[02:06] <tgm4883> I'm working on cleaning up the lintian warnings here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/mythbuntu-bare-1107192257/lintian what is a good way to resolve no-complete-debconf-translation?
[02:06] <tgm4883> It seems that if nobody translates my software, that I won't ever be able to get rid of this warning
[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[11:50] <dnivra> hello. I'd come a few days ago regarding the packaging of open teacher(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/682852). As said here, I mailed Debian(debian edu to precise) about 5 days ago and nobody have responded to it at all.
[11:54] <dnivra> should I continue asking debian if they'll upload the package? I do not mind doing so-I've to keep dropping into the IRC channel every now and then. but after no reply for 5 days, I wonder if they'll reply.
[11:59] <Laney> dnivra: can you summarise the discussion to date in a mail to debian-derivatives@lists.debian.org (cc-ed to debian-edu too)?
[11:59] <Laney> I or someone else will try to help you there
[12:00] <dnivra> Laney: will do.
[12:00] <Laney> thanks
[12:07] <dnivra> Laney: should I mention the Ubuntu bug? and should I mentioned you asked me to email the list?
[12:08] <Laney> dnivra: you can do if you like. I imagine it's something that both debian-edu and edubuntu would benefit from.
[12:12] <Laney> highvoltage: ^^^ maybe you want to do an initial packaging review? :-)
[12:48]  * highvoltage catches up
[12:52] <Laney> just because I saw you filed the bug
[12:54] <highvoltage> dnivra: debian-edu is also a small team so it's possible that they could have just missed it
[12:55] <highvoltage> dnivra: I could do an initial review if you like, I'm not a DD but I'm good at spotting common problems, if the package is in good shape then you could get any debian developer to sponsor it, we have a few hanging out here :)
[12:56] <Laney> I was hoping that posting to -derivatives would make -edu wake up, but failing that anyone else can sponsor indeed
[12:58] <dnivra> Laney: highvoltage I just found that open teacher has released a new version and I've a packaging of an older version. so I'll have to do the packaging again.
[12:58] <dnivra> should I do the packaging before posting to -derivatives? i still haven't posted yet.
[12:59] <Laney> most of the stuff should carry over (depends on what exactly has changed) — use uupdate to move to the new release
[12:59] <Laney> it might be best to get it as current as you can and then post to mentors
[12:59] <highvoltage> I guess using the debian-mentors list might be a better idea, having the package ready first... yeah what Laney said :)
[12:59] <Laney> s/post/upload/
[13:00] <Laney> then you can mail derivatives and edu and get highvoltage to review!
[13:00] <Laney> such fun
[13:02] <dnivra> Laney: i'll update to the current ASAP. and about -mentors mailing list, i'd initially posted to them and they asked me to ask debian-edu to sponsor.
[13:02] <Laney> more focused lists make sense, indeed
[13:05] <dnivra> and they weren't very enthusiastic of the name
[13:05] <dnivra> debian-edu that is
[13:08] <Laney> i'm sure that can be worked around
[13:08] <Laney> -derivatives can help you here
[13:10] <dnivra> oh that's great! I'll get the updated packaging into debian mentors asap
[15:07] <micahg> dupondje: hi, I've got a task for you if you choose to accept it :), it would be nice to go through the bugs tagged upgrade-software-version and request syncs/do merges for stuff that's in Debian already before Feature Freeze (Aug 11)
[16:27] <dupondje> micahg: I can search that tag on launchpad ?
[16:28] <micahg> dupondje: yep
[16:28] <dupondje> will do that next :)
[16:29] <dupondje> going trough all the ftbfs now
[16:29] <dupondje> and syncing those that have newer version in debian with fix
[16:31] <micahg> dupondje: thanks, BTW, we can fix FTBFS after Feature Freeze (new upstream still needs FFe in most cases, but it's easier to get for a reason like FTBFS fix, disclaimer: IANA release team member)
[16:36] <dupondje> somebody around with an armel builder ? :)
[16:41] <dupondje> Btw
[16:41] <dupondje> what can we do with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mlton/20100608-4
[16:41] <dupondje> ?
[16:41] <dupondje> armel build waits for mlton ...
[16:43] <micahg> dupondje: it needs to be bootstrapped by an AA I think
[16:44] <broder> what's the current stance on FFes for universe? it seemed like we were sort of dropping them when motu-release went away
[16:44] <broder> (since presumably ubuntu-release has better things to do than review a bunch of unseeded packages)
[16:44] <micahg> broder: tumbleweed and Laney are now on the release team to help with that :)
[16:45] <broder> ah, cool
[19:42] <dupondje> Could somebody check https://launchpadlibrarian.net/75520549/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-i386.openmpi_1.4.3-2.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?
[21:00] <Laney> broder: no, no dropping
[21:23] <dupondje> micahg: searching on launchpad for upgrade-software-version seems to give timeout
[21:28] <dupondje> ok worked now
[21:29] <dupondje> micahg: first example. Package got removed in Ubuntu/Debian. Bug is a upgrade request from 2007. Put as Invalid ? or ?
[21:32] <Rhonda> dupondje: Sounds reasonable.
[21:33] <dupondje> To bad I don't seem to have permissions to set it Invalid ... heh
[21:33] <ajmitch> maybe with an explanation of why it was removed, if that's still around
[21:35] <dupondje> ------------------- Reason -------------------
[21:35] <dupondje> RoDPMT; replaced by plone4 (soon to come); RC buggy
[21:35] <dupondje> ----------------------------------------------
[21:35] <dupondje> and its still not there :p
[21:36] <ajmitch> yeah, there were reasons for removing much of that :)
[21:37] <ajmitch> it tended to need a version of python that was years out of date
[21:37] <dupondje> yep just saw that also indeed
[21:37] <dupondje> 2.4 :p
[21:37] <ajmitch> you found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564956 ?
[21:38] <dupondje> y
[21:47] <dupondje> Sometimes you would like to be able to upgrade a debian package :p
[21:47] <paultag> dupondje: debian's easy to play with, file a bug where it'll get seen
[21:48] <paultag> oh jeez, that bug is fine
[21:48] <paultag> might want to poke it or mail the debian ftp-team :)
[21:48] <dupondje> paultag: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621486
[21:48] <dupondje> seems like that doesn't work :p
[21:49] <paultag> dupondje: attach a patch with it
[21:49] <paultag> dupondje: then email the maint, and if you really would like it, prepare a NMU
[21:50] <paultag> dupondje: but it looks like security issues are present, so QA might help you fast track that and do a QA upload
[21:51] <paultag> dupondje: if there are CVEs file them important against it and you can go from there. If not, just report the exploit and how to dupe it, and why it's of a high severity :)
[21:53] <dupondje> heh ok :)
[21:53] <dupondje> i'll get that fixed
[21:53] <dupondje> tomorrow ... :D
[21:53] <dupondje> nite
[21:58] <paultag> dupondje: night :)
[22:12] <jtaylor> why is so much arch dependent :(
[22:12] <jtaylor> just plugged in my netbook and get 80% cache misses as my main desktop is a different arch :((
[22:12] <jtaylor> (while updating)
[22:13] <jtaylor> does anyone know when debdelta is goind to be usable?
[22:13] <jtaylor> should be this cycle?
[22:15] <broder> jtaylor: i haven't heard any motion on it since uds, so i'm guessing probably not at this point
[22:16] <broder> huh, i'm apparently wrong, actually
[22:16] <broder> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-debdelta
[22:29] <jtaylor> hey it even works in natty, but not very good ^^
[22:29] <jtaylor> each call loads a single delta
[23:52] <micahg> dupondje: yeah, that query is timeout prone ATM, in the example you gave, you can explain that there's a new version in the form of a new library