[11:06] <sabdfl> hi folks, sorry i'm late
[11:07] <dholbach> oops, I didn't pay attention either, let me ping the rest of the gang
[11:07] <sabdfl> dholbach, agenda is empty
[11:07] <dholbach> mako, technoviking, popey, persia, pleia2: around for CC meeting?
[11:08] <dholbach> one thing I just want to check quickly is how we're doing with the restaffing of various teams
[11:09] <dholbach> I know that a lot of CC members still need to vote for the Americas Board restaffing
[11:09] <dholbach> pleia2 sent a mail about this a while ago
[11:09] <dholbach> and I think the Asia/Oceania board is still looking for nominees
[11:10] <dholbach> the next ones are
[11:10] <dholbach>  - 2011-09-01	Technical Board
[11:10] <dholbach>  - 2011-10-07	Community Council
[11:10] <dholbach> until we luckily still have some time
[11:10] <dholbach> that's all I wanted to bring up
[11:10] <dholbach> sabdfl, do you have anything you'd like to discuss?
[11:10] <dholbach> I'm happy to dig the participants of the Asia/Oceania thread again to see where things stand
[11:11] <dholbach> (and urge everybody else to have a look in their inbox and reply to Liz' email about the Americas Board)
[11:13] <popey> oh hai
[11:13] <sabdfl> hey popey
[11:13] <coalwater> hi all :D mind if i join ? i probably wont be any useful but ill just see what's going on
[11:13] <popey> Afternoon.
[11:14] <dholbach> coalwater, sure, all the meetings in here are public
[11:15] <dholbach> Is there anything else we need to discuss?
[11:16] <sabdfl> dholbach, i didn't have anything else
[11:17] <sabdfl> popey, dholbach, i think we can wrap?
[11:17]  * popey voted
[11:17] <popey> I have nothing else.
[11:17] <dholbach> yes, I think we can - I'll reply to the Asia/Oceania restaffing thread right now
[11:18] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone
[11:21] <popey> I like quick meetings. Especially at lunchtime!
[11:21] <sabdfl> cheerio
[16:00] <smb> \o
[16:00] <NCommander> \o
[16:00] <cking> \O
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <jamespage> o/
[16:00] <Daviey> <-- OTP
[16:00] <m_3> o/
[16:00] <cking> oops, wrong meeting, sorry
[16:00] <Daviey> (NCommander has requested to go early in the meeting Agenda.)
[16:01] <Daviey> SpamapS: ping?
[16:02] <SpamapS> Daviey: pong
[16:02] <Ursinha> o/
[16:02] <SpamapS> is it my turn?
[16:03] <Daviey> SpamapS: i believe so
[16:03] <SpamapS> #startmeeting
[16:03] <MootBot> Meeting started at 11:03. The chair is SpamapS.
[16:03] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:03] <SpamapS> indeed it is
[16:03] <SpamapS> Welcome!
[16:03] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:03] <SpamapS> sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued)
[16:04] <SpamapS> neither are here, so we will defer
[16:04] <SpamapS> [ACTION] sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 2)
[16:04] <MootBot> ACTION received:  sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 2)
[16:04] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Oneiric Development
[16:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oneiric Development
[16:04] <SpamapS> git 'r dun
[16:05] <Daviey> o/
[16:05] <Daviey> Full cycle tracking: - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-server-overview.html
[16:05] <Daviey> We seem to be pretty much on target, with:
[16:05] <Daviey> server-boot-experience - slightly flagging.  However, this is expected to be brought up to state this week.
[16:05] <Daviey> server-o-jenkins - is making good progress but limited by Ubuntu AA review / Debian sponsoring, as i understand it.
[16:05] <Daviey> server-o-postfix-enhancements - Seems to be unstarted, this should probably make progress soon - or consider dropping (ScottK?).
[16:05] <Daviey> server-o-trusted-cloud - Is this the same status? (hallyn?)
[16:05] <Daviey> Bugs currently being tracked for Oneiric Release: - http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/release-bugs.html
[16:05] <Daviey> (For the TL;DR'ers, we are doing OK.  However, please try to keep the bug status of those as updated as possible).
[16:06] <Daviey> If there is a bug you are aware of, or currently working on that isn't on that list - please can you raise it here, or with me afterwards.  Thanks.
[16:06] <Daviey> Sync's/Merges: - http://people.ubuntu.com/~davewalker/server-sid-new.html (We are doing ok!)
[16:06] <serue_> Daviey: trusted cloud shoudl be dropped
[16:06] <Daviey> Ursula will be commenting on incomming bug process in AoB i believe.
[16:06] <Daviey> Thanks!
[16:06] <Daviey> EOM.
[16:06] <Ursinha> yes sir
[16:06] <Daviey> serue_: thanks.
[16:07] <SpamapS> Alright, shall we then?
[16:07] <Daviey> pls
[16:07] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:07] <SpamapS> o/
[16:08] <SpamapS> I'll be speaking at OSCON 2011 http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/schedule/detail/18367
[16:08] <SpamapS> July 28
[16:08] <SpamapS> in Portland
[16:08] <SpamapS> Any others?
[16:09] <SpamapS> Alright then
[16:09] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:09] <SpamapS> hggdh: you're up
[16:10] <hggdh> k
[16:10] <hggdh> we are releasing 10.04.3 this week; help on the testing is welcomed
[16:11] <hggdh> also, a new milestone on Oneiric is approaching...
[16:11] <hggdh> apart from that, life is good
[16:11] <hggdh> ..
[16:12]  * SpamapS is installing a 10.04.3 RAID1 vm right now.. :)
[16:12]  * smb is reminded to go for two more installs ...
[16:12] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:12] <smb> hi there
[16:13] <smb> So there seems to be acceptance to take back the changes in xen xvd naming
[16:13] <smb> Though it seems to target 3.1
[16:13] <smb> Which means I will have to pull back that as soon as I think there are no other objections
[16:14] <smb> Apart from that I am trying to get xen hvm running in oneiric. Currently being in contact with citrix on that
[16:14] <smb> But zul probably has some other info too
[16:14] <smb> ..
[16:15] <SpamapS> zul is out this week.. do we need any actions for follow up next week?
[16:16] <smb> No, either I'll contact him next week or I get something from Stefano
[16:16] <SpamapS> ok
[16:16] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:17] <SpamapS> NCommander: ^
[16:17] <NCommander> Hey all
[16:17] <NCommander> ARM Server is currently working towards our first image bringup, with the work on preinstall pool being completed and in the process of deployment
[16:18] <NCommander> in addition, PXE'able images are now available for OMAP3/4, which also works to remove a blocker for ensemble deployment on ARM
[16:18] <SpamapS> NCommander: ogra_ had proposed an optional upstart job that would add a serial console.. is that still needed?
[16:18] <NCommander> As we close in on A3, a lot of effort is going into heavily QAing stuff on ARM, and in general, simply pipecleaning all our mechanisms
[16:18] <NCommander> SpamapS: I think it got implemented post-Dublin (ogra is on vacation so I can't immediatley confirm)
[16:19] <SpamapS> NCommander: ok just checking.
[16:19] <SpamapS> Anything else?
[16:19] <NCommander> Nope, that's it
[16:20] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:21] <SpamapS> speak now or forever hold your peace. :)
[16:21] <m_3> term
[16:22] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Open Discussion
[16:22] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion
[16:22] <SpamapS> Ursinha: nice job on the report!
[16:23] <SpamapS> Ursinha: I love the ubuntu-server-bot idea. :)
[16:23] <Ursinha> cool!
[16:23] <Ursinha> so, we're working on changing the bug triage process and add speed to it
[16:23] <Daviey> \o/
[16:24] <Ursinha> the main proposed change is, in a first moment, to set the importance of the bug, even if we don't have a status to set
[16:24] <Ursinha> this will help us prioritizing what to investigate next.
[16:24] <Ursinha> the report SpamapS mentioned is: http://people.canonical.com/~ursula/triage-report.html
[16:25] <Ursinha> we hope to be able to find and kill duplicates easily, as well
[16:25] <Ursinha> clean the mess so we can be awesome
[16:26] <Ursinha> The changes in the process are described in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase
[16:27] <SpamapS> [ACTION] All: review new triage process at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase
[16:27] <MootBot> ACTION received:  All: review new triage process at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase
[16:27] <utlemming> Ursinha: how often will the report be updated?
[16:27] <Daviey> Great Stuff!  Thanks Ursinha
[16:27] <Ursinha> stats information to be added in that report soon! we'll be able to tell how many bugs are we triaging daily and weekly, and how new bugs are being handled
[16:27] <Ursinha> utlemming: every ten minutes
[16:28] <utlemming> very cool
[16:28] <Ursinha> enjoy! :)
[16:28] <Ursinha> ..
[16:29] <SpamapS> Alright, anything else?
[16:29] <SpamapS> [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time
[16:29] <MootBot> New Topic:  Announce next meeting date and time
[16:30] <SpamapS> Tuesday 2011-07-26 at 1600 UTC here in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:30] <SpamapS> thanks everyone!
[16:30] <SpamapS> #endmeeting
[16:30] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:30.
[16:30] <Ursinha> thanks SpamapS and guys
[16:31] <m_3> thanks... sorry for the unitylockup-inspired Tourette's in the middle of the meeting
[16:32] <Ursinha> m_3: lol
[16:32] <Ursinha> :)
[17:00] <bjf> #startmeeting
[17:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is bjf.
[17:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[17:00]  * smb still here
[17:00] <bjf> ##
[17:00] <bjf> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <bjf> ##
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:00] <bjf> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <bjf> #       'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <bjf> #
[17:00] <bjf> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> Kernel development: nothing to report.
[17:00] <ppisati> Oneiric/ti-omap4: got a new BSP drop from agreen, rebased on top of rc7 and rolled out a new kernel. People in the arm team are testing it and so far (besides an audio bug that looks like a pulseaudio issue) it looks good. A kernel package is available here: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/ti-omap4-next/ while the source code is available on ppisati@zinc:oneiric-git/ti-omap4-next.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <bjf> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 28 linux kernel bugs (up 8)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 2 linux kernel bugs (up 2)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 23 linux kernel bugs (up 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 3 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 7 linux kernel bugs (down 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 62 oneiric bugs (up 13)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 1420 natty bugs (up 34)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 1103 maverick bugs (down 13)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 968 lucid bugs (down 45)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 33 hardy bugs (down 2)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 6 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 43 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 82 lucid bugs (down 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 444 natty bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 242 maverick bugs (down 3)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 217 lucid bugs (down 4)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 2 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 2 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 lucid bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara)
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: Oneiric Delta Review (ogasawara)
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review
[17:03] <ogasawara> apw, lag, ralveti: you have work items to review your set of Ubuntu patches.  I've pushed these out to Alpha-3 for you.  Please take a moment to review when you have a chance. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/KernelOneiricUbuntuDeltaReview for your specific set of patches.  Note, these are the only remaining work items for this blueprint.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <bjf> [TOPIC] Blueprints: Oneiric Server Requirements (smb)
[17:03] <bjf> [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-server-requirements
[17:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Blueprints: Oneiric Server Requirements (smb)
[17:03] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-kernel-o-server-requirements
[17:03] <smb> No change here. As the remains items are pretty much depending on outcome of something else and either fall off completely or get pushed out as we go, I am not sure it really needs to be on the agenda anymore. Would people mind dropping it?
[17:04] <smb> ..
[17:04] <apw> if there is nothing to report, drop it ..
[17:04] <ogasawara> +1 drop it
[17:04] <jjohansen> +1
[17:04] <smb> ok, will make sure it gets off
[17:04] <smb> ..
[17:04] <bjf> will be done
[17:04] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> Nothing very exciting this past week.  I plan to do an upload today or tomorrow to get patches on master-next released.  Alpha-3 is Thurs Aug 4th.  I intend to upload our final Alpha-3 kernel next Friday July 29th.  If there are any patches that need to land for Alpha-3, get them sent to the kt-ml asap.
[17:04] <smb> bjf, even better thanks
[17:05] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:05] <apw> [17:05] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~apw/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <apw> We have made good progress recently with most branches only having a single CVE open; CVE-2011-1020 for which the fixes were just identified.
[17:05] <apw> Currently open CVEs for each supported branch:
[17:05] <apw> || Package                                  || Open ||
[17:05] <apw> ||                                          ||      ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Hardy                              ||    5 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Lucid                              ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Maverick                           ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Natty                              ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Oneiric                            ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    4 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    1 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    1 ||
[17:06] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    1 ||
[17:06] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    1 ||
[17:06] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    1 ||
[17:06] <apw> ..
[17:06] <bjf> [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:06] <sconklin> ||== Status of kernels ==
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || Several regressions have been reported in Natty after release last week,
[17:06] <sconklin> || None of these were detected in QA, Certification, or -proposed testing.
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/810400|Disks not recognized after upgrading to 2.6.38-10]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/811240|Update to kernel 2.6.38-10 causes hang on startup]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/809878|Wireless network & graphics card stop working after upgrade to 2.6.38-10]]
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || This is kernel prep week, getting set up to begin a verification cycle next week.
[17:06] <sconklin> || Several kernels have already been built and are in -proposed
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html|Detailed Information Here]]
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> ||[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/812360|Hardy Tracking Bug]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * A new kernel is in -proposed. Since this kernel contains only CVE fixes, there is no verification to be done, and it is ready for QA
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ||[17:07] <sconklin> || * Previous kernel has been released, but a new one has not been prepared yet
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ||[17:07] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/808934|Maverick Tracking Bug]]
[17:07] <sconklin> || * Kernel in -proposed from the last cycle is awaiting certification and regression testing.
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ||[17:07] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/811180|Natty Tracking Bug]]
[17:07] <sconklin> || * Previous kernel has been released, and a new one is in -proposed.
[17:07] <sconklin> || * Verification has begun for this kernel, and will continue through next week.
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ..
[17:07] <bjf> [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> || Current Kernel versions are always available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> || Package                                    || Upd/Sec              || Proposed             ||  TiP || Verified ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||
[17:07] <sconklin> || hardy    linux                             || 2.6.24-29.91         || 2.6.24-29.92         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:07] <sconklin> || lucid    linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick  || 2.6.35.25.36         || 2.6.35.30.38         ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux-lts-backport-maverick       || 2.6.35-25.44~lucid1  || 2.6.35-30.56~lucid1  ||   22 ||       22 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux-firmware                    || 1.34.7               || 1.34.10              ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || maverick linux-firmware                    || 1.38.6               || 1.38.8               ||    1 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux                             || 2.6.35-30.54         || 2.6.35-30.56         ||    1 ||        1 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || natty    linux-meta-ti-omap4               ||                      || 2.6.38.1209.7        ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.38    || 2.6.38-10.6          || 2.6.38-11.7          ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux-firmware                    ||                      || 1.52.1               ||    0 ||        0 ||
[17:08] <sconklin> || ---      linux                             || 2.6.38-10.46         || 2.6.38-11.47         ||   18 ||        5 ||
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[17:09] <bjf> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:09] <MootBot> New Topic:  Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:09] <bjf> thanks everyone
[17:09] <bjf> #endmeeting
[17:09] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:09.
[17:09] <apw> thanks bjf
[17:09] <sconklin> thanks
[17:09] <smb> thanks
[17:09]  * smb wanders off
[17:09] <cking> nice one
[19:57] <Dazed_75> I thought there was a re-approval meeting scheduled for the upcoming hour.  But we got an email that the deadline had passed.  Does anyone know what happened?
[19:57] <Dazed_75> for the Arizona LoCo BTW
[19:59] <czajkowski> Dazed_75: the meeting is on in 2 mins
[19:59] <czajkowski> but we received no application for the team
[19:59] <czajkowski> did you update the bug with the application before today ???
[20:00] <Dazed_75> Hmmm, the team leader sent me an email saying we had been unnapproved because the deadline had passed so he would talk to me tonight.  Let me try calling him
[20:00] <czajkowski> well you've been given 9 months to get the application in
[20:01] <czajkowski> it was due in last cycle
[20:01] <czajkowski> and we gave a further 3 months to get it in
[20:01] <Dazed_75> phone
[20:03] <Dazed_75> he does not answer.  The team leaders basically disappeared.  Todd Cole took over and has been working to get thing organized for this re-approval meeting which is now
[20:03] <czajkowski> well it wasn;t added to the agenda
[20:03] <czajkowski> and we have no application
[20:03] <czajkowski> so perhaps for the next meeting
[20:04] <czajkowski> or add the information to the bug you were added to for re approval
[20:04] <Dazed_75> This is who Todd was workign with: > From: paultag@ubuntu.com
[20:04] <huats> Dazed_75, the thing that bother me
[20:05] <huats> is that there is no answer regarding the application but we have received an application for free banners for loco teams
[20:05] <Dazed_75> actually, we received the banners a couple days ago and it was a surprise neither Todd or I knew about
[20:06] <czajkowski> Dazed_75: see that's kinda unfair
[20:06] <czajkowski> you were given 9 months to get reapproved
[20:06] <huats> Dazed_75, you received the banners?
[20:06] <Dazed_75> this is the bug we were on: Subject: [Bug 766541] Re: Re-approval, ubuntu-arizona
[20:06] <czajkowski> so up until then we gave it in good faith you would give us the application
[20:07] <Dazed_75> the people in charge 9 months ago basically disappeared.  We had a very hard time communicating anything to/from them
[20:08] <czajkowski> Dazed_75: all I can say is this.
[20:08] <czajkowski> please submit in your application as soon as ye can
[20:08] <czajkowski> but until then ye will remain unapproved
[20:08] <Dazed_75> I think Todd thought that was to be done in this meeting.  Has been very hard to find info on the process (Todd told me, as I just jjoined this past week)
[20:08] <Dazed_75> though I have been involved in events for years
[20:09] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
[20:09] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/LoCoTeamReApproval
[20:09] <czajkowski> there are wiki pages dedicated to this
[20:09] <czajkowski> there are 6 people on the council to come and ask for help
[20:11] <Dazed_75> Like I said, I just joined and was made co -leader but have no experience with this process.  I know Todd had been working on that wiki approval page but do not know if he knew he had to submit it via a process.  Thanks foor the info
[20:11] <czajkowski> ok
[20:11] <czajkowski> perhaps mail us afterwards ok
[20:11] <itnet7> Dazed_75: As czajkowski has said, put yourself on the agenda for next month. If you need any help reach out to us
[20:12] <itnet7> we'll give you a hand
[20:12] <Dazed_75> Alright.  Thanks itnet7
[20:12] <itnet7> Or I'll give you one
[20:13] <Dazed_75> If no one minds I will capture this log and send it to Todd
[20:13] <popey> o/
[20:13] <popey> sorry, dodgy connection
[20:13] <Dazed_75> huats: Todd tells me we got a box with some bbanners
[20:14] <itnet7> No problem Dazed_75 !
[20:14] <huats> Dazed_75, I'll send an email to Todd then to ask him who he asked to get it then
[20:15] <Dazed_75> I don't think he asked for them, so that will be an interesting answer
[20:15] <czajkowski> indeed
[20:15] <czajkowski> huats: popey itnet7 anything we need to discuss as it's just the 4 of us ?
[20:15] <huats> Dazed_75, well he emailed me at least about it
[20:16] <huats> czajkowski, nope
[20:16] <huats> :)
[20:16] <czajkowski> well we have no agenda
[20:16] <popey> quiet one
[20:16] <czajkowski> and no teams
[20:16] <czajkowski> so unless we need to talk about stuff ??
[20:18] <czajkowski> if that's a no then we can leave it
[20:19] <czajkowski> ok well Good night so
[20:21] <huats> good night too
[20:22] <paultag> Hey, sorry I'm late
[20:23] <huats> paultag, don't worry it is over
[20:23] <paultag> oh joy. Righto
[20:42] <zakame> ping
[20:42] <Knightlust> czajkowski: er... so there won't be any meeting  in a few minute
[20:42] <Knightlust> s/minute/minutes/
[20:43] <czajkowski> Knightlust: meeting started 43 mins ago and ran for 20 mins as we had no agenda
[20:43] <Knightlust> arrggh, timezone
[20:44] <arscariosus> whoa
[20:46] <zakame> hm I was under the impression the meet happens 3rd Tuesday of every month at 21:00 UTC, per LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[20:56] <cody-somerville> 'The LoCo Council meets on the 3rd Tuesday of every month at 21:00 UTC. The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday 19th July 2011, 20:00 UTC'