| * thumper mashed up a cmake rule to build the html file | 00:26 | |
| thumper | that works | 00:26 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | enough | 00:26 |
| snail | thumper: if you're using xsltproc, you probably already have xmllint installed. you may want to run 'xmllint --noout' on your input XML to make sure that it really is XML. | 00:36 |
| thumper | snail: emacs tells me it is valid :) | 00:36 |
| snail | valid for which version of XML? | 00:37 |
| thumper | 1.0 :) | 00:38 |
| chrismsnz | anybody here use a tiling window manager? | 01:50 |
| snail | does an xconsole with a dozen tabs count? | 01:52 |
| chilts | chrismsnz: I use XMonad, though I used to use ion3 and awesome | 01:54 |
| chilts | XMonad rocks :) | 01:54 |
| chrismsnz | chilts: excellent | 01:55 |
| chrismsnz | chilts: I like xmonad (especially the way it handles multiple monitors) but I don't feel like learning haskell | 01:55 |
| chilts | me either, I just hacked together a XMonad config over the course of a couple of days and now I don't touch it at all | 01:55 |
| chilts | am glad I don't have to know more about it :) | 01:56 |
| chrismsnz | all other tiling wm's seem to handle multiple monitors in some braindead way (i.e. treated as teh same screen for multiple desktops, or worse, has a set of desktops for each screen) | 01:56 |
| chrismsnz | does ion3 work like xmonad? | 01:56 |
| chilts | well, apart from the fact that it's a tiling window manager :-p | 01:56 |
| chilts | they all have their slight differences | 01:56 |
| chilts | ion3 has the notion of 'tabbing' built in, XMonad doesn't | 01:57 |
| chilts | it also has a scratch area, which I miss terribly (but I'm used to not having it now) | 01:57 |
| chilts | whereas XMonad doesn't have a crazy developer who doesn't like Debian and therefore became unsupported :) | 01:57 |
| chilts | (that was the main reason I switched, since then I considered ion3 to have a limited life) | 01:58 |
| chrismsnz | iirc, I threw out ion3 after their window traversal controls were one-off the usual vim keybindings | 02:00 |
| chrismsnz | i.e. hjkl instead of jkl; | 02:00 |
| chilts | vim is hjkl :) | 02:01 |
| chrismsnz | i meant it the other way around, ion3 was jkl; | 02:02 |
| chilts | :) | 02:02 |
| chrismsnz | chilts: if you get a spare sec can you pastebin/gist your xmonad config so i can have a geeze | 02:06 |
| chilts | yep, one moment please caller | 02:09 |
| chrismsnz | chilts: thanks mate, no rush | 02:10 |
| chilts | chrismsnz: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/d9a007.txt | 02:10 |
| chilts | the things I added differently are 'command-s' for 'ssh to a server', an extra tile layout and 'command-shift-l' to turn the screensaver on | 02:11 |
| chilts | have fun :) | 02:12 |
| chrismsnz | it actually looks fairly tidy and understandable | 02:13 |
| chrismsnz | _b | 02:13 |
| chrismsnz | thank you sir | 02:13 |
| chilts | no worries | 02:15 |
| chilts | mwhudson: mind if I head across now? I'll be there in about 15 mins or so | 04:26 |
| mwhudson | chilts: now is good | 04:26 |
| chilts | sweet, thanks, see you soon | 04:26 |
| mwhudson | chilts: i was actually thinking about bunking off early, so earlier is better than later :) | 04:26 |
| chilts | if you want me to, I can come along another time? | 04:27 |
| mwhudson | no, now-ish is fine | 04:27 |
| chilts | sweet | 04:27 |
| * chilts & | 04:27 | |
| lifeless | moin | 19:58 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:09 |
| snail | mÅrena | 20:20 |
| mwhudson | morning | 21:03 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 21:05 |
| chrismsnz | morning | 21:07 |
| chrismsnz | Anybody here use an sms gateway they can recommend? | 21:31 |
| thumper | morning | 21:43 |
| thumper | chrismsnz: not me, sorry | 21:43 |
| snail | chrismsnz: i seem to recall that ours changed recently. an independent got bought out by one of the big two | 21:48 |
| snail | i think we're still looking for a solution | 21:48 |
| chrismsnz | snail: Ok, we're looking at wiring up our nagios install to one and trying to avoid pagerduty | 22:02 |
| chrismsnz | thanks | 22:02 |
| ibeardslee | are you talking about a self hosted one or a hosted by someone else? | 22:04 |
| chrismsnz | I'm looking for a way to send text messages via our nagios monitoring system | 22:05 |
| ibeardslee | so selfhosted then | 22:05 |
| chrismsnz | connecting directly to vodafone's SMSC as a vendor seems like overkill | 22:05 |
| chrismsnz | so a middleman is not out of the question | 22:06 |
| ibeardslee | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.new-zealand.general/32728 | 22:11 |
| ibeardslee | Catalyst use ERMS .. although I can't find mention to it beyond the Catalyst internal network | 22:12 |
| chrismsnz | ibeardslee: thanks for that - interesting | 22:12 |
| chrismsnz | I wonder if we're able to use a 3g modem in our colo | 22:13 |
| chrismsnz | i'm guessing not | 22:13 |
| ibeardslee | ahh yeah that could be the killer | 22:13 |
| ibeardslee | we've tried that previously, the answer has pretty much been 'policy says no' | 22:14 |
| ibeardslee | a combination of extra interference and no phones in the server room | 22:15 |
| chrismsnz | I wonder if anybody I worked with at vodafone messaging is still there | 22:17 |
| chrismsnz | most of them went to 2deg | 22:17 |
| chrismsnz | so maybe i'll ask them >:) | 22:19 |
| chilts | morning :) | 22:41 |
| chilts | new lappy this morning, though I still can't get the wireless working | 22:41 |
| chilts | recompiled a rt5390sta driver for it, still no giggles | 22:41 |
| ajmitch | you have the misfortune of having a ralink chipset? | 22:44 |
| ojwb | morning | 22:47 |
| chilts | yeah, but it seems lots of people managed to get it to work | 22:47 |
| chilts | I've tried a few different settings in some make.cfg too, but still no joy | 22:47 |
| chilts | next time, I think I'll get a Zareason or something like that | 22:48 |
| Atamira | morning | 22:48 |
| mwhudson | anyone know of a git kernel mirror that's in nz? | 23:32 |
| mwhudson | or at least vaguely net close | 23:32 |
| ojwb | seems likely there'll be on in .au at least | 23:35 |
| ojwb | but I don't know of anything | 23:35 |
| ibeardslee | just checking if we do | 23:35 |
| ibeardslee | we do host a kernel mirror .. don't know if that's a git mirror | 23:36 |
| mwhudson | i'm getting decent rates to the git.kernel.org i guess | 23:39 |
| mwhudson | i'm just impatient | 23:39 |
| ibeardslee | heh | 23:40 |
| ojwb | you need lazy-git! | 23:40 |
| ojwb | hmm, I wonder if it would work to simply fetch the files on demand | 23:41 |
| thumper | hey, what's happening in here | 23:41 |
| ojwb | you could probably just use some sort of LD_PRELOAD or fuse hack | 23:41 |
| thumper | too much talking | 23:41 |
| ojwb | please miss, they started it | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | thumper: sorry, we'll be quiet | 23:41 |
| ibeardslee | mwhudson: "Actually, no, just a subset." | 23:42 |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: ok, thanks for looking | 23:43 |
| ajmitch | I imagine that a full git mirror could take quite a bit more space & bandwidth to maintain | 23:43 |
| ajmitch | probably not much compared to distro mirrors though | 23:44 |
| mwhudson | i think a fair bit of cpu too | 23:44 |
| mwhudson | git clone is harder on a server than 'GET /... HTTP/1.0' | 23:44 |
| mwhudson | aiui anyway | 23:45 |
| ojwb | you should be able to rsync a git repo though, provided you aren't modifying it locally, shouldn't you? | 23:47 |
| ojwb | oh, you mean harder by clients on the mirror | 23:47 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 23:48 |
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