[00:36] I did not think getting sound to work would be this difficult >_< [01:03] <_schulte_> looking at /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf it is not clear how to add support for other Xsessions (e.g., xmonad) any suggestions? [01:04] Byan: do you have pulse audio installed? [01:05] Byan: ? [01:06] <_schulte_> never mind, found the "session" option, which should work [01:30] o/ [01:31] \o [01:31] pretty soon we'll do the YMCA dance [01:31] lol [01:32] Northernen: seriously, you outta give it a whirl, right now, its a community release, but it's stable, and 11.10, it'll be recognized by canonical [01:32] lubuntu.net [01:40] yeah, canonical will defo recognise it - they need a decent fall-back position from unity... [01:41] and afaik MS isn't currently arguing with the lxde dev team [01:58] phillw, are you there? [01:59] how can i join the lubuntu artwork team? [02:00] cg2916, do you use inkscape? (just curious) [02:00] what the heck is that? [02:01] vector drawing program, like adobe illustrator [02:02] i must have insulted him [02:47] whenever i resume from suspend, my screen is black [02:49] cg2916: foirst question, is how much swap space do you have, and how much RAM do you have? [02:50] i believe it's 768 mb both [02:51] how do i find out for swure [02:51] sure* [02:54] KM0201, you there? [02:54] yes [02:54] if your swap is only 768mb... i'd say there's a good chance thats why your havng this issue. [02:54] how do i fix it? [02:54] cg2916: in a terminal free -m [02:54] ok [02:55] whats it say next to "Mem" under total [02:55] Wow, it says 748 mb [02:55] I know i have 768 [02:55] a 256 and a 512 mb chip [02:55] thats fine.. [02:55] whats it say next to swap? [02:55] 768 [02:56] i'm not positive, but i bet thats partly your problem [02:56] how do i get lubuntu to recognize the other 20mb? [02:58] it probably is... i wouldn't be overly concerned w/ that [02:59] your issue, if either of those two are your isue, i'd be its more that your swap space is very limited, rather than your memory [02:59] should i up it to 1gb or down it to 546 mb [02:59] 748* [03:02] hello? [03:03] sorry [03:03] ok [03:03] i'm in like 15 different channels, if people don't say my name when talking, it doesn't alert me. [03:03] Ok [03:03] I'll do it from now on [03:03] i would up it to about 1500mb-2gigs [03:04] But, won't the swap and RAM conflict? [03:04] no [03:04] not at all actually [03:04] swap, is what RAM uses, when it's full (to keep your pc from crashing) [03:04] hibernating, almost always takes up all your ram... [03:04] so, will the screen issue be fixed? [03:04] general rule of thumb, swap should be 1.5-2x your physical ram. [03:05] thats wha ti'm saying, i can't say 100% thats your problem. [03:05] and the ram isn't filling up yet, although it may fix minecraft [03:05] but.. you definitely don't have enough swap space [03:05] ok [03:05] i doubt it will fix minecraft [03:05] anything else that can fix my screen? [03:05] well, what graphics processor are you using [03:06] hang on [03:07] ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY [03:07] that could also be the issue. [03:07] ATI's can be notoriously buggy in Linux (i have very little experience w/ them.. maybe soemone else here does.. frankly, I avoid them) [03:08] ok... right [03:08] anything i can do [03:11] KM0201 what can i do [03:14] KM0201 [03:15] sorry [03:15] honestly.. 'm not sure a bigger swap is gonna fix the problem (but its certainly not helping) [03:15] it's probably gonna be a PITA to resize your swap. [03:16] idc about swap yet [03:16] what about my screen [03:16] cg2916: yu're not getting it, there is a very good possibility, your lack of swap space, is causing your hibernate/screen prob. [03:17] ok [03:17] i'll make it bigger and then come back to you [03:51] KM0201: sorty of [03:51] sort of* [03:51] Byan: ?.. don't recall the question [03:51] I figured out that my edgers kernel doesn't seem to have alsa modules with it [03:51] my sound issue [03:51] oh. [03:51] whats your sound device? [03:52] ati based "intel hda" [03:53] Byan: how does lspci identify the device? [03:54] computer isn't on right now, but it's a says ati Azalia (intel hda) something like that [03:54] hmm, yah, those are a pain sometimes [03:54] but it's not that though [03:54] I have no sound modules at all.. [03:55] hmm, [03:55] i'm helping someone w/ the same problem (and i think you two have the saame device).. so if i get anywhere, i'll let you know [03:56] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/795815 [03:56] Ubuntu bug 795815 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "No sound in 11.04 with 2.6.39-3 kernel; alsa-source build fails" [Undecided,New] [03:56] she's done so much crap though, she's gonna reinstall [03:56] lol, I doubt it's the same problem as I am using 2.6.39 [03:56] oh ok.. :) [03:57] I am also unable to get sound working in 2.6.38, but it shows up in alsamixer, so I am pretty sure it has to do with fixing the perfed sound device, since I have two [03:58] let me know about that case you're working on, for reference [03:58] ya [03:58] will do. === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden [05:18] my cdrom "mounts" but says this "location is not mountable" i cant open the cd anywhere. i found a thread but i has alot of different solutions the last one seems the easiest which is this but no one replied to it,DOES ANYONE KNOW what this command does? "sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends" [05:19] installs usefull stuff to gvfs [05:19] those should already be installed [05:23] ... well, that was the last suggestion. [05:24] the other ones seemed more complicated to me [05:24] lubun: The "useful stuff" in gvfs-backends is the low level program code modules that let gvfs know how to access several different kinds of remote filesystems. [05:24] so then that wouldnt help with the cdrom? [05:25] jmarsden? [05:25] lubun: I doubt it. Can you mount the same cdrom by hand using mount ? [05:25] Im kind of new so idk how to do that [05:26] mplayer cdda:// ???? [05:26] OK. Are you willing to type in a few commands in a terminal session? [05:26] yeah... i just not to savy thats all [05:27] OK, so first create a new directory to mount the cdrom onto, by doing sudo mkdir /tmp/testcd [05:27] why not just use /mnt? [05:28] just asking [05:28] ok i did that, but bioterror brings up my point about to many solutions. then i get lost in what ive done and what if what i do messes it up? [05:29] bioterror: You can put it anywhere you wan, but this is a temporary test, you shouldn't mount directly to mnt, there may be other things under it already... so I coudl do mkdir /mnt/whatever but then I'd have to remember to rmdir it afterwards to keep things clean... so using /tmp is nice :) [05:29] lubun: See above... using /tmp/ anything means if it messes up you can reboot and it will go away :) [05:29] ok i did that... [05:30] cd? [05:30] Put the cdrom in the drive. Then do sudo mount -t iso9660 -r /dev/sr0 /tmp/testcd [05:31] And tell me if it gives you any messages when you do that. [05:33] lubun: What happened? [05:35] jmarsden: "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0" I have to drives so maybe something else [05:35] OK, put it in the other drive and run the command again :) [05:37] jmarsden: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so [05:38] Aha, so the CDROM does not seem to be a normal CDROM. How was it created and what kind of filesystem is on it? [05:40] ummm? what? [05:40] That CDROM... what is on it and how did it get there? [05:41] How did you create it? [05:41] you mean the disc... [05:41] Yes, the one you put into your sr0 drive :) [05:41] The CDROm we are trying to mount... that one :) [05:41] its an audio disc, speech [05:42] So... why would you be trying to mount an audio CD??? [05:42] it wont open [05:42] i cant do anything with it [05:42] but i see your poin [05:42] t [05:43] is that why it says not mountable as soon as it goes in? [05:44] I'd think so. It is not a CDROM at all. It is an audio CD. CD and CDROM are not exactly the same thing. [05:45] your ruining my life .... lol... jk [05:45] Is the "audio disc" really a nice normal standard audio CD, 44.1KHz 16bit stereo, per the official specs? How did the audio get onto it? [05:46] (IF it is a commercial store bought audio CD, OK, it should be standard... if you made it yourself... we have more questions to ask!) [05:48] no i didnt make it... i bought it [05:48] ;et me try to use rhythmbox [05:49] OK. Do other audio CDs play OK in your Lubuntu machine? [05:50] ok i have to go and look for it through rhythmbox, but i can get it now, on my other machine, it auto"mounts" and prompt to open with file manager or music player... [05:52] lubun: That sounds like GNOME/Nautilus doing its stuff... those do not exist in Lubuntu. try a different audio CD and see if you can play that one automatically in Lubuntu, so you know if the issue is with all audio CDs or just the first one. [05:53] now to find a music cd to try [06:02] * KM0201 hasn't bought a cd in years. [06:03] :) [06:05] yeah... i cant find one either. i have plenty of speeches. but not music. I can copy and paste the sound files out, but i cant play them through rhythmbox... but im just trying to put them in my ipod so it will do i guess. [06:06] on another note. I cannot seem to get my ipod or gogear or sandisk to work always errors. do you remember our chat KM0201? it works on this machine but not my other one... [06:07] hmm [06:08] its ok i guess but this computer is ANCIENT so it is so slow.... the other one is super fast... [06:10] the pc at my shop is 1gig (of 2) 3gig Pent4, this one is 1.6 or 1.7 gig pent 4 with 512 gig ram [06:11] lol, the laptop that just smoked on me the other day, was a 1.6ghz celeron, 1.5gig of ram... .i had almost more ram than i did proc. speed [06:14] wow... this one i got at a thrift store... it was on windows 2000 server edition when i got it... i looked into buying ram, but after reading about that i decided ill just wait and build me a new one... [06:41] KM0201: what was that audio sound controller that you recomended a few days ago? was it audacious? to configure the sound output ad mics and things like that? [07:00] oops, sorry, didn't hear him. === P4R4N01D1 is now known as P4R4N01D [19:03] hi. i have one question about the ext4 filesystem [19:03] is ext4 compatible to ntfs? [19:08] vz88: commpatible? what do you mean. [19:16] KM0201 [19:16] LubuntuPowered: ? [19:16] will respond to all your questions within 5 minutes 24/7 [19:17] that was fast! [19:17] ext4 has nothing to do with ntfs [19:17] what was fast? [19:17] ntfs is propietary filesystem [19:17] response time [19:17] i just saw the channel highlighted showing someone asked a question, thats all. [19:17] he never responded back, so.. i dunno.. but yea, pretty much my responsse was gonna be they are completely different.. [19:18] i still have the same issue with my internet [19:18] i was just curious though, i don't think he phrased his question correctly [19:18] LubuntuPowered: what issue is that? [19:19] not exceeding 4mb, while i get 17mb+ with all my other computers wired and unwired [19:19] but it seems the upload speed on Lubuntu is not affected [19:19] same as my other computers [19:19] hm, that is strange [19:20] i never had a problem like that, and wouldn't even begin to know how to trouble shoot it [19:20] my speeds have always been comparable w/ the service i pay for [19:20] also, the only way i can connect is if i uncheck "Enable Networking" while i "auto eth0" and then check it back in [19:20] otherwise it will not connect [19:20] weird? [19:21] yes [19:21] LubuntuPowered, open terminal and: lspci |grep Network [19:21] hmm [19:21] |grep Ether [19:22] that's correct [19:22] I would like to know your NIC [19:25] it's not showing anything [19:25] well, that would explain your problem... :).. you don't have NIC!. it's amazing its even getting 4mb. [19:26] ... [19:26] no [19:26] i have one [19:26] !pastebin | LubuntuPowered pastebin your entire lspci, and then give us the link [19:26] LubuntuPowered pastebin your entire lspci, and then give us the link: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [19:28] I'm off to sauna ;) [19:28] laters mates ;) [19:28] have fun [19:35] LubuntuPowered: any luck?> [19:38] when trying to delete files from /usr/share/applications with pcmanfm as root gettting " "operation not supported" [19:38] want to delete some unwanted launchers from main menu [19:40] john_rambo: how are you attempting to delete them? [19:41] you're running pcmanfm, as root? [19:42] KM0201, selecting them with mouse & pressing the delete key || tried doing that as myself but that didnt work [19:42] john_rambo: try this... sudo rm /path/to/file.name [19:43] john_rambo: pcmanfm, to my knowledge, does not support being used w/ sudo (at least when i tried it it didn't) [19:44] KM0201, I want to delete all the launchers in the "others" menu ...... quite difficult to determine the filenames from CLI [19:45] john_rambo: browse to the folder/file names w/ pcman fm, then use terminal to delete them. [19:45] KM0201, trying that [19:45] john_rambo: i gotta run for a bit, i'll try to check back in in about 30min [19:54] :) friTTe| is visiting us. [20:26] !pastebinit [20:26] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [20:28] 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX [Linksys EtherFast 10/100] (rev 25) [20:32] hmm [20:32] never heard of that one. [20:32] LubuntuPowered: is that the only one you have there? [21:37] KM0201, that's PCMCIA [21:37] hm, yeah it is [22:07] i have just downloaded lubuntu 11.04 (32bit) and checked the md5 checksum on the torrented iso...which matches but when i run 'usb-creator.exe' it reports a ' End-of-central-directory signature not found...' error [22:07] and suggestions on what could have gone wrong? [22:07] or possibly what my noob hands are doing incorrectly? [22:12] aikInsaan, use unetbootin for example === phillw is now known as Guest33157