[17:35] <pleia2> thanks AlanBell
[20:53] <pleia2> so on our blueprint I volunteered to contact jono and get the condorcet poll set up and otherwise run the leadership election
[20:53] <pleia2> but since I'm a candidate this is probably not a good idea
[20:53] <maco> where's the list of nominees? i'll email him
[20:53] <pleia2> can we get someone else to volunteer for this?
[20:54] <pleia2> maco: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/LeadershipElectionProcess/2011
[20:54] <pleia2> what we need is the list from ~ubuntu-women in launchpad
[20:54] <maco> and no, nigel, i'm not applying for yet another board
[20:54] <maco> oh
[20:54] <pleia2> [lyz] Contact Jono in July when ready for election to handle condorcet voting: TODO
[20:54] <pleia2> ^^ my action item from UDS
[20:57] <maco> so do i just give him the list of all the names?
[20:57] <maco> im a little confused
[20:57] <maco> i cant see everyone's email addresses...
[20:57] <pleia2> to do condorcet voting we need a list of all email addresses from LP to add them to the poll, only canonical folks have been successful in getting such lists from launchpad
[20:57] <pleia2> so jono said he'd help us out when election time came
[20:58] <maco> ah ok
[20:58] <pleia2> either by setting up the poll or getting us a list of public addresses and contacting the rest to see if they want to participate
[20:58] <pleia2> us mere mortals can only email a handful of people per day via launchpad, so last time akgraner spent something like a week hitting her quota for contact every day to reach everyone
[20:58] <maco> so i just tell him "hey get hte names from the thing and make a poll with these candidates"?
[20:59] <pleia2> s/names/email addresses
[20:59] <maco> doh
[20:59] <maco> erm yes
[20:59] <maco> ik
[20:59] <maco> ok
[21:00] <pleia2> the election isn't until August 9th, but we need the list now because we require the list from 30 days prior to the election
[21:00] <pleia2> so don't make the poll until then, just get the list :)
[21:00] <maco> oh i see
[21:00] <maco> dan
[21:00] <maco> *dang
[21:02]  * maco sending correction email
[21:02] <pleia2> sorry :)
[21:02] <maco> doned
[21:39]  * MarkDude wanted to see if anyone will be attending OSCON and can help with table?
[21:52] <AlanBell>  ÆV/24
[21:52] <AlanBell> wonder how I typed that
[21:53] <maco> altgr+shift+z
[21:53] <maco> at least thats how i get Æ
[21:54] <AlanBell> that does < for me
[21:54] <rww> it does Z for me. yay Windows!
[21:54] <maco> GB keyboards are weird. you need 3 keys to get < ???
[21:54] <maco> how do brits EVER do html?!
[21:55] <rww> maco: umm, no you don't
[21:55] <maco> or math?
[21:55] <AlanBell> no, I have <> on keycaps
[21:55] <maco> oh, just have two ways to get to them?
[21:55] <AlanBell> so it seems
[21:55] <maco> interesting
[21:55] <Pendulum> maco: you mean you don't want to be on every board Ubuntu has all at once?
[21:56] <maco> http://www.twam.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/us_international.png this is the layout i use
[21:56] <maco> Pendulum: oh yeah just want to spend all my time on dmb, rmb, uw, and cc meetings uh huh...   i'm not lyz ;)
[21:57] <maco> oh wait forgot tb
[21:57] <Pendulum> :)
[21:57] <maco> then thatd be all the boards i can remember
[22:00] <Pendulum> maco: you forgot loco council
[22:00] <maco> hm if ones with council in the name count then there's also kubuntu-council
[22:00] <maco> and i think edubuntu has a council too
[22:01] <AlanBell> http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/Screenshot-Keyboard%20Layout%20%22United%20Kingdom%22.png
[22:01] <AlanBell> Æ altgr+shift+a
[22:03] <maco> WOAH
[22:03] <maco> you have a key between Z and shift!
[22:03] <maco> weeeeeeeird
[22:04] <AlanBell> you don't O.o
[22:04] <maco> nope
[22:04] <maco> pipe is where your return key gets too-tall ;)
[22:05] <maco> what is that character when you shift-backtick?
[22:05] <AlanBell> ¬
[22:05] <maco> what's it for?
[22:06] <maco> and does this mean i have to stop explaining backtick as "un-shift tilde"?
[22:06] <AlanBell> no idea, I have a vauge recollection that it is a mathematical symbol for logical not, or perhaps something from set theory
[22:06] <maco> oooh yeah...that's common enough to warrant *not* being third-level?
[22:07] <AlanBell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation
[22:07] <maco> woah
[22:08] <AlanBell> I was right first time :)
[22:08] <maco> are the third levels on v/b left and right double quotes?
[22:08] <maco> instead of just having straight quotes?
[22:08] <AlanBell> “”
[22:08] <AlanBell> yes, never knew they were there
[22:09] <maco> oh how odd
[22:09] <maco> they put Þ on P
[22:09] <AlanBell> straight quotes are on shift 2, where they belong
[22:09] <maco> i know it looks like it, but i think ours makes more sense semantically, since it's thorn...it's for a th sound...it goes with T
[22:10] <maco> i am now sad that wynn is not on keyboards though
[22:10] <maco> i re-learned about wynn when i showed Pendulum my 11th century calligraphy of the Lords Prayer
[22:11] <maco> at first i wondered why i put thorn into the text when writing it since the things i see online use a w, then i realised no, thats not a thorn, the strokes are different, and i looked up the anglo saxon alphabet, and sure enough, w used to be written as Ƿ
[22:11] <AlanBell> you have Á as a single chord which is nice, I have to press altgr+; then A
[22:12] <AlanBell> it does need an interrobang key
[22:12] <AlanBell> anyhow, late here, night maco and all o/
[22:12] <maco> bye