| pitti | chrisccoulson: tbird growth> ah, -Os vs. -O3, I figure? | 04:02 |
|---|---|---|
| pitti | dobey: apport architecture> yes, that would be me | 04:02 |
| pitti | jasoncwarner_: I fully trust bryceh and RAOF about the driver decisions :) but that seems sensible indeed | 04:03 |
| pitti | Good morning everyone | 04:03 |
| jbicha | how do I run dh_install --list-missing if I'm using bzr bd with ~ubuntu-desktop branches? | 04:17 |
| jbicha | just a moment, rebooting | 04:21 |
| pitti | bryceh: still here? | 04:31 |
| pitti | jbicha: wb | 04:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: you can do bzr bd-do, which puts you in a full source tree | 04:32 |
| pitti | that's the usual mode of development in debian/ only branches | 04:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: you can hack there, build the package, run dh_install, and what not | 04:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: if you exit that subshell with 0, it'll copy debian/ back into the original bzr tree, so you can commit the changes | 04:32 |
| pitti | if you exit 1, it won't do that | 04:32 |
| pitti | bryceh: just followed up to https://code.launchpad.net/~bryce/apport/omit_empty/+merge/68616 | 04:33 |
| jbicha | ok but immediately after doing bzr bd-do, I can't run dh_install | 04:33 |
| pitti | no, you have to debuild -b first | 04:34 |
| jbicha | pitti: cool, thanks | 04:35 |
| * jbicha adds pitti as a search provider to his webbrowser | 04:36 | |
| pitti | lol | 04:37 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:11 |
| RAOF | Good morning didrocks! | 05:18 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF! | 05:18 |
| RAOF | How be you? Is compiz crazily slow for your-nvidia-using self also? | 05:20 |
| jbicha | I'm having trouble running sudoku 3.1.3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/648808/ | 05:21 |
| jbicha | I believe it should be running gtk3 for one | 05:21 |
| didrocks | RAOF: compiz isn't only subtily slow there, not like crazy. However, my nvidia driver isn't running with latest kernel | 05:21 |
| didrocks | RAOF: you can use gtk-w-d if you experience slowliness issue, that should fix it | 05:22 |
| didrocks | RAOF: in the decor plugin in ccsm, replace compiz-decorator by gtk-window-decorator | 05:22 |
| RAOF | Ah. I'm not experiencing a slowdown, I was just prodded by DBO this morning and wondered how widespread it is :) | 05:23 |
| RAOF | Clearly the answer is “well known” :) | 05:23 |
| DBO | didrocks, did you see my email? | 05:23 |
| DBO | to the dx team list | 05:23 |
| didrocks | DBO: not at that inbox right now :) | 05:24 |
| didrocks | looking | 05:24 |
| DBO | also | 05:24 |
| DBO | for the next week | 05:24 |
| DBO | all compiz related complaints come to me | 05:24 |
| DBO | Sam is AFK | 05:24 |
| DBO | and if you see him | 05:24 |
| DBO | tell him to go away | 05:24 |
| didrocks | DBO: got it | 05:25 |
| DBO | I have been using compiz 0.9.5 + uwd + 8px shadows for about 8 hours no | 05:26 |
| DBO | no slowdown | 05:26 |
| didrocks | DBO: ok, let's try to make that upload, looking for property to change | 05:27 |
| bryceh | pitti, ok sounds good; pushed updated branch | 05:30 |
| pitti | bryceh: ah, great | 05:30 |
| * didrocks reboots on a kernel supporting the nvidia bin driver to test the params change | 05:34 | |
| didrocks | DBO: it seems a little bit snappier, indeed, but can't really quantify as I didn't get the utterly slowdown there | 05:42 |
| didrocks | still, will push the new theme, thanks! | 05:42 |
| DBO | didrocks, good, that will buy me enough time to find the root problem | 05:42 |
| didrocks | DBO: indeed :) | 05:42 |
| DBO | what do you think of alt-tab? :) | 05:42 |
| DBO | I am pretty happy with it myself... | 05:43 |
| RAOF | DBO: Where do I get that alt-tab? | 05:43 |
| didrocks | DBO: it's gorgious there, especially with the latest fix :) | 05:43 |
| DBO | RAOF, press ctrl+tab | 05:43 |
| didrocks | RAOF: when there will be an official unity release | 05:43 |
| DBO | oh he don't run trunk eh? | 05:43 |
| didrocks | DBO: it's not in Oneiric right now, waiting for a release | 05:43 |
| RAOF | DBO: No dice. | 05:43 |
| didrocks | DBO: no, he's sane :-) | 05:43 |
| DBO | RAOF, run trunk | 05:43 |
| DBO | its how we role in DX | 05:44 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 05:44 |
| DBO | I don't always test my code | 05:44 |
| DBO | but when I do, it's in production | 05:44 |
| didrocks | DBO: TBH, I think that dx takes this joke a little too much seriously ;-) | 05:44 |
| * didrocks runs away | 05:44 | |
| DBO | didrocks, did you see! | 05:44 |
| DBO | alt-tab comes with tests! | 05:44 |
| DBO | TESTS! | 05:44 |
| DBO | DBO WROTE TESTS! | 05:45 |
| didrocks | DBO: yeah, I was thinking of a wrong copy and paste first :-) | 05:45 |
| didrocks | DBO: and I took again a cup of coffee when I saw that | 05:45 |
| didrocks | but it was real! | 05:45 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 05:45 |
| DBO | wewt! | 05:45 |
| didrocks | DBO: so, we won't have a good upgrade story before the gsettings backend is here | 05:46 |
| didrocks | DBO: right now, conflict against static switcher | 05:46 |
| didrocks | + changing for alt + tab | 05:46 |
| didrocks | will do it | 05:46 |
| DBO | did you see the gsettings branch? | 05:46 |
| didrocks | yeah, but I would hope someone in dx will do the review | 05:46 |
| didrocks | that won't help with upgrade though | 05:47 |
| didrocks | we will still have the same issue, unfortunatly, until compiz can handle deps on startup itself | 05:47 |
| didrocks | DBO: a classy way if it was the case to handle upgrade would to create artifical deps + conflicts removal to add a new plugin to the list | 05:47 |
| didrocks | (new theme uploaded btw) | 05:48 |
| DBO | didrocks, sexy sexy | 05:48 |
| didrocks | RAOF: btw, any idea why my nvidia driver doesn't work with -5? I guess it's a dmks issue, maybe it hasn't run? | 05:49 |
| didrocks | (I have to reboot with -3) | 05:49 |
| RAOF | didrocks: I've got no particular idea. Could well be that dkms hasn't run for that kernel, although that would be odd. | 05:50 |
| didrocks | RAOF: not that important for now TBH, will ping again if it's still the case at alpha3 with a new kernel | 05:51 |
| desrt | DBO, RAOF: GOOD MORNING | 05:58 |
| DBO | desrt, GOOD MORNING SIR | 05:58 |
| desrt | didrocks: and hello to you too :) | 05:58 |
| didrocks | hey desrt, already awake? :-) | 05:58 |
| RAOF | desrt: AND A FINE MORNING TO YOUR GENTLEMANLY SELF. | 05:58 |
| desrt | DBO: sorry. my shift key got stuck after typing your nicks =) | 05:58 |
| desrt | didrocks: rain drops keep falling on my head | 05:59 |
| DBO | desrt, CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR TALKING WITH CLASS | 05:59 |
| RAOF | Real gentlement boom their salutations! | 05:59 |
| desrt | DBO: i appreciate your efforts towards not capitalising my nick | 05:59 |
| DBO | desrt, TAB COMPLETE IGNORES MY CAPS LOCK | 05:59 |
| didrocks | desrt: don't afraid with some water falls in my appartment! :) | 05:59 |
| * didrocks knows that desrt will soon cross the 5 meters separating us, his power plug is in the main room :-) | 06:00 | |
| DBO | desrt and didrocks are sharing a room? | 06:01 |
| DBO | these office romances always lead to disaster | 06:01 |
| desrt | DBO: much worse when there is also a third sharing | 06:02 |
| desrt | DBO: ...and she leaves the apartment during the day | 06:02 |
| didrocks | DBO: that's even worse, he's at home and making everyone happy with some gtk/glib patch! :) | 06:02 |
| desrt | didrocks: from my sample size of 3 day, i have scientifically determined that it always rains in lyon | 06:03 |
| desrt | i now have an explanation for your productivity | 06:03 |
| didrocks | desrt: ahah, because I can never go outside? :) | 06:03 |
| desrt | seems to be the case | 06:04 |
| DBO | desrt, I believe your finding conflict with a well known fact that rain makes people sleepy | 06:04 |
| didrocks | desrt: it warned you this week had a shitty weather, and you told me it's the sane in Paris :) | 06:04 |
| DBO | desrt, I contest therefor that didrocks is always asleep | 06:04 |
| didrocks | DBO: there is coffee and tea for that :) | 06:04 |
| desrt | didrocks: when i said that paris was also shitty, i wasn't talking about the weather... :) | 06:04 |
| didrocks | same* | 06:05 |
| * desrt hopes steve isn't around | 06:05 | |
| didrocks | seems not :-) | 06:05 |
| desrt | DBO: deeper? | 06:05 |
| DBO | desrt, Im always happy to go deeper | 06:05 |
| RAOF | Bah. Is someone fixing it so that when I accidentally click on the volume slider of indicator-sound it doesn't (a) crash unity-panel-service and (b) stop alt-tab working for 30 seconds? | 06:14 |
| didrocks | RAOF: oh? I know there is a bug on the volume slider indicator for not working, but it just freezes everything for 3-5s here | 06:16 |
| didrocks | not crashing u-p-s | 06:16 |
| TheMuso | Its IDO/GTK3 related afaik. | 06:17 |
| RAOF | didrocks: Well, it does that too. It's rather curious, though. Compiz updates nicely - applications paint, holding down <super> causes the numbers to fade in on the launcher - but doesn't respond in any other way. | 06:18 |
| didrocks | RAOF: I have no paint at all there, but then, when it's painting back, it's working :) | 06:18 |
| didrocks | weird, let's see if fixing the first issue will help for yours | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | I'd have thought the current crashy state of indicators was a priority... :) | 06:19 |
| RAOF | Ah, software :) | 06:19 |
| bryceh | pitti, any idea what causes this warning? http://paste.ubuntu.com/648829/ | 06:20 |
| bryceh | pitti, I thought it was the X apport hook but am seeing it for other apport hooks too | 06:20 |
| bryceh | wait, no | 06:23 |
| bryceh | hrm. | 06:23 |
| pitti | bryceh: interesting, haven't seen that yet | 06:28 |
| pitti | didrocks: does the windows+number shortcuts still work for you? they broke for me with the new compiz | 06:28 |
| pitti | bryceh: ah, can reproduce | 06:29 |
| bryceh | pitti, it seems to happen prior to entering add_info() | 06:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: no, I reported the bug already | 06:29 |
| pitti | bryceh: also happens with another dialog | 06:30 |
| pitti | bryceh: thanks, looking | 06:30 |
| bryceh | pitti, if I do ubuntu-bug compiz, it shows up when compiz' first dialog pops up, prior to the x hook firing off | 06:30 |
| bryceh | however, I tried totem, firefox, linux, gedit and those all work with no warnings printed | 06:30 |
| pitti | also happens with apport-bug foo | 06:31 |
| pitti | strange, though; GtkMessageDialog _does_ want a GtkMessageType | 06:33 |
| pitti | bryceh: ah, got it | 06:36 |
| pitti | bryceh: fixed in trunk | 06:36 |
| bryceh | pitti, great | 06:36 |
| * bryceh posts xdiagnose 0.9 with fixed up apport hooks for X and compiz | 06:37 | |
| TheMuso | Speaking of apport, I just remembered I wanted to extend the alsa hook a little. | 06:52 |
| * TheMuso gets a branch ready, since what he wnats to do is rather trivial. | 06:53 | |
| didrocks | mvo: good morning :) | 06:54 |
| pitti | TheMuso: feel free to just commit it | 06:54 |
| TheMuso | pitti: To apport trunk? I didn't even know I had access to that. | 06:55 |
| pitti | TheMuso: lp:~ubuntu-dev/apport/apport-symptoms | 06:55 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Its in apport proper afaik. | 06:55 |
| pitti | TheMuso: oh, I thought you meant the audio symptom | 06:55 |
| pitti | TheMuso: you mean the one in hookutils? | 06:55 |
| TheMuso | pitti: No, the hook that dumps card info etc. | 06:55 |
| pitti | right, that needs a branch | 06:55 |
| TheMuso | yeshookutils | 06:55 |
| TheMuso | pitti: Right, I did so and made a merge proposal. | 06:55 |
| pitti | I have an 1 h appointment now, will look at it later | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | whoops ran lp-propose-merge incorrectly, fixing. | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | No hurry. | 06:56 |
| TheMuso | Its just something I have wanted to do for a while, to help with audio debugging. | 06:56 |
| mvo | good morning didrocks | 06:57 |
| jbicha | are we considering switching to gksu-polkit? | 07:06 |
| pitti | hey mvo | 07:06 |
| pitti | jbicha: we don't, but we plan to switch to pkexec | 07:06 |
| pitti | jbicha: we have a PolicyKit patch in the pipeline for these | 07:06 |
| didrocks | mvo: so, I'll start from the-aestetics branch for oneconf and try to bind it to the gtk3 branch, is it ok? (seems that the "all softwares" as I told you yesterday, doesn't work there with the categories) | 07:07 |
| mvo | didrocks: yeah, that sounds good, its a lot of work-in-progress in this branch, keep that in mind, but if you add the features as isolated as possilbe it should be ok | 07:08 |
| mvo | hey pitti | 07:08 |
| didrocks | mvo: nice! I'll just need to see why the categories aren't working as I'll base the oneconfpane on it | 07:08 |
| Sweetshark | Morning all! | 07:10 |
| mvo | didrocks: what exactly do you see ? i.e. any error message or what do you click? | 07:11 |
| didrocks | mvo: no, I have the busy cursor and nothing appear (the other panes are ok though) | 07:11 |
| didrocks | mvo: the pane itself stay grey, even no spinning draw | 07:13 |
| didrocks | mvo: I guess it's because of ImportError: No module named mock | 07:13 |
| mvo | didrocks: oh, indeed | 07:13 |
| didrocks | mvo: I'm installing python-mock, what's is it for? :) | 07:14 |
| didrocks | appart from mocking me ;) | 07:14 |
| didrocks | I'll need to test it for my oneconf backend, looks interesting :) | 07:15 |
| didrocks | ah now a self.appname = unicode(appname) unicode issue (probably because of è in logithèque) | 07:16 |
| mvo | didrocks: its just there (the mock) for testing while the new banner feature is waiting for deployment | 07:18 |
| mvo | hey seb128! you are here early | 07:18 |
| seb128 | hey mvo | 07:18 |
| seb128 | "early", well trying to go back to "normal hours" ;-) | 07:18 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:19 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 07:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, didrocks, how are you today? | 07:19 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: libreoffice_3.3.3-1ubuntu2_source.changes is on chinstrap waiting for upload to natty-proposed (fixing lp#813148) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | seb128: I'm ok, thanks, hoping that I'll have some time to code :-) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | and you? | 07:20 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I'm fine thanks | 07:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, "time to code", ahah good one, are you new around? ;-) | 07:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, this is my first day! :-) | 07:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, that never works, there is always somebody who needs something :p | 07:21 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:23 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 07:23 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 07:23 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 07:23 |
| pitti | getting time-pressured to have a reasonably clean "desk" before holidays :) | 07:23 |
| pitti | TheMuso: merged, thanks! | 07:24 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: oh argh -- mind to rebuild it again, with -v1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 ? this will include the previous -proposed changelog | 07:26 |
| pitti | (required SRU policy) | 07:26 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: does that take very long? a source package build, I mean? | 07:26 |
| didrocks | mvo: waow! fixing the unicode issue and then, it's very slick! nice work :) | 07:27 |
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| pitti | it could also be hand-crafted into the source.changes, but that's a bit fiddly | 07:27 |
| didrocks | mvo: can you just commit that to not hate french people please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/648866/ ? :) | 07:27 |
| pitti | wow, it doesn't default to utf-8? | 07:28 |
| didrocks | pitti: ascii strict | 07:29 |
| * pitti usually uses str.encode() which does | 07:29 | |
| didrocks | so è isn't in it :-) | 07:29 |
| mvo | didrocks: sure, will do | 07:29 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 07:29 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: not compared to other LO operations. ;) | 07:29 |
| pitti | oh, I lied -- .encode() only defaults to utf-8 in python 3 apparenlty | 07:30 |
| * Sweetshark .oO( *puff* ) | 07:32 | |
| Sweetshark | pitti: should I also do a -sa upload as 3.3.2-1ubuntu5 had none of the source used in 3.3.3? | 07:32 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: no, -sd is fine | 07:33 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: the new origs are already in the archive | 07:33 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: -v only includes the previous changelog, nothing else | 07:33 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: it's mostly for getting a correct display in update-manager (all changes you'll get in -updates) plus correct bug ref parsing in the SRU reports | 07:33 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: heh, I explicitly did a -v1:3.3.3-1ubuntu1 last time :( | 07:34 |
| pitti | that's the default (only include the topmost changelog) | 07:35 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: libreoffice_3.3.3-1ubuntu2_source.changes is on chinstrap (again) waiting for upload to natty-proposed (fixing lp#813148) | 07:35 |
| pitti | uh, that was too much now | 07:35 |
| pitti | goes all the way back to 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu6~ppa1 | 07:36 |
| pitti | but I'll just remove the extra bits from the sources.changes | 07:36 |
| pitti | oh, that actually might be right | 07:36 |
| Sweetshark | looks ok to me ... | 07:37 |
| pitti | uploaded, thanks! | 07:37 |
| seb128 | hum | 07:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw I pinged the yorba guys about shotwell on gtk3, they are investigating it and will reply within a week to tell if they will do it this cycle or not | 07:40 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey ;-) | 07:40 |
| robert_ancell | hi | 07:40 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, how are you? | 07:40 |
| robert_ancell | busy | 07:40 |
| Sweetshark | pitti: does bug 813148 now need additional SRU infos, or should we continue to use 709778? | 07:41 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 813148 in libreoffice "libreoffice in natty-proposed has icon theme regression" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/813148 | 07:41 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I can imagine ;-) I just wanted to tell you that I like the unity greeter :p | 07:41 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: have an appointment now, bbl | 07:43 |
| seb128 | vuntz, hey, do you plan to review that wnck patch? if not I will just upload a version with ubuntu_ namespace to the functions to oneiric if that's ok with you | 07:43 |
| seb128 | vuntz, we can go back to the upstream version the day you decide on the naming then ;-) | 07:44 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, is there anything that we can do to help on lightdm? is testing trunk, or valgrinding it a bit, just to see etc useful or should we wait for stabilization a bit before doing that? | 07:45 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I'm just trying to get the 0.9.0 release out, then I'll be in a better position to say "it should be rock stable, go for it" | 07:46 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, if you want to hunt for leaks, valgrind, or add unit tests that would all be helpful | 07:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ok, great, I will let you work then ;-) | 07:46 |
| robert_ancell | agh, lost my train of tought | 07:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, sorry :-( | 07:46 |
| robert_ancell | :) | 07:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, I will let you work, good hacking ;-) | 07:47 |
| jbicha | seb128: I'm having problems getting my gnome-sudoku to run | 07:49 |
| seb128 | jbicha, what does it do? | 07:49 |
| jbicha | seb128: http://paste.ubuntu.com/648808/ | 07:49 |
| seb128 | hum | 07:50 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, pitti: ^ do you have any clue about that? | 07:50 |
| jbicha | I thought it would be using gtk3 | 07:50 |
| seb128 | seems gir ish | 07:50 |
| seb128 | jbicha, weird | 07:54 |
| seb128 | import gi | 07:54 |
| seb128 | gi.require_version("Gtk", "3.0") | 07:54 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you have the gtk3 gir installed? | 07:54 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes, gir1.2-gtk-3.0 and I went ahead and uninstalled the gtk2 one | 07:55 |
| seb128 | jbicha, no difference? | 07:56 |
| jbicha | seb128: right, but Rawhide's sudoku 3.1.3 works | 07:57 |
| seb128 | hum | 07:57 |
| seb128 | jbicha, well let's see if pitti has an idea when he's back, but let's not block the update on that, we can fix it later | 07:58 |
| seb128 | especially if the issue is in the gir stack rather than gnome-games | 07:58 |
| jbicha | seb128: building without --disable-gnuchess uses a bundled gnuchess to provide AI | 08:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, usually if you change a flag just put a rational on why in the changelog | 08:03 |
| seb128 | so it's easier for others to understand the motivation | 08:03 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo_ | 08:05 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 08:05 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I'm fine, and you? | 08:09 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, i'm fine thanks | 08:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what do you work on at the moment? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hum, I didn't realize your gnuchess configure option would add a depends, would you mind reverting that for that update? | 08:21 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, some g-c-c bugs | 08:21 |
| seb128 | jbicha, gnuchess is in universe and we better handle that change in a following update rather than block the update and dh_python2 switch to a new mir | 08:22 |
| jbicha | seb128: oh good point about the depends | 08:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, don't bother with the g-s-d snapshot thing, that can wait monday new tarball | 08:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, right, but I'll do the release and package tomorrow, as Monday is a holiday here, so will do both tomorrow | 08:23 |
| rodrigo_ | or maybe during the weekend | 08:23 |
| seb128 | ok | 08:23 |
| rodrigo_ | need to run some quick errands, brb | 08:24 |
| jbicha | seb128: pushed | 08:25 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks! | 08:30 |
| pitti | Sweetshark: that's fine; I'll close this once it gets accepted into -proposed | 08:37 |
| pitti | seb128: uh, never saw http://paste.ubuntu.com/648808/ | 08:41 |
| pitti | seb128, jbicha: no, that's the static pygtk binding | 08:42 |
| jbicha | seb128: let me work on this a bit more before uploading then | 08:46 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok | 08:52 |
| rodrigo_ | ugh, lp times out | 08:59 |
| rodrigo_ | is it in maintainance today? | 08:59 |
| jbicha | ok, I can't figure it out, the only obvious reference to pygtk in the source is http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-games/tree/configure.in#n485 | 09:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you have a leftover .pyc on disk from the previous version that didn't get cleaned on update? | 09:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, like in the old python dir | 09:08 |
| seb128 | since you switched to dh_python2 it changed dirs, we got bugs before where there was leftover pyc in previous packaging system dirs | 09:08 |
| seb128 | jbicha, strace it and see what pyc it loads maybe | 09:10 |
| jbicha | seb128: ok, can't figure it out | 09:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you strace it? | 09:32 |
| seb128 | jbicha, can you pastebin the strace? | 09:32 |
| jbicha | yes | 09:32 |
| jbicha | you can also try the gnome-games from https://launchpad.net/~jbicha/+archive/dev it uses pysupport though | 09:33 |
| seb128 | jbicha, try to strace gnome-sudoku 2>&1 | grep pyc I guess | 09:34 |
| jbicha | http://paste.ubuntu.com/648951/ | 09:35 |
| seb128 | jbicha, random idea, does uninstalling python-bugbuddy makes a difference? | 09:40 |
| jbicha | seb128, pitti: it's python-launchpad-integration that was breaking it | 09:57 |
| seb128 | oh, makes sense | 09:57 |
| seb128 | you should use the gir for it | 09:57 |
| seb128 | or it will bring the old gtk2 | 09:58 |
| seb128 | jbicha, good catch ;-) | 09:58 |
| jbicha | python-bugbuddy wasn't installed by the way but eventually digging through strace I found what was | 09:58 |
| seb128 | ok | 09:59 |
| seb128 | jbicha, btw is vinagre still broken? do you know if it is broken on other distros as well? | 10:00 |
| jbicha | seb128: it's not broken on other distros, but I don't understand dso linking and all that | 10:01 |
| jbicha | to know how to patch it for Ubuntu | 10:01 |
| seb128 | is there a bug open about the issue with what you figured? | 10:01 |
| jbicha | seb128: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652531 | 10:06 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 652531 in general "vinagre 3.1.2 - gcc warnings known to cause issues (raised to errors by Open Build Service)" [Major,Resolved: wontfix] | 10:06 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 10:06 |
| seb128 | we should have a bug in launchpad about it as well to track it for oneiric | 10:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, oh, that's the build issue | 10:08 |
| jbicha | there's also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653558 | 10:08 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 653558 in general "Unable to connect to RDP or SSH" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:08 |
| seb128 | right, I was rather talking about that issue | 10:09 |
| jbicha | my last vinagre upload didn't build on amd64 so that's what I thought you were referring to | 10:10 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, that explains it :) (sorry, was on another call) | 10:10 |
| seb128 | right, I know what the issue is for this one, it's similar to the one I fixed in the previous upload | 10:10 |
| seb128 | they need to declare their functions before using them | 10:10 |
| seb128 | which upstream claim will be fixed when they properly land the vala refactoring he's working on | 10:11 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you update gnome-games to fix the launchpadlib thing or should I or somebody have a look to it? | 10:12 |
| jbicha | seb128: I just disabled lpi for sudoku & pushed | 10:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, I will review what you have and probably fix the lpi thing before uploading, it should be a similar call but from the gir rather than from the static binding | 10:14 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks for the update! | 10:15 |
| pitti | smspillaz, didrocks: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-dx-o-compiz (i. e. mostly the gsettings migration) actually going to happen for oneiric, or should we move to p? | 10:16 |
| jbicha | seb128: oh, I forgot that gi works that way, but you could probably fix it faster than I could | 10:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: it has to happen if we want the new unity plugins to be activated | 10:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: smspillaz did some work there | 10:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, if you want to fix it feel free but I'm fine doing it before uploading otherwise | 10:17 |
| didrocks | and there is a pending branch waiting for review by dx | 10:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, just tell me if I should do it or not so we don't duplicate work ;-) | 10:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: then this should be milestoned for a3 or beta-1 at latest (which is already past FF) | 10:17 |
| jbicha | seb128: you go ahead :-) | 10:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: do you think that's realistic for two weeks? | 10:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, will do, thanks | 10:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: indeed, but it seems that dx isn't using the WI tracker | 10:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: if it's reviewed as I reasked this morning, can be | 10:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: set to a3 for now, thanks | 10:18 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 10:18 |
| pitti | TheMuso: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-dx-o-unity-a11y looks strange -- there's three real WIs for you at the top, and a bunch of "almost formatted like work items" at the bottom | 10:21 |
| smspillaz | pitti: it's done, blocked on review | 10:23 |
| pitti | smspillaz: cool, thanks | 10:24 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: gord had some questions he asked you on IRC IIRC | 10:33 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: they're not in my scrollback :( | 10:33 |
| didrocks | smspillaz: I guess you can directly see with him :) | 10:34 |
| smspillaz | didrocks: he needs to comment on the MR | 10:35 |
| gord | guys i'm right here | 10:35 |
| * gord waves | 10:35 | |
| gord | smspillaz, where do you get CompizGSettings from? | 10:35 |
| gord | i can't build it | 10:35 |
| didrocks | come on, it's not like you are not on the same team and you need me for binding the communication :/ | 10:35 |
| gord | didrocks, i asked like three times ;) smspillaz is just not easy to grab a hold of this week | 10:36 |
| smspillaz | because I'm not meant to be here ;-) | 10:36 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, https://code.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/oneiric/system-config-printer/fix-787694/+merge/68656 | 10:37 |
| smspillaz | gord: lp:compiz-compizconfig-gsettings | 10:37 |
| gord | smspillaz, erm, thats what this is a branch of isn't it? it tries to load COmpizGSettings and cmake complains "include could not find load file" | 10:38 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, thanks, I will test today. | 10:40 |
| smspillaz | gord: oh, sorry | 10:43 |
| smspillaz | gord: there's a merge proposal to that | 10:43 |
| smspillaz | hang on a minute | 10:43 |
| smspillaz | https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz-compizconfig-gsettings/compiz-compizconfig-gsettings.port_to_gsettings/+merge/68026 | 10:46 |
| smspillaz | gord: ^ | 10:46 |
| chrisccoulson | hello everyone | 10:47 |
| gord | smspillaz, right, thats the branch i am trying to build | 10:47 |
| gord | smspillaz, it doesn't build because of the missing load file | 10:47 |
| smspillaz | gord: ah, dammit | 10:47 |
| smspillaz | gord: I think you need the schema generation stuff | 10:48 |
| smspillaz | so I'll get that for you | 10:48 |
| smspillaz | (sorry about that, it's my screwup) | 10:48 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, thunderbird got hit by the broken optimizations too | 10:48 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? | 10:50 |
| smspillaz | gord: https://code.launchpad.net/~compiz-team/compiz-core/compiz-core.gen_gsettings_schemas | 10:51 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, I have tried the patch, but the resulting .desktop file is not valid. It gives this error: | 10:52 |
| tkamppeter | /home/till/ubuntu/system-config-printer/system-config-printer-1.3.3+20110712/debian/tmp//usr/share/applications/system-config-printer.desktop: error: value "Unity;" for key "OnlyShowIn" in group "Desktop Entry" contains an unregistered value "Unity"; values extending the format should start with "X-" | 10:52 |
| tkamppeter | Error on file "system-config-printer.desktop": Failed to validate the created desktop file | 10:52 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, it was a "desktop-file-install" command which caused this error. | 10:57 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, that's a bug in desktop-file-install | 10:57 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, Unity was added to the supported values in the specification but the tools didn't get updated yet | 10:57 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, do you have a quick workaround so that I can test rodrigo_'s work? | 10:58 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, hmm, are you running oneiric? | 10:58 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, yes. | 10:58 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, what seb128 said | 10:58 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, don't use desktop-file-install, just cp the .desktop as a workaround? | 10:59 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, you are doing your Oneiric development work on Natty? | 10:59 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, no | 10:59 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, but you should open a bug against desktop-file-utils | 10:59 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, we didn't nothing it before because other softwares simply cp their .desktop, they don't use desktop-file-install | 11:00 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I see now, the upstream Makefile uses it. Seems that I have to patch that away. | 11:05 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, i'm good thanks. how are you? | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | i only just noticed your message there ;) | 11:17 |
| seb128 | I'm fine thanks | 11:20 |
| seb128 | just finished to eat and making some coffee to start the afternoon ;-) | 11:20 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 11:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i need some coffee | 11:23 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, rodrigo_, in my "Off button" menu there are no "System Settings" any more, how do I recover them? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, run gnome-control-center from whatever you usually use to run commands | 11:26 |
| seb128 | it will be back in the ui later in the cycle maybe in the launcher | 11:27 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, yeah, run gnome-control-center on a terminal | 11:27 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, now I have done the following: | 11:28 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, I have applied the debdiff of your changes on s-c-p, but due to above-mentioned desktop-file-install problem I have commented out the OnlyShowIn=Unity; line by editing the patch. | 11:31 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, this way I could build s-c-p and install it. | 11:31 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, then I logged out and logged in again | 11:31 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, and started g-c-c from the command line (see problem above). | 11:32 |
| tkamppeter | Now in g-c-c there is no printing icon, neither from s-c-p nor from the GNOME printing tool. | 11:32 |
| rodrigo_ | not even the gnome one? | 11:33 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, yes, not even the gnome one. | 11:33 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, right, the gnome one has OnlyShowIn=GNOME; and you removed the OnlyShowIn, so none of them shows up, right | 11:35 |
| rodrigo_ | can you edit /usr/share/applications/system-config-printer-gnome.desktop and add the OnlyShowIn=Unity; and try again? | 11:35 |
| jbicha | don't forget to run sudo update-desktop-database after editing a .desktop | 11:39 |
| tkamppeter | I did so now. After simply closing and restarting g-c-c I get again now printer icon at all, even not from the GNOME tool. | 11:40 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, on unity I see the gnome one, I thought it was due to some missing thing from mterry's work to teach g-c-c about OnlyShowIn, so I'll ask him later | 11:41 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, I have tried to log out and log in again and I have done sudo update-desktop-database now. All this does not make the s-c-p icon appear in the g-c-c/ | 11:42 |
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| seb128 | tkamppeter, commit the patch, it's correct, it's just non trivial to test due to the issues you are running into | 11:47 |
| rodrigo_ | tkamppeter, yeah, I'll talk with mterry and see what's missing for this to work | 11:48 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, tkamppeter: likely a call the gmenu-update-... | 11:49 |
| seb128 | which is a trigger in the package | 11:49 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, bug 814034 | 11:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 814034 in desktop-file-utils "desktop-file-install rejects .desktop files with "OnlyShowIn=Unity;"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814034 | 11:49 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks | 11:49 |
| seb128 | urg | 11:49 |
| seb128 | desrt, glib iz borked | 11:49 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, I cannot commit the patch yet as it will FTBFS due to bug 814034. | 11:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 814034 in desktop-file-utils "desktop-file-install rejects .desktop files with "OnlyShowIn=Unity;"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814034 | 11:50 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, ok, will get that fixed | 11:50 |
| desrt | seb128: what did i do? :( | 11:50 |
| seb128 | desrt, dunno if it's you, 2.29.10 to 12 segfault applications on start | 11:50 |
| desrt | seb128: i should warn you. you are causing dconf-dump to be pushed down my todo list :) | 11:50 |
| desrt | seb128: backtrace appreciated :) | 11:51 |
| seb128 | desrt, trying to get one, it's not easy since I can't open a web browser or anything | 11:51 |
| seb128 | let me downgrade it | 11:51 |
| desrt | seb128: pastebinit! | 11:51 |
| seb128 | it's doing an invalid free in the unico theme engine | 11:51 |
| desrt | oh. | 11:51 |
| desrt | known issue. it's a gtk bug, actually. | 11:51 |
| desrt | the workaround is committed upstream | 11:51 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:51 |
| desrt | (to gtk) | 11:51 |
| seb128 | great | 11:52 |
| seb128 | "great" rather | 11:52 |
| seb128 | desrt, would have been nice to let a notice of that somewhere | 11:52 |
| seb128 | so what should I do, backport the gtk patch and make glib breaks gtk << backport? | 11:52 |
| desrt | seb128: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=7741f5a09a841c4dc93727b990defc303510ed2c | 11:53 |
| seb128 | desrt, isn't that an abi break in some way? ;-) | 11:53 |
| desrt | i don't consider it to be | 11:53 |
| desrt | gtk was invalidly depending on undocument behaviour | 11:54 |
| seb128 | is other code out of gtk likely to have issues? | 11:54 |
| desrt | i doubt it | 11:54 |
| desrt | and i've heard no reports | 11:54 |
| desrt | even see the GTK code in question has /* FIXME: hack hack hack, replacing pspec->name to include namespace */ | 11:54 |
| desrt | they knew they were causing trouble :) | 11:54 |
| seb128 | desrt, do they both need to be updated together? | 11:54 |
| seb128 | desrt, i.e will the gtk commit create issue on glib 2.29.10? | 11:54 |
| desrt | i don't know. | 11:54 |
| desrt | oh. no. definitely not. | 11:55 |
| desrt | actually, yes. it will. | 11:55 |
| desrt | sorry | 11:55 |
| seb128 | :-( | 11:55 |
| seb128 | that's a sucking situation | 11:55 |
| desrt | ya. that's kinda lame now that i think about it. | 11:55 |
| seb128 | I think I will just revert the glib "fix" | 11:55 |
| seb128 | it seems an abi break to me | 11:55 |
| desrt | that's going to cause other problems with new code | 11:55 |
| desrt | it's only an ABI break in so far as other code is doing invalid hacks to modify the memory owned by glib itself | 11:56 |
| seb128 | desrt, having a glib update making every gtk application segfault on start if you don't update gtk is going to be a real issue | 11:56 |
| desrt | seb128: so do a lockstep upgrade to the new gtk? | 11:56 |
| seb128 | you will have an hard time assure everybody upgrade both glib and gtk together | 11:57 |
| desrt | seb128: i'm not very happy with the updated gtk hack, to be honest | 11:57 |
| seb128 | desrt, well, that will fix it for us | 11:57 |
| seb128 | desrt, there is still going be lot of people "out there" building a new glib and going to be hit hard | 11:57 |
| seb128 | getting a "nothing start on my system with the new glib" | 11:57 |
| desrt | yes. that's true. | 11:57 |
| desrt | i'm a bit sad that a note wasn't included in the NEWS at least | 11:58 |
| desrt | i think we didn't realise it would be a problem until it was already too late | 11:58 |
| seb128 | that really sucks, you should put big warning "it's going to break your system if you don't have a GTK which has no tarball yet" | 11:58 |
| seb128 | desrt, can't you just back out the change? | 11:58 |
| desrt | i'll see about getting a gtk release | 11:58 |
| seb128 | hum, well we can deal with that | 11:59 |
| seb128 | but I still see lot of people "out there" who will do a glib update because they need it | 11:59 |
| seb128 | not especially gtk hackers | 11:59 |
| seb128 | just glib users | 11:59 |
| seb128 | that will get bitten hard | 11:59 |
| seb128 | nobody ever stated that glib updates should be locked with gtk ones | 12:00 |
| desrt | and nobody ever stated that gtk will never have any bugs | 12:00 |
| seb128 | well having a bug is an issue | 12:00 |
| seb128 | stopping any software to start is a bit over "having a bug" | 12:00 |
| desrt | this code is buggy. even after the update, it is still buggy. | 12:00 |
| desrt | (just slightly less) | 12:01 |
| seb128 | desrt, will it break gtk2 as well? | 12:02 |
| desrt | i hope not. let me check. | 12:02 |
| desrt | you're on gtk-2-24? | 12:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, well, I'm not deciding for glib but I think it's a mistake to put a version out which will break system of people not tracking unstable gtk | 12:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, yes | 12:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, I can see lot of cases where people need gio or glib and track glib updates without gtk ones | 12:03 |
| Cimi | here I am | 12:03 |
| desrt | seb128: you make a good point, from a pragmatic standpoint | 12:03 |
| desrt | seb128: i think the problem is that we didn't know of the problem until after the release was already done | 12:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, it's maybe not technically an abi break but seems equivalent on the consequence | 12:04 |
| desrt | Cimi: unico is crashing with recent glib changes | 12:04 |
| seb128 | desrt, well it's not too late to back out, it's only an unstable serie | 12:04 |
| Cimi | desrt: nice :D | 12:04 |
| Cimi | desrt: fix, error? | 12:04 |
| desrt | Cimi: and we're wondering if it is due to you copy/pasting code from gtk, or if it's just via normal gtk use | 12:04 |
| desrt | Cimi: http://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=7741f5a09a841c4dc93727b990defc303510ed2c | 12:04 |
| desrt | Cimi: this is the code | 12:05 |
| desrt | seb128: i can confirm that this evil code is not in gtk2 | 12:05 |
| seb128 | ok, that's something | 12:05 |
| seb128 | it means you will only hit people on gtk3 which update glib and not gtk | 12:05 |
| Cimi | desrt: is this code in unico? I doubt | 12:05 |
| desrt | Cimi: okay. good. | 12:05 |
| desrt | so it's not a unico problem. strictly gtk. | 12:06 |
| seb128 | which is likely still a non trivial number of users imho | 12:06 |
| desrt | seb128: yes. i agree. | 12:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, you create a chicken egg issue as well | 12:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, let's say you are on glib 2.28 gtk 3.0 | 12:06 |
| Cimi | desrt: I didn't copy/pasted code from gtk+, just gtkroundedbox.c (yesterday), is not in oneiric | 12:06 |
| seb128 | you need to update to glib 2.30 to build gtk 3.2 | 12:06 |
| seb128 | desrt, but when you will update your glib you will break your system | 12:06 |
| seb128 | how do you build gtk3.2? | 12:06 |
| seb128 | you need to debootstrap out of the real system? | 12:07 |
| seb128 | it's ridiculous... | 12:07 |
| Cimi | desrt: bug trace^ | 12:07 |
| Cimi | ? | 12:07 |
| desrt | seb128: you apt-get dist-upgrade and it happens at the same time :) | 12:07 |
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| seb128 | desrt, as said it's not a real issue for us but I'm thinking from a glib community perspective | 12:07 |
| seb128 | desrt, though I'm pretty sure some people do use glib trunk builds on natty and will get hit as well | 12:08 |
| desrt | seb128: i think those that follow the unstable cycle will encounter problems... | 12:08 |
| desrt | it's always a bumpy ride | 12:08 |
| seb128 | desrt, no, my example was a stable to stable situation | 12:08 |
| desrt | right. of course. | 12:08 |
| seb128 | 2.28, 3.0 combo install, GNOME 3.2 is out | 12:08 |
| seb128 | what do you do? | 12:08 |
| desrt | i'm not sure we can avoid it, other than to backport the fix | 12:08 |
| seb128 | you start by upgrading glib so you can build gtk | 12:08 |
| seb128 | which lead to have no working box | 12:08 |
| desrt | to the stable series | 12:08 |
| seb128 | desrt, do you really need that glib "fix" | 12:09 |
| desrt | (after adjusting it to work with both glibs -- which should be possible) | 12:09 |
| desrt | seb128: i don't *need* it, but it sure is nice... | 12:09 |
| seb128 | desrt, you have an issue that you can't fix without breaking abi in some way, it was never a stopper, let it buggy the way it was? | 12:09 |
| desrt | seb128: here's my proposal: new point release on the 3.0 stable branch that addresses the issue | 12:11 |
| desrt | it will be picked up and packaged/shipped in the usual way | 12:11 |
| desrt | and by the time the new stable release of glib is out, most should have it | 12:11 |
| desrt | that should solve the issue for 99% of people who would encounter it | 12:11 |
| seb128 | desrt, what issue not having that glib commit create? | 12:12 |
| ricotz | hello, which change are you talking about? | 12:12 |
| desrt | seb128: having the pspec name interned lets us to value-comparison on the gparamspec name from notify functions | 12:12 |
| desrt | instead of string comparison | 12:12 |
| desrt | it also saves a bit of memory | 12:13 |
| desrt | it's an enhancement, strictly speaking | 12:13 |
| desrt | but it's one that i'm already using | 12:13 |
| ricotz | ok, i guess it is http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=706b2751166bb8590e41800d0b3c3056ba529daa | 12:13 |
| seb128 | ricotz, glib's gparamspec name property change | 12:13 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks | 12:14 |
| desrt | ricotz: it's not that one. | 12:14 |
| desrt | ricotz: that's the one i did today to prevent situations like this from happening in the future | 12:14 |
| desrt | the one that really introduced the problem is slightly older | 12:14 |
| desrt | http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=d6c30e1766c975dd79e6f252d73c6c0581b64b01 | 12:15 |
| desrt | here | 12:15 |
| ricotz | desrt, alright | 12:15 |
| seb128 | desrt, well, your call, I would value the stability over the small optimization | 12:15 |
| seb128 | desrt, but I can understand if you go the other way around | 12:15 |
| seb128 | it's just going to hit users whatever you do and I think the small win is not worth | 12:15 |
| desrt | seb128: i'll fix the problem in all affected branches of gtk and arrange to get some new releases | 12:15 |
| seb128 | desrt, the fixed gtk versions will work on both glib < current et on current right? | 12:16 |
| seb128 | like on 2.28 and trunk | 12:16 |
| desrt | yes. i will ensur ethat. | 12:16 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:16 |
| desrt | not very good to release a gtk 3.0.x that only works with unstable glib :) | 12:16 |
| seb128 | well I still think it's a mistake but I've made my point | 12:16 |
| seb128 | we just have to agree on disagreeing there | 12:17 |
| desrt | seb128: i think after the new gtk releases this will mostly be a bad memory | 12:17 |
| seb128 | what you will do will mitigate the effects but not void them | 12:17 |
| desrt | that's true | 12:17 |
| desrt | but the fact remains that this is a gtk bug | 12:17 |
| desrt | so the fix should be with gtk | 12:17 |
| seb128 | desrt, you are sure it's not breaking qt or anything out there right? | 12:17 |
| seb128 | desrt, like not sure how they do their gtk theming integration | 12:18 |
| desrt | seb128: only if they are using glib in an invalid way | 12:18 |
| desrt | seb128: garnacho even realised when he wrote this code that what he was doing was wrong. he even added a comment. | 12:18 |
| seb128 | desrt, well that's sort of my point, even if the way it was done was invalid doesn't make it less of a compatibility break to change it | 12:19 |
| seb128 | but anyway let's see, I will try backporting the gtk patch and see if anything else break | 12:20 |
| desrt | seb128: if we tolerate abuses of our API and fear making changes because of their existence then we sort of miss the point of having a defined interface | 12:20 |
| desrt | seb128: if you backport that patch make sure you introduce a glib dependency | 12:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, I wouldn't mind breaking a few applications, breaking gtk is a bit different ;-) | 12:20 |
| desrt | because that patch will break on the old glib | 12:20 |
| desrt | i will prepare one that is safe for both | 12:20 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, I will lock both together | 12:20 |
| seb128 | well I will just backport for local testing | 12:21 |
| desrt | and release that on the stable series | 12:21 |
| desrt | k. | 12:21 |
| seb128 | I will probably wait your updated version for the official update | 12:21 |
| desrt | really sorry for not having NEWS about this | 12:21 |
| seb128 | desrt, I want to make sure you that doesn't break qt | 12:21 |
| seb128 | because I don't want to tight glib, gtk and qt updates together | 12:21 |
| desrt | that will be some kind of nightmare, indeed :) | 12:21 |
| seb128 | desrt, that's ok, I did catch it before upload ;-) | 12:21 |
| desrt | seb128: oh. great. | 12:21 |
| desrt | seb128: so just wait until we have the new gtk, i guess | 12:22 |
| seb128 | desrt, you might want to drop an email on the gtk-devel list or something about it though | 12:22 |
| desrt | seb128: sure. will do. | 12:22 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:22 |
| seb128 | hey mterry | 12:22 |
| desrt | now that i know the world didn't explode i can take some time to consider the proper fix | 12:22 |
| mterry | seb128, hello! | 12:22 |
| seb128 | mterry, can you look into bug #814034 | 12:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 814034 in desktop-file-utils "desktop-file-install rejects .desktop files with "OnlyShowIn=Unity;"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814034 | 12:23 |
| mterry | yup | 12:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 12:23 |
| seb128 | mterry, desktop-file-install is a bit stupid, it errors out of unknown values | 12:24 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: is it known/wanted that thunderbird isn't explicity set at the default mailto app? | 12:24 |
| seb128 | seems like it should warn only, but still Unity should be added to desktop-file-utils | 12:24 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I guess it needs to be changed in desktop-file-utils, maybe mterry can fix that for you while he's doing work on the source | 12:25 |
| * rodrigo_ lunch | 12:25 | |
| didrocks | seb128: indeed, it's not right now, so just checking :) | 12:26 |
| seb128 | well or just commit the change to the d-f-u so it's in the next upload | 12:26 |
| didrocks | let's do that quickly | 12:27 |
| didrocks | and done :) | 12:29 |
| didrocks | mterry: you should pull if needed | 12:30 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, was evolution ever set as the default in desktop-file-utils? | 12:30 |
| mterry | didrocks, ack | 12:30 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it just worked by virtue of being the only mail client installed | 12:30 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: maybe not, but explicit is better than implicit :) | 12:30 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 12:30 |
| dobey | pitti: cool. is there some awesome way to do magical apport stuff for plug-ins in apps like nautilus/rbox/banshee/etc? | 12:44 |
| desrt | seb128: we decide to use glib_check_version() to work with both old and new glib with the minimal possible amount of changes | 12:46 |
| desrt | seb128: then we'll land the fix on the stable branch | 12:46 |
| seb128 | desrt, right, I read #gtk | 12:46 |
| seb128 | desrt, thanks ;-) | 12:46 |
| desrt | ah. didn't see you there :) | 12:46 |
| seb128 | desrt, enjoy lunch | 12:46 |
| desrt | didrocks is making rice :) | 12:47 |
| seb128 | mterry, just curious but why was that deja-dup upload needed? is that likely to be an issue for other things? | 13:28 |
| seb128 | i.e do we need to rebuild other rdepends? | 13:28 |
| tkamppeter | rodrigo_, s-c-p 1.3.3+20110712-0ubuntu2 (with your patch) is uploaded now. | 13:29 |
| mterry | seb128, yes, I'll do indicator-datetime too | 13:29 |
| mterry | seb128, do we have others? | 13:29 |
| mterry | seb128, (just panels need to be rebuilt) | 13:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, gnome-bluetooth | 13:29 |
| seb128 | mterry, why do they need a rebuild? | 13:30 |
| mterry | seb128, those are both working fine... | 13:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, there was no recent g-c-c update | 13:30 |
| mterry | seb128, there was 3.1.3, which wasn't recent, but I didn't try to enter the deja-dup preferences since then | 13:30 |
| seb128 | mterry, oh ok | 13:31 |
| mterry | seb128, it added a new virtual function to the panel class | 13:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, alright, thanks | 13:31 |
| mterry | seb128, and there is no buffer room on the class (since it's private! :)) | 13:31 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| mterry | tedg, does unity or do the indicators strip their environment in any way? | 13:42 |
| tedg | mterry, No, just what dbus gives them. So it's the environment very early in the boot process. | 13:43 |
| tedg | (or I guess login) | 13:43 |
| mterry | k | 13:43 |
| tedg | mterry, If the variable isn't set before dbus runs, it won't be seen. | 13:43 |
| dobey | hrmm, why am i getting gpg sig error from dput when uploading to my ppa? boo. | 13:45 |
| seb128 | dobey, ignore it | 13:45 |
| seb128 | dobey, the upload likely worked | 13:45 |
| dobey | seb128: it worked, but it's annoying because i can't pass multiple source.changes arguments with one dput call :/ | 13:46 |
| === m_conley` is now known as m_conley | ||
| kenvandine | hey seb128, that account adding problem you had... can you try that again from a branch? | 13:58 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, sure | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i added a print statement... and haven't been able to reproduce it again :/ | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ken-vandine/gwibber/seb128 | 13:59 |
| kenvandine | and just run ./bin/gwibber-accounts | 13:59 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok | 13:59 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, oh, question for you, is libindicate-gtk on gtk3 required? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | or is that deprecated? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | we still have a wi for it | 14:00 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i keep harassing tedg about it... | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | we need it for tp-indicator at least | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | to display the icon | 14:02 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:02 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is that anything in the debug line you are looking for? | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | the account string that gets printed | 14:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/649144/ | 14:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I've mandled the numbers because I didn't know how much they can be used to do something with my account :p | 14:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, nothing segfaulted, it returned to the account dialog but the left list is empty | 14:05 |
| kenvandine | those are very publically available :) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | like it didn't add any account | 14:05 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it has an "id" | 14:06 |
| seb128 | should I try again? | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | which means gwibber thinks you are editing an existing account | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | no... one sec | 14:06 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | echo "select * from accounts;" | sqlite3 ~/.config/gwibber/gwibber.sqlite | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | you might need to install sqlite3 | 14:07 |
| seb128 | $ echo "select * from accounts;" | sqlite3 ~/.config/gwibber/gwibber.sqlite | 14:07 |
| seb128 | $ | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | so no accounts | 14:07 |
| kenvandine | wtf! | 14:07 |
| dobey | ugh it stores accounts in sqlite3? :( | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | dobey, yes... not passwords :) | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | dobey, how would you suggest storing them? | 14:08 |
| dobey | i thought gnome had this amazing new thing for that :P | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | dobey, we can't use it yet | 14:10 |
| dobey | i was being facetious | 14:10 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, let me know if you need extra debug infos | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | seb128, did this line print more than once "account before checking is_new" | 14:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/649153/ | 14:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that's the full log | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | ah ha! | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | damn!.... it blows up if there is no username returned! | 14:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the first time is before I entered my email and password in the webkit | 14:12 |
| seb128 | I think | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | oh... interesting | 14:13 |
| seb128 | I saw the Couldn't find field: username on the stdout while I was typing my infos | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | ok... that is very helpful! | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, doh, I know! | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it prints it when I validate the color I selected | 14:13 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it happens because I pick a color! | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | yeah... | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | I didn't like the default purple ;-) | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | it is the whole autosaving changes | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | we need to not do that if the account is new :) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well, at least it seems that you have a clue about the issue ;-) | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | yeah... easy fix :) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ok, can you pull and try again? | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | make sure you change the color first too :) | 14:20 |
| seb128 | don't worry ;-) | 14:20 |
| seb128 | I still don't like your default purple :p | 14:20 |
| * kenvandine didn't choose it :) | 14:21 | |
| kenvandine | i don't either | 14:21 |
| seb128 | bah, often the webkit view switch to the password field after I type one letter | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | that's facebook trying to be smart... | 14:22 |
| seb128 | if I was on the laptop keyboard I would blame the palms clicking but I'm on an USB keyboard | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | they aren't :) | 14:22 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:22 |
| seb128 | waouh, I got account! | 14:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, works, thanks! | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | woot! | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | thanks for finding that! | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | seb128, note... replies are broken right now in oneiric :) | 14:23 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, yw | 14:23 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no worry, I'm a lurker, I don't do replies :p | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | i should have another release today :) | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 14:23 |
| pedro_ | is rhythmbox working for anybody? | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | lots of changes since friday... i've been hacking on gwibber every night until like 2am for over a week... | 14:24 |
| pedro_ | hello btw | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | hey pedro_! | 14:24 |
| pedro_ | you guys really want me to switch to the new stuffs heh? | 14:24 |
| seb128 | urg, scrolling and refresh are not working really great in that gwibber | 14:24 |
| * kenvandine removed rb ages ago | 14:24 | |
| pedro_ | first evolution got broken and now rhythmbox? :-P | 14:24 |
| seb128 | pedro_, how is it broken? | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | seb128, what is wrong with scrolling? | 14:25 |
| pedro_ | seb128, for me at least it doesn't start | 14:25 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, first there is no orange scrollbar indicator | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | should be... | 14:25 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, second I often get part of the screen "empty" | 14:26 |
| seb128 | like grey and not filled | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | yeah, we know that :) | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | i'll fix that after FF :) | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | we try to always align a message at the top and keep the view full | 14:26 |
| seb128 | it's weird, I get also a scrollbar on the left like if there was a left bar but there is none | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | but there are bugs | 14:26 |
| seb128 | or it's empty and small | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | oh! | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | ok... that is a bug too | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | which may be fixed in trunk :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | actually, not trunk | 14:27 |
| seb128 | scrolling with the overlay scrollbars by clicking on the thumb leads to the bottom post entry to flicker a bunch of time | 14:27 |
| seb128 | then it updates | 14:27 |
| seb128 | it's weird | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | flickers? | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | humm | 14:27 |
| seb128 | like show,hide,show,hide | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | well, that is probably related to the streams not being lined up right | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | maximize the window | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | is it better? | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | basically all the streams are there, side by side... and we move between them | 14:28 |
| seb128 | that's completly broken | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | there seems to be some calculation problems there | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | close it and start again | 14:29 |
| seb128 | do you want a screenshot of the completly broken? | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | nah | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | i've seen it | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | i think the trigger is a post that can't be sized properly | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | makes the stream too wide... and it doesn't recalculate it | 14:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, it's better now | 14:30 |
| seb128 | I've the scrollbar orange indicator | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | max thought right? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | scrolling doesn't flicker | 14:30 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, right | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | unmax now | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | is it still ok? | 14:30 |
| seb128 | it was | 14:31 |
| seb128 | I tried to resize but that broke it | 14:31 |
| seb128 | now I just get a grey squar | 14:31 |
| seb128 | empty gwibber | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | ok, after the resize... close and start over? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, it's good now | 14:32 |
| seb128 | I get the orange hint and the scrolling works | 14:32 |
| seb128 | it's a bit slow but works | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | should be very fast... | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | but at least it's working :) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I think part of the issue is because I've only 10 entries | 14:32 |
| seb128 | and trying to scroll over the end of the stream seems to screw it | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | oh... you need more friends :) | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | hehe :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well that's gwibber which did fetch only 10 | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | so a small stream is something we probably don't handle well | 14:33 |
| seb128 | I've over 300 in the web ui | 14:33 |
| seb128 | I just connected to the website to see | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | interesting... | 14:34 |
| seb128 | I've over 300 non-read ones | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | look at the other streams | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | like attachments | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | those should look mostly empty | 14:35 |
| seb128 | they do ;-) | 14:35 |
| kenvandine | but you have plenty of them? | 14:35 |
| seb128 | no | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | the metadata for those weren't all in the model | 14:36 |
| seb128 | images and video are empty | 14:36 |
| seb128 | there are a few links | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | humm | 14:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well don't bother, I will wait for the new version and see how it works | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | well a new version won't fetch more data | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | it could just be because you just added the account | 14:36 |
| kenvandine | facebook limits how many entries get downloaded | 14:37 |
| seb128 | right | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | so over time it will get more data | 14:37 |
| seb128 | I will try again a bit later and let you know how it does | 14:37 |
| seb128 | it handles not very well too short steams | 14:37 |
| seb128 | the scrolling goes over the list easily and bugs in different ways | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | yeah, i expected that | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | that's the kind of thing i'll work on after FF :) | 14:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it's weird, the first entry is one of you which is empty | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | yeah... :) | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | i was working on replies... and posted an empty message :) | 14:39 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 14:39 |
| seb128 | it didn't get your picture either | 14:39 |
| seb128 | but he got dholbach's and barry's ones | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | you'll get them cached over time... neil is adding async loading of those | 14:40 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:40 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, anyway I got my account working well done | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | same for thumbnails of images | 14:40 |
| seb128 | I will see how it behaves over time when I get a bit more datas fetched in | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | cool | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | thx! | 14:41 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thank you! | 14:41 |
| seb128 | desrt, the "change fileselector on a stable update" will let make it fun for distro to figure if they want to bring the "stable update" in or not, especially for those who have a "no ui change" rule for stable updates | 14:43 |
| desrt | seb128: #gtk+ please | 14:43 |
| mvo | tremolux: awsome news on the startup time improvements for the direct deb open case \o/ | 14:43 |
| seb128 | desrt, that was a side comment, I'm not sure we will win a lot from a discussion there especially if federico is not there | 14:44 |
| tremolux | mvo: :) | 14:44 |
| desrt | seb128: it's a good point. | 14:44 |
| desrt | i'm quite scared to make this release, to be honest | 14:44 |
| seb128 | desrt, I can raise it when federico is around if you want | 14:44 |
| desrt | seb128: i was already planning to hold off on the release until i could talk to him | 14:45 |
| tremolux | mvo: makes a difference for sure! | 14:45 |
| seb128 | desrt, but I know that Debian or Ubuntu would not take an update changing the ui this way, especially that the new ui didn't even get testing in an unstable tarball yet | 14:45 |
| desrt | seb128: meanwhile you could do a lot of people a favour to take my most recent patch as a vendor fix on your existing gtk package... | 14:45 |
| seb128 | desrt, yeah, that's what I was thinking to do | 14:45 |
| mvo | tremolux: yeah, really good. time for a new release :P | 14:45 |
| seb128 | desrt, you should probably drop an email on the distributors list about it | 14:45 |
| tremolux | mvo: sounds good :) | 14:46 |
| desrt | seb128: i was planning to wait until after the release for that but maybe i will do it now | 14:46 |
| seb128 | desrt, well I'm sure some distro will go for the "backport the commit rather than take a new fileselector" way | 14:46 |
| desrt | indeed | 14:46 |
| mvo | seb128: out of curiosity, why a new fileselector? what does it do? | 14:50 |
| mvo | what does it look like? | 14:50 |
| seb128 | mvo, https://live.gnome.org/DocumentCentricGnome | 14:51 |
| seb128 | mvo, https://live.gnome.org/DocumentCentricGnome/Help%20the%20user%20choose%20a%20place%20to%20put%20a%20new%20file | 14:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, http://people.gnome.org/~federico/news-2011-07.html#01 in fact | 14:53 |
| seb128 | it has screenshots | 14:53 |
| mvo | thanks | 14:54 |
| mvo | thats interessting | 14:54 |
| dobey | eww | 14:54 |
| dobey | isn't that what gnome has now? | 14:56 |
| mvo | I had the same feeling and opened up gedit to test | 14:58 |
| seb128 | dobey, mvo: I really dislike the current oneiric way | 15:04 |
| seb128 | it default to the previous folder rather than the current one | 15:04 |
| dobey | seb128: that depends on the app | 15:04 |
| seb128 | which means that usually I get my fileselector open in the dir of what I was packaging before and not what I'm working on next | 15:04 |
| seb128 | well in gedit at least | 15:05 |
| dobey | right, i think gedit remembers the last one | 15:05 |
| seb128 | I usually want to open things when I'm working | 15:05 |
| dobey | i don't use gedit :) | 15:05 |
| dobey | emacs ftw | 15:05 |
| dobey | and i don't understand how those are "dcoument centric" at all | 15:08 |
| dobey | they're "file location centric" | 15:08 |
| jibel | seb128, didrocks, I confirm the link between the leak in compiz and the video driver | 15:40 |
| seb128 | jibel, no leak on intel? | 15:40 |
| jibel | I switched from an nvidia to intel card on the same system and the leak is /only/ ~6MB/hour against 40 to 50MB with nvidia | 15:40 |
| didrocks | waow | 15:40 |
| didrocks | jibel: nvidia blob driver isn't it? | 15:41 |
| jibel | didrocks, yes | 15:41 |
| seb128 | njpatel, ^ | 15:41 |
| seb128 | well pitti was having issues on intel though | 15:41 |
| pitti | seb128: with the memleak? | 15:42 |
| jibel | 6MB is close to what I see on an inactive system | 15:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 15:42 |
| pitti | I don't actually see it growing | 15:42 |
| pitti | I just thought that 700 MB was inordinately large | 15:42 |
| ronoc | mvo, hey | 15:44 |
| ronoc | mvo, when i call simulate on a valid transaction shouldn't i then see a properties changed callback | 15:45 |
| ronoc | maybe its my callback signature | 15:45 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 16:03 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 16:05 |
| chrisccoulson | lol, my daughter has stuck a Qt sticker on her high-chair | 16:12 |
| chrisccoulson | she must have raided my laptop bag | 16:12 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, heh, my nieces have their bikes full of ubuntu stickers :) | 16:14 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 16:14 |
| desrt | seb128: dconf dump/load on master now | 16:14 |
| desrt | using the same keyfile format as /etc/dconf/db/ | 16:15 |
| seb128 | desrt, you should stay in Lyon, seems it fits you well, having a productive week ;-) | 16:15 |
| desrt | seb128: breaking lots of things :D | 16:15 |
| chrisccoulson | breaking things is fun | 16:16 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:16 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, qt!? what's wrong with you :p | 16:16 |
| rodrigo_ | desrt, in lyon? I thought you were in paris? | 16:16 |
| desrt | rodrigo_: i'm an international man of mystery. you have to keep up! | 16:16 |
| * desrt has paris, toronto and berlin on the list for the next couple of weeks | 16:17 | |
| desrt | and montreal very briefly, i think | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_ | desrt, :) | 16:20 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: congrats to the new Qt maintainer! | 16:21 |
| cyphermox | desrt: ping me when you're in montreal if you want to go for a beer or something | 16:21 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i'll tell her. she'll be overjoyed! | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 16:22 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: I guess she designated you as it's in your house! | 16:22 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 16:22 |
| desrt | cyphermox: i'm just passing through YUL :) | 16:23 |
| cyphermox | ah ;) | 16:23 |
| cyphermox | offer still stands for anyone visiting montreal anyway | 16:24 |
| kenvandine | chrisccoulson, my son loves the green Qt towel i got at desktop summit | 16:24 |
| didrocks | you can both maintain it :) | 16:25 |
| desrt | kenvandine: the one that leaves green fuzz all over everything it comes in contact with? | 16:25 |
| didrocks | no need to fight!! | 16:25 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 16:25 |
| kenvandine | desrt, it doesn't anymore | 16:25 |
| cyphermox | desrt: back to working on the parallel ipv4/ipv6 committing of IPs; we got some feedback from dcbw and it mostly all works; just missing something broken for stateless dhcpv6 | 16:25 |
| didrocks | desrt: well, you are in green right now :-) | 16:25 |
| kenvandine | it did though... made a mess of the washer... but he kept using it | 16:25 |
| chrisccoulson | is this the sort of stuff i miss out on by not going to the desktop summit? | 16:25 |
| chrisccoulson | no green towels for me :( | 16:25 |
| desrt | didrocks: only because you were | 16:25 |
| cyphermox | it's nice to see connections establish in <5 seconds instead of > 35 | 16:25 |
| didrocks | oh wait! :) | 16:26 |
| desrt | cyphermox: most would agree :) | 16:26 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| seb128 | didrocks, just curious but why a Breaks on unity-common rather than a versionned depends? | 17:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, usually depends create less upgrade and apt resolver issues | 17:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: will change that for next time, I was tired, indeed a dep will be better, staging the change | 17:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks ;-) | 17:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for notifying :) | 17:08 |
| seb128 | yw! | 17:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, are those wanted? | 17:10 |
| seb128 | - const string PREFIX = "/usr"; | 17:10 |
| seb128 | + const string PREFIX = "/usr/local"; | 17:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, in the config.vala | 17:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, just asking because I crossed them while looking the Breaks and that looked weird | 17:11 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's a static config or will be picked up at build by a configure option or something | 17:11 |
| seb128 | ? | 17:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's taking the real one on rebuild IIRC | 17:12 |
| seb128 | didrocks, excellent ;-) | 17:12 |
| chrisccoulson | w00t - https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/expose-main-pref/+merge/68722 | 17:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i need french translation though ;) | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | (and everything else) | 17:19 |
| seb128 | great | 17:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, gwibber is being weird still | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | seb128, wait for the next upload and see if it is still weird | 17:20 |
| kenvandine | :) | 17:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ok, it has count in the indicator not matching what is the ui | 17:21 |
| seb128 | is "in" the ui | 17:21 |
| seb128 | but yeah, will try the next version | 17:21 |
| kenvandine | the count in the indicator is since the last time you clicked it | 17:22 |
| seb128 | well it says "10" and I just started it and I've like 3 new posts since I closed it | 17:22 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: gwibber doesn't use gtk2 any more right? | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, the gwibber client doesn't | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | gwibber-accounts still does | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | i might try to port that with gi | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | but keep it python for now | 17:23 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 17:23 |
| seb128 | would be nice ;-) | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | i would like to make it use gtk.application | 17:23 |
| seb128 | should be easy enough for the account dialog | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | so to get rid of the wnck dep, i am going to take a swing at that | 17:24 |
| jbicha | ok, because the libgwibber-gtk2 confused me :-) | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | soname... | 17:24 |
| kenvandine | we have lots of packages like that | 17:24 |
| seb128 | libindicate-gtk2... | 17:24 |
| seb128 | wait that's still gtk2 :p | 17:25 |
| jbicha | you mean version 2 of libgwibber, not the gtk2 version? | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128, that reminds me... i've merged libgwibber into the gwibber source... so we don't need the libgwibber source package anymore | 17:25 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128, and there was a bug filed that libgwibber FTBS | 17:25 |
| seb128 | there is a ftbfs bug, recycle it to a "please drop the source" | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | cool | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | and assign to who? | 17:26 |
| jbicha | that's confusing | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | jbicha, i know... we have lots of packages like that | 17:26 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, subscribe archive-admin | 17:27 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:27 |
| seb128 | ubuntu-archive I mean | 17:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, how come you merged it back? (just curious) | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | it never was | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | it is far easier to develop in the same tree | 17:28 |
| seb128 | oh ok | 17:28 |
| kenvandine | and gwibber depends so tightly on it now | 17:28 |
| seb128 | I though it was gwibber code splitted in a lib at first | 17:28 |
| seb128 | yeah, makes sense to keep them in sync in the same source | 17:29 |
| dobey | hrmm | 17:59 |
| dobey | are the ubuntuone packages not part of the ~ubuntu-desktop upload privileges domain? | 17:59 |
| dobey | i guess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Components is outdated | 18:08 |
| BigWhale | Ok, who broke my Launcher and Menu panel? :> | 18:41 |
| * BigWhale bursts into tears. | 18:41 | |
| BigWhale | Uhm... | 19:03 |
| BigWhale | bigwhale@thefish:~$ setsid unity | 19:03 |
| BigWhale | bigwhale@thefish:~$ execvp: No such file or directory | 19:03 |
| BigWhale | Am I doing something wrong? :/ | 19:04 |
| === Zdra-n900 is now known as xclaesse | ||
| chrisccoulson | tedg, are you the best person to review indicator-messages merge requests? | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i assigned you as reviewer for https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/indicator-messages/dont-hardcode-evolution/+merge/68741, but i'm not sure how busy you are ;) | 20:10 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson, best looking, does that work? | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | tedg, yeah, i'm using it here now | 20:10 |
| chrisccoulson | it's nice to have the Mail entry pointing to Thunderbird :) | 20:11 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson, I'm planning on going through merge requests today, but I've gotten waylayed on some HR stuff :-/ | 20:11 |
| chrisccoulson | tedg, sure, no problem | 20:11 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| bryceh | so RAOF, I knew toilets drained backwards when flushed in Australia, but didn't realize waterfalls also went the opposite direction down there. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14217256 | 21:12 |
| RAOF | bryceh: Oh! You've discoverered our secret anti-gravity water research, then? :) | 22:15 |
| bryceh | apparently! | 22:16 |
| RAOF | Man, that's totally awesome! | 22:19 |
| jasoncwarner_ | morning everyone | 22:49 |
| jasoncwarner_ | anyone know why I can't load unity3d this morning? getting pushed to 2d after an update. Also, my nvidia driver seemed to get removed without me knowing...which might have something to do with it, but I can't tell yet ;) | 22:50 |
| broder | what causes apport-gtk to popup when apport writes out a report file? it seems like something must be monitoring /var/crash, but whatever it is doesn't seem to be in apport-gtk itself... | 22:51 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: Good morning! I strongly suspect your two issues are the same - Didier was complaining about nvidia not being built against the -5 kernel yesterday, too. | 22:59 |
| jasoncwarner_ | thank, RAOF...am I then in a 'wait until nvidia builds against the right kernel' scenario? | 22:59 |
| RAOF | jasoncwarner_: I've not investigated why nvidia isn't building against the right kernel. Once it does Unity3d will probably work for you again, though. | 23:01 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: alright. if you find anything, i'd be interested to know when I can use it agian! :) | 23:04 |
| jbicha | bug 814346 | 23:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 814346 in xorg "xorg-common depends on xdiagnose which pulls in all of gtk3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/814346 | 23:19 |
| bryceh | jbicha, hmm good point I hadn't considered kubuntu | 23:35 |
| bryceh | jbicha, alright we'll move xdiagnose down to ubuntu-desktop so it doesn't pull gtk into kubuntu | 23:36 |
| jbicha | bryceh: cool, it was mentiond in #ubuntu+1 so I just helped it along | 23:36 |
| jbicha | bryceh: 1 guy on the forums was upset that Ubuntu was forcing him to install apport | 23:38 |
| jbicha | apport-gtk looks to be only a recommends on ubuntu-desktop so perhaps xdiagnose should be too | 23:39 |
| RAOF | jbicha: apport-gtk, or just apport? | 23:42 |
| RAOF | Because I think it's unreasonable to complain that apport is installed. | 23:43 |
| RAOF | (And will be even more unreasonable when we get a crash database) | 23:43 |
| jbicha | RAOF: I agree that apport is very useful, however he does have a point that this is a change to force it | 23:44 |
| jbicha | recommends does the same thing, right? | 23:44 |
| RAOF | Yes, but with some very important corner-cases. | 23:44 |
| jbicha | well it doesn't matter too much to me either way, I just thought I'd bring up the extreme-minority | 23:45 |
| jbicha | viewpoint :-) | 23:45 |
| RAOF | I'm frankly surprised that apport isn't a dependency of *-desktop already ;) | 23:45 |
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