[01:27] <james_w> jcastro, she says "dammit"
[02:56] <mhall119> cjohnston: ping
[02:56] <cjohnston> ya
[02:56] <cjohnston> arent we talking in two other channels
[02:56] <cjohnston> or one channel and one pm
[02:56] <mhall119> sorry, jcastro ping
[02:57] <mhall119> cj<tab> is too close to jc<tab>
[02:57] <mhall119> one of you needs to have your legal name changed
[02:57] <cjohnston> !fail
[02:57] <ubot2> FATAL Error: Operation succeeded
[02:57] <cjohnston> that sounds about right
[02:57] <cjohnston> g'nite
[02:57] <mhall119> night
[05:58] <dpm> good morning all
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[07:07] <nigelb> zomg, xkcd++ http://xkcd.com/927/
[07:19] <dpm> morning dholbach, nigelb
[07:22] <nigelb> Hey dpm , dholbach
[07:26] <dholbach> hola dpm, hi nigelb
[07:29] <nigelb> I was about to ask what happened to kim0, autocomplete told me :D
[07:57] <czajkowski> aloha
[13:35] <paultag> mhall119: so, I decided. I need to find an innocent name that when com is put before it, ends up funny. Like "munism" (munism.com → com.munism)
[13:36] <paultag> mhall119: so I can use something to do my Java hax0ring under
[13:36] <paultag> or munist -- com.munist.manefest.o
[13:36] <paultag> grr, manifest.o *
[13:41] <mhall119> there's a certain irony to that
[13:57] <paultag> mhall119: in what?
[13:58] <nigelb> manefest?
[13:59] <mhall119> paultag: given how much Java is used in big, capitalist instititions
[14:01] <paultag> mhall119: it's a closed spec, yar. It's not really ironic, if it were Python, it'd be ironic because communist (community driven and maintained code) would be supporting capitalist america
[14:01] <paultag> wich is the case
[14:01] <paultag> and is indeed ironic
[14:02] <mhall119> open source isn't communist
[14:02] <paultag> it is
[14:02] <paultag> marxist anyway
[14:02] <mhall119> haven't we had this argument before? multiple times?
[14:03] <paultag> mhall119: yeah you made up some craptastic term like ultra capitalist monitary social blah blah (which is both not a thing and not right :) )
[14:04] <mhall119> I don't recall making up stuff
[14:05] <paultag> i'll find the post after work, it was a most silly term
[14:05] <mhall119> if it's not signed by my GPG key, I'll deny every saying it
[14:05] <paultag> mhall119: it's on FB
[14:06] <mhall119> well then I'll certainly deny it
[14:07] <paultag> brb, have to keep working for the man
[14:07] <paultag> fight the power
[14:10] <mhall119> community
[14:10] <mhall119> communist
[14:12] <AlanBell> am I being silly about bug 773243
[14:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 773243 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu website advertises "Fully compatible with Microsoft Office"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773243
[14:14] <jcastro> dholbach: dpm: I'm going to start the hangout now and just hang out.
[14:15] <dpm> jcastro, sounds good. I need to finish off a couple of things, so I'll join in a while
[14:15] <jcastro> it's just video of me typing my HR goals
[14:15] <nigelb> Be nice to jono?
[14:15] <nigelb> :)
[14:19] <popey> AlanBell: Gerry needs new glasses
[14:20] <jcastro> AlanBell: I 100% agree with you
[14:20] <nigelb> O.M.G. I just saw some intense trolling on inpycon list.
[14:21] <nigelb> paultag: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2011-July/004724.html
[14:21] <nigelb> paultag: Expert trolling :P
[14:21] <nigelb> Well, the thread following that.
[14:27] <AlanBell> thanks popey and jcastro
[14:36] <jcastro> it's like a variation of the wine trap
[14:37] <jcastro> "it all works perfectly if you use it in wine!"
[14:37] <jcastro> oh, so in other words, it doesn't work
[14:38] <popey> How does one drive the classroom bot?
[14:38] <cjohnston> commands
[14:39] <nigelb> popey: what do you want it to do?
[14:39] <nigelb> (its via commands in a PM)
[14:39] <nigelb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/ClassBot
[14:46] <jcastro> dpm: dholbach: ok I restarted it
[14:47] <popey> thanks nigelb
[14:47] <nigelb> popey: let me know if you have trouble :)
[14:48] <popey> oh thats easy
[14:48] <popey> doubt anyone wil turn up for mine though :D
[14:48] <nigelb> lol
[14:50] <dholbach> jcastro, join back
[14:51] <dpm> jcastro, yeah, it's more fun to talk behind jono's back when we're all there
[14:51] <jcastro> I don't think I can join back
[14:51] <jcastro> someone needs to start a new one. :-/
[14:51] <cjohnston> jcastro: did you look at summit?
[14:51] <jcastro> yeah saw that, awesome
[14:52] <dpm> jcastro, I just sent you an invitation to join
[14:54] <dholbach> hey jono
[14:54] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:00] <dholbach> jono, we're waiting for you :)
[15:00] <jono> dholbach, on my way
[15:00] <jono> was replying to a mail
[15:04] <popey> nigelb: how many lines per hour do people seem to be pasting?
[15:11] <AlanBell> I just typed
[15:15] <popey> i pre-prepped mine
[15:16]  * AlanBell was lazy, just made a few notes of things I wanted to cover
[15:16] <popey> i too am lazy
[15:16] <popey> i wrote mine 10 mins ago
[15:32] <nigelb> popey: Just make sure its somewhat realitic
[15:32] <nigelb> realistic
[15:32] <nigelb> I once did a session on the fly.
[15:33] <mhall119> I did too, when somebody didn't show up
[15:35] <popey> are we not supposed to prep then?
[15:35] <mhall119> preparation is generally a good idea
[15:36] <popey> I'll just highlight the whole 170 lines and paste in one go :D
[15:37] <cjohnston> who didn't show up?
[15:37]  * cjohnston whistles and looks around innocently
[15:48] <nigelb> mhall119: *cough* sorry
[15:59] <Daviey> popey: When i next see you, can you autograph my collectors card of you pls?
[15:59] <popey> I can certainly make a mark on it
[15:59] <Daviey> awesome.
[15:59]  * popey says "envelope"
[16:02] <mhall119> Daviey: just have him GPG sign the image
[16:02] <Daviey> ooo
[16:03] <Daviey> the thing is, a hand signed card will fetch more on ebay than a gpg signed one.
[16:03] <nigelb> lol
[16:03] <Daviey> Although, a gpg signed one i could sell more of.
[16:03] <nigelb> "Signed by Alan Pope! The nutter doing UUPC"
[16:03] <mhall119> Daviey: I'd think a GPG signed geek-card would be more desirable than a physically signed geek-card
[16:04] <nigelb> I think the best would be to have a GPG key sign of the image on the back of the card.
[16:04] <mhall119> nigel wins
[16:04] <Daviey> Although, a gpg signed digest next to it in a picture frame above my bed - doesn't really cut it.
[16:05] <mhall119> Daviey: no, make him hand-write the GPG signature on the card
[16:05] <Daviey> ooo
[16:05] <nigelb> mhall119 wins!
[16:05] <mhall119> you'll have the only one, because after doing it once he'll never consent to doing it again
[16:05] <Daviey> But popey will not have time to do that for all the screaming geeks.
[16:06] <mhall119> what, popey can't take a couple hours of his time to sign your card?
[16:08] <Daviey> slack, i know
[16:09] <dholbach> alright my friends - I call it a day
[16:09] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[16:13] <czajkowski> popey: mhall119 anyone in the funky big buttong type documents what folders.... show up
[16:14]  * popey is busy
[16:14] <czajkowski> ok anyone
[16:14] <mhall119> was that english?
[16:15] <czajkowski> mhall119: in the ubuntu button on the left hand side unity
[16:15] <czajkowski> type documents
[16:15] <czajkowski> what "folders" show up
[16:18] <mhall119> czajkowski: http://ubuntuone.com/p/15V4/
[16:20] <czajkowski> hmm
[16:20] <czajkowski> ok
[16:21] <czajkowski> mhall119: thank you
[16:23] <mhall119> np
[16:35] <paultag> mhall119: I came up with a sane solution to my ag.pault problem
[16:42] <paultag> mhall119: I just bought anized.org
[16:43] <cjohnston> nice
[16:44] <mhall119> lol
[16:44] <mhall119> paultag: now you need a project codenamed "chaos"
[16:45] <paultag> mhall119: YES
[16:45] <paultag> that will be my first project
[16:45] <paultag> OK, I need to head to work
[16:45] <paultag> love you all dearly
[16:45] <popey> *tumbleweed* in classroom
[16:45] <mhall119> there ya go
[17:10] <mhall119> paultag: /me ups the ante on java package namespace jokes
[17:10] <paultag> mhall119: I saw that :)
[17:10] <paultag> mhall119: I even thought about trying to snag that domain, but figured it was too short
[17:10] <paultag> mhall119: +1 here :)
[17:12] <mhall119> it's kind of funny how many actual domain names would make inappropriate java package names
[17:13] <paultag> mhall119: dude, right!!!!
[17:13] <mhall119> I guess they'd make inappropriate Active Directory names too
[17:13] <mhall119> I think they do the same
[17:14] <mhall119> American Nuclear Society is amusing, if not outright inappropriate
[17:16] <paultag> :)
[17:17] <paultag> that means I can migrate nookie from com.whube.nookie to org.anized.nookie
[17:17] <paultag> Hahahaha, wait, that's flipping awesome
[17:31] <cjohnston> jcastro: are you currently (right now) able to login to uds.u.c or do you get a error?
[18:59] <cjohnston> jcastro: ping
[18:59] <nhandler> Anyone have experience converting a physical hard drive to a virtual machine image?
[19:00] <pleia2> I've done it by creating a skeleton install on a new volume for a VM and then rsyncing the filesystem over
[19:00] <pleia2> it actually works with some excludes
[19:00] <AlanBell> you can sometimes point a VM at a physical disk and just tell it to use that
[19:03] <paultag> pleia2: +1 that's the best way, I think
[19:03] <nhandler> pleia2: That is a bit trickier when the os is windows ;) I'm getting a new computer and want to put linux on it while preserving the initial contents of the disk
[19:03] <paultag> AlanBell: I wasn't able to do that with VBox :(
[19:03] <paultag> nhandler: barf
[19:03] <nhandler> Although, I guess I could always get a free copy of windows and use that
[19:05]  * topyli coughs at free windows
[19:05]  * paultag coughs at windows
[19:05] <nhandler> topyli: It is all legal (really)
[19:06] <nhandler> paultag: Yeah, I'd prefer not to have to use it, but I'd rather have a vm installed and setup just in case (for school)
[19:06] <paultag> nhandler: mm
[19:07] <AlanBell> paultag: I believe you can if you tweak the xml file by hand
[19:07] <paultag> AlanBell: ah, cool :)
[19:08] <jcastro> nhandler: vmware has some p2v tools for just that sort of thing
[19:08] <jcastro> cjohnston: pong
[19:08] <AlanBell> paultag: http://www.sysprobs.com/access-physical-disk-virtualbox-desktop-virtualization-software
[19:09] <paultag> AlanBell: thanks :)
[19:09] <paultag> about a year too late, though :)
[19:09] <paultag> you rule, though
[19:09] <cjohnston> jcastro: your thoughts on bug 793021 since we are having the two main navs match
[19:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 793021 in summit "Add a today link to the topnav" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/793021
[19:09] <jcastro> sure, sounds good to me
[19:10] <cjohnston> how where do you want to do it so that we can match them
[19:11] <mhall119> yeah, that wasn't exactly a yes or no question
[19:12] <cjohnston> it started yes or no.. now its how
[19:14] <cjohnston> jcastro: do you want to add it as the last link?
[19:14] <cjohnston> or somewhere else in the list
[19:16] <jcastro> whichever
[19:16] <jcastro> whatever you think is best
[19:17] <jcastro> (sorry I don't have too much time today, it's my last day before the move and I'm trying to close out a bunch of stuff)
[19:17] <cjohnston> yup
[19:17] <jcastro> (I don't mean to sound dismissive)
[19:17] <jcastro> (even though I am)
[19:17] <jcastro> (haha just kidding)
[19:17] <cjohnston> yay... jcastro to become a florida team member
[19:17] <cjohnston> ouch
[19:17] <cjohnston> :'-(
[19:17] <jcastro> o/
[19:17] <nigelb> jcastro has become a LISP fan I think :P
[19:18] <nigelb> (atleast I think so (because of the number of paranthesis))
[19:19]  * cjohnston points jcastro to the "Become a member" (or whatever it is) button on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-florida
[19:20] <jcastro> I won't leave -mi though, that's too much to ask, heh
[19:20] <cjohnston> thats fine.
[19:21] <nigelb> cjohnston: we can bribe greg-g to kick him out of -mi :P
[19:22] <cjohnston> hehehe
[19:22] <cjohnston> +2
[19:25]  * greg-g <3's LISP
[19:26] <greg-g> also, I'm leaving Michigan (but not #ubuntu-us-mi) in August :(
[19:26] <cjohnston> you should kick jcastro out anyway
[19:26] <greg-g> good idea
[19:34] <czajkowski> jcastro: you don't have to I am in ireland and UK, jono is in Ca and UK
[19:43] <mhall119> Florida requires that you renounce your citizenship
[19:43] <nigelb> mhall119++
[19:43] <mhall119> actually we don't, but most places will disown you when they find out you moved here
[19:45] <nigelb> haha
[20:19] <jcastro> jono: woo, I am all set with those #$%#$% slides, I can go early if you want.
[20:20] <jono> jcastro, sure give me a few mins
[20:20] <jcastro> \m/
[20:23] <jono> jcastro, G+
[20:23] <jcastro> roight
[20:23] <jcastro> jono: did you share with the right email? it gets confused sometimes
[20:24] <jcastro> jorge.castro@gmail is what you need. :-/
[20:24] <jono> jcastro, invite sent
[20:24] <jono> I added the circle
[21:10] <greg-g> jcastro: who can send to ubuntu-devel and not be moderated?
[21:11] <popey> cjwatson
[21:11] <greg-g> (iow: my message I just sent is in the moderation queue, even though I'm a member of the list and an Ubuntu Member (apropos of the thread))(all these parens apropos of your love of LISP)
[21:19] <jcastro> greg-g: that's happened to me before
[21:20] <popey> jcastro: http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/07/20/s04e11-the-trooper/
[21:20] <popey> its out
[21:23] <jcastro> ooh, thanks!
[21:24] <popey> pimped on G+ too
[21:26] <jcastro> and plus oned!
[21:26] <popey> also on fb :D
[21:26] <popey> thanks
[21:27] <popey> first time publicising via G+
[21:28]  * popey notes someone download on a blackberry!
[21:28] <popey> never ceases to amaze me how people consume the show
[21:32] <Daviey> *nom*
[21:32] <Daviey> greg-g: what is th subject?
[21:33] <greg-g> the membership thread jcastro started
[21:33] <Daviey> greg-g: approved.
[21:33] <greg-g> Daviey: thanks!
[21:51] <topyli> i just linked a blog post on g+, and it picked the wordpress history menu for the blurb. "pick month. january 2005. february 2005...."
[21:52] <topyli> facebook does the right thing but somehow g+ fails
[23:34] <cjohnston> AlanBell: you still around?