/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/20/#ubuntu-ops.txt

elky<an8yearoldvagyna> neight <-- no no nono nonono no no no no no no.00:31
h00kI didn't sound that one out.00:31
h00k>.<00:31
h00kdoes that first part stay consistent? (the web gateway)00:33
elkyyes00:33
elkythat's the hash00:33
h00kokay, just making sure, I forget that part.00:34
elky* an8yearoldvagyna is now known as MiraclePenys <-- noted in #freenode00:36
IdleOnebanned from #u00:37
Jordan_UIs Benkinooby (currently in #ubuntu) the same user as Benk_ (the user who was removed from #ubuntu for giving a mallicious command)? The nick is similar and Benkinooby said "lol" after Benk_'s removal.00:39
IdleOneJordan_U: would need to check with staff to see if they are ban evading with that cloak00:42
Jordan_UIdleOne: There is no ban that I know of, and Benkinooby was in the channel before Benk_ was removed.00:44
Jordan_UNo ban yet at least, I was planning to add a ban forward for the malicious command incident.00:44
IdleOnemight be the same user and hopefully the removal knocked some sense into them00:45
Jordan_UThe "lol" suggests otherwise :(00:45
Jordan_UI guess there isn't much to do about it at the moment though.00:45
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Tm_Tmorning05:02
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Myrttiwhat is KM0201 doing?06:34
bazhangPM helping jen?06:34
vibhavAm I unabnned10:27
Tm_Tno, you're not10:28
Tm_T1824.42 <+ikonia> vibhav: could you please leave this channel, and come back no sooner than 2 weeks10:28
Tm_Tvibhav: I would kindly ask you to follow the request ikonia made yesterday10:29
vibhavWhy?10:35
vibhavikonia abuses his op powers10:35
ikonianot this again10:36
vibhavHe does10:36
ikoniavibhav: you are currently ban evading in #ubuntu10:36
ikoniaI've removed you10:36
vibhavOk10:36
vibhavI was not ban evading10:36
ikoniavibhav: do you know you are banned in #ubuntu yes/no10:37
ikoniavibhav: I explained in detail the reason you where banned yesterday10:37
vibhavYes10:37
ikoniaso why did you join #ubuntu10:37
vibhavThe reason was not approriate10:37
vibhavXchat automatically joins #ubuntu10:37
ikoniavibhav: right, so you are ban evading, I'm informing you I've removed you10:37
vibhavMute me10:37
vibhavso you are ban evading is a wrong sentence10:38
ikoniano, I've removed you as you are ban evading10:38
ikoniavibhav: either way, we'll discuss the ban in 2 weeks as I said yesterday10:38
vibhavWhy10:38
vibhavikonia make this clear - I read that complete guide and gave it to him10:38
ikoniafor the reasons I explained yesterday which I don't want to re-cover pointlessly again10:39
vibhavIts not important for me to Use that guide10:39
ikoniait was important for you to have read it and understood it before giving it to people10:40
ikoniayou'd been warned and banned for this behaviour before, you did it again, you got re-banned, it's that simple10:40
ikoniaI'm not going to discuss it further10:40
vibhavI understood and read it10:40
vibhavWhy10:40
vibhavjust because you are Losing the argument?10:40
vibhavThere is nothing Simple in it10:40
ikoniavibhav: 1.) I asked you clearly "have you read this guide"10:40
ikoniavibhav: you said "no"10:41
ikoniavibhav: I banned you10:41
ikoniavibhav: you then said "oh, I have read it"10:41
Tm_Tvibhav: this argumentation has been done before, there is no reason to do it again10:41
ikoniavibhav: it's clearly obviously you had not read the guide as it was full of dead URLs and missing information10:41
vibhavYOU ASKED ME , THAT , HAVE YOU USED THIS GUIDE?10:41
ikoniavibhav: you had clearly not read the guide10:41
vibhavI had10:41
ikoniavibhav: typing it caps won't help10:41
vibhavi KNOW10:41
vibhavikonia , You are not fit to be an op10:41
ikoniathen don't do it10:42
ikoniavibhav: one of my responsabilities it to make sure the users of the channel do not get bad advice10:42
Tm_T!appeal > vibhav10:42
ubottuvibhav, please see my private message10:42
ikoniavibhav: you are providing bad advice on a regular basis10:42
ikoniavibhav: hence why this loop has re-occured10:42
vibhavThat was not bad !10:42
ikoniavibhav: it was10:42
vibhavDo you know what is bad advice10:42
ikoniavibhav: it had incorrect information in it, and when I asked you about it, you had no idea of what it actually did10:42
vibhavthanks Tm_T10:43
ikoniavibhav: that means you're pushing advice which you don't know what it does to fix something10:43
Tm_Tvibhav: for the record, I agree ikonia on this10:43
vibhavWhy?10:43
Tm_Tthe very same argumentation ikonia has used10:43
Tm_Tand I repeat: this argumentation has been done before, there is no reason to do it again10:43
vibhav"Mistakes can be made by both sides"10:43
Tm_Tit won't lead to anywhere10:43
vibhavthis was yours10:44
Tm_Tvibhav: yes10:44
Tm_Tvibhav: but there's two options on proceeding on this, being not exclucive on each other10:44
vibhavikonia only knows how o critisize others10:45
Tm_Tvibhav: please stop now10:45
vibhavcriticize10:45
vibhavWhy Stop10:45
vibhavCant I defend for myself?10:45
ikoniavibhav: not at all, I often make mistakes and I'm corrected by others,10:45
ikoniavibhav: I also support other people, that's not critising them,10:46
Tm_T1) you wait 2 weeks before re-entering this channel and try discuss matter then. 2) you proceed on the steps described in appeal process10:46
vibhavNo you do not10:46
Tm_Tvibhav: stop, this is not useful, this is not defending yourself, this is only wasting time10:46
vibhavNo this is not10:46
vibhavOps think too much of themselves10:47
ikoniaI'll back out at this time and make sure the logs / comments are up to date10:47
Tm_Tvibhav: then proceed on appeal process, no amount of discussion here now will change this10:47
vibhavMake this clear - I was not giving bad advice , I was offering suggestion10:47
Tm_Tif he returns before two weeks, I will not give him time to try relaunching the conversation10:48
ikoniaI only said two weeks in the hope that he may consider what he does this time10:49
ikoniakeep unbanning him he just carrys on, if it's set a little longer, hey may consider it10:49
Tm_Tindeed10:49
Myrttimight want to do an ip host ban?10:52
Myrttisince his client identifies after joining the channels10:52
ikoniaI'm just looking at what happened with the cloak ban10:52
Myrttihis ident seems stable enough10:52
Myrttinothing happened with it10:52
ikoniaI saw him join as cloaked,10:53
Myrttiit just didn't kick in early enough10:53
MyrttiI didn't10:53
ikonia11:27 -!- vibhav [~vibhav___@unaffiliated/vibhav] has joined #ubuntu10:53
Myrtti[13:27] ~~~vibhav [~vibhav___@59.94.134.131] has joined #ubuntu10:53
Myrtti[13:27] ~~~vibhav [~vibhav___@unaffiliated/vibhav] has joined #ubuntu10:53
ikoniaahhh10:54
ikoniathe "has joined" bit is a bit confusing10:54
Myrttisame thing happened yesterday before the ban10:55
Myrtti[18:07] ~~~vibhav [~vibhav___@59.94.136.19] has joined #ubuntu10:55
Myrtti[18:07] ~~~vibhav [~vibhav___@unaffiliated/vibhav] has joined #ubuntu10:55
Tm_T"it's not ban evasion, it's autojoin" is explanation I cant take once, but not twice10:58
Tm_Tand if people knows they're banned, and they leave channel rightaway after noticing they have joined a channel they shouldn't, I have no problem10:59
ubottuszal called the ops in #ubuntu ()11:17
ikoniathat one again11:17
bazhangyikes11:18
bazhangtermaster is lars torben?11:22
ikoniaI did wonder that11:23
bazhangyeppers11:23
ikoniaare you certain ?11:23
bazhangthe false PM accusations11:23
ikoniawell, yes11:23
bazhangszal is honest, he is not11:23
ikoniaand the isp11:23
bazhangtrue11:23
bazhangsafe to unban the gateway I set ? the floodbot banned, and the user was klined (ie goodpoot)11:24
ikoniayup11:24
bazhangthanks11:24
Termasterwhy leave ?11:26
Termasterwhy banned ? ikonia11:26
ikoniaTermaster: did I, or did I not warn you to drop the topic 2 times ?11:27
Termasteryes so i said, HE should stop that11:27
Termasterand he went on11:27
ikoniaTermaster: he has not mentioned the pm after I aske dyou to stop it11:27
ikoniayou continued11:27
Termasterno he wrote:11:27
Termaster"!ubuntu-es"11:27
ikoniathat is nothing to do with a pm11:27
ikoniathat is advising a user to join the channel #ubuntu-es11:27
Termasteryes but NOBODY speak espagne11:28
Termasterat that time11:28
Termasteror spanish or what11:28
ikonia12:23 < Zankajo> #ubuntu-es11:28
ikoniahe was trying to join the channel11:28
ikoniasazl explained how to join #ubuntu-es11:28
Termasteryes and that do not belong into the channel11:28
ikoniayes it did11:28
Termasterbut it is a ubuntu channel11:28
ikoniaTermaster: look - enough now11:28
Termasterand why is he allowed to tell lies ?11:29
ikoniahe's not11:29
Termasterhe said, i pmed him and faked it11:29
ikoniaTermaster: if he did or not is hard to work out, hence why you where asked, and then told to drop the topic as no harm was done11:29
ikoniayou've persisted in trying to pick a fight with him, you're banned11:29
Termasteri do not like it to tell lies11:30
ikoniaok, that's great11:30
Termasterand i think that is in the law punishable11:30
ikoniabut it doesn't change what I've just said11:30
ikoniaI'm not going through this time wasting process with you11:30
Termasterokay but why have you to ban me ?11:30
Termasteryou can kick me and give me a second chance11:30
bazhangTermaster, he just told you.11:30
ikoniaTermaster: because I told you 2 times (they where your chances) to drop it, you kept going, you got banned11:31
Termasteryes the second time were the kickn11:31
Termasteri think this channel very often bann11:31
ikoniathat has no bearing on your situation11:31
Termasterokay and how long banned ?11:31
Termasterhe provocated it11:32
ikoniaTermaster: no - YOU did11:32
Termasterno11:32
Termasteri behaved good first11:32
ikoniayou caused the problem, so you are banned11:32
ikoniacome back in a weeks time11:32
Termasterno i saved the long and i will write to ubuntu team11:33
ikoniaok11:33
Termasterand to freenode to, i know the server owner11:33
Tm_Trthere's no excuse for bad behaviour11:33
ikoniain the mean time you will remain banned for a week at least11:33
ikoniaTermaster: ok, please write your letter, in the mean time please leave this hcannel11:33
ikoniaok, I am now very confident that was LARS11:34
bazhangit was, without question11:34
bazhangnow in +111:34
ikoniahe's gone11:35
bazhangwhoops he quit11:35
bazhang* [Tabledancer] (~Tabledanc@p579065D7.dip.t-dialin.net): Tabledancer11:35
ikoniaI'm sure he'll be back11:35
ikoniaahhh bang on time11:35
jussiSir ikonia, may I have the pleasure of you reading and replying to my PM? :D11:43
ikoniayou certainly may11:44
ikoniahad I seen it I would have responded quicker11:44
jussi:)11:44
bazhang* [thetwo] (~thetwo@p579065D7.dip.t-dialin.net): thetwo11:49
ikoniaughhh11:49
bazhanglets let him speak first11:50
bazhangwhoops11:50
ikonianah11:50
ikonialets not11:50
thetwohello, i think, its unfair that i am banned11:51
ikoniado you11:51
ikoniawhy is that11:51
thetwofirst i behaved very very good11:51
ikoniaok11:51
thetwoand then is stupid szal must told me:11:51
thetwo"!offtopic"11:51
ikoniathetwo: how about this11:51
ikoniathetwo: you didn't follow the rules11:51
ikoniathetwo: you got banned11:51
ikoniathetwo: you where told not to get in for a week11:51
thetwono moment i ask why he is not banned11:52
ikoniathetwo: so I suggest you leave now,11:52
ikoniathetwo: he didn't break the rules11:52
ikoniahe followed instructions11:52
thetwohe did a BIG libel11:52
thetwohe said things, and faked everything11:52
ikoniano11:52
thetwoand cant proove it11:52
ikoniatell you what, I've got a better idea11:52
thetwookay i will go11:52
thetwoand complain11:52
ikoniaI'm going to end this conversation and submit a complaint to your ISP11:53
ikoniaI have the logs stamped and verified by Freenode, so I'll log a complaint too11:53
thetwoyes and what will do that ?11:53
thetwoi did not any illegally11:53
ikoniaI'll let your ISP deal with that11:53
thetwoyes he will lought11:53
ikoniathetwo: you right your letter, and I'll right mine, lets end it there11:53
ikoniaI will now complain as they should be able to tie him up with Lars and the original complaint I made11:54
bazhangkubuntu channel people are ignorant?11:54
ikoniain what way ?11:54
bazhangdean just entered saying that ^11:54
ikoniaoh11:59
ikoniaI didn't even see dean in #kubuntu11:59
bazhang<Guest72146> some odd targeting of szal here12:02
ikoniajust chance I think12:03
bazhangsame exact issue with compiz, one that even the #compiz experts cannot re-create12:09
bazhang<saikat> can anyone help me to find any contact info of partnership on ubuntu?12:26
ikonia?12:27
ikonia(sorry not been following)12:27
bazhangjust that, nothing else12:27
jpdsbazhang: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/partnerships14:14
Picijpds: The person said that no one has gotten back to him a week after asking something to the contact info on that page.14:14
jpdsIs he still around?14:15
jpdsGuess not.14:15
PiciNo14:15
IdleOneross` in #u might turn into a problem16:35
* IdleOne steps away for a few16:35
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Piciikonia: encryption libraries are silly18:23
ikoniaoh ?18:23
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from xindzz`off)18:30
Picihandled.18:32
ikoniaso I see18:33
ikoniacan we setup a new rule, people who say "anyone?" get banned for 1 year on sight18:40
topyli:)18:44
ikoniayou seem receptive to that, so I'll up it to 2 years18:45
charlie-tca+118:55
ikoniait's getting momentum19:23
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rwwikonia: re: dawid: looks like they're on a dynamically-addressed cellphone network. The ban szal mentioned was #4191621:49
ikoniaI saw you delt with it, so went back to sleep21:50
rwwwfm21:50
ikoniaI also see 41928 and 4191521:50
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (Testtube1 appears to be flooding, but emergency mode is on)22:14
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (ryan__ appears to be flooding, but emergency mode is on)22:14
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16))23:29
ubottuszal called the ops in #ubuntu ()23:29
CoreyI turned +r off.23:30
CoreyOne user pasteflooding shouldn't cause that.23:30

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