| skyjumper | system76 needs to go with the 3 button trackpad | 04:29 |
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| skyjumper | not sure how easy it'd be to give that up, switching from thinkpad | 04:30 |
| ToyKeeper | If it has two buttons right next to each other, it's not too hard to press the crack between the buttons to middle-click by hitting both buttons simultaneously. | 07:29 |
| ToyKeeper | However, if it's designed like my netbook, as one continuous button surface with a rocker in the middle, pressing them at the same time is a pain. :( | 07:31 |
| joey | skyjumper: just email them about it | 15:09 |
| joey | skyjumper: if they can build me a custom laptop (the original darter) they can put a 3 button mouse on something :-) | 15:09 |
| skyjumper | sweet | 17:20 |
| FunnyLookinHat | skyjumper, what up | 17:20 |
| skyjumper | hey | 17:20 |
| skyjumper | was that an auto-response | 17:21 |
| skyjumper | was really quick | 17:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Nah | 17:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'm a real person that really responds quickly... and then slowly. | 17:30 |
| skyjumper | you should tell the system76 people to do a middle mouse button | 18:22 |
| skyjumper | thinkpad still does it, and is still useful in linux | 18:22 |
| skyjumper | thinkpad has it, rather | 18:23 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah it is useful... | 18:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But I think they're going the Apple route... i.e. a multitouch trackpad with the best driver is ultimately better for most users. | 18:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'd get rid of the middle mouse if I had consistent two-finger scrolling... | 18:30 |
| skyjumper | hmm, yeah, i might also | 18:30 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I have a Thinkpad too though | 18:30 |
| skyjumper | hope they don't "go apple" the same way ubuntu is trying to | 18:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I ultmately got it over a Sys76 because it had Optimus graphics... something I later realized would not work correctly - and I didn't need it. | 18:31 |
| skyjumper | i.e., abandon the entire concept of a linux power user | 18:31 |
| skyjumper | the whole reason most of us use it | 18:31 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'm not sure I know what you mean by "go apple" ? | 18:32 |
| skyjumper | removing options, dumbing down interfaces | 18:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah | 18:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well ultimately those are changes made by the Ubuntu dev council and Canonical | 18:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I'm still a Gnome 2 guy personally. | 18:32 |
| FunnyLookinHat | But I think I'd switch if 11.04 wasn't so buggy w/ Unity on my current setup. | 18:33 |
| skyjumper | they're also the new philosophy of Gnome 3 | 18:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Yeah | 18:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Not much of a fan of Gnome 3 either. | 18:33 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Though I haven't really given either much effort. | 18:33 |
| skyjumper | i could rant about this for hours | 18:33 |
| skyjumper | but in short, most of us just want a lot of control over the machine, without a lot of difficulty | 18:34 |
| skyjumper | and the open desktop deities don't seem to get that | 18:34 |
| skyjumper | i just associate the middle-button thing with having control | 18:35 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah | 18:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Well - then continue to purchase laptops with middle mouse buttons and configure everything to work correctly? :D | 18:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | That's what I did. | 18:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | :) | 18:36 |
| skyjumper | or maybe try the two-finger thing | 18:36 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I used to have a mac | 18:49 |
| FunnyLookinHat | And two-finger was 10000x better. | 18:49 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ultimately, customizable multi-touch was the best thing. | 18:49 |
| FunnyLookinHat | I just never found a good enough driver for a touchpad on Linux to go with - though I've heard that the Sys76 touchpads are amazing. | 18:49 |
| FunnyLookinHat | They pulled together a few community-developed drivers and got really great results. | 18:50 |
| * ToyKeeper <3 the middle mouse button | 19:09 | |
| ToyKeeper | I'd just be happy if they hadn't removed the coordinate calibration thing from the touchpad config tool. My netbook is nigh-unusable if I enable touchpad scrolling, because it thinks the "edge" is the entire right half of the touchpad. | 19:11 |
| ToyKeeper | 2-finger scrolling works on my thinkpad, but I never use it... easier to move my thumb down to the right edge than to move my entire hand down to the touchpad. | 19:13 |
| ToyKeeper | Plus, it's a small thinkpad so there's barely enough room on the touchpad for two fingers. | 19:13 |
| skyjumper | ToyKeeper: i didn't have much luck with the two-finger scrolling on thinkpad | 20:27 |
| skyjumper | scrolled way too fast and didn't detect the fingers accurately | 20:27 |
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