[18:53] <tdr112> evening
[18:55] <airurando> howdy
[18:58] <ebel> yo
[18:58] <moylan> hi
[18:59] <airurando> closing the geeknic date picking poll now
[18:59] <tdr112> which date
[18:59] <airurando> hi moylan.
[19:00] <moylan> hey airurando
[19:00] <tdr112> was picked
[19:00] <airurando> 14th sunday
[19:02] <airurando> moylan I didn't get to that today.  hope to tomorrow
[19:02] <moylan> airurando: no worries. i should be in irc anyway if you want
[19:03]  * ebel is upgrading to natty
[19:03] <airurando> moylan: thanks :)
[19:04] <airurando> ebel right now?
[19:04] <ebel> it's downloading...
[19:04] <ebel> started a while ago
[19:05] <airurando> do you want me to chair or will you do it?
[19:05] <airurando> or does anyone else want to chair?
[19:06] <ebel> prob best if you chair...
[19:07] <airurando> OK
[19:07] <airurando> we'll start
[19:07] <airurando> #startmeeting
[19:07] <MootBot> Meeting started at 14:07. The chair is airurando.
[19:07] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[19:08] <airurando> Good evening everyone and thanks for attending
[19:08] <airurando> If you are here for the monthly meeting please indicate so by typing “PRESENT”
[19:08] <airurando> PRESENT
[19:08] <infoturtle> PRESENT
[19:08] <moylan> PRESENT
[19:08] <ebel> PRESENT
[19:08] <airurando> The wiki page for this meeting is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20
[19:09] <tdr112> PRESENT
[19:09] <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20
[19:09] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2011-07-20
[19:09] <airurando> on to the agenda items
[19:10] <airurando> [TOPIC] Review of previous action items
[19:10] <MootBot> New Topic:  Review of previous action items
[19:10] <airurando> During the June meeting there was one task actioned.
[19:10] <airurando> czajkowski to ask BK
[19:11] <airurando> more specifically
[19:11] <airurando> czajkowski to ask Blacknight to extend their sponsored hosting offer for our website
[19:11]  * ebel must apologise
[19:11] <airurando> as far as I am aware this was done and we got a positive response from BK
[19:12] <ebel> i haven't looked into the BK and told czajkowski what she needs
[19:12] <ebel> BK have sponsored another year of hosting for us
[19:12] <tdr112> good stuff
[19:12] <airurando> yes indeed thanks to BK
[19:12] <airurando> ebel: what needs to be done?
[19:13] <ebel> i need to tell czajkowski who wil tell canonical sysadmins the ip address of the bk hosting
[19:13] <ebel> so they can change www.ubuntu-ie.org to point to thr bk hosting
[19:13] <airurando> is everything set up on the BK side?
[19:14] <ebel> the people redoing our hosting (can't remember names) said it's easier if the real domains pointed over
[19:14] <ebel> as of last meeting, bk hosting wasn't configured yet
[19:14] <airurando> I don't understand the detail
[19:15] <airurando> id we point from one to the next and the next isn't ready won't we have downtime?
[19:16] <ebel> yes there would be downtimes
[19:16] <airurando> hmm
[19:16] <airurando> what to do?
[19:16] <ebel> the people volunteering said it would be ~ weekend
[19:17] <ebel> it only occured to me afterwards about downtime
[19:17] <ebel> (after irc meeting)
[19:18] <czajkowski> ebel: yes just mail me and I'll file the RT
[19:18] <airurando> is it to hard to get the whole thing set up on BK and then get canonical to do the forwarding thing?
[19:19] <czajkowski> I dont know the bk side of things
[19:19] <ebel> yes, you could put the ip address in your /etc/hosts
[19:19] <czajkowski> the Canonical side is an email and can take a few days or hours depending on how busy they are
[19:19] <ebel> which lets you 'pretend' that www.ubuntu-ie.org is at BK for just your machine, everyone else sees the old one
[19:21] <airurando> ebel: can you define the steps to be taken from this point to effect a smooth transition.
[19:22]  * ebel can't remember if he mentioned this at the last irc meeting
[19:23]  * airurando can't either
[19:23] <ebel> someone check logs for who offered to do the hosting
[19:23] <ebel> tis a bit silly talking about it without them
[19:23]  * airurando doesn't understand anyway
[19:24] <airurando> infoturtle wern't you and thethomaseffect involved?
[19:24] <infoturtle> I was ages ago but there has been work since without me and I'm unsure where things are at
[19:25] <airurando> at a high level (keep it simple for me please...)
[19:26] <airurando> should the webmasters not get thinks fully set up on BK hosting first?
[19:26] <airurando> *things
[19:26] <ebel> cost benefit trade offs
[19:26] <airurando> oh crikey I don't even understand that....
[19:26] <ebel> also abilities. things that make things easier for one party can make things harder for others
[19:27] <airurando> how can we move this forward?
[19:27] <ebel> who's doing the web hosting?
[19:27] <airurando> blacknight
[19:28] <airurando> isn't that right?
[19:28] <ebel> and no matter what i do need to tell czajkowski details for our hosting
[19:28] <ebel> yes, BK are doing hosting. i meant who in ubuntu-ie is our web maintainer? who's setting it up?P
[19:29] <airurando> thethomaseffect?
[19:29] <infoturtle> it was me and thethomaseffect but I think he's done more on it since I last helped, which was months ago
[19:30] <airurando> shall we shelve it?
[19:30] <airurando> seems a bit like rock and hard place to me.
[19:31] <ebel> no point in you & me deciding what someone else will do, that person needs to be here to talk about it
[19:31] <airurando> cool
[19:31] <airurando> shelved
[19:31]  * ebel suggests waiting till we can talk to web hoster
[19:31]  * ebel should refresh his memory from minutes]
[19:31] <airurando> moving on
[19:31]  * ebel is very unprepared
[19:32] <airurando> [TOPIC] Oneiric Ocelot Ubuntu Global Jam
[19:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Oneiric Ocelot Ubuntu Global Jam
[19:32] <airurando> I raised this item.
[19:32] <tdr112> when is it
[19:33] <airurando> Ubuntu Global Jam for Oneiric Ocelot takes place from 2nd to 4th of September.
[19:33] <airurando> I just thought we should start planning for it now.
[19:34] <airurando> Details of this Global event can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[19:34] <airurando> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[19:34] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[19:34] <airurando> It would be great to keep both Dublin and Limerick up and running and if possible even add to them.
[19:34] <airurando> I believe the more we participate in these Jams the more productive  we will become during them.
[19:34] <airurando> Thoughts anyone?
[19:35] <infoturtle> agreed
[19:35] <infoturtle> I love them despite not helping much
[19:35] <infoturtle> more that come the better
[19:35] <airurando> infoturtle will you lead Limerick again?
[19:35] <ebel> ++
[19:35] <Carles-091labs> Sorry new... I'll ask around 091labs for any interest
[19:35] <Carles-091labs> I mean I'm new here
[19:36] <airurando> Carles-091labs welcome!
[19:36] <infoturtle> sure, I can see who I can talk to, UL is out till sept 5th AFAIK so I duno how I can do this
[19:36] <airurando> It would be great if something was set up for Galway
[19:36]  * airurando loves Galway
[19:36] <airurando> went to College there in the 80s and 90s
[19:36] <ebel> Carles-091labs: welcome! no apology needed. anything we can do to help, jsut ask
[19:37] <Carles-091labs> lots of our members use Ubuntu as our main OS. Hopefully will get some interest
[19:37] <airurando> Carles-091labs that is great
[19:37] <moylan> what are the numbers at the current 2 locations at the last jam.  by having more locations are we not lessening the numbers that turn up at those locations?
[19:37] <airurando> have a look at the wiki page detailed above
[19:37] <tdr112> i will ask if tog will host the dublin one again or we can try some where new
[19:38] <airurando> and as ebel said let us know if we can be of any help
[19:38] <Carles-091labs> having a look at the wiki as we speak
[19:38] <infoturtle> moylan: there were 5 at the limerick one, none of us would have made it to Dublin for it
[19:38] <airurando> tdr112 tog would be great
[19:39] <czajkowski> infoturtle: 5 is better than none
[19:39] <airurando> moylan limerick of Galway folk are less likely to attend Dublin anyway
[19:39] <czajkowski> and its nice to have an alternative venue
[19:39] <ebel> 5 is a decent umber
[19:39] <ebel> think we had 3 or 4 in dub :P
[19:39] <moylan> no arguements there but i worry that if there is a galway one there will be less than 5 at limerick
[19:39] <infoturtle> czajkowski of course, thus why multi location is a good idea
[19:40] <airurando> I think it would be great to get better communication streams up between locations
[19:40] <Carles-091labs> what would be the best way to communicate
[19:40] <infoturtle> moylan: all the ones at the limerick one were from Limerick
[19:40] <infoturtle> Don't think they'll go to Galway for one
[19:40] <moylan> fair enough! i sit corrected :-)
[19:41] <airurando> Carles-091labs at the mo all we have is IRC
[19:41] <airurando> we toyed with the idea of ebel on Ustream last time
[19:41] <infoturtle> I don't mean to belittle, I just can't track to Dublin for them and like the set up
[19:41] <Carles-091labs> would be nice to have some video streaming on the day... ustream stream perhaps?
[19:41] <czajkowski> it worked well the last day 1 day face to face
[19:41] <czajkowski> and if we want to do more
[19:41] <czajkowski> we can all do stuff via irc
[19:42] <czajkowski> at the end of the day we're all on irc to help one another over the day
[19:42] <airurando> and as always
[19:42] <airurando> we can build on things global Jam to global Jam
[19:42] <tdr112> i can set up a ustream for the day or skype
[19:42] <infoturtle> that would be great
[19:43] <airurando> I think it would be brilliant to get the three location up and running :)
[19:43] <tdr112> so are thinking one day in person and one day one irc again
[19:44] <airurando> Carles-091labs can I action you to investigate the possibility of hosting one in Galway
[19:44] <airurando> no pressure
[19:44] <Carles-091labs> hosting what exacly?
[19:44] <tdr112> a bug jam
[19:45] <airurando> Carles-091labs aye a Ubuntu Global Jam
[19:45] <airurando> hosting/holding/having one.
[19:45] <Carles-091labs> I'm going to try to get people interestd
[19:45] <tdr112> a one day event , one go from about 10 am until about 5 or 6 pm
[19:45] <airurando> Carles-091labs cool
[19:46] <Carles-091labs> but it may be just myself :P
[19:46] <airurando> could you report back at next months meeting?
[19:46] <Carles-091labs> ok
[19:46] <tdr112> Carles-091labs: no worrys
[19:46] <airurando> thanks
[19:47] <airurando> infoturtle: can I action you with leading limerick?
[19:47] <airurando> tdr112: can I action you with asking TOG?
[19:47] <Carles-091labs> Going need a bit on the day... never actually tackle any bug fixing before...
[19:47] <tdr112> yes
[19:47] <infoturtle> yep
[19:48] <infoturtle> I'll see who I can talk to in the colleage about it
[19:48] <airurando> Carles-091labs It really doesn't matter what's achieved
[19:48] <airurando> have fun and learn
[19:48] <ebel> great way to meet people face to face
[19:48] <Carles-091labs> cool... perhaps a tiny bug fixing for starters
[19:49] <tdr112> infoturtle: or milklabs
[19:49] <airurando> [ACTION] infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick.
[19:49] <MootBot> ACTION received:  infoturtle will organise UGJ Limerick.
[19:49] <infoturtle> tdr112: true, I'll ask around
[19:50] <airurando> [ACTION] tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin
[19:50] <MootBot> ACTION received:  tdr112 will ask TOG to once again host UGJ Dublin
[19:50] <Carles-091labs> in the wiki says from the 2 to the 4... Do we have a more exact date for this?
[19:50] <airurando> what ever day suits
[19:50] <infoturtle> Sat the 3rd?
[19:50] <infoturtle> ???
[19:50] <airurando> usually we hold Jams on a Sat
[19:51] <Carles-091labs> Sat it is then
[19:51] <airurando> infoturtle I agree
[19:51] <tdr112> we find a in person is better for the sat
[19:51] <tdr112> and online on sat
[19:51] <airurando> face to face on Sat
[19:51] <tdr112> *sun
[19:51] <airurando> online Sunday?
[19:51] <airurando> cool.
[19:52] <infoturtle> ok, so the 4th for Limerick
[19:52] <infoturtle> just to make sure
[19:52] <airurando> infoturtle 3rd
[19:52] <tdr112> 3rd
[19:52] <infoturtle> ah
[19:52] <infoturtle> so all of em on the 3rd
[19:52] <airurando> not obligatory but it might be best
[19:53] <tdr112> 3rd in person
[19:53] <tdr112> and online on the 4th
[19:53] <infoturtle> cool
[19:53] <airurando> cool
[19:53] <airurando> anything else on this
[19:53] <Carles-091labs> sounds good to me
[19:53] <airurando> cool
[19:54] <airurando> moving on so
[19:54] <airurando> [TOPIC] August Geeknic
[19:54] <MootBot> New Topic:  August Geeknic
[19:54] <airurando> The poll has been closed and the results are in.
[19:55] <airurando> The poll can be viewed at http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8
[19:55] <airurando> [LINK] http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8
[19:55] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://doodle.com/wz7rby5ev2wr2ep8
[19:55] <airurando> Sunday the 14th of August had the most votes at 4.
[19:55] <Carles-091labs> can anybody care to explain what is Geeknic, please
[19:56] <airurando> a picnic for geeks
[19:56] <Carles-091labs> lol brilliant
[19:56] <airurando> there is a website somewhere
[19:56] <airurando> http://geeknic.org/
[19:56] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://geeknic.org/
[19:56] <Carles-091labs> thanks
[19:57] <airurando> It would be great to have one of these in Galway also sometime :)
[19:57] <airurando> Can the Dublin centric guys pick a location for this?
[19:57] <Carles-091labs> we had a bbq the other day... would love a geeknic too
[19:58] <airurando> Carles-091labs these are not ubuntu specific
[19:58] <tdr112> airurando: i am not sure if i can make this one so i better not pick it
[19:59] <moylan70> a poll for location perhaps?
[19:59] <airurando> moylan will you do it?
[19:59] <infoturtle> I can't make it either
[19:59] <airurando> I don't know enough about Dublin.
[20:00] <airurando> tdr112 no bother
[20:00] <airurando> infoturtle no bother
[20:00] <airurando> we should have a location picked by the start of the month.
[20:00] <airurando> ebel any views?
[20:01] <ebel> Carles-091labs: geeknics are also attempted to get non-pub meet ups
[20:01] <airurando> moylan70 will you put up the poll?
[20:01] <ebel> location... dunno, somewhere outside, greesnspaces
[20:01] <ebel> loads of parks in dublin.... suppose...
[20:01] <airurando> what markets run on Sunday?
[20:02] <ebel> oh yeah
[20:03] <airurando> we do need a location
[20:03] <airurando> anyone?
[20:04] <moylan> i'll try and put up a poll. i'll throw the link out in the email list
[20:04] <Carles-091labs> leaving soon... How do you comunicate on a regular basis ??? mainling list ?
[20:04] <airurando> thanks moylan
[20:04] <airurando> Carles-091labs mailing list and here on IRC
[20:05] <airurando> are you on the mailing list?
[20:05] <infoturtle> Carles-091labs
[20:05] <Carles-091labs> ok. I send a request to join the mailing list earlier
[20:05] <infoturtle> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ie
[20:05] <ebel> Carles-091labs: mailing lsit or this channel
[20:05] <infoturtle> lol, link fail
[20:05] <Carles-091labs> ok.. I'll be in touch
[20:05] <airurando> cool
[20:06] <infoturtle> nice to meet you Carles-091labs
[20:06] <airurando> moylan we can only give the pool till the first of the month
[20:06] <airurando> *poll
[20:06] <moylan> airurando: understood
[20:06] <airurando> great and thanks
[20:07] <airurando> [ACTION] moylan to generate a doodle poll  to decide on the location for the August geeknic
[20:07] <MootBot> ACTION received:  moylan to generate a doodle poll  to decide on the location for the August geeknic
[20:07] <airurando> anything else on this
[20:07] <infoturtle> nope
[20:08] <airurando> moylan locations where food can be purchased would be good
[20:08] <airurando> ok
[20:08] <airurando> moving on
[20:08] <airurando> [TOPIC] Any other business
[20:08] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any other business
[20:09] <moylan> i was going to list the last few places were geeknics were held, stephens green, peoples park, phoenix park. etc and hopefully someone will email other suggestions.
[20:09] <tdr112> nope
[20:09] <infoturtle> I've one bit that not realy important
[20:09] <airurando> shoot infoturtle
[20:09] <airurando> moylan sounds good
[20:09] <infoturtle> I've 3/4 of the stack of CD's airurando gave me, of 11.04 live CD's, if anyone needs any I'll be happy to post them if yer short
[20:10] <infoturtle> I missed the geeknic cause of a death so never got to pass em out
[20:10]  * airurando also has 30 or so CDs
[20:10] <airurando> infoturtle I brought some along
[20:11] <airurando> ok
[20:11] <airurando> just want to acknowledge our reapproval
[20:12] <airurando> [TOPIC] The successful reapproval effort of our loCo Team
[20:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  The successful reapproval effort of our loCo Team
[20:12] <airurando> It was great to see that our efforts in terms of hosting events and other matters were well received by the LoCo Council.
[20:12] <airurando> Onwards and Upwards
[20:12] <airurando> :)
[20:12] <airurando> still smiling....
[20:13] <airurando> [TOPIC] Date for next meeting
[20:13] <MootBot> New Topic:  Date for next meeting
[20:13] <airurando> The third Wednesday in August will fall on the 17th of the month.
[20:13] <airurando> Any objections to that being the date for the next meeting?
[20:13] <infoturtle> nope, I'm down with that
[20:13] <moylan> works for me
[20:14] <airurando> [AGREED] The monthly teamIRC meeting for August will take place on 17 Aug 11.
[20:14] <MootBot> AGREED received:  The monthly teamIRC meeting for August will take place on 17 Aug 11.
[20:14] <airurando> does anyone have anything else?
[20:15] <airurando> going once
[20:15] <airurando> going twice
[20:15] <infoturtle> a buck!
[20:15] <airurando> ha ha
[20:15] <airurando> gone
[20:15] <infoturtle> woo hoo, I win!
[20:16] <airurando> thanks all for attending and participating.
[20:16] <airurando> endmeeting
[20:16] <airurando> whoops
[20:16] <airurando> #endmeeting
[20:16] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 15:16.
[20:17] <airurando> infoturtle what about the hackerspace and the learning hub
[20:17] <airurando> CD distribution that is
[20:17] <infoturtle> oh
[20:17] <infoturtle> good idea
[20:17] <infoturtle> I did the hackspace alright
[20:18] <infoturtle> left about 15 in total of the 3 types
[20:18] <airurando> there is always the next Global Jam also and the start of the academic year
[20:18] <infoturtle> ya, I hauld some to that too
[20:18] <infoturtle> *I'll
[20:20] <Carles-091labs> will the meeting be at 8pm?
[20:20] <infoturtle> I must fly, got poker to play
[20:20] <infoturtle> c y'all again
[20:21] <Carles-091labs> talking about the one in August 17. Are they always at the same time?
[20:21] <Carles-091labs> 8pm?
[20:21] <moylan> Carles-091labs: yes
[20:21] <airurando> yip
[20:22] <airurando> Carles-091labs unless someone objects
[20:22] <Carles-091labs> ok, thanks... (adding to calendar)
[20:22] <airurando> it will always be at 8pm on the third Wednesday on each month
[20:22] <Carles-091labs> ok. good to know
[20:22] <airurando> *of each month
[20:23] <airurando> no problem and thanks for joining in!
[20:23] <Carles-091labs> no problem
[20:24] <airurando> Carles-091labs we also microblog on identi.ca and twitter
[20:24] <airurando> ubuntuie is the account on both
[20:25] <airurando> infoturtle maintains the ubuntu-ie presence on facebook.
[20:25] <Carles-091labs> that's why i joined today... somebody retweeted about this
[20:26] <airurando> great
[20:26] <airurando> delighted the tweets get through
[20:26] <Carles-091labs> i think it was jeffrey
[20:26] <airurando> to people that want to hear :)
[20:27] <airurando> aye he and angryearthling (aka moylan) tweeted this