[05:46] o/ morning everyone [05:57] morning nuvolari [06:04] hi nuvolari, sakhi [06:36] morning [07:06] morning superfly nuvolari and others [07:06] Maaz, coffee on [07:06] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [07:06] hi Kilos [07:10] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:10] Maaz, ty [07:10] Enjoy Kilos [07:11] Maaz, google irc for mobile [07:11] Kilos: "jmIrc - Java mobile IRC-client (J2ME)" http://jmirc.sourceforge.net/ :: "WLIrc wireless IRC Client for mobile phones (j2ME)" http://wirelessirc.sourceforge.net/ :: "k-IRC (Mobile IRC Client)" http://kirc.armondavanes.com/ :: "MobileTech: IRC On Your Mobile" http://tarek.typepad.com/mobtech/2004/12/irc_on_your_mob.html :: ".IRC for Windows Mobile - Free Windows Mobile software downloads ..." http://download.cnet.com/IRC/3000-2150_4-1 [07:13] would you suggest the first link for an old nokia superfly [07:13] i tried jedirc but dont get a mobile version [07:13] Kilos: can your phone run mxit? [07:14] yessir [07:14] OK, then it can run JedIRC [07:14] http://jedirc.wen9.net/ [07:15] ty superfly [07:28] bbnn [07:44] môre oom Kilos [07:45] more nuvolari het jy gewen met pa se win pc [07:50] Kilos: nee oom :-/ noggie [07:51] gister antivirus opgesit [07:51] nou kry ek BSOD elke keer net na hy klaar geboot het [07:51] ek wil ubuntu opsit maar kon nog nie die 3g modem kry om te werk nie [07:51] BSOD? [07:52] nuwe modem? [07:54] dit was n pes met ian se vodafone modem ook [07:56] wil jy ubuntu saam met win op sit of win verwyder [07:57] dan is dit makliker om jou foon as n modem te gebruik en modeswitch te installeer en dan die modem te gebruik [07:58] nm sien fone maklik en sonder modeswitch sal die nodem nie werk nie [08:00] * Kilos would suggest to the ubuntu dev guys to put modeswitch into the cd not as an installable app [08:01] app/package [08:02] * Kilos waits to be shot down [08:04] i am sure the struggle to get a 3g modem to work is losing us lots of future ubuntu users [08:09] nuvolari, ^^ [08:41] Maaz, define BSOD [08:41] Kilos: BSOD /B?S?O?D/ Very common abbreviation for {Blue Screen of Death}. Both spoken and written. [08:41] eish [08:50] hello Kilos [08:51] morning kbmonkey [08:52] Maaz, kbmonkey ++ for lightening maiatodays work load [08:52] Kilos: What? [08:52] lol [08:52] he he [08:52] Maaz, coffee on [08:52] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:55] Maaz, coffee please [08:55] Kilos: Done [08:56] Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos! [08:57] Maaz, thanks man [08:57] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [08:57] Maaz, thanks [08:57] kbmonkey: No problem [08:57] Maaz, fortune [08:57] kbmonkey: If you laid all of our laws end to end, there would be no end. -- Mark Twain [08:58] :D [08:58] lol [09:04] Kilos: ek stem saam mense sukkel met die 3g modems [09:05] ja, my 3G also had to hack to work in Lucid :/ [09:05] baie mense kry maar net routers wat hulle 3g vir hulle dial [09:05] modeswitch and all that goeters [09:05] I know tp-link works very well [09:06] ja. dis n groot pyn. en sonder konneksie kan jy niks doen nie [09:06] dont forget the majority of peeps have one pc at home for emails and saving pics etc and facebook of course [09:07] and very little knowledge other than buying a cd and installing [09:07] rather large download :O http://www.tp-link.com/en/support/gpl.aspx?type=7 [09:07] * scar[w] wonders what's inside [09:09] yet setting up the nm to use a cellfone as a modem is very easy [09:12] * nuvolari heard something about some hero-character's b-day *cough* [09:13] nuvolari, expand [09:14] elaborate [09:14] sigh [09:14] vertel meer [09:17] lo sakhi afrodeity [09:17] lo afrodeity sakhi [09:27] hi guys [09:27] hi pph [09:27] anybody here running a webserver? [09:30] must be someone that is. stick around [09:30] lol [09:32] the guys are just very busy so it requires patience but someone will help you soonish [09:33] but what is the problem you are having pph [09:33] im in no rush. think ive figured my problem out anyway [09:33] wanted to know of their ftp setups with virtual hosts [09:33] its better to always say what your prob is [09:33] pph: don't use FTP [09:34] lol its a webserver [09:34] hello pph [09:34] hey [09:34] pph: don't use FTP [09:34] sftp? [09:34] yes [09:34] k ;) [09:35] im using vsftpd [09:40] pph: http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp [09:41] the original blog post is no longer available, but that's a good run down of what it used to say [09:43] thx ill have a look now [09:48] good morning [09:49] superfly: nice link [09:49] lo inetpro [09:49] Maaz: ftp [09:49] inetpro, The File Transfer Protocol (FTP) predates the common use (and possibly even the invention) of concepts such as Network Address Translation (NAT) and firewalls. FTP Must Die!!! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie [09:49] hi inetpro, thanks [09:49] ah, that's the one I'm thinking of... FTP Must Die [09:50] superfly: perhaps we should add yours to Maaz? [09:50] short and sweet [09:50] add it, sure, but leave that one in there [09:51] I find many people struggling to read anything longer than a tweet these days [09:51] lol [09:51] Kilos: heh [09:53] Maaz: ftp is also Time to Dump FTP http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp See also FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [09:53] inetpro: One learns a new thing every day [09:54] Maaz: ftp [09:54] inetpro, The File Transfer Protocol (FTP) predates the common use (and possibly even the invention) of concepts such as Network Address Translation (NAT) and firewalls. FTP Must Die!!! http://wooledge.org/mywiki/FtpMustDie [09:54] Maaz: ftp [09:54] inetpro: ftp is Time to Dump FTP http://www.43folders.com/2008/07/14/dump-ftp See also FTP must Die!! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie [10:11] morning drubin confluency [10:12] Morning [10:31] morning Kilos [10:38] Kilos: die vlieg oom :P [10:38] of dis wat skype sê :? [10:42] weird [10:48] queery: weird weird, or weird? [10:48] Maaz: tell kbmonkey tint2 ftw! :D [10:48] nuvolari: Okay, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode [10:49] weird [10:49] my timeout was weird [10:59] see ya all tonight [11:19] hahahahahahahaha [11:19] holy crap [11:19] I just saw the power supplies in our new router [11:19] it has 4 x 4.1 kW PSU's [11:19] so 16.4 kilowatts worth of power supplies [11:20] hi I'm new user in linux .so i have aproblem ,I have wimax ZTE ax226 ,wimax usb dongle modem. i have no driever ,Now how to connect it.? [11:22] Symmetria: yikes! [11:23] hehe inetpro still not as bad as our CRS-1s though [11:23] the CRS-1s run 2 x 14.2 kilowatt 3phase PSU's in each of them [11:23] Symmetria: why? [11:23] and while thats redundant, its still 28.2 kilowatt worth of power feeds for one router [11:24] inet heh, its a *BIG* router [11:24] I mean, very very very big :) [11:24] heh, CRS-1 is the same height as a 42U rack, and weighs just on 750 kilograms [11:24] but why would it need that much power? [11:24] inetpro, heh, to drive the ASICs for high speed traffic processing [11:24] and the line cards [11:25] even our smaller routers (the 7600s) are very power heavy [11:25] wow, that's quite something [11:26] heh inetpro this is one of our smaller routers: [11:26] system power redundancy mode = redundant [11:26] system power total = 5771.64 Watts (137.42 Amps @ 42V) [11:26] system power used = 3662.40 Watts (87.20 Amps @ 42V) [11:26] system power available = 2109.24 Watts (50.22 Amps @ 42V) [11:26] green peace and eskom hate me [11:26] well it's just a router!? [11:26] I actually calculated that in total power draw, the TENET network uses almost 100 kW now if not more [11:26] inetpro heh, its a very very very fast router [11:26] eish [11:27] heh look here: [11:27] 1 7600-ES20-10G3CXL 340.20 8.10 340.20 8.10 on on [11:27] thats a single 2 port 10G line card [11:27] with onboard processing of packets on the line card [11:27] eating 340 watts just for the one card [11:27] 8 76-ES+T-4TG 405.72 9.66 405.72 9.66 on on [11:27] thats a 4 port 10G line card, another 405 watts [11:28] worse still, this is a SINGLE port card, that drives a 10G SDH circuit: [11:28] 9 7600-SIP-600 341.88 8.14 341.88 8.14 on on [11:28] (heh that line card I just pasted, is a single circuit board worth 800 grand) [11:28] I.E you are rather careful you dont drop it :P [11:49] lol I just convinced some poor dude to go rack my new amsterdam router for me [11:49] by the time he is done he is never gonna speak to me again [11:50] or he will be sending me medical bills for back strain [11:58] eish im so slow [11:59] Many many happy returns superfly [11:59] Thanks Kilos [11:59] hope every years just gets better and better [11:59] Ta [12:00] Maaz, coffee on [12:00] * Maaz washes some mugs [12:01] Maaz, coffee for all [12:01] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [12:01] Maaz, and cake [12:01] Kilos: Excuse me? [12:01] grrr [12:02] Maaz, and cake [12:02] Here is a large cake for the birthday boy. [12:03] blow out the candles superfly [12:03] * superfly blows hard [12:03] we all clap and sing happy birthday to the Fly [12:04] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [12:04] nuvolari, dankie [12:05] Maaz, thanks man [12:05] Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) [12:15] later [12:32] superfly: happy birthday [12:34] heh osx lion just appeared for sale in the apple store [13:02] Happy Birthday superfly :D I believie you are having a great day :) [13:03] Thanks nuvolari [14:04] pph, do you use our mailing lists [14:04] and you MxG ? [14:05] and scar[w] ? [14:06] * scar[w] reads the topic [14:07] i was enquiring if you guys know about the LPI course coming up [14:08] kbmonkey and nuvolari gonna give classes here as soon as thety got it all set up [14:08] the manual is available at [14:08] Maaz, LPI.link [14:08] Kilos: lpi.link is http://groups.google.com/group/linux-studies [14:09] just over 4m i think [14:09] wrong one but you sign up there maybe [14:10] nuvolari, ping [14:10] whats the link to the lpi manual nuvolari [14:10] i lost it [14:11] kilos: mailing lists? no don't think i am, I use LUG lists and tend to stay away from official ubuntu lists [14:11] ah yes, I remember Monday night there were some people talking about LPI [14:11] ok are you interested in doing an LPI course [14:11] Kilos: I get the feeling kbmonkey is going to be the grand master:P [14:12] Maaz: lpi.manual is http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual [14:12] nuvolari: Got it [14:12] ty nuvolari [14:12] plesier oom [14:13] kilos: have done LPIC-3, maybe if there's one for LPI-303 (security)? [14:14] MxG, speak to kbmonkey or nuvolari about what it all entails [14:14] im just advertising for them [14:15] let me just look in the manual if i see 303 stuff [14:15] cool :) [14:17] its a big manual but there is a chpater on security [14:17] no lots more [14:18] near 30 pages of security [14:20] MxG, and that link above is for the latest manual [14:21] interisting, I'll have to take a look at it later [14:22] bbl [14:42] MxG: they're doing 101, I think [14:48] superfly: thanks, have already got LPIC-3 though so looking for 302 or 303 materials :) [14:52] Hi all [14:55] hi nlsthzn [14:56] :/ lol trying to get ops on a channel and I can't remember how :p [14:57] =bu2 [14:57] er [14:57] sorry [15:31] :? [15:31] I broke screen [15:31] :'( [15:36] that sucks [15:58] superfly, sorry to worry you. can you tell me how i get jedirc to use freenode please [15:58] Kilos, cool name... not heard of that one yet [15:59] Kilos: I think you need to create a new connection, using chat.freenode.net [15:59] what? nlsthzn [15:59] oh ok chat.freenode.net [15:59] in place of za.zanet.org.za [15:59] jedi(rc) [15:59] :) cool name [16:00] lol [16:02] and do i need to put in an irc server port nuber superfly [16:02] or just leave 6667 [16:02] chat.freenode.net:6667 [16:02] 6667 is fine [16:03] yay ty nlsthzn [16:03] here in the uae the other one 8001 doesn't want to work but 6667 works fine [16:04] yooo hooo [16:04] but there no tab key onna fone [16:05] nope [16:05] how you nlsthzn [16:05] that's why i don't like irc with mine [16:05] Oh... getting the flu but I will live, and you uncle? [16:05] yeah and you have to msg and open a page then type [16:06] what a schlep [16:06] i be kiff ty nlsthzn [16:06] PC best for PC stuff :p [16:07] yeah but now i can try it on the nokia 9300i [16:07] dunno if it will work being stuck on gprs [16:07] that at least has a qwerty keyboard [16:08] Cheers [16:12] but at least now i can have contact from anywhere even if eskom cuts the power while the battery is full [16:12] hehe [16:14] mannnn [16:14] I wish I'd invested like, 100k into apple shares [16:14] in november 2008 [16:14] :P the stock would be worth enough now to buy a nice new car [16:14] a really nice new car [16:23] :) [16:47] Maaz: announce Happy Birthday Mr superfly [16:47] Hear ye, hear ye! Happy Birthday Mr superfly [16:48] superfly, dude... happy birthday... [16:48] :) [17:23] bah [17:23] lol [17:23] nice nick [17:23] dankie oom [17:23] *kug* [17:23] hier is die apie ook [17:23] evening there :) [17:23] kbmonkey: By the way, nuvolari on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey tint2 ftw! :D" 6 hours, 34 minutes and 47 seconds ago [17:23] who's nuvolari_ ? [17:24] nuvolari_, jy stout [17:24] winsux_constantl, jy ook [17:24] hehe [17:24] Kilos: oom, waai medisyne het oom gese moet ek install vir windose? [17:25] hoe ver is jy seun [17:25] die keyboard se sed werk nie [17:25] kan die ding boot darem [17:25] x, y, sed [17:25] is dit al [17:25] o vrek, z :p [17:25] lol [17:25] die v sukkel ook [17:26] en 1 [17:26] is dit na die virus episode of is hulle miskien beitjie vuil [17:26] moet elke keer fn, numlock, 1. fn, numlock af [17:26] nee, dis die lappy wat bietjie oud is oom [17:27] Kilos: oom het gese daar is 'n sekere antivirus [17:27] ek dink keypads is nie te duur om te vervang nie [17:27] ja avast [17:27] avast gee my 'n BSOD na boot [17:27] jy vat die vry een [17:27] nee man [17:27] dis hy oom [17:27] ek jeuk vir ubuntu [17:27] dan het jy n ander een by wat baklei daarmee [17:27] net die modem aan die gang kry [17:28] gaan jy winsuck weggooi [17:28] verseker [17:28] ok nou moet jy mooi luister [17:28] kbmonkey: did you see mah supa openbox screenshot [17:28] ek love tint2 [17:29] ek luister oom [17:29] no where is your screenshot? [17:29] jy kan ubuntu installeer en jou foon gebruik om te konnekteer and usb modeswitch te kry [17:30] op + kbmonkey [17:30] meeste selfone werk smart met nm [17:30] goegel plus [17:30] G+! [17:30] nee just got home now that was some workout! *pants* [17:31] Kilos: oom, ek kan oor die netwerk ook try [17:31] kbmonkey: ok cool [17:31] van die lappy? [17:31] kbmonkey: I discovered tint2 and it's simply awesome [17:31] Kilos: ja oom, my werk laptop [17:31] mooi man [17:32] * winsux_constantl tries to update MTN online. [17:32] maybe the app won't kill itself [17:32] wow mooi screens! unlucky zoom google hulle nie in nie :( one thing i dont like about G+ [17:32] * winsux_constantl en windows is nie pelle nie [17:33] kbmonkey: ye, that's something I hope they will work on [17:33] it's a definite need [17:33] ek gebruik nou imgur of ompldr.org [17:34] ek het op ian se pc usb-modeswitch e ek dink gnome modem manager of iets met my foon gedoen toe sien sy pc sy modem [17:34] Kilos: sal dit werk van die livecd af ook? [17:35] die foon sal maar ek weet nie van die modem nie [17:36] livecd se nm werk grand [17:36] ja behoort op die live ook te werk [17:37] wie's die winsux_constantl dude? [17:37] onbeskof [17:38] jy kan tot konnekteer voor jy se install en dit laat update terwyl jy installeer [17:38] lol [17:38] ja but I need to get the modem working first :P [17:39] no man [17:39] I don't have any windows CD to turn back to [17:39] reg of weg [17:39] use your cellphone as a modem [17:39] just to get connected [17:39] and updated [17:40] have you got a data cable nuvolari_ [17:40] then nm even tells you what fone yopu got [17:41] ja oom, no problems connecting with my phone [17:41] android FTW :D [17:42] kbmonkey: try https://picasaweb.google.com/johanmynhardt/July202011#5631459193143249746 [17:42] then install ubuntu [17:42] then connect fone [17:42] picasaweb still allows you to zoom [17:43] KILL winsucks and partition nicely [17:43] need to back up [17:43] bah :-/ [17:43] to where? [17:43] to my external drive oom [17:44] lol does the winsucks pc see your external [17:44] ?? [17:44] when I boot from the livecd :D [17:44] my boets win7 couldnt see mine [17:44] it's ext4-formatted [17:44] you just gonna copy files etc [17:45] not official backup [17:45] ye, rsync [17:45] just the important files [17:45] lol all the windows cant see ext4 [17:45] well move it [17:45] well, one that my dad really wants :P weather logs since '96 [17:46] if you gonna kill windows why ask what antivirus to get [17:46] wow [17:47] ask him can he see where the global warming is [17:47] we freezing here [18:00] nuvolari_, you going with natty? [18:01] or maverick? [18:02] Kilos: natty oom [18:02] meh. my pa gaan nou eers skype [18:02] lol [18:03] gaan jy clean install en winsucks heel dooi? [18:06] hehe is pa nie bang nie? [18:16] ja oom [18:16] alles of niks [18:16] mooi [18:17] he he mooi so nuvolari_ :) [18:17] hoe groot is die hardeskyf nuv [18:17] solank die internet en office goeters werk [18:19] anotherone bites the dust [18:19] w00t [18:22] dink dis 40Gb oom Kilos [18:23] of 30Gb [18:24] hmm. screen killed all the apps running in that session too [18:24] weird [18:27]