[03:44] hello [03:45] Hello [03:47] How's it going? [03:48] hey [03:48] I was looking for help getting a working flash player for xbuntu [03:52] Ahh. [03:52] Alright [03:52] Are you familiar with the terminal? [03:53] no, srorry for the long reply times [03:53] That's fine - I'm here for awhile. [03:53] Do you know how to use the Ubuntu software center? [03:54] not really, but Im just not sure what that is [03:54] It should be under your applications menu. [03:54] its up [03:54] k - type in "flashplayer-nonfree" [03:54] See if any packages come up. [03:55] type into search box nothing cam up for nonfree [03:55] but for just flashplayer somthing came up [03:55] What is it called? [03:56] adobe flash plugin [03:56] That's what you're looking for [03:56] thank you [03:57] I'm so used to windows that was a little traumatizing [03:57] Sure - try it out and let me know if it works [03:57] Oh we've all been there. [03:57] its taking a minute to download [03:58] Ive got to go check something will you be here in 7 minutes or less? [03:59] and how do I change my name from guest? [04:00] In here? [04:00] type "/nick desirednick" without the quotes [04:02] hmm [04:02] didn't work? [04:02] what IRC client? [04:02] lol idk [04:04] That flash player works thanks again [04:04] Good stuff [04:04] anytime [04:05] name thing still doesnt work, but I gotta go eat, bye bye [04:05] Later! Come back soon [09:35] Morning. [09:40] morning JonathanD [09:40] hey hey [09:40] o/ [09:40] \o [09:40] \o/ [09:54] how are ya? [09:55] 133. [09:55] 7 to go. [09:59] well, at least one of our bots is still working :-D [10:01] heh :p [10:01] 3 more days til I shut up ;) [10:02] until the next event [10:02] but it still looks like andrew killed PennBot [10:03] clearly pennbot should take over this for me. [10:03] rmg51: don't worry. WE don't start meeting for the 2012 thing until July 30th. [10:04] only 10 days and counting ;-) [10:15] you figure out if you're joining us yet? [10:21] not looking good [10:21] Teddy will have to miss this one [10:25] where are you again? [10:25] where is teddy again, really [10:25] I think pleia2 would be very dissapointed if she didn't get to see teddy [10:29] Teddy would be very disappointed if he didn't get to see Stitch :P [10:31] breakfast time [10:34] rmg51: perhaps I could come get teddy. [11:01] long detour for you [11:02] you would be headed in the wrong direction [11:03] rmg51: not en-route [11:03] I was thinking maybe tomorrow [11:10] I have no problem withnthat as long as you are willing to take care of the little guy [11:11] and bring him back :-D [11:20] time to head out to work [11:20] back in a while [11:26] Good bacon to all! === SamuraiAlba is now known as DJAshnar [12:09] rmg51: He'll be back [12:10] Baconz! [12:39] andrew: as good as before or just a shadow of himself? :-/ [12:44] same old PennBot [12:45] I was going to bring him right back up yesterday, but got a few freenode connection errors, so I gave it some time [12:50] like I said yesterday, it's all JonathanDs fault :-D [12:50] Warcraft is DOWN :( [14:37] rmg51: probably. [18:09] Any PHP-ers out there care to check something out for me? [18:09] 6 spots left [18:10] I am trying to write an if else statement that evaluates a radio button input from an HTML form. Depending upon which radio button is selected changes the receipient of the email sent out at the end of the php file. [18:12] should be simple [18:12] I'll take a look in a bit if you like [18:12] My work desktops video card just fried, and I need to get that working first... [18:13] source somewhere? [18:13] etherpad or something like it is good [18:14] One second - i'll put it on paste2 [18:14] Don't laugh at my three if statements. It's just a last-ditch effort since my if else didn't work [18:14] JonathanD: I'm going to PM if it's alright because it contains email addresses [18:14] thats fine. [18:40] JonathanD++ [18:40] @karma JonathanD [18:40] jthan: Karma for "JonathanD" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. [18:46] o/ [18:55] I'm doing a "working with other groups" session for community week over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat if anyone is interested in attending :) (I feature some pennsylvania projects! yay pa!) [19:08] gobble gobble [19:20] We've aquired extra chairs. [19:20] I'm upping the max by 5. [19:20] Next there will be cusions on the floor [19:20] Maybe you can stack attendees on top of each other [19:20] theres a kung fu place on the 3rd floor [19:21] maybe we can borrow the mats [19:21] You can hang them from the ceiling [19:22] gobble gobble [19:22] You can open up a new site in SF with stereoscopic teleconference system [19:22] ChinnoDog: that I'd like to do. [19:22] Its doable. [19:23] ChinnoDog: but first we're going to get our own place here ;) [19:23] In fact, you could let anyone open a site that had enough people and was willing ot acquire the equipment [19:24] I need you all to pitch in so I can buy this warehouse in bridgeport and turn it into a conference center, k? [19:24] it's $24,000 a year. Quite a steal. [19:24] So, how much do we owe you then? [19:24] I have $7 so far. [19:24] ha [19:27] JonathanD: better start charging a cover fee for those geknics [19:27] JonathanD: I can give you emotional support. [19:27] thats about it [19:27] ChinnoDog: we've been making a small profit on the camping trips. [19:28] But that comes out to about $67 saved up, so far. Still won't get very far :P [19:29] I would pay for a fractional warehouse if I could live there too [19:30] ChinnoDog: it's not big enough for that. [19:30] THe place is 3,000 sq foot. [19:30] $8 a foot [19:30] JonathanD: you should talk to jedijf [19:30] big enough for a bunch of people to live in, OR an event space ,but not really both. [19:31] he has warehouse space [19:31] rmg51: this is very long term planning. but I plan on talking to a bunch of local groups and seeing what might be possible. [19:31] JonathanD: How many feet do you need to live? [19:31] not sure if he can let it out [19:31] also it's in NJ [19:32] or something. [19:32] rmg51: I'll talk to him. post fosscon. or at fosscon. [19:32] Scott had this idea of holding events in "for rent" spaces. [19:32] in exchange we would sweep and clean on our way out. [19:33] and maybe paint. [19:33] stuff like that. [19:33] Lets see.. lets think studio apt. 400ft^2 studios exist [19:33] it's not a bad idea. [19:33] ChinnoDog: yes, you can live in 200sq foot [19:33] a single person. [19:33] When I was in high school I did floorplans of spaces like that all the time. [19:33] No wait, no I didn't. I was listening to the teacher. Thats right. [19:33] Giant in Willow Grove has conference space [19:34] * JonathanD nods [19:34] 200ft^2 per person? [19:34] rmg51: which is nice [19:34] ChinnoDog: minimum(ish). you can probably slice off a bit with each new person. [19:34] I did a design for these 300sq foot stackable pods suitable for 2 people. [19:35] bath, tiny kitchen with table/couch thing, swivelmount TV to move between bedspace and couchspace. [19:36] Well, if you divide into 200ft^2 units and you make being movable/collapsable a requirement, we are down to $133/mo per unit [19:36] ChinnoDog: you need halls :P [19:36] Some people would pay that to have a room to sleep in near town [19:36] ok, maybe $150 after the halls [19:37] ChinnoDog: this would be fine if we could find, say a 6000 sq foot space, turn half of it into living, the other half into event space, and then use the living space to subsidize the rest ;) [19:37] There are a lot of spaces like this along the river starting around norristown and heading into the city. [19:37] My impression has been that norristown is the cheapest. [19:37] How often do events happen? Just require all the live-ins to fold up their condos for events. They are the pepole attending! [19:38] rmg51: yes, I've been to that one. [19:39] How big are shipping crates, like the kind they use on ships? Everyone could live in one of those and you could install a hoist and stack them during events [19:39] free for registered non-profits [19:39] rmg51: basekamp is one. [19:39] if we can operate under their umbrella for events. [19:39] or PACS [19:39] or PACS [19:40] ooh. You could stck them and install stairs and leave them like that [19:40] rmg51: whats the way to contact them. [19:40] I would live in a shipping crate [19:40] ChinnoDog: put floors on top. Hold event on top of containers. [19:40] even better! [19:40] ensure events include tap dancing at 2am. [19:40] I could live in the shipping create underworld [19:42] Would probably look steampunk-ish to be living in metal crates without natural light [19:43] run some pipes in them. [19:43] vertically [19:44] JonathanD: let me know when my room is ready [19:44] hah :P [19:45] President at PACSnet.org [19:45] http://www.giantfoodstores.com/shareddev/sharedcontent/OurStores/CCCS/comcenter.cfm?CC=CC&tmpstore=CC_427.html is the thing, yes? [19:45] Title: GIANT® Food Stores (at www.giantfoodstores.com) [19:46] that's the one [19:46] looks like there are multiple of them. [19:48] only 3 in Pa [19:48] ok. [19:49] rmg51: I went once for SFD [19:50] so you know what it's like [19:50] yup [19:50] entry area, couple classrooms, large classroom. [19:50] as I recall [19:50] the big room holds at least 120 [19:51] shame theres no convenient place to get food nearby. [19:51] rmg51: kidding, of course. Does giant do catering? [19:51] says so [19:51] I'd imagine they have food trays at least. [19:52] I remember there being a prepared food place inside. [19:52] with a cafe thing. [19:52] or just go downstairs for a sandwhich [19:52] rmg51: and theres train... [19:53] other than the max size, this looks pretty good. [19:53] we might find 120 awful tight for fosscon next year. [19:53] hit the wrong button [19:54] they are fussy about holding to room limits [19:54] no standing room [19:55] fill the chairs done [19:55] time for me to sign off and pack up [19:56] I'll be back on somewere [19:56] wrong button again [19:56] I'll be back on somewhere around 6:30 [20:19] JonathanD: Yeah, 120 would be a squeeze [20:20] you guys have considered maybe a school/college to host it? [20:20] Yes. [20:20] There will be a "thing" on the 30th in #fosscon where we'll discuss 2012 location possibilities. [20:20] I love things! [20:21] all are invited. [20:21] jthan: wait you are a mac guy right? [20:21] Kinda, yeah. [20:21] why? [20:21] OFF WITH HIS HEAD> [20:21] I am having an awful time with it. [20:21] "it?" [20:21] i am finding it very difficult to build software [20:21] obj-c son! [20:21] and install software that is important [20:21] such as? [20:22] You aren't being very specific :-p [20:22] I was wanting geany, the editor [20:22] but ports is telling me i need Xcode 3.1 [20:22] vim++ [20:22] What do you edit with Geany? [20:22] jthan: yes, but it won't work for what i need it to do [20:22] vim++ [20:22] jthan: external editor for firefox [20:23] meh.. [20:23] also, i wanted to build my own browser i wrote, it depends on gtk2 and webkitgtk... but i can't seem to get that either [20:23] macports [20:23] jthan: 1000+ line wiki pages are a pain in the ass. [20:23] or darwinports [20:23] jthan: it's being an ass about it. [20:23] any luck with fink? [20:23] never used that one [20:23] macports can't do anything because i don't have xcode 3.1 [20:24] xcode is a free download from Apple [20:24] You have to apply to be a dev I think [20:24] i don't think so... [20:24] but then it's free [20:24] and you might like it [20:24] yeah thats not free. [20:24] It is free [20:24] that is fucking retarded. [20:24] *shrug* [20:24] * MutantTurkey throws change in jar [20:24] Do you want it or not? [20:24] I don't want to have to apply to use software? [20:24] Why not? it's not like you're signing your life away [20:24] just signing up as a dev [20:25] * MutantTurkey stomps off back into his gnu cave [20:25] OOoh [20:25] GNU hurd anyone? [20:25] jthan: 2012 baby [20:25] well, they keep pushing back for years.. [20:25] its pretty much duke nukum of the FOSS world [20:29] jthan: also being stuck on a PPC based computer is really annoying :[ [20:29] Who does that? [20:29] intel++ [20:29] agreed. [20:29] but i don't own this baby... [20:30] Who's is it? [20:30] drexel's [20:30] steal? [20:30] k don't steal it [20:30] it would take a few strong men to carry this thinbg out... [20:31] oooh it's one of /them [20:31] / [20:31] they are bulky [20:57] any laptop recommendations? still havent found one :[ [21:01] Price range? === rmg511 is now known as rmg51