[06:07]  * nlsthzn waves
[06:11]  * superfly sleeps
[06:13] <nlsthzn> :)
[06:49] <nlsthzn> This is a bit of a sticky wicket... there is another person that is also trying to set up a loco in the UAE it seems... however it would seem he doesn't want to share the spot light... and he registered a number of the resources already a while back even though nothing happened for a long time... and now that we have gotten the ball rolling he seems to be starting to act... but indepndantly and without us :/ 
[06:53] <superfly> nlsthzn: have you (as in, the team) approached him?
[06:57] <nlsthzn> superfly: we have on a few occations tried to contact and once or twice he did respond and it seemed like we would join... seems he joined our meetup group, was made admin it seems and now he has gone and booked his own meeting independantly... not sure what he is playing at to be honest :/ I have let our leaders know... and suggested that as many of us as possible should attend this meeting... maybe speak to him face to face
[06:58] <superfly> nlsthzn: yeah, rather presume innocence, try to meet him half-way or something, and see how it pans out... if he does turn out to want to do his own thing, leave him and get on with your LoCo - if it has enough momentum, it'll eclipse his
[07:08] <nlsthzn> superfly: good advice, thanks... I would also rather hope it is miss-communication or some other issue... The only PITA if he is out on his own mission is the fact that he holds the correct name, ubuntu-ae... and that will make our efforts to become official harder, or delay it at least (which I guess isn't the end of the world, we can still do everything needed even if nor official...) :)
[07:13] <superfly> nlsthzn: what do you mean by "holds the correct name"?
[07:20] <nuvolari_> nlsthzn: does he trade in oil?
[07:20] <nuvolari_> :P
[07:22] <nlsthzn> ubuntu-ae is the correct name for the loco... if you want to go official and all... so he has the launchpad account, and others with that name... when we started the founder named it emirates loco... which is incorrect... and when we tried to change it we found it had been taken...
[08:07] <nuvolari_> ha. who needs biometric laptop access when you use dvorak? :P
[08:08] <nuvolari_> that *is* the biometric, in some way
[08:15] <Kilos> morning superfly nuvolari and all others
[08:15] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:15]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:18] <Kilos> aw the pirate had his P cut off
[08:19] <superfly> morning Kilos
[08:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:20] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:20] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[08:22] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria south africa
[08:22] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[08:22] <Kilos> Maaz, huh
[08:22] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[08:26] <inetpro> morning Kilos, and everyone else
[08:26] <Kilos> hiya inetpro 
[08:26] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos :D
[08:27] <nuvolari> lol Kilos, what's that about the pirate?
[08:27] <Kilos> lo nuvolari lyk my jy sukkel ne
[08:27] <Kilos> lol look at Stevethe1irate 
[08:28]  * nlsthzn waves at uncle Kilos 
[08:29]  * Kilos waves back at nlsthzn 
[08:30] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:32]  * scar[w] wishes gnome and kde would be better friends in wayland
[08:33] <Kilos> wassup scar[w] 
[08:33] <scar[w]> morning Kilos :)
[08:34] <Kilos> i had some kde stuff installed on gnome before but it adds lots of dependancies
[08:34]  * nlsthzn is a purist... can't stand mixing
[08:35] <Kilos> lol @ nlsthzn 
[08:37] <Kilos> methinks if they in synaptic then they work together as one
[08:38] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:45] <Kilos> i see they looking for another Linus . dunno who gets the mail from the linux foundation
[08:46] <Kilos> will forward it to our lists for anyone interested
[08:46] <Kilos> there be a quiz on fb to try your luck
[09:43] <Kilos> cocooncrash, do you know why maaz gave up doing weather in pretoria south africa
[09:43] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria south africa
[09:43] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[09:43] <Kilos> hehe
[09:43] <drubin> Kilos: they changed their website and Maaz hasn't been fixed yet
[09:44] <Kilos> oh ty drubin morning to you
[09:44] <drubin> morning oom Kilos 
[10:18] <maiatoday> does anyone know which device is connected to the pc speakers e.g. /dev/dsp
[10:19] <scar[w]> Kilos dependancies take up extra network bandwidth and disk space, but at lest it doesn't effect the user experience. I hope they would intergrate a little better, mostly in the backend, but also in things like a shared clipboard/open-save-load dialogs
[10:19] <Kilos> thats why i havent tried quassel yet scar[w]  was many megs download
[10:20] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[10:20] <maiatoday> hi Kilos 
[10:20] <scar[w]> afaik natty-kubuntu uses gstreamer as their audio backend, so imho it's a step in the right direction
[10:24] <scar[w]> I liked xine mostly because of the name :-p (also because I'm a kde fanboy), I didn't like arts thought even though it was a kde app.
[10:25] <maiatoday> I mean I know I should probably be going through pulse but I have this python thing that wants to access the device directly but I don't know where it is
[10:25] <scar[w]> ps I think quassel builds just on qt libs, so it should even be a larger download for something like konversation
[10:26] <Kilos> eish maiatoday  no one listening to you
[10:26] <maiatoday> no problem Kilos, maybe sometime someone will read the track back
[10:26] <Kilos> cant you modprobe them
[10:26] <maiatoday> I am also googling in the background
[10:32] <scar[w]> maiatoday: "fuser -fv /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* 2>/dev/null"
[10:33] <scar[w]> seems to be working for me, only shows pids though
[10:33] <nuvolari> bloep
[10:33] <nuvolari> o/
[10:34] <maiatoday> thanks scar[w] that already helps
[10:34] <maiatoday> I have no /dev/dsp
[10:35] <maiatoday> the example I am using uses /dev/dsp and says you must specify another device if /ev/dev/dsp doesn't work
[10:35] <maiatoday> but I do have /dev/snd/* ")
[10:36] <maiatoday> and I can list devices with aplay -l
[10:38] <scar[w]> maiatoday: do you think it is because of problems with your sound card driver?
[10:39] <Kilos> maiatoday, was your sound working before
[10:39] <maiatoday> no problems with sound
[10:40] <maiatoday> sound working fine but I have this little python script I want to run that sends a file to thea device
[10:40] <Kilos> oh
[10:40] <maiatoday> the python script is quite primitive in that it wants to talk directly to the device
[10:44] <scar[w]> do you have any snd kernel modules?
[10:44] <scar[w]> lsmod | grep snd
[10:55] <scar[w]> the following file shows my alsa cards "/proc/asound/cards" and oss-emu cards "/proc/asound/oss/sndstat"
[10:55] <scar[w]> just for extra info
[10:58] <maiatoday> yeah scar[w] it looks like I do
[10:58] <superfly> maiatoday: you have to fight with pulseaudio
[10:59] <maiatoday> superfly: can't pulseaudio just look like a device?
[10:59] <maiatoday> or isn't there a default device mapped in the file system somewhere
[10:59] <superfly> maiatoday: I don't know, I always uninstall it before doing anything else after an upgrade
[11:00] <maiatoday> at this point I don't really mind where the sound comes out just that it comes out
[11:02] <maiatoday> urk it looks like I will have to learn how this all fits in to get this thing to work
[11:14] <nlsthzn> pulseaudio... the reason for more suicides in the FOSS world than X-mas...
[11:22] <Kilos> hehe
[11:23] <Kilos> i see there are even peeps that lurk in the lists
[11:23] <nlsthzn> :)
[11:24] <Kilos> you at home nlsthzn ?
[11:26] <nlsthzn> Nope... chilling here at work currently
[11:28] <Kilos> oh you just dropped the -work
[11:30] <maiatoday> aha the utility knows about pulse :D I just have to tell it to which pulseaudio sink to go to
[11:31] <maiatoday> and that is to be seen by typing pacmd list-sinks
[11:31] <maiatoday> (just incase anyone wanted to know)
[11:31] <nlsthzn> Kilos: I got tired adding the -work, because I am almost always @work... :p
[11:31] <Kilos> lol
[11:37] <Kilos> cellphones are worse than pcs
[11:38] <nlsthzn> I always found cellphones better at making phone calls than my PC...
[11:38] <Kilos> got thisw nokia 93200i and did the jedirc bit and it goes to #ubuntu-za but only me there
[11:38] <Kilos> grrr
[11:38] <Kilos> 9300i
[11:41] <nlsthzn> are you sure you are on freenode?
[11:41] <superfly> Kilos: are you sure you have the correct channel too?
[11:42] <Kilos> yeah chat.freenode.net and #ubuntu-za
[11:43] <nlsthzn> check for any spaces maybe... maybe after the -za bit (but I doubt that is the problem)
[11:44] <Kilos> i get
[11:45] <Kilos> *calvino.freenode.net sets mode +ns #ubuntu-za
[11:45] <Kilos> then nicks in channel @kilosm
[11:45] <Kilos> lol
[11:45] <Kilos> i go check profiles again
[11:46] <nlsthzn> I am not sure why the mode is +ns
[11:46] <nlsthzn> it should be +i I think... 
[11:46] <nlsthzn> where are all the IRC gurus when you need them :p
[11:47] <Kilos> no nlsthzn the prob must be that it going to wrong #ubuntu-za cause i am the only one there
[11:47] <nlsthzn> well... there is only one #ubuntu-za on freenode... and that is this one :)
[11:48] <nlsthzn> +ns seems to make the channel invisible
[11:49] <Kilos> ah i have it
[11:49] <nlsthzn> all a bit confusing to me... when I connect I get a +i
[11:49] <Kilos> needed to put 2 pairs of glasses on
[11:49] <Kilos> #ubuntu~za wont work hey
[11:50] <Kilos> lol
[11:50] <nlsthzn> oh lol...
[11:50] <superfly> hahaha
[11:50] <nlsthzn> yup...
[11:51] <nlsthzn> Now uncle Kilos will be online even when he is on the loo :p
[11:51] <Kilos> lol
[11:51] <Kilos> w00t
[11:52] <nlsthzn> welcome :)
[11:52] <Kilos> the m is for mobile in case you wondering
[11:52] <Kilos> hehe
[11:52] <nlsthzn> could make the nick milos... ;)
[11:53] <kilosm> nl	hi
[11:54] <Kilos> lol
[11:55] <kilosm>  even got 2 profiles and no option to delete onei
[11:55] <Kilos> stupid fone
[12:02] <Kilos> hi morgs 
[17:33] <Kilos> good evening
[17:33] <Kilos> wen jy nuvolari 
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:34]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz, hot
[17:34] <Maaz> Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!
[17:34] <Kilos> cheeky bot
[17:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:38] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:38] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[17:38] <kbmonkey> naand oom Kilos 
[17:38] <Kilos> naand kbmonkey jou LPI trek aandag op die epos ne
[17:39] <kbmonkey> ja ek is bly daaroor :)
[17:39] <Kilos> het jy die laaste een van rth342@gmail.com
[17:41] <kbmonkey> ek sal lees as ek by die PC uitkom
[17:41] <kbmonkey> is op die netbook nou
[17:41] <Kilos> o en daar is n ander ou wat al 1 en 2 gedoen het
[17:41] <Kilos> o is n netboek nie n pc nie
[17:42] <kbmonkey> he he
[17:42] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <kbmonkey> al die email gaan na die desktop
[17:43] <Kilos> apartheid ne
[17:43] <kbmonkey> die een is net vir show, ek run my experimental linuxes op die een
[17:43] <Kilos> lol
[17:43] <Kilos> ek terg man
[17:44] <kbmonkey> Maaz, fortune
[17:44] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Q: What lies on the bottom of the ocean and twitches? A: A nervous wreck.
[17:44] <Kilos> lol
[17:45] <kbmonkey> ha ha ha!
[17:50] <superfly> hiya kbmonkey
[17:50] <superfly> oom Kilos, are you winning with jedirc?
[17:50] <kbmonkey> o/ superfly 
[17:51] <highvoltage> 32
[17:51] <superfly> highvoltage: no, the answer to life, the universe and everything is *42*, not 32
[17:51] <Kilos> yip ty superfly 
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:53] <Kilos> still a way to
[17:57] <Kilos> wb
[18:08] <Kilos> lo queery 
[18:08] <queery> hi oom
[18:28] <Kilos> see yas later via jedirc
[18:38] <kilosm> see superfly
[18:39] <superfly> cool beans, kilosm
[18:39] <kilosm> loll
[18:40] <kbmonkey> nice one kilosm 
[18:40] <kilosm> just gotta work out the tab complete function
[18:41] <kilosm> hard work this tiny qwerty keypad
[18:42] <kilosm> ty guys
[18:45] <kilosm> one advantage i can be in bed with a hot water bottle. hehe. eks sleg ne
[18:56] <kilosm> and one workspace and no bloep when someone vloeks me. grrr
[19:08] <kilosm> maaz coffee on
[19:08]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[19:12] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kilosm!
[19:15] <kilosm> maaz ty
[19:15] <Maaz> Enjoy kilosm
[19:16] <kilosm> night all. i go check settings
[19:33] <nuvolari> bleh
[19:33] <nuvolari> keep on missing the oom
[19:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: tell kilos ja oom! ek wen. besig om ubuntu te install :D
[19:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:35] <kbmonkey> good to hear you winning :)
[20:43] <nuvolari> well, partially
[20:43] <nuvolari> at my 4th attempt
[20:44] <nuvolari> think I need te get xubuntu
[20:44] <nuvolari> or something similar
[20:51] <nuvolari> bah. fail again
[20:51] <nuvolari> I think the laptop is toast
[21:11] <afrodeity> exit