| Byan | I did not think getting sound to work would be this difficult >_< | 00:36 |
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| _schulte_ | looking at /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf it is not clear how to add support for other Xsessions (e.g., xmonad) any suggestions? | 01:03 |
| KM0201 | Byan: do you have pulse audio installed? | 01:04 |
| KM0201 | Byan: ? | 01:05 |
| _schulte_ | never mind, found the "session" option, which should work | 01:06 |
| KM0201 | o/ | 01:30 |
| Northernen | \o | 01:31 |
| KM0201 | pretty soon we'll do the YMCA dance | 01:31 |
| KM0201 | lol | 01:31 |
| KM0201 | Northernen: seriously, you outta give it a whirl, right now, its a community release, but it's stable, and 11.10, it'll be recognized by canonical | 01:32 |
| KM0201 | lubuntu.net | 01:32 |
| leccy | yeah, canonical will defo recognise it - they need a decent fall-back position from unity... | 01:40 |
| leccy | and afaik MS isn't currently arguing with the lxde dev team | 01:41 |
| cg2916 | phillw, are you there? | 01:58 |
| cg2916 | how can i join the lubuntu artwork team? | 01:59 |
| leccy | cg2916, do you use inkscape? (just curious) | 02:00 |
| cg2916 | what the heck is that? | 02:00 |
| leccy | vector drawing program, like adobe illustrator | 02:01 |
| leccy | i must have insulted him | 02:02 |
| cg2916 | whenever i resume from suspend, my screen is black | 02:47 |
| KM0201 | cg2916: foirst question, is how much swap space do you have, and how much RAM do you have? | 02:49 |
| cg2916 | i believe it's 768 mb both | 02:50 |
| cg2916 | how do i find out for swure | 02:51 |
| cg2916 | sure* | 02:51 |
| cg2916 | KM0201, you there? | 02:54 |
| KM0201 | yes | 02:54 |
| KM0201 | if your swap is only 768mb... i'd say there's a good chance thats why your havng this issue. | 02:54 |
| cg2916 | how do i fix it? | 02:54 |
| KM0201 | cg2916: in a terminal free -m | 02:54 |
| cg2916 | ok | 02:54 |
| KM0201 | whats it say next to "Mem" under total | 02:55 |
| cg2916 | Wow, it says 748 mb | 02:55 |
| cg2916 | I know i have 768 | 02:55 |
| cg2916 | a 256 and a 512 mb chip | 02:55 |
| KM0201 | thats fine.. | 02:55 |
| KM0201 | whats it say next to swap? | 02:55 |
| cg2916 | 768 | 02:55 |
| KM0201 | i'm not positive, but i bet thats partly your problem | 02:56 |
| cg2916 | how do i get lubuntu to recognize the other 20mb? | 02:56 |
| KM0201 | it probably is... i wouldn't be overly concerned w/ that | 02:58 |
| KM0201 | your issue, if either of those two are your isue, i'd be its more that your swap space is very limited, rather than your memory | 02:59 |
| cg2916 | should i up it to 1gb or down it to 546 mb | 02:59 |
| cg2916 | 748* | 02:59 |
| cg2916 | hello? | 03:02 |
| KM0201 | sorry | 03:03 |
| cg2916 | ok | 03:03 |
| KM0201 | i'm in like 15 different channels, if people don't say my name when talking, it doesn't alert me. | 03:03 |
| cg2916 | Ok | 03:03 |
| cg2916 | I'll do it from now on | 03:03 |
| KM0201 | i would up it to about 1500mb-2gigs | 03:03 |
| cg2916 | But, won't the swap and RAM conflict? | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | no | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | not at all actually | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | swap, is what RAM uses, when it's full (to keep your pc from crashing) | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | hibernating, almost always takes up all your ram... | 03:04 |
| cg2916 | so, will the screen issue be fixed? | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | general rule of thumb, swap should be 1.5-2x your physical ram. | 03:04 |
| KM0201 | thats wha ti'm saying, i can't say 100% thats your problem. | 03:05 |
| cg2916 | and the ram isn't filling up yet, although it may fix minecraft | 03:05 |
| KM0201 | but.. you definitely don't have enough swap space | 03:05 |
| cg2916 | ok | 03:05 |
| KM0201 | i doubt it will fix minecraft | 03:05 |
| cg2916 | anything else that can fix my screen? | 03:05 |
| KM0201 | well, what graphics processor are you using | 03:05 |
| cg2916 | hang on | 03:06 |
| cg2916 | ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY | 03:07 |
| KM0201 | that could also be the issue. | 03:07 |
| KM0201 | ATI's can be notoriously buggy in Linux (i have very little experience w/ them.. maybe soemone else here does.. frankly, I avoid them) | 03:07 |
| cg2916 | ok... right | 03:08 |
| cg2916 | anything i can do | 03:08 |
| cg2916 | KM0201 what can i do | 03:11 |
| cg2916 | KM0201 | 03:14 |
| KM0201 | sorry | 03:15 |
| KM0201 | honestly.. 'm not sure a bigger swap is gonna fix the problem (but its certainly not helping) | 03:15 |
| KM0201 | it's probably gonna be a PITA to resize your swap. | 03:15 |
| cg2916 | idc about swap yet | 03:16 |
| cg2916 | what about my screen | 03:16 |
| KM0201 | cg2916: yu're not getting it, there is a very good possibility, your lack of swap space, is causing your hibernate/screen prob. | 03:16 |
| cg2916 | ok | 03:17 |
| cg2916 | i'll make it bigger and then come back to you | 03:17 |
| Byan | KM0201: sorty of | 03:51 |
| Byan | sort of* | 03:51 |
| KM0201 | Byan: ?.. don't recall the question | 03:51 |
| Byan | I figured out that my edgers kernel doesn't seem to have alsa modules with it | 03:51 |
| Byan | my sound issue | 03:51 |
| KM0201 | oh. | 03:51 |
| KM0201 | whats your sound device? | 03:51 |
| Byan | ati based "intel hda" | 03:52 |
| KM0201 | Byan: how does lspci identify the device? | 03:53 |
| Byan | computer isn't on right now, but it's a says ati Azalia (intel hda) something like that | 03:54 |
| KM0201 | hmm, yah, those are a pain sometimes | 03:54 |
| Byan | but it's not that though | 03:54 |
| Byan | I have no sound modules at all.. | 03:54 |
| KM0201 | hmm, | 03:55 |
| KM0201 | i'm helping someone w/ the same problem (and i think you two have the saame device).. so if i get anywhere, i'll let you know | 03:55 |
| Byan | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/795815 | 03:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 795815 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "No sound in 11.04 with 2.6.39-3 kernel; alsa-source build fails" [Undecided,New] | 03:56 |
| KM0201 | she's done so much crap though, she's gonna reinstall | 03:56 |
| Byan | lol, I doubt it's the same problem as I am using 2.6.39 | 03:56 |
| KM0201 | oh ok.. :) | 03:56 |
| Byan | I am also unable to get sound working in 2.6.38, but it shows up in alsamixer, so I am pretty sure it has to do with fixing the perfed sound device, since I have two | 03:57 |
| Byan | let me know about that case you're working on, for reference | 03:58 |
| KM0201 | ya | 03:58 |
| KM0201 | will do. | 03:58 |
| === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden | ||
| lubun | my cdrom "mounts" but says this "location is not mountable" i cant open the cd anywhere. i found a thread but i has alot of different solutions the last one seems the easiest which is this but no one replied to it,DOES ANYONE KNOW what this command does? "sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends" | 05:18 |
| bioterror | installs usefull stuff to gvfs | 05:19 |
| bioterror | those should already be installed | 05:19 |
| lubun | ... well, that was the last suggestion. | 05:23 |
| lubun | the other ones seemed more complicated to me | 05:24 |
| jmarsden | lubun: The "useful stuff" in gvfs-backends is the low level program code modules that let gvfs know how to access several different kinds of remote filesystems. | 05:24 |
| lubun | so then that wouldnt help with the cdrom? | 05:24 |
| lubun | jmarsden? | 05:25 |
| jmarsden | lubun: I doubt it. Can you mount the same cdrom by hand using mount ? | 05:25 |
| lubun | Im kind of new so idk how to do that | 05:25 |
| lubun | mplayer cdda:// ???? | 05:26 |
| jmarsden | OK. Are you willing to type in a few commands in a terminal session? | 05:26 |
| lubun | yeah... i just not to savy thats all | 05:26 |
| jmarsden | OK, so first create a new directory to mount the cdrom onto, by doing sudo mkdir /tmp/testcd | 05:27 |
| bioterror | why not just use /mnt? | 05:27 |
| bioterror | just asking | 05:28 |
| lubun | ok i did that, but bioterror brings up my point about to many solutions. then i get lost in what ive done and what if what i do messes it up? | 05:28 |
| jmarsden | bioterror: You can put it anywhere you wan, but this is a temporary test, you shouldn't mount directly to mnt, there may be other things under it already... so I coudl do mkdir /mnt/whatever but then I'd have to remember to rmdir it afterwards to keep things clean... so using /tmp is nice :) | 05:29 |
| jmarsden | lubun: See above... using /tmp/ anything means if it messes up you can reboot and it will go away :) | 05:29 |
| lubun | ok i did that... | 05:29 |
| lubun | cd? | 05:30 |
| jmarsden | Put the cdrom in the drive. Then do sudo mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/sr0 /tmp/testcd | 05:30 |
| jmarsden | And tell me if it gives you any messages when you do that. | 05:31 |
| jmarsden | lubun: What happened? | 05:33 |
| lubun | jmarsden: "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0" I have to drives so maybe something else | 05:35 |
| jmarsden | OK, put it in the other drive and run the command again :) | 05:35 |
| lubun | jmarsden: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so | 05:37 |
| jmarsden | Aha, so the CDROM does not seem to be a normal CDROM. How was it created and what kind of filesystem is on it? | 05:38 |
| lubun | ummm? what? | 05:40 |
| jmarsden | That CDROM... what is on it and how did it get there? | 05:40 |
| jmarsden | How did you create it? | 05:41 |
| lubun | you mean the disc... | 05:41 |
| jmarsden | Yes, the one you put into your sr0 drive :) | 05:41 |
| jmarsden | The CDROm we are trying to mount... that one :) | 05:41 |
| lubun | its an audio disc, speech | 05:41 |
| jmarsden | So... why would you be trying to mount an audio CD??? | 05:42 |
| lubun | it wont open | 05:42 |
| lubun | i cant do anything with it | 05:42 |
| lubun | but i see your poin | 05:42 |
| lubun | t | 05:42 |
| lubun | is that why it says not mountable as soon as it goes in? | 05:43 |
| jmarsden | I'd think so. It is not a CDROM at all. It is an audio CD. CD and CDROM are not exactly the same thing. | 05:44 |
| lubun | your ruining my life .... lol... jk | 05:45 |
| jmarsden | Is the "audio disc" really a nice normal standard audio CD, 44.1KHz 16bit stereo, per the official specs? How did the audio get onto it? | 05:45 |
| jmarsden | (IF it is a commercial store bought audio CD, OK, it should be standard... if you made it yourself... we have more questions to ask!) | 05:46 |
| lubun | no i didnt make it... i bought it | 05:48 |
| lubun | ;et me try to use rhythmbox | 05:48 |
| jmarsden | OK. Do other audio CDs play OK in your Lubuntu machine? | 05:49 |
| lubun | ok i have to go and look for it through rhythmbox, but i can get it now, on my other machine, it auto"mounts" and prompt to open with file manager or music player... | 05:50 |
| jmarsden | lubun: That sounds like GNOME/Nautilus doing its stuff... those do not exist in Lubuntu. try a different audio CD and see if you can play that one automatically in Lubuntu, so you know if the issue is with all audio CDs or just the first one. | 05:52 |
| lubun | now to find a music cd to try | 05:53 |
| * KM0201 hasn't bought a cd in years. | 06:02 | |
| KM0201 | :) | 06:03 |
| lubun | yeah... i cant find one either. i have plenty of speeches. but not music. I can copy and paste the sound files out, but i cant play them through rhythmbox... but im just trying to put them in my ipod so it will do i guess. | 06:05 |
| lubun | on another note. I cannot seem to get my ipod or gogear or sandisk to work always errors. do you remember our chat KM0201? it works on this machine but not my other one... | 06:06 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 06:07 |
| lubun | its ok i guess but this computer is ANCIENT so it is so slow.... the other one is super fast... | 06:08 |
| lubun | the pc at my shop is 1gig (of 2) 3gig Pent4, this one is 1.6 or 1.7 gig pent 4 with 512 gig ram | 06:10 |
| KM0201 | lol, the laptop that just smoked on me the other day, was a 1.6ghz celeron, 1.5gig of ram... .i had almost more ram than i did proc. speed | 06:11 |
| lubun | wow... this one i got at a thrift store... it was on windows 2000 server edition when i got it... i looked into buying ram, but after reading about that i decided ill just wait and build me a new one... | 06:14 |
| lubun | KM0201: what was that audio sound controller that you recomended a few days ago? was it audacious? to configure the sound output ad mics and things like that? | 06:41 |
| KM0201 | oops, sorry, didn't hear him. | 07:00 |
| === P4R4N01D1 is now known as P4R4N01D | ||
| vz88 | hi. i have one question about the ext4 filesystem | 19:03 |
| vz88 | is ext4 compatible to ntfs? | 19:03 |
| KM0201 | vz88: commpatible? what do you mean. | 19:08 |
| LubuntuPowered | KM0201 | 19:16 |
| KM0201 | LubuntuPowered: ? | 19:16 |
| LubuntuPowered | will respond to all your questions within 5 minutes 24/7 | 19:16 |
| LubuntuPowered | that was fast! | 19:17 |
| bioterror | ext4 has nothing to do with ntfs | 19:17 |
| KM0201 | what was fast? | 19:17 |
| bioterror | ntfs is propietary filesystem | 19:17 |
| LubuntuPowered | response time | 19:17 |
| KM0201 | i just saw the channel highlighted showing someone asked a question, thats all. | 19:17 |
| KM0201 | he never responded back, so.. i dunno.. but yea, pretty much my responsse was gonna be they are completely different.. | 19:17 |
| LubuntuPowered | i still have the same issue with my internet | 19:18 |
| KM0201 | i was just curious though, i don't think he phrased his question correctly | 19:18 |
| KM0201 | LubuntuPowered: what issue is that? | 19:18 |
| LubuntuPowered | not exceeding 4mb, while i get 17mb+ with all my other computers wired and unwired | 19:19 |
| LubuntuPowered | but it seems the upload speed on Lubuntu is not affected | 19:19 |
| LubuntuPowered | same as my other computers | 19:19 |
| KM0201 | hm, that is strange | 19:19 |
| KM0201 | i never had a problem like that, and wouldn't even begin to know how to trouble shoot it | 19:20 |
| KM0201 | my speeds have always been comparable w/ the service i pay for | 19:20 |
| LubuntuPowered | also, the only way i can connect is if i uncheck "Enable Networking" while i "auto eth0" and then check it back in | 19:20 |
| LubuntuPowered | otherwise it will not connect | 19:20 |
| LubuntuPowered | weird? | 19:20 |
| KM0201 | yes | 19:21 |
| bioterror | LubuntuPowered, open terminal and: lspci |grep Network | 19:21 |
| bioterror | hmm | 19:21 |
| bioterror | |grep Ether | 19:21 |
| bioterror | that's correct | 19:22 |
| bioterror | I would like to know your NIC | 19:22 |
| LubuntuPowered | it's not showing anything | 19:25 |
| KM0201 | well, that would explain your problem... :).. you don't have NIC!. it's amazing its even getting 4mb. | 19:25 |
| LubuntuPowered | ... | 19:26 |
| LubuntuPowered | no | 19:26 |
| LubuntuPowered | i have one | 19:26 |
| KM0201 | !pastebin | LubuntuPowered pastebin your entire lspci, and then give us the link | 19:26 |
| ubot5 | LubuntuPowered pastebin your entire lspci, and then give us the link: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 19:26 |
| bioterror | I'm off to sauna ;) | 19:28 |
| bioterror | laters mates ;) | 19:28 |
| KM0201 | have fun | 19:28 |
| KM0201 | LubuntuPowered: any luck?> | 19:35 |
| john_rambo | when trying to delete files from /usr/share/applications with pcmanfm as root gettting " "operation not supported" | 19:38 |
| john_rambo | want to delete some unwanted launchers from main menu | 19:38 |
| KM0201 | john_rambo: how are you attempting to delete them? | 19:40 |
| KM0201 | you're running pcmanfm, as root? | 19:41 |
| john_rambo | KM0201, selecting them with mouse & pressing the delete key || tried doing that as myself but that didnt work | 19:42 |
| KM0201 | john_rambo: try this... sudo rm /path/to/file.name | 19:42 |
| KM0201 | john_rambo: pcmanfm, to my knowledge, does not support being used w/ sudo (at least when i tried it it didn't) | 19:43 |
| john_rambo | KM0201, I want to delete all the launchers in the "others" menu ...... quite difficult to determine the filenames from CLI | 19:44 |
| KM0201 | john_rambo: browse to the folder/file names w/ pcman fm, then use terminal to delete them. | 19:45 |
| john_rambo | KM0201, trying that | 19:45 |
| KM0201 | john_rambo: i gotta run for a bit, i'll try to check back in in about 30min | 19:45 |
| Kurdistan | :) friTTe| is visiting us. | 19:54 |
| LubuntuPowered | !pastebinit | 20:26 |
| ubot5 | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 20:26 |
| LubuntuPowered | 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX [Linksys EtherFast 10/100] (rev 25) | 20:28 |
| KM0201 | hmm | 20:32 |
| KM0201 | never heard of that one. | 20:32 |
| KM0201 | LubuntuPowered: is that the only one you have there? | 20:32 |
| bioterror | KM0201, that's PCMCIA | 21:37 |
| KM0201 | hm, yeah it is | 21:37 |
| aikInsaan | i have just downloaded lubuntu 11.04 (32bit) and checked the md5 checksum on the torrented iso...which matches but when i run 'usb-creator.exe' it reports a ' End-of-central-directory signature not found...' error | 22:07 |
| aikInsaan | and suggestions on what could have gone wrong? | 22:07 |
| aikInsaan | or possibly what my noob hands are doing incorrectly? | 22:07 |
| bioterror | aikInsaan, use unetbootin for example | 22:12 |
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