=== Terminus is now known as Terminus_
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[11:10] <arscariosus> test
[11:12] <zakame> sup
[11:16] <arscariosus> hello :)
[11:19] <zakame> I wonder if this IRC window will show up on TV
[12:09] <pinoyskull-> is it done?
[13:43] <_guy_linux> hello. anyone tried comparing the performance ubuntu and variants on Gnome and KDE environments? Which do you think is better in terms of speed and memory usage?
[13:52] <arscariosus> _guy_linux, haven't tried it yet
[13:52] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: if you want a speedier ubuntu distro, you should try lubuntu
[13:53] <Knightlust> 'coz your question's like comparing apples and oranges
[13:53] <arscariosus> Knightlust, it's based on lxde right?
[13:53] <arscariosus> i mean it's using lxde as de
[13:53] <Knightlust> yes
[13:54] <arscariosus> is lxde 'lighter' than xfce?
[13:54] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: but if you're only looking for speed and performance... try ubuntu server
[13:54] <arscariosus> i tried using xfce and fedora 8 with xfce before
[13:54] <Knightlust> without gui
[13:54] <Knightlust> :P
[13:54] <arscariosus> :3
[13:54] <Knightlust> arscariosus: yeah, lxde's lighter than xfce
[13:55] <Knightlust> and with the transition to gnome3/gtk3, xfce will have to keep up
[13:56] <Knightlust> i'm also using lubuntu on one of my system, if you have an older hardware wherein the current release struggles to run on, i really suggest you take a look at lubuntu
[13:56] <arscariosus> Knightlust, any materials you could suggest so I could contribute to the community
[13:56] <arscariosus> ?
[13:56] <Knightlust> try translating projects to filipino
[13:56] <arscariosus> I just don't know where to start
[13:57] <Knightlust> wait, i'll go get the link
[13:58] <Knightlust> arscariosus: here's the knowledgebas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/
[13:58] <Knightlust> and here's the link to the templates: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+lang/fil
[13:59] <Knightlust> click on a project, and go translate. don't worry if you messed up
[13:59] <Knightlust> someone (most likely me) would review it anyway before submitting the finalized translations
[14:03] <arscariosus> Knightlust, thanks I was looking at that yesterday
[14:03] <_guy_linux> Thanks, Knightlust. I tried running kubuntu 11.04 via liveUSB. The KDE environment seems great but had problems with bluetooth connection and dsl. With Linux Mint, problem with bluetooth but internet's okay.
[14:03] <arscariosus> how about if I wante to learn more then get involved with development?
[14:03] <arscariosus> or maybe bugtracking, first, maybe?
[14:04] <arscariosus> _guy_linux, the problems I had with KDE is that most packages I use are Gnome packages. I don't want to install the extra dependencies hahaha
[14:04] <_guy_linux> Regardless of speed and desktop environment, it seems I am much safer with the LTS version. No problem with bluetooth and dsl with ubuntu 10.04.
[14:05] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: there's an existing bluetooth bug. been relying on bluetooth as well to manage my china phone via gammu/wammu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/system76/+bug/762964
[14:05] <lubotu2> Launchpad bug 762964 in System76 "Bluetooth doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.04" [Critical,Fix released]
[14:05] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: try sudo killall bluetoothd | sudo bluetoothd
[14:05] <Knightlust> that works for me
[14:06] <Knightlust> arscariosus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[14:06] <Knightlust> that'll start you developing/packaging/bug triaging
[14:07] <arscariosus> i'll check it out thanks
[14:08] <Knightlust> also check out the event calendar at http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/classroom/
[14:08] <_guy_linux> Are the problems in bluetooth/dsl internet connection (or other drivers) related to regular updating of kernel versions or also with the new releases of linux distro?
[14:08] <Knightlust> and join the meetings at http://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge/ try to feel your way around
[14:10] <_guy_linux> because I can connect to the internet with Mint 11, but having trouble with kubuntu 11.04.
[14:10] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: not always. linux is very complicated.
[14:10] <Knightlust> the internet issue may be with network-manager
[14:11] <Knightlust> as for the bluetooth bug, i believe it's the bluez and gnome-bluetooth package
[14:12] <Knightlust> _guy_linux: try pm'ing Jucato (/pm Jucato), he's our resident kubuntu guru
[14:12] <Knightlust> he's online on irc, but not on this channel
[14:13] <Knightlust> or is it /msg Jucato
[14:13] <Knightlust> hmm, my irc skills is degrading
[14:14] <_guy_linux> I hope these problems will be fixed in time for the next LTS. Thanks, Knightlust.
[14:16] <Knightlust> arscariosus: i suggest you also idle in #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu
[14:17] <Knightlust> and make sure you read the irc logs
[14:18] <Knightlust> also, google before asking questions - that's very important
[14:19] <Knightlust> ayt, gotta go. i've got work at 12MN
[14:19]  * epal prefers wm lang heheh..
[14:19] <epal> ung lxde i think gamit is openbox :D
[14:20] <epal> erm, ala na pala xD