=== hacked is now known as vinces [01:05] i need some help...there is no sound on vlc youtube or amarok...and ive tried installing other video players and they dont work either...i uninstalled pulseaudio and nothing worked...i dont know what else to do... [01:08] i need some help...there is no sound on vlc youtube or amarok...and ive tried installing other video players and they dont work either...i uninstalled pulseaudio and nothing worked...i dont know what else to do... [01:19] ncfi1013__, uninstall pulseaudio then open a terminal and type alsamixer ,,let's start with that [01:30] blueskaj... i already uninstalled everything that had an 'i' next to it for pulseaudio...and alsamixer is open [01:34] blueskaj...i just installed aumix...will that work also? [01:34] ncfi1013__, make sure your vol ctrls aren't muted , use the M ket to unmute or mute depending on your needs , and use the arrow keys to navigate turn the vol up or down [01:35] blueskaj...nothing is muted... [01:41] I don't know about aumix . never used it ...ok ncfi1013_ open system settings>multimedia>phonon ...can you show us a screenshot in imagebin , so we can figure out what we're working with [01:42] blueskaj...i uninstalled aumix...didnt work... [01:42] hello [01:42] can someone help me ? [01:43] KOffice is no flashing dance [01:43] im still here...i just closed konversation... [01:44] When i type some keys, there isn't any flasing dance [01:44] I don't know it is lying anywhere to type [01:49] !vn | duytruong [01:49] duytruong: Để được trợ giúp về Ubuntu bằng ngôn ngữ Việt, xin vui lòng /join #ubuntu-vn. Rất vui lòng được giúp đỡ [01:49] blueskaj...heres the screenshot, http://imagebin.org/163736 [01:50] thanks [01:53] woot [01:54] blueskaj...heres the snapshot for alsamixer, http://imagebin.org/163737 [01:54] ncfi1013__, click on the hw at the top and move it to the bottom , then run the test button on each remaining intel [01:55] I asked but no one answer me [01:56] ncfi1013__, did you turn up the volume ctrls in alsamixer ? [01:56] all of them work and im getting system sounds but im still getting no sounds from vlc because it is open right now... [01:57] duytruong, you are using a translator that isn't working very well [01:58] blueskaj...are you talking about both of the master volume controls? [01:58] blueskaj...if so they are both turned up to 100... [01:59] blueskaj...if not...will you be more specific? [02:00] ncfi1013__, the intel option device at the top in phonon has to match the vlc audio , in vlc tools>preferences>audio ,choose alsa audio output [02:03] then just below that on the device tab , make sure the device is the as the one in phonon ,,,run the cursor over the phonon intel and make sue the dev= the same as vlc device [02:05] how to see package non updated [02:05] in phonon...intel ICH (intel ICH)...in vlc...i selected default and it worked...so thanks...im getting sound now... [02:06] blueskaj...youve been a great help...thanks... [02:07] ...im still here... [02:07] ncfi1013__, , cool , glad to hear it :) [02:08] ive been up since 6 pm trying to figure it out...thanks... [02:11] ncfi1013__, was it you I tried to help earlier today , but got sidetracked [02:11] ? [02:12] yep same person... [02:12] i tried to figure it out this morning but got tired and went to sleep...i work at night... [02:14] Koffice doesnt show flash when typing, also not be bold by mouse [02:14] ok, sometimes those things happn ....ahem we have knowlegeable ppl who try to help but are not quite sure ho to analyze [02:14] ho=how [02:15] duytruong, sorry I don't understand [02:16] dont worry the typing mistakes i understand without the need for correction...i used to text with a nine key phone...now i have a full virtual keyboard... [02:17] i have to go...i have to get ready for work now...thanks for your help... [02:19] :) ...seldom text , believe it or not I'm not much of a gadget/mobile freak .... it's of very little interest to me,. We have a cell of course , but just use for necessary quick calls [02:20] Well, I have an error in Koffice [02:21] That's mouse cursor when I type [02:21] It's not appear [02:22] I haven't got any orientation for typing [02:28] I see BlueKaj not to enthusiasm as the other people that I know [02:28] bye bye [03:04] has 4.7 rc ppa been released for kde yet? [04:09] it is a little late, is anyone around??? how can I get .xsessions-errors to be less reported too? [04:09] I had to reboot since my .xsession-errors file had grown to over 15GB again [06:15] Anyone alive ? [06:15] wrong question [06:16] Can someone help me :) [06:17] I am having problems installing a plugin.. [06:17] *sigh* why can't ppl be specific from the start.. [06:18] simple-ccsm [06:18] ok im sorry [06:18] Depends: python-compizconfig (>= 0.8.2) but it is not going to be installed [06:18] Depends: compizconfig-settings-manager (>= 0.8.2) but it is not going to be installed [06:18] E: Broken packages [06:19] i even auto removed but it didnt make a diffrence [06:19] sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get autoremove [06:21] You there ? === yann is now known as Guest51071 [06:30] !info simple-ccsm [06:30] simple-ccsm (source: simple-ccsm): Simple Compizconfig settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 50 kB, installed size 620 kB [06:31] Also im new to NIX where do i enter the wget commands [06:32] For downloading in the terminal ? [06:33] well, in the terminal? ;) [06:33] other than that, I smell a packaging bug [06:34] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [06:34] compiz-core: Breaks: simple-ccsm (< 0.9) but 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed. [06:35] plus, why would you want Compiz anyway? KDE users don't need Compiz, as KWin does compositing on its own & not bad at that [06:35] configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH [06:36] sudo apt-get install build-essential [06:38] i wanted to cube my desktop [06:41] configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent [06:44] what are you building anyway? [06:44] http://www.abload.de/img/20110719_syssett-effec871w.png <- Cube [06:44] xchat [06:44] oh bitch x [06:44] my fault [06:45] BitchX is heavily deprecated [06:45] so what do you suggest === aaron1 is now known as Guest78664 [06:46] Konversation, Quassel, KVIrc, X-Chat, Irssi, Weechat... [06:47] i am ussing Quassel i cannot connect to multiple servers [06:47] why not? [06:48] im not sure how [06:48] i tried to add them [06:48] and did... [06:48] it they wouldn't give me an option to swtich between them [06:48] or show me they were connected [06:49] xchat w00t [06:50] hey how do i do an upgrade because it wont give me an option like it used to [06:50] help [06:51] FED Fedora GNU/Linux [06:51] ? [06:51] for XCHAT [06:52] sudo apt-get update unknown212 [06:52] ill try that but i dont think it will work [06:53] xchats a simpler nicer irc client imho [06:54] it didnt work i get no notice to upgrade my lucid [06:54] im still stuck on lucid [06:54] i used to get update notices to upgrade to newer versions [06:55] lemme c [06:55] unknown212, maybe this page is any help > http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/upgrade-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-command-line/ [06:56] looks absolutely good here; set up IRCnet via preset & connected via right-click [06:58] love dragon player we just need to add a "couple" options. [06:59] SimpleMinded: http://www.abload.de/img/20110719_fullscreenvigd.png [07:02] what files I should translate in order to complete Kubuntu installer in my language? [07:03] SimpleMinded: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37829/simple-ccsm-wont-install [07:05] oerheks gj that i think wil do it how much room do i need im almost downloading a 10 gig file and have not much room [07:05] i have about 2 gigs [07:05] using df -h [07:06] im going to move that ten gig file to a cd but is 2 gigs enough to upgrade [07:06] to "a" CD? :o [07:07] a couple dvds [07:07] 60% upgraded [07:08] talking about pushing the limits lol [07:08] perhaps you shouldn't do everything at once [07:08] lol [07:08] or, rather, at the same time [07:08] lol [07:09] SimpleMinded: have you dropped dead now? [07:09] ok im good only 989m [07:09] to upgrade [07:09] now if for some reason my comp wasnt so slow i would hack the planet [07:09] lol [07:09] if i could [07:09] no im trying to install xchat [07:10] you say that like you would enjoy it [07:10] lol [07:10] what's there to try? -> sudo apt-get install xchat [07:10] did it already [07:10] i can't get in to the file path [07:10] to make clean [07:10] and configure [07:10] SimpleMinded: you don't need to build it [07:10] *sigh* [07:10] oo [07:11] ok sorry i am a linux noob [07:11] who works for kubuntu here [07:11] SimpleMinded: _all_ you need to do is install it via package management (: [07:11] unknown212: why asking? [07:11] SimpleMinded: rule #1: everything you'll ever want is in the package management; only if it isn't, it's time to look elsewhere [07:11] because i want to know who actually works for kubuntu and who just helps to help [07:12] i never can tell [07:12] unknown212: ah, this channel isn't serving for such polls [07:12] polls? [07:12] might not be the right term, but it is irrelevant (: [07:12] SimpleMinded: other than that, I demonstrated to you that it's very well possible and easy to overview connecting to multiple servers in Quassel (see screenshot posted by vzduch) [07:13] ok im on xchat [07:13] then what do you mean t [07:13] :F [07:13] unknown212: let's continue on #kubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for support [07:14] tm t check other channel [07:18] huh? did I break KSnapshot, or does it have a bug not snapping when set to 'Window under cursor' and trying to snap Quassel? (Natty 32bit, KDE 4.6.5) [07:19] it only takes empty snapshots (1360x1077 = larger than my screen) === ocs is now known as faLUCE [07:22] KSnapshot 64bit works as expected [07:23] does anyone know anything about r [07:23] http://www.abload.de/img/20110719_fullscreen21jse.png [07:23] !anyone [07:23] A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [07:25] what is r [07:27] unknown212: what exactly you're asking? [07:29] im asking what is the benefit of using R [07:29] i want to use and saw a book [07:30] thought it looked interesting [07:31] ah, you're asking on a wrong channel (: [07:31] which channel [07:33] unknown212: unfortunately I don't know, you might try asking some programming-related channels in #defocus perhaps? [07:36] *scratches head* it looks as if the 'Window under cursor' setting in KSnapshot doesn't work on 32bit; it tries to capture an area larger than the screen resulting in an image that contains only transparency; no problem on 64bit [08:01] Im trying to set up a server and having trouble getting dhcp3-server and nfs-kernel-server going... anyone able to lend a hand? === dev_ is now known as dev96 === niels__ is now known as nielsbusch === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [09:47] hi, is anyone able to use compiz w/ fglrx in natty? [09:59] I just intsalled natty and need a dhcp server. [09:59] tried dhcp3-server but can't seem to get it to start [10:00] JuJuBee_: you need a valid config file for it to start === OMaxis is now known as Omaxis-AFK [10:05] ikonia: I have one, I think, it is the one I was using before I installed 11.04 [10:16] nm, I figured it out, dhcp3-server doesn't seem to work with nattty, need isc-dhcp-server === booster is now known as Guest59409 [10:28] hi all, I've just switch to 'netbook' workspace type, It's kool, but I can't find anyway to shutdown/restart my box without command === Guest59409 is now known as Peace- [10:29] search log out [10:30] thanks, Peace :D [10:30] vietred: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/19/plasma-desktopvs1479.jpg [10:30] Peace-, now I can understand why my friend say this workspace type is 'search-oriented' [10:31] well kde can be gnome3 oriented [10:31] gnome2 oriented [10:31] kde standard , netbook [10:31] as you want [10:32] it can be pretty similar with unity too [10:32] wow [10:32] http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/unity-kde-another-test/ [10:34] vietred: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/27/UNity.gif [10:35] Peace-: I think I have a new toy ;)) [10:36] vietred: if you prefer gnome2 style---- https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lhtrp_BC7V8/TY-PU-GVb7I/AAAAAAAAAS4/TVY1FzRPktI/s800/GNOMIFIED.png [10:36] vietred: mac ? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uUottOsTyI4/TcROLoOeJzI/AAAAAAAAAS4/QguuZT6IlRk/s800/snapshot1.png [10:37] or maybe xfce ? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yZ8buc1cwiQ/TZa_NmMtX_I/AAAAAAAAAS4/66vup--LwSw/s800/lxded.png [10:37] xD [10:37] how about lxde? :)) [10:37] the last one is more like lxde [10:38] than xfce i guess :) [10:38] the point it's that if you configure well kde it can be as you want [10:38] it's more like xfce with lxde start button :D [10:38] well maybe :) [10:39] vietred: there is an application for panels [10:39] you can just run and you should be enable to run mac unity gnome2 and another panels [10:39] with a click [10:40] what is that app? [10:40] the mine one [10:40] xD [10:40] I'll try that right now :D [10:41] vietred: http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gnome-defaltt-panel-kde.gif [10:41] vietred: read this http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=94534 [10:42] note that 11.10 alpha2 you could have problems [10:46] Peace-: I'm thinking of fooling someone that I'm using Win7 :)) [10:47] Peace-: It's summer break so I have lots of time in my hand xD [10:49] vietred: note that you need to install all plasma-wdgets [10:49] sudo apt-get install plasma-widget* [10:53] wow, 200mb to download [12:09] hi i have a problem, http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8903/cran1.png there is a black line on top of the task bar. how can i fix that? [12:38] Hiyas [12:42] wc === hein is now known as Guest21683 === jscappini is now known as MythicGod [13:46] Hello [13:47] Is there someone here ? [13:47] BluesKaj_: lots of people are ^^ [13:47] Can you help me ? [13:48] BluesKaj_: not if you dont ask a question [13:48] Nice to meet you [13:48] Haha [13:48] BluesKaj_, go [13:49] I install xwDFast Downloader on 32 bit [13:49] but it doesn't work [13:50] BluesKaj_: anything wrong with kget? [13:50] Kget's good [13:51] I used to install it on 64 bit, i work well [13:51] It works well [13:52] xwDFast doesn’t look like its been maintained since 2007 ^^ [13:52] uhm [13:53] I can try with Multiget or any download software [13:53] can you tell some example ? [13:54] BluesKaj_: why not just use kget? [13:54] yes [13:55] James147, that person is not me btw ..dunno how he got use my nick with just a _ after it === e is now known as Guest82073 [13:55] haha [13:55] BluesKaj: I noticed :) [13:55] i hate BluesKaj [13:56] but i like nick BluesKaj [13:56] -.- [13:57] * Peace- is on alpha2 [13:57] hi [13:57] you can reserve 3 nicks on freenode for yourself, not more, so you can't do much against this... [13:57] note: yofel, yofel_ and kyofel are me :P [13:57] does anybody know if there is any packaged (deb) version of KDE 4.7 RC? [13:58] i already searched my ass off [13:58] Zwulf: only for oneiric, and even there some parts are missing (mainly gwenview and kate) [13:58] damn... thanks yofel [13:59] Zwulf: normally gets announced at http://www.kubuntu.org/news when/if if becomes available for released version [14:00] sure, i know, but sometimes there are some not official ppas of single persons... [14:02] anyway... one week is bearable ;) [14:02] Hello, BluesKaj loves everybody la la la [14:03] BluesKaj_: Please stop. [14:03] = ='' [14:04] Alright [14:19] hehe .. , another one for the ignore list === BluesKaj is now known as help === BluesKaj is now known as BluesKaj_ === BluesKaj_ is now known as BluesKaj === BluesKaj is now known as _BluesKaj === _BluesKaj is now known as BluesKaj === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [15:27] Kann mir jemand sagen, wer die Fensteranordnung bei KDE vornimmt? Wenn ich ein Prg starte, werden die bestehenden Fenster verkleinert oder Halbiert, sprich automatisch angeordnet. Das hätte ich gerne abgeschaltet === marc is now known as Guest92819 [15:30] Hi Everyone. I'm running 11.04 and applied the recent qt update. Kmail and Kopete will not work properly anymore. Kopete will not sign in to any account, and Kmail will not open the main window. Accessing kmail from the message tray will bring up a blank window with a squished (single row) imap folder list. Does anyone have this problem or know how I could rollback qt? [15:31] hello, sry my english is very bad, but i try it. i have a netbook and with kubuntu he dont find the wifi card. in windxxx is all ok [15:33] Do you know what kind of wifi card you have? Chances are you need to go to k->applications->system->additional drivers and activate a proprietary driver. [15:34] yes. its a intel wireless n130 [15:34] in additional drivers is empty, i think that he dont know that the card is inside [15:36] can you do an lspci and paste the "wireless adapter" line here? [15:36] (I'm not a kubuntu expert, but I'll see what I can do to help) [15:36] if i open the additional-drivers the field is empty [15:37] Guest92819: That just means there are no propriety drivers for any of the detected hardware [15:38] Guest92819: can you open a konsole, and run "lspci" then paste the line for the wireless card here? [15:39] ^^ or better yet "lspci | grep -i network" [15:40] sry dc === fille is now known as fille12 === fille12 is now known as fille [15:46] hm... find da nirgendwo ne Einstellung für, dreamon... weder bei Fensterregeln, noch Arbeitsflächen-Effekten... ist das schon seit der Install der Fall oder hast Du Einstellungen verändert? [15:48] Zwulf, Das war am Anfang nicht gewesen. Ich hab schon die Systemeinstellungen angebpsst, aber ich bin mir keiner Schuld bewußt ;) [15:48] sieh mal bei Fensterverhalten -> Fensterregeln nach, dreamon... walls da was steht -> löschen (außer Aktivierungsübernahme...) [15:49] !de [15:49] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [15:50] mach mal folgendes: sudo apt-get install qtcurve, dann bei Erscheinungsbild von A. -> Stil -> Stil der Bedienelemente QtCurve auswählen [15:50] sorry [15:51] I know it's not busy in here but using a different language can give the wrong impression :) [15:51] k, sorry, i'll continue with englisch ;) [15:52] bitte [15:53] BluesKaj, Sry. Tried in #kubuntu-de without.. but lets go on in english ;) [15:54] Zwulf, installed qtcurve .. what do you mean "Erscheinungsbild von A. (A.?)" [15:54] Anwendungen [15:55] in the upper middle of system settings [15:55] Zwulf, Ok. Erscheinungsbild v. A. -> Stil der Bedienelemete -> is now QtCurve.. ok? [15:57] do you get the behaviour still? if so, change also Erscheinungsbild der Arbeitsfläche -> Fensterdekorationen to qtcurve [15:58] just an idea... don't know if it works [16:01] Still same problem.. goning on.. Zwulf your right here i canged geht " Erscheinungsbild der Arbeitsfläche" .. do you think this might be the main reason? [16:02] I will do like you said [16:03] Zwulf, Oh sorry didnt worked. [16:03] By clicking on pidgin window goes fullscreen.. or halfed the Firefox windows.. still same [16:04] I didnt liked the orange desing. [16:11] hm bad luck [16:59] !netsplit [16:59] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === sayakb_away is now known as sayakb === andrea is now known as Guest18908 [17:24] ciao come si fa a scaricare [17:26] !it | Guest18908 [17:26] Guest18908: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) === Omaxis-AFK is now known as OMaxis === Elian_ is now known as Guest38204 [18:47] hola [18:49] Evening all. I'm looking to migrate to ubuntu on my laptop, and I need kde, since I do a little work on their stuff occasionally. Is kubuntu a seperate distro with kde, or do you provide kde for ubuntu? [18:51] BarkingFish: Kubuntu uses the same package respostories as Ubuntu does, and its safe to have both desktop environments installed side by side. [18:51] Pici, I'd prefer kde only if that's at all possible, I don't get on well with gnome. [18:52] I'm totally new to ubuntu having been on mandriva for about the last 9 to 10 years [18:52] BarkingFish: Then I don't understand your question. Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE instead of GNOME. [18:52] oh right :) [18:52] And a set of different default applications, but the core is still the same. [18:53] My question was asking whether kubuntu was seperate to ubuntu, as a distro, or whether you did the kde packages for ubuntu :) [18:53] This is how clueless I am when it comes to other distributions [18:53] BarkingFish, kubuntu is ubuntu without gnome , it uses kde in it's placa nad also has a lot of apps dev'd for it , but all apps run on the various versions of ubuntu of the same release number/name [18:54] ok, so do I need a kubuntu disk, as opposed to a normal ubuntu one? [18:54] all I have now is a regular DVD ISO of ubuntu 11.04 [18:55] BarkingFish, for kubuntu yes .it's strictly kde [18:55] ok, great, I'll go get the right iso, burn it off and start the show :) [18:55] It's going to be fun changing distributions, this is a whole new ball game. [18:56] BarkingFish, think you'll enjoy it , the package management is superior to most other distros [18:58] yeah, iirc you use a debian base, .deb - I've been on a solitary rpm distribution for ages, and it's falling apart. Time for a change :) [18:58] :) === azlon is now known as ev0l [18:59] I'll let you know btw that one of your download links isn't working on the kubuntu download page [19:00] I clicked it and it gave me an ftp error 550 - can't change directory [19:00] http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.04/release/kubuntu-11.04-dvd-i386.iso [19:00] is the DVD an official medium anyway? [19:01] it's available on the download page, so I'd assume so [19:01] http://www.kubuntu.org/ [19:01] * szal has never seen a DVD on his favourite mirror [19:01] yep, the link I'm clicking is the first one in the dvd block for the 32 bit version on this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block [19:02] just comes back as can't change directory to /sites/... - no such file or directory [19:05] BarkingFish: quoting from the download page -> "Do not be confused, even though DVDs can hold far more data than the typical Kubuntu CD, the main benefit of the DVD downloads is to get access to all of the available language packs. Most people will be fine with the standard CD installer." [19:05] yes, that's precisely why I'm getting the DVD, because I need multilingual support. [19:06] I'm teaching a couple of my friends locally how to use linux, and they don't have a great command of readable english. They can speak it well, but I need to be able to localise the system while I'm teaching them [19:09] BarkingFish, do have a torrent client installed? [19:09] do you [19:13] BluesKaj: I think that is a roundrobin link [19:17] hi Daskreech a roundrobin link ? [19:17] BluesKaj: There are a number of servers with the same file and when you click on the link it goes to the next server in the list so that one doesn't get overwhelmed [19:18] However if someone removes the file then "randomly" someone will click on the link and 404 out === RKyle_ is now known as RKyle === larsivi_ is now known as larsivi [19:22] Daskreech, ok thanks ...interesting whois on barkinf*sh , his whois shows him as @wikinews/ [19:23] Probably a maintainer? [19:23] yeah , and no trace of course [19:24] BluesKaj: wikimedia's channels are on freenode. [19:25] What's the most convenient way to restore the windows MBR should I ever want to? [19:25] Pici, his ISP IP is masked somehow [19:26] Samo502: have a windows CD [19:26] Samo502, easyBCD , boot disk [19:26] Daskreech: does version matter? (windows vista for windows 7, etc) [19:27] Samo502, but it will probly erase grub [19:27] Hi guys.. is here anyone experienced with SB audigy 4 and 5.1 sound on Kubuntu 11.04 as I can't get it working... [19:27] BluesKaj: well the reasoning is i have Ubuntu 11.04 on my other computer, and I do enjoy using linux quite a bit. [19:28] Samo502: Windows 7 has a different Boatloader from Windows Vista which has a different one from Windows XP [19:28] BluesKaj: but sometimes i'd also like to free up the space allocated for it to use for other things, and that can't be done until the windows MBR is restored [19:28] Samo502: That's not true but ... ok [19:29] i've always heard if you erase your linux partition first you could majorly damage things [19:29] possibly but it's nothing that a live CD can't fix in a short time [19:29] though, i've never actually experimented with it [19:29] true that a livecd could restore grub [19:30] i think it'd be nice to see an application based method to restore the MBR if needed [19:31] Samo502: For windows that's never a consideration [19:31] it could be done through a livecd, however [19:31] from a linux side of view, 'grub-install' is a valid application based method, unless you want a GUI for it [19:32] Though Windows 7 does have a "kinda" app for that [19:32] my main reason for wondering is because this computer didn't come with a backup disk of the OS or drivers [19:33] so short of pirating one or spending the money on a disk i won't really use, you get it [19:33] Samo502, i successfully restored the mbr on W7 without losing grub, but I think I was lucky cuz I've heard easyBCD is not so easy [19:33] hmm [19:34] i do rather like grub, i will admit [19:34] and i wouldn't mind keeping it over the traditional MBR [19:34] grub rocks [19:34] it's just so flexible [19:35] windows' MBR is probably about as flexible as a rock [19:35] you can add windoes chainloader + , to grub.cfg [19:36] !chainloader [19:36] :) [19:36] simply the main goals are if i should decide to free up space, as long as most of it is free i don't mind sparing a few MB for grub [19:36] !mbr [19:36] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [19:37] (of course MB may be a bit much for a bootloader, never hurts to have extra) [19:39] #ilmenau [19:41] there are those who dual boot , but due to job related political reasons , some like to have windows as the default boot OS , and prefer to have no time out ...using the shift key when linux is needed or wanted === jeremy_ is now known as Guest90248 [20:43] ciao === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:12] hello, could any please tell how to go about setting up back/forward navigation through folders with the back and forward buttons on a mouse, they work with in my browser and I had a look through the shortcut settings but I can only assign a keyboard combination with them. === sayakb is now known as sayakb_away [21:15] aussie114_: xvkey I think [21:23] is this a live channel [21:24] ' [21:26] whats the programming channel deforce or something [21:29] its like a programming channel [21:29] de...... [21:32] unknown212: what? [21:49] aussie114_: Got it? [21:58] Daskreech: not sure what you mean by xvkey [22:08] http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=36877 <-- aussie114_ [22:11] daskreech: thanks for the link [22:44]