| chilts | hey all ... I have a question, anyone recommend a nice and small WiFi USB dongle that works fine with Lucid? | 02:07 |
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| chilts | if I'm stuck with a non-working RTA5390 lappy, then I'll need something else to make it work :) | 02:07 |
| * ojwb is interested too - wifi in my laptop doesn't work well | 02:09 | |
| chilts | I imagine a Dickies one would be fine | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | chilts: yeah, el cheapo ones from DSE work fine in my (limited) experience | 02:10 |
| * ibeardslee is lucky, never had to revert to doing that | 02:10 | |
| * chilts looks | 02:11 | |
| chilts | this looks nice and small -> http://dicksmith.co.nz/product/XH1632/d-link-wireless-n-nano-usb-adaptor | 02:13 |
| ojwb | i guess wifi doesn't need much of an aerial | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | the last one I bought ended up being ralink-based, it never worked very well | 02:17 |
| chilts | yeah, I just can't even get it to recongise the adapter | 02:18 |
| ajmitch | seems like that d-link one uses a realtek driver & should work | 02:18 |
| chilts | closest is that 'iwconfig' says 'wlan0 Ralink STA' | 02:18 |
| chilts | ajmitch: yeah, it sounds like it might work | 02:18 |
| chilts | pre-Lucid it seemed to give problems for some people though | 02:18 |
| chilts | ok, seems like it won't work on Lucid without downloading and compiling the RealTek driver -> http://samiux.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-realtek-8192su-usb-dongle.html | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | it may work if you use a backported kernel | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | there's a backport from maverick in lucid-updates & one from natty in lucid-proposed | 02:21 |
| mwhudson | ok time to reboot into my self compiled kernel! | 02:21 |
| * mwhudson crosses fingers | 02:21 | |
| ajmitch | mwhudson: see you later | 02:21 |
| chilts | much later :-p | 02:22 |
| mwhudson | phew | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | back in one piece? | 02:23 |
| mwhudson | and my external monitor support works again | 02:24 |
| chilts | heh | 02:25 |
| chilts | ajmitch: ok, so I currently have linux-image-2.6.32-28-generic installed ... that's the right package to upgrade aye? (to linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic or the like) | 02:26 |
| * chilts is a dunce when it comes to kernel | 02:26 | |
| chilts | s | 02:26 |
| ajmitch | chilts: not sure, probably :) | 02:28 |
| chilts | oh, I just meant that's the package to install to upgrade the kernel? | 02:28 |
| chilts | (not specifically about the wifi dongle) :) | 02:29 |
| ajmitch | same answer as above | 02:29 |
| chilts | heh, okay, thanks anyway :) | 02:29 |
| * chilts will try it | 02:29 | |
| ibeardslee | I think you just need linux-image-kernel installed | 02:29 |
| mwhudson | kernel packaging is a bit confusing | 02:29 |
| ibeardslee | that's a metapackage to keep the latest linux-image-*-generic | 02:29 |
| ibeardslee | I think you just need *linux-image-generic* installed | 02:30 |
| mwhudson | because the version is in the package name (as well as the version) | 02:30 |
| chilts | riiiight | 02:30 |
| ojwb | you don't actually need any kernel packages installed, AIUI | 02:31 |
| ojwb | though obviously you need a kernel | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | ojwb: it does make things easier | 02:31 |
| chilts | so if you don't need a kernel package, where do you get the kernel from? | 02:31 |
| chilts | obvious not KFC :) | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | ibeardslee: linux-image-generic may not upgrade to backported kernels, for good reasons :) | 02:31 |
| ojwb | build one by hand, for example | 02:31 |
| ibeardslee | ajmitch: ahhh | 02:31 |
| chilts | oh yeah, no, I'm not into that :) | 02:31 |
| ojwb | IIRC there's a question about it in the debian NM process | 02:31 |
| ajmitch | ojwb: there's also a question about whether libc6 should be essential: yes | 02:32 |
| ojwb | of course not, you might want to stick with libc5! | 02:33 |
| mwhudson | or bionic! | 02:33 |
| * mwhudson falls over | 02:33 | |
| * ajmitch wonders when NZ will get more DDs so we can get to the top of the per-capita rankings | 02:33 | |
| chilts | ok, I have just rebooted with linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic ... seems like it's fine | 02:34 |
| ojwb | we have potential certainly | 02:34 |
| chilts | so hopefully that D-Link thing will work when I buy it later :) | 02:34 |
| ojwb | perhaps we should just persuade more to move here | 02:34 |
| ajmitch | we have a few imports | 02:34 |
| ojwb | me, for example | 02:35 |
| ojwb | though maybe I actually became a DD after moving here | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2011/06/12#devel-countries-201106-3 says that we were in 3rd place last year | 02:36 |
| ibeardslee | I reckon that assume John "retard" Key doesn't finish selling our soul to the US corps and the patent law gets signed hand happening, we'll be able to attract more imports | 02:36 |
| ojwb | it's a shame it doesn't invalidate existing software patents though | 02:36 |
| ojwb | but I can see that's harder to push through | 02:36 |
| chilts | wireless report: bought the DLink DWA 131, stuck it in whilst on the train and it worked pretty much immediately | 06:09 |
| * chilts is happy :) | 06:09 | |
| chilts | thanks for your collective help with figuring out what to do with my kernel earlier :) | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | excellent :) | 06:10 |
| hads | Prompted by the latest posts on NZLUG I just logged in with GNOME2 for the first time in a couple months. It's odd. | 08:49 |
| hads | I can't keep my eyes off the bottom panel and keep moving my mouse to the left of the screen to launch things. Funny how quickly you get used to things. | 08:51 |
| mwhudson_ | hads: :) | 10:33 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:02 |
| karora | evening! | 19:31 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:48 |
| ibeardslee | .. and a brief goodbye while the server gets a reboot | 19:48 |
| chilts | morningz | 20:43 |
| chilts | hads: yeah, I used Gnome for about 20 mins yesterday and when I went back to XMonad, I kept doing Ctl-Alt-Arrow to switch desktops | 20:45 |
| chilts | am back into using Mod4-<Number> again now :) | 20:45 |
| ibeardslee | gnome does have a key combination to change directly to windows | 20:49 |
| chrismsnz | morning | 21:06 |
| snail | morning | 21:26 |
| Atamira | morning | 21:30 |
| thumper | morning | 21:34 |
| mwhudson | morning | 21:45 |
| hads | morning | 21:55 |
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