[03:09] <Juzzy> ya wrst
[03:10] <Juzzy> yanno, I'm a 14 yr linux"user"
[03:10] <Juzzy> and I -hate- ubuntu desktops
[03:10] <Juzzy> I've yet to get one to be reliable
[03:10] <Juzzy> I have a myth box, ubuntu based, and it doesnt read my tv correctly
[03:11] <Juzzy> I've ran it on this laptop, and it's flakey
[03:11] <Juzzy> plugging in usb wifi device will sometimes hard-lock it
[03:11] <Juzzy> not to mention every ubuntu version fixes some issues and breaks new ones
[03:12] <Juzzy> I went from 6.10 to 10.10 and everyone something new broke, and the tv work correctly one of those, but the keyboard didnt
[04:12] <orangeninja> Juzzy: I my laptop's keyboard and touchpad locks up if i press the lock touchpad button. That is the bug that make me the most disapoint...
[04:13] <orangeninja> but I realize I am just scratching the surface with linux.
[11:50] <wrst> Juzzy: seems to me that the more "generic" distros like arch, or even fedora that don't polish things up as well may work better in some situations if you knwo what you are doing , but ubuntu is great for those of us who aren't there yet :)
[11:56] <Juzzy> yea, i have no problem with arch
[11:57] <Juzzy> problem with it, it's a lot of work to setup
[11:57] <Juzzy> and you have to either doa  bunch of walkthroughs
[11:57] <Juzzy> or understand how * works heh
[12:30] <cyberanger> my only issue with arch is I'm a debian fanboy
[12:30] <cyberanger> (or maybe that's arch's issue with me, hard to say)
[12:31] <cyberanger> wrst: "us who aren't there yet" I thought you favored arch
[12:32] <wrst> cyberanger: I do use arch exclusively now but I'm way behind the curve :)
[12:32] <wrst> and Juzzy arch isn't bad... if I can do it... :)
[12:33] <cyberanger> ...try Gentoo or Slackware, cause this is too easy?
[12:35] <wrst> ha ha no thanks cyberanger compiling everything from source is not my cup o' tea
[12:36] <cyberanger> hehe
[12:36] <wrst> but cyberanger I have thought about gentoo in a VM
[13:09] <cyberanger> I've used slackware in a VM
[13:16]  * cyberanger waives goodbye for a few hours
[13:16] <Xpistos> Hey
[13:16] <Xpistos> err ah, bye cyberanger
[13:41] <wrst> well i might try slackware cyberanger you can be tech support :) have a good day
[13:41] <wrst> howdy Xpistos
[13:41] <Xpistos> slackware? Oh you want to compile everything I got it.
[13:43] <wrst> Xpistos: i'm curious
[13:44] <Xpistos> I heard all this great stuff about slackware tried it out and I didn't like it
[13:45] <Xpistos> lol of course I havent' really found anything I "Like" I install ubuntu and rip mosr of the apps out and install enlightenment ...
[13:50] <wrst> Xpistos: I prefer installing what I want to uninstalling what I don't want :)
[13:50] <wrst> but as long as you get what you want its all good :)
[13:51] <Xpistos> yep
[13:52] <Xpistos> I say an interesting derivative yesterday called Bodhi Linux - ubuntu with e17 and not much else preinstalled. http://bodhilinux.com/
[13:52] <wrst> yes I've seent hat looks interesting but I must say I like my good ol GNOME desktop
[13:57] <Xpistos> old gnome desktop yes, unity .. HELL NO
[14:13] <cyberanger> wrst: small difference to gentoo, honestly
[14:13] <wrst> cyberanger: may give it a try
[14:13] <wrst> Xpistos: i'm not talking unity i'm talking GNOME 3/ shell unity is NOT gnome :)
[14:14] <Xpistos> I haven't trie that yet
[14:16] <cyberanger> echo Unity is GNOME | sed s/GNOME/JUNK\!\!\!/
[14:16] <wrst> its no good on ubuntu but good other places
[14:16] <wrst> unity is another shell for gnome...
[14:16] <wrst> and a crummy one at that
[14:16] <cyberanger> wrst: run that in a bash shell
[14:16] <cyberanger> you'll learn some CLI and have a laugh ;-)
[14:17] <wrst> yeah yeah :P
[14:18]  * cyberanger wonders if he actually did, or at least got the jist
[14:20] <wrst> got the jist
[14:26] <cyberanger> and it's worse in other languages than english, esp any right to left languages
[14:27] <cyberanger> Arabic is one critical example of many
[14:30] <cyberanger> Hebrew, Persian, Urdu, that's a large part of the world (and some with a deeper penetration rate than the US & UK)
[14:30] <cyberanger> and I only gave the highlights
[16:05] <pace_t_zulu> reboot
[16:08] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ping
[16:21] <cyberanger> pong
[16:21] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: pong
[16:23] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i got an email from Russ Crawford about getting natty cd's for the NLUG ... how do I go about getting natty cds? do you know?
[16:58] <cyberanger> See PM
[17:07] <Xpistos> AGGG]
[17:07] <Xpistos> stupid vncconfig
[17:07] <cyberanger> smart ssh?
[17:09] <Xpistos> vncconfig is pinned to the top ritgh corner of my window and it won't go away
[17:09] <cyberanger> ouch
[17:10] <Xpistos> finally
[19:48] <Xpistos> Wow,  Ubuntu  10.04.3
[20:56] <wrst> cool... ubuntu service pack 3 :P Xpistos
[20:58] <Unit193> Yeah...
[21:29] <wrst> Unit193: this is an interesting device: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/07/21/fujitsu-announces-smart-phone-running-full-version-windows-7/
[21:33] <Unit193> wrst: Wow. That is a really interesting device! Sadly, isn't Linux not as good with battery life? "My phone has a virus again!!" :D
[22:55] <wrst> yeah Unit193 but where windows is, linux can be there better
[23:01] <Unit193> wrst: I was thinking that, that's why my battery comment :D
[23:01] <wrst> :) Unit193