[00:33] <bobweaver> Hi there I was wondering about ppa hows it work?
[00:55] <poolie> it works great!
[01:20] <lifeless> bobweaver: what do you want to know? (how to use it? how it is implemented?)
[01:20] <bobweaver> yes
[01:20] <bobweaver> how to use it
[01:20] <bobweaver> is it something that a distro that I am deving could use
[01:20] <lifeless> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA might help
[01:21] <bobweaver> so I am working on a distro and would like to have ppa for it I just dont know where to start as I am new at devoloping
[02:55] <RenatoSilva> how to translate https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkorphan?
[02:56] <RenatoSilva> the gtkorphan project doesn't seem the source from which those packages are built. The packages are 4.4 and the max in project trunk is 4.2
[03:11] <RenatoSilva> isn't something wrong here? there's nothing in the queue: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gtkorphan
[03:12] <RenatoSilva> Source problem: the name of the program entry in main menu is not translated (I checked the project page, it's translated there)
[03:12] <RenatoSilva> but the current package in use (4.4) doesn't contain such translation
[07:41] <sameerynho> hi, why launchpad drops packets from my country?
[07:44] <spiv> Launchpad doesn't drop traffic from any country AFAIK
[07:45] <sameerynho> spiv: hmmm, but it seems it does :(
[07:47] <spiv> What happens when you try to access https://launchpad.net/ ?
[07:52] <sameerynho> spiv: not responding,
[07:53] <spiv> My guess is you or your ISP (or maybe your country?) has a proxy that blocks traffic to launchpad.net:443, rather than that Launchpad is blocking you.
[07:54] <spiv> Pretty unfortunate if so :(
[07:56] <sameerynho> spiv: hmmm maybe
[08:01] <wgrant> sameerynho: What about http://launchpadlibrarian.net?
[08:01] <sameerynho> wgrant: w8
[08:02] <sameerynho> wgrant: yeah it's ok
[08:03] <wgrant> sameerynho: Which browser are you using?
[08:04] <sameerynho> wgrant: firefox, but i tried that width many browsers, i think its not a browser issue
[08:04] <wgrant> Have you tried with something other than a browser, like wget?
[08:04] <wgrant> Which may provide better error messages?
[08:06] <sameerynho> wgrant: hmmm no , but now i'm trying to clone openerp using its bzr_set script
[08:06] <wgrant> Alternatively, what's the exact text of the error that Firefox gives you?
[08:06] <wgrant> And can you telnet into launchpad.net on port 443?
[08:06] <sameerynho> wgrant: but it seems that it freeze, ( i'm not familiar with bzr)
[09:37] <ivan> anyone uh happen to know which company made the launchpad t-shirts passed out at PyCon '09?
[09:50] <henninge> ivan: The only t-shirts I was ever aware of were from Canonical.
[09:50] <henninge> dunnow about PyCon, though
[09:51] <henninge> ivan: This one? Seems liek there are only Lady's sizes left. http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=398
[09:52] <ivan> same design for sure
[11:13] <ara> Hello!
[11:13] <ara> There are some bugs that I cannot change the asignee anymore
[11:13] <ara> example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775281
[11:13] <ara> Does anyone know why could that be?
[11:13] <ara> Thanks!
[11:13] <henninge> adeuring: can you see if you can help ara, please?
[11:14]  * adeuring is looking
[11:14] <ara> henninge, adeuring: thanks :)
[11:52] <danilos> ara, it seems to be a bug with expanders, you can set it using https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775281/+editstatus while we fix the bug
[11:53] <ara> danilos, cool, thanks
[11:53] <ara> danilos, do you need me to file a bug?
[11:53] <ara> vanhoof, ^
[11:53] <wgrant> ara: This will affect every bug with an Oneiric task.
[11:53] <danilos> ara, please
[11:54] <danilos> wgrant, ara: I am starting on a fix right away
[11:54]  * ara files a bug
[11:56] <ara> danilos, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/813456
[12:14] <danilos> ara, thanks, I've got a fix, we'll try to get it deployed asap
[12:57] <lag> Hmmm ... Source/binary (i.e. mixed) uploads are not allowed.
[12:57] <lag> Why is that a problem?
[13:43] <lag> A little help?
[13:46] <adeuring> bigjools: could you help lag?
[13:47] <bigjools> you're never allowed to upload binaries otherwise Launchpad can't guarantee that the source you see matches the binary you see
[13:53] <lag> bigjools: I need that to be different :)
[13:53] <bigjools> lag: it's not going to chage
[13:53] <bigjools> change*
[13:54] <lag> bigjools: I'll ping you elsewhere
[13:54] <bigjools> lag: you can talk here
[13:55] <lag> Okay
[13:55] <lag> How do packages which require a click-through licence do it?#
[13:59] <kirkland> jelmer: howdy
[14:00] <kirkland> jelmer: negronjl asked you yesterday about helping us setup an auto import of a git branch, but it unfortunately includes submodules
[14:00] <kirkland> jelmer: I'm wondering what our options are at this point ...
[14:00] <geser> lag: like sun java?
[14:00] <lag> geser: Just like Sun Java
[14:01] <lag> geser: It's okay, I've been sent on the right track
[14:01] <geser> lag: IIRC is sun-java only an installer, it asks the license in postinst and downloads then the JRE
[14:03] <lag> Hmm... that could take some extra infrastructure - that would be a pain
[14:03] <geser> lag: what are you trying to do?
[14:05] <lag> geser: Upload binaries for non FOSS-out software
[14:05] <lag> geser: Firmware to be precise
[14:06] <geser> lag: are they redistributable? (sun-java does the download thing because it's not redistributable)
[14:06] <lag> geser: They are, under click-through
[14:08] <geser> lag: so it would be allowed to put them into a source package which gets uploaded to LP?
[14:08] <lag> geser: Allowed by the licencers yes, allowed by LP, no :(
[14:09] <geser> lag: "allowed by LP"? you mean the source-only upload or PPA terms?
[14:10] <geser> you can put the binary-blobs into the source package, let LP build binary package from it (probably just copy them into the right location) and add the license question into the postinst of the binary package
[14:13] <lag> geser: I don't know how to do that
[14:13] <lag> geser: I have my binary blobs
[14:15] <lag> geser: Any idea how I might do that?
[14:17] <geser> lag: see how linux-firmware-nonfree it does
[14:18] <lag> geser: That's basically what I'm looking for
[14:18] <lag> geser: But how can I find out what commands where used to build said package?
[14:18] <geser> your firmware blobs are the "source" (even if they are binary) as far as it matters for packaging, as you need no compile you just have to install them into the right location during package building
[14:19] <lag> I understand that
[14:19] <geser> lag: it's all part of the source package (the files in debian/)
[14:19] <geser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/linux-firmware-nonfree/oneiric/view/head:/debian/rules
[14:20] <geser> that's the rules files for linux-firmware-nonfree
[14:21] <lag> geser: I'll speak to James and Chase
[14:21] <lag> geser: Thanks for the lead
[14:21] <kiko> bump: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/87911
[14:23] <lag> kiko: No messin' - I like that! :D
[14:23] <kiko> flacoste, remember that one next time we have a stakeholders meeting :)
[14:23] <kiko> lag, so many bugs affect me it is scary :)
[14:24] <lag> kiko: :)
[14:53] <dupondje> Something changed? As I can't subscribe myself anymore to a bug.
[14:54] <dupondje> The button does nothing
[15:04] <deryck> adeuring, I'll take IRC now.
[15:04] <adeuring> deryck: thanks!
[15:04] <deryck> np
[15:48] <cjohnston> deryck: is there a problem with login.l.n?
[15:48] <cjohnston> getting "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad Login Service server."
[15:48] <deryck> cjohnston, I haven't heard of anything.  let me see.
[15:49] <cjohnston> ty
[15:50] <deryck> cjohnston, yes, it's down and a known issue and being investigated.
[15:50] <cjohnston> ok
[16:01] <cr3> login.launchpad.net is being updated, right?
[16:02] <deryck> it's down and being investigated.
[16:03] <dtchen> hmm, OOPS-2027CI45
[16:04] <deryck> dtchen, I can't look at the OOPS with the login server down.  What happened?
[16:05] <dtchen> deryck: sec, I've already navigated to another ~ubuntu-reviews page. Let me see if I can retrieve the original bug reports.
[16:07] <dtchen> deryck: synopsis: I marked one bug (7xxxxx) a dupe of another (192xxx), which was successful, and then I attempted to navigate to the bug report (192xxx)
[16:07] <deryck> dtchen, is the master bug 192xxx a private bug that you do not have permission to see?
[16:08] <dtchen> deryck: it wasn't last I checked. Also, the bugs are 758333 and 192389
[16:09] <deryck> ok, let me look.
[16:09] <deryck> the login server is up now for those asking earlier.  cr3 and cjohnston I think.
[16:10] <deryck> dtchen, so you cannot view bug 192389 because of an OOPs?
[16:10] <dtchen> deryck: correct
[16:10] <deryck> dtchen, weird.  I see it fine.  let me see what the oops says now.
[16:11] <cr3> deryck: thanks!
[16:15] <cjohnston> thanks deryck
[16:18] <deryck> dtchen, what does the page say other than the OOPS id?  Anything?  I can't see the OOPS yet.
[16:19] <dtchen> deryck: "Timeout error" (OOPS-2027CJ49)
[16:19] <deryck> ah
[16:19] <deryck> dtchen, ok, I'll take a look when the OOPS is available and make sure we have a bug for it, though I'm pretty confident we do already.
[16:20] <dtchen> deryck: thanks!
[16:20] <deryck> np!
[17:15] <CarlFK> lp open id: "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad Login Service server.         Try reloading this page in a minute or two."
[17:16] <CarlFK> also: "© 2004-2010      Canonical Ltd."
[17:16] <CarlFK> guessing someone wants 2011
[17:17] <nigelb> CarlFK: SSO roll out got FUBAR'D. its being rolled back.
[17:18] <nigelb> (this is from #canonical-isd, they are aware of the issue)
[17:18] <CarlFK> nigelb: k.
[17:19] <CarlFK> oddly enough I was just checking out a bug related to someone else's site that used it, so I was half expecting it was a side effect of the bug being 'worked on'
[17:26] <deryck> Thanks jml
[17:26] <jml> deryck: identica updated too
[17:26] <deryck> jml, great
[17:27] <jml> deryck: am happy to hand the official "Communication Liaison" ball to you if you want.
[17:27]  * nigelb hugs jml 
[17:27] <deryck> jml, sure, I'll take it :)
[17:27] <elmo> SSO is backup
[17:27] <deryck> awesome.  thanks, elmo
[18:04] <psusi> the find package link on the main ubuntu project page seems to search for source packages.  Why is this, and is there a way to search for binary packages instead?
[18:06] <deryck> psusi, you can click through to a series and then an arch and then search binary packages....
[18:06] <deryck> psusi, e.g. ending up on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386
[18:08] <psusi> ahh
[18:09] <psusi> so no way to search all series and all arch?
[18:10] <deryck> psusi, not that I know of, but I could just not know about it.
[18:12] <psusi> shoot... is there a way to reassign a bug project?  bug #813545 was filed against Ubuntu, but it is a bug in Launchpad Itself
[18:17] <deryck> psusi, you'll have to mark it for launchpad via the "also affects project" link and the mark the ubuntu task invalid.
[18:19] <psusi> I thought there was a way to reassign it somehow?  just not with the web interface?  I've seen it done to reassign a project to the NULL Project as a substitute for being able to actually get rid of the whole affects relationship
[18:19] <psusi> hrm.. email interface doesn't seem to be able to either... must be api only
[18:20] <deryck> It's not possible to reassign a bug against a distro to a project.  It's a known, long-standing bug.
[18:20] <deryck> you can after-the -fact assign the distro task to null project if you want to kill any relationship to ubuntu.
[18:22] <psusi> if I can assign it to the NULL project, can't I just assign it to launchpad instead?
[18:22] <psusi> and how do you do that anyhow?
[18:29] <deryck> psusi, oh, right.  So I guess you can't for Ubuntu then.  Sorry.  Thinking about Launchpad's own bugs too much.
[19:13] <nyuszika7h> Hi! I'm using Firefox 5, and I'm trying to register a launchpad account, but I don't see the CAPTCHA.
[19:13] <nyuszika7h> JavaScript is enabled.
[19:14] <nyuszika7h> I don't see any installed add-ons that would block reCAPTCHA, unless Adblock Plus is blocking it, but I highly doubt that.
[19:15] <micahg> nyuszika7h: that's a likely culprit
[19:16] <nyuszika7h> No, it isn't Adblock Plus.
[19:16] <nyuszika7h> I don't have Ghostery or NoScript installed either.
[19:17] <nyuszika7h> Here is a list of my add-ons: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443015/
[19:19] <Ampelbein> nyuszika7h: does BetterPrivacy kill the referrer?
[19:20] <nyuszika7h> No idea, let me check
[19:22] <nyuszika7h> I don't see anything related to that
[19:25] <Ampelbein> nyuszika7h: can you use the recaptcha box at http://www.google.com/recaptcha/learnmore ?
[19:26] <nyuszika7h> yes
[19:30] <nyuszika7h> I have to go now anyway, good night.
[22:26] <tmm1> i can't sign up. no captcha appears in chrome or firefox
[22:27] <tmm1> looks like an issue on recaptcha's side
[22:46] <wgrant> tmm1, nyuszika7h: Google deprecated the old recaptcha domain, which login.ubuntu.com and login.launchpad.net are using.
[22:46] <wgrant> api-secure.recaptcha.com seems to now serve an SSL certificate for www.google.com, which is a little unfortunate.