[00:06] <bjsnider_> those of you who want the latest nvidia blob it's in the x-updates ppa
[00:06] <bjsnider_> latest stable blob anyway
[00:15] <BUGabundo> I want to go back to nouvuea
[00:16] <BUGabundo> is it safe ?
[00:17] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[00:47] <bjsnider_> bugabundo's unbroken streak of misspelling "nouveau" is intact
[01:19] <dr_willis> Hmm. Got funny vertical black bars in the top panel.. but at least im able to get into the unity desktop. :)
[11:40] <saamm> can i use utouch to enable multitouch on my touchpad?
[12:35] <sagaci> hi, just doing some translations, two packages, gcc-4.5 and gcc-4.6 are in oneiric, are both package sets being used or will 4.5 be deprecated?
[12:38] <hellyeah> hey
[12:38] <hellyeah> i am using ubuuntu 11.10
[12:38] <hellyeah> when i try to install asome packages i took that error http://dpaste.com/573209/
[12:38] <hellyeah> what can i do
[12:40] <nyuszika7h> hellyeah: are you using sudo?
[12:40] <hellyeah> yeah
[12:40] <hellyeah> sudo -s
[12:42] <hellyeah> what shuold i do
[12:43] <Pici> hellyeah: How about telling us what packages you're trying to install.
[12:43] <hellyeah> actually i try to upgrade my system
[12:43] <hellyeah> after upgrading the system i tok that error
[12:44] <hellyeah> sorry,
[12:44] <hellyeah> some compiz package i dont know which one gives that error
[15:25] <snadg3> something horribly broke in the last update
[15:26] <snadg3> i suppose more specific corrupted desktop and things crashing with fglrx
[15:26] <snadg3> black boxes everywhere
[15:27] <snadg3> i suppose i can try radeon but just a bit freaked out by it :p
[15:40] <jvgeli> using natty with Kernel 3.0.0-5 from Oneiric. I am not able to use fglrx, any thoughts?
[15:44] <Pici> jvgeli: another user was just saying that a few minutes ago.
[15:47] <jvgeli> Pici: how do I backread?
[15:47] <Pici> jvgeli: They aren't here anymore
[15:47] <Pici> Thats all they said anyway.
[15:47] <jvgeli> Pici: was there a resolution? ah I see.
[15:48] <Pici> No :/
[17:23] <mauri_> how can I know which are the packages do not update with apt-get?
[17:25] <yofel> mauri_: can you rephrase that please?
[17:26] <patdk-wk> update doesn't update any packages
[17:26] <patdk-wk> upgrade does some, dist-upgrade does all
[17:28] <mauri_> yofel: I've run apt-get upgrade and at the end I get 4 packages not updated but i dont know which they are
[17:28] <patdk-wk> normally it lists them when it starts
[17:28] <yofel> running  dist-upgrade and aborting it will tell you
[17:29] <patdk-wk> it's cause you have to use dist-upgrade to install the new dependancies for those
[17:29] <mauri_> patdk-wk: what should I do in order to clean the environment?
[17:30] <patdk-wk> heh?
[17:30] <patdk-wk> bucket of water and towel?
[17:31] <yofel> lol
[17:31] <mauri_> patdk-wk: ok it doesnt matter, i've have a problem whith the english and i'm not and linux expert.... so it is not necessary to highlight that
[17:31] <patdk-wk> well, I have no idea what your asking
[17:31] <elros> you mean remove old packages?
[17:33] <mauri_> elros: when I updated my kubuntu 11.04 to 11.10 the procedure at certain moment crasched. the log said to send the bug to the developper
[17:35] <mauri_> elros: so i start again the procedure end it seem finished
[17:35] <mauri_> elros: but im not sure that all was fine. There is a way to verufy that?
[17:35] <yofel> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:35] <yofel> if that runs without error you should be ~fine~
[17:36] <mauri_> yofel: ok I try
[17:37] <mauri_> yofel: it should be fine  thanks
[18:13] <sweeze> anyone trying to use gnome-shell+empathy on oneiric?  it seems to drop all my incoming ims  (see launchpad 811291 -- anyone else seeing this?)
[18:19] <cplanken> Hi I posted a solution to a memory leak bug on launchpad but was advised in the report to post it on irc - is that ok I can post a link to that report here?
[18:20] <yofel> uh, what bug number?
[18:21] <cplanken> 812975 unity
[18:21] <yofel> lp 812975
[18:21] <cplanken> thats the one
[18:22] <yofel> cplanken: #ayatana is the channel you want to ask in
[18:23] <cplanken> thank you I will that!
[18:52] <jo-erlend> are applications toolbars moved to the panel now? http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-07-19-150134_1366x768_scrot-1.png
[18:53] <Ian_Corne> brrr
[18:53] <jo-erlend> oh, I get it.
[19:05] <BigWhale> Greetings!
[19:06] <BigWhale> Am I missing something while doing this:
[19:06] <BigWhale> bigwhale@thefish:~$ setsid unity
[19:06] <BigWhale> bigwhale@thefish:~$ execvp: No such file or directory
[19:16] <BigWhale> Gah... dependencies are broken...
[20:02] <jakemp> I'm getting a starting lag in my touchpad on my Lenovo T420, but not the eraser mouse.
[21:22] <fosburg> I installed Ubuntu linux--Ubuntu software had "free cad" which I installed.  When trying to run application a message comes up No OpenGL   This system does not support OpenGL
[21:22] <fosburg> any suggestions
[21:27] <nit-wit> fosburg, with a quick google search I found this.  http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=FAQ#OpenGL_drivers_are_not_inslalled.2C_or_not_working_properly
[21:29] <fosburg> Thanks for the help
[21:32] <nit-wit> fosburg, no problem I hope it actuallyis.;)
[21:33] <BUGabundo> evening friends of the relay protocol
[21:35] <jo-erlend> 'lo BUGabundo :)
[21:36] <BUGabundo> hey hey jo
[21:36] <jo-erlend> I was wondering if I should give 11.10 a look soon. I tried it in a VM, but that doesn't give the right impression. Thought maybe I'd install it on a couple of memorysticks and boot real machines. What's your impression; is it usable yet?
[21:37] <BUGabundo> you shoould
[21:38] <BUGabundo> I always advice ppl to test earlier
[21:38] <BUGabundo> so they detect hw regressions and applicatinal problems
[21:39] <jo-erlend> yes. Imagine how much easier that would be if we could boot from raw disk images..
[21:40] <jo-erlend> didn't I read something about that?
[21:41] <BUGabundo> we can
[21:41] <BUGabundo> I do
[21:41] <BUGabundo> I've hacked grub2 to boot from ISOs
[21:41] <jo-erlend> how?
[21:41] <BUGabundo> sec
[21:41] <jo-erlend> isos? You mean for live images? But that's not the same.
[21:41] <BUGabundo> jo-erlend: http://p.bugabundo.net/tag/grub2
[21:42] <jo-erlend> or do you mean that would work for harddisk images as well?
[21:42] <BUGabundo> now im lost
[21:43] <BUGabundo> what do you mean?
[21:43] <BUGabundo> you mean installed? as in dual boot?
[21:43] <jo-erlend> right. Dual boot from an image.
[21:44] <BUGabundo> well, isos *are* images
[21:44] <BUGabundo> I'm not getting what you want, sorry
[21:45] <jo-erlend> dd if=/dev/sda of=imagefile. Now I want to copy that image to another pc, add it to grub and boot from it as if it was a normal disk.
[21:47] <jo-erlend> or do you mean that there is nothing special about booting iso images, that grub2 can boot from any raw image?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> ahh
[21:47] <BUGabundo> I guess you can!
[21:47] <BUGabundo> but you will need to images
[21:47] <BUGabundo> one for /boot and one for the rest
[21:47] <BUGabundo> so you can mount the boot and then the userspace
[21:47] <BUGabundo> but that's WAY above my pay grade
[21:48] <BUGabundo> took me several hours to get mine just perfect
[21:48] <BUGabundo> try #grub
[21:48] <jo-erlend> :)
[21:51] <nit-wit> this might help. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[21:52] <jo-erlend> yes, that also looks interesting. What is the difference between booting from a harddisk image and a cd image?
[21:53] <BUGabundo> not much
[21:55] <jo-erlend> I could just rearrange my lvm. It's just that I'm lazy :)
[21:56] <jo-erlend> «It is impossible to "boot" an ISO from disk unless that image specifically supports that» <-- grub topic :(
[22:08] <BUGabundo> NAS> umount -f /volume1/@optware &
[22:08] <BUGabundo> NAS> umount: can't forcibly umount /opt: Invalid argument
[22:08] <BUGabundo> .../me scratches head
[22:12] <coz_> so how are things going on the nvidia side of things with 11.10?
[22:14] <BUGabundo> boots and works
[22:17] <coz_> BUGabundo,  cool
[22:36] <Adys> why is xdiagnose a hard dep on *everything*?
[22:36] <Adys> it's pulling half of ubuntu-desktop into kubuntu
[22:37] <nit-wit> Adys, do you want one or the other desktop?
[22:38] <Adys> im using kubuntu. xdamage is pulling *tons* of gtk libs into kubuntu
[22:38] <Adys> er
[22:38] <Adys> xdiagnose
[22:38] <nit-wit> Adys, do you want just kubuntu?
[22:38] <Adys> yes
[22:38] <nit-wit> hold on
[22:39] <Adys> my point is xdiagnose cant be removed
[22:39] <Adys> http://dpaste.com/573635/
[22:39] <nit-wit> look under playing around left panel.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[22:39] <Adys> do you even know what im talking about?
[22:40] <nit-wit> somewhat, it seems you're going about it the hard way.
[22:40] <Adys> have you updated?
[22:40] <rww> nit-wit: kubuntu-desktop depends on xdiagnose. xdiagnose depends on a bunch of gtk silliness. Hence Adys's question.
[22:40] <Adys> yeah
[22:41] <nit-wit> you installed one or the other desktop then the other now you just want kubuktu correct.
[22:41] <nit-wit> *kubuntu
[22:41] <rww> nit-wit: No, not correct.
[22:41] <Adys> i think the problem is that xdiagnose depends on a gtk apport app
[22:41]  * rww takes a look at the package lists
[22:41] <Adys> rww: actually, the bind with kubuntu is deeper than that
[22:41] <Adys> i dont have kubuntu-desktop installed
[22:42] <nit-wit> rww, thnks for clearing that up but I got that from the paste.
[22:44] <Adys> dependency of x11-common
[22:44] <Adys> and depends on apport
[22:44] <Adys> and gir1.2-gtk-3.0
[22:44] <Adys> so yeah theres the problem
[22:45] <Adys> the x11-common dependency should be dropped
[23:01] <jbicha> Adys: have you filed a bug report?
[23:01] <Adys> not yet
[23:01] <Adys> feel free to
[23:52] <maco> hey there oneiric users. any of you on kubuntu?
[23:52] <maco> and if so, is kwin working or crashing for you?
[23:53] <BUGabundo> maco:  I know a few are
[23:53] <maco> that doesnt....really answer the actual questio
[23:54] <BUGabundo> yofel_
[23:54] <maco> which is whether kwin actually runs
[23:54] <BUGabundo> and a few others, trying to see if they are online
[23:54] <BUGabundo> please hang a sec
[23:54] <maco> because on today's live cd i get a black bg, a X cursor, and a crash notification
[23:54] <BUGabundo> I get those every day
[23:54] <BUGabundo> on lubuntu
[23:54] <BUGabundo> but then again, yofel never reboots
[23:55] <yofel> can't say I get any crashes, but if that's the daily I would need to check for updates
[23:55] <yofel> true ^^
[23:55] <daniel__> hello i just updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and ihave no clue how to get my wireless card to work again ive been looking at this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and still no clue i know that i have Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[23:56] <yofel> although I can't see how any of the recent kde uploads would cause kwin to crash
[23:56] <yofel> maco: got a backtrace?
[23:56] <maco> working on it
[23:56] <maco> um....installin debug symbols failed
[23:56] <yofel> *sigh* - someone debug that debug installer -.-
[23:57] <maco> and i cant copy from the vm to paste on the host
[23:57] <yofel> make a screenshot of the VM
[23:58] <maco> you're smart
[23:58] <nit-wit> daniel__, try #ubuntu
[23:59] <jbicha> maco: KDE works here, but I'm not running true kubuntu
[23:59] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[23:59] <jbicha> maco: are you able to get to kdm at least? and what graphics card do you have?