[01:43] <poolie> bug search on launchpad itself seems to be fairly consistently timing out
[01:43] <poolie> but not always
[01:43] <poolie> sorry i refeshed before getting the oops
[01:51] <spiv> I sometimes wish I had a firefox extension that remembered the last 5 OOPSes I'd seen.
[01:52] <spiv> I want to refresh with impunity (to get my work done) *and* take a peek at the OOPS report later to satisfy my curiosity about what broke.
[01:52] <spiv> (Well, by "sometimes" I mean "thought of that just now")
[01:57] <lifeless> poolie: probably yes, search timeouts are sneaking back up the charts
[01:59] <wgrant> lifeless, poolie: But there were only two Product:+bugs timeouts yesterday..
[01:59] <lifeless> tag based searches will be problematic still
[03:36] <poolie> spiv, i was just wondering the other day about doing it on the server side
[03:44] <head_victim> I'm getting a few timeouts on translations just now as well
[03:45] <head_victim> Nothing a few refreshes doesn't fix
[03:49] <spiv> poolie: but what if the OOPS-tracker OOPSes? :)
[04:19] <poolie> thanks bot
[07:39] <bryceh> and of course, what if ubot5 oopses?
[07:39] <bryceh> bah
[08:20] <wgrant> ToyKeeper: Thanks.
[08:22] <ToyKeeper> Fun issue...  resulted in 1 support ticket, 2 internal tickets, and 2 bugs.  :)
[08:22] <wgrant> Yup
[09:14] <jml> I clicked "Build now" on https://code.launchpad.net/~testing-cabal/+recipe/testtools-daily and get what looks to be a JS alert saying "Server error, please contact an administrator"
[09:19] <StevenK> jml: It built the recipe successfully 48 seconds ago?
[09:20] <StevenK> For Lucid at least
[09:20] <jml> StevenK: yeah. doesn't change the fact that I got an error message and was told to consult an administrator.
[09:20] <StevenK> Can haz screenshot?
[09:21] <wgrant> jml: There was no OOPS ID?
[09:22] <jml> wgrant, StevenK: http://people.canonical.com/~jml/recipe-build-now-consult-admin.png
[09:22] <StevenK> And it's *alert* ? WTF?
[09:22] <jml> StevenK: that's what I said.
[09:25] <StevenK> Right, it returned something >= 500
[09:25] <StevenK> (From lib/lp/app/javascript/client.js)
[09:25] <wgrant> Without an OOPS ID.
[09:25] <StevenK> Yes
[09:25] <wgrant> And webapp requests return OOPS IDs as of yesterday.
[09:25] <wgrant> So it probably didn't OOPS.
[09:26] <StevenK> So it what, ISE'd instead? That's better? :-/
[09:30] <jml> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/812783
[09:31] <wgrant> From what I can see in the trace logs, it returned a 500.
[09:31] <wgrant> Which should have been an OOPS.
[09:32] <wgrant> Indeed, it wasn an OOPS.
[09:32] <wgrant> was an OOPS.
[09:32] <wgrant> jml: The recipe is still trying to build against Karmic.
[09:32] <StevenK> Ah ha!
[09:33] <StevenK> And that throws an exception
[09:33] <jml> wgrant: oh. that kind of sucks.
[09:33] <wgrant> BuildNotAllowedForDistro: A build against this distro is not allowed.
[09:33] <wgrant> That's a lie, of course: the series is the problem.
[09:33] <StevenK> Right
[09:33] <wgrant> And it doesn't describe which series it is or why it's a problem.
[09:33] <jml> ... and it doesn't give the user enough information to report back.
[09:33] <wgrant> Sure.
[09:33] <jml> btw, I'm not a member of the same teams that you are
[09:34] <wgrant> I know, or I would have asked you to get the OOPS ID from the ajax log.
[09:34] <wgrant> I grepped around in OOPSes and appserver traces.
[09:34] <mantiena> wgrant: Hi, could you tell me is it launchpad recipe building bug or not? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193
[09:35] <wgrant> mantiena: Have you tried bzr-builder locally?
[09:35] <wgrant> Ah, yes.
[09:36] <wgrant> I can't look right now, as I need to make dinner. See if henninge can help, otherwise I will have a look in a few hours.
[09:37] <mantiena> Yes, I've tried, but local bzr-builder doesn't like version number # bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version {debupstream}{date}-0-{revno:packaging}
[09:37] <mantiena> local bzr builder works only when I specify version number without variables, like # bzr-builder format 0.3 deb-version 1.8
[09:37] <mantiena> please answer there: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193
[09:37] <mantiena> I've unstable internet connection and often lost messages and get disconnected from IRC :(
[09:39] <mantiena> wgrant: several hours ago I've changed original https://code.launchpad.net/~baltix/+recipe/irrlicht-svn  recipe to build from my personal irrrlicht branch, which actually is the same lp:~stk/stk/irrlicht branch, but with patched Makefile and without quilt patches in debian/patches
[09:41] <mantiena> wgrant: henninge yesterday told me, that only you can help me with this recipe building problem. It would be nice to know if I can use original lp:~stk/stk/irrlicht branch and make quilt patches in debian/patches ir my separate packaging branch or I should use another technology with launchpad recipes
[09:42]  * wgrant doesn't know very much about recipes.
[09:43] <mantiena> wgrant: then who knows?
[09:43] <wgrant> That is a very good question.
[09:47] <mantiena> wgrant: If I don't answer you then please write there: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193
[09:47] <mantiena> I've *very* unstable internet connection and often lose messages and get disconnected from IRC :(
[09:47] <mantiena> I don't know if you see all the messages I've wrote to IRC and vice verse :)
[09:50] <bigjools> mantiena: see if you can find jelmer on #bzr, he might be able to help
[09:50] <poolie> mantiena: hi there , i see it
[09:51] <mantiena> bigjools: thanks
[09:51] <poolie> i would guess it hhs to do with patches being committed applied when they shouldn't be
[09:51] <mantiena> poolie: sorry, I don't understand what you see :(
[09:52] <poolie> i see your question
[09:52] <poolie> i don't know a fix off hand
[09:53] <mantiena> hi jelmer
[09:54] <jelmer> hi mantiena
[09:54] <mantiena> jelmer: bigjools told me, that you can help with this launchpad recipe bug: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193
[09:55] <jelmer> mantiena: I think Riddell was just looking at answering that one
[09:56] <mantiena> jelmer: Riddel will write answer at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193 ?
[09:56] <jelmer> mantiena: I think so
[09:59] <mantiena> jelmer: ok, I just restored original recipe which cause problem, described https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165193
[09:59] <jelmer> mantiena: what bzr-builder version are you running locally?
[10:00] <mantiena> jelmer:  dpkg -s bzr-builder |grep Ver
[10:00] <mantiena> Version: 0.6+bzr139+0.0ubuntu51~lucid1
[10:01] <jelmer> mantiena: does "debian/rules clean" perhaps touch one of the files?
[10:02] <mantiena> jelmer: which files?
[10:03] <jelmer> mantiena: the files involved in the quilt patches
[10:06] <mantiena> jelmer: AFAIK debian/rules clean doesn't touch any files in debian/patches - debian/rules clean section has only few lines:
[10:06] <mantiena>  unpatch
[10:06] <mantiena>  dh_testdir
[10:06] <mantiena>  dh_testroot
[10:06] <mantiena>  rm -rf html
[10:06] <mantiena>  $(MAKE) -C source/Irrlicht clean
[10:06] <mantiena>  dh_clean
[10:06] <wgrant> Erm, unpatch?
[10:07] <wgrant> bzr-builder/3.0 (quilt) do that for you.
[10:07] <jelmer> mantiena: yeah, unpatch is most likely the culprit
[10:08] <mantiena> wgrant: I just copied debian folder from original debian irrlicht package :)
[10:11] <mantiena> jelmer: btw, when I uploaded patched sources (with already appled quilt patches, then launchpad recipe failed too, but with very strange error, see https://launchpadlibrarian.net/75436123/buildlog.txt.gz
[10:11] <mantiena> Retrieving 'lp:~baltix/+junk/irrlicht-test' to put at '/home/buildd/build-e448bd6a152da0c689ba50a12f130f389b95c050/chroot-autobuild/home/buildd/work/tree/recipe-{debupstream}20110718-0~{revno}'.
[10:11] <mantiena> Applying quilt patches
[10:11] <mantiena> File series fully applied, ends at patch debian/link-against-needed-libs.diff
[10:11] <mantiena> bzr: ERROR: Failed to apply quilt patches
[10:14] <jelmer> mantiena: that is a known issue with the bzr-builder currently deployed on launchpad
[10:14] <jelmer> it will fail if there are some patches that are not in the series file
[10:15] <mantiena> jelmer: there was only one patch, which was in the series file :) I've found one bugreport, which was fixed about a month ago, wait a minute
[10:17] <mantiena> jelmer:  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/75436123/buildlog.txt.gz is because of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/727299 ???
[10:18] <jelmer> mantiena:right, that was the bug I had in mind too
[10:54] <mantiena> Maybe someone knows when newly created import branch https://code.launchpad.net/~stk/stk/1.7.2 will be ready for use (code will be imported from SVN) ?
[11:04] <mantiena> Can you speed-up the import of newly created import branch https://code.launchpad.net/~stk/stk/1.7.2 ?
[11:13] <spiv> mantiena: I've approved the import, it's started now
[11:13] <spiv> mantiena: you can monitor the progress at https://code.launchpad.net/~stk/stk/0.7.2
[11:21] <mantiena> spiv: thank you very much. Btw, should we remove old 0.7.2 branch from launchpad ASAP or you have enouch gigabytes ?
[11:27] <nigelb> oh yay, is loggerhead down?
[11:33] <wgrant> nigelb: Works for me.
[11:33] <dpm> hi henninge, could you give me a hand with https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/165307 ?
[11:35] <marvin2> Hi, I have a local version of the branch lp:original-code; I need the some specific changes made to a fork of that branch located at lp:forked-code. What is the most efficient way for me to incorporate those specific changes to my local bzr repo?
[11:37] <wgrant> In your local branch of lp:original-code, just 'bzr merge lp:forked-code'
[11:38] <wgrant> Or do you just want a subset of the changes in lp:forked-code?
[11:39] <nigelb> wgrant: yeah, refresh worked.
[11:40] <henninge> dpm: I don't see an obvious answer to that question.
[11:41] <henninge> dpm: some are shared and some aren't, so we'd have to look at what is different with those
[11:41] <dpm> henninge, where do you see that some are shared?
[11:41] <henninge> dpm: well, at least they have the same translation on both sides.
[11:42] <marvin2> wgrant: Yeah, just a subset of the changes in lp:forked-code.
[11:42] <henninge> dpm: the second one (Ne_xt) here: https://translations.launchpad.net/checkbox/trunk/+pots/checkbox/sl/+translate
[11:42] <henninge> dpm: but I was just heading out. As I said, not a quick solution.
[11:43] <marvin2> wgrant: I'd like to stick to lp:original-code, while incorporating changes from lp:forked-code(s) from time to time. I know I'll have to handle merges from lp:original-code.
[11:43] <henninge> dpm: I think somebody needs to take some time and look at the whole sharing issue, fix known bugs and see if there are more hidden.
[11:44] <dpm> henninge, ok, but don't you think the ones not shared it's just because they've not been marked to be shared somehow? I tried to export Ubuntu translations and import them upstream, as you guys told me some days ago to do as a workaround, but that did not work, since only the template, but not the translations were imported from the tarball. Could that be the real problem?
[11:44] <henninge> oh right, forgot that
[11:44] <henninge> dpm: the translations are in the queue
[11:45] <dpm> henninge, oh, then perhaps it's not an issue at all, so they are just waiting to get imported?
[11:46] <henninge> dpm: I just approved the template an hour ago, so the approver has probably not picked up on the translations yet.
[11:46] <henninge> dpm: why is tere a second template in the project?
[11:47] <henninge> dpm: nm, I have to run. Yeah, you should wait for these to get imported and see what's going on then.
[11:47] <henninge> adeuring: your turn ;-)
[11:47] <dpm> henninge, I don't know, I think the developers put some of the translations exported from their test templates (not pot templates) in a separate POT template
[11:48] <dpm> but shouldn't have to do anything with this, I think
[11:49] <henninge> dpm: yeah, I don't think either. Let's wait.
[12:08] <adeuring> henninge-lunch: ok
[12:41] <rye> hello, people, is it possible to force unsubscribe the user from a bug report, his e-mail autoresponder is extremely eager to talk to launchpad notification service, bug #564596
[12:41] <rye> well, the bug is private
[12:42] <fagan> Hey, when someone has an auto responder on their mail and it bounces back and forth too much what does lp do?
[12:43] <fagan> It seems like the bug got deleted but I thought id ask
[12:43]  * fagan always seems to have weird questions for this channel
[12:45] <rye> fagan, last notification sent was at July 19, 2011 3:21 - 20 minutes ago
[12:46] <rye> if one more comes in then we'll be flooding the bug reporting until... august 7
[12:46] <fagan> rye: yeah thats right
[12:48] <rye> fagan, yeah, annother one @ Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:36 PM
[12:48] <fagan> rye: yeah so just now
[12:49] <fagan> Really annoying auto reponders are so dumb
[12:51] <fagan> Oh it doesnt delete the page I just opened the page in chrome and wasnt logged in
[12:52] <fagan> Ok lp people could you remove the reporter of this bug from the subscription thing please https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/564596
[12:52] <rye> fagan, well, it should set flag to not send message to Precedence: bulk and Precedence: list
[12:52] <rye> fagan, i have already asked this, nobody from lp team is here apparently
[12:52] <fagan> ah ok
[12:52] <wgrant> I only see one reply there.
[12:53] <fagan> wgrant: well its spamming the email I dont really know why there isnt a reply
[12:53] <wgrant> Oh.
[12:53] <wgrant> It's the dedupe logic.
[12:54] <wgrant> adeuring: Hi.
[12:54] <adeuring> wgrant: yes?
[12:54] <wgrant> adeuring: Could you follow up on the above?
[12:54] <fagan> wgrant: if there is dedupe logic could we stop the emails from being sent out too?
[12:54] <wgrant> I suspect we should suspend the user and email them.
[12:54]  * adeuring starts reading..
[12:54] <wgrant> But it is late here.
[12:55]  * fagan hates infinite loops :)
[12:56] <adeuring> fagan: could you give me again the bug number? 564594 seems to be wrong
[12:56] <wgrant> Ah, of course, you can't see it.
[12:56] <wgrant> The user is dmkaplan
[12:56] <fagan> adeuring: its private
[12:57] <adeuring> fagan: ah... can you subscribe me?
[12:57] <fagan> is adeuring your lp nick?
[12:57] <adeuring> fagan: yes.
[12:57] <fagan> adeuring: done
[12:58] <adeuring> thanks!
[13:01] <Phoenix87> hallo
[13:02] <Phoenix87> i'm seeking developers for a couple of projects. Is this the right place to ask for?
[13:04] <benji> Phoenix87: not really.  What kinds of projects are they?  Maybe you'll get lucky and find someone here or we can point you to a place where those types hang out.
[13:05] <Phoenix87> https://launchpad.net/pygtkplot
[13:06] <Phoenix87> https://launchpad.net/gistiller
[13:06] <adeuring> fagan: fixed
[13:07] <rye> adeuring, thanks!
[13:07] <adeuring> thanks to gnuoy!
[13:07] <fagan> adeuring: thanks :)
[13:08] <Phoenix87> benji, any suggestions for good places where to ask?
[13:09] <benji> for pyGtkPlot I wonder if there is a scientific python SIG or similar; the python list would also be good for either I would think
[13:09] <benji> if you haven't announced them you could also do that on python-announce and include a blurb asking for contributors
[13:09] <benji> there's always #python too
[13:12] <Phoenix87> python-announce?
[13:12] <benji> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list
[13:15] <Phoenix87> benji, thank you :D
[15:34] <deryck> adeuring, hey, I'll take IRC now.
[15:34] <adeuring> deryck: cool, thanks!
[15:36] <deryck> adeuring, I meant to take it at the top of the hour.  Sorry.
[16:58] <gustoneg1o> launchpad uses openID, right?
[16:58] <deryck> gustoneg1o, we're a provider not a consumer.
[16:59] <gustoneg1o> deryck: hmm, does that mean my openID that I use for lp will not work elsewhere?
[16:59] <deryck> gustoneg1o, no, you're lp open id will work elsewhere.  You can't log into lp with another open id.
[17:01] <gustoneg1o> deryck: thanks.  I'm just trying it out for the first time...seems the other site I'm trying to log into is broken then.
[20:30] <dupondje> Do some people have permissions to remove comments from a bug?
[20:31] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/326555 => See last comment For Example
[20:32] <micahg> dupondje: I'd suggest filing a questions against launchpad
[20:32] <deryck> dupondje, I can hide it if it's spam.  let me look.
[20:34] <deryck> dupondje, I hid the comment
[20:39] <dupondje> thx