[00:05] <aarkerio> hi!!
[00:05] <aarkerio>  what is the command wich start Gnome 3 panels?
[01:30] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[07:59] <saamm> hello I like new gwibber but is there any chance that 5 minute update time limit will be reduced? thanks
[09:41] <Dimmuxx> I know that this isn't the right place to ask but since unity is broken for me/everyone? in oneiric atm I need to use gnome-shell so how do I get rid of the ugly title bar and get the proper gnome-shell one?
[10:30] <jbicha> Dimmuxx: do you mean the one that says Applications Places?
[10:31] <Dimmuxx> jbicha: nope I mean the orange ugly title bar on all open windows
[10:32] <jbicha> I use Gnome Shell & I don't know what orange bar you mean
[10:32] <jbicha> screenshot?
[10:35] <Dimmuxx> http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/Dimmuxx_real/ugly.png
[10:36] <jbicha> install gnome-themes-standard
[10:37] <jbicha> to get Adwaita, the Gnome Shell default or you can use Ambiance
[10:37] <jbicha> install gnome-tweak-tool to easily change themes
[10:40] <Dimmuxx> jbicha: can you repeat what you said because something got screwed up
[10:41] <jbicha> install gnome-tweak tool & you should be able to change your theme back to Ambiance
[10:41] <Dimmuxx> ambiance is already selected
[10:41] <jbicha> did you try rebooting? :-)
[10:42] <Dimmuxx> plenty of times
[10:42] <Dimmuxx> it have always been like this since I installed it
[10:42] <Dimmuxx> changing the theme to awaita just make the title bar blue instead of orange
[10:42] <jbicha> try installing gnome-themes-selected, then change your theme to Adwaita
[10:43] <Dimmuxx> it's already installed
[10:44] <jbicha> Dimmuxx: sorry, I'm not really sure as I've not had a theme problem
[10:45] <Dimmuxx> okay, I guess I just have to live with this until unity is repaired
[10:45] <Dimmuxx> or maybe do a fresh install
[11:15] <Termaster> 776435
[13:01] <antihero> Cheers. Hmm, any idea why my tcc installed version (on oneiric) is 0.9.25-5 when here it states that the latest version is 0.9.25-8? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcc
[13:01] <bazhang> !info tcc
[13:02] <antihero> I'll do update/upgrade
[13:02] <antihero> I only installed it 20 mins ago though
[13:03] <antihero> Hmm, seems to be an update. Ah, 26 hours.
[15:55] <VEndix> ok upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[15:55] <VEndix> how to reset icons that was on desktop, my computer and others?
[15:56] <VEndix> i use gnome3
[15:58] <Dimmuxx> install gnome-tweak-tools
[16:01] <VEndix> yes
[16:01] <VEndix> already done that but that doesn't solve my problem
[16:01] <VEndix> ok i will reboot
[16:20] <VEndix> hello how to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04?
[16:32] <IdleOne> !downgrade
[16:32] <IdleOne> err too late
[17:29] <dr-willis> is there no longer the unity plugin in ccsm? or am  i overlooking it..
[17:35] <coz_> dr-willis,  not sure I dont have oneiric installed,,, you could check with smspillaz  on #compiz-dev  or  #ayatana channel if no one else knows
[17:35] <coz_> dr-willis,  although I havent heard of it being gone
[17:36] <coz_> guess it's time to install oneric :9
[17:37] <dr-willis> heh. i just been toying with it for a day or 2. today it wouldent get to the desktop...
[17:37] <dr-willis> gotta love alphas..
[17:38] <Dimmuxx> yeah good times
[18:03] <jakemp> I've installed libffi-dev, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libffi-dev/filelist and the files in /usr/lib aren't there
[18:14] <trism> jakemp: they have been moved to the multiarch directories (so it should be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in your case), I don't know why the filelist still specifies /usr/lib
[18:14] <jakemp> yeah, I just did a locate, and found em
[18:14] <jakemp> just a habit to google something
[19:54] <bjsnider> yofel, what's that nvidia issue you've got at the moment?
[19:55] <yofel> seems fixed, was nouveau getting into intrd and blocking the nvidia module
[19:55] <yofel> *initrd
[19:55] <bjsnider> what fixed it?
[19:57] <yofel> my bug was marked as dup of bug 810221
[19:58] <bjsnider> k, so it was a udev fix
[20:00] <BUGabundo> bRoas o/
[20:07] <nzmm> t
[21:56] <dr_willis> weird. some how.. unity got removed.. and i had to apt-get install it.. :)
[22:12] <antihero> Hey, anyone have any idea what could be cause Musicbrainz Picard to lock up my entire system?
[22:12] <antihero> It's sort of like as if I launch it, an th
[22:12] <antihero> and then my cursor gets difficult to move, then my sound goes funny, and nothing responds.
[22:13] <antihero> And the only thing I can do is power off my system manually. What on earth could cause such damage and why doesn't the OS protect against such processes (or limit them to a core)?
[22:14] <BUGabundo> antihero: sounds like a mem leak
[22:14] <BUGabundo> try a REISUB next time
[22:15] <antihero> What's tha?
[22:15] <antihero> ah yeah
[22:15] <antihero> in any case, how can it take over my system like that?
[22:16] <antihero> shouldn't there be some sort of task manager process that runs at a higher priority and goes "Hold on, don't do that, you'll fuck up the system"
[22:16] <antihero> on other notes, htop seems to segfault all the time
[22:16] <charlie-tca> When the computer memory becomes completely used up, it will freeze, it doesn't care what OS you use
[22:16] <antihero> charlie-tca: Shouldn't it page, or prevent a program allocating more memory?
[22:16] <rww> htop works fine for me :|
[22:17] <antihero> Seems pretty dumb for a kernel to allow a computer to freeze up entirely
[22:17] <charlie-tca> Are you running some kind of application to tell every app how much memory they are entitled to use?
[22:17] <BUGabundo> rww: once all your RAM is used
[22:17] <BUGabundo> and your swap drive is swaping like hell
[22:17] <BUGabundo> not much you can do
[22:17] <BUGabundo> REISUB may work
[22:18] <antihero> charlie-tca: No, but sounds like a good kernel feature
[22:18] <BUGabundo> antihero: that's why you should have swap on some non system drive
[22:18] <charlie-tca> How would the kernel know what any application requires?
[22:18] <charlie-tca> Is there a list for it to use?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> you could reserve some
[22:18] <antihero> perhaps limit user memory usage to 95% of RAM and leave some utilities for killing stuff in the remaining 5% or whatever
[22:18] <BUGabundo> like the disk does
[22:18] <BUGabundo> 5%
[22:18] <antihero> unless explicitly specified
[22:19] <charlie-tca> There are thousands of applications out there, it will never know how much memory any developer decided his application needs
[22:19] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: seat back, and see it from the other side
[22:19] <antihero> charlie-tca: Yeah but it's rare for an application to actually require 100% of RAM
[22:19] <BUGabundo> from X amount of RAM , 5% is reseved for system/root
[22:20] <antihero> charlie-tca: And in those cases(for instance distributed computing or something_ it could be manually overriden
[22:20] <antihero> BUGabundo: You're saying this exists already?
[22:20] <charlie-tca> um, If I have 512MB ram, and an application needs 1024MB ram, it will already be short. The kernel should not be the one to say I can not use that app
[22:20] <BUGabundo> antihero: no
[22:20] <antihero> charlie-tca: Well yeah, but the app is going to fuck if it can allocate 512MB or 507MB
[22:20] <BUGabundo> +1
[22:21] <BUGabundo> antihero: mind you language, please
[22:21] <antihero> BUGabundo: Sure.
[22:21] <BUGabundo> thank you
[22:21] <antihero> charlie-tca: But at least with my idea, you can recover the system and kill the app
[22:21] <BUGabundo> antihero: you can
[22:21] <charlie-tca> REISUB normally works, too
[22:21] <BUGabundo> go to recovery mode
[22:21] <BUGabundo> RE
[22:21] <antihero> charlie-tca: What exactly does reisub do?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> grab the keyboard, kill it, resume
[22:22] <BUGabundo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[22:22] <antihero> What is sysrq? Printscreen?
[22:22] <BUGabundo> I was having lots of OOM for a few weeks
[22:23] <antihero> And if so, surely that would take a screenshot of the current window
[22:23] <BUGabundo> till I finally created a few swpfiles
[22:23] <BUGabundo> I constantly had to use REISUB to kill chromium
[22:23] <BUGabundo> antihero: sysreq != prtsc
[22:23] <BUGabundo> at least on my keyboards
[22:23] <BUGabundo> don't know what layout you have
[22:24] <antihero> Hmm, I don't seem to have a swap partitoion
[22:24] <BUGabundo> yeah, that would explain why your system freezes so fast
[22:25] <antihero> Oh wait, I do
[22:26] <antihero> lets try one of those funky REISUB
[22:30]  * BUGabundo waves good bye to antihero
[22:32] <antihero> That was fun
[22:32] <antihero> I seem to be getting weird fsck errors on my HDDS on boot despite them being fine
[22:33] <antihero> It asks me to skip/ignore/something on boot
[22:33] <antihero> seeing as oneiric is stuff supposed to crash all the time, or is it quite stable for most people/
[22:37] <antihero> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z58X5GsRIcE/TidYCyUWj1I/AAAAAAAAAho/wHPD8gNzmwg/s912/2011+-+1
[22:37] <antihero> any idea how to deal with this?
[22:41] <BUGabundo> if I were you
[22:42] <BUGabundo> I would boot from live cd and fsck -f all your drives
[22:45] <antihero> BUGabundo: Sure. The drives mentioned are un-mountable though
[22:45] <BUGabundo> not while in a livecd
[22:45] <antihero> BUGabundo: Aye but I can do it from my current install surely
[22:46] <BUGabundo> I wouldn't trust your system right now
[22:46] <BUGabundo> but hey, its *your* system
[22:46] <antihero> BUGabundo: It seems fsck.ntfs isn't found
[22:47] <BUGabundo> apt-get install ntfs-tools
[22:48] <antihero> BUGabundo: Package not found :O
[22:48] <BUGabundo> search for similar ? :P
[22:48] <BUGabundo> !search ntfs
[22:48] <antihero> I already have ntfsprogs
[22:49] <BUGabundo> you can't fsck ntfs
[22:49] <antihero> BUGabundo: Why on earth is it trying to at boot then :\
[22:49] <BUGabundo> cause it has errors?
[22:49] <charlie-tca> or it is marked in /etc/fstab to?
[22:50] <antihero> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443155/ /etc/fstab
[22:50] <antihero> BUGabundo: How would my system know it has errors?
[22:51] <antihero> Perhaps it just has the "dirty" bit flagged
[22:51] <charlie-tca> change the ",async        0        2"  to   ",async        0        0"
[22:51] <charlie-tca> it will stop trying to check them
[22:52] <antihero> charlie-tca: Awesome, cheers!