[00:26] * thumper mashed up a cmake rule to build the html file [00:26] that works [00:26] enough [00:36] thumper: if you're using xsltproc, you probably already have xmllint installed. you may want to run 'xmllint --noout' on your input XML to make sure that it really is XML. [00:36] snail: emacs tells me it is valid :) [00:37] valid for which version of XML? [00:38] 1.0 :) [01:50] anybody here use a tiling window manager? [01:52] does an xconsole with a dozen tabs count? [01:54] chrismsnz: I use XMonad, though I used to use ion3 and awesome [01:54] XMonad rocks :) [01:55] chilts: excellent [01:55] chilts: I like xmonad (especially the way it handles multiple monitors) but I don't feel like learning haskell [01:55] me either, I just hacked together a XMonad config over the course of a couple of days and now I don't touch it at all [01:56] am glad I don't have to know more about it :) [01:56] all other tiling wm's seem to handle multiple monitors in some braindead way (i.e. treated as teh same screen for multiple desktops, or worse, has a set of desktops for each screen) [01:56] does ion3 work like xmonad? [01:56] well, apart from the fact that it's a tiling window manager :-p [01:56] they all have their slight differences [01:57] ion3 has the notion of 'tabbing' built in, XMonad doesn't [01:57] it also has a scratch area, which I miss terribly (but I'm used to not having it now) [01:57] whereas XMonad doesn't have a crazy developer who doesn't like Debian and therefore became unsupported :) [01:58] (that was the main reason I switched, since then I considered ion3 to have a limited life) [02:00] iirc, I threw out ion3 after their window traversal controls were one-off the usual vim keybindings [02:00] i.e. hjkl instead of jkl; [02:01] vim is hjkl :) [02:02] i meant it the other way around, ion3 was jkl; [02:02] :) [02:06] chilts: if you get a spare sec can you pastebin/gist your xmonad config so i can have a geeze [02:09] yep, one moment please caller [02:10] chilts: thanks mate, no rush [02:10] chrismsnz: http://paste.dollyfish.net.nz/d9a007.txt [02:11] the things I added differently are 'command-s' for 'ssh to a server', an extra tile layout and 'command-shift-l' to turn the screensaver on [02:12] have fun :) [02:13] it actually looks fairly tidy and understandable [02:13] _b [02:13] thank you sir [02:15] no worries [04:26] mwhudson: mind if I head across now? I'll be there in about 15 mins or so [04:26] chilts: now is good [04:26] sweet, thanks, see you soon [04:26] chilts: i was actually thinking about bunking off early, so earlier is better than later :) [04:27] if you want me to, I can come along another time? [04:27] no, now-ish is fine [04:27] sweet [04:27] * chilts & [19:58] moin [20:09] morning [20:20] mōrena [21:03] morning [21:05] morning [21:07] morning [21:31] Anybody here use an sms gateway they can recommend? [21:43] morning [21:43] chrismsnz: not me, sorry [21:48] chrismsnz: i seem to recall that ours changed recently. an independent got bought out by one of the big two [21:48] i think we're still looking for a solution [22:02] snail: Ok, we're looking at wiring up our nagios install to one and trying to avoid pagerduty [22:02] thanks [22:04] are you talking about a self hosted one or a hosted by someone else? [22:05] I'm looking for a way to send text messages via our nagios monitoring system [22:05] so selfhosted then [22:05] connecting directly to vodafone's SMSC as a vendor seems like overkill [22:06] so a middleman is not out of the question [22:11] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.linux.new-zealand.general/32728 [22:12] Catalyst use ERMS .. although I can't find mention to it beyond the Catalyst internal network [22:12] ibeardslee: thanks for that - interesting [22:13] I wonder if we're able to use a 3g modem in our colo [22:13] i'm guessing not [22:13] ahh yeah that could be the killer [22:14] we've tried that previously, the answer has pretty much been 'policy says no' [22:15] a combination of extra interference and no phones in the server room [22:17] I wonder if anybody I worked with at vodafone messaging is still there [22:17] most of them went to 2deg [22:19] so maybe i'll ask them >:) [22:41] morning :) [22:41] new lappy this morning, though I still can't get the wireless working [22:41] recompiled a rt5390sta driver for it, still no giggles [22:44] you have the misfortune of having a ralink chipset? [22:47] morning [22:47] yeah, but it seems lots of people managed to get it to work [22:47] I've tried a few different settings in some make.cfg too, but still no joy [22:48] next time, I think I'll get a Zareason or something like that [22:48] morning [23:32] anyone know of a git kernel mirror that's in nz? [23:32] or at least vaguely net close [23:35] seems likely there'll be on in .au at least [23:35] but I don't know of anything [23:35] just checking if we do [23:36] we do host a kernel mirror .. don't know if that's a git mirror [23:39] i'm getting decent rates to the git.kernel.org i guess [23:39] i'm just impatient [23:40] heh [23:40] you need lazy-git! [23:41] hmm, I wonder if it would work to simply fetch the files on demand [23:41] hey, what's happening in here [23:41] you could probably just use some sort of LD_PRELOAD or fuse hack [23:41] too much talking [23:41] please miss, they started it [23:41] thumper: sorry, we'll be quiet [23:42] mwhudson: "Actually, no, just a subset." [23:43] ibeardslee: ok, thanks for looking [23:43] I imagine that a full git mirror could take quite a bit more space & bandwidth to maintain [23:44] probably not much compared to distro mirrors though [23:44] i think a fair bit of cpu too [23:44] git clone is harder on a server than 'GET /... HTTP/1.0' [23:45] aiui anyway [23:47] you should be able to rsync a git repo though, provided you aren't modifying it locally, shouldn't you? [23:47] oh, you mean harder by clients on the mirror [23:48] yeah