[02:10] <endzeit> is there a ppa or official repo with gnome-shell-extensions ?   i'm very much enjoying oneiric on my dedicated testing machine, but i wanted to muck about with gnome-shell as well as unity.
[06:12] <saptarshi> Ex-Chat
[06:14] <saptarshighosh> hi everybody
[09:59] <saptarshighosh> anyone here????
[10:56] <brendand> yes
[13:55] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[13:56] <jibel> Good morning charlie-tca
[13:56] <charlie-tca> weird bug I got, huh?
[13:56] <jibel> charlie-tca, I tried to reproduce your bug 812342
[13:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 812342 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Lucid 10.04.3 Encrypted Install fails to install Ubuntu (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812342
[13:56] <jibel> but failed
[13:57] <charlie-tca> I can't even get it to remove the existing OS, so, apparently, it is doing nothing for the hour of installing
[13:57] <jibel> If there is an unencrypted swap partition on disk 1 then the installer refuses to add an LVM encrypted partition on disk 2
[13:57] <jibel> (which doesn't happen in Oneiric BTW)
[13:57] <charlie-tca> I have manually tell it to not use the existing swap files
[13:58] <charlie-tca> s/have/have to
[13:58] <jibel> charlie-tca, oh, that's probably why. I can reproduce a slightly similar issue if there is an encrypted lvm on the other disk
[13:59] <charlie-tca> I have had users report this strange thing to me, and told them try again. Normally it doesn't fail the second time.
[13:59] <jibel> after the installation only the new install can be loaded
[13:59] <charlie-tca> I can't load the new install
[13:59] <jibel> the other is not overwritten but is lost because it can't be decrypted
[13:59] <charlie-tca> According to grub, and booting, it just doesn't exist
[13:59] <jibel> charlie-tca, yeah probably because you set the partition manually it behaves differently
[14:00] <jibel> charlie-tca, indeed grub can't 'see' it, it is encrypted
[14:00] <charlie-tca> but shouldn't it have over-written the existing install on the drive?
[14:00] <charlie-tca> I can still boot to the install that was therer before
[14:01] <charlie-tca> and I am telling it to use the entire drive space for the encrypted install
[14:02] <jibel> charlie-tca, I think I have the missing bit of information to reproduce the problem
[14:02] <jibel> thanks
[14:02] <charlie-tca> Good luck
[16:43] <jibel> Hey all,
[16:43] <jibel> Latest candidates for Ubuntu 10.04.3 are on the tracker.
[17:23] <skaet> Kubuntu Alternate 10.04.3 images are on the tracker now as well.
[17:24] <chadadavis> Has anyone tried server yet? I'm getting "no kernel modules found" both for amd64 and i386
[17:30] <charlie-tca> chadadavis: will try it in VBox
[17:34] <charlie-tca> chadadavis: verified, no kernel modules found, server and alternate images
[17:35] <chadadavis> charlie-tca, still installs, but without e.g. network, so pretty serious.
[17:35] <jibel> chadadavis, confirmed
[17:35] <jibel> cjwatson, ^
[17:35] <charlie-tca> alternate images for ubuntu give the same error
[17:35] <chadadavis> charlie-tca, didn't seem to affect desktop
[17:36] <charlie-tca> server and alternate both use d-i, maybe that is why?
[17:36] <jibel> that affects d-i based images
[17:36] <chadadavis> charlie-tca, that's what I was assuming.
[17:36] <skaet> jibel, chadadavis - is there a bug number I can point to?
[17:37] <jibel> filing one with the logs
[17:37] <chadadavis> skaet, not from me. Thanks, jibel.
[17:43] <skaet> thanks jibel, chadadavis
[17:43] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca
[17:43] <skaet> btw:  Kubuntu Desktop 10.04.3 images posted
[17:43] <charlie-tca> syncing them now
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Kubuntu alternate images use d-i, too?
[17:55]  * skaet is hoping charlie-tca is not seeing the same thing there too.... 
[17:56] <charlie-tca> yes, actually, I did
[17:56] <charlie-tca> no kernel modules found
[17:56] <skaet> infinity, ^^  see backscroll for history of problem.
[17:56] <skaet> charlie-tca, drat.  was hoping that a respin would solve things.
[17:56] <skaet> thanks for confirming that it won't.
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Sorry
[17:57] <charlie-tca> but you are welcome
[17:57] <skaet> no apologies - MUCH better to know now.
[18:11] <infinity> skaet: No promises about finding the issue in a timely fashion, but I'm grabbing images and poking.
[18:20] <infinity> skaet: Oh, wait, are these images based on -proposed, or did we get all the kernel bits into -updates/-security?
[18:21]  * infinity goes to look.
[18:23] <skaet> infinity,  these images should all be based on -updates/-security.
[18:45] <skaet> jibel,  ubuntu DVD now posted (20110719.2)
[18:47] <infinity> skaet: I might see the problem, but I'm not entirely sure what the resolution is.  It seems to involve a publishing mishap with soyuz.
[18:49] <skaet> infinity,  good to know.   Let me know if I can do anything to help.
[18:52] <infinity> Hahahahaha.
[18:52] <infinity> So, I'm digging around for "soyuz publishing bugs" here, trying to decide why by-hand packages aren't getting copied from -proposed to -updates.
[18:52] <infinity> And I realise that we have *documentation* that states it doesn't work, and gives directions on how to bypass the publisher and mangle it all by hand.
[18:53] <infinity> Special.
[18:53] <infinity> skaet: Fixing in a short while here.
[18:53] <infinity> skaet: Not sure if this fix alone will fix your images, but it's a start. :)
[18:53] <skaet> :)
[18:54] <skaet> Let me know when its good to retrigger the builds.
[18:54] <infinity> Yeah.  On a side note, have we had any update-manager updates in this point release cycle too?
[18:54] <infinity> I'll check.
[18:55] <infinity> Cause they suffer from the same misfeature.  Well, lack of feature.
[18:55] <skaet> thanks
[19:16] <chadadavis> skaet, the new DVD has the same kernel module problem under the debian-installer. But, it seems fine under the 2.6.35 kernel.
[19:17] <skaet> chadadavis, thanks for flagging.   will mark it for rebuild then as well.
[19:18] <infinity> Yeah, anything d-i-based will need a respin.
[19:18] <infinity> I'm just trying to decide if my changes will fix this, or if I need to do something else.  Respinning might be the path of least resistance in sorting that out, though. :/
[19:19] <skaet> inifinity,  let me know if you want to or want me to kick off ubuntu alternate to test the hypothesis
[19:22] <skaet> Ubuntu DVD marked for rebuild now
[19:28] <infinity> skaet: Just making sure we have mirror propagation...
[19:28] <skaet> infinity:  +1 :)
[19:39] <jibel> infinity, no update-manager update in this release, last update was in december
[19:41] <infinity> jibel: Yeah, though that version was never copied from -proposed to -updates either.  I've fixed that now.
[19:43] <jibel> infinity, does it mean that u-m 1:0.134.11 was not in 10.04.2 either ?
[19:44] <infinity> jibel: Not the downloadable tarball bits, no.
[19:44] <infinity> (ie: the stuff found at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/ )
[19:45] <infinity> No idea if there were fixes to the dist-upgrader payload, but if there were, no one was seeing them.
[19:55] <infinity> skaet: Want to re-spin server CDs as a test-case (since that's what I have here already :P)
[19:55] <infinity> skaet: I have a theory that things might work now.  Maybe.
[19:56] <skaet> infinity,  okie.  kicking it off now.
[20:08] <jibel> skaet, wubi is broken
[20:11] <skaet> jibel,  ack.  Lets get a bug in, and flag it for ev and cjwatson.
[20:11] <jibel> filing now
[20:21] <skaet> jibel, ubuntu-server images posted (hopefully with d-i resolved).
[20:21] <skaet> infinity, jibel,  if one of you can tell me that it solves the problem,  I'll start the others off.
[20:22] <jibel> skaet, syncing
[20:22] <infinity> jibel: Keener.
[20:22] <skaet> :)
[20:26] <jibel> anyone knows magic runes to force hardy to upgrade to 10.04.3 instead of insisting on 10.04.2 ?
[20:26] <jibel> mvo help
[20:27] <jibel> there are days, you'd better go fishing.
[20:29] <jibel> infinity, skaet ubuntu-server looks better
[20:29] <jibel> at least it passes the previous failure
[20:29] <infinity> jibel: \o/
[20:30] <infinity> Glad I could help.
[20:30] <skaet> jibel,  infinity - thanks!!!   ok,  I'll start off the rest.
[20:32] <infinity> skaet: If you're making a point-release checklist (or updating a current one), you might want an "if newDebianInstaller || newUpdateManager { pokeArchiveAdmins.msg("by-hand processing from -proposed to -updates"); }
[20:32] <jibel> skaet, infinity: installation OK
[20:32] <jibel> infinity, Thanks!
[20:33] <skaet> infinity,  yup,  we need to update the current one with this.
[20:34] <jibel> hggdh, new server ISOs are ready. I canceled previous run and launch another one.
[20:34] <infinity> skaet: The actual process is well-documented ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Special_case:_debian-installer_updates ), so just need to add the poke to your workflow.
[20:35]  * skaet nods
[20:35] <infinity> (Well, or make sure we don't forget to do it when we do the pocket copy...)
[20:35] <infinity> But redundant poking is nice.
[20:36] <skaet> or at least not too annoying compared with late respins ;)
[20:37] <infinity> Indeed.
[20:41] <hggdh> jibel: on the look
[20:42] <skaet> jibel,  rebuilds started in order Ubuntu DVD, ubuntu alternate, kubuntu alternate.
[20:42] <hggdh> jibel: after we finish this, I will install my fixes for the kernel selection
[20:42] <hggdh> don't want to confuse things ;-)
[20:46] <jibel> hggdh, yes please :)
[20:52] <hggdh> heh
[21:04]  * skaet heading out for a bit,  back later.
[22:01] <charlie-tca> crashed Kubuntu Desktop 64 doing OEM install, it crashed at the start of End User Creation
[22:02] <charlie-tca> pulling the logs for the report
[22:03] <charlie-tca> hm, downloading debug packages went from 1.5 minutes to 45 minutes now
[22:14] <jibel> new Ubuntu DVD posted to the tracker
[22:22] <jibel> charlie-tca, how does it crash, segfault or something else ?
[22:23] <charlie-tca> segfault
[22:23] <charlie-tca> python 2.6 segfault
[22:24] <charlie-tca> and... it refuses to file the report
[22:25] <charlie-tca> I have to try it later, tired now.
[22:25] <jibel> Ubuntu Alternate 20110719.2 are published on the tracker
[22:26] <jibel> charlie-tca, I'm trying it there quickly and will visit my bed.
[22:26] <charlie-tca> I will run the OEM install again in a couple of hours.
[22:27] <charlie-tca> Maybe I did something wrong
[22:28] <jibel> a python segfault is rarely an expected behavior, I doubt you did something wrong.
[22:30] <hggdh> yeah...
[22:30] <hggdh> jibel: transcribing now
[22:37] <jibel> charlie-tca, it doesn't crash here. You did something wrong ;-)
[22:37] <jibel> j/k
[22:38] <charlie-tca> heh
[22:38] <charlie-tca> see above :)
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I will run another install later. Maybe I have to hand copy the files if it crashes, since it is just before going to the install screen for the end user
[22:42] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate 20110719.3 published.
[22:44] <jibel> hggdh, thanks for updating server tests.
[22:44] <jibel> any uec testing planned for 10.04.3 ?
[22:45] <jibel> ec2 I mean
[22:45] <jibel> ?
[22:49] <jibel> now, since compiz finds my system's memory yummy and ate most of it, it means it is time to say good night everyone!
[22:57] <hggdh> jibel_: both
[22:58] <hggdh> jibel_: running UEC test, and prearing to run ec2 tests