aarkerio | hi!! | 00:05 |
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aarkerio | what is the command wich start Gnome 3 panels? | 00:05 |
dr_willis | Hmm. | 01:30 |
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saamm | hello I like new gwibber but is there any chance that 5 minute update time limit will be reduced? thanks | 07:59 |
Dimmuxx | I know that this isn't the right place to ask but since unity is broken for me/everyone? in oneiric atm I need to use gnome-shell so how do I get rid of the ugly title bar and get the proper gnome-shell one? | 09:41 |
jbicha | Dimmuxx: do you mean the one that says Applications Places? | 10:30 |
Dimmuxx | jbicha: nope I mean the orange ugly title bar on all open windows | 10:31 |
jbicha | I use Gnome Shell & I don't know what orange bar you mean | 10:32 |
jbicha | screenshot? | 10:32 |
Dimmuxx | http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/Dimmuxx_real/ugly.png | 10:35 |
jbicha | install gnome-themes-standard | 10:36 |
jbicha | to get Adwaita, the Gnome Shell default or you can use Ambiance | 10:37 |
jbicha | install gnome-tweak-tool to easily change themes | 10:37 |
Dimmuxx | jbicha: can you repeat what you said because something got screwed up | 10:40 |
jbicha | install gnome-tweak tool & you should be able to change your theme back to Ambiance | 10:41 |
Dimmuxx | ambiance is already selected | 10:41 |
jbicha | did you try rebooting? :-) | 10:41 |
Dimmuxx | plenty of times | 10:42 |
Dimmuxx | it have always been like this since I installed it | 10:42 |
Dimmuxx | changing the theme to awaita just make the title bar blue instead of orange | 10:42 |
jbicha | try installing gnome-themes-selected, then change your theme to Adwaita | 10:42 |
Dimmuxx | it's already installed | 10:43 |
jbicha | Dimmuxx: sorry, I'm not really sure as I've not had a theme problem | 10:44 |
Dimmuxx | okay, I guess I just have to live with this until unity is repaired | 10:45 |
Dimmuxx | or maybe do a fresh install | 10:45 |
Termaster | 776435 | 11:15 |
antihero | Cheers. Hmm, any idea why my tcc installed version (on oneiric) is 0.9.25-5 when here it states that the latest version is 0.9.25-8? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcc | 13:01 |
bazhang | !info tcc | 13:01 |
ubottu | tcc (source: tcc): Small ANSI C compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.25-8 (oneiric), package size 140 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 armel) | 13:01 |
antihero | I'll do update/upgrade | 13:02 |
antihero | I only installed it 20 mins ago though | 13:02 |
antihero | Hmm, seems to be an update. Ah, 26 hours. | 13:03 |
VEndix | ok upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 | 15:55 |
VEndix | how to reset icons that was on desktop, my computer and others? | 15:55 |
VEndix | i use gnome3 | 15:56 |
Dimmuxx | install gnome-tweak-tools | 15:58 |
VEndix | yes | 16:01 |
VEndix | already done that but that doesn't solve my problem | 16:01 |
VEndix | ok i will reboot | 16:01 |
VEndix | hello how to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04? | 16:20 |
IdleOne | !downgrade | 16:32 |
ubottu | Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. | 16:32 |
IdleOne | err too late | 16:32 |
dr-willis | is there no longer the unity plugin in ccsm? or am i overlooking it.. | 17:29 |
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coz_ | dr-willis, not sure I dont have oneiric installed,,, you could check with smspillaz on #compiz-dev or #ayatana channel if no one else knows | 17:35 |
coz_ | dr-willis, although I havent heard of it being gone | 17:35 |
coz_ | guess it's time to install oneric :9 | 17:36 |
dr-willis | heh. i just been toying with it for a day or 2. today it wouldent get to the desktop... | 17:37 |
dr-willis | gotta love alphas.. | 17:37 |
Dimmuxx | yeah good times | 17:38 |
jakemp | I've installed libffi-dev, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libffi-dev/filelist and the files in /usr/lib aren't there | 18:03 |
trism | jakemp: they have been moved to the multiarch directories (so it should be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in your case), I don't know why the filelist still specifies /usr/lib | 18:14 |
jakemp | yeah, I just did a locate, and found em | 18:14 |
jakemp | just a habit to google something | 18:14 |
bjsnider | yofel, what's that nvidia issue you've got at the moment? | 19:54 |
yofel | seems fixed, was nouveau getting into intrd and blocking the nvidia module | 19:55 |
yofel | *initrd | 19:55 |
bjsnider | what fixed it? | 19:55 |
yofel | my bug was marked as dup of bug 810221 | 19:57 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 810221 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Video output stops on real root after July 12 udev changes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810221 | 19:57 |
bjsnider | k, so it was a udev fix | 19:58 |
BUGabundo | bRoas o/ | 20:00 |
nzmm | t | 20:07 |
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dr_willis | weird. some how.. unity got removed.. and i had to apt-get install it.. :) | 21:56 |
antihero | Hey, anyone have any idea what could be cause Musicbrainz Picard to lock up my entire system? | 22:12 |
antihero | It's sort of like as if I launch it, an th | 22:12 |
antihero | and then my cursor gets difficult to move, then my sound goes funny, and nothing responds. | 22:12 |
antihero | And the only thing I can do is power off my system manually. What on earth could cause such damage and why doesn't the OS protect against such processes (or limit them to a core)? | 22:13 |
BUGabundo | antihero: sounds like a mem leak | 22:14 |
BUGabundo | try a REISUB next time | 22:14 |
antihero | What's tha? | 22:15 |
antihero | ah yeah | 22:15 |
antihero | in any case, how can it take over my system like that? | 22:15 |
antihero | shouldn't there be some sort of task manager process that runs at a higher priority and goes "Hold on, don't do that, you'll fuck up the system" | 22:16 |
antihero | on other notes, htop seems to segfault all the time | 22:16 |
charlie-tca | When the computer memory becomes completely used up, it will freeze, it doesn't care what OS you use | 22:16 |
antihero | charlie-tca: Shouldn't it page, or prevent a program allocating more memory? | 22:16 |
rww | htop works fine for me :| | 22:16 |
antihero | Seems pretty dumb for a kernel to allow a computer to freeze up entirely | 22:17 |
charlie-tca | Are you running some kind of application to tell every app how much memory they are entitled to use? | 22:17 |
BUGabundo | rww: once all your RAM is used | 22:17 |
BUGabundo | and your swap drive is swaping like hell | 22:17 |
BUGabundo | not much you can do | 22:17 |
BUGabundo | REISUB may work | 22:17 |
antihero | charlie-tca: No, but sounds like a good kernel feature | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | antihero: that's why you should have swap on some non system drive | 22:18 |
charlie-tca | How would the kernel know what any application requires? | 22:18 |
charlie-tca | Is there a list for it to use? | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | you could reserve some | 22:18 |
antihero | perhaps limit user memory usage to 95% of RAM and leave some utilities for killing stuff in the remaining 5% or whatever | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | like the disk does | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | 5% | 22:18 |
antihero | unless explicitly specified | 22:18 |
charlie-tca | There are thousands of applications out there, it will never know how much memory any developer decided his application needs | 22:19 |
BUGabundo | charlie-tca: seat back, and see it from the other side | 22:19 |
antihero | charlie-tca: Yeah but it's rare for an application to actually require 100% of RAM | 22:19 |
BUGabundo | from X amount of RAM , 5% is reseved for system/root | 22:19 |
antihero | charlie-tca: And in those cases(for instance distributed computing or something_ it could be manually overriden | 22:20 |
antihero | BUGabundo: You're saying this exists already? | 22:20 |
charlie-tca | um, If I have 512MB ram, and an application needs 1024MB ram, it will already be short. The kernel should not be the one to say I can not use that app | 22:20 |
BUGabundo | antihero: no | 22:20 |
antihero | charlie-tca: Well yeah, but the app is going to fuck if it can allocate 512MB or 507MB | 22:20 |
BUGabundo | +1 | 22:20 |
BUGabundo | antihero: mind you language, please | 22:21 |
antihero | BUGabundo: Sure. | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | thank you | 22:21 |
antihero | charlie-tca: But at least with my idea, you can recover the system and kill the app | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | antihero: you can | 22:21 |
charlie-tca | REISUB normally works, too | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | go to recovery mode | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | RE | 22:21 |
antihero | charlie-tca: What exactly does reisub do? | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | grab the keyboard, kill it, resume | 22:22 |
BUGabundo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 22:22 |
antihero | What is sysrq? Printscreen? | 22:22 |
BUGabundo | I was having lots of OOM for a few weeks | 22:22 |
antihero | And if so, surely that would take a screenshot of the current window | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | till I finally created a few swpfiles | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | I constantly had to use REISUB to kill chromium | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | antihero: sysreq != prtsc | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | at least on my keyboards | 22:23 |
BUGabundo | don't know what layout you have | 22:23 |
antihero | Hmm, I don't seem to have a swap partitoion | 22:24 |
BUGabundo | yeah, that would explain why your system freezes so fast | 22:24 |
antihero | Oh wait, I do | 22:25 |
antihero | lets try one of those funky REISUB | 22:26 |
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antihero | That was fun | 22:32 |
antihero | I seem to be getting weird fsck errors on my HDDS on boot despite them being fine | 22:32 |
antihero | It asks me to skip/ignore/something on boot | 22:33 |
antihero | seeing as oneiric is stuff supposed to crash all the time, or is it quite stable for most people/ | 22:33 |
antihero | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z58X5GsRIcE/TidYCyUWj1I/AAAAAAAAAho/wHPD8gNzmwg/s912/2011+-+1 | 22:37 |
antihero | any idea how to deal with this? | 22:37 |
BUGabundo | if I were you | 22:41 |
BUGabundo | I would boot from live cd and fsck -f all your drives | 22:42 |
antihero | BUGabundo: Sure. The drives mentioned are un-mountable though | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | not while in a livecd | 22:45 |
antihero | BUGabundo: Aye but I can do it from my current install surely | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | I wouldn't trust your system right now | 22:46 |
BUGabundo | but hey, its *your* system | 22:46 |
antihero | BUGabundo: It seems fsck.ntfs isn't found | 22:46 |
BUGabundo | apt-get install ntfs-tools | 22:47 |
antihero | BUGabundo: Package not found :O | 22:48 |
BUGabundo | search for similar ? :P | 22:48 |
BUGabundo | !search ntfs | 22:48 |
ubottu | Found: addingfs, ntfs, nfts, fat32, ntfs-3g, filesystems, windowsdrives, fuse, ntfs3g | 22:48 |
antihero | I already have ntfsprogs | 22:48 |
BUGabundo | you can't fsck ntfs | 22:49 |
antihero | BUGabundo: Why on earth is it trying to at boot then :\ | 22:49 |
BUGabundo | cause it has errors? | 22:49 |
charlie-tca | or it is marked in /etc/fstab to? | 22:49 |
antihero | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443155/ /etc/fstab | 22:50 |
antihero | BUGabundo: How would my system know it has errors? | 22:50 |
antihero | Perhaps it just has the "dirty" bit flagged | 22:51 |
charlie-tca | change the ",async 0 2" to ",async 0 0" | 22:51 |
charlie-tca | it will stop trying to check them | 22:51 |
antihero | charlie-tca: Awesome, cheers! | 22:52 |
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