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Guest70950hello03:44
jthanHello03:45
jthanHow's it going?03:47
Guest70950hey03:48
Guest70950I was looking for help getting a working flash player for xbuntu03:48
jthanAhh.03:52
jthanAlright03:52
jthanAre you familiar with the terminal?03:52
Guest70950no, srorry for the long reply times03:53
jthanThat's fine - I'm here for awhile.03:53
jthanDo you know how to use the Ubuntu software center?03:53
Guest70950not really, but Im just not sure what that is03:54
jthanIt should be under your applications menu.03:54
Guest70950its up03:54
jthank - type in "flashplayer-nonfree"03:54
jthanSee if any packages come up.03:54
Guest70950type into search box nothing cam up for nonfree03:55
Guest70950but for just flashplayer somthing came up03:55
jthanWhat is it called?03:55
Guest70950adobe flash plugin03:56
jthanThat's what you're looking for03:56
Guest70950thank you03:56
Guest70950I'm so used to windows that was a little traumatizing03:57
jthanSure - try it out and let me know if it works03:57
jthanOh we've all been there.03:57
Guest70950its taking a minute to download03:57
Guest70950Ive got to go check something will you be here in 7 minutes or less?03:58
Guest70950and how do I change my name from guest?03:59
jthanIn here?04:00
jthantype "/nick desirednick" without the quotes04:00
Guest70950hmm04:02
jthandidn't work?04:02
jthanwhat IRC client?04:02
Guest70950lol idk04:02
Guest70950That flash player works thanks again04:04
jthanGood stuff04:04
jthananytime04:04
Guest70950name thing still doesnt work, but I gotta go eat, bye bye04:05
jthanLater! Come back soon04:05
JonathanDMorning.09:35
rmg51morning JonathanD09:40
JonathanDhey hey09:40
rmg51o/09:40
rmg51\o09:40
rmg51\o/09:40
JonathanDhow are ya?09:54
JonathanD133.09:55
JonathanD7 to go.09:55
rmg51well, at least one of our bots is still working :-D09:59
JonathanDheh :p10:01
JonathanD3 more days til I shut up ;)10:01
rmg51until the next event10:02
rmg51but it still looks like andrew killed PennBot10:02
JonathanDclearly pennbot should take over this for me.10:03
JonathanDrmg51: don't worry. WE don't start meeting for the 2012 thing until July 30th.10:03
rmg51only 10 days and counting ;-)10:04
JonathanDyou figure out if you're joining us yet?10:15
rmg51not looking good10:21
rmg51Teddy will have to miss this one10:21
JonathanDwhere are you again?10:25
JonathanDwhere is teddy again, really10:25
JonathanDI think pleia2 would be very dissapointed if she didn't get to see teddy10:25
rmg51Teddy would be very disappointed if he didn't get to see Stitch :P10:29
rmg51breakfast time10:31
JonathanDrmg51: perhaps I could come get teddy.10:34
rmg51long detour for you11:01
rmg51you would be headed in the wrong direction11:02
JonathanDrmg51: not en-route11:03
JonathanDI was thinking maybe tomorrow11:03
rmg51I have no problem withnthat as long as you are willing to take care of the little guy11:10
rmg51and bring him back :-D11:11
rmg51time to head out to work11:20
rmg51back in a while11:20
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!11:26
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andrewrmg51: He'll be back12:09
DJAshnarBaconz!12:10
rmg51andrew: as good as before or just a shadow of himself? :-/12:39
andrewsame old PennBot12:44
andrewI was going to bring him right back up yesterday, but got a few freenode connection errors, so I gave it some time12:45
rmg51like I said yesterday, it's all JonathanDs fault :-D12:50
DJAshnarWarcraft is DOWN :(12:50
JonathanDrmg51: probably.14:37
jthanAny PHP-ers out there care to check something out for me?18:09
JonathanD6 spots left18:09
jthanI am trying to write an if else statement that evaluates a radio button input from an HTML form. Depending upon which radio button is selected changes the receipient of the email sent out at the end of the php file.18:10
JonathanDshould be simple18:12
JonathanDI'll take a look in a bit if you like18:12
JonathanDMy work desktops video card just fried, and I need to get that working first...18:12
JonathanDsource somewhere?18:13
JonathanDetherpad or something like it is good18:13
jthanOne second - i'll put it on paste218:14
jthanDon't laugh at my three if statements. It's just a last-ditch effort since my if else didn't work18:14
jthanJonathanD: I'm going to PM if it's alright because it contains email addresses18:14
JonathanD thats fine.18:14
jthanJonathanD++18:40
jthan@karma JonathanD18:40
PennBotjthan: Karma for "JonathanD" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.18:40
MutantTurkeyo/18:46
pleia2I'm doing a "working with other groups" session for community week over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat if anyone is interested in attending :) (I feature some pennsylvania projects! yay pa!)18:55
ChinnoDoggobble gobble19:08
JonathanDWe've aquired extra chairs.19:20
JonathanDI'm upping the max by 5.19:20
ChinnoDogNext there will be cusions on the floor19:20
ChinnoDogMaybe you can stack attendees on top of each other19:20
JonathanDtheres a kung fu place on the 3rd floor19:20
JonathanDmaybe we can borrow the mats19:21
ChinnoDogYou can hang them from the ceiling19:21
MutantTurkeygobble gobble19:22
ChinnoDogYou can open up a new site in SF with stereoscopic teleconference system19:22
JonathanDChinnoDog: that I'd like to do.19:22
ChinnoDogIts doable.19:22
JonathanDChinnoDog: but first we're going to get our own place here ;)19:23
ChinnoDogIn fact, you could let anyone open a site that had enough people and was willing ot acquire the equipment19:23
JonathanDI need you all to pitch in so I can buy this warehouse in bridgeport and turn it into a conference center, k?19:24
JonathanDit's $24,000 a year. Quite a steal.19:24
ChinnoDogSo, how much do we owe you then?19:24
JonathanDI have $7 so far.19:24
x_hochiBisjeKha19:24
ChinnoDogJonathanD: better start charging a cover fee for those geknics19:27
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: I can give you emotional support.19:27
MutantTurkeythats about it19:27
JonathanDChinnoDog: we've been making a small profit on the camping trips.19:27
JonathanDBut that comes out to about $67 saved up, so far. Still won't get very far :P19:28
ChinnoDogI would pay for a fractional warehouse if I could live there too19:29
JonathanDChinnoDog: it's not big enough for that.19:30
JonathanDTHe place is 3,000 sq foot.19:30
JonathanD$8 a foot19:30
rmg51JonathanD: you should talk to jedijf19:30
JonathanDbig enough for a bunch of people to live in, OR an event space ,but not really both.19:30
rmg51he has warehouse space19:31
JonathanDrmg51: this is very long term planning. but I plan on talking to a bunch of local groups and seeing what might be possible.19:31
ChinnoDogJonathanD: How many feet do you need to live?19:31
rmg51not sure if he can let it out19:31
rmg51also it's in NJ19:31
JonathanDor something.19:32
JonathanDrmg51: I'll talk to him. post fosscon. or at fosscon.19:32
JonathanDScott had this idea of holding events in "for rent" spaces.19:32
JonathanDin exchange we would sweep and clean on our way out.19:32
JonathanDand maybe paint.19:33
JonathanDstuff like that.19:33
ChinnoDogLets see.. lets think studio apt. 400ft^2 studios exist19:33
JonathanDit's not a bad idea.19:33
JonathanDChinnoDog: yes, you can live in 200sq foot19:33
JonathanDa single person.19:33
JonathanDWhen I was in high school I did floorplans of spaces like that all the time.19:33
JonathanDNo wait, no I didn't. I was listening to the teacher. Thats right.19:33
rmg51Giant in Willow Grove has conference space19:33
* JonathanD nods19:34
ChinnoDog200ft^2 per person?19:34
MutantTurkeyrmg51: which is nice19:34
JonathanDChinnoDog: minimum(ish). you can probably slice off a bit with each new person.19:34
JonathanDI did a design for these 300sq foot stackable pods suitable for 2 people.19:34
JonathanDbath, tiny kitchen with table/couch thing, swivelmount TV to move between bedspace and couchspace.19:35
ChinnoDogWell, if you divide into 200ft^2 units and you make being movable/collapsable a requirement, we are down to $133/mo per unit19:36
JonathanDChinnoDog: you need halls :P19:36
ChinnoDogSome people would pay that to have a room to sleep in near town19:36
ChinnoDogok, maybe $150 after the halls19:36
JonathanDChinnoDog: this would be fine if we could find, say a 6000 sq foot space, turn half of it into living, the other half into event space, and then use the living space to subsidize the rest ;)19:37
JonathanDThere are a lot of spaces like this along the river starting around norristown and heading into the city.19:37
JonathanDMy impression has been that norristown is the cheapest.19:37
ChinnoDogHow often do events happen? Just require all the live-ins to fold up their condos for events. They are the pepole attending!19:37
JonathanDrmg51: yes, I've been to that one.19:38
ChinnoDogHow big are shipping crates, like the kind they use on ships? Everyone could live in one of those and you could install a hoist and stack them during events19:39
rmg51free for registered non-profits19:39
JonathanDrmg51: basekamp is one.19:39
JonathanDif we can operate under their umbrella for events.19:39
rmg51or PACS19:39
JonathanDor PACS19:39
ChinnoDogooh. You could stck them and install stairs and leave them like that19:40
JonathanDrmg51: whats the way to contact them.19:40
ChinnoDogI would live in a shipping crate19:40
JonathanDChinnoDog: put floors on top. Hold event on top of containers.19:40
ChinnoDogeven better!19:40
JonathanDensure events include tap dancing at 2am.19:40
ChinnoDogI could live in the shipping create underworld19:40
ChinnoDogWould probably look steampunk-ish to be living in metal crates without natural light19:42
JonathanDrun some pipes in them.19:43
JonathanDvertically19:43
ChinnoDogJonathanD: let me know when my room is ready19:44
JonathanDhah :P19:44
rmg51President at PACSnet.org19:45
JonathanDhttp://www.giantfoodstores.com/shareddev/sharedcontent/OurStores/CCCS/comcenter.cfm?CC=CC&tmpstore=CC_427.html is the thing, yes?19:45
PennBotTitle: GIANT® Food Stores (at www.giantfoodstores.com)19:45
rmg51that's the one19:46
JonathanDlooks like there are multiple of them.19:46
rmg51only 3 in Pa19:48
JonathanDok.19:48
JonathanDrmg51: I went once for SFD19:49
rmg51so you know what it's like19:50
JonathanDyup19:50
JonathanDentry area, couple classrooms, large classroom.19:50
JonathanDas I recall19:50
rmg51the big room holds at least 12019:50
JonathanDshame theres no convenient place to get food nearby.19:51
JonathanDrmg51: kidding, of course. Does giant do catering?19:51
rmg51says so19:51
JonathanDI'd imagine they have food trays at least.19:51
JonathanDI remember there being a prepared food place inside.19:52
JonathanDwith a cafe thing.19:52
rmg51or just go downstairs for a sandwhich19:52
JonathanDrmg51: and theres train...19:52
JonathanDother than the max size, this looks pretty good.19:53
JonathanDwe might find 120 awful tight for fosscon next year.19:53
rmg51hit the wrong button19:53
rmg51they are fussy about holding to room limits19:54
rmg51no standing room19:54
rmg51fill the chairs done19:55
rmg51time for me to sign off and pack up19:55
rmg51I'll be back on somewere19:56
rmg51wrong button again19:56
rmg51I'll be back on somewhere around 6:3019:56
MutantTurkeyJonathanD: Yeah, 120 would be a squeeze20:19
MutantTurkeyyou guys have considered maybe a school/college to host it?20:20
JonathanDYes.20:20
JonathanDThere will be a "thing" on the 30th in #fosscon where we'll discuss 2012 location possibilities.20:20
jthanI love things!20:20
JonathanDall are invited.20:21
MutantTurkeyjthan: wait you are a mac guy right?20:21
jthanKinda, yeah.20:21
jthanwhy?20:21
JonathanDOFF WITH HIS HEAD>20:21
MutantTurkeyI am having an awful time with it.20:21
jthan"it?"20:21
MutantTurkeyi am finding it very difficult to build software20:21
jthanobj-c son!20:21
MutantTurkeyand install software that is important20:21
jthansuch as?20:21
jthanYou aren't being very specific :-p20:22
MutantTurkeyI was wanting geany, the editor20:22
MutantTurkeybut ports is telling me i need Xcode 3.120:22
jthanvim++20:22
jthanWhat do you edit with Geany?20:22
MutantTurkeyjthan: yes, but it won't work for what i need it to do20:22
MutantTurkeyvim++20:22
MutantTurkeyjthan: external editor for firefox20:22
jthanmeh..20:23
MutantTurkeyalso, i wanted to build my own browser i wrote, it depends on gtk2 and webkitgtk... but i can't seem to get that either20:23
jthanmacports20:23
MutantTurkeyjthan: 1000+ line wiki pages are a pain in the ass.20:23
jthanor darwinports20:23
MutantTurkeyjthan: it's being an ass about it.20:23
MutantTurkeyany luck with fink?20:23
jthannever used that one20:23
MutantTurkeymacports can't do anything because i don't have xcode 3.120:23
jthanxcode is a free download from Apple20:24
jthanYou have to apply to be a dev I think20:24
MutantTurkeyi don't think so...20:24
jthanbut then it's free20:24
jthanand you might like it20:24
MutantTurkeyyeah thats not free.20:24
jthanIt is free20:24
MutantTurkeythat is fucking retarded.20:24
jthan*shrug*20:24
* MutantTurkey throws change in jar20:24
jthanDo you want it or not?20:24
MutantTurkeyI don't want to have to apply to use software?20:24
jthanWhy not? it's not like you're signing your life away20:24
jthanjust signing up as a dev20:24
* MutantTurkey stomps off back into his gnu cave20:25
jthanOOoh20:25
jthanGNU hurd anyone?20:25
MutantTurkeyjthan: 2012 baby20:25
MutantTurkeywell, they keep pushing back for years..20:25
MutantTurkeyits pretty much duke nukum of the FOSS world20:25
MutantTurkeyjthan: also being stuck on a PPC based computer is really annoying :[20:29
jthanWho does that?20:29
jthanintel++20:29
MutantTurkeyagreed.20:29
MutantTurkeybut i don't own this baby...20:29
jthanWho's is it?20:30
MutantTurkeydrexel's20:30
jthansteal?20:30
jthank don't steal it20:30
MutantTurkeyit would take a few strong men to carry this thinbg out...20:30
jthanoooh it's one of /them20:31
jthan /20:31
MutantTurkeythey are bulky20:31
MutantTurkeyany laptop recommendations? still havent found one :[20:57
jthanPrice range?21:01
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