| sakhi | Morning | 05:54 |
|---|---|---|
| superfly | morning sakhi | 05:58 |
| Symmetria | haha so like, I was cranking some music this morning, so my neighbor comes knocking on the door and I'm like, shit, he's come to moan at me about the volume, so I open the door and he's like, mannnn I aint heard that shit in years, can I get a copy?! | 05:59 |
| Symmetria | rotfl | 06:00 |
| superfly | hehehe | 06:00 |
| nuvolari | kbmonkey: ping | 06:07 |
| nuvolari | morning everyone | 06:10 |
| superfly | morning nuvolari | 06:29 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: môre oom | 07:20 |
| Kilos | more nuvolari het jy gewen? | 07:20 |
| Kilos | hi superfly | 07:21 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 07:21 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: nee oom, ek sal vanaand weer probeer | 07:21 |
| nuvolari | didn't have enough time and it got late | 07:21 |
| Kilos | yes when pc goes slow like that it takes forever to find an fix a prob | 07:22 |
| Kilos | was always easier to format and reinstall | 07:22 |
| Kilos | morning MxG | 07:23 |
| MxG | good morning | 07:23 |
| nuvolari | exactly oom Kilos | 07:28 |
| nuvolari | but I need to back up my dad's data | 07:28 |
| nuvolari | first | 07:28 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, did you get what i said last night above add/removing | 07:29 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 07:29 |
| * nuvolari checks | 07:39 | |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 07:40 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: oh, to find the app and remove that? | 07:40 |
| Kilos | yeah | 07:40 |
| Tonberry | hello | 07:41 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: ja nee oom... dis 'n mission, cursor moves 100px then freezes for ~8 seconds | 07:41 |
| Kilos | eish | 07:43 |
| Kilos | hi professorX | 07:43 |
| professorX | Hi guys...Missed yesterdays IRC meeting | 07:43 |
| nuvolari | bah | 07:43 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: ask kbmonkey whether his openbox also runs high CPU cycles | 07:44 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: Got it, I'll ask kbmonkey on freenode | 07:44 |
| Kilos | professorX, dont you get mails from our lists | 07:48 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 07:48 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "ask kbmonkey whether his openbox also runs high CPU cycles" 4 minutes and 13 seconds ago | 07:48 |
| kbmonkey | nope nuvolari it runs very low actually | 07:49 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 07:49 |
| kbmonkey | hello Kilos! | 07:50 |
| * kbmonkey is drinking a banana smoothie | 07:50 | |
| Kilos | lol | 07:51 |
| kbmonkey | hi there professorX | 07:51 |
| kbmonkey | for interest there are minutes of the meet at http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-07-18-17-35-25.html | 07:52 |
| superfly | http://dilbert.com/dyn_file/str_strip/128086/gif/strip.print/ | 07:57 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, tell nuvolari for uptime of 9 days, average cpu usage for openbox sits at 0% (ps -o '%cpu' -C openbox) | 07:59 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: Got it, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode | 07:59 |
| kbmonkey | love dilbert :) | 08:00 |
| inetpro | good morning | 08:05 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 08:05 |
| kbmonkey | hi inetpro | 08:05 |
| inetpro | heh Kilos | 08:05 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: thanks for the link to the minutes | 08:05 |
| inetpro | hi kbmonkey | 08:05 |
| * inetpro noticed some very interesting new nicknames during the meeting | 08:06 | |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:07 |
| inetpro | seems like some guys are seriously lost :-) | 08:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:07 |
| kbmonkey | hehe | 08:07 |
| Kilos | and never found | 08:07 |
| kbmonkey | apie wasnt there though | 08:08 |
| Kilos | he is not a nag apie | 08:08 |
| kbmonkey | time to get back to my task list. play nicely now :] | 08:11 |
| Kilos | ya ya | 08:12 |
| superfly | bah, he left | 08:57 |
| superfly | Maaz: tell kbmonkey what's your username on ubuntu-za.org ? | 08:57 |
| Maaz | superfly: Righto, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode | 08:57 |
| joshua__ | hi people :) | 12:18 |
| nuvolari | hi jo<tab> | 13:03 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: By the way, kbmonkey on freenode told me "tell nuvolari for uptime of 9 days, average cpu usage for openbox sits at 0% (ps -o '%cpu' -C openbox)" 5 hours, 3 minutes and 33 seconds ago | 13:03 |
| * nuvolari shakes head. | 13:03 | |
| nuvolari | people that quit after 1 breath | 13:03 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: tell kbmonkey thanks. Any issues when setting up? I still have the issue :-/ | 13:04 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: Sure, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode | 13:04 |
| apie | I installed Openbox as the default with the distro so there was no setup issues nuvolari | 13:09 |
| apie | does it run with a constant high cpu %? | 13:09 |
| apie | and is this on Ubuntu? | 13:10 |
| apie | Have a poke around this bug report, it's incomplete, perhaps they could use the info - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/746875 | 13:12 |
| apie | also check what is in your .config/openbox/autostart.sh file, if a subprocess might be an issue | 13:13 |
| Symmetria | *hrm* | 13:47 |
| Symmetria | its really quite amazing what percentage of connects to mirror.ac.za are sourceforge and mozilla combined | 13:47 |
| Symmetria | holy crap, does no one at stellenbosch do ANY work | 13:50 |
| Symmetria | I just looked at the number of facebook.com dns queries coming through on a per second basis | 13:50 |
| Symmetria | 13 queries a second outta stellenbosch for facebook.com and sub hosts | 13:51 |
| queery | Symmetria, remember everyone just got back from holiday | 14:28 |
| queery | most of them did not have internet at home | 14:29 |
| queery | and is to dumb to use there phones | 14:29 |
| drubin | Symmetria: holy cow.. and clients generally cache dns queries ;/ holy cow! | 14:43 |
| Tonberry | lol | 14:43 |
| Symmetria | heh the number of dns queries we do per second to stuff like mirror.ac.za is also pretty damn scary | 14:45 |
| Symmetria | mirror.ac.za takes 50 to 60 hits a second at the moment | 14:45 |
| Symmetria | and peaks at 200 hits a second when mozilla does a release | 14:46 |
| Kilos | hey Symmetria | 14:46 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 14:46 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 14:46 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, move it | 14:49 |
| Maaz | Don't rush me Kilos . Making decent coffee is an art | 14:49 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 14:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 14:50 |
| Maaz | Enjoy Kilos | 14:50 |
| queery | Maaz, botsnack | 14:55 |
| Maaz | queery: :-) | 14:55 |
| === apie is now known as kbmonkey | ||
| Kilos | dag apie | 15:00 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee please | 15:00 |
| Kilos | eish | 15:00 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: There isn't a pot on | 15:00 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey what's your username on ubuntu-za.org ?" 6 hours, 2 minutes and 31 seconds ago | 15:00 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey thanks. Any issues when setting up? I still have the issue :-/" 1 hour, 55 minutes and 57 seconds ago | 15:00 |
| Kilos | blerry ding is weg met die vrugte | 15:00 |
| kbmonkey | he he | 15:00 |
| kbmonkey | is nuvolari around? | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ping him | 15:03 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee on | 15:03 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 15:03 | |
| Kilos | or poke him | 15:03 |
| Kilos | with a sharp stick | 15:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 15:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 15:04 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos! | 15:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz, dankie man | 15:08 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier my vriend | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | ha ha sure I'll try that Kilos | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | thanks Maaz | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, dankie my vriend | 15:08 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: Sorry... | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | :( | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | hy like nie apies vandag nie | 15:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:08 |
| Kilos | ek dink daai thunderbird prob is reg | 15:09 |
| Kilos | aptitude reinstall | 15:09 |
| kbmonkey | thunderbird probleem? | 15:12 |
| Kilos | daai een van langjan | 15:13 |
| Kilos | met die snaakse karacters wat gedooi het | 15:14 |
| Kilos | die ballie kry bietjie swaar. kinders is daar vir die week om te groet voor hulle vertrek os toe | 15:15 |
| kbmonkey | oh ja? moet seker lekker wees om bietjie met die family te wees | 15:16 |
| Kilos | bbl | 15:22 |
| queery_ | not again | 15:23 |
| Symmetria | *HRM* | 15:23 |
| === queery_ is now known as queery | ||
| Symmetria | you got disconnected? thats odd | 15:23 |
| Symmetria | since you're on the same network as I am | 15:23 |
| Symmetria | and I stayed stable | 15:23 |
| queery | no I swiched from wifi to wired | 15:25 |
| queery | hehe and there was a VPN involved | 15:25 |
| Symmetria | aaahh ok :) was worried for a second :P | 15:25 |
| queery | hehe sorry ;-P | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | because nothing showed up on my alert system | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | :P | 15:26 |
| queery | hehe thanx for taking care of us | 15:26 |
| queery | oh btw apparently its a major hack to get mirrors.ac.za for free for us | 15:26 |
| queery | or sosaid IT today | 15:26 |
| Symmetria | *snort* Im not gonna comment on that setup at sun | 15:28 |
| queery | haha | 15:28 |
| Symmetria | billing students for bandwidth based on volume has always been something I've been rather opposed to | 15:28 |
| queery | yea | 15:28 |
| queery | so are we | 15:28 |
| queery | believe me | 15:28 |
| Symmetria | heh, you know how many times I get asked if we charge universities by volume | 15:29 |
| Symmetria | and the answer is always the same, no no and no | 15:29 |
| queery | but they are scared they wont be able to pay you | 15:29 |
| queery | I know | 15:29 |
| Symmetria | heh, dude, the thing is, if they cut the price they'd have higher usage and pull the same revenue | 15:29 |
| Symmetria | and the after hours traffic on the graphs clearly shows this | 15:29 |
| queery | jip | 15:29 |
| Symmetria | the cut rate traffic at stellenbosch is *WAY* higher than the during hours traffic | 15:29 |
| queery | they are also scared the firewall wont handle it | 15:30 |
| queery | they don't want massive traffic during the day | 15:30 |
| queery | but yea | 15:31 |
| queery | any way | 15:31 |
| queery | let me get back to work | 15:31 |
| Symmetria | queery LOL, they have soooo much capacity available | 15:47 |
| Symmetria | they may as well use it | 15:47 |
| queery | Symmetria, ok that wasn't me | 16:18 |
| Symmetria | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1507803/Comedian_Johnny_Marbles_attacks_Rupert_Murdoch_at_hearing.jpg | 16:42 |
| Symmetria | ROTFL | 16:42 |
| queery | Symmetria, if they let every student pay R35/month they can give us uncaped ;-P | 16:48 |
| queery | and that would mean that the staff don't have to pay for ne | 16:48 |
| queery | *net | 16:48 |
| Symmetria | heh | 16:50 |
| queery | can you throttle torrenting at your end? | 16:52 |
| Symmetria | we could yes, though we'd resist doing so | 16:53 |
| Symmetria | I dont believe in throttling :P | 16:53 |
| queery | I ment only for our traffic | 16:54 |
| queery | hehe | 16:54 |
| queery | but to keep us from overwelming the network | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | dude, you have so much free capacity | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | it would be hard to overwhelm it | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | :P | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | and charge everyone 50 bux instead of 35 and get double the international | 16:54 |
| queery | haha you don't know students | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | queery you know that wits doesnt block that shit? | 16:54 |
| queery | yea | 16:54 |
| Symmetria | and doesnt charge and doesnt quota :P | 16:55 |
| queery | but how does there billing work? | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | they dont charge | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | at all | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | http://monitor.net.tenet.ac.za/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=3&leaf_id=151 | 16:55 |
| queery | so free for all | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | and their bandwidth graphs are pretty healthy | 16:55 |
| queery | do they have the same kinda line as we have | 16:55 |
| Symmetria | heh, doesnt matter, they still arent using as much capacity as is available on your line | 16:56 |
| Symmetria | dude, stellenbosch has a gigabit circuit in there, and like, 150+ meg of international, look at their utilization | 16:56 |
| queery | I know | 16:56 |
| queery | question is if our firewall would be able to handle that kind of traffic | 16:57 |
| queery | but they are looking at new ones | 16:57 |
| queery | then agaiin | 16:57 |
| Symmetria | LOL, upgrade the damn thing | 16:57 |
| queery | if there is no billing the firewall would not have that big an issue | 16:57 |
| Symmetria | if it WONT handle, wtf is going to happen when we install the 10G link? | 16:57 |
| queery | my point exactly | 16:57 |
| Tonberry | they are putting the buying of a new firewall through their entire bureaucratic process | 16:58 |
| Tonberry | so it could take years... | 16:58 |
| queery | also true | 16:59 |
| queery | but take off the builling and this firewall would do fine | 16:59 |
| queery | don't you think? | 16:59 |
| Symmetria | heh, I doubt it, thats a very old firewall | 17:00 |
| Symmetria | heh, dude, that firewall was designed to handle things way before the gigabit era | 17:00 |
| Tonberry | it wont survive 10g | 17:00 |
| Tonberry | but without billing it should be fine on 1 | 17:00 |
| Tonberry | i think | 17:01 |
| Tonberry | it suvived 600mb | 17:01 |
| Tonberry | then again | 17:01 |
| Tonberry | who knows | 17:01 |
| queery | is wits al aan die gang? | 17:01 |
| queery | what was there peak Symmetria | 17:02 |
| Symmetria | heh in tests I've done through wits firewall we've hit over a gig | 17:05 |
| Symmetria | the normally peak at around 500 - 600 | 17:05 |
| Symmetria | heh, wits traffic itself on the circuit *COULD* go as high as 10gig, but I've never actually seen them use more than around 500 - 600 at peak usage | 17:06 |
| queery | Tonberry, whats our peak | 17:06 |
| queery | usually | 17:07 |
| Symmetria | (we have a backbone node at wits, so *TECHNICALLY* there is like, 50 gig of bandwidth into the wits server room, but we only hand off a single 10G to wits itself) | 17:07 |
| Tonberry | havn't checked in a while | 17:07 |
| Symmetria | actually, lemme check how much bandwidth actually runs into wits | 17:07 |
| queery | what 50 gig! | 17:07 |
| Symmetria | *hrm* there are 140gig worth of interfaces on the wits router that are up, 2 of which are internal 10G links, so 120gig | 17:08 |
| Symmetria | on the core router | 17:08 |
| Symmetria | though you can discount half of those for client shit, so probably around 50gig of actual backbone bandwidth | 17:08 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:08 |
| * queery faints | 17:08 | |
| Symmetria | heh, pretoria has another 30gig | 17:09 |
| Symmetria | capetown has 40 or 50 | 17:09 |
| Symmetria | port elizabeth has 20 | 17:09 |
| Symmetria | durban has 40 | 17:09 |
| Symmetria | east london has 20 | 17:09 |
| Symmetria | bloemfontein has 20 | 17:09 |
| queery | so wtf don't the varsity want us to do this? | 17:09 |
| queery | Im | 17:09 |
| queery | starting a survey | 17:10 |
| queery | I swear | 17:10 |
| Symmetria | queery hehe in total aggregate circuit capacity on the network | 17:10 |
| queery | ok after my thesis | 17:10 |
| Symmetria | with all client circuits and backbone circuits combined | 17:10 |
| Symmetria | we're pushing around 400 - 500 gigabit/second | 17:10 |
| Symmetria | infact we may have already passed the half a terabit mark | 17:10 |
| queery | and internationally? | 17:10 |
| Symmetria | :p and from early next year we'll go from 10G international to 20G international | 17:10 |
| queery | oh | 17:11 |
| queery | wow | 17:11 |
| Symmetria | and that will expand by 2014 to 50 gig international | 17:11 |
| * queery is so pissed that he is finishing his degree this year | 17:11 | |
| Symmetria | (infact if I succeed, it will go way beyond 50, but 50 by 2014 or 2015 is pretty much guaranteed) | 17:11 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, have I ever shown you the speed I can transfer single files from london to .za at? | 17:11 |
| queery | you have not | 17:11 |
| Symmetria | hold | 17:12 |
| Symmetria | this is a 1gig test file | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | of uncompressable data | 17:13 |
| queery | ok | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | tsunami> get test.zzz | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | Transfer complete. Flushing to disk and signaling server to stop... | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | !!!! | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | PC performance figure : 0 packets dropped (if high this indicates receiving PC overload) | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | Transfer duration : 10.86 seconds | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | Final file rate : 761.99 Mbps | 17:13 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:13 |
| * queery faints again | 17:14 | |
| Symmetria | LOL and thats only using 7% of the international capacity | 17:14 |
| queery | there goes the pidgin test theory | 17:14 |
| Symmetria | heh, if I do that using ram disks | 17:14 |
| Symmetria | instead of harddrives | 17:14 |
| Symmetria | Transfer duration : 6.61 seconds | 17:14 |
| Symmetria | Final file rate : 1250.69 Mbps | 17:14 |
| queery | haha | 17:14 |
| queery | omg | 17:14 |
| Symmetria | queery LOL wait, will show u other incredibleness | 17:15 |
| queery | I have to work | 17:15 |
| Symmetria | people often go, thats just on your backbone | 17:15 |
| Symmetria | watch this... | 17:15 |
| queery | haha | 17:15 |
| Symmetria | hold :) its transferring something quick | 17:16 |
| queery | ok | 17:16 |
| queery | is your network gay, i'd like to marry it... | 17:16 |
| Symmetria | aalston@ub-server-2:~/temp$ wget -4 -O /dev/null ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-CD-51.iso | 17:17 |
| Symmetria | 2011-07-19 19:17:26 (53.8 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [679886848] | 17:17 |
| Symmetria | thats straight off the internet :P | 17:17 |
| Symmetria | and thats using less than 0.1% of the capacity on our internet circuits | 17:17 |
| queery | fok | 17:17 |
| Symmetria | heh in actual capacity to the internet we have a total of 70gig and thats expanding to 80 shortly | 17:18 |
| Symmetria | if I add up all the peering/transit circuits | 17:18 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:18 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, the TENET network has the *ONLY* single aggregated 10gig circuit into africa at the moment as far as I know, unless someone turned up one recently | 17:18 |
| Symmetria | I.S/Neotel/Mweb etc, are all running 2.5gig or multiple 2.5gig circuits | 17:18 |
| queery | so that's a no on the marriage | 17:19 |
| queery | hehe | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | MTZ-UB1#show interfaces pos3/0/0 | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | POS3/0/0 is up, line protocol is up (APS working - active) | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | Hardware is Packet over Sonet | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | Description: STM64 Durban -> London | SEACOM LN4/MTZ/64C/001/M | protection | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | MTU 9216 bytes, BW 9584000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | heh direct circuit to London | 17:19 |
| Symmetria | 30 second input rate 1305078000 bits/sec, 155860 packets/sec | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | 30 second output rate 607534000 bits/sec, 118130 packets/sec | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | at 13% utilization :P | 17:20 |
| queery | isn't it going to wast | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | 19792932660 packets input, 20902806879257 bytes, 0 no buffer | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | :P someone work that out in gigabytes | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | since last counter reset | 17:20 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, its bought as a single once off capex purchase, we dont pay anything if we use it or dont use it | 17:20 |
| queery | with people like the varsity not using it to its full capacity | 17:20 |
| queery | still | 17:21 |
| Symmetria | heh its doing around 19 terabytes of data a day :P | 17:21 |
| queery | oh | 17:21 |
| Barco | That's a few libraries for you ;) | 17:21 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, the thing is, there are economics involved, the universities pay for international bandwidth on a per megabit/second/month basis because we have to recover the cost of what we paid fo that circuit | 17:21 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, I can give you other scary stats :P | 17:22 |
| Symmetria | our network to our varsities from our local serving system (NOT coming over the international line) serves 7 terabytes a day of youtube :P | 17:22 |
| Symmetria | actually, I lie, its about 11 terabytes a day | 17:22 |
| queery | haha | 17:22 |
| queery | but some of that is already cached | 17:23 |
| Symmetria | heh, we run at between 70 and 150 hits a second to mirror.ac.za | 17:23 |
| Symmetria | queery heh, its still an INSANE amount of youtube :P | 17:23 |
| queery | it is | 17:23 |
| queery | ok I have 40 min to do 2 days worth of work | 17:23 |
| Symmetria | queery not to mention that around 11% of total web urls browsed end in facebook.com | 17:23 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:23 |
| queery | haha | 17:23 |
| Symmetria | dunno how much that amounts to in traffic, but not much | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | there are more hits to facebook.com though than to google.com | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:24 |
| queery | well before facebook it was porn | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | queery LOL I refuse to run the porn stats :P | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | because Im scared of what I would find :P | 17:24 |
| queery | haha | 17:24 |
| queery | it's less than facebook | 17:24 |
| queery | I can assure you | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | heh maybe in hits | 17:24 |
| Symmetria | Im not so sure in traffic volumes :P[ | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | facebook isnt bandwidth heavy, porn is :P | 17:25 |
| queery | oh true | 17:25 |
| queery | you'd know ;P | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | hahaha no I have beetter things to use bandwidth for | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | who needs porn, go make your own | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:25 |
| Symmetria | anyway Im off to read books and chill :) later man | 17:26 |
| queery | I was talking about that litle porn site of yours ;P | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | haha | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | dude if I ran a porn site | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | I'd be driving an aston martin | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | instead of a bmw | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | :P | 17:26 |
| queery | you would have the best speed? | 17:26 |
| queery | haha | 17:26 |
| queery | anyway | 17:26 |
| queery | l8ers | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | I have expensive car tastes | 17:26 |
| Symmetria | :P later man | 17:26 |
| highvoltage | Symmetria: wow that makes you so unique! | 17:28 |
| Symmetria | highvoltage lol no what makes me a little more unique is that I have no impulse control and keep spending 2 much bloody money buying cars lol and then wondering why Im broke :P | 17:29 |
| highvoltage | yeah the rest of the world obviously has very good control and don't overspend at all. | 17:31 |
| Kilos | evening all | 17:32 |
| superfly | Kilos: hiya | 17:32 |
| Kilos | one question. i am using xchat. will having 4 channels open here use more data than only one? | 17:33 |
| Kilos | the connection to freenode used over a meg this morning. all else was closed | 17:35 |
| Kilos | maybe is weechat lighter | 17:35 |
| superfly | Kilos: no, all IRC clients will use the same amount of data | 17:36 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 17:36 |
| superfly | Kilos: but having more than one channel will use more data too | 17:36 |
| Symmetria | depends how busy those channels are as well | 17:37 |
| Kilos | i tried to get jedirc on the fone but it opened a normal website and that sucks on a fone | 17:37 |
| Symmetria | I mean, 10 channels where hardly anyone says anything is gonna use very little data | 17:37 |
| Symmetria | 5 very busy channels (like trivia channels) can actually use a fair bit | 17:37 |
| Kilos | right i will close others | 17:37 |
| Symmetria | my irc logs over the last 2 years are something like 45gig big | 17:38 |
| Symmetria | kilos, its still negligable amounts of data | 17:38 |
| Symmetria | nothing thats going to really have any effect on anything | 17:38 |
| Barco | any ubuntu talk scheduled in the house tonight? | 17:38 |
| Symmetria | heh, kilos put it this way, running an efnet irc server with 65k users on the network uses less than 3mbit/second of constant bandwidth | 17:38 |
| Kilos | ty Symmetria but it all adds up | 17:38 |
| Kilos | hi Barco do you need help? | 17:38 |
| Symmetria | infact it normally sits at about half a megabit/second | 17:39 |
| Kilos | whew | 17:39 |
| superfly | Symmetria: when you've someone like Kilos who lives on other people's donations, every KB counts | 17:39 |
| Barco | I need help with ltsp on Edubuntu | 17:39 |
| superfly | Barco: highvoltage knows a bit about that | 17:39 |
| Kilos | Barco, state your problem and someone will help you | 17:40 |
| Symmetria | kilos, lol, I'm in almost 80 channels across 7 different networks, and only doing 45gig in 3 years, thats 1.25gigs a month, if you divide that by 20 to get to 4 channels you're using 62.5meg a month, and thats if you're in some very very busy channels :) | 17:40 |
| Symmetria | superfly true, but I doubt those 4 channels are eating more than 20 or 30 meg a month :) | 17:40 |
| Barco | Need help getting terminals customised | 17:40 |
| Barco | want to get rid of unity and add a default homepage to Firefox(loaded as local app) | 17:41 |
| Kilos | lol. Symmetria there can be noone chatting here but iftop shows the freenode connection using data all the time | 17:42 |
| Barco | information I found on the web is quite sketchy - any good command reference anyone can recommend? | 17:43 |
| Kilos | Barco, just be patient someone who knows what you need to do will help as soon as they get a chance | 17:43 |
| Kilos | but welcome to ubuntu-za | 17:43 |
| Symmetria | kilo, you will pick up more background traffic on the internet than freenode idle traffic :P | 17:44 |
| Barco | Thanx Kilos, I will do. | 17:44 |
| Kilos | Symmetria, is there a way to stop the background traffic and just get whats going in and out here | 17:46 |
| Kilos | thats only a few K's a day | 17:47 |
| highvoltage | Barco: howdy | 17:48 |
| Barco | Hi, Highvoltage | 17:49 |
| highvoltage | Barco: if you want classic desktop instead of unity for ltsp you can put this in your lts.conf file: | 17:49 |
| highvoltage | LDM_XSESSION="gnome-session --session=classic-gnome" | 17:49 |
| highvoltage | Barco: for firefox, chech /etc/mozilla-firefox/pref/firefox.js, you can set system-wide firefox settings there | 17:50 |
| highvoltage | Barco: you could get the LTSP manual here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/LTSPManual.pdf/download | 17:51 |
| Barco | Thanx for your advice! first time I see the manual | 17:52 |
| Barco | Any advice on optimising performance on clients? Network seems to drag. | 17:54 |
| Barco | running 1GB server lan and 100mbps on clients but some seem sluggish | 17:55 |
| highvoltage | Barco: yep, somewhere int he manual it should say something about LDM_DIRECTX | 17:57 |
| highvoltage | Barco: enabling that greatly increases performance | 17:57 |
| Barco | that's great I'll go read the manual before asking more about ltsp ;) | 18:01 |
| Barco | thanks Highvoltage | 18:01 |
| highvoltage | Barco: feel free to ask anytime. the manual should be pretty comprehensive though. there's also an #edubuntu and #ltsp channel you could use | 18:03 |
| Barco | been on the ltsp channel - not much activity there. might have been there wrong time. | 18:05 |
| Barco | when will the edubuntu<sp channels have a meet like this. | 18:06 |
| Kilos | Barco, you can join those channels from here | 18:06 |
| Kilos | type in /j ltsp | 18:07 |
| Kilos | and the #edubuntu channels has 28 peepps there right now | 18:09 |
| Kilos | peeps | 18:09 |
| Kilos | you will most likely find someone online there at any time | 18:09 |
| Barco | I'll load up a bigger browser using blackberry now | 18:10 |
| Kilos | sorry thats should be /j #ltsp | 18:10 |
| Kilos | eish sorry man | 18:10 |
| Kilos | night everyone. sleep tight | 18:46 |
| nuvolari | o/ | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | lo everyone | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | kbmonkey: ping | 18:51 |
| nuvolari | ooh, all of a sudden my cpu usage is down \o/ | 18:54 |
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