[00:09] good morning all [00:10] At least it will be when I can fix some stuff on here :) I've installed kubuntu 11.04, and having a few problems which i hope someone can help with, since they're pretty major ones. [00:11] firstly, i've managed to install ndiswrapper and set out the basics of my usb wifi stick, added the drivers etc, but it won't work. The networkmanager isn't detecting the presence of the interface, and I don't know where to configure the interface [00:12] I'm using the built in wifi, and it means me having to sit with my laptop perched on a windowledge 40ft off the floor to get a signal :) [00:13] anyone able to help me get it working please? [00:19] BarkingFish, i don't know a lot about wifi, maybe this troubleshooting page is any help > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide [00:20] ok, well I'm checking with #ubuntu also, but I'll take a look at that === tester is now known as bobweaver [00:38] BarkingFish: why are you huddling w/ ndiswrapper anyway? is there no native driver for your chipset? [00:47] szal: Not for my USB Stick, and I desperately need it working [00:47] The inbuilt wifi is natively supported using ath5k [00:48] what kind of chipset in the usb stick? [00:48] that's what I'm using now, but where I normally work inside, the signal from my local beacon is too weak [00:48] sithlord48: Atheros AR5523 [00:48] that should work via the ath5k driver [00:48] i use ndiswrapper with net5523.inf and athfmwdl.inf [00:48] sithlord48: no, it doesn't. [00:49] ath5k is for pci devices [00:49] it doesn't support the 5523 [00:49] it took me 4 weeks to get it to work on my last distro, i was hoping it would be a bit faster here :) [00:49] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ar5523 ? if you can compile it ? [00:50] let me see what goods i can dig up for you [00:50] thanks [00:50] so far i have the ndiswrapper driver install tool, which tells me the drivers are installed and the hardware is present [00:50] i can't help you with that i've only used it once [00:50] i have wicd which doesn't spot the interface, only wlan0 (this one) and the eth0 [00:51] iwconfig doesn't see it either. what I need is to find out how to associate the ndiswrapper install and the key with an interface config [00:52] have you seen the community docs ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper [00:53] not yet, i've been using kubuntu for just about an hour - i'm an immigrant from mandriva. [00:53] ah well, first welcome [00:53] i hope i have more fun with this than a distro which is bleeding developers and falling apart like a badly made chinese soft toy :) [00:53] thank you [00:53] the after you instaleld ndiswrapper have you loaded the driver module ? [00:54] modprobe ndiswrapper ? [00:54] you need a sudo first [00:54] yeah, done it [00:55] see section 3.5 of the community docs above, says do "sudo depmod -a" then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" [00:55] ok [00:56] right, both done [00:57] BarkingFish: Google search spewed out this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1012812 <- native support, though not perfect, as far as it looks (users report system instabilities) [00:57] yeah, if it's not stable, i'd prefer to go with ndiswrapper if i can get it to function [00:58] does lsmod show you having ndiswrapper loaded ? [00:58] ndiswrapper is perfectly happy with the drivers, says the device and both drivers are present (129b:160c with athfmwdl and net5523) [00:58] yes [00:59] do u need to black list the open driver? [00:59] i have no idea [00:59] generally two dirvers for one device = bad time [00:59] :) [01:00] i feel like a newbie again :) [01:00] where is the blacklist please, and how do I know which driver the device is using so I can blacklist it? [01:00] well i can't answer that for you (driver part) try the athfmwdl first? [01:01] right, well when I used the other distro, it needed both. one is the driver, the other is the firmware [01:01] oh well then thats not two drivers then (nvm) [01:02] net5523 is the driver, athfmwdl is the actual atheros firmware info [01:02] blacklist (system-wide; no idea whether ndiswrapper has its own) -> /etc/modules/blacklist.conf [01:02] okies, thanks szal. [01:03] * BarkingFish thinks he'd better start taking lots of notes [01:03] BarkingFish: sorry, my bad -> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [01:03] what I need to do then, is create an interface for the usb stick, and an interface configuration. [01:03] BarkingFish: you might want to look in to the native driver this thead is a year old perhaps the driver has improved ? [01:05] sorry for keep referring back to my old distro, but what I did there was create a file called ifcfg-wlan1, which contained all the information associated with the device. I still have a copy of it if you want to look and see the type of thing I mean, maybe you have something like this which i need to put somewhere. [01:06] not that i know of [01:08] well this is what it looked like, http://pastebin.com/VRzUdAFQ [01:08] yea never seen a file liek that before. [01:09] does iwconfig show the device? [01:10] no, unfortunately [01:10] it shows lo, eth0 and wlan0 (which is the built in) [01:11] i think I've just hit what's wrong [01:11] and I'm a doofus [01:11] ah love how it works like that some times :D [01:11] i went back to ndiswrapper -m (to write the modprobe conf) and it said it was writing an alias for wlan0 in modprobe.d/ndiswrapper.conf [01:12] or something silly like that [01:12] if I edit the ndiswrapper.conf and change that alias to wlan1, i think that might just do it [01:12] oh well that might do it [01:12] GL! [01:12] rightly ho, give me a moment :) [01:12] brb [01:13] kk [01:20] I'm sorry about that. I went to take the ndiswrapper drivers out and my system went into kernel panic and died [01:20] the ndiswrapper.conf however is set up with the right alias now. [01:21] so its working now [01:21] I've not checked, i've changed the alias, just going to see if i can sort out what's happening now [01:22] you might have to load the driver again [01:25] yeah, i have done. i'm just going to run the sudo depmod -a and sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [01:26] im not sure if you need to run depmod again or not honestly . but your gonna need modprobe either way [01:27] oh i don't think you need to after this one (" depmod - program to generate modules.dep and map files") from man file [01:28] nope, still no go [01:28] I just tried sudo ifup wlan1 and got this: Ignoring unknown interface wlan1=wlan1 [01:29] thats normal.. [01:29] iwconfig show it ? [01:29] no [01:29] :( [01:29] i get that error about the interface on ones the Network manager shows just about every time i use ifup / ifdown [01:30] does it show in lshw? [01:31] ah but that doesn't show the interface ... [01:32] no [01:32] it's not in lshw either, the built in is howver [01:32] *however [01:33] that might be a clue then [01:33] I take it this isn't looking good then. [01:34] im not sure, i don't know much about ndiswrapper. but it should show up in lshw with or w/o a driver. [01:36] hm [01:44] hi, i have an nvida 7300 running the proprietory driver, when i install ubuntu 11.04 i can get to KDM and then login but when the "K" starts appearing it just freezes (i can move the mouse though). When i switch to the nouveau i can use dual screen but not with 2 widescreen resolutions [01:44] is there a work around for either issue? [01:44] allan w/ nouveau can you set the res you want ? [01:45] sithlord48: yeah i can, but when i change to 1920x1080 and then the other screen left/right of it at 1920x1080 it goes all scretched and i cant see anything [01:45] i can mirror them at this resolution fine [01:46] and i can dual screen properly at 1280x1024 [01:47] disable desktop effects w/ properitary driver to log in ? [01:47] sithlord48: hmm i know i disabled desktop effects at some stage, but i'm not sure if it was when i was using the proprietory one or not [01:48] is it a known issue or something? [01:48] idk don't use nvidia i have intel and ati card w/ kubuntu [01:48] ah ok [01:49] but i would start there cause if plasma desktop is not loading there must be a reason, and effects might just be it [01:50] cool, thankyou for your help sithlord48 [01:50] your welcome [01:50] allan8904: you can permanently disable desktop effects in system settings -> desktop effects [01:51] jeiworth: yeah they're currently disabled, so i'm just gonna reinstall the nvida driver and see how it goes [01:51] allan8904: if you can't enter the gui you can also do it thru a terminal run nano ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc look for the line "Enabled=True" make it "Enabled=False" [01:52] thanks :) [01:52] allan8904: kk but it being linux and all just reinstalling usually doesn't fix a thing ;) [01:53] jeiworth: haha tell me about it... [01:54] try purging the package before to make sure it deletes the config files as well [01:54] gl allan8904 and BarkingFish , night all [01:54] night === OMaxis is now known as Omaxis-AFK === root_ is now known as lsnj [02:46] What does 'ugly' and 'bad' restricted mean? I just reinstalled my system, and this is the first time I've ever seen it. Amarok told me of some packages I can install[I use .ogg as my music] to increase functionality, and it says "GStreamer Plugins (Bad Restricted) and "" "" (Ugly Restricted)" [02:46] I figure they are talking about support for .mp3's, etc. etc., I'm just wondering as to the why [02:46] *Or, why as in 'bad' and 'ugly' [02:54] Linkmaster, ugly & bad means 'not good compared' and 'might pose distribution problems' >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GStreamer [02:59] hi all [02:59] my plasma-desktop crash after I add a panel [02:59] OerHeks: Thanks! I hope it doesn't break my system xD [03:00] how to remove a panel by command line? [03:01] vietred: Try restarting KDM first, see if that brings it back [03:01] Linkmaster: I restart the box, and right after I log in, plasma-desktop crash [03:02] vietred: you can create a new kde desktop, and move everything else into the original w/o causing too much problems [03:02] vietred, maybe rm the config will do > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9249676&postcount=3 [03:02] ^Thats probably simply [03:03] *simplier [03:03] I'll try that [03:05] OerHeks, Linkmaster: phew, you guys save me :D [03:05] it works [03:05] thank you :D [03:05] have fun vietred [03:06] Glad to help [03:22] I am browbeating myself here, but I forgot how to update my system to 4.6.5. I currently have 4.6.2, and clicked on all four checks for KPK, but am now using muon, and I added 'ppa:kubuntu/backports' but I don't think thats right.. [03:24] Then it complains about this: "Failed to download http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources" being a 404, so I know that I did something wrong, and I'm forgetting [03:26] i'm not sure 4.6.2 is available ? [03:26] *4.6.5 [03:27] I saw a release thing on www.kubuntu.org about it [03:27] "1 week 4 days ago [03:27] Packages for the release of the KDE Software Compilation 4.6.5 are available for Kubuntu 11.04..." [03:27] * Linkmaster facepalms [03:27] ah ppa:kubuntu-ppa [03:27] not the backports [03:27] I just saw that. I was like "oh hey..theres a link...lets click on it" [03:28] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-4.6.5 [03:28] Thanks anyways, sorry to take your time :P [03:28] i just wait and hang 'round till 4.7 arrives [03:28] Spending 3 weeks away from kubuntu is doing things to me [03:30] hi [03:30] :-) [03:31] I have a Quickcam 90000. I am trying to use VLC with /dev/video0 as input and it tells me "Your input can't be opened: [03:31] VLC is unable to open the MRL 'v4l2:///dev/video0'. Check the log for details." Where is this log? [03:32] Roey, logs are stored in /var/log/ [03:32] yes but there's no /var/log/vlc [03:32] true, i think you need /var/log/syslog [03:33] ooh [03:33] true. [03:34] also I ran vlc -v just now and found that it is a perms issue: http://pastebin.com/MWm0gQZ8 [03:38] i found this chmod > chmod o+rw /dev/video0 #maybe you need to run this as root [03:38] fine, I added myself to the 'video' group and stuff works now. Thanks! [03:39] ah nice [03:44] I think they reorganized .kde since my last installation....where does kdm hide nowadays? [03:44] oh [03:44] hey [03:44] why is kded4 taking 100% cpu time? [03:44] kubuntu 11.04 here. [03:45] I found it, and...hm. That sounds like a memory leak or something [03:45] Roey, maybe flash is eating you cputime ? [03:45] I did killall npviewer.bin [03:46] let me see if flash is still running [03:47] I had this process running so I killed it (yet kded4 is still at 100%): roey 24869 0.0 0.1 207252 12932 ? Sl Jul09 9:53 /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/plugin-container /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so -omnijar /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/omni.jar 24782 true plugin [04:32] hey can I kill kded4 and restart it? it's taking 100% cpu time. [04:32] *can I kill/restart kded4 without clobbering X [04:33] sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart [04:45] OerHeks: thanks [04:46] have fun Roey [04:46] OerHeks: ok that just resets kdm but kded4 is still pegged at 100% [04:46] cpu time. [04:47] install htop, and see what process or orphan process is causing this [04:47] ok hmm I just installed htop coincidentally earlier today, heh [04:48] FIrefox. [04:48] OerHeks: firefox takes 45% cpu time but I did not see that with top [04:48] only with htop. [04:48] htop is more detailed, it should be standard [04:50] eh, firefox with 100 image-, facebook- and okcupid-laden tabs is slow, go figure [04:51] I wish I could shut javascirpt off globally for a [04:51] er [04:51] noscript, i guess. [04:51] Roey: thanks! [04:51] Roey: no problem [04:51] OerHeks: thanks to you too :) and good night! [04:51] good night Roey [04:52] b.t.w. it's 06:51 here [06:36] my nix box becomes sluggish after a week or so. Ive ran ps -A / ps -a and kill many process via kill PID [06:36] Not totally certain if that's a good idea, and that doesn't totally return it to a "fresh" boot state. [06:37] probably a n00b solution but im sure there's gotta be more i don't grasp yet on how to fix this via terminal rather than doing "kill" or "reboot" === hacked is now known as vinces [06:46] my nix box becomes sluggish after a week or so. Ive ran ps -A / ps -a and kill many process via kill PID, Not totally certain if that's a good idea, and that doesn't totally return it to a "fresh" boot state, probably a n00b solution but im sure there's gotta be more i don't grasp yet on how to fix this via terminal rather than doing "kill" or "reboot". Besides im somewhat a linux n00b. Running kubuntu:natty: [06:46] damn sorry for the double post/flood. [07:44] Hey guys. I've got a question.... [07:44] I'm looking for audio editing software that's compatible with Linux. [07:44] Specifically, with Kubuntu. [07:46] Wouldn't Audacity do? [07:46] I dunno? lol [07:47] I've only used Adobe Soundbooth before, on Windows & Mac. I've never had to find something compatible with Linux before. [07:49] audacity is good [07:50] Quite so, as long as you learn how to use it! (You can even make yourself sound like a Dalek) [07:50] ... WTF is Dalek? [07:59] All right, I have researched Audacity. [07:59] Can I install it via sudo apt-get ??? [08:02] Yep, it's in the repos [08:03] The only things I'm finding on Audacity's sites about downloading it for a Linux OS is source code packages that you have to compile... [08:03] I'm lost.... [08:05] Just open kpackagekit and search for it in there, or type sudo apt-get install audacity in the terminal [08:06] Thank you. [08:31] Unit193: It doesn't appear that Audacity will do multi-track editing. Any suggestions? [09:00] LINKSWORD2, yes it does, audacity can record & edit multitrack recording. [09:00] Heh. I found it and started playing around with it, and I forgot I still had Quassel open... [09:00] :-) [09:02] Now all I've gotta do is find a way to import my audio.... (Cassettes.) [09:03] connect thru line-in ? [09:03] That's the idea. Except that I need the appropriate import line. [09:04] not available on your soundcard ? [09:04] So... I need to buzz somebody on Craigslist or something.... === booster is now known as Guest82351 === Guest82351 is now known as Peace- [09:17] LINKSWORD2: from my experience, recording from analog audio sources in Linux is never entirely clean -- you WILL most likely have some static coming from refreshing the screen [09:18] That may be the case, but I have enough experience with audio editing that I can take a fair amount of it out.... [09:18] And I don't have a way to digitally transfer the audio. [09:21] I think I'm going to shut down for the night. [09:26] hy === belhan_a is now known as tetar_9 === tetar_9 is now known as tetar [09:28] ya k1? [09:28] HALLOOWW [09:29] MET KNAL SMUA [09:29] !en | master_ [09:29] master_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [09:29] we have to speak english? [09:29] here, yes [09:29] ok ok [09:29] so there is a lot of people here? [09:30] plus, this is a SUPPORT channel.. for non-support-related talking please use #kubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-offtopic [09:31] ok sorry === home is now known as stelios === stelios is now known as steliosas [09:33] clear [09:33] hello [09:33] steliosas: try /clear [09:33] #ubuntu-it-chat [09:34] sorry [09:34] I just installed Linux Kubuntu and I can't find the Synaptics in order to search and download some packages [09:34] steliosas: is 11.04? [09:34] yes [09:34] for specifically I would like to download skype [09:34] steliosas: it's called kpackagekit [09:34] steliosas: it's Synaptic anyway, without the s at the end.. synaptics is something different ;) [09:35] steliosas: type in konsole kpackagekit [09:35] Peace-: lol.. when using the terminal, there are other ways :) [09:35] I found it . Thanks a lot [09:35] I got used to Linux Mint and this has different onomatology [09:37] the way kubuntu arranges my desktop icons I do not like. [09:37] spiral way. Can I make it just one straight line ? [09:37] there's no such thing as desktop icons in KDE4 anyway [09:37] why not ? [09:38] I find it to be an easy way to access firefox for instance. I don't want to look for it in the box menu [09:38] try putting a launcher on the panel [09:40] I kind of like desktop icons [09:40] empty space is scary [09:41] * szal never gave a wet fart about desktop icons [09:41] I guess there is no support to see if my lifecam VX 7000 works with skype in Kubuntu [09:42] Skype as proprietary software is not officially supported by Ubuntu or Canonical anyway [09:42] and I can't find just skype in kpackage but just some skype plugins. Can I find the skype-program alone in kubuntu ? [09:42] :( [09:43] Hey folks. Whats the default imagebin that the KDE image / paste desktop widget uses? [09:43] skype is there [09:43] OerHeks: where is it? iirc, I installed the 64bit *buntu .deb from skype.com [09:44] OerHeks: I can't find it. I have 5 options but no skype alone. Just skype-plugins [09:44] though I believe they have a package source you can add to your sources [09:45] i see it clearly > http://picpaste.com/pics/skype-67Mg4NcG.1311155131.png [09:46] .... skype , skyped [09:46] !skype | steliosas [09:46] steliosas: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [09:46] OerHeks: that doesn't state where the package comes/came from [09:46] szal that was not the question [09:47] OerHeks: yes, it was, since steliosas complained that he cannot find it [09:47] just where is it. [09:47] imho, that's one of the things apt needs to improve on.. showing the origin of packages [09:47] ah i understand now, it comes with partner repository [09:48] I still can;t find it [09:48] !partner [09:48] Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [09:48] you have 6 packages including skype alone. I have 5 packages without skype [09:48] su === Jonathan_ is now known as Guest5796 [09:52] steliosas: iirc, you need to explicitly enable the partner PPA in 11.04 [09:52] how to I do that szal [09:55] steliosas: either via the graphical package manager (not Synaptic, the other; forgot its name because I never use it), or by uncommenting the 2 respective lines in /etc/apt/sources.list (self-explanatory; just read the instructions in the file) [09:55] :( [09:56] can I just go to skype.com and install it from there ? [09:56] it's ubuntu based right ? [09:56] what is 'ubuntu based'? [09:57] steliosas: other than that, what's so hard about editing the sources.list? [09:57] steliosas, just enable partner repo in software sources. [09:57] -> Alt + F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list -> find the aforementioned 2 lines & remove the # in front of them -> save -> refresh package sources -> install [09:58] will it explode after that ? lol joke ! [09:59] I am new into linux ingeneral [10:01] I failed. [10:01] as long as you don't edit anything else than remove the # in front, no [10:02] or open software properties with alt+f2 -> 'kdesudo software-properties-kde' [10:02] and go to the other software tab [10:02] this seems easy [10:05] done thanks [10:06] guys I was wondering, will we ever see a skype version for linux in the next 20 years? [10:07] I believe what's in partner is the linux version [10:07] that's why microsoft bought skype. For this sole purpose in order not to offer a linux version ever. They don't even care about skype allone as a program. It was pure strategy. [10:08] yes but this skype is ancient. [10:08] old interface that reminds me 1980's [10:08] all this is offtopic (: [10:08] sorry [10:13] guys is there any way to make my Lifecam VX 7000 work with Kubuntu in skype ? [10:13] or is it completely unsupported and consequently useless ? [10:13] no idea about your camera, do it work with any other app? [10:13] test your webcam in cheese [10:14] it doesn't work in chesse [10:14] perhaps your question isn't about skype at all then (: [10:15] well the only program I wanted to use my camera for is solely on skype and skype alone. [10:15] sure, but it's not very good app for debugging these issues, I'd say [10:16] !webcam | steliosas [10:16] steliosas: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [10:16] perhaps those helps [10:17] do you suggest me using evoq of firefox ? [10:17] steliosas: what do you mean? [10:18] browser options [10:18] hello [10:18] I understand that revoq came with kubuntu installed but as for firefox I had to install it myself [10:18] steliosas: you mean rekonq? [10:18] oh yes that [10:18] anybody running an amd phenom II x4 on their ubuntu 11? [10:18] use whatever suits your needs best [10:19] ehm [10:19] hrobjartur: me [10:19] other way around anybody goa amd pheon II x4 with ubuntu 11 [10:19] steliosas: [10:19] great [10:19] Ubuntu 11? [10:19] 11.04 [10:19] kubuntu [10:19] steliosas: would you mind checking something out for me... Im running lm-sensors [10:20] steliosas: to check my mb and cpu temperatures [10:20] hrobjartur: I am completely unknown with this ubuntu-kubuntu linux thing. I am very sorry. I am struggling to learn it and I am a beginner [10:20] steliosas: ok, I best not ask you to install lm-sensors [10:20] Tm_T: 11.04 [10:21] sure [10:21] I can't now sorry. I am strugling with this now nd I have 400 questions [10:21] hrobjartur: what is the problem? it's usually better tell the issue without asking "if anyone" kind of questions [10:22] Tm_T: well... lm-sensors package is my best/only shot at getting cpu temperatures on linux, right? [10:22] Tm_T: if so... even with the latest version of ubuntu... the lm-sensors package... and well the k10temp kernel module are together somehow not giving me sensible readings [10:23] Tm_T: here, http://pastebin.com/3A2QCytj [10:23] hrobjartur: without being able to test things myself, have you checked this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto [10:23] Tm_T: I don't have a windows license... and I also really dont care to install windows. [10:24] Windows is totally irrelevant on this conversation [10:24] Tm_T: yes these are the ubuntu instructions I followed [10:24] Tm_T: this guy, on this page... gets very nice highlights of which temp. reading is what... I dont get that [10:25] Tm_T: his cpu temperate is called CPU temp... I have no idea which one is mine... [10:25] Tm_T: I have Temp1 Temp2 Temp3 [10:25] ah, I think there's no way I can help on that [10:26] Tm_T: btw... are all cpu's with so-called diode teperature sensors? [10:26] Tm_T: then my cpu temp is probably Temp2 [10:26] good news. My lifecam works with cheese. [10:26] I really would have thought there would by now be much better support for cpu temperatures on linux [10:27] I mean... most linux users put together their own systems, right? [10:27] and want to know if their heatsink is working ok [10:31] hrobjartur: looks to me that it works just fine there, although possibly with wrong scale here and there [10:31] Tm_T: well, the temp3 is wrong, just as in that tutorial... but cant think of any sensible scale for that... it aint Farenheit [10:32] and it aint kelvin [10:32] Tm_T: just plain wrong [10:32] that's not what I meant (: [10:32] Tm_T: also, it isnt working so fine... when sensors doesnt tell me which temp is what [10:32] Tm_T: wron calibration I guess? [10:33] yes, using wrong factor [10:33] Tm_T: sorry I dont know how the sensor stuff works... didnt know that it has to calibrate anything... just thought it might ask the BIOS for some info. [10:36] any idea how I could configure unity-2d-launcher to properly work in kde? [10:43] mokush, unity & kde ? never heard of unity-2d-launcher in KDE. [10:43] OerHeks: well you can install unity-2d-launcher as standalone and run it [10:44] since there no other decent task manager as a plasmoid, I had to resort to this atrocity [10:44] mokush: smoth-bar [10:44] smooth-bar [10:45] smooth-bar? [10:45] Peace-: you mean, smooth-tasks? [10:47] i guess yes [10:47] i don't remember well the name [10:48] Peace-: well smooth-tasks is my best bet, but because of the funky behaviour of the kde `launchers` it's not very friendly [10:48] yes you right this one http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/20/plasma-desktopQW1407.jpg [10:49] Peace-: isn't that the default task manager? in the screenshot? [10:49] yep this is alpha2 11.10 [10:49] so smooth-task has some problem right now [10:49] so i didn't installed it [10:50] instal [10:50] -.- [10:51]