	16:10
surfdue	Hello, is there a way to make the system recognize extra space if its on avirtual machine without a restart	16:10
Reikoku	Pick the one you don't like	16:10
ActionParsnip	Neoncamouflage: Gnomes are little fictitious people	16:10
Reikoku	you like*	16:10
NielsMkn	lol why would I pick one I don't like :P	16:10
NielsMkn	oh	16:10
ActionParsnip	Neoncamouflage: I use lxde personally but I theme it so it looks like gnome :)	16:10
Reikoku	I'd try at least kde4, gnome 3, xfce 4 and lxde	16:10
zeroburn	NielsMkn: KDE is very win7/vista like... If you HAVE to compare... Unity people say is alot like osx.(dont know if this is true) but really, just theme it?	16:10
Neoncamouflage	ActionParsnip: My desktop is fictitious? O.o	16:10
ActionParsnip	Neoncamouflage: just its name	16:10
Reikoku	I like fluxbox lol	16:11
zeroburn	surfdue: please explain your question in more detail?	16:11
NielsMkn	so what do you guys use?	16:11
Pici	!poll	16:11
ubottu	Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	16:11
Reikoku	I like unity too, but can't get it over here	16:11
ActionParsnip	NielsMkn: in short, there is more selection of desktop in Ubuntu. More than just Gnome, I'd try a few and review	16:11
Reikoku	NielsMkn: FluxBox or xfce or e17 I use	16:11
szal	lok: file a bug	16:11
Reikoku	Right now xfce4	16:12
lok	szal: sorry, I don't understand	16:12
Reikoku	But I don't like panels, period	16:12
NielsMkn	can I try them in ubuntu maverick as well?	16:12
NielsMkn	Using it right now	16:12
Neoncamouflage	I use Gnome 2.x with both panels on autohide. I like it as minimalistic as possible.	16:12
Reikoku	NielsMkn: You might have to find a 3rd party repo to try the latest builds	16:14
Reikoku	But on the whole yes	16:14
NielsMkn	or just adapt to unity... :s	16:15
Reikoku	lol so many people hate unity	16:15
Reikoku	I love it :P	16:16
* szal never tried it & probably never will		16:16
Neoncamouflage	I've been refusing to upgrade just because of all the Unity hate. I like Gnome and I'm keeping it.	16:16
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NielsMkn	I tried it and hate it	16:16
* szal just uses KDE		16:16
* Neoncamouflage shudders at the thought of KDE		16:17
szal	all the way back to 2003 (3.2)	16:17
NielsMkn	Why did it change the menu bar at the top ? :(	16:17
Reikoku	I don't like kde at all but DEs are an aesthetics thing	16:17
Reikoku	e17 has been my favourite DE so far	16:17
Neoncamouflage	never even heard of that, will have to look it up	16:18
femi	can someone help me?	16:18
* szal would have a hard time w/o all the kioslaves		16:18
zeroburn	Neoncamouflage: its ALOT like osx	16:18
szal	femi: with what?	16:18
NielsMkn	enlightenment?	16:18
femi	installed this flashplugin-nonfree. Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package)	16:19
NielsMkn	no screenshots on their site :/	16:19
Reikoku	Enlightenment DR17 yes	16:19
femi	and now I can't remove it	16:19
Reikoku	Not the stable one (e16)	16:19
dirk69	#xborg	16:19
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szal	Reikoku: will E17 ever come out of development state? ;)	16:20
femi	when I try to remove it gives me an error	16:21
Reikoku	szal: I'm really not sure	16:21
Reikoku	femi: What's the error? :P	16:22
femi	installArchives() failed: dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already Errors were encountered while processing: flashplugin-nonfree	16:22
szal	femi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree	16:23
femi	okay	16:24
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rstaples	hello	16:24
femi	Reading package lists... Done	16:24
femi	Building dependency tree	16:24
femi	Reading state information... Done	16:24
femi	You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:	16:24
femi	The following packages have unmet dependencies:	16:24
femi	flashplugin-nonfree : Depends: flashplugin-installer but it is not going to be installed	16:24
casey		16:24
FloodBot1	femi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	16:24
coder21	compiz settings manager not working in ubuntu 11.04 natty,so extra visual effects not getting enabled,i use dell studio 1558 with 1Gb AMD graphics card installed	16:25
dirk69	i have installed "flash-aid" for	16:25
rstaples	does anyone know of a ubuntu/linux equivalent command to windows {windows-s} for screen captures?	16:25
Guest14388	Would anyone be able to tell me what line to add to the below fstab file if my goal is to mount /dev/sba: # /etc/fstab: static file system information.	16:25
Guest14388	#	16:25
Guest14388	# Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier	16:25
Guest14388	# for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name	16:25
Guest14388	# devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).	16:25
FloodBot1	Guest14388: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.	16:25
Guest14388	#	16:25
femi	...that thing muted me	16:25
dirk69	firefox and i have never flashprobs	16:26
szal	femi: now read the bot message & guess why..	16:26
NielsMkn	later guys	16:26
jihaduallah	hello, are ubuntu custom keyboard shortcuts actually working for anyone ? because all i'm getting is this type of error: ''Error while trying to run (F) which is linked to the key (<Control><Alt>f)''	16:26
rstaples	does anyone know of a ubuntu/linux equivalent command to windows {windows-s} for screen captures?	16:27
szal	femi: and, for a change, read what you pasted -> [18:24:55] <femi> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:	16:27
ActionParsnip	Guest14388: you can't mount /dev/sdb	16:27
skegeek	I want to assign my http server user home directory to an unusual location, but also have it accessible via the standard location. Is it wise to use a symlink under /home/ pointing to the real location or is that looking for trouble?	16:28
jason__	is gnash player able to play youtube videos sometime since I tried it ubuntu 9,04 i think	16:28
Guest14388	ActionParsnip Thanks. Is there no way to see my secondary harrdive then?	16:28
ActionParsnip	jason__: have you tried minitube?	16:28
coder21	compiz settings manager not working in ubuntu 11.04 natty,so extra visual effects not getting enabled,i use dell studio 1558 with 1Gb AMD graphics card installed	16:28
ActionParsnip	Guest14388: yes, you mount the partitions	16:28
ramsesqwanell	jai créé mon serveur jabber et jai installé gajim sur une autre machine. comment lenregistrer sur mon serveur svp?	16:28
szal	!fr \| ramsesqwanell	16:28
ubottu	ramsesqwanell: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.	16:28
ActionParsnip	Guest14388: the first partition is /dev/sdb1	16:28
HackerII	rstaples ctrl+ptr/scr	16:29
jason__	minitube? not heard of it	16:29
ActionParsnip	!info minitube	16:29
femi	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	16:29
ubottu	minitube (source: minitube): Native YouTube client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-1 (natty), package size 445 kB, installed size 1268 kB	16:29
Anon1234	Hi, I've got a problem with unity not working after switching the graphics card. It works from any live media, but not on the previous installation	16:29
szal	femi: when doing what?	16:29
HackerII	rstaples sry its tab+ prt/scr	16:29
Anon1234	Also the session startup time has become extremely long	16:29
jason__	ok i wil giv it a go thanks	16:29
Guest14388	ActionParsnip I can see the first harddrive and the second physical harddrive is not partitioned. ...okay, clearly this will require more reading. Can you suggest where to start?	16:30
femi	sudo apt-get -f install	16:30
Panarchy	hi	16:30
ActionParsnip	Anon1234: then run: dmesg \| less and look for large gaps in time (left hand colomn is the time since boot in seconds)	16:30
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: ok	16:30
ActionParsnip	Guest14388: look into gparted	16:30
Guest14388	ActionParsnip Thanks will do!	16:31
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: The gaps are at most a few seconds,	16:32
Panarchy	How do I add a custom location to the Ubuntu 11.04 dock?	16:32
fonfy	Can anyone advice about installing drivers for Nvidia GeForce GT 540M on ubuntu 10.10 LTS ?	16:32
ActionParsnip	Anon1234: did you read the full log?	16:32
aikInsaan	hey folks...I have upgraded to natty from maverick hoping to use Unity....but I am still on the classic gnome	16:32
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: yes	16:32
ActionParsnip	Panarchy: do you mean unity?	16:32
Panarchy	yeah	16:33
ActionParsnip	Anon1234: I'd read slower	16:33
ActionParsnip	Panarchy: its currently immovable	16:33
Neoncamouflage	Does anyone know how to make an application launcher that runs with java? I tried the command to run it with java as a prefix but it didn't work.	16:33
Panarchy	No, I mean, I want to add /home/projects to that dock	16:33
Panarchy	Neoncamouflage: You can just wrap it in C	16:33
Neoncamouflage	Panarchy: I don't know C	16:34
Phr3d13	Panarchy, scroll to the bottom there's a add location thing i think	16:34
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fonfy	how do I tell Ubuntu 10.10 LTS where to look for nvidia drivers, or do I have to do this manually?	16:34
Panarchy	Phr3d13: But I already have the Home folder on the dock, I want an extra folder link for my Projects folder	16:34
aikInsaan	hey folks...I have upgraded to natty from maverick hoping to use Unity....but I am still on the classic gnome	16:34
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: It is rather short. And I was mainly looking for the gaps. They are mainly around remounting	16:34
sandetri	it would be under system	16:34
ActionParsnip	Panarchy: I've seen a replacemenr /usr/share/applications which you can add entries to the right click menu	16:35
Neoncamouflage	aikInsann-When on the login screen there'll be an option to change from gnome classic to Unity.	16:35
Panarchy	Neoncamouflage: It'll only take a minute, find someone elses wrapper and have some fun	16:35
sandetri	system> Admin> addtiaonl srivers	16:35
szal	aikInsaan: educated guess: log out, select your user, choose Session Type "Unity" (or whatever it's called), log in	16:35
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Phr3d13	Panarchy, i'd have to log into my unity, but as far as i know, down at the bottom of the unity sidebar, there's options to add stuff to it	16:36
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: now after a long time (1548s) there's another thing: [drm:drm_mode_getfb] ERROR invalid framebuffer id	16:36
yuvateja	may create buttons and textboxs and combo boxes in shell scripting?	16:36
fonfy	how do I tell Ubuntu 10.10 LTS where to look for nvidia drivers, or do I have to do this manually?	16:36
aikInsaan	szal: thanks...i'll give that a go	16:36
aikInsaan	Neoncamouflage: tx	16:36
Panarchy	HOW DO I ADD /home/Projects to my UBUNTU DOCK!?	16:36
szal	!caps \| Panarchy	16:37
ubottu	Panarchy: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	16:37
nit-wit	Panarchy, drag the folder to the dock	16:37
Panarchy	!rage \| szal	16:37
Phr3d13	fonfy, System > Administration > Additional Drivers	16:37
aikInsaan	szal: unity isn't listed under session type	16:37
Panarchy	nit-wit: Drag didn't work :\	16:38
yuvateja	may create buttons and textboxs and combo boxes in shell scripting?	16:38
ActionParsnip	Anon1234: ok then see what that means online	16:38
Panarchy	yuvateja: Sure, in Perl	16:38
Phr3d13	Panarchy, scroll to the bottom of the sidebar and there's two add stuff options	16:38
szal	aikInsaan: what _is_ listed there?	16:38
meg_	:0	16:38
Panarchy	Phr3d13: Can't see that option :\	16:39
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: it seems it's a problem with nouveau drivers. But I've got an ATI card, not nVidia	16:40
yuvateja	panarchy: not possible in shell script	16:40
ActionParsnip	Panarchy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/646628/ here is mine, I can right click and the extra entries appear :)	16:41
wcchandler_work	When messing with SLES or RHEL during the install I have an option to use network based logins. Is that possible on Ubuntu? Is it trivial?	16:41
Phr3d13	Panarchy, try opening what you want to add and then find it in the sidebar, right click on it, select keep in launcher	16:41
ActionParsnip	Anon1234: could blacklist the nouveau driver, may help	16:41
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: Alright, I'll see	16:41
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: But it doesn't even seem to be loaded right now. The only ones related to graphics are fglrx and radeon	16:42
Panarchy	Phr3d13: That's what I was planning on doing, but since I already have a nautilus shortcut in the dock (for Home) I can't add a second one for \home\projects	16:42
yuvateja	panarchy: is n't possible in shell script ?	16:43
tertl3	lol	16:43
Anon1234	ActionParsnip: Also, this seems to appear in the log everytime I switch sessions (or whatever it's called, jsut ctrl+alt+f1/f7)	16:43
Phr3d13	how do i register my nick here?	16:44
fonfy	Could someone advise me about getting Nvidia drivers running in Ubuntu 10.10 LTS. I tried System->Adminstration->Hardware Drivers and nothing is listed	16:44
ActionParsnip	!register \| Phr3d13	16:44
Anon1234	And the big problem is that gnome-panel doesn't appear	16:44
ubottu	Phr3d13: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode	16:44
ActionParsnip	fonfy: which nvidia chip?	16:44
[snake]	can you get atlantis2 plugin for compiz on ubuntu 10.04 x86_64	16:44
Phr3d13	fonfy, what ubuntu version?	16:45
fonfy	ActionParsnip, its NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M 2GB VRAM	16:45
ActionParsnip	fonfy: sudo apt-get -y install nvidia-current	16:45
fonfy	ActionParsnip, stickers also says GEFORCE GT540M CUDA 2 GB	16:45
saturn6962	Does anyone know if the brcm80211 broadcom wireless drivers still need to be patched for full functionality with pen testing tools?	16:45
aikInsaan	hello again...i was talking about enabling unity on natty when my battery died	16:46
fonfy	ActionParsnip, its running. I'm praying it works	16:46
ActionParsnip	!info nvidia-current maverick	16:46
ubottu	nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 260.19.06-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 25690 kB, installed size 76364 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)	16:46
fonfy	ActionParsnip, just bought a brand new Acer Aspire 5755G laptop	16:46
ActionParsnip	fonfy: you may need the xorg edger updates ppa to get the 270 driver	16:47
Lok	Hi, can anyone tell me if I can have two version of the same package on my pc ... I would need sip-api-7.1 but I already have sip-api-8.1 and I am not sure whether 8.1 is needed by other packages so I can't just remove it	16:47
fonfy	ActionParsnip, i'll be happy to just get the 1366 pixel resolution resolved	16:47
fonfy	ActionParsnip, i'm locked to 1024	16:47
ikonia	Lok: how have you got 2 versions of the same package on the PC ?	16:47
Phr3d13	Yay I'm registered!	16:47
Guest14388	Question: What type of formatting should I give to my secondary harddrive if I want to use it as a mirror/backup for my primary drive?	16:48
ActionParsnip	fonfy: the driver will help a lot. You are currently using the open driver	16:48
Lok	ikonia: I haven't ... I have 8.1 cause it is in the package repositories, but for another programm I would need a former one	16:48
aikInsaan	so the options on the log in screen are 'ubuntu' 'recovery console' 'ubuntu classic' 'ubuntu safe mode' 'user defined'	16:48
Rudolf_	Y i dont get the option of 'install ubuntu alongside windows 7' while installing ubuntu?	16:48
[snake]	can you get atlantis2 plugin for compiz on ubuntu 10.04 x86_64?	16:48
fonfy	ActionParsnip, you mean the previous sudo apt-get recommendation may fix the problem?	16:48
Guest14388	gparted does not seem to hande ext4 which is what my primary harddrive is	16:48
ikonia	Lok: do you have any ide of the software you want to use needs that specific version or a minimum of that version ?	16:48
aikInsaan	there is no option for unity...and i have tried these options...unity isn't one of them	16:49
ActionParsnip	fonfy: the command I gave installs the driver for you	16:49
Phr3d13	aikInsaan, i believe ubuntu if the 'unity' option	16:49
Lok	ikonia: you mean if I know what it is? or if I know the source?	16:49
ikonia	Lok: what software do you want to use ?	16:49
aikInsaan	Phr3d13: that's what I thought....turns out it isn't	16:49
[snake]	can you get atlantis2 plugin for compiz on ubuntu 10.04 64bit?	16:49
Lok	ikonia: Serna ... it is a graphical xml editor... the best i know acutally and I did not find any equivalent free alternative	16:50
Phr3d13	aikInsaan, if you don't have a good enough card/the right drivers the unity interface won't show up	16:50
aikInsaan	Phr3d13: i read somewhere that there are some hardware requirements	16:50
fonfy	ActionParsnip, I tried running the drivers directly from the nvidia website before. it was a shell script but it didn't seem to work. I guess the apt-get maybe works nicer because its aimed directly for ubuntu right? (its nearly finished downloading)	16:50