| Unit193 | pleia2: You just want the pre-upgrade images? (Like what we have +1?) | 04:08 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | oh yes | 04:09 |
| Unit193 | No need to get the upgrade? That really cuts down on the time! | 04:09 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 04:09 |
| pleia2 | doing mav to natty, or..? | 04:09 |
| Unit193 | Yep! | 04:10 |
| pleia2 | cool | 04:10 |
| pleia2 | so yeah, just duplicates of everything on /getubuntu | 04:10 |
| Unit193 | I thought I would have to actually DO the upgrade! \o/ (After doing install) | 04:12 |
| pleia2 | also I just realized that page is called getubuntu ...ubuntu? huh. | 04:12 |
| Unit193 | That's what the one guy pointed out | 04:13 |
| pleia2 | going through beardygnome's website review post now to file some more bugs | 04:13 |
| Unit193 | Anything else I can help with? (About to post them to the bugreport) | 04:14 |
| Unit193 | BTW, when I first installed, it already knew about the upgrade so I couldn't get http://xubuntu.org/sites/default/files/update-manager-updates_0.png | 04:15 |
| pleia2 | since you're on the upgrade screens can you sanity-check the portion of beardygnome's email about upgrades? it's at the bottom of the mail (I can link to it if you don't have the email to -devel handy) | 04:15 |
| Unit193 | He is correct, it's in the Update Manager program | 04:19 |
| Unit193 | And I know it's Xubuntu Session | 04:20 |
| pleia2 | ok cool, thanks | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | unit193.imgur.com/xubuntu_update Good? I still have it if you need more | 04:25 |
| pleia2 | checking | 04:32 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: One last idiot question: Do I make more than one bug comment? I only see one upload space | 04:33 |
| pleia2 | hm, is that the default theme? | 04:33 |
| pleia2 | you should probably just leave a comment and email me the images: lyz@ubuntu.com | 04:33 |
| Unit193 | Yes | 04:33 |
| pleia2 | ok cool, these are probably fine, I'm going to finish bg's email and I'll let you know if I have any questions when I get to that section | 04:34 |
| pleia2 | bad gmail, Unit193 not spam! | 04:47 |
| pleia2 | bad Unit193, spaces in filenames! | 04:48 |
| pleia2 | :) | 04:48 |
| Unit193 | pleia2: I know, most of the time I don't (And maybe I AM spam! ;) ) | 04:51 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 04:52 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: updated with better text and your screenshots, look good? http://xubuntu.org/getubuntu | 04:57 |
| Unit193 | Update Manager is a program, not a menu. Does that come across? | 04:59 |
| pleia2 | I think so, the text previously was similar | 05:00 |
| Unit193 | Mk. Doesn't fully work on 1024x768, but I'm not sure you need it to. It's all good! | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | the site? | 05:04 |
| pleia2 | oh I see, the images fall off the edge | 05:04 |
| Unit193 | Yep. No other need for my VM? | 05:04 |
| pleia2 | nope, we're set | 05:04 |
| pleia2 | thank you! | 05:04 |
| Unit193 | Sure! Let me know if I can do anything else! | 05:05 |
| pleia2 | will do :) | 05:05 |
| Unit193 | Ah, you going to mark the bug as fixed? | 05:16 |
| pleia2 | have done | 05:17 |
| Unit193 | Oh, I thought it would email me, I fail | 05:19 |
| pleia2 | it may eventually, launchpad emails take a long time lately (like 20 minutes sometimes!) | 05:19 |
| pleia2 | just updated a few minutesago | 05:19 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: the xubuntu-exclude-blabla... patch is now upstream | 09:09 |
| jarnos | I installed by a two days old iso, but oneiric does not let me log in. | 11:53 |
| jarnos | Any chance it is fixed in today's iso? | 11:56 |
| astraljava | jarnos: Did you install from the desktop image, or the alternate? | 11:56 |
| astraljava | jarnos: Well, at least there is a new desktop image today, whee! | 11:57 |
| astraljava | jarnos: If you can wait a while, I'll let you know. | 11:57 |
| astraljava | Big changes, almost 25% difference. | 11:58 |
| jarnos | astraljava, I got it from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ There is only alternate installs available there. | 12:01 |
| astraljava | jarnos: Ahh... alright. So, how did it fail to log you in? How did you try? | 12:09 |
| astraljava | jarnos: For me, it only worked if you clicked on Other..., then presented your username, chose the Xubuntu session, and then typed in the passwd. | 12:09 |
| jarnos | astraljava, i clicked on my name in the login screen. Then only background image was visible anymore. | 12:12 |
| jarnos | astraljava, I'll try by the Other way. | 12:13 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 13:50 |
| GridCube | good and cold | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | really? | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | about 15C / 59F here | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | Going to be another really hot day, since it is only 7:51 AM | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | I think the images should be working today | 13:51 |
| GridCube | 7.1ºC | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | No tests recorded yesterday | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | yikes! | 13:52 |
| GridCube | and its noon | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | That's cold | 13:52 |
| GridCube | will try to do two today, alternate and desktop | 13:53 |
| charlie-tca | That would be great! | 13:54 |
| charlie-tca | look for live sessions to start working soon, too | 13:54 |
| ochosi | GridCube: do you use compiz btw? | 14:25 |
| GridCube | nope | 14:25 |
| GridCube | i used it once or twice | 14:26 |
| ochosi | k, nvm | 14:26 |
| GridCube | :) | 14:26 |
| GridCube | i can use it if you need testing | 14:26 |
| ochosi | if you know someone who could test greybird's emerald theme for me, let me know :) | 14:26 |
| ochosi | well only if it's not too much hassle for you or if you have the spare time | 14:27 |
| ochosi | i mean there must be xubuntu compiz users somewhere out there | 14:27 |
| GridCube | sure thing, but when im home, not at work where im stuck whit XP | 14:27 |
| GridCube | ooooo wait... i have a spare computer here... :D i can bring my xubuntu-tesiting hd! | 14:28 |
| ochosi | :) | 14:29 |
| * charlie-tca won't even attempt testing anything "compiz". It just doesn't work for me | 14:31 | |
| ochosi | yeah, no worries, i mean i *know* the metacity theme is ok | 14:32 |
| ochosi | but someone complained about the emerald theme not working | 14:32 |
| ochosi | but since it works for me i wanted to confirm it | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | It has been broken for about two or more releases, since they stopped updating it for Ubuntu. | 14:34 |
| ochosi | yeah, i know. but there's a ppa somewhere | 14:35 |
| charlie-tca | And there are users that want to have compiz and emerald using Xubuntu | 14:37 |
| ochosi | yes, unfortunately... | 14:38 |
| ochosi | i mean i understand that emerald is more flexible/configurable than metacity, but it's just *so* unstable | 14:38 |
| ochosi | anyway, now at least they can't complain about lack of support on our side anymore ;) | 14:38 |
| GridCube | :D | 14:40 |
| GridCube | gods im freezing | 14:41 |
| GridCube | tea time! | 14:41 |
| charlie-tca | people across the USA complaining about the heat, and you are freezing? | 14:47 |
| * charlie-tca notes the temperature here is rising about 1C every hour | 14:48 | |
| charlie-tca | so, GridCube, anyway to trade some of my heat here for the cooler temps there? | 15:03 |
| GridCube | indeed | 15:05 |
| GridCube | you do some global warming and we are done (?) | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | hehe | 15:11 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: great, thanks! | 15:15 |
| GridCube | sent the mail to the dev list regarding gimp :D | 16:52 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, GridCube | 16:54 |
| micahg | GridCube: you might have missed the backlash when Ubuntu removed GIMP from the default install back in Lucid | 16:57 |
| GridCube | O_o it did? | 16:57 |
| charlie-tca | That's why I suggested the ML, instead of just saying "No way, are you nuts?" | 16:57 |
| ochosi | lol | 16:57 |
| ochosi | GridCube: well at least now you know what charlie thinks about it ;D | 16:58 |
| GridCube | I have never found gimp any usabilty what so ever, maybe really rarely, but if i need to edit an image i just use other stuff, gimp is just to much | 16:59 |
| ochosi | hm, dunno, actually i've always been pretty happy with gimp | 16:59 |
| charlie-tca | Must be a new gimp user, huh? | 16:59 |
| GridCube | wouldn't it be cool to have "choose your apps" when installing? | 16:59 |
| ochosi | but i'm not sure i'm representative, because i tend to do a lot of graphical stuff | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | I have used gimp a lot, since I switched to Ubuntu back in 2005 | 17:00 |
| micahg | GridCube: you'd need a DVD install to do something like that | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | but I would go with the majority on it, I guess | 17:00 |
| GridCube | not whit a netinstall | 17:00 |
| ochosi | GridCube: iirc edubuntu tried that in their natty, maybe it's worth asking them about it | 17:00 |
| GridCube | i see | 17:00 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: what do you with those with expensive connections, doing netinstalls? | 17:01 |
| GridCube | well not for everyone | 17:01 |
| GridCube | i mean debian has 46 cds bro | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | We try hard to give everyone the same experience, whether installing by cd or net | 17:01 |
| GridCube | i see | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | yup, and we have one | 17:01 |
| GridCube | well my idea is pretty simple, i think that gimp, on xubuntu, is too much | 17:02 |
| ochosi | hm, actually i'm not sure that choosing your software when installing is a wise approach. you can choose your software *after* installing anyway and it's nice to deliver good defaults. | 17:02 |
| charlie-tca | We give a usable installation on one cd, which makes it pretty good for all users. Download 700MB and use the computer | 17:02 |
| GridCube | well yes | 17:02 |
| GridCube | you are correct | 17:02 |
| * GridCube still doesn't like gimp | 17:03 | |
| * ochosi is not sure that that's sufficient to drop gimp | 17:03 | |
| GridCube | XD | 17:04 |
| GridCube | i've given my reasons on the mail | 17:05 |
| charlie-tca | That gives others a chance to add a yes or no and reasons for their choice. | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | gimp is a bit controversial to discuss | 17:08 |
| GridCube | why? | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | see above short discussion :) | 17:13 |
| GridCube | don't people change firefox for chromium or midori? aint that even more controversial? | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | sure, users do | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | chromium has been brought up every UDS and release | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | midori keeps coming up for us, but it ain't happened yet, has it? | 17:14 |
| GridCube | nope | 17:17 |
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| Unit193 | Temperature: 94.5 °F | Feels Like 119 °F || I always use FF unless the computer can't handle it. I should be able to test something today | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | great! | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | looks warm there, though | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | "only" 84 F here now | 18:22 |
| micahg | mythbuntu went for chromium | 18:55 |
| GridCube | i dont know franheits :( | 18:55 |
| micahg | 91F here | 18:55 |
| micahg | 33C for GridCube's benefit | 18:56 |
| GridCube | 47.84F | 18:56 |
| GridCube | XD thats what my conversor says | 18:57 |
| GridCube | 8.8C at 15:51hs | 18:57 |
| GridCube | okay! leaving work now! | 18:59 |
| GridCube | :D see you in a couple of hours | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | beardygnome: thank you very much for doing that review | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | It did start a bit of discussion, even. | 19:04 |
| beardygnome | no problem charlie | 19:04 |
| beardygnome | i hope to get to the team specific parts before the next meeting | 19:05 |
| GridCube | mmm im doing the desktop test for today's image | 22:45 |
| GridCube | and it fails | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | live session? | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | or an install? | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | Live failed for me | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think we have live working yet | 22:47 |
| GridCube | live went all black | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | but, I am hoping for this week, maybe? | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 22:47 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: What type? I'll do autoresize if you are doing normal | 22:47 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: been doing that since we started using lightdm | 22:47 |
| GridCube | but install gives me this; http://imagebin.org/163873 | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | You can run the install xubuntu from the menu, though | 22:48 |
| charlie-tca | cancel, abort the installation, and try again | 22:48 |
| GridCube | i used the same disk i've been using to test alternate, so it was partitioned whit swap and / | 22:48 |
| GridCube | did that | 22:48 |
| GridCube | or you maen reboot? | 22:49 |
| charlie-tca | If you get the two times, file a bug against ubiquity and attach the image | 22:49 |
| charlie-tca | yup, after you abort, you have to reboot before it will install right | 22:49 |
| GridCube | okay | 22:49 |
| GridCube | the pymouth text says 11.04 | 22:50 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: Are you doing entire disk? | 22:51 |
| GridCube | yes | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | That's a bug too, if you didn't accidently get the image | 22:53 |
| Unit193 | It's always been 11.04, hasn't updated for this round | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | Well, that's still a bug | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | That's the kind of bug that we need, too, since it is easy to forget to do that. | 22:56 |
| Unit193 | I'll file once I get installed | 22:56 |
| Unit193 | Since it's not exactly a Plymouth bug, would that go agenst xubuntu-default-settings? | 22:58 |
| GridCube | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-screenshooter/+bug/813221 | 22:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 813221 in xfce4-screenshooter (Ubuntu) "xfce4-screenshot fails to "open whit" " [Undecided,New] | 22:58 |
| charlie-tca | That's a plymouth bug if it is telling us the wrong release, IIRC | 22:59 |
| charlie-tca | but, yes, I think it is against xubuntu-default-settings | 23:00 |
| charlie-tca | no it isn't | 23:00 |
| * charlie-tca slaps head | 23:00 | |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: it should be against xubuntu-artwork | 23:01 |
| GridCube | :D I helped ! | 23:02 |
| GridCube | D: It keeps telling me "that name already exist on the network" when editing th computer name | 23:04 |
| Unit193 | Go to the next text box and it's fixed | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | I noted that one before, but no bug files | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | s/files/filed | 23:07 |
| GridCube | it is something that might get people really confused | 23:08 |
| * GridCube points at himself | 23:08 | |
| Unit193 | Yes it is | 23:08 |
| GridCube | oh nice advertising like windows have :P | 23:09 |
| Unit193 | Yes, but you can ACTUALLY click on the support button :P | 23:09 |
| GridCube | jejeje | 23:09 |
| GridCube | XD | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | well, doesn the name already exist that you are using? | 23:12 |
| GridCube | no... | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | Then that is another bug. | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | ubuntu-bug ubiquity | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | since it is the desktop installer. I thought it was always right, since the names do exist here | 23:13 |
| Unit193 | I made some crazy names for it to pick | 23:13 |
| GridCube | well i changed it to a lot of names, and it always said it | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | I always use one of the 99 names I have defined | 23:13 |
| charlie-tca | one can file the bug, one can confirm it | 23:14 |
| GridCube | :P okay | 23:14 |
| charlie-tca | and one should add it the bug tracker for Xubuntu. | 23:15 |
| GridCube | in the spañish welcomer/installer/advertising there is a few misspellings | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | When I tell someone, we had ?? bugs in that release, they always wonder how I know ;) | 23:15 |
| GridCube | XD | 23:15 |
| charlie-tca | Those are translation bugs | 23:16 |
| GridCube | i agree | 23:16 |
| GridCube | XD | 23:16 |
| charlie-tca | You file them against xubuntu-artwork, and tell them exactly what they say and we send it to translations to get fixed | 23:16 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: I would assume you are going to file and I'll confirm? I can add it to the bug tracker if you don't want to | 23:16 |
| GridCube | its the same Unit193 :P i have to finish the installation first anyway | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | bug tracker is a wiki page, not the same | 23:17 |
| GridCube | charlie-tca, next time i will pay more attention | 23:17 |
| charlie-tca | right | 23:18 |
| GridCube | Unit193, oh, yes, i don't know how to do that | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | but it does let me have a pretty accurate count of bugs in the release | 23:18 |
| GridCube | :) | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | It's easy, especially if you have a launchpad login | 23:18 |
| Unit193 | I can edit the wiki | 23:19 |
| GridCube | now its taking its time on a black screen since like5 minutes ago | 23:25 |
| Unit193 | Hah! Killthebirdsinthefireplace isn't on the network :P | 23:29 |
| GridCube | ... still black | 23:30 |
| GridCube | :/ | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: time to upgrade; the screenshot open with bug is fixed in Oneiric | 23:38 |
| GridCube | oh... :( but i don't want to reconfigure stuff | 23:39 |
| charlie-tca | and there are a lot of changes already, too | 23:39 |
| GridCube | my screen still black | 23:40 |
| charlie-tca | on the install or the live session? | 23:43 |
| GridCube | on the install | 23:44 |
| GridCube | 25 minutes already | 23:44 |
| GridCube | on a tty top says its working | 23:45 |
| GridCube | on something | 23:45 |
| charlie-tca | which one? i386 full disk desktop? | 23:45 |
| GridCube | yes | 23:45 |
| charlie-tca | trying to reproduce that | 23:48 |
| charlie-tca | When should I see that? | 23:50 |
| GridCube | after the installer/advertising ends | 23:50 |
| GridCube | it just hanged | 23:50 |
| GridCube | :/ | 23:50 |
| charlie-tca | did you hit a key to restart? | 23:51 |
| GridCube | no | 23:51 |
| charlie-tca | or is the screensaver freezing the screen? | 23:51 |
| GridCube | it never asked for it | 23:51 |
| charlie-tca | try hitting enter on it anyway | 23:51 |
| GridCube | screensaver? | 23:51 |
| GridCube | no | 23:51 |
| GridCube | i get the "I'm working" pointer | 23:52 |
| GridCube | you know the circle that has a circling dot? | 23:52 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:52 |
| GridCube | that | 23:52 |
| charlie-tca | okay, hardware or vbox? | 23:52 |
| GridCube | vbox | 23:52 |
| GridCube | top says its working on somethng called "http" | 23:53 |
| charlie-tca | use the vbox control key + F2 to get to a tty, and then try to reset it by selecting Machine -> Ctrl-Alt-Del | 23:53 |
| GridCube | ok | 23:54 |
| GridCube | http://imagebin.org/163883 | 23:54 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, ubiquity is still running | 23:55 |
| charlie-tca | installing now | 23:56 |
| GridCube | :( | 23:57 |
| GridCube | now i got to a welcome screen | 23:57 |
| GridCube | but no tty's | 23:57 |
| GridCube | and if i choose my name it fails | 23:57 |
| GridCube | :/ i cant see grub either | 23:58 |
| GridCube | nope | 23:59 |
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