[00:46] "who is louise boat?" [00:46] LOL [01:44] hi [04:57] morning \o [04:58] \o [05:04] MartijnVdS: How's it going? [05:04] good, but I'm up way too early :) [05:49] same really ^_^ [06:22] morning [06:47] Hi, could someone tell me please, what is the replacement for nfs-user-server [06:48] GreenDance: nfs-kernel-server - support for NFS kernel server [06:48] Thanks MartijnVdS [06:48] it's faster too [06:48] :) [06:52] morning folks (to any unfortunate enough to already be half an hour into work) [06:52] morning all [06:52] mornin' [06:53] morning all [06:53] morning all [07:00] morning all [07:01] all, morning [07:01] Morning folks [07:06] anyone else got a cupcake in their chrome browser today? [07:06] http://twitpic.com/5sdu7c [07:11] not me [07:16] popey, mutiple profiles turned on? apparently it's default icon when they are [07:16] http://chromestory.com/2011/06/your-own-google-chrome-with-an-avatar-to-add-color-multiprofiles/?replytocom=12046 [07:19] as you've discovered yourself by your facebook post :D [07:28] popey: http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/19/google-chrome-cupcake-icon/ [07:28] so don't delete the default profile seems good advice [07:29] what an odd icon for them to choose [07:30] AlanBell: Its Google, whats odd for normal people is the norm for Google :) [07:34] nice icon [07:35] Morning [07:35] hi daubers [07:36] I'm surprised the cupcake can't be disabled, however. [07:36] hi daubers [07:37] Why would you disable a cupcake? Just _eat_ it! [07:37] why did i think of michael jackson after that last sentence? [07:40] I need to order some RAM for my Eee 900's [07:40] one has 512MB, one has 1GB, they run a bit slow [07:41] I need to clean/reformat my eee [07:41] make it ready for OU stuffs [07:42] daubers, what course you doing? [07:42] MooDoo: TU100, it's the first part of the CS degree [07:42] Need to put in for one of the maths ones too [07:47] yay, ordered [07:47] * bigcalm consideres himself quite ordered [07:56] Morning all [07:57] morning hoover [07:57] * MooDoo upgraged to oneiric last night :D [08:06] Pro-tip: Don't ssh to the kids laptops and run "apt-get install" something when they're out of sight. They both just shut the lids, suspending them. [08:06] Hopefully it will just carry on when they open the lid later [08:13] yay! a new lugradio episode ;-D [08:14] it's been a long time coming :D [08:14] popey: what's running on the eee 900 right now? [08:15] Indeed [08:15] oimon: Ubuntu 11.04 [08:15] I only deleted their RSS last year or so ;-) [08:15] if i remember correct, the 900 has the same processor as the 701 [08:15] it does [08:15] but the 701 is underclocked to 600MHz [08:15] would be perfect for chrome os , if it worked :( [08:15] the 900 runs at 900MHz [08:16] running lubuntu at the mo, but distros have never stayed more than 3-6 months on it [08:18] Updating base-files. Reboot required? [08:20] nah [08:20] * dwatkins sends BT a long e-mail describing the fact his broadband stopped working when he prepared to run their broadband speed test [08:20] * bigcalm continues then :) [08:23] I wonder when dabs will ship my ssd [08:25] i got mine in 1 day from dabs, even with the economy shipping :D [08:27] What size SSDs are you people getting? I'm curious as to where the sweet-spot for price vs capacity is [08:27] Luck of the draw. I've had shipping sped up in the past from different suppliers. No rush for me though. I won't have time to install it until next month sometime [08:27] I went for a 60gb for £79.99 [08:28] got a 128gb samsung one [08:28] for a colleague [08:28] £180 [08:32] * dwatkins will do some comparative research [08:32] did y'all get them from Amazon? [08:33] Dabs.com [08:33] I'll compare with scan.co.uk also as they're good for some things [08:33] I would have bought from Amazon, but the price was fluctuating and then went over the Dabs.com price [08:33] i have 64gb ones, i use hard-drives for storage and honestly 32gb will do you fine for ubuntu without storage [08:33] Yay for Invisible Hand plugin for web browsers [08:33] ooerr sounds a bit pervy [08:34] I think popey introducted me to it [08:36] what's the catch with it? [08:36] ah ok: If you buy a product after clicking on the button in an InvisibleHand notification, the retailer or seller pays us a small commissio [08:36] might check it out [08:37] also, check out quidco - you get the commission through them instead of someone else [08:41] my quota at work is full so i'm checking some directories...amazed to find my wine directory is 500MB! i only use it for word viewer [08:42] Mornin! [08:46] morning HarryHaaren [08:54] oimon: can't you use googledocs instead? [08:54] ...or abiword [08:55] blimey [08:55] people actually use word viewer [08:58] I thought word viewer was one of the few reasons mst-corefonts could be distributed. [09:02] !ping [09:02] Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to respond to factoid requests. Call that job satisfaction? Because I don't. [09:03] word viewer is handy to see if an openoffice doc is viewed ok in ms office [09:04] it's my only way to find out, and rather handy [09:04] since i share docs with office using colleagues regularly [09:31] Killer Ferret on the Loose!!! === denny- is now known as denny [09:46] hippychick, is it a cute killer ferret? [09:59] directhex, yes very much so :) [10:00] directhex, he is 8 weeks old so he is still learning the world [10:01] this is where someone says they smell, and you describe it as a "pleasing musk" [10:02] morning all [10:02] * davmor2 prods czajkowski [10:04] directhex: I was about to say that the females tend not to smell. But then read that it's a he [10:06] davmor2: oi [10:12] * davmor2 prods czajkowski again for oi-ing ;) [10:13] >:( [10:13] behave [10:14] czajkowski: sorry I'm in a good mood :P [10:14] oh joy [10:14] the females dont smell as bad as the males [10:15] but a neutered male smells about as bad as a female [10:15] unfortunatly with him being only 8 weeks he cannot be neutered yet, so he does smell [10:15] ah ferrets [10:16] lol [10:16] god I was looking for some context there [10:16] We got rats this weekend, I'm hoping they don't smell too bad. [10:17] we got our 4th fuzzie Friday night [10:17] dwatkins, oly loves rats, so dont tell him! [10:17] hello hippychick [10:17] * dwatkins remains quiet ;) [10:17] hi popey \o/ [10:18] * popey wonders when we're going to have a Google+ Ubuntu-UK Hangout-a-thon [10:19] * Laney strips off [10:19] NOW! [10:19] well it take one to start a hangout :) [10:20] * JGJones watch a tumbleweed rolling past....I don't think anyone's taking your offer up Laney. [10:20] this is one of the saddest days of my life :( [10:20] http://tumbleweed.popey.com/ [10:21] I never tire of that [10:21] that's weird [10:21] if you view the image the tumbleweed blows in the other direction [10:22] My recommendation is to do it wearing a mankini, you'll get more success that way Laney :) [10:22] popey - heh...do you have a page for every meme going? :) [10:23] I did something silly with popey's tumbleweed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/5863158335/in/photostream [10:26] nice theme [10:27] popey: horizontal flip eh? [10:27] very snazy. [10:27] Theme? [10:28] horizontal flip? what kind of sorcery is this?! [10:28] CSS [10:29] Daviey: people complained the tumbleweed tumbled the wrong way [10:29] popey: i feel conned. [10:30] its official. the internet will complain about anything [10:30] Heh [10:30] Very true :) === webpigeon_laptop is now known as Guest8035 [11:20] ALLAHJEZERA ALLAH BE PRAISED!! [11:22] ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER!! [11:22] lol, just as you said that popey my ferret fell off the sofa... [11:23] hippychick: Beware his noodly appendage! [11:23] hehe [11:30] gord: Oh no they won't and how dare you insinuate that they would :D [11:31] i love ferrets! i have two polecats :p [11:31] bigcalm: calm I'd say yay and get all excited only it won't play in my browser flippin flash I got 64bit 11beta and it still says I need to install the latest version [11:34] daev, we have a silver mixed Hob, a sandy Hob, a polecat Jill, and a 8 week old polecat hob [11:35] beta's do tend to be buggy. the time lost by correcting an unstable version is probably never balanced by that gained of 64bit flash over 32flash [11:36] I think one of my Hobs might have some mixed as his eyes are black but reflect red opposed to the normal sea green colour. [11:36] our Sandy has black or red eyes depending on how much light is in the room, i always say it depends on what mood he is in :P [11:36] my jill had silver fur until she was spade :( they are both wonderful though [11:37] hahaha that's funny [11:38] our Jill isnt too well, at the moment, had to rush her to the vets, though she should be fine after a course of antibiotics [11:40] i recently lost a hob to a respitory desiese. It was a cryin share because he was a proper funny ferret. a bit dappy and a big alcoholic. but he was PURE muscle. there was no scruff on his nech and larger albinos who visited once couldnt dominate him and he protected all the others of my group. amazing to watch how social they are [11:40] shame* [11:41] we have to have the kit in the living room with us for the moment, the other 3 have grouped together and they are not letting him in [11:41] having to introduce them slowly [11:45] it can be a tedium at times. but the rewards of having a happy family are unmatched by any other pet i've found. and i've had dogs, tortoises, birds, hedgehogs, fish, mice, snakes, and many more. ferrets just win. the smell however is an unfortunate equilibrium [11:48] i dont really notice the smell too much [11:48] i found my parents dogg smelt more [11:55] any slowaris buffs around? [11:55] never mind, just googled the question ;-) [12:07] patchlevel fun? [12:36] another quiet day in the trenches [12:40] * davmor2 fires some mortars in MooDoo general direction to liven his day up a little [12:41] davmor2, why thank you kind sir, it's so boring i can't even be bothered to abuse czajkowski [12:41] czajkowski: make his day abuse him a little [12:49] * bigcalm returns to haunt you all [12:50] * czajkowski sends davmor2 and MooDoo to the naughty step [12:50] .me rebels as my 2 year old does on a daily basis......NO! [12:51] bah, the naughty step is where all the cool people hang out. Like the kitchen at a party. [12:51] lol [12:52] Daviey: your spot is well and truly etched there [12:52] \o/ [12:54] dents in the step where your bum is usually sat :) [12:55] Daviey: come join the cool kids [12:56] * Daviey has the realisation that they let anyone onto these steps now. [12:57] Daviey: you're right czajkowski let you on it :P [12:58] bah [12:59] Daviey: Sorry couldn't resist ;) [13:00] feckers [13:00] czajkowski, come be naughty and join us [13:00] nope [13:00] I'm good! [13:00] czajkowski, pah rubbish [13:02] czajkowski: you're never good so you may as well come and be trouble on the step you know you want too [13:02] +1 [13:02] you can't prove it so I am :) [13:02] * MooDoo looks at his note pad and tries to find some dirt on czajkowski [13:03] if you ask me, #u-uk is the definition of the naughty step. [13:03] gord: +1 [13:03] * MooDoo joins #naughtystep lol [13:13] * davmor2 joins #naughtystep too [13:15] * davmor2 taunts czajkowski from the safety of #naughtystep [13:26] what's the best full diagnostic test of a system? already run memtest... [13:27] migrate a popular website onto it? [13:27] maybe glxgears for 5 hours, [13:27] what're you testing for? [13:27] oimon: what's wrong with the system [13:27] nothing i hope, but wanna make sure all systems are functinoing [13:27] bonnie? [13:27] could run some stress tests for a few hours [13:28] bonnie is good idea for IO, maybe i'll run geekbench for few hrs [13:28] need to learn how to use the phoronix suite [13:28] oimon: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=486495 [13:29] davmor2: sweeet, test suite live! [13:29] merci buckets [13:30] oimon: I've had a look there is only mockery in this bucket, there is no mercy ;) [13:30] * oimon produces another bucket [13:31] stress test live can go on my multiboot usb stick [13:39] http://stallman.eventbrite.com/ [13:44] popey, registereed [13:44] he is great, but I think I have seen him enough now [13:44] surely the message is rather similar each time [13:45] hah, they got that arranged [13:45] never seen him so it's a good opportunity [13:45] similar, but not the same, he adds and removes random stuff, generally more esoteric random political opinions get added [13:45] local too [13:46] We (podcast) got a mail from someone to promote it [13:46] * popey notes that the mail was sent to nobody, but probably BCC'ed a number of people [13:46] and starts with "I love your podcast" [13:46] so I suspect it was spammed out to a number of shows [13:46] i love $podcast [13:46] which makes me even less inclined to read it out [13:46] spodcast is a good name for a geek show! [13:48] tempted to send a snarky reply [13:48] maybe he/she really does love all the podcasts they sent it to [13:49] perhaps [14:03] Am wondering...does Unity come with some sort of a search - beagle or tracker? [14:06] JGJones: comes with zeitgiest [14:06] zeitgiest's more of a event-tracking thing isn't it? [14:06] it tracks everything [14:06] rather than a desktop search like tracker [14:07] gord - I'm looking for a document which I can remember some of the content...zeitgiest's not finding it [14:07] JGJones: Nope covers everything [14:08] the idea is eventually that if you copy a file, or download a file or whatever, if a file gets on your system zeitguist will know about it, so rather than crawling all your files, eating up your battery life and cpu, it just knows because it gets told when the file first appears [14:08] JGJones: are you using the files lens or the dash? [14:08] ah...well the document haven't been opened for quite some time, long before I upgraded to unity [14:08] so prior to zeitgiest [14:09] davmor2, files lens [14:10] Funnily, document stuff has nothing to do with a "time spirit". [15:24] just converted another user to ubuntu :D [15:24] :) [15:25] yay [15:25] wooyoo....i'm still working on the wife, and the next time i've got to fix the parents/sisters laptop from a virus, they are having it :D [15:25] the speed of the usb install is a winner, shame it sometimes needs pro intervention on the install side by side with vista option [15:26] i think they will mainly be using ubuntu since the vista was not behaving logically [15:28] Hey lads dont suppose anyone has two minutes to help me work through a wee problem do they? [15:28] software centre is a massive win [15:28] !info texmaker [15:28] texmaker (source: texmaker): cross-platform LaTeX editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 875 kB, installed size 2136 kB [15:28] What's up, jimmie? [15:28] !info texmaker lucid [15:28] texmaker (source: texmaker): cross-platform LaTeX editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.9-2 (lucid), package size 760 kB, installed size 1948 kB [15:30] jimmie: probably. What's your actual question? [15:33] <^aDaM> Hi guys I am trying to watch a film and it feeezes an repeats the sound of the movie an I have to press the 'reset button' on the tower, also when I leave a few downloads on the go it seems to restart its self at random times an it ends up on Windows XP as that is the default OS in the GRUB Menu! :/ [15:34] <^aDaM> Can anyone explain to me why it is doing this? Ive updated Ubuntu an it still crashes. [15:35] ^aDaM: sounds like pulseaudio is sucking resources, open htop in a terminal. and see what is going on. [15:35] ^aDaM: change the players output to something else than pulseaudio, and try again/ [15:35] if its restarting when doing downloads it could be a hardware issue [15:35] overheating or perhaps memory failure [15:36] true, i was just thinking about the sound. [15:37] <^aDaM> I knew it would be that ill give it ago brobostigon. [15:38] <^aDaM> Cheers popey! [15:38] ^aDaM: also consider what popey said, aswell, for the other issue. [15:42] <^aDaM-PC> Hi guy [15:42] <^aDaM-PC> s.. [15:43] Gah sorry guys stuff stopped working [15:43] linus is on google+ [15:43] <^aDaM-PC> brobostigon: When I install htop I get this message.. I did an update then tryed again and its not working still :/ [15:43] <^aDaM-PC> Pastebin of Terminal: http://pastebin.com/AcPAqFiM [15:44] Basically im trying to follow: http://www.ubunturoot.com/2011/05/how-to-installcompile-elementary.html [15:44] brobostigon: he tends to say jerk-y things in the past..not as bad as sabdfl's twitter feed though :-o [15:44] <^aDaM-PC> Dose anyone know how I could get my fan to full speed on my Graphics Card? I forgot how to do it, forgot the commands and stuff as I have not been using computers for a while :D [15:45] But, this happens: [15:45] immie@jimmie-PC:/$ bzr branch lp:~cldx3000/slingshot/experimental [15:45] You have not informed bzr of your Launchpad ID, and you must do this to [15:45] write to Launchpad or access private data. See "bzr help launchpad-login". [15:45] bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "/experimental": [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/experimental' [15:45] Even when i login it says that [15:45] oimon: ok, interesting. [15:46] ^aDaM-PC: that means the hashes dont match, between the package, and the package list. [15:46] and harps on about getting umpteen other things, none of which are necessary according to the guide [15:46] <^aDaM-PC> brobostigon: Oh right.. [15:46] brobostigon: if he (linus) writes exclusively about linux i'd add him though [15:47] ^aDaM-PC: not a clue myself how to fix it, find someone with more apt experience than me,. sorry/ [15:47] oimon: ok, interesting,i will subscribe and see what i think. [15:48] hehe i might put him in my ubuntu fans circle [15:49] :) [15:49] jimmie: why are you branching that into your / folder? [15:49] jimmie: And not saying, your home directory? [15:49] s/saying/say/ [15:49] jimmie: Do in the terminal: cd; bzr branch lp:~cldx3000/slingshot/experimental [15:50] Ahaha! [15:51] It appears to be doing something [15:51] You beautiful man [15:52] Correct [15:52] jpds is indeed a beautiful lady. [15:54] o.O [16:13] [Iain Cuthbertson] Downloading SoundCloud Playlists - http://www.myrant.net/2011/07/19/downloading-soundcloud-playlists/ [16:21] Oh, I forgot I'm part of the planet [16:23] Well, not going to be able to sleep tonight! Just been told I'm up on a hiring committee today (US time) - so next 8 hours I'll know... [16:29] Mez: good luck [16:31] MartijnVdS: cheers! [16:32] * MartijnVdS got something very "lekker" for the Books and Butties meetup :) === Guest8035 is now known as webpigeon [16:33] http://www.lotusbakeries.nl/lotus/view.php?page_id=670 :) === OmNomDeBonBon is now known as RaycisCharles [16:35] Google translate is funny [16:35] Stuur deze ingevulde briefkaart samen met de originele kassabon op naar;Lotus Speculoos Euro-ActieAntwoordnummer 11856200 VB Maastricht(postzegel niet nodig)Actievoorwaarden: [16:35] Becomes [16:35] Send this completed postcard together with the original receipt up to, Lotus Speculoos Euro Action Antwoordnummer one thousand one hundred eighty-five six thousand two hundred VB Maastricht (postage required) Terms and Conditions: [16:36] bigcalm: there's supposed to be a space between 1185 and 6200 [16:36] or a newline actually [16:36] I'm sure there was, google translate is a mess at times though :) [16:37] Amused that it converted digits to words [16:37] that's a bit weird, yes :) [17:35] evening all === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === cking is now known as cking-afk [18:24] Is there such thing as a printer you can get to use once every never? [18:24] Something cheap that I can use to print something off maybe once a month without it ceasing up due to lack of use [18:24] Azelphur, not sure if you find one let me know :) [18:25] hehe :p [18:25] Azelphur, i alway use the one at work for the odd things i need to print [18:25] Hi, there's a website I'm trying to find, I've lost it, basically the website offers a repo as the website owner builds the latest apache and php, does anyone know the url to the website please? [18:32] Azelphur: that has never happened to me with any printer and i never use a printer as regularly as once a month [18:33] fun [18:34] my last printer stopped working when moss started growing in & on it :/ [18:34] shauno: did you take it to a field and beat it with a baseball bat listening to rap music ? [18:34] nah. I just left it in the garage when we moved [18:35] (it was a dumb dotmatrix. it didn't require beating. very obedient :) [18:36] so, cheap and cheerful Ubuntu compatible printers? :P [18:36] preferably color, but it doesn't need to be fast [18:44] Azelphur: I have a CP1515n from HP and I love it [18:44] Azelphur: will probably last me ~15 years ;) [18:52] seems a bit beefy [18:53] my boss has a nice wireless colour laser [18:53] he got sick of doing printing now and then, and the ink drying out between [18:53] ah, lasers don't have any drying out problems? [18:53] nope [18:53] so I guess I'm looking for a cheap laser [18:54] toner is dry already :) [18:54] i got rid of a laser recently [18:54] mine even does IPv6 [18:54] i had the same toner in it for about 5 years [18:54] My old laser printer was a second-hand HP Laserjet 5 from the mid-90s [18:54] yeah, mine was 2nd hand too [18:54] bought a toner off ebay [18:54] it died after moving twice (too many bumps, I guess), after 12 years of service [18:55] hehe [18:56] popey: getting fed up with forgetting to renew my giffgaff goodybags, think I'll knock up some python to do it :) [18:56] does this interest you? [18:56] hah [18:56] i dont use my giffgaff [18:56] * popey looks around for the sim [18:57] hehe, giffgaff is my main provider [18:57] suits me nicely the allowance of minutes is more than I'll use and I love my unlimited internet :P [18:57] GAH [18:58] STOP CRASHING COMPUTER [18:58] * MartijnVdS shakes his fist at oneiric [19:04] unlimited internet, wutwut? [19:06] Hornet: yea, giffgaff do unlimited (no FUP) internet/texts + 250 minutes for £10/mo [19:06] they do tiered plans for more minutes too [19:06] not allowed to tether, but I tether anyway [19:07] once did 5GB in a day and got no hassle, not that I'd recommend trying that XD [19:10] interesting [19:14] interesting++ [19:14] basically an O2 sim card [19:15] Hornet: if you wanna get it lemme refer you :D [19:29] Hello! [19:30] Has anyone got a moment to give me some advice on installing an application? [19:31] !ask | Rafz^ [19:31] Rafz^: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [19:31] Azelphur: refer me up :) [19:31] AlanBell: http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/azelphur :D [19:33] OK: I want to use ventrilo to speak to some friends. I have found a program called Mangler that works on ubuntu. I have downloaded the program from this web site: http://www.mangler.org/download/ and have extracted the files onto my desktop. I have then followed these steps: 1. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mangler/mangler [19:33] 2. sudo apt-get update [19:33] 3. sudo apt-get install mangler. I am getting an error message on the final step. What am I doing wrong? [19:33] Rafz^: pastebin the error [19:33] !pastebin | Rafz^ [19:33] Rafz^: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:34] Rafz^: also, is there no way you and your friends can use mumble instead? it's better in just about every way xD [19:35] Azelphur: ordered [19:35] AlanBell: :D [19:35] AlanBell: what you going for, the £10 plan? [19:36] I have a new error now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/647571/ [19:37] never seen that one before, googling about :p [19:37] Rafz^: what about mumble though? it's better :P [19:38] Azelphur: dunno really, probably the £5 one, it isn't for me [19:38] AlanBell: ah, lots of texts then :) [19:38] Not possible for me to get 40-50 other people to install mumble just because I use ubuntu ^_^ [19:38] Rafz^: *shrug* maybe get them to install it because it's a better codec that uses less bandwith, has an osd and positional audio for gaming [19:38] my wow guild uses it, as do most guilds with half an ounce of sense now :p [19:39] it probably uses less resources than vent does, too [19:39] But it's not my call, I just want to join a vent, many vents. It's not used for one guild or one game it's used for 10-20 servers. [19:39] fair enough :) [19:40] And I agree mumble is better, I use it. [19:41] Rafz^: try sudo add-apt-repository -f ppa:mangler/mangler [19:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/647581/ [19:43] without the try, haha [19:43] lol try :p [19:43] just saw it [19:43] haha [19:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/647582/ [19:48] any good? [20:18] AlanBell: ping? [20:44] Whats an ubuntu [20:44] A distribution of Linux based upon Debian [20:45] !ubuntu [20:45] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [20:45] wow [20:45] what do I do with it [20:45] Anything [20:46] Anything? [20:46] It's an computer operating system. [20:46] Consider it an alternative to Microsoft Windows [20:46] There is an alternative to windows? [20:46] How much does it cost?! [20:46] There are several [20:46] Ubuntu is free [20:47] FREE? [20:47] What is the catch!? [20:47]