[00:05] hi!! [00:05] what is the command wich start Gnome 3 panels? [01:30] Hmm. === h00k is now known as riotkittie === riotkittie is now known as h00k === h00k is now known as rww === rww is now known as Guest47159 === Guest47159 is now known as h00k === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [07:59] hello I like new gwibber but is there any chance that 5 minute update time limit will be reduced? thanks [09:41] I know that this isn't the right place to ask but since unity is broken for me/everyone? in oneiric atm I need to use gnome-shell so how do I get rid of the ugly title bar and get the proper gnome-shell one? [10:30] Dimmuxx: do you mean the one that says Applications Places? [10:31] jbicha: nope I mean the orange ugly title bar on all open windows [10:32] I use Gnome Shell & I don't know what orange bar you mean [10:32] screenshot? [10:35] http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u91/Dimmuxx_real/ugly.png [10:36] install gnome-themes-standard [10:37] to get Adwaita, the Gnome Shell default or you can use Ambiance [10:37] install gnome-tweak-tool to easily change themes [10:40] jbicha: can you repeat what you said because something got screwed up [10:41] install gnome-tweak tool & you should be able to change your theme back to Ambiance [10:41] ambiance is already selected [10:41] did you try rebooting? :-) [10:42] plenty of times [10:42] it have always been like this since I installed it [10:42] changing the theme to awaita just make the title bar blue instead of orange [10:42] try installing gnome-themes-selected, then change your theme to Adwaita [10:43] it's already installed [10:44] Dimmuxx: sorry, I'm not really sure as I've not had a theme problem [10:45] okay, I guess I just have to live with this until unity is repaired [10:45] or maybe do a fresh install [11:15] 776435 [13:01] Cheers. Hmm, any idea why my tcc installed version (on oneiric) is 0.9.25-5 when here it states that the latest version is 0.9.25-8? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tcc [13:01] !info tcc [13:01] tcc (source: tcc): Small ANSI C compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.25-8 (oneiric), package size 140 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 hurd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64 armel) [13:02] I'll do update/upgrade [13:02] I only installed it 20 mins ago though [13:03] Hmm, seems to be an update. Ah, 26 hours. [15:55] ok upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 [15:55] how to reset icons that was on desktop, my computer and others? [15:56] i use gnome3 [15:58] install gnome-tweak-tools [16:01] yes [16:01] already done that but that doesn't solve my problem [16:01] ok i will reboot [16:20] hello how to downgrade from 11.10 to 11.04? [16:32] !downgrade [16:32] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [16:32] err too late [17:29] is there no longer the unity plugin in ccsm? or am i overlooking it.. === oCean_ is now known as oCean [17:35] dr-willis, not sure I dont have oneiric installed,,, you could check with smspillaz on #compiz-dev or #ayatana channel if no one else knows [17:35] dr-willis, although I havent heard of it being gone [17:36] guess it's time to install oneric :9 [17:37] heh. i just been toying with it for a day or 2. today it wouldent get to the desktop... [17:37] gotta love alphas.. [17:38] yeah good times [18:03] I've installed libffi-dev, http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/amd64/libffi-dev/filelist and the files in /usr/lib aren't there [18:14] jakemp: they have been moved to the multiarch directories (so it should be /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ in your case), I don't know why the filelist still specifies /usr/lib [18:14] yeah, I just did a locate, and found em [18:14] just a habit to google something [19:54] yofel, what's that nvidia issue you've got at the moment? [19:55] seems fixed, was nouveau getting into intrd and blocking the nvidia module [19:55] *initrd [19:55] what fixed it? [19:57] my bug was marked as dup of bug 810221 [19:57] Launchpad bug 810221 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Video output stops on real root after July 12 udev changes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810221 [19:58] k, so it was a udev fix [20:00] bRoas o/ [20:07] t === yofel_ is now known as yofel === rww is now known as tardis === tardis is now known as rww [21:56] weird. some how.. unity got removed.. and i had to apt-get install it.. :) [22:12] Hey, anyone have any idea what could be cause Musicbrainz Picard to lock up my entire system? [22:12] It's sort of like as if I launch it, an th [22:12] and then my cursor gets difficult to move, then my sound goes funny, and nothing responds. [22:13] And the only thing I can do is power off my system manually. What on earth could cause such damage and why doesn't the OS protect against such processes (or limit them to a core)? [22:14] antihero: sounds like a mem leak [22:14] try a REISUB next time [22:15] What's tha? [22:15] ah yeah [22:15] in any case, how can it take over my system like that? [22:16] shouldn't there be some sort of task manager process that runs at a higher priority and goes "Hold on, don't do that, you'll fuck up the system" [22:16] on other notes, htop seems to segfault all the time [22:16] When the computer memory becomes completely used up, it will freeze, it doesn't care what OS you use [22:16] charlie-tca: Shouldn't it page, or prevent a program allocating more memory? [22:16] htop works fine for me :| [22:17] Seems pretty dumb for a kernel to allow a computer to freeze up entirely [22:17] Are you running some kind of application to tell every app how much memory they are entitled to use? [22:17] rww: once all your RAM is used [22:17] and your swap drive is swaping like hell [22:17] not much you can do [22:17] REISUB may work [22:18] charlie-tca: No, but sounds like a good kernel feature [22:18] antihero: that's why you should have swap on some non system drive [22:18] How would the kernel know what any application requires? [22:18] Is there a list for it to use? [22:18] you could reserve some [22:18] perhaps limit user memory usage to 95% of RAM and leave some utilities for killing stuff in the remaining 5% or whatever [22:18] like the disk does [22:18] 5% [22:18] unless explicitly specified [22:19] There are thousands of applications out there, it will never know how much memory any developer decided his application needs [22:19] charlie-tca: seat back, and see it from the other side [22:19] charlie-tca: Yeah but it's rare for an application to actually require 100% of RAM [22:19] from X amount of RAM , 5% is reseved for system/root [22:20] charlie-tca: And in those cases(for instance distributed computing or something_ it could be manually overriden [22:20] BUGabundo: You're saying this exists already? [22:20] um, If I have 512MB ram, and an application needs 1024MB ram, it will already be short. The kernel should not be the one to say I can not use that app [22:20] antihero: no [22:20] charlie-tca: Well yeah, but the app is going to fuck if it can allocate 512MB or 507MB [22:20] +1 [22:21] antihero: mind you language, please [22:21] BUGabundo: Sure. [22:21] thank you [22:21] charlie-tca: But at least with my idea, you can recover the system and kill the app [22:21] antihero: you can [22:21] REISUB normally works, too [22:21] go to recovery mode [22:21] RE [22:21] charlie-tca: What exactly does reisub do? [22:22] grab the keyboard, kill it, resume [22:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [22:22] What is sysrq? Printscreen? [22:22] I was having lots of OOM for a few weeks [22:23] And if so, surely that would take a screenshot of the current window [22:23] till I finally created a few swpfiles [22:23] I constantly had to use REISUB to kill chromium [22:23] antihero: sysreq != prtsc [22:23] at least on my keyboards [22:23] don't know what layout you have [22:24] Hmm, I don't seem to have a swap partitoion [22:24] yeah, that would explain why your system freezes so fast [22:25] Oh wait, I do [22:26] lets try one of those funky REISUB === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [22:30] * BUGabundo waves good bye to antihero [22:32] That was fun [22:32] I seem to be getting weird fsck errors on my HDDS on boot despite them being fine [22:33] It asks me to skip/ignore/something on boot [22:33] seeing as oneiric is stuff supposed to crash all the time, or is it quite stable for most people/ [22:37] https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-z58X5GsRIcE/TidYCyUWj1I/AAAAAAAAAho/wHPD8gNzmwg/s912/2011+-+1 [22:37] any idea how to deal with this? [22:41] if I were you [22:42] I would boot from live cd and fsck -f all your drives [22:45] BUGabundo: Sure. The drives mentioned are un-mountable though [22:45] not while in a livecd [22:45] BUGabundo: Aye but I can do it from my current install surely [22:46] I wouldn't trust your system right now [22:46] but hey, its *your* system [22:46] BUGabundo: It seems fsck.ntfs isn't found [22:47] apt-get install ntfs-tools [22:48] BUGabundo: Package not found :O [22:48] search for similar ? :P [22:48] !search ntfs [22:48] Found: addingfs, ntfs, nfts, fat32, ntfs-3g, filesystems, windowsdrives, fuse, ntfs3g [22:48] I already have ntfsprogs [22:49] you can't fsck ntfs [22:49] BUGabundo: Why on earth is it trying to at boot then :\ [22:49] cause it has errors? [22:49] or it is marked in /etc/fstab to? [22:50] http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443155/ /etc/fstab [22:50] BUGabundo: How would my system know it has errors? [22:51] Perhaps it just has the "dirty" bit flagged [22:51] change the ",async 0 2" to ",async 0 0" [22:51] it will stop trying to check them [22:52] charlie-tca: Awesome, cheers! === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX