[00:00] <nit-wit> aa555, the bootscript will give us a what is where use the live cd to run it.
[00:00] <goodtime> i just dont like that theres no nice way of addons in xchat
[00:01] <goodtime> i guess it doesnt realy matter thoe
[00:01] <aa555> nit-wit: "gawk" could not be found, using "busybox awk" instead. This may lead to unreliable results.  [: 326: busybox awk: unexpected operator boot_info_script.sh: 353: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[00:01] <erika_> hi, i'm using the ubuntu minimal cd to install ubuntu. When it reachess grub setup, it crash. Anyone has any suggestion on how i could fix or get around this?
[00:02] <nit-wit> aa555, not sure what your doing?
[00:02] <aa555> nit-wit: should i install gawk?
[00:03] <phlux> goodtime: plugins work exactly the same for XChat/irssi/weechat. Fail.
[00:03] <nit-wit> aa555, hold on I will give you a command that will download it and run it.
[00:03] <goodtime> i found a good script for mirc
[00:03] <aikInsaan> aa555,
[00:03] <goodtime> konversation
[00:04] <aa555> got it figured out
[00:04] <goodtime> its a kde but runs well in gnome
[00:04] <aa555> nit-wit: http://pastebin.com/64KZTXzL
[00:04] <qin> goodtime: You for real? Where is support question?
[00:05] <Rikkardino> Ciao
[00:05] <goodtime> ok
[00:05] <nit-wit> aa555, cool hold on
[00:07] <nit-wit> aa555, you have grub -legacy and grub2 installed not a problem. I can help you fix that, from the live cd, you have a 10.10 correct
[00:08] <aa555> nit-wit: yep
[00:08] <nit-wit> aa555, make sure the partitkons are not mounted it should be just like when you booted the cd.
[00:08] <yagoo> !grubfix
[00:08] <nit-wit> yagoo, this is more then a fix please
[00:09] <aa555> nit-wit: i rebooted and didnt mount anything yet so we should be good?
[00:09] <nit-wit> aa555, okay hold on
[00:10] <yagoo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:13] <nit-wit> aa555, open the terminal and run sudo apt-get purge grub grup-pc grub-common   leave the terminal open for the reinstall
[00:14] <yagoo> nit-wit, aa555, try the boot-repair too :)
[00:14] <nit-wit> aa555, grub-pc   misspell
[00:14] <yagoo> it's gui based and looks very easy
[00:14] <aa555> nit-wit: done
[00:15] <nit-wit> theb run sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common     you saw my mispelling correct
[00:15] <aa555> correct
[00:15] <nit-wit> aa555, when asked where you want grub only in sda use the space bar to tick it
[00:16] <yagoo> erika_, it crashes on grub? very unlikely..
[00:16] <aa555> configuring grub-pc " following line extracted from  /etc/default/grub or KOPT parameter please verify it is correct and modify if necessary nit-wit
[00:16] <aa555> what do i put?
[00:16] <nit-wit> aa555, leve it blank
[00:16] <nit-wit> leave
[00:17] <nit-wit> aa555, next prompt grub to sda use the shift to tick it
[00:17] <nit-wit> saa55 sorry not shift space
[00:18] <aa555> nit-wit: failed, said it wasnted mounted
[00:19] <nit-wit> aa555, lets try this again run sudo apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common    copy paste these commands
[00:19] <yagoo> "<nit-wit> aa555, open the terminal and run sudo apt-get purge grub grup-pc grub-common"
[00:19] <yagoo> ^ that is wrong.
[00:19] <yagoo> you use "update-grub"
[00:19] <yagoo> no need to purge and re-install grub-pc
[00:19] <aikInsaan> aikInsaan, just testing
[00:19] <nit-wit> yagoo, he has grub-legacy and grub2 mixed now go away
[00:19] <yagoo> update-grub is for grub2.
[00:20] <yagoo> doesnt matter if both are installed.
[00:20] <DeviceZer0> hello all. I install vlc from a ppa...then i used ppa-purge to remove it....it removed something else too...now no videos will play in any video player
[00:20] <yagoo> it's what's injected into /dev/sda
[00:20] <nit-wit> yagoo take a look here oplease
[00:20] <yagoo> grub-pc is grub2.
[00:20] <nit-wit> http://pastebin.com/64KZTXzL
[00:20] <aa555> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:20] <aa555> nitwit ^
[00:20] <aa555> no i dont have synaptic running
[00:20] <yagoo> aa555, type "jobs"
[00:21] <yagoo> u probably did ctl-z
[00:22] <aa555> jobs doesnt do anything
[00:22] <aa555> still locked
[00:23] <yagoo> aa555, does it list any jobs?
[00:23] <aa555> no
[00:23] <aa555> lists nothing
[00:23] <yagoo> aa555, ps aux
[00:23] <yagoo> aa555, ps aux|grep dpkg
[00:23] <aa555> root      6189  0.0  0.1  22512  9160 pts/2    Ss+  00:16   0:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --configure grub-common grub-pc root      6216  0.1  0.3  71568 25360 pts/2    S+   00:16   0:00 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/share/debconf/frontend /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst configure  root      6224  0.0  0.0  14632  1724 pts/2    S+   00:16   0:00 /bin/bash /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst configure  ubuntu    7387  0.0  0.0  11332   
[00:24] <yagoo> oh
[00:24] <yagoo> um..
[00:24] <yagoo> aa555, type "mount"
[00:24] <yagoo> aa555, what are ur mountpoints?
[00:24] <erika_> yagoo, yea it did. I got to install by removing the flash drive. At what point after loading the ubuntu minimal cd can you remove the flash media? After i got everything to install it gave me a black screen at boot
[00:25] <Noobuntu> How can I install ubuntu-desktop package without SOME dependencies? (for ex.: alacarte)?
[00:25] <aa555> yagoo: http://pastebin.com/8vks4V5d
[00:25] <yagoo> erika_, well i guess right when you go to the next boot menu.. (i would only unplug a usb when there's no activity.. don't unplug it while booting up-- eg: bios boot menu)
[00:26] <Psydoll> I have just downloaded VLC from the repositories and installed the restricted extras for VLC but it cant even open a .mp3 file i get the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/648669/ and yes i have synaptic closed and i have rebooted same problem, i also tried killing the pid.
[00:26] <yagoo> aa555, "aufs" .. are you on a rescue shell from a ubuntu cd?
[00:26] <aa555> im on an ubuntu live cd yagoo
[00:26] <nullwire> 789
[00:26] <erika_> yagoo, ok. i'm gonna try doing the installation again. this time i wont try setting up an encrypted lvm
[00:27] <zykotick9> Psydoll, have you tried rebooting?  If you have there is a method to remove the lock, if not, try rebooting (or closing any apt based programs)
[00:27] <yagoo> aa555, if you want to type "dpkg" it defaults to /var/lib/dpkg "/" is not your HDrive..
[00:27] <Psydoll> zykotick9: yes ive tried rebooting
[00:27] <yagoo> aa555, everything you did was useless unfortuntely from bad advice
[00:27] <aa555> im lost, and now i cant load ubuntu or win 7
[00:27] <aa555> wtf
[00:28] <aa555> whatever you and nit-wit drama just fucked my PC
[00:28] <Noobuntu> fix mbr
[00:28] <yagoo> aa555, it damaged nothing..
[00:28] <zykotick9> !aptlock | Psydoll
[00:28] <aa555> im stuck yagoo
[00:28] <yagoo> aa555, just try that boot-rescue cd i mentioned.. it's supposed to be easy to use..
[00:28] <yagoo> aa555,
[00:28] <yagoo> aa555, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:28] <h00k> !language | aa555
[00:29] <aa555> yagoo: do you understand what i have done already? i restareted withoutt he live cd and was greeted with a grub screen
[00:29] <yagoo> aa555, well i don't know if stage1/2 is on your harddrive..
[00:29] <yagoo> aa555, if it works then that's fine.. but it was only because grub primary code was inject into the mbr..
[00:29] <Blueleaf> i have a usb problem with ubuntu 10.10 but only with my blackberry, anyone want to take a crack at it?
[00:30] <yagoo> aa555, but all the other apt-get commands was pretty much useless..
[00:30] <aa555> nothing works i cant get to my operating systems
[00:30] <yagoo> aa555, are you able to see the boot-repair urls? (Yes or No)
[00:30] <aa555> Yes
[00:30] <yagoo> aa555, so try that..
[00:30] <yagoo> aa555, let me know..
[00:30] <iceroot> how is ubuntu using an encrypted /home? what is the key and where is it store?
[00:30] <aa555> yagoo ok...
[00:31] <afeijo> is it possible to replace my HD to a new one, same size, moving my ubuntu with no loss?
[00:31] <iceroot> afeijo: yes
[00:31] <rschnck> What command opens disk-utility? gnome-disk-utility doesn't work
[00:31] <afeijo> iceroot, how?
[00:32] <iceroot> afeijo: i would use dd for that sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdX   replace X e.g. with sda and sdb (danger that command can kill a lot if using wrong)
[00:32] <Psydoll> I got the following error after typing what the ubottu told me for the vlc problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/648674/
[00:32] <Foxx> Testtube1: I am back
[00:32] <Blueleaf> after reboot my system will see my blackberry as an external media but if i unplug it and plug it back in it will no longer see it.
[00:33] <iceroot> afeijo: if = inout-file, of=output-file
[00:33] <zykotick9> rschnck, is it installed?  "apt-cache policy gnome-disk-utility" if you aren't sure.
[00:33] <yugiohfan2011> Earlier I asked if there was a driver for my Dell V105 printer that Ubuntu could use, only to discover there was no such driver for my specific printer. If I were to install a generic printer driver, what driver would you recommend I use if I wanted to print text and graphics?
[00:34] <afeijo> iceroot, do I need to do it thru a livecd?
[00:34] <iceroot> afeijo: no
[00:34] <iceroot> afeijo: but your new drive has to be unmounted
[00:35] <afeijo> it is
[00:35] <iceroot> afeijo: but you have to be sure to set the correct drives (see  sudo fdisk -l)
[00:35] <iceroot> afeijo: i would guess its if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[00:36] <iceroot> afeijo: also its a good idea to run that in a screen session
[00:36] <Foxx> Terry: do you remember that line you had me run that got my system to recognize the card?
[00:37] <rschnck> zykotick9: I'm dead sure it's installed. It just bricked my damn SD card :(
[00:38] <zykotick9> rschnck, then i'm not sure what the executable path is then.  Best of luck.
[00:38] <[vali]> iceroot: does it work nowadays with the "new" fstab ? (using UUID)
[00:39] <boson12> Hi everyone!
[00:39] <Psydoll> i think tomorrow im going to go to ubuntu 11.04 or whatever it is natty been avoiding it for so long.
[00:39] <iceroot> [vali]: hm good point
[00:39] <boson12> I am failing to connect to an external monitor via VGA
[00:39]  * zykotick9 thinks LABELs are much easier then UUIDs in fstab
[00:40] <rschnck> zykotick9: On a different note, when I try to format it with DU I get: "Error reating partition table: helper exited with exit code: 1 Error calling fysnc(2) on /dev/mmcblk0: Input/output error"
[00:40] <rschnck> zykotick9: Any clue?
[00:40] <boson12> does anyone know how to fix my issue with connecting my ubuntu screen to an external monitor via VGA
[00:40] <Psydoll> boson12: did you go system --> pref --> monitors?
[00:40] <boson12> ?
[00:40] <iceroot> afeijo: maybe you have to edit the uuid in /etc/fstab on the new drive. you can get the new uuid with "sudo blkid /dev/sdb"
[00:40] <rschnck> I wanted to know the executable path for DU to try running it with gksu to see if that fixed it...
[00:40] <zykotick9> rschnck, mmcblk0 is this some sort of raid?
[00:40] <[vali]> I did that in the past (and then using cp -a, wich is WAY faster), but now you will need to redo fstab IIRC
[00:40] <iceroot> rschnck: which du
[00:40] <boson12> Psydoll, let me try it
[00:40] <rschnck> iceroot: gnome-disk-utility
[00:40] <rschnck> zykotick9: No, it's an SDHC 4GB card..
[00:41] <adam_> hello
[00:41] <rschnck> I bought it like 2 seconds ago.
[00:41] <iceroot> [vali]: cp is not copying the mbr and the partion-layout
[00:41] <Ehrman> hi everyone, how can I disable the CTL + Alt shortcut that automatically maximizes every window.  The shortcut is disabled in keyboard shortcuts, I don't know how it got activated.
[00:41] <zykotick9> rschnck, sorry i have no idea.  best of luck.
[00:41] <iceroot> rschnck: that is the command
[00:41] <iceroot> rschnck: "which du"
[00:41] <rschnck> iceroot: I don't know what you're asking then
[00:41] <adam_> Ehrman, just pressing Ctrl+Alt ??
[00:41] <Ehrman> yes
[00:41] <iceroot> rschnck: you asked about the path of the program du
[00:41] <zykotick9> iceroot, rschnck is looking for (Gnome) Disk Utility
[00:42] <[vali]> iceroot: just create partitions beforehand (then HDD size dont even matter), copy, chroot and grub-install
[00:42] <rschnck> zykotick9: I can open it via the application manager...I just wanted to try running it with gksu to see if running it as root fixes the problem.
[00:42] <iceroot> [vali]: i think dd is easier :)
[00:42] <[vali]> but lots of thing changed since last time I did something like that
[00:42] <adam_> Ehrman, do you try to assign another shortcut to the command maximize window ?
[00:42] <[vali]> and slower XD
[00:43] <zykotick9> rschnck, so Preferences / Main Menu - and see what path GDU is using.
[00:43] <iceroot> [vali]: not if setting uo the blocksize correctly
[00:43] <iceroot> [vali]: but with the default, yes its slower
[00:43] <Ehrman> I know that's not the official shortcut for maximizing windows, but suddenly I can't use any other shortcuts that use CTL + Alt because it maximizes the window in addition to executing the command, the maximize window shortcut already has another command assigned to it
[00:43] <somsip> Ehrman: is this set in CCSM - sometimes setting in there override keyboard shortcuts
[00:43] <Ehrman> what is ccsm?
[00:43] <adam_> Ehrman, compiz
[00:43] <Kereltis_> Quick question: I'm planing on building a budget pc, the mobo I'm looking at has a VIA audio codec, do VIA chipsets work with Ubuntu 11.04?
[00:43] <somsip> Ehrman: Compiz Something Settings Manager
[00:44] <adam_> Ehrman, compiz broke my box once :(
[00:44] <boson12> Psydoll: I had tried to fix my issue in "monitors" but failed
[00:44] <zykotick9> !ccsm
[00:44] <Ehrman> I didn't download anything called compiz
[00:44] <boson12> Psydoll: Both sides of the VGA cable have 15 pins
[00:45] <Ehrman> I did install orca
[00:45] <Psydoll> boson12: check that you have the latest drivers installed
[00:45] <boson12> Psydoll: Also, I have successfully connected to Windows 7 but cannot do it in Ubuntu
[00:45] <adam_> Ehrman, sure ? have a look in system or applications i think compiz is the only thing who could overload your shortcuts I think
[00:45] <Psydoll> boson12: at the top of your screen next to the speaker and date and time, do you see a little green icon there?
[00:45] <somsip> Ehrman: ok - it was worth a try. I had a similar thing before and CCSM was overriding shortcuts set elsewhere
[00:45] <Ehrman> I did I search in the unity search bar for compiz, nothing came up
[00:46] <Psydoll> boson12: do you have that icon?
[00:46] <boson12> Psydoll: No, I don't  see it; but I see a monitor icon in there
[00:46] <Ehrman> thanks somsip, I should reboot
[00:46] <adam_> Ehrman, which version of ubuntu ?
[00:46] <boson12> Psydoll: Is that the one I have to download/update?
[00:46] <Ehrman> 11.04
[00:46] <adam_> Ehrman, somsip seems to know your issue better than me
[00:46] <Psydoll> boson12: not sure what that one is open it and see what it says
[00:47] <Psydoll> boson12: do this open a terminal: and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without the comas
[00:47] <Ehrman> I'm going to reboot and see if that fixes it
[00:47] <boson12> Psydoll: I have found a bug
[00:48] <Psydoll> boson12: which one?
[00:48] <boson12> Psydoll: That bug did not let me download updates
[00:48] <Medjai> If you know a good graphics designer who knows how to use illustrator PM me [amsg]
[00:48] <Psydoll> boson12: are you able to download the updates now?
[00:49] <boson12> Psydoll: Could not initialize the package information
[00:49] <boson12> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[00:49] <boson12> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[00:49] <boson12> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[00:49] <FloodBot1> boson12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:49] <Psydoll> boson12: close synpatic if its open
[00:50] <Psydoll> boson12: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without the comas
[00:50] <afeijo> iceroot, my new caviar black HD got sda :) the main hd is now sdb
[00:50] <afeijo> dd is running
[00:50] <afeijo> iceroot, I'm running per partition, I do not want to copy all of them
[00:51] <Lewoco> What do I need to do to make nautilus automatically start when I pop in a USB stick?
[00:51] <boson12> Psydoll: Awesome, it's working (downloading)!
[00:51] <Psydoll> boson12: your welcome
[00:51] <adam_> afeijo, open the computer and switch the connectors no ?
[00:52] <adam_> it is the first time i come here without an issue with my ubuntu ! please tell me your problems !
[00:52] <boson12> Psydoll: I've forgotten the command to show you a snapshot of my terminal. What is it?
[00:53] <KM0201> adam_: tis a monumental day for you then.. :)
[00:53] <adam_> KM0201, yeah !
[00:53] <iceroot> afeijo: you also have to copy the mbr and the partiton-layout
[00:53] <Psydoll> boson12: just go applications -> accessories -> snapshot
[00:53] <tensorpudding> boson12: you can take a screenshot using the Take Screenshot tool
[00:53] <afeijo> adam_, why bother? it didn't affect my system. And it is sata, I could swap thru the BIOS
[00:53] <tensorpudding> boson12: you can configure it to take a screenshot of a single window
[00:53] <afeijo> iceroot, oops, indeed...
[00:53] <KM0201> boson12: if you want to show your terminal to us, it's easier to use a pastebin
[00:53] <KM0201> !pastebin | boson12
[00:54] <adam_> afeijo, indeed :) that's an option too lol
[00:54] <Psydoll> boson12: http://paste.ubuntu.com use that
[00:54] <afeijo> iceroot, the first partition I'm copying is my root, it hasn't the mbr and partition-layout?
[00:54] <iceroot> afeijo: but this should fix it "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda1 bs=512 count=1" when sda is the new drive. then you have the partion-layout + mbr there
[00:54] <iceroot> afeijo: you need the first 512 byte from the old drive
[00:54] <adam_> KM0201, why do you mock me ? you are an ubuntu master ? :)
[00:55] <iceroot> afeijo: thats what bs=512 is doing
[00:55] <KM0201> adam_: wasn't mocking you at all, it's a good thing the first time you come here to try and help, rather than be helped... i didn't mean that in a mocking manner at all.
[00:55] <iceroot> afeijo: after that you can copy single partitions
[00:55] <afeijo> iceroot, got it!! thanks a lot. I run it after I finish copying with dd?
[00:55] <afeijo> only afte rthat? oops
[00:56] <iceroot> afeijo: i would do it first
[00:56] <adam_> KM0201, yes i know i was joking too once i talked with a guy who used linux since 1998 i wondered if it was you
[00:56] <afeijo> so I need to cancel the current dd, ok
[00:56] <Mandrew> can i make my installed desktop into a live cd?
[00:56] <iceroot> afeijo: if you copy complete sdb to sda you also get the mbr + partionlayout
[00:56] <adam_> Mandrew, yes !! it is possible but it quite complex
[00:57] <afeijo> iceroot, one of my partitions is NTFS with over 500gb, no need to copy that
[00:57] <KM0201> adam_: ... i've been using it about that long.. but i don't recall ever chatting w/ you.. but im glad you've got everything going.
[00:57] <iceroot> afeijo: ok
[00:57] <Mandrew> ok with what software can i do that adam_ ?
[00:57] <afeijo> iceroot, the 512 byte should direct to my first linux partition, the root one right? so it is sdb2
[00:58] <zonyl> Hi All. I am not able to add icons to the panel.  I check Gconf "locked down" setting and that is not enable either.  Anyone else have an idea?
[00:58] <iceroot> afeijo: i would do the following , copy the first 512byte, then copy all partions you want, then delete the partions on the new drive you dont need and realocate the space (gparted)
[00:58] <iceroot> afeijo: no
[00:58] <itaylor57> KM0201, i only have 26 yrs unix/linux experience
[00:58] <iceroot> afeijo: the first 512byte of the drive, so sdb instead of sdb2
[00:58] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol freakin newbs.
[00:58] <iceroot> afeijo: not the first 512byte of a partition
[00:58] <adam_> Mandrew, not with a single software but a nightmare of multiple commands. A google search to a tutorial is appropriated in this case
[00:59] <afeijo> I mean, of=/dev/sda2
[00:59] <afeijo> if=/dev/sdb
[00:59] <iceroot> afeijo: no
[00:59] <adam_> Mandrew, the fact is that your system is completely loaded in the memory if you use a live cd
[00:59] <iceroot> afeijo: sdb is the drive, sda2 is a partition
[00:59] <thephased> why isn't there a grub.cfg file in /boot/grub on my usb ubuntu
[00:59] <afeijo> yes, my root will be at sda2, not sda1
[01:00] <thephased> is there any other way i can add noacpi to grub other than that grub.cfg file?
[01:00] <adam_> Mandrew, be sure you have enough to host your installation it would be a live dvd i think
[01:00] <iceroot> afeijo: is there a reason that it must be 2 and not 1 on the new drive?
[01:00] <godtrunks> can anyone tell me what's the command for ubuntu to check disk?
[01:00] <ibm_> Mandrew,  acually there is a program called .......remastersys....that will work on Debian based systems
[01:00] <Mandrew> so adam_  the start up disk creator wont cut it then?
[01:00] <aikInsaan> how do i add an application to startup in natty?
[01:00] <afeijo> iceroot, I partitioned the new drive to the first partition to be 500gb NTFS, so I can install win7 if needed
[01:01] <adam_> KM0201, so you come and help people here everyday ? do you know some people managing the ubuntuforums ?
[01:01] <KM0201> !startup | afeijo
[01:01] <somsip> !fsck | godtrunks
[01:01] <zonyl> godtrunks: fsck /dev/sdx
[01:01] <Mandrew> ibm_, the start up disk creator wont cut it then?
[01:01] <iceroot> afeijo: hm
[01:01] <KM0201> adam_: i'm here almost every day, yes, i don't hang out on the forums to often, so no.. i dont know anyone who manages the forums
[01:01] <godtrunks> it's working on debian aswell??
[01:01] <afeijo> iceroot, shall I change it to host ntfs last?
[01:01] <ibm_> Mandrew,   more likley end  up being a live DVD though
[01:01] <iceroot> afeijo: i dont think dd is the best way then if you change partition layout
[01:01] <brewster> what's the hg update command?
[01:02] <adam_> KM0201, i ask that to you because now to see the forum you absolutelity have to login !! it is a real nightmare
[01:02] <afeijo> iceroot, my old HD is set like that, ntfs as first part.
[01:02] <iceroot> afeijo: ah ok
[01:02] <ibm_> Mandrew,  could not say never tried
[01:02] <adam_> KM0201, maybe you know somebody who know somebody you see ?
[01:02] <afeijo> iceroot, but the partition sizes are not the same
[01:02] <iceroot> afeijo: so you dont change anything you just dont want to copy the old 500gb
[01:02] <zonyl> Anyone have an idea why gnome wont let me add icons to the panel?  Just started happening out of the blue.
[01:02] <aikInsaan> brewster, it updates your mercurial repository files to the latest rev
[01:02] <Mandrew> ibm_, ill be running it from a usb-stick 16 gb
[01:02] <KM0201> adam_: i have a forum account, but.. i don't post there to often... (i prefer helping "live" here in the channel) i probably have less 100 posts there
[01:02] <afeijo> iceroot, something like that
[01:02] <iceroot> afeijo: if they are not the same, dd is the wrong way
[01:02] <adam_> KM0201, you mean the direct functionality in ubuntu to create a startup cd ?
[01:02] <afeijo> ouch
[01:03] <brewster> aikInsaan: what is the actual command?
[01:03] <brewster> i can't remember what it was
[01:03] <aikInsaan> brewster, actual command to...?
[01:03] <iceroot> afeijo: easily spoken, dd is cling your drive/partitions with the exact same size
[01:03] <KM0201> adam_: ?..y ou went from asking me about the forums, to direct functionality oof ubuntu to create a startup cd... you lost me
[01:03] <iceroot> afeijo: cloning
[01:03] <brewster> update something you already have
[01:03] <adam_> KM0201, sorry :( nickname mistake
[01:04] <KM0201> adam_: well thats a relief, i was lost
[01:04] <adam_> Mandrew,  you mean the direct functionality in ubuntu to create a startup cd ?
[01:04] <aikInsaan> brewster, that's exactly the command        'hg update'
[01:04] <aikInsaan> brewster, unless you are trying to achieve something different
[01:04] <brewster> ok ty
[01:04] <ibm_> Mandrew,  have a look at Remastersys.............it will create the ISO on your HD    then you can Burn a CD/DVD  or use what ever program you wish to place it on a USB stick
[01:04] <KM0201> !remaster | Mandrew
[01:04] <adam_> KM0201, ok i said i was looking for the people managing the ubuntuforums to ask them why now you have to login to see posts
[01:04] <aikInsaan> brewster, np...give #mercurial a shout if stuck
[01:04] <Mandrew> adam_, yea that one too, i wonder it that software will be able to do the job too
[01:05] <KM0201> adam_: dunno, i'm sure they have their reasons though..
[01:06] <boson12> how may I connect to an external monitor/tv using a vga cable
[01:06] <zonyl> ah.. Killed gnome, reloaded and all is better now. Odd bug
[01:06] <adam_> Mandrew, i think it is only a startup disk in case grub is lost a sort of backup
[01:06] <boson12> the tv does not detect my computer
[01:06] <funnyfingers> the netboot for ubuntu 11.04 doesn't detect the NIC of a domU.  Works fine with the debian installer though.
[01:07] <adam_> KM0201, i suppose they have their reason so never mind i'll try to post directly on the forum to know more
[01:07] <boson12> how can I connect to an external monitor
[01:08] <Mandrew> ok tnx for the help adam_ , ibm_  and KM0201
[01:08] <Fsck-> http://youtube.com/watch?v=FIMO0eglEJA
[01:09] <adam_> Mandrew, I was not really helpful but you are welcome
[01:09] <Mandrew> but you were adam_
[01:09] <Neoncamouflage> If I'm still running the Python 2.6.6 that came with Ubuntu 10.10 and I want to upgrade to 2.7, how would I do so? Just download 2.7 or what?
[01:10] <Mandrew> i have learned something ;)
[01:10] <iceroot> Neoncamouflage: have a look at the backports
[01:10] <iceroot> !backports | Neoncamouflage
[01:10] <Neoncamouflage> Thank you
[01:11] <Mandrew> if i do a backup on / ill get the /home as well, right?
[01:11] <iceroot> Mandrew: depending how you do the backup and if /home is an extra partiton
[01:12] <Mandrew> iceroot, i made a swap, / and a /home when i installed the distro and they are all on the same disk
[01:12] <lawl> hey, why isn't pypy in the repos anymore?
[01:12] <iceroot> Mandrew: but different partitions
[01:13] <Mandrew> iceroot, sure
[01:13] <iceroot> Mandrew: so its depending how to do the backup
[01:13] <Mandrew> so i just do a backup on the / and one on the /home and ill be sett right?
[01:14] <iceroot> Mandrew: 1. why need a backup of / 2. what tool you use for the backup?
[01:15] <Mandrew> iceroot, i use  back in time
[01:15] <iceroot> Mandrew: sorry dont know that tool
[01:15] <Mandrew> iceroot, im going to fiddle with BURG to modify the grub
[01:16] <Mandrew> iceroot, so if the shit hits the fan i want to be safe
[01:16] <h00k> !language | Mandrew
[01:16] <Mandrew> h00k, its a saying
[01:16] <Guest79433> can anyone tell me a command for n900 to check disk?
[01:17] <obeyance> Ok, Im back and needing some guidance here.
[01:17] <Mandrew> h00k, its not swearing its a way of using the language
[01:17] <Corey> !seen cain
[01:17] <Corey> !seen maco
[01:17] <h00k> Mandrew: its not welcome here :)
[01:17] <Guest79433> a comand for debian
[01:18] <Guest79433> fsck is not working
[01:18] <yagoo> Guest10315, xyz10203456
[01:18] <obeyance> Unity seems to be not working, my graphics driver says its activated but not currently in use and i can only work in the normal gnome enviroment.
[01:18] <Neoncamouflage> I added the backport repository for 10.10, did apt-get update and upgrade, but it didn't update python. Are there further steps that I need to take?
[01:19] <h00k> Guest79433: Are you using Debian?
[01:19] <yagoo> Guest10315, wtf is a n900?
[01:19] <obeyance> My issue started when i updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and tried to turn on Desktop Cube.
[01:19] <Guest79433> the phone yes
[01:19] <yagoo> Guest79433, ^
[01:19] <Disguised> anyone use dwm that can answer a few questions
[01:19] <h00k> Guest79433: you should check in #debian for debian support, this is the channel for ubuntu support
[01:20] <dr_willis> !info dwm
[01:20] <dr_willis> a huge 180kB :)
[01:20]  * inFernet is away: I'm busy
[01:20] <Disguised> to change settings you change a c header file and recompile
[01:21] <Pici> !away > inFernet
[01:21] <yagoo> dwm sux
[01:22] <obeyance> I await patiently for someone to respond*
[01:22] <yagoo> (says http://dwm.suckless.org/ is a suckful site :)
[01:22] <Disguised> lol you got me
[01:22] <afeijo> iceroot, do you know other cmd that could do what I need?
[01:22]  * inFernet is back (gone 00:01:56)
[01:22] <inFernet> sorry
[01:23] <Disguised> i havent used it in over a year and am trying to force myself to remember how to get it how i like
[01:23] <Disguised> but gnome is too much for this x40 without a trackpad
[01:23] <Disguised> dwm fits it perfectly
[01:24] <aa555> who was helping me earlier?
[01:25] <aa555> i forget his username
[01:25] <aa555> >.<
[01:25] <yagoo> aa555, so it worked?
[01:25] <aa555> yagoo: it worked.
[01:26] <obeyance> I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 this morning. I tried to turn back on Desktop Cube and Rotate Desktop in compiz while in the newly updated unity environment. I screwed something up because evidently Unity and Cube dont work well together. I now can not use Unity, nor do i see a login option for unity. The graphics drivers i have installed for my Nvidia card (7900GS KO) are set to "Activated but not currently in use".
[01:26] <aa555> windows 7 showed up as well, didnt try to load it though
[01:26] <yagoo> aa555, register ur name so i can memoserv in case i go offline
[01:26] <yagoo> aa555, /msg nickserv help register
[01:26] <eoss> yahoo, im registered under this name
[01:27] <eoss> yagoo*
[01:27] <yagoo> oh
[01:28] <obeyance> Someone, anyone, wanna help tackle this problem?
[01:28] <Ademan> is there a utility that gives more useful information than 'file' does when using it on block devices? (I'd live for $AWESOMEUTIL /dev/sda1 to output ext3 )
[01:29] <Random832> Ademan: file - < /dev/sda1
[01:29] <obeyance> Is there another help channel?
[01:30] <Random832> /dev/stdin: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data (mounted or unclean), UUID=1cb35a8e-52bc-4f40-9ed4-ce7f8cf62710
[01:30] <smp4488> how can i see what driver is loaded for my touchscreen?
[01:30] <dr_willis> obeyance:  the activated but not in use is a bug. run the nvidia-0settings tool and see if it says they are in use...
[01:30] <Random832> Ademan: also blkid
[01:30] <obeyance> run that in terminal?
[01:31] <dr_willis> obeyance:  reset unity and compiz -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[01:31] <dr_willis> from my delicious.com/dr_willis links   :)
[01:31] <obeyance> I did the Gnome/Compiz one.
[01:31] <obeyance> Didnt do anything.
[01:32] <thephased> can anyone explain why I have no grub.cfg in ubuntu. Is it because I'm using a live usb? I'm trying to figure out how to add noacpi or acpi=off parameters to booting the kernel? I've gone through Ubuntu support docs and still can't figure out why grub.cfg isn't there. do i simply need to make one?
[01:32] <dr_willis> obeyance:  make a new user - see if they have a similer issue
[01:32] <obeyance> Made the screen flash but didnt make anything work.
[01:32] <obeyance> IDK how to make a new user.
[01:32] <dr_willis> obeyance:  'adduser billgates'
[01:32] <obeyance> in terminal?
[01:32] <dr_willis> err.. where else ? :)
[01:32] <obeyance> shrug*
[01:32] <pepee> hi. can someone update the gkrellm package? PLEASE
[01:32] <Northernen> Natty boots into black screen. I can boot if I change "quiet splash" with "nomodeset", but then I'll only be able to use classic Gnome. Is there another way around ths
[01:32]  * dr_willis has never figured where else  when people ask that... :)
[01:32] <Northernen> is?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Northernen:  once i install the actual nvidia drivers. i no longer need the nomodeset option
[01:33] <dr_willis> Northernen:  and unity works.
[01:33] <dr_willis> but that dosent do a lot of good on a live cd. :)
[01:33] <Northernen> thephased, you set those paramaters in /etc/default/grub.
[01:33] <dr_willis> obeyance:  so you used the command --> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[01:34] <dr_willis> then    unity --reset
[01:34] <thephased> oh ok. i was looking in /boot/grub
[01:34] <thephased> ill check there thanks.
[01:34] <obeyance> not unity but compiz and gnome
[01:34] <obeyance> Sec, im in gnome classic right now.
[01:34] <Northernen> dr_willis, I'm using ATI. I have installed the drivers. It sometimes boots correctly, and others times not.
[01:35] <dr_willis> Northernen:  I dont even look at machines with ati any more. :) so cant help..
[01:35] <cereal_> having an issue mounting a external hdd in fat 32 format. when i mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /mnt/usb it gives a error "cant read superblock" ... any ideas?
[01:35] <dr_willis> total Unity/compiz reset -> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[01:36] <Northernen> dr_willis, it came with my Acer laptop.
[01:36] <dr_willis> total Unity/compiz reset -> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1 && unity --reset && unity --reset-icons
[01:36] <obeyance> dr_willis, I dont know how to log in with the new gnome/unity as i did on first restart.
[01:36] <dr_willis> we should get that in a factoid and a link to -> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[01:36] <obeyance> All the options look like the previous versions (ie. 10.10, 10.04, 9.10)
[01:36] <dr_willis> obeyance:  at gdm login, you enter the name, and select ubuntu from the menu.
[01:36] <dr_willis> !classic
[01:37] <obeyance> Right, but... All of them look the same.
[01:37] <obeyance> Classic, Ubuntu, IceWM, all the same.
[01:38] <obeyance> Unless im missing something.
[01:38] <dr_willis> icewm gives you the same desktop?
[01:38] <obeyance> yes
[01:38] <dr_willis> You got somthing very wrong  then.
[01:38] <obeyance> Ive been telling you guys lol.
[01:38] <dr_willis> make a new user.. see if it works for them....
[01:39] <obeyance> I can run any pretty things either.
[01:39] <obeyance> I was going to check and see my FPS, but i cant get benchmark to work.
[01:39] <dr_willis> if new user has the same issues - that points to a system problem.. if a new user works.. then its a user config issue
[01:39] <obeyance> There is no option for extra effects either.
[01:40] <dr_willis> you are worrying about effects.. when you could have deeper problems.. :)
[01:41] <dr_willis> selecting icewm at the gdm login screen should give you a radically differnt 'desktop' :)
[01:41] <pepee> so, how/who do I request package updates?
[01:41] <dr_willis> pepee:  cant say ive ever seen one requested. :)
[01:42] <dr_willis> most people track down a PPA.
[01:42] <hwq001> creal_: You'll have to install the XFS utilities first - it should be 'apt-get install xfs_repair'
[01:43] <pepee> dr_willis, no ppa for this one
[01:43] <cereal_> wouldnt fsck.vfat work?
[01:44] <dr_willis> cereal_:  try it.. but it may not work.. may make it worse..
[01:44] <pepee> dr_willis, sometimes, there could be
[01:45] <cereal_> =/ all i want is to format the hdd and make it mountable again. even if it means losing the data stored on it
[01:45] <pepee> ... some major differences between versions
[01:45] <dr_willis> cereal_:  format it and get rid of all the data?  that makes it easier then...
[01:45] <dr_willis> cereal_: use fdisk, delete the partitons, remake them, reformat..
[01:45] <cereal_> ok il try that
[01:45] <Northernen> Is it possible to read extX partitions in Windows?
[01:46] <dr_willis> cereal_:  but IF the  mbr/first blocks are bad.. it may not be reformatable.. You could 'try' to fix it via zeroing the drive out with dd.
[01:46] <dr_willis> !ext3
[01:46] <dr_willis> Northernen:  in some cases - yes. :)
[01:47] <s_d_s_d_s> woot
[01:47] <s_d_s_d_s> hi
[01:47] <s_d_s_d_s> #ubuntu has 1000+ ppl
[01:47] <s_d_s_d_s> wow
[01:47] <dr_willis> s_d_s_d_s:  its a slow day/night
[01:48] <Guest51695> sigh
[01:48] <s_d_s_d_s> ;\
[01:48] <dr_willis> come in on release day - to see 3000+
[01:48] <s_d_s_d_s> 1457
[01:48] <Guest51695> Dr-Willis, This is obeyance. The issue is purely a user setting it seems because i am on the 11.04 desktop environment now with "billgates" =p
[01:48] <Northernen> dr_willis, 'some'?
[01:48] <neonflx> can i change unity defaults, just don't like it want to go back to the old interface
[01:48] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  well you could nuke all your problem users settings then. :)  or to be safer. move all the varios .gnome* and .config* dirs to some Subdir.
[01:49] <dr_willis> !classic | neonflx
[01:49] <neonflx> thanks
[01:49] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  you may need to use a file manager and root, to get to the problem users files..
[01:50] <neonflx> unity is not for me
[01:50] <Guest51695> Which is the easiest?
[01:50] <EmpoyLayaw> Hi folks! Are there any good alternatives to Audacity to date?
[01:50] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  depends on what you want to do..
[01:50] <Guest51695> Well, as long as it doesnt effect any driver updates or minor software installs... I would like to go back to defaults.
[01:50] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  you could just cd into the problem /home/username  and do a sudo mkdir BACKUPS    then sudo mv .* BACKUPS
[01:51] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  users home dirs files should never affect those things...
[01:51] <dr_willis> system stuff .. vs  .. user stuff. :)
[01:51] <Guest51695> k so nuking would be easy and fast?
[01:51] <Guest51695> Or would moving the files as backups be quicker?
[01:51] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  i do recall that (unsupported) ubuntu-tweak tool having some boxbuttons to reset gnome back to defaults.
[01:51] <dr_willis> Moveing them, then logging in.. would reset back to defaults
[01:52] <EmpoyLayaw> Hi folks! Are there any good alternatives to Audacity to date? Audacity got removed when I upgraded to Ubuntu 11
[01:52] <dr_willis> then if you ever need them. they would be in 'BACKUPS'
[01:52] <bkerensa> Please Help: My Update manager is borked it says I haven't checked for updates in 7 days and now a red exclaimation mark is on my gnome panel... I check daily and have all current updates!
[01:52] <dr_willis> !info audacity
[01:52] <Guest51695> Hm
[01:52] <dr_willis> its still in natty...
[01:52] <stevezau> Hi, I need to upgrade
[01:52] <Guest51695> Idk, i may be right there with neo on this one.'
[01:52] <Guest51695> Unity may not be for me.
[01:53] <aikInsaan> how do i change auto login in lubuntu?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Unity will hopefully kill off that silly cube...
[01:53] <Guest51695> It seems a bit like Google Chromium, a little to simple. I like lots of options =p.
[01:53] <cypha> any shortcut to change the command I entered last?
[01:53] <stevezau> Hi, I need to upgrade GnuTLS in natty 11.04 to a higher version as the current version has a bug.. any idea where i can get a .deb for this?
[01:53] <cypha> so it doesn't replace the filename that follows?
[01:53] <Guest51695> Well dr_willis  it did. Cause it screws up your system if you try to enable it =p
[01:53] <jaith> can anyone tell me how to determine which packages that I have installed are *main* and which are *universe*
[01:53] <dr_willis> cypha:  you mean in a bash terminal?
[01:53] <cypha> dr_willis, yes
[01:54] <dr_willis> cypha:  bash has a very full featured 'history'  functions..
[01:54] <Guest51695> Where do i find my filesystem on here?
[01:54] <dr_willis> ive barely used 1/20th of the features of the bash history stuff
[01:54] <EmpoyLayaw> dr_willis it is still in natty? when I use software center it says there are dependent libraries that need to be installed
[01:54] <dr_willis> ie: !! -> redo last command,, then it gets more complex from there.
[01:54] <cypha> dr_willis, cool, I'll look into it, thanks
[01:54] <dr_willis> EmpoyLayaw:  try a apt-get update, then upgradem and try reinstalling it..
[01:55] <dr_willis> http://www.talug.org/events/20030709/cmdline_history.html     Using Bash History
[01:55] <EmpoyLayaw> ok... i'll have to learn that command line thing, thanks for the tip
[01:55] <dr_willis> thats just a few things to do with bash hiustory
[01:56] <dr_willis> http://www.catonmat.net/download/bash-history-cheat-sheet.pdf
[01:56] <dr_willis> http://www.catonmat.net/blog/the-definitive-guide-to-bash-command-line-history/
[01:57] <dr_willis> There we go. :) that should covery most of bash history
[01:58] <Guest51695> dr_willis, Do you have a bookmark for backing up user files?
[01:59] <helloicanseeu> hi, how to set dpms for secondary monitor in dual monitor setup?
[02:00] <helloicanseeu> hi, how to set dpms for secondary monitor in dual monitor setup?
[02:00] <Guest51695> it says someone is using my nickname? Obeyance?
[02:00] <Guest51695> Im pretty much the only person in the world that uses that name.
[02:00] <Guest51695> =(
[02:00] <rww> Guest51695: ask #freenode
[02:00] <dunbar> do you have it registered?
[02:01] <Guest51695> No, but i was just in here with it 5 min ago.
[02:01] <helloicanseeu> hi, how to set dpms for secondary monitor in dual monitor setup?
[02:03] <helloicanseeu> #ubuntu-beginners
[02:03] <Northernen> !ram
[02:04] <b0nghitter> i have VLC playing my logitec quick cam, but the video is all weird. it's using v4l2, what can i use to change the contrast etc? using lucid, thanks
[02:04] <Guest51695> Sigh.
[02:04] <no-name-> anybody else having trouble with kega fusion? I open it and i just get a window with blank(black) screen
[02:04] <Guest51695> CD /home/username says no such dir.
[02:04] <Guest51695> Now im stuck in desktop cause i can .. or ls or cd out of it.
[02:04] <Guest51695> =(
[02:05] <th0r> b0nghitter: vlc has all those settings
[02:05] <Guest51695> fl
[02:05] <xangua> Guest51695: is your username......username¿
[02:05] <Guest51695> fml
[02:05] <Guest51695> no
[02:05] <b0nghitter> th0r im streaming to my desktop, so i cant change them in real time inside vlc
[02:05] <Guest51695> and i didnt put username i put my username
[02:05] <b0nghitter> i dont think?
[02:05] <xangua> Guest51695: then do it
[02:05] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  just copy them somewhere..
[02:05] <dr_willis> Guest51695:  you use your acutal username.. not 'username'
[02:05] <Guest51695> i know
[02:06] <Guest51695> i did
[02:06] <thephased> If I install Ubuntu 10.04 and choose to install updates, will any of those updates include a kernel update?
[02:06] <dr_willis> use tab completion and double check whats in home..
[02:06] <Guest51695> Thats what i said ^^
 and i didnt put username i put my username
[02:06] <dr_willis> Now is when knowing some bash basics would come in handy. :)
[02:06] <xangua> thephased: if you mean a major version release, no
[02:06] <thephased> I'm having problems with the kernel in 11.04
[02:06] <thephased> so I want to try 10.04
[02:06] <dr_willis> good night all.. bed time for the Dr.
[02:06] <Guest51695> 10.04 is cool.
[02:06] <th0r> b0nghitter: are you using vlc on the desktop?
[02:07] <KM0201> thephased: why do you think using10.04 will resolve the problem?
[02:07] <Guest51695> 11.04 has given me 12 hours of problems so far.
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest51695: most problems w/ 11.04, are unity related, not kernel related...
[02:07] <nocilis> hey, I don't suppose anyone would happen to know how to pipe output from stdout to espeak in such a way that the output will still be displayed but espeak will read it
[02:07] <Guest51695> I know
[02:07] <Guest51695> Thast what im having problems with
[02:07] <b0nghitter> th0r: vlc on both the ubuntu lucid server, and my xp desktop
[02:07] <KM0201> Guest51695: so your problem is pretty irrelevant to his.
[02:07] <Guest51695> Need to reset my user settings because its screwed up bad on my SU
[02:08] <thephased> KM0201: I'm getting "net: registered protocol family 1"
[02:08] <thephased> every time i boot
[02:08] <th0r> b0nghitter: Tools-Effects and Filters the Video Effects tab
[02:08] <Guest51695> Er, all i saw was him saying "I want to try 10.04 now"
[02:08] <KM0201> Guest51695: why were you using su anyway?
[02:08] <Guest51695> so i made a comment.
[02:08] <b0nghitter> th0r: cool ty i'll try
[02:08] <Guest51695> Um.
[02:08] <KM0201> Guest51695: then you should have read his whole comment.. he wants to try 10.04, becuase 11.04 is having kernel issues,  so i asked, why does he think 10.04 will fix the prob.
[02:08] <Guest51695> I guess its SU, i dunno... It was the only user i could log in under.
[02:08] <Guest51695> Is that not the same as "Admin" on winblows?
[02:09] <thephased> KM0201: doesn't 10.04 have an earlier kernel version?
[02:09] <KM0201> Guest51695: not really.
[02:09] <dsnyders> ncolis, there is a tee command that pipes an input stream to two output streams
[02:09] <KM0201> thephased: yes, but.. i'm trying to understand why you think you won't have this problem in an earlier kernel, thats all.. i'm not saying you won't, just trying to figure out your reasoning
[02:09] <nocilis> dsnyders looking into that, thanks
[02:10] <thephased> It doesn't hurt to try. Process of elimination
[02:10] <sgo11> hi, do anyone know how to remove a group in empathy (msn protocol). I tried many ways, it's still present in Edit Contact button after removal. thanks.
[02:10] <thephased> I've searched all around the web for what "net: registered protocol family 1"
[02:10] <thephased> actually means
[02:10] <thephased> everyone says to just boot acpi=off or maxcpus=1
[02:10] <Guest51695> Ok, but plz KM0201 dont brake the so far unblemished sanctity of this room for me... Most linux distro people i have met over the years are always uppity, rude and have a god complex. This one has been very nice and helpful. Dont be a dick and ruin it plz =(
[02:11] <KM0201> thephased: ok, thinking about this logically, since kernels to to "progress" rather than "regress"... why would you think it would work better in an earlier kernel, than a current one?... if anything, you would want to go to a newer one.
[02:11] <yagoo> dsnyders, ls -la | tee logging.txt .. and ls -la still displays
[02:11] <yagoo> nocilis, ls -la | tee logging.txt .. and ls -la still displays
[02:11] <U236Willy> Why can I go to my applications and select 'gtkpod' and it starts right up, However, neither Synaptic, dpkg, or apt-get remove see it as installed.  2nd quest.... how do i get rid of it.. I'd like to 'think' about compiling a new version.
[02:11] <KM0201> Guest51695: if you think i was being a dick, then that just shows your misunderstanding of what i said.
[02:11] <Northernen> How can one view .vmw and similar files in Linux?
[02:11] <nocilis> yagoo any way to redirect to two pipes?
[02:11] <DanaG> "registered protocol family" is an insignificant message.
[02:11] <Guest51695> You can be a dick without knowing your a dick. Just sayin =p
[02:11] <thephased> KM0201: Yeah kernels progress. Someone recommended me to try an earlier version
[02:11] <DanaG> thephased: what's the actual problem?
[02:12] <nocilis> or pipe the output but don't block it from showing yagoo
[02:12] <KM0201> Guest51695: guess the same thing applies to being clueless, huh?
[02:12] <DanaG> Is it booting to there and then hanging?
[02:12] <KM0201> DanaG: thats what i've been trying to get out of him.
[02:12] <Guest51695> Oh im clueless... I have been using ubuntu for a whole maybe 2 weeks.
[02:12] <thephased> yeah DanaG, just hangs
[02:12] <DanaG> Ah.
[02:12] <thephased> can i make it bypass the hang?
[02:12] <thephased> if i hit a key it will still boot
[02:12] <thephased> performance wise there isn't a problem with 11.04 for me
[02:12] <DanaG> try booting with "ignore_loglevel debug" instead of "quiet splash"?
[02:12] <kondores> can someone msg me in private window? just for test
[02:12] <KM0201> thephased: so if you hit a key, it bypasses the error, and continues booting?
[02:12] <thephased> yes at least for amd64
[02:12] <Northernen> How can one view .vmw and similar files in Linux?
[02:13] <thephased> ill try that DanaG: thanks
[02:13] <KM0201> Guest51695: that simply proves my point
[02:13] <kondores> tnx KM0201 :)
[02:13] <almoxarife> Northernen: what kind of file is it?
[02:13] <KM0201> kondores: np.. :)
[02:13] <xangua> Northernen: install restricted-extras or VLC
[02:13] <thephased> DanaG, if i boot without queit splash will that get rid of the splash screen all together?
[02:14] <DanaG> yeah.
[02:14] <nocilis> kk i'll try to figure it out later
[02:14] <DanaG> And "ignore_loglevel debug" makes sure it'll show all messages.
[02:14] <dsnyders> nocilis, I came in mid-thread.  what are you trying to acomplish
[02:14] <Northernen> xangua, VLC doesn't work.
[02:14] <Northernen> almoxarife, .mss2
[02:14] <thephased> oh so it won't make it stop hanging then DanaG?
[02:15] <xangua> Northernen: sorry , i though  windowsmediavideo :S
[02:15] <sam555> hello all!
[02:15] <sam555> how does one delete a read only file
[02:15] <sam555> i tried sudo rm <name of file>
[02:15] <sam555> and it wouldn't delete
[02:15] <xangua> Northernen: google says is a vmware file
[02:15] <DanaG> thephased: who knows... it might help the hang, but even if it doesn't, it'll let you see what it's doing before the hang.
[02:15] <dsnyders> sam555, mark it as writeable, then delete it.
[02:15] <thephased> oh alright
[02:15] <churly> hey guys, I'm curious what characters are possible when setting my local machines hostname.  letters of course, numbers I'm sure, but what else in the way of symbols?
[02:15] <sam555> thephased: gotcha!! thanks!
[02:16] <Northernen> xangua, what is a VMware file?
[02:16] <thephased> wrong guy i think sam555
[02:16] <KM0201> churly: pretty sure numbers, letters, and -
[02:16] <sam555> woops
[02:16] <sam555> i mean thanks dsnyders!
[02:16] <churly> KM0201: just the dash huh?  great to know, thanks
[02:16] <U236Willy> How do i remove a program that dpkg, and Synaptic says is not installed?
[02:16] <KM0201> churly: not saying "just the dash" i just know it *accepts* a dahs.
[02:16] <KM0201> *dash
[02:16] <th0r> U236Willy: how did you install it?
[02:16] <dsnyders> sam555, you may need to look into the chmod command to adjust the file.
[02:16] <Northernen> U236Willy, installed from source?
[02:16] <churly> KM0201: ok, thanks for clarifying.
[02:16] <KM0201> churly: in otherwords, it may very well accept other characters, i'm just not really sure.
[02:16] <U236Willy> i'm not sure
[02:17] <sam555> dsnyders: gotcha
[02:17] <Guest51695> But i pick up quick and my CST knowledge helps out a bit*
[02:17] <Guest51695> Forgot to hit enter before i walked out of the room =p
[02:17] <Northernen> sam555, chmod +w nameoffile. Then rm it.
[02:17] <U236Willy> i upgraded to 11.04 and I'm not sure how i added it in a previous vers.
[02:17] <xangua> Northernen: ok my google-fu sucks at the moment :S ignore all i said
[02:17] <sam555> dsnyders: and Northernen i renamed it to something simple, did chmod and the rm and it worked!
[02:17] <sam555> thanks again!
[02:18] <dsnyders> np
[02:18] <Northernen> sam555, no need to rename it. Linux have tab completion!
[02:18] <U236Willy> The program shows up in 'Applications' and loads but synaptic, dpkg and apt-get remove can't remove what they say doesn't exist.
[02:18] <sam555> Northernen: i know, but it wasn't working and I think that was part of why I was having issues with the deletion in the first place
[02:19] <obeyance> Oh haha
[02:19] <Northernen> xangua, back to plan Z then. Install Win7 through VMware and watch the movies there.
[02:19] <sgo11> Is there a channel for empathy? thanks.
[02:19] <obeyance> I didnt know it did this!
[02:19] <cereal_> dr_willis: just making sure i don't mess this up. so fdisk brings up this warning http://pastebin.com/FVN8dMxB should i continue?
[02:20] <obeyance> if you switch users on this OS it keeps you signed on to the Internet. Cool
[02:20] <sgo11> empathy is just stupid. unbelievable stupid. it can add groups, but can not remove groups....
[02:20] <shino__> hi, can i ask about hardware here?
[02:21] <dsnyders> shino__, probably.
[02:21] <dsnyders> shino__, you may be directed to a more appropriate chat group though.
[02:22] <adurodea> shino__: what about hardware
[02:22] <shino__> ok... i got a ddr3 motherboard
[02:23] <ministerdude> sudo wtf to get the latest FF?
[02:23] <xangua>  /join hardware shino__
[02:23] <shino__> ok
[02:23] <xangua> !fx5 | ministerdude
[02:23] <shino__> thanks xangua
[02:23] <xangua> #hardare *
[02:23] <obeyance> sgoll: Im not a tech, but i understand where your coming from. I wish i could remove users or block them... or something. But im fairly certain that Empathy just pulls packet info from the IM services server and they wont allow it to make changes to anything. That or the program itself is a very simple one.
[02:23] <ministerdude> is 11.5 still beta?
[02:23] <xangua> grr my hands sucks ths night :S
[02:23] <Gracenotes> hey, quick question. is there a way to add an apt deb archive, i.e. use both /var/cache/apt/archive and some other location on the filesystem?
[02:24] <Gracenotes> failing that, I can just copy things over and symlink
[02:25] <xxoxx> hi is there a way to find out which package a particular binary belongs to?
[02:25] <Gracenotes> try apt-file
[02:25] <xxoxx> thanks
[02:25] <Gracenotes> or googling :)
[02:25] <sgo11> obeyance, Empathy should be able to make changes. eg: I can add groups in empathy. I am just trying to remove the group which is added by empathy. failed.
[02:25] <cereal_> anyone else have any input on how i should format the drive?
[02:25] <jaith> can anyone tell me how to determine which packages that I have installed are *main* and which are *universe*
[02:25] <Northernen> jaith, Synaptic is probably your best bet.
[02:25] <jaith> actually, can anyone even see what I'm writing here?
[02:25] <sgo11> maybe I should switch back to pidgin.
[02:26] <jaith> i don't have any gui for this particular machine, it' s running on amazon ec2
[02:26] <jaith> Northernen: is that available via command line?
[02:26] <Northernen> jaith, Synaptic? I doubt it.
[02:26] <Gracenotes> jaith: try dpkg -l
[02:26] <obeyance> Can someone help me out and explain where the user files i need to set as backups and move from the home/user folder to reset my UI?
[02:27] <jaith> Gracenotes: i have tried dpkg -l but this doesn't indicate universe or main
[02:27] <Gracenotes> ..or -s is probably friendlier? dunno >.>
[02:27] <obeyance> Dr willis said it to me... but its since gone past the text buffer.
[02:27] <Gracenotes> hm no, doesn't work
[02:27] <adurodea> obeyance: probably the .<yourguihere> files
[02:27] <Gracenotes> jaith: I've found that info *somewhere* in the past. hmmmm
[02:27] <obeyance> I dont see anything like that.
[02:28] <jaith> Gracenotes:  would love to a) assess my installed packages and b) determine whether pkgs to-be-installed are in universe or main
[02:29] <liz-90> hi
[02:29] <jaith> Gracenotes:  i'm trying to harden a server.  it came with universe enabled in sources.list (instantiated in EC2 from an image)
[02:29] <liz-90> can anybody help me?
[02:29] <jaith> liz-90: just pop the question
[02:29] <Gracenotes> jaith: hm. apt-cache shows the unique filename
[02:29] <Gracenotes> of a package
[02:30] <Gracenotes> Filename: pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-installer_10.3.181.34ubuntu0.11.04.1_amd64.deb
[02:30] <Gracenotes> Filename: pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.7.4p4-5ubuntu7.1_amd64.deb
[02:30] <Gracenotes> Filename: pool/partner/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-jdk_6.26-1natty1_amd64.deb
[02:30] <Gracenotes> dunno if that can be harvested consistently
[02:31] <jaith> Gracenotes: hmmmmm....perhaps in combination with dpkg -l......
[02:31] <Gracenotes> what I remember using before was more low-level, but, I do these things on a need-to-know basis :)
[02:32] <jaith> what is the term for main/restricted/universe/multiverse ?
[02:32] <Gracenotes> so apt-cache dump shows *everything*
[02:32] <jaith> Gracenotes: yeah wow holey moley
[02:32] <U236Willy> you can harvest them all with apt-cache dump
[02:32] <Gracenotes> except, that is, install status, but you can get all installed packages through some command which.. is easy to google.
[02:33] <U236Willy> oop
[02:33] <jaith> dpkg -l is the command
[02:33] <Gracenotes> aah. forgot you can use that without an argument :)
[02:34] <U236Willy> What do you do if dpkg doesn't list a package via -l but loads from your application menu?
[02:35] <jaith> dpkg --get-selections also interesting
[02:35] <th0r> U236Willy: if you can't tell us how you installed the software we will not be able to tell you how to remove it
[02:35] <Gracenotes> uggh. I'm getting this error with apt-get
[02:35] <jrib> U236Willy: be more specific
[02:36] <LonelyDreamer> good evening. I'm having problems w/Ubuntu system maintenance. I know how to access FSlint, but it does not tell me what to do with the information I get.
[02:36] <U236Willy> th0r: I'd assume since it's gtkpod 1.0.0 which is in the repositories for Ubuntu... I'd say i must have used either synaptic or apt-get install
[02:36] <Gracenotes> Setting up python-gmenu (2.30.5-0ubuntu3) ...
[02:36] <Gracenotes> eval: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")
[02:36] <adubz> does apache2 on ubuntu have module support out of box
[02:36] <Gracenotes> I assume it tried to do some hacky parsing and didn't get the format it was anticipating
[02:36] <th0r> U236Willy: then reinstall it, which will put it in synpatic. After that you can remove it via synaptic
[02:37] <U236Willy> I did that
[02:37] <U236Willy> didn't work
[02:37] <obeyance> (<unknown>:4722): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_bus_watch_name: assertion `g_dbus_is_name (name)' failed
[02:37] <obeyance> (<unknown>:4722): GLib-GIO-CRITICAL **: g_dbus_connection_register_object: assertion `object_path != NULL && g_variant_is_object_path (object_path)' failed
[02:37] <smw> jaith, you want #ubuntu-server
[02:37] <obeyance> Is this bad?
[02:37] <obeyance> I reset unity via Unity --reset
[02:37] <obeyance> And thats what it stopped at.
[02:37] <Gracenotes> dbus is so painful :/
[02:38] <Gracenotes> and fragile :\
[02:38] <Gracenotes> it's nice that it works at all :/
[02:38] <LonelyDreamer> FSlint/system maintenance assistance
[02:38] <jaith> smw: thanks
[02:40] <U236Willy> hmmm... i suppose i could pipe apt-cache dump through grep with 'pod' and see what shows up..
[02:42] <Gracenotes> oh lol
[02:42] <Gracenotes> I figured out the problem
[02:42] <Gracenotes> I have the terrible crime of -H in my GREP_OPTIONS
[02:43] <LonelyDreamer> Anyone able to help with FSlint system maintenance? If i've gotten a reply, I haven't seen it.
[02:43] <Gracenotes> if you're gonna be relying on grep for parsing stuff, for god's sakes, get the options right
[02:43] <Gracenotes> woo. fixed.
[02:43] <pietro10> Hi. I'm trying to browse this Mac HDD I have here, but I'm getting "Permission denied" in my home directories's subdirectories. Mount reports: "/dev/sdc2 on /media/Macintosh HD type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)" What's going on and how do I fix it? THanks
[02:44] <xiaq> pietro10: How did you mount that Mac HDD?
[02:44] <pietro10> I put it in an enclosure and plugged it in; Ubuntu moutned automatically
[02:44] <LonelyDreamer> Thank you very much
[02:45] <Gracenotes> :/ not sure what fslint is
[02:45] <xiaq> Gracenotes: LonelyDreamer has left...
[02:45] <Gracenotes> yeah. he came and left.
[02:46] <Gracenotes> there is a world, or at least an irc channel, where people know about fslint
[02:46] <xiaq> pietro10: You're getting "Permission denied" in your home directory?
[02:46] <pietro10> on directories like Documents, Music
[02:46] <pietro10> I can get to the files that are immediately in the home directory
[02:47] <pietro10> and in subdirectories I made
[02:47] <xiaq> pietro10: But... shouldn't home directory be at /home
[02:47] <Gracenotes> pietro10: if you ls -ld Documents, what permissions do you see?
[02:47] <pietro10> drwx------ 1 501 501 174 2011-06-07 10:46 Documents/
[02:47] <pietro10> huh; that's odd
[02:47] <Gracenotes> ah
[02:47] <xiaq> pietro10: Something's gone wrong with the uid
[02:47] <Gracenotes> 501 has some meaning on whatever machine you made that directory one :)
[02:47] <Gracenotes> *on
[02:48] <pietro10> wouldn't another OS just ignore the first OS's user permissions?
[02:48] <Gracenotes> here, it doesn't. so you can chroot, or browse as root
[02:48] <Gracenotes> chroot is probably a bad idea if it's a mac, so nevermind
[02:48] <xiaq> pietro10: No, uid and gid remains
[02:48] <pietro10> oh
[02:48] <pietro10> eh
[02:48] <Gracenotes> pietro10: and furthermore, if you make stuff under linux, it will have your local uid attached
[02:48] <xiaq> pietro10: I know... you mean the home at your Mac not Ubuntu
[02:49] <pietro10> Gracenotes: yeah; but I was only interested in getting stuff out
[02:49] <xiaq> pietro10: Run sudo nautilus
[02:49] <pietro10> when I can get a system on my Mac's new HDD I should make a disk image of this one
[02:49] <Guest77943> i just installed ubuntu 11.04.  i seem to have lost the ability to buffer YouTube videos into /tmp.
[02:49] <pietro10> xiaq: yes; that's what I was thinking; but I'm going to use sudo sh because I want to run grep to find something
[02:49] <pietro10> but thanks
[02:50] <Guest77943> does anyone know how to get it back or where they're going now?
[02:50] <xiaq> pietro10: My preferred solution is to make the uid's on multiple machines match each other and do `chown -R /your/home/directory`
[02:50] <Gracenotes> pietro10: rsync has special options for preserving.. most file metadata
[02:50] <tameable> does Ubuntu have remote boot recovery ?
[02:51] <LonelyDreamer> Can anyone see this?
[02:51] <xiaq> LonelyDreamer: Haha guy you come again
[02:51] <lstarnes> LonelyDreamer: hello
[02:51] <Gracenotes> pietro10: perhaps you can remount with the options uid=501,gid=501
[02:51] <lstarnes> LonelyDreamer: yes, I can see it
[02:51] <LonelyDreamer> All right, so you could see me and I was being ignored. TY. Have a good night
[02:51] <xiaq> Gracenotes: Looks fancy!
[02:51] <pietro10> Gracenotes: later then; I'm only looking for one particular file that willl be copied to a flash drive anyway
[02:51] <pietro10> thanks
[02:51] <pietro10> something's wrong with his connection, I presume
[02:51] <xiaq> Poor LonelyDreamer...
[02:52] <Gracenotes> looks something like mount /media/Macintosh -t hfsplus -o remount,rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=501,gid=501
[02:52] <Gracenotes> ...something like that. might need tweaking.
[02:53] <pete_> hello
[02:53] <Gracenotes> and it'll probably only help with writing, not reading
[02:53] <Gracenotes> >.>
[02:53] <pete_> lol
[02:53] <xiaq> pete_: Hello
[02:54] <pete_> how are you
[02:54] <pete_> this is the first time ive used true irc chat
[02:54] <Gracenotes> we are swell. only swell people are allowed in this channel.
[02:54] <pete_> im unsure how it just kind of put me in this room by default, but ok! haha
[02:54] <pete_> cool beans grace.
[02:56] <pete_> this laptop was not mine originally, it was inherited
[02:56] <Gracenotes> I see you are using smuxi
[02:56] <Gracenotes> I have not heard of it >.>
[02:56] <pete_> so i reghosted with ubuntu linux maverick meerkat
[02:56] <pete_> lol me either, but it works
[02:57] <Gracenotes> I went with chatzilla for a long time, but now I'm using irssi over screen and it has not been disappoint.
[02:57] <Gracenotes> anywho. there are nice channels on freenode. try to find them all :o
[02:57] <pete_> chatzilla thats been around a while i reckon
[02:57] <JoAnneThrax> There're a boatload of Linux IRC clients.
[02:57] <pete_> yeah
[02:58]  * JoAnneThrax has just been sticking to XChat.
[02:58] <Gracenotes> heck, I wrote one once
[02:58] <pete_> yeah, i am quite a irc newbie
[02:58] <pete_> so bear with me
[02:58] <xiaq> pete_: Me too ;)
[02:58] <JoAnneThrax> I used IRCII from about 1991 to 2001
[02:58] <pete_> but i have used irc styled java chats extensively
[02:58] <pete_> paintball ones mainly
[02:59] <pete_> anyone have an idea how i ended up here by default?
[03:00] <pete_> could it be the previous owner of this laptop set it?
[03:00] <pete_> because his name is prominently displayed, an apparent channel name i presume
[03:00] <xiaq> pete_: Quite likely...
[03:00] <pete_> ah
[03:01] <pete_> cuz his name was nick and the header says nickserv
[03:01] <obeyance> What is zeitgeist for?
[03:01] <Snacknap> Hello everyone
[03:01] <xiaq> obeyance: A desktop search engine
[03:01] <xangua> and history too
[03:02] <m0n> indexing service isn't it?
[03:02] <xiaq> m0n: Yes
[03:02] <m0n> :)
[03:02] <pete_> hm
[03:02] <xiaq> m0n: I think I meant indexing when I said search ;)
[03:02] <pete_> gracenotes
[03:02] <pete_> that handle sounds oddly familiar...
[03:02] <xiaq> pete_: Try tab completion for other's nicks
[03:03] <pete_> ohhh
[03:03] <pete_> there we go
[03:03] <pete_> coincidence
[03:03] <pete_> nickserv
[03:03] <FloodBot1> pete_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <pete_> is to change nickname, not a reference to his name.
[03:03] <pete_> haha IM LEARNING. w00t
[03:04] <xiaq> pete_: Just enter "xi" and hit Tab you'll see my name plus a ":" or ","
[03:04] <pete_> hm?
[03:04] <pete_> ah ok
[03:04] <pete_> now its all beginning to make sense
[03:05] <m0n> so i've been having issues with my bluetooth on my Toshiba NB550D. I've found a "fix" for it, but the fix doesn't seem to stay. The issue is the toshiba folk have decided to change the id on the bluetooth module. So rather than be presented with an AR3011, it's being presented as a toshiba_bluetooth device.
[03:05] <pete_> back in some semi familiar territory now
[03:05]  * pete_ is a happy camper now. ^_^
[03:05] <m0n> Any way of actually making the change permanent so that the bluetooth module loads the ath3k drivers all the time?
[03:05] <xiaq> m0n: How do you change it temporarily?
[03:07] <smp4488> is there a way to start chromium fullscreen from the cli?
[03:07] <jaith> Gracenotes:  i think I'm getting close
[03:08] <jaith> Gracenotes: dpkg --get-selections | grep -oE '^[a-z\-]*\s'
[03:08] <jaith> need to pipe out put of that list of packages into "apt-cache policy"
[03:09] <m0n> kill all bluetooth processes, rmmod btusb, rmmod ath3k. echo "device id" > /sys/drivers/ath3k/new_id, then modprobe ath3k
[03:09] <m0n> once i restart it picks up the bluetooth module, happily works. But as soon as i restart it does it again
[03:09] <xiaq> m0n: A dirty quick fix is to put the commands in /etc/rc.local
[03:10] <m0n> i don't like dirty :P
[03:10] <xiaq> m0n: But it will work ;)
[03:11] <m0n> can't you blacklist the device id from the toshiba_bluetooth module?
[03:11] <xiaq> m0n: man modprobe.conf
[03:12] <xiaq> m0n: haven't looked it up myself, not sure if that can be done
[03:14] <Gracenotes> jaith: cool :o
[03:14] <pete_> i have returned
[03:15] <Gracenotes> jaith: though, some packages have numbers, [^\s] is possibly safer
[03:15] <basic123> halooo
[03:15] <obeyance> ah crapes
[03:15] <m0n> thanks xiaq i'll have a look
[03:15] <obeyance> My computers doing that Fullscreen bug again.
[03:16] <jen_> hello
[03:16] <adurodea> bastidrazor: hi
[03:16] <xiaq> m0n: A little cleaner solution is to blacklist ath3k from automatic loading and load it manually in /etc/rc.local
[03:16] <pete_> ^this
[03:16] <jen_> can someone by chance help me install my wacom disk?
[03:16] <m0n> hmmmmmmmmmmm it's just that the toshiba_bluetooth module is taking precedence over the ath3k module.
[03:17] <obeyance> How do i fix it again? I remember turnning off the hardware acceleration from a youtube video then turning off and back on another setting then reenabling the hardware acceleration from the yt video again and accepting.
[03:17] <m0n> as soon as the ath3k module is loaded it's detecting the card as per normal.
[03:17] <yagoo> jen_, wacom disk? thought they only make digitizer
[03:17] <obeyance> But i dont remember exactly.
[03:17] <jen_> digitizer? sorry dont know
[03:17] <m0n> so if i blacklist the toshiba_bluetooth module and force the ath3k module to load at start it SHOULD fix it right?
[03:17] <KM0201> jen_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[03:17] <jen_> ok :D
[03:17] <KM0201> doesn't look horribly difficult.
[03:18] <jen_> heh you never know with me ^_^"
[03:18] <KM0201> lol
[03:18] <obeyance> KM0201,  Do you know the issue and remedy i speak of?
[03:18] <KM0201> obeyance: i've not really been following this chat to much, was helping someone in another channel, lemme scroll up a bit.
[03:18] <pete_> oki
[03:18] <xiaq> m0n: Try it ;) I'm not having lots of kernel module problems so I'm in fact a newbie about that.
[03:18] <obeyance> Its just right up there maybe a page up.
[03:19] <jen_> will it matter what version of ubuntu I use?
[03:19] <jaith> Gracenotes: dpkg --get-selections | grep -oE '^[\.a-z0-9\-]+\s' | wc -l
[03:19] <xiaq> m0n: I guess it should.
[03:19] <jaith> oops...drop the wc-l
[03:19] <KM0201> obeyance: can't say i've ever dealt w/ that version before.
[03:19] <a_> saddad
[03:19] <jaith> Gracenotes: dpkg --get-selections | grep -oE '^[\.a-z0-9\-]+\s'
[03:19] <a_> fdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddr
[03:19] <KM0201> jen_: i would use "10.10 and newer".. since you're using something newer than 10.10.. :)
[03:20] <obeyance> That version?
[03:20] <obeyance> Do you know a different fix for the fullscreen video bug?
[03:21] <obeyance> I googled this and forum lurked for a while before i finally came to this and asked a few days ago.
[03:22] <obeyance> So im just for asking, maybe you coudl point me to an information point that i coudl search better though.
[03:22] <jen_> ok well I have something better...who thinks Gimp is better than wacom? Ifins anyone in here has a wacom tablet
[03:26] <Eber> Guys, is it possible to check which packages have upgrades but not install any of them with apt-get?
[03:26] <hoshi411> anyone know how to remove text from a string of filenames?
[03:26] <pete_> beasty
[03:26] <pete_> do i know you?
[03:26] <hoshi411> all my pics have the prefix thmb_ on the front
[03:26] <jen_> anyone have a wacom tablet in here?
[03:26] <hoshi411> I want to remove that prefix
[03:27] <hoshi411> for example
[03:27] <hoshi411> mv thmb_* .
[03:27] <hoshi411> or something like that
[03:27] <hoshi411> mv thmb_* ./
[03:27] <xiaq> hoshi411: rename
[03:27] <hoshi411> just want to remove the thmb_ prefix in their file names
[03:28] <xiaq> hoshi411: rename 's/^thmb_//' *
[03:28] <hoshi411> xiaq: wow that is really complicated....
[03:28] <hoshi411> xiaq: there's no simpler way to do it with mv
[03:28] <xiaq> hoshi411: Just regex...
[03:29] <hoshi411> xiaq: regex is tricky
[03:29] <robin0800> Eber, you can do sudo aptitude update and then sudo aptitude safe-upgrade but answer no to install
[03:29] <xiaq> hoshi411: I know in DOS you can ren thmb_* *
[03:30] <hoshi411> xiaq: exactly. that's so simple
[03:30] <hoshi411> xiaq: I can't mv thmb_* *
[03:31] <xiaq> hoshi411: That's because mv cannot rename multiple files...
[03:31] <xiaq> hoshi411: Also in *nix the wildcard expands in the shell
[03:32] <xiaq> hoshi411: Say you have "thmb_a foo" in you PWD
[03:32] <xiaq> `mv thmb_* *` would expand to `mv thmb_a foo thmb_a`
[03:32] <xiaq> hoshi411: That's incorrect of course
[03:32] <xiaq> hoshi411: Behavior of wildcards is up to the shell
[03:33] <xiaq> hoshi411: However in the DOS case the `ren` commands gives the wildcard a new meaning
[03:33] <em> ./w 3
[03:33] <xiaq> hoshi411: One could implement a DOS-like ren command in Linux
[03:34] <hoshi411> xiaq: thank you I think I understand now
[03:34] <xiaq> hoshi411: But then you'll have to type `ren 'thmb_*' '*'` to prevent the shell from expanding the *
[03:34] <xiaq> hoshi411: You're welcome ;)
[03:34] <hoshi411> xiaq: looks like I need some kind of rename app or script if I wanna do this myself in the future
[03:34] <xiaq> hoshi411: rename is just fine though the regex looks bad
[03:34] <smp4488> how do i configure x to launch a custom session i have in /usr/share/xsessions?
[03:35] <hoshi411> im pretty good with the terminal but not good with regex. I have always struggled with it
[03:35] <hoshi411> xiaq: by the way . your regex command did not work for some reason O_o
[03:35] <hoshi411> it executed in the terminal without any errors but my files have not been renamed O_0
[03:35] <xiaq> hoshi411: Hmm... let me see
[03:36] <hoshi411> xiaq: dont worry about it.  I will search for a renaming utility
[03:36] <hoshi411> I have to be able to do this myself in the future
[03:36] <hoshi411> I am just doing this for learning purpose mostly
[03:36] <hoshi411> but I do actually need to rename these files
[03:36] <xiaq> hoshi411: Alright but I guess you'll end up with rename :)
[03:36] <artyom> quit
[03:36] <dli> hoshi411, you want to rename thmb_* to * ?
[03:36] <obeyance> I fixxed it XM.
[03:36] <hoshi411> dli: yes
[03:36] <themonkeymixer> anybody having probs with banshee and 20k + media  library
[03:37] <dli> hoshi411, try perl-rename 'thmb_' '' *
[03:37] <hoshi411> dli: I want to get rid of the suffix on my files
[03:37] <Jordan_U> hoshi411: You mean prefix?
[03:38] <hoshi411> jordan: yes prefix
[03:38] <dli> hoshi411, or, for f in *;do mv "${f}" "$(echo $f|sed 's/^thmb_//')"
[03:38] <hoshi411> I want to get rid of a prefix
[03:38] <xiaq> dli: I remember rename is perl-rename in Ubuntu right?
[03:38] <lucas49> how i remove aditional language from natty?
[03:38] <lucas49> i only use pt_BR
[03:38] <hoshi411> dli xiax thanks
[03:38] <dli> xiaq, yes, perl-rename is handy with regex
[03:39] <kn100-nosound> I'm running ubuntu 10.10 (elementary os) and for some reason my sound doesn't work. It worked fine a few hours ago, and it's been known to stop working in ubuntu a few times before but a reboot generally fixed it, now it's not working at all
[03:39] <xiaq> lucas49: aptitude search "~i language-"
[03:39] <kn100-nosound> can anyone suggest anything
[03:39] <dli> lucas49, try localepurge, sudo apt-get install localepurge
[03:39] <lucas49> ok, i'll try
[03:39] <dli> hoshi411, also, some GUI file manager can do batch rename
[03:39] <Rei`ZzZz> kn100-nosound: Can only suggest replacing pulseaudio with esound
[03:40] <Rei`ZzZz> pulseaudio has ALWAYS been a nightmare for me
[03:40] <dli> kn100-nosound, my wild guess, pulseaudio trouble
[03:40] <Gracenotes> rename is perl-rename?
[03:40] <th0r> hoshi411: thunar, the xfce file manager, has a bulk rename that I think is a standalone app
[03:40] <Gracenotes> I've always used it at rename :P
[03:40] <hoshi411> dli: yes I've opted to install pyrenamer
[03:40] <xiaq> th0r: yes
[03:40] <kn100-nosound> dli, Rei`ZzZz heh, this is why everyone rides on pulseaudio...
[03:40] <mynotes> which wkhtmltopdf
[03:40] <mynotes> /home/dennis/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-head@rails1.9.2/bin/wkhtmltopdf .how to uninstall wkhtml?
[03:40] <Gracenotes> now, the one irritating thing is ack being at ack-grep, so, alias'd that one away
[03:40] <kn100-nosound> I would upgrade to natty but I love elementary too much
[03:41] <Rei`ZzZz> I havent used Linux for ages
[03:41] <Rei`ZzZz> Spend most of my time on OpenBSD and NetBSD these days
[03:41] <Rei`ZzZz> o/ anyway, must sleep
[03:41] <Rei`ZzZz> Recommend upgrading though
[03:41] <joeseph> So, If I set my ubuntu server to a static IP address, can I still access it by server name?
[03:43] <PythonPup> joeseph, That depend on whether your dns or hosts has the static IP and the hostname.
[03:44] <dli> joeseph, another less graceful manor would be /etc/hosts
[03:45] <joeseph> So, do routers generally work as local DNS servers?
[03:45] <PythonPup> joeseph, yes, generally
[03:47] <joeseph> PythonPup: Hmm.  Okay.  Some protocols are letting me use the server name and others aren't… Guess I'll look at some router configuration stuff...
[03:47] <hoshi411> all the rename utilities I found only rename visible files O_o
[03:47] <hoshi411> nevermind
[03:48] <bullgard4> [Natty] The DEB program package »wodim« is installed. Why does '~$ which wodim' produce no output?
[03:48] <thephased> can i safely rename the "ubuntu" live session account to something else?
[03:49] <Northernen> I'm trying to run a dual-monitor setup, with my laptop monitor being one of them. However, even though the external monitor supports up to 1900x1200, I can only choose up to 1024x768 resolution. How do I fix this?
[03:49] <PythonPup> joeseph, go to a command prompt and type    nslookup name     That will tell you if your basic name resolution understands name, where name is the name of the machine with a static IP.
[03:50] <PythonPup> bullgard4, The package name does not need to be the same as the executable inside it.
[03:50] <deven_> startup take 5-7min to start ubuntu 11.04 any solution to solve this?
[03:51] <PythonPup> Use synaptic, and look at the installed files in the wodim package, bullgard4
[03:51] <Jordan_U> thephased: What are you trying to accomplish?
[03:51] <deven_> plz help me
[03:52] <bullgard4> PythonPup: I know that. Before I posted here, I already looked into synaptic and found that there is installed a file /usr/bin/wodim.
[03:52] <bullgard4> PythonPup: So please answer my question.
[03:52] <dli> deven_, can you check timestamp in syslog?
[03:53] <chiapagringo> hello
[03:53] <deven_> dli how to check that
[03:53] <PythonPup> bullgard4, Perhaps /usr/bin is not on your path, or it is not marked as executable.
[03:54] <dli> deven_, have a look at your syslog first
[03:54] <bullgard4> thephased: I do not know a prcise answer. But I can recommend a workaround: Create a new user account.
[03:54] <yshi> i'm using a 32" 1080p lcd tv as my display for a new computer i just build, can anyone help me get the display recognized as 32" instead of 37" so i can use full resolution?
[03:54] <deven_> ok dli
[03:54] <lucas49> i have executed localepurge, and removed some locales, but:http://i.imgur.com/48Nha.png
[03:54] <lucas49> how i remove this chinese?
[03:54] <Gnea> !wifi
[03:55] <jaith> Gracenotes: dpkg --get-selections | grep -oE '^[+\.a-z0-9\-]+\s' | xargs apt-cache policy
[03:55] <dli> deven_, maybe, /var/log/boot
[03:55] <bullgard4> PythonPup: '~$ echo $PATH' includes /usr/bin/ .
[03:56] <lucas49> !ATI
[03:56] <thephased> did that. thanks bullgard4
[03:56] <dli> lucas49, select your language environment to other
[03:57] <yshi> using onboard video on ASUS P8Z68-V mobo
[03:57] <lucas49> dli: how?
[03:58] <dli> lucas49, if you use gdm etc, you can select language before login
[03:59] <bullgard4> PythonPup: '~$ ls -al /usr/bin/wodim; -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 406016  2010-12-03 10:05 /ustr/bin/wodim'
[04:00] <bullgard4> PythonPup: '~$ ls -al /usr/bin/wodim; -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 406016  2010-12-03 10:05 /usr/bin/wodim'
[04:00] <wifiwoes> hello
[04:00] <wifiwoes> can someone help me with q
[04:00] <wifiwoes> wifi
[04:01] <PythonPup> bullgard4, So, does it work if you run it by typing    /usr/bin/wodim
[04:01] <wifiwoes> it wont connect to open q
[04:01] <wifiwoes> widow
[04:01] <wifiwoes> open wifi
[04:02] <dli> wifiwoes, more details?
[04:03] <danie655> is there a list of computer that ubuntu 11.04 has been tested on and work perfect off the bat
[04:04] <bullgard4> PythonPup: '~$ /usr/bin/wodim; /usr/bin/wodim: No trace/wodim: No tracks specified. Need at least one. Usage: /usr/bin/wodim [options] track1...trackn; ...'
[04:04] <PythonPup> bullgard4, and please do a   which -a wodim
[04:04] <wifiwoes> dli,  low signal open wifi. itsees it and tries to connect but wont
[04:05] <bullgard4> PythonPup: '~$ which -a wodim; /usr/bin/wodim.'
[04:05] <dli> wifiwoes, after that, can you check messages in dmesg ?
[04:05] <wifiwoes> think its Ubuntu with the issue cuz I'm on it with the phone right now
[04:06] <wifiwoes> how do I open DS
[04:06] <wifiwoes> AG
[04:06] <wifiwoes> how do I open dsmsg?
[04:07] <PythonPup> bullgard4, So which -a wodim shows it and which wodim does not.  I can't explain that.
[04:07] <szal> what's that?
[04:07] <mynotes> how do you check if wkhtmltopdf  working
[04:07] <PythonPup> wifiwoes, just type dmesg at a terminal prompt
[04:07] <dli> wifiwoes, open a terminal, type the command dmesg
[04:07] <ooxi> hi, i have a server with two ip addresses (10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2) and i want to configure iptables to reject/drop all packages to port 1234 which do not address ip 10.0.0.1
[04:07] <ooxi> how can i configure that?
[04:07] <bullgard4> PythonPup: Thank you for your judgement.
[04:09] <dli> ooxi, iptables -I INPUT -d ! 10.0.0.1 -d 1234 -p all -j DROP
[04:09] <dli> ooxi, iptables -I INPUT -d ! 10.0.0.1 -dport 1234 -p all -j DROP
[04:10] <ooxi> dli, thanks :-)
[04:10] <thephased> quick question, i've been using a ubuntu live-usb. if i want to install ubuntu to my hd using my usb stick inside ubuntu itself, will it be a default OS install or will it include the changes I've made to the live-usb through persistence such as added drivers and user settings?
[04:10] <danie655> is there a list of computer that ubuntu 11.04 has been tested on and work perfect off the bat
[04:11] <bullgard4> PythonPup: Surprise! I did again '~$ which wodim'. Now it returns '/usr/bin/wodim'.
[04:11] <PythonPup> danie655, Almost every computer I own would be on such a list.
[04:12] <danie655> PythonPup, well on my dell vostro 1000 it wifi didnt work off the bat
[04:13] <PythonPup> danie655, There is a list at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware.  wifi is  sometimes a weak spot, because some wifi vendors don't release enough information for drivers to be written.  It is generally easy to fix, though.
[04:15] <PythonPup> danie655, Is wireless N important to you, or would wireless G suffice?
[04:15] <dli> danie655, I will need kernel-3.0 to get my wifi card supported by kernel
[04:15] <danie655> PythonPup, idk
[04:18] <jen_> hey does anyone know how to get tinychat to work from ubuntu?
[04:19] <PythonPup> danie655, There seems to be a binary, non-open driver for the Dell 1395 card which I believe you have.  If you can connect to the internet with a wired connection, you should be able to install and activate it.  Personally, I would get another NIC, since I only want hardware that uses open drivers, but that is my choice and you can make your own.
[04:21] <PythonPup> danie655, connect with a wired ethernet connection, go to System/Administration/Hardware drivers and the rest should be obvious and it should work fine.
[04:22] <jen_> anyone know how to fix this bug?
[04:22] <jen_> not very important but I sure would like to fix it
[04:23] <ObrienDave> sorry jen, don't know enough about linux to help
[04:23] <PythonPup> jen_, you have not mentioned a bug that I can see a reference to.
[04:23] <jen_> its ok ^_^ just wondered if anyone knew how to get rid of this dumb thing >:(
[04:23] <Product_> Hello.
[04:23] <jen_> reference? try getting on tinychat/roxas
[04:23] <Product_> Anyone able to help me please ?
[04:23] <jen_> err tinychat.com/roxas   I mean
[04:24] <jen_> it will only let me have my mic but not my webcam, and my cam works just fine
[04:25] <glebihan> Product_, just ask your question
[04:25] <em> does anyone else notice that when you write something in openoffice.org and then export as pdf, when you print the pdf it's all very small?
[04:25] <PythonPup> jen_ tinychat seems to be an obnoxious site that expects you to be slow enough to install Adobe Flash.  So, I guess the bug is their poor design.  I suggest wring them a note.
[04:25] <Product_> Ok, I want to ask something that isn't ubuntu
[04:26] <jen_> ok I shall! thats a good idea X_X why didnt I think of that??
[04:26] <Product_> It's about CentOS, I even couldn't get help in CentOS section.
[04:26] <glebihan> Product_, in that case you're probably in the wrong place...
[04:26] <almoxarife> cent?
[04:26] <Product_> Yes, but in CentOS I couldn't get the good help :(
[04:26] <almoxarife> penny?
[04:26] <Product_> They said something about -uname something like that, and dumped me.
[04:27] <Product_> Onli akio helped me but now he is afk.
[04:27] <Product_> It's very simple what I need :)
[04:27] <Jordan_U> Product_: This channel only supports Ubuntu. Try ##linux.
[04:27] <Armageddon> When a friend of mine boots the livecd to install Ubuntu or Kubuntu, she only gets a black screen
[04:27] <Product_> :( Thanks
[04:27] <nkh1> Hello, I have patch and googled how to using them, I can't figure out when should I use patch -p1 or -p0 etc. what is this number and depends on what!? :-/
[04:27] <PythonPup> Armageddon, She may have a video card not compatible with the live CD.
[04:28] <dli> Armageddon, try to boot with safe graphics option, F4?
[04:28] <ObrienDave> i'm running live CD of Xubuntu
[04:28] <Product_> Every channel I go to sends me to onother channel.
[04:28] <Armageddon> I know that
[04:28] <Product_> Thanks guys.
[04:28] <Armageddon> dli, how do you get the menu bar ?
[04:28] <PythonPup> Armageddon, Is her goal to install Ubuntu, or is she trying to demo it?
[04:28] <Armageddon> I know all that, but she can't seem to be able to get the menu where she should enable that
[04:28] <Armageddon> PythonPup, install it
[04:28] <Armageddon> she used wubi for a long time and she wants to fix it on the hard drive properly now
[04:28] <mcurran> Is there a way to ignore source packages for linux-image without removing deb src repos from sources.list?
[04:29] <dli> Armageddon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[04:29] <mcurran> I have a script that does all my updates and was going to replace dist-upgrade or aptitude upgrade with "safe-upgrade" but wasn't sure if I'll get everything else except just linux-image.
[04:29] <PythonPup> Armageddon, I suggest you have her download the alternate install CD.  I have used it on a variety of maches where the Live CD had problems.  You get the same OS, and the real Ubuntu is much more likely to support her video than the Live CD.
[04:29] <nkh1> I have patch and googled how to using them, I can't figure out when should I use patch -p1 or -p0 etc. what is this number and depends on what!?
[04:30] <Armageddon> PythonPup, alright
[04:30] <m0n> Product_, i'm happy to help if i know anything about it... drop me a pm
[04:30] <Product_> Thanks !!!
[04:31] <Product_> Thanks very much !
[04:31] <Armageddon> PythonPup, I'll check it out...
[04:31] <Armageddon> thanks
[04:31] <m0n> don't thank me yet.... i might not be able to help... lol
[04:33] <nkh1> !patch
[04:34] <vivekimsit> Hii folks :)
[04:34] <Product_> m0n I sent you a PM
[04:34] <vivekimsit> Can i recover the data in ubuntu.?if yes then how?
[04:34] <glebihan> nkh1, have you lokked at "man patch"
[04:34] <dli> vivekimsit, elaborate
[04:35] <vivekimsit> dli:actually i did shift+del accidently and want my data back now..is this possible?
[04:36] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, What program were you running.  You need to tell us more.
[04:37] <nkh1> glebihan: yes but not figured out yet :-"
[04:37] <soulis77-SE> I got the following attempt in my access.log file: [20/Jul/2011:22:48:44 +0200] "GET //phpmyadmin/ HTTP/1.1" 200 3672 "-" "Made by ZmEu @ WhiteHat Team - www.whitehat.ro"
[04:38] <vivekimsit> PythonPup:it was not program, it was just a simple directory..
[04:38] <dli> vivekimsit, if not found in trashbin, no easy way to undelete
[04:38] <soulis77-SE> In total 12 attempts. Should I care?
[04:38] <somsip> soulis77-SE: If there is no file there, don't worry about it. They're just fishing for open files
[04:38] <vivekimsit> dli: that is waht i want to know..can i do it?
[04:39] <glebihan> nkh1, the role of the "-p" option" is explained in there : it is used to modify the names of the files in the patch, by removing a certain number of leading slashes
[04:39] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, It was a program.  Maybe it was Nautilus.  Are you running Gnome or Unity?
[04:39] <somsip> soulis77-SE: But that's a 200, so your phpMyAdmin is open. Consider .htpasswd in a sub dir off root
[04:39] <dli> vivekimsit, remember unix doesn't rely on magic 'undelete', but the unix 101: backup
[04:39] <nkh1> glebihan: Ow and that problem with repos fixed, the problem was with apt or dpkg itself , I had a new installation without formatting previous drive and the new installation recognized repos like file:/media/deb.... , ignoring but installing , the previous installation did not install any thing from there.
[04:39] <glebihan> nkh1, -p0 keeps the full path, -p1 removes 1 leading slash, -p2 removes 2...
[04:40] <nkh1> glebihan: Owwww Thanks !
[04:40] <glebihan> nkh1, great
[04:40] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: actually i am using ubuntu and it works on nautilus
[04:40] <nkh1> glebihan: Seems I'm getting tired I catn't think much :|
[04:40] <soulis77-SE> somsip: all other attempts are a 404. Is that good?
[04:40] <nkh1> glebihan: should take a rest :-<
[04:41] <nkh1> glebihan: Thanks again :)
[04:41] <glebihan> nkh1, have a nice sleep then !
[04:41] <glebihan> nkh1, you're welcome
[04:41] <nkh1> glebihan: ;)
[04:41] <PythonPup> OK, so you selected a file in nautilus and presses shift-Del to permanently delete it and then said yes.  Is that all what you did?
[04:41] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, OK, so you selected a file in nautilus and presses shift-Del to permanently delete it and then said yes.  Is that all what you did?
[04:41] <somsip> soulis77-SE: it's safer :) Aparently some people just fish for xposed files. So don't expose any
[04:42] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: yes :(
[04:42] <babu> what's the diff bn updating ubuntu 10.04 and upgrading to newer version
[04:43] <soulis77-SE> somsip: yeah I got hacked with like 200 attempts one week ago. Not I tried making it safer but I'll add the .ht...   Thanks for the help.
[04:43] <PythonPup> The simple answer is that you can't recover it at this point.  The real answer is that the data is likely on the hard drive and if it is valuable enough, it can be recovered.
[04:43] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: yaa, i need to recover it somehow
[04:44] <babu> when i updating , it updates all packages n when i 'm upgrading it installs newer pkg...tite?
[04:44] <PythonPup> babu, un update just gets you the fixes for 10.04.  An upgrade takes you to 10.10, which is a newer version.
[04:44] <somsip> soulis77-SE: I used to chmod 700 /var/www/tools and keep things  like phpMyAdmin in there, and only chomd 770 when I needed access. But I get the idea htpasswd is secure
[04:44] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, Is your hard drive encrypted?  Mine are, so it is certainly possible.
[04:44] <babu> PythonPup, i don't get you..... you mean there will be the diff in system env
[04:45] <babu> babu:
[04:45] <vivekimsit> PythonPup:no!
[04:46] <PythonPup> babu, After an update, your version will still be 10.04.  Maybe it will be 10.04.2,, but it is still basically 10.04.  The kernel will still be 2.6.32. something.
[04:46] <soulis77-SE> somsip: thanks, I'll consider that too. Will not be using the phpMyadmin when the site is finished so then I could chmod or "remove the virtual link".
[04:47] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, If the data is really important.  power off the computer at once.  Don't shut down.  Power it off.  Then use a disk scanner which you run from a boot CD or boot USB disk and search the disk for the data.
[04:48] <madhu> I have doubt on grub
[04:51] <vivekimsit> madhu:ok
[04:53] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: but that is possible only for the open files , i think ?
[04:53] <PythonPup> Your question does not scan, vivekimsit
[04:54] <lumos> hi if i have this line in a file and want to add multiple arguments how would i $fontPath = "";
[04:55] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: probably there is not any sol. i think
[04:55] <PythonPup> lumos, There is no answer for all programs.
[04:55] <lumos> PythonPup, how would i find the answer depending on the program
[04:55] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, It is not easy to recover deleted data.  I have done it.  If it is on the disk and worth the trouble, it can be retrieved.
[04:56] <lumos> PythonPup, i want to add these 4 paths $fontPath = "";
[04:56] <lumos> whoops
[04:56] <lumos> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ ,
[04:56] <lumos> /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/
[04:56] <lumos>  ,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/,
[04:56] <lumos>  /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/
[04:56] <FloodBot1> lumos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, But, it is a fair amount of work and something you need to research before proceeding.  But, if you truly think you might do it, it is imperitive that the mache be powered off.  The longer it runs, the more likely the data will be overwritten.  That space is marked as free now, and the OS may use it.
[04:58] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: is there not any other way round because i have not the live CD
[04:58] <lumos> PythonPup, plz help
[04:58] <PythonPup> lumos, the issue is not the set of fonts.  It is what programs config file you are looking at.  You will need to research that program to see what it expects.
[04:59] <lumos> PythonPup, thats fine, i just need to know the syntax
[04:59] <lumos> i cant program
[04:59] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, There is no simple way that I know of to accomplish what you want.  In the old DOS days with smaller drives, there was a way.  But, not today.
[05:00] <lumos> vivekimsit, what are you trying to do
[05:00] <lumos> i am curious
[05:00] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: thknx for ur concern and support
[05:01] <lumos> cmon PythonPup
[05:01] <lumos> i heard you are really smart
[05:02] <vivekimsit> PythonPup: i hv decided to do it now..can u tell me the detailed procedure?
[05:04] <PythonPup> vivekimsit, No.  It would take more time than I have.  I hope I gave you enough info to start your research, though.
[05:04] <lumos> PythonPup, what did he want to do
[05:05] <PythonPup> He wants to recover deleted data from his hard drive.  Truly deleted, not just in the trash.
[05:05] <PythonPup> Have a good night.
[05:05] <andantino> does anyone ever have problems with ubuntu concerning headphones and speakers....sometimes when i pull my headphones out the speakers have no sound, other times my speakers will output while i have my headphones plugged in
[05:05] <andantino> and once in a while it works like it should
[05:05] <zosky> hi yall
[05:06] <dli> andantino, I think it's probably hardware
[05:07] <andantino> or hardware support more likely
[05:07] <andantino> no problem on windows
[05:07] <andantino> the odd thing is that it the problems are not consistent
[05:07] <somsip> vivekimsit: I had success with this http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[05:08] <zosky> we have an  8TB ubuntu 10.04 server w/ 10x1TB drives in mdadm (softWare) raid5. all that and we need more. some help please...the sweat spot ($/GB) is no longer 1TB drives. we would like to have 1 giant pool rather array1 for 1TB drives and array2 for 2TB drives... any suggestions, please ???
[05:09] <TrentonAdams> I'm unable to change my language in System -> Administration -> Language support.  No matter how many times I drag the language to the drop, it never sticks.  Ideas?
[05:09] <andantino> you might have to change it as admin
[05:10] <andantino> ?
[05:10] <andantino> as root i mean
[05:10] <Noah> Will ubuntu assist me in receiving a labotomy?
[05:11] <dli> zosky, suggestion for what?
[05:11] <TrentonAdams> andantino: How do I do that?
[05:11] <andantino> hmmm
[05:11] <andantino> gksudo i think
[05:11] <andantino> one sec
[05:11] <vivekimsit> somsip:thknx so, hv u sed it?
[05:12] <TrentonAdams> andantino: sure, gksudo, but what command?
[05:12] <vivekimsit> hv u used it?
[05:12] <andantino> gksudo language support?
[05:12] <andantino> it will open language support
[05:13] <somsip> vivekimsit: yeah - I rm -rf * in a directory by accident. Made the mistake of not turning computer off straight away, but did it quite quikly. Used spare PC to find this software. Booted to live CD, downloaded and compiled it, and ran it. Got most of the files back
[05:13] <andantino> so you can do it in there. not at terminal
[05:13] <andantino> you just have to type gksudo language support
[05:13] <andantino> and then make the change
[05:13] <andantino> and hopefully it sticks for ya
[05:14] <TrentonAdams> andantino: "language support" is not a valid command
[05:14] <andantino> gksudo language support
[05:14] <andantino> works for me
[05:15] <TrentonAdams> andantino: it says "starting administration" and then quits
[05:15] <andantino> hmmm
[05:16] <andantino> did it prompt you for your password
[05:16] <TrentonAdams> andantino: no, and '--debug' shows that no password prompt found.
[05:16] <andantino> hmmm works for me
[05:16] <TrentonAdams> andantino: can you "set | grep -i pass" for me?  Maybe you have an environment set?
[05:17] <TrentonAdams> andantino: I'm using ubuntu classic, not the new one.
[05:17] <andantino> i use classic
[05:17] <andantino> well i use 11.04 with classic desktop
[05:18] <andantino> im a noob trenton so
[05:18] <andantino> im prolly not the best person to ask
[05:19] <TrentonAdams> andantino: no problem, thanks for attempting. :D
[05:19] <TrentonAdams> andantino: I'm re-installing french, we'll see if that work.s
[05:19] <TrentonAdams> andantino: I did get gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector going
[05:28] <robinbahadur> andantino:why don't you try locale and Lang through terminal and restart the system
[05:28] <andantino> thats trenton
[05:29] <thephased> does anyone know how to install nvidia xconfig alone?
[05:29] <wookienz> guys, i need some help with fglrx. I have tried to remove all the ati dirvers and revert to default open source dirvers. Is fglrx apart of this? in the logs it says it cant ifnd the gflrx driver. what am i missing?
[05:29] <thephased> i did it before in ubuntu, i just forgot the apt-get line
[05:29] <thephased> i tried apt-get install nvidia-xconfig
[05:29] <thephased> didn't work
[05:31] <vivekimsit> thephased: the correct syntax is : sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig not i tried
[05:31] <slack-m> #pugbot NEEDS 3 TO START NOW! Also check out the newly re-designed website: http://pugbot.com/
[05:31] <thephased> yeah i used sudo
[05:31] <zykotick9> thephased, nvidia-xconfig is a separate package on Debian, but I believe on Ubuntu it's always been bundled with the main driver or glx package (probably the latter)
[05:32] <thephased> ok. yeah would i have to do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:32] <thephased> i don't need the driver. i already installed the driver
[05:33] <thephased> ill just try nvidia-current
[05:33] <thephased> hopefully it doesn't mess things up
[05:33] <zykotick9> thephased, if you've manually installed the driver from nvidia.com, see if they have a download for nvidia-xconfig.  Mixing ubuntu & nvidia.com is probably not wise.
[05:33] <thephased> hm shit
[05:33] <USMarine> Could anyone here find kindness in their heart to help out a complete and total noob?
[05:33] <USMarine> I will love you forever.
[05:33] <bazhang> USMarine, ask the channel
[05:34] <bazhang> thephased, no cursing
[05:34] <thephased> darn =)
[05:35] <thephased> zykotick9: xconfig works now
[05:35] <zeroedout> usmarine ask away
[05:35] <zykotick9> thephased, how did you install it?
[05:35] <vee> hello,  everytime i try to boot  from  complete shutdown,  or hard boot  I get hung  in verticle  white/black screen,  I tried the  terminal cmd  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic-pae that did not work so I tried  cmd  sudo tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sda1
[05:35] <thephased> just did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:36] <thephased> then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Vee: which video chip do you use?
[05:37] <USMarine> Well I installed Ubuntu for the first time ever. I was like "oh wow! This is awesome! I feel like a real geek now!" And then I pulled up Firefox and was like "Wtf man?" It took like 10 minutes to load a page. Except Google search results, which were instant. Then everytime Linux tried to update 189 packages it would freeze and I would have to restart the computer. Now the network will not connect ever. No matter what.
[05:37] <nexus> Can anyone please help me installing .net framework on ubuntu 11.04
[05:37] <vee> it is  gigabyte  series 965
[05:37] <USMarine> Sorry for the long thing guys.
[05:38] <nexus> I am stuck with installation of .net framework 4. Everything appears to be fine with wine but the framework is not installed.
[05:38] <vee> i mean  gigabyte mother board  chipset  series  965
[05:39] <zykotick9> nexus, i'm pretty sure .net framework is in the winetricks program.  You might want to try #winehq for specific help however.
[05:39] <newbnewb> Hi, does anyone have time to help me resolve somewhat of an emergency?
[05:40] <SwedeMike> !ask | newbnewb
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Vee: ok i'll assume its some onboard Intel thing. Try using the bootoption: nomodeset
[05:40] <newbnewb> oh, sorry. well, I have this Acer Aspire ONE that I had connected to an external hp monitor
[05:41] <newbnewb> I was working on some financial stuff that I need to save
[05:41] <newbnewb> I was moving the laptop to a different location, and I changed the monitor settings to "turn off external, and turn on laptop screen"
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Nexus: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[05:41] <newbnewb> I hit 'apply', but both screens went blank, and it didn't return to the previous setting after I waited a while
[05:42] <vee> yes  right,  so use  bootoption  nomodeset.    ok  do you feel  that perhaps  if  we flash the bios
[05:42] <jefelex> hello all
[05:42] <SwedeMike> newbnewb: what application do you need to save the data from?
[05:42] <newbnewb> now I can't get any screen at all. I tried going to a different console "ctrl-alt-f1" but nothing
[05:42] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: an online financial thing from the company
[05:43] <newbnewb> so until I hit 'send', it won't go through
[05:43] <newbnewb> and there's a lot of work there :(
[05:43] <SwedeMike> newbnewb: so this is in the browser?
[05:43] <jefelex> anyone have any experience with hdmi on 11.04 - specifically, does the hdmi output turn off when using the battery on the laptop?
[05:43] <newbnewb> I tried plugging in a different monitor, but still no luck
[05:43] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: yeah, browser
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Vee: keeping bios up to date may help, check what issues the new version solves and be VERY sure you are doing it right and using the correct image
[05:44] <SwedeMike> newbnewb: does your laptop have like fn-f4 which changes screen output settings? have you tried it?
[05:44] <vee> ActionParsnip,  we have changed the boot order in advanced to the proper drive  is this what you are referring to
[05:44] <nexus> I am stuck with installation of .net framework 4. Everything appears to be fine with wine but the framework is not installed.
[05:44] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: I've tried that, but it doesn't seem to do anything
[05:45] <nexus> Can anyone please help me out with .net framework 4
[05:45] <bazhang> nexus, /join #winehq for help with that
[05:45] <nexus> thanks bazhang
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: how are you connecting to the web? Wired? Wireless? 3G? Do you use a proxy? Does the system have a make and model?
[05:45] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: I've tried closing the lid, and opening it, in case there was some 'close lid' thing that might happen.. no luck there either
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | vee
[05:46] <vee> ok,  to flash the bios  can only be done from  floppy disc   I have external one  to  flash bios
[05:46] <SwedeMike> newbnewb: oki, I'm out of ideas. I don't know if there is a way to connect to your X session somehow, I'm not aware of a way.
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Nexus: you didn't answer me?
[05:46] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: if I hit ctrl-alt-f1 and go to a console, I can probably log in and type anything if you have any ideas of what I could type at a terminal
[05:47] <intlkleinblue> how do i delete my account on ubuntuforums.org
[05:47] <rww> intlkleinblue: ask #ubuntuforums
[05:47] <bazhang> intlkleinblue, try #ubuntuforums
[05:47] <bazhang> whoops
[05:47] <intlkleinblue> ok th
[05:47] <vee> ok  I will check  on  the  nvidia  graphic card  and go there,  I thank you kindly for your help  ActionParsnip
[05:47] <intlkleinblue> thx
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Hehe
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Vee: woah, nvidia?
[05:48] <SwedeMike> newbnewb: well, you need to press the send button in your browser, I don't know how to do that from outside the X session.
[05:48] <vee> yes
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Vee: different boot option dude, use:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[05:49] <newbnewb> SwedeMike: hrm... oh well thanks for the attempt :) I appreciate it!
[05:49] <vee> ohh  awsome  cool  thanks
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Vee: that's why I asked about the video chip? Why didn't you say it was an nvidia??
[05:49] <USMarine> So does anyone have any advice for me for that question I asked a while ago? :)
[05:49] <vee> good grief   LOL
[05:49] <vee> I thought you meant   chipset
[05:50] <vee> I thought you were asking about  MB  chipset
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: i asked a series of questions earlier...
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Vee: i thought the question was clear
[05:50] <JoAnneThrax> !amdcccle
[05:50] <JoAnneThrax> Drat.
[05:50] <vee> you were clear,  i've been confused
[05:50] <vee> sorry,
[05:51] <vee> been  trying to fix  for some time
[05:52] <jefelex> gotta  go
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Vee: no problem. Use that and get updates and install the nvidia driver. Remember to disable any onboard video adapters if your motherboard has one
[05:52] <USMarine> ActionParsnip: Sorry, those slipped right on past me. I am connecting via wireless. Don't know what a proxy is. It's an Asus g72gx.
[05:53] <vee> ok  thank you so  much  i will get it done,  :)
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: ok if you run:  lspci | grep -i network     what is the wireless network hardware you are using??
[05:54] <JoAnneThrax> !amd
[05:55] <bullgard4> [Natty] The DEB program package »wodim« is installed. Why does '~$ which wodim' produce no output? After 15 mins repeated, it produces the output '/usr/bin/wodim'. In the mean time I did '~$which -a wodim' and got '/usr/bin/wodim'.
[05:57] <USMarine> ActionParsnip I can't run the command because I'm on Windows right now. I have no internet access on Ubuntu so I had to switch. The wireless network hardware would be the router right? It's a Belkin.
[05:59] <asher^> hi all
[05:59] <ZiRiu> Hi
[06:01] <asher^> this is probably the wrong place to ask, but where can i find help with configuring sendmail?
[06:01] <iceroot> asher^: #sendmail
[06:02] <dotnetted> Hey all - I have 2 hard drives (2TB each) set up in a Raid-0 array - Currently I have to open "Disk Utility" and "Start Array" and then "mount /dev/md0 /foo" to mount it - I can mount the started array easily in fstab - how would I "start" the array on boot before the mount? Thanks.
[06:02] <asher^> i got no response in there, ill try again
[06:03] <dotnetted> (or what might be a good Google search term?)
[06:03] <tx> hello
[06:03] <tx> hm
[06:03] <textwister> Just reinstalled a laptop from Ubu 9.04 to 11.04.  Wireless was working, now doesn't.  BCM5755M wireless.  The Add'l drivers app offered the Broadcom STA wireless and I installed it, but my chipset is not listed and it didn't work.  lspci shows the device, Network Manager doesn't.  I enabled the wireless in system setup and disabled the HW switch to remove that from consideration.
[06:03] <ZiRiu> raid 0 ubuntu auto mount
[06:03] <danie655> does anyone know if i will have problems with a dell mini 10v/1011 and how do i find out if it is a 32 bit computer or 64 bit if i wont load through the windows logo
[06:04] <wildbat> !raid| dotnetted
[06:04] <dotnetted> Thanks
[06:04] <rww> danie655: I have a Dell Mini 10v. Excepting the wifi and bluetooth, everything works out of the box. Wifi requires "wl"/BroadcomSTA, bluetooth I can't get to work at all. It's 32-bit.
[06:04] <tx> i'm getting a weird problem.... today i've turned my computer on, and now there is no support for mouse and keyboard ( USB )... any ideas what could be a reason? ( i see in dmesg that they are detected )
[06:04] <textwister> danie655: all works on my Dell Mini10
[06:04] <danie655> rww, so would i need to use the fwcutter thing ?
[06:05] <danie655> textwister, are u using 11.04
[06:05] <rww> danie655: There are two "drivers" for that Broadcom chip. One is b43 and uses fwcutter, the other is wl/sta and doesn't. I could only get the second to work.
[06:05] <rww> !bcm43xx | danie655
[06:05] <tx> please help :(
[06:06] <rww> danie655: (I since broke the wifi antenna during hardware tinkering, so I may be a few months out of date. Iono.)
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Tx: wassup?
[06:06] <textwister> danie655 yes -- you need the STA driver.  Install with a wired connection, reboot, and run the add'l drivers applet.  Yes, I'm on 11.04
[06:06] <danie655> rww, so if i use the wl/sta i will at least have wifi working because i dont need the bluetooth
[06:06] <tx> ActionParsnip: my mouse and keyboard ( usb ) just stop working after i've turned my computer on today
[06:06] <rww> danie655: correct
[06:06] <danie655> rww, ok thanks adn ur using 11.04 right ?
[06:06] <tx> ActionParsnip: and they are detected in dmesg
[06:06] <USMarine> ActionParsnip: I can't run the command because I'm on Windows right now. I have no internet access on Ubuntu so I had to switch. The wireless network hardware would be the router right? It's a Belkin.
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Tx: if you press ctrl+alt+f1   can you logon there ok?
[06:07] <rww> danie655: I've used 10.10 with wifi and 11.04 without (because of aforementioned tinkering fail).
[06:08] <tx> ActionParsnip: no... it seems that they are powerless ( i'm right now under ctrl+shift+f1 to be able to get help here - on PS/2 keyboar :/ )_
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: the router is moot. We need to know the wireless device in the system
[06:09] <amit_> Dear friends
[06:09] <amit_> I have convinced some1 to install Ubuntu when he got fed up with WIndows.. My problem is the power regressions in new Linux kernels..  wud it significantly decrease his Laptop battery capacity? shud i go with windiows?
[06:09] <tx> ActionParsnip: and ... weird thing... usb stick led is ON... only keyboard and mouse doesn't seems to work
[06:09] <tx> ;/
[06:09] <USMarine> ActionParsnip: What is moot? So if I run that command it will tell you the wireless device in the system? I'll restart into linux and runn that command. Is there anything else I should do while I have Linux up?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Tx: ok hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root, then run : lsb_release -d    what is output?
[06:10] <amit_> I have convinced some1 to install Ubuntu when he got fed up with WIndows.. My problem is the power regressions in new Linux kernels..  wud it significantly decrease his Laptop battery capacity?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: moot = irrelevant
[06:10] <rewati> hi there in my system I installed freebsd now i am trying to install ubuntu but it say (initramfs) unable to find medium containing a live file system. My cd is good as i tried running it on other system and it installed succesfully
[06:10] <syclopse> can anybody tell me how can i rotate yuv raw image.?
[06:10] <tx> ActionParsnip: ubuntu 11.04
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: i gave the command earlier
[06:11] <textwister> Just reinstalled a laptop from Ubu 9.04 to 11.04. Wireless was working, now doesn't. BCM5755M wireless. The Add'l drivers app offered the Broadcom STA wireless and I installed it, but my chipset is not listed and it didn't work. lspci shows the device, Network Manager doesn't. I enabled the wireless in system setup and disabled the HW switch to remove that from consideration.
[06:11] <amit_> any1>??
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Tx: you sure its no 11.10?
[06:11] <amit_> I have convinced some1 to install Ubuntu when he got fed up with WIndows.. My problem is the power regressions in new Linux kernels..  wud it significantly decrease his Laptop battery capacity?
[06:11] <USMarine> ActionParsnip: Ah. I know the command. But is that all you want me to do while I have Linux up? Cause I will have to reboot into Ubuntu, run the command, then boot back into Windows and relay the info to you, so I was just hoping to save a trip or two.
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Tx: in #ubuntu+1 there is a known issue with udev showing exactly what you described as well as a fix
[06:12] <tx> ActionParsnip: yes i'm sure... and it was working fine from few nice weeks :/
[06:12] <syclopse>  can anybody tell me how can i rotate yuv raw image.?
   (initramfs) unable to find medium containing a live file system. My cd is good as i tried running it on other system and it installed succesfully
[06:12] <awkisopen> Is Ubuntu 10.04.3 out yet?
[06:13] <awkisopen> If not, about what time should it be out?
    hi there in my system I installed freebsd now i am trying to install ubuntu but it say (initramfs) unable to find medium containing a live file system. My cd is good as i tried running it on other system and it installed succesfully
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> rewati: test memory and ensure cd is set to 1st boot device
[06:13] <rww> awkisopen: It's not out yet. There is no set time, and the dates on the release schedule are not guarantees.
[06:13] <Stevethe1irate> Hi, I have a Hauppauge video capture card. At the moment it's getting picked up PVR, and is accessible via (for example) vlc pvr:///dev/video0 ... I'd like to force it to use V4L drivers tho, any ideas?
[06:13] <Stevethe1irate> ActionParsnip: Good morrow.
[06:14] <sorinan> what's the equivalent to "~/.bashrc" on the "sh" shell?
[06:14] <awkisopen> rww: aww :(
[06:14] <tx> ActionParsnip: what kind of fix? i can't use lynx to google :/
[06:14] <tx> it hates me :<
[06:14] <Jordan_U> sorinan: .profile is similar, though only sourced at login.
    its trying to boot from cd so i thing boot from cd is first plus how do u want me to test for memory
[06:14] <thephased> would the nvidia-current driver have any problems running at 1080p?
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> USMarine: yes. We need the wireless chip. Could also run: lsb_release -d    what is output from both please
[06:15] <sorinan> Jordan_U, I think that's enough, thank you!
[06:15] <Jordan_U> sorinan: You're welcome.
    is it related to freebsd file system on disk??
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Tx: the guide should fix you up. You should be able to fix from root recovery. I used liveCD (i use oneiric myself)
[06:16] <USMarine> ActionParnsip: O.k. I'll be back with that info.
[06:17] <textwister> Just reinstalled a laptop from Ubu 9.04 to 11.04. Wireless was working, now doesn't. BCM5755M wireless. The Add'l drivers app offered the Broadcom STA wireless and I installed it, but my chipset is not listed and it didn't work. lspci shows the device, Network Manager doesn't. I enabled the wireless in system setup and disabled the HW switch to remove that from consideration.
[06:17] <textwister> Any ideas?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> rewati: i don't think so really. The liveCd should run regardless of installed OS as it runs in RAM
    but dosnt it need disk for virtual memory when ram is less
   I have 2 gb ram though
[06:19] <bullgard4> amit_: It depends on the actual hardware. My experience is that Ubuntu in general does drain more  battery current than Wincows XP but not so "very much". You can reduce Ubuntu battery current drain to values comparable with Windows XP by considerable individual tinkering though.
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> textwister: if you run: rfkill list    is the device blocked? You can try: sudo rfkill unblock all     to unblock. May help
[06:20] <zykotick9> awkisopen, FYI my Lucid install is already reporting 10.04.3 from "lsb_realease -a" so in some ways, yes it's out ;)
[06:20] <textwister> TY ActionParsnip, trying now...
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> rewati: you can run liveCD in 512mb. Test your RAM is a good start
[06:21] <thephased> should i run apt-get update before i run apt-get nvidia-current ?
[06:21] <thephased> im on 10.04
[06:21] <st47> you should actually run apt-get install nvidia-current
[06:21] <st47> and yeah
[06:21] <Jane1> is there a featurefull too to fix all types of disk and table errors of ext4 or ntfs ?
[06:21] <thephased> right. install
[06:21] <ParkerR> Hey. Building zbar 0.10 I get "rebuild your kernel to include video4linux support" after I run ./configure. How would I go about doing that?
   thanks. I already started it. But what if it fails do I need to replace memory because freebsd loaded on my system is booting properly without error
[06:22] <st47> Jane1: fsck?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> thephased: yes. If your nvidia chip is super nee, you may
[06:22] <thephased> gtx 460
[06:22] <thephased> about a year old
[06:22] <thephased> i can't get 1080p (native) res in 10.04
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> thephased: need a ppa to get the 270 or 275 driver
[06:22] <dogburp> textwister, lspci ≠ lsmod; try lsmod |grep wrapper see to what extend the subsystem is all there
[06:22] <thephased> hm
[06:22] <ParkerR> ActionParsnip, have any ideas?
[06:23] <thephased> what is a good ppa? ActionParsnip
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current lucid
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current natty
[06:23] <thephased> oh alright i see.
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> thephased: see what i mean. Why did you not install Natty?
[06:24] <thephased> so if i want the 270 driver and i don't want to use the one from nvidia.com
[06:24] <thephased> I get a kernel hang in natty
[06:25] <ofhie> hai hai....
[06:25] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why wodim; i brasero-cdrkit depends on wodim.' What program depends Banshee on for burining a CD?
[06:25] <thephased> do i use apt-get install ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[06:25] <ofhie> i'm new in here.. can help me..
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> thephased: there is the xorg edgers updates ppa. There are guides all over on how to get the 270 driver into lucid.
[06:26] <thephased> hm
[06:26] <thephased> would that be better?
[06:26] <Gere> How can ass windows computer remotely with ubuntu
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> thephased: replace: apt-get install     with: add-apt-repository
[06:26]  * st47 is very confused at Gere 
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Gere: how do you "ass" something?
[06:27] <m0n> backup to it? :P
[06:27] <Gere> I am working with ubuntu 10.04 ,How can i acess windows computer rometly?
[06:27] <st47> ssh?
[06:27] <st47> samba?
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Gere: access for what goal?
[06:28] <m0n> use the remotedesktop viewer app
[06:28] <Gere> Like romet desktop on windows
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Gere: access  tells us nothing
[06:28] <Gere> ??
[06:28] <thephased> ok ill try it. thanks ActionParsnip
[06:28] <thephased> do i need to be out of x?
[06:29] <thephased> like when installing the nvidia.com driver?
[06:29] <m0n> no
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Gere: then say THAT rather than access
[06:29] <USMarine> Actionparsnip: It said: network controller: atheros communications inc. AR928x wireless adapter (pci express) (rev 01) and ubuntu 11.04. Was that the right info?
[06:29] <Gere> I mean how can login remote for windows
[06:29] <m0n> Gere: use the remote desktop viewer app.
[06:29] <carcinogen75> Gere: VNC
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Gere:  use rdesktop
[06:30] <m0n> thephased: you shouldn't need to be out of x to add the x-org-edgers ppa and update the video drivers
[06:30] <Gere> tnx
[06:30] <m0n> thephased, when i was using xorg-edgers ppa to update my ati drivers i did not need to be out of x... but may be different with nvidia not 100% sure
[06:30] <Jane1> st47 no use
[06:30] <thephased> alright cool.
[06:31] <thephased> should i do an apt-get update first? im on a fresh install of 10.04
[06:31] <Jane1> is there a featurefull too to fix all types of disk and table errors of ext4 or ntfs ?
[06:31] <dobeFEguy> question: so I've got some friends that work at google and HP that used to help me out a lot on here among other venues, but they have been very silent lately. SO I talked to one guy tonight, and he said (his words not mine) that the moderators here aren't keen on being corrected and they ban folks that question them. One of the guys at HP got pretty mad and switched his entire division to Mint, and the google guys having similar experienc
[06:31] <dobeFEguy> es are thinking of following suit and customizing their own Mint distro. So my question is, with big players like this jumping out should we be looking at Mint (and isn't Mint part of Ubuntu?), and what is up with the moderators, are they really that bad? I've witnessed some hasty ego banning, but not that often it didn't seem like. Sorry if that is a dumb question, Im pretty new to linux and the community
[06:31] <rww> dobeFEguy: Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, no.
[06:31] <rww> dobeFEguy: If you or your friends have questions about operator actions on #ubuntu, please use #ubuntu-ops.
[06:32] <Gere> how can i use rdesktop?
[06:32] <textwister> dogburp: lsmod shows nothing with "wrapper" -- but I have the STA driver loaded, not the one that uses fwcutter, so should I see "wrapper"? ActionParsnip: rfkill shows the interface and shows it unblocked.
[06:32] <m0n> thephased, add the ppa repository for xorg-edgers ppa
[06:32] <m0n> then just do a simple apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:33] <zilch_> which ati radeon driver should i use for Ubuntu 10.10   - the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010
[06:33] <zilch_> for opengl graphic support
[06:33] <thephased> is xorg-edgers ppa better than x-swat ppa?
[06:33] <thephased> im using an nvidia card
[06:33] <zykotick9> zilch, FYI ubuntu versions numbers are the release date, so 10.10 is October 2010
[06:34] <thephased> i just want the latest stable nvidia release
[06:34] <thephased> no beta stuff
[06:34] <m0n> thephased, can't help you there sorry man. don't ahve any nvidia hardware :(
[06:34] <zilch_> zykotick9, I want to support dual monitor for ATI radion card 9600
[06:34] <thephased> oh alright no worries
[06:34] <thephased> thanks m0n
[06:35] <new> morning to yaall
[06:35] <m0n> zilch, install proprietary drivers. i've had better success with fglrx in regards to opengl support and performance
[06:35] <zykotick9> zilch, sorry I can't help with you ATI issue, just wanted you to know the "...released in October 2010" wasn't required, we can see from the version when something is released.
[06:36] <dobeFEguy> rww: i dont think I have any ops questions, my situation is that my company is about to invest a lot of work into linux, and we had decided on ubuntu, but now with the guys who were my biggest help gone, and 2 huge companies switching to Mint because of the modrators here, do I stick with ubuntu, or follow them to mint?
[06:36] <m0n> zilch, there's 2 methods of install fglrx if you are interested in using that. if not, add the xorg-edgers ppa for the open-source drivers, which is fully supported, but does not grant as much performance as the proprietary drivers
[06:38] <zilch_> m0n, zykotick9  thanks a lot ... doing fglrx
[06:38] <dobeFEguy> rww: my buddy just pinged me and said he just tried to logon to meet me here and is still banned
[06:38] <rww> dobeFEguy: Again, if they have questions about that, they should join #ubuntu-ops.
[06:39] <YankDownUnder> dobeFEguy, ...as well, some of the ops hang in #ubuntu-offtopic fwiw
[06:39] <dobeFEguy> it sounds to me like they've done that and aren't even interested in ubuntu anymore
[06:39] <rww> YankDownUnder: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't a venue for ban resolution.
[06:39] <textwister> Just reinstalled a laptop from Ubu 9.04 to 11.04. Wireless was working, now doesn't. lspci shows BCM5755M wireless. The Add'l drivers app offered the Broadcom STA wireless and I installed it, but my chipset is not listed and it didn't work. lspci shows the device, Network Manager doesn't. I enabled the wireless in system setup and disabled the HW switch to remove that from consideration. rfkill shows the device and shows it unblock
[06:39] <textwister> ed.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
[06:39] <m0n> if that's the case, please take caution. i have had some issues with fglrx tanking my X server, and causing endless loops. follow the directions on this page carefully - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:39] <dobeFEguy> but banning tech leads from HP and Google seems like bad practice to me
[06:40] <YankDownUnder> rww, Sometimes the distance between point A and point B require you to step into a pub.
[06:41] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Have you looked through the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to see if the driver is blacklisted?
[06:42] <new> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/kuvakaappaus21072011093.png/
[06:42] <textwister> YankDownUnder: will try
[06:42] <Jane1> where are the mountpoints written and seved in linux. its not booting coz i mounted ntfs. i want to unmount it by a live cd
[06:43] <Jane1> ?
   memory test pass 1 no error should i let it go for pass2 ???
[06:43] <textwister> also, just realized I'd been looking (in lspci output) at the number for the wired NIC, not wireless.  It is the BCM4311.
[06:44] <m0n> Jane1 mount points are saved in the /etc/fstab file
[06:44] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Something you can try - in order to further troubleshoot this, is to UNblacklist the BCM driver in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, then restart the machine, then let it try to find the driver again...(been there before)
[06:45] <XubuntuDilemma> does any1 reconize this problem with the edges of the program screens and the fact that there should be 3 workspaces not 1
[06:46] <XubuntuDilemma> and if I have something on my desktop, the upper bar will slightly cover it
[06:46] <m0n> YankDownUnder, sorry to direct this at you, but you seem like you sort of know what i'm talking about here. How do i blacklist a certain device ID from picking a certain driver and force it to load a different one?
[06:46] <XubuntuDilemma> this happens after some use of the user, like a week or so
[06:46] <Jane1> m0n how to mount sda6
[06:46] <XubuntuDilemma> than I make a new user and there is no problem
[06:46] <XubuntuDilemma> but I have created like three of them now
[06:46] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Explain a bit better please mate, eh? ;)
   memory test pass 1 no error should i let it go for pass2 ???
   r u dere???
[06:48] <thephased> m0m when you apt-get your ppa packages do you have to enter a special name to get the package to install?
[06:48] <m0n> YankDownUnder, LOL ok. It's a bluetooth issue. Ubuntu is loading the toshiba_bluetooth driver and assigning that to the bluetooth card. Problem is this doesn't allow it to work. I've used the ath3k driver (it's an ATH3011) and this works, but i only managed to get it to work with one restart then it reloads the toshiba driver again
[06:48] <thephased> i added the ppa repository and im having trouble doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers
[06:48] <thephased> it says there's no package
[06:49] <thephased> yet when i do sudo apt-get update it shows the x-swat repository in there
[06:49] <thephased> and it definitely added the key
[06:49] <m0n> ok
[06:49] <m0n> lemme find the howto guide
[06:49] <thephased> yeah i used the one on launchpad
[06:49] <HackNewton> hi all i want to know is there GNOME 3 avaible for ubuntu ?
[06:49] <HackNewton> ppa ?
[06:49] <zykotick9> !gnome3
[06:49] <textwister> YankDownUnder: In blacklist.conf I have bcm43xx.  But in blacklist-bcm43.conf I also have bcm43xx, as well as b43 and b43legacy. Which of these do I comment out?  And do I uninstall the STA driver first?
[06:49] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Blacklist the toshiba driver (you should be able to ID it through doing an "lsmod") and then add that to the blacklist.conf => reboot, see what happens. As well, you can force the Atheros driver to load.
[06:50] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Unblacklist them from each, then restart, try "jockey-gtk" to see if it will recognise the proper driver at that point my friend.
[06:51] <zykotick9> HackNewton, if you really want Gnome 3 i'd check out Fedora
[06:52] <andantino> have you tried gnome 3 hack?
[06:52] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why wodim; i brasero-cdrkit depends on wodim.' What program depends Banshee on for burining a CD?
[06:52] <m0n> YankDownUnder, thanks mate, i'll try that
[06:52] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Roger that.
[06:53] <rewati>     hi there in my system I installed freebsd now i am trying to install ubuntu but it say (initramfs) unable to find medium containing a live file system. My cd is good as i tried running it on other system and it installed succesfully
[06:53] <HackNewton> zykotick9, i just moved from Fedora Ubuntu
[06:54]  * andantino no like gnome3
[06:54] <zykotick9> HackNewton, if you want Gnome3, poor choice in timing I believe
[06:55] <play4> .
[06:55] <HackNewton> zykotick9, i tested Gnome3 on fedora am not only for Gnome3 just thought i will be great to be in ubuntu
[06:56] <m0n> brb
[07:02] <textwister> YankDownUnder: Still no joy...  NetManager has an "Enable Networking" entry but no "Enable Wireless Networking", No wireless device shows up in its configuration panels. But lspci shows the device, as does rfkill.  Not sure what to look for in lsmod output
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Right oh. You're trying to load the atheros driver, right?
[07:04] <textwister> YankDownUnder: jockey-gtk calls it the Broadcom STA wireless driver.  Is that atheros?
[07:04] <m0n> YankDownUnder, so the toshiba_bluetooth module is not loading now. Great! :D How do i ensure that the ath3k driver is associated with a certain device id?
[07:04] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Is it already activated, or is it asking you if you want to activate it?
[07:05] <csdserver> i'm noticing something quirky with x windows and not sure if it's due to ubuntu or not.  for example, if i have multiple confirmation boxes open or nested submenus then a control code to x windows isn't sent to it first ( ctrl alt t for terminal and others).  where would i even go to adjust that?
[07:05] <textwister> It's already activated -- but having no effect
[07:05] <YankDownUnder> m0n, In the /etc/modules file, put the module name in there and it will load on each boot.
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> textwister, then de-activate it, open a term, and we'll try something right now, eh?
[07:06] <textwister> YankDownUnder: "Remove" same as deactivate?  No deactivate option here.
[07:07] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Just close jocky, open a term...we'll try something, eh?
[07:07] <asher^> hi all. how do i terminate a process thats running?
[07:07] <textwister> YankDownUnder: sure.  I'm ready
[07:08] <YankDownUnder> textwister, In the open terminal, type: sudo lsmod => paste the output to pastebin
[07:08] <csdserver> asher^,  ps ; kill pid
[07:09] <csdserver> top*
[07:09] <zykotick9> asher^, if you know the process name and want to kill all the process with that name you can use "killall processname"
[07:09] <Stevethe1irate> Hi, I have an older 10.04 PC here, but when I boot it picks up an error on /dev/sdb, one of my drives. It tries to clean it, but hangs at like ~30%. Is there any way to bypass this (perhaps with a grub directive) other than removing the harddrive?
[07:10] <asher^> thanks. ps lists all running processes, right?
[07:10] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, You could always just boot with a liveCd and do a proper fsck on the drive/partition to make sure it's all right...
[07:10] <csdserver> asher^,  sorry no, use top instead of ps
[07:10] <danub> hey all
[07:11] <Stevethe1irate> YankDownUnder: I don't have a livecd, nor a CD writer (except on the PC giving issues) [this is a netbook]
[07:11] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, Open a term, use sudo to unmount the drive/partition, then do a "sudo fsck.blah" on it from there, then reboot...???
[07:11] <danub> i want to port my home x display to my work laptop. how do i go about doing that? they are both using linux
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> danub, ssh -X works wonders.
[07:12] <Stevethe1irate> YankDownUnder: the PC is off atm, when I turn it on, it hangs on disk check.
[07:12] <danub> i used to use nomachine on windows, but now i have a linux laptop so yeah... first time trying this one
[07:12] <danub> -X huh
[07:13] <carcinogen75> danub: VNC
[07:13] <danub> connection refused
[07:13] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, Um...have you considered creating a bootable USB stick?
[07:13] <danub> oh duh, wrong box lol
[07:13] <asher^> ok, in top, i press k, enter the pid, and it comes up with Kill PID 3237 with signal [15]: what do i type there?
[07:13] <jenna> Hey all, I am getting prompted for update thru "update-manager" , one of the package to be updated is openssh-server. But the weird thing is before begining to install it places "ssh .. stuff" in "un-authenticated section" of package to be update. Isn't that risky. Shouldn't one be concerned. I have officail repos configured.
[07:13] <thephased> does anyone here have experience using ppa repositories? specifically x-swat
[07:13] <danub> -X just gives me a shell, same as ssh
[07:14] <Stevethe1irate> YankDownUnder: I don't have one at the moment. SURELY there is a way to bypass disk check?
[07:14] <YankDownUnder> danub, Right. Now you can run any X program through that...or even type "startx" to start a real xsession...
[07:14] <danub> in the terminal i will get an x session?
[07:14] <csdserver> asher^,  hit escape and press enter
[07:14] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, On the boot, were you asked anything about entering the root password to perform system maintenance?
[07:14] <Stevethe1irate> No.
[07:15] <Stevethe1irate> Boots of hd(1,1), ext3
[07:15] <YankDownUnder> danub, No...if you just run a program, you will have X forwarding - thererfore, you are running the program FROM the other machine ON this machine
[07:15] <Stevethe1irate> -> GUI [ Your disk drivers are being checked for errors, this may take some time. Checking disk 1 of 2 (14% complete) ...
[07:15] <Stevethe1irate> -> Hangs
[07:16] <sam__> salut les gens
[07:16] <textwister> YankDownUnder: http://pastebin.com/GnG0aWn3
[07:16] <asher^> csdserver it doesnt seem to be killing the process
[07:16] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, So it doesn't offer you the chance to skip? Like does it say "Press C to cancel disk checking" ?
[07:16] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Looking now...
[07:16] <Stevethe1irate> YankDownUnder: Nope.
[07:16] <Jane1>  how to unmount sda6?
[07:17] <obert> tsk i cannot get the correct date time everytime i reboot
[07:17] <csdserver> asher^, sorry, it must be asking Yes or No then.  type Yes.
[07:17] <Stevethe1irate> "Errors were found while checking the disk driver for /"
[07:17] <danub> YankDownUnder: ok. so if i load up firefox to check my personal email, it will run it on the home server, but i wont be able to see it?
[07:18] <obert> is there something that i dunno about save os date time?
[07:18] <almoxarife> Jane1: see it on your desktop?
[07:18] <M7amad> how can i partition a flash disk and change one of the partition to cdfs
[07:18] <carcinogen75> I heard thats now in linux can use windows drivers for devices. is it true? whats name of this technology
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> textwister, It's not loading anything mate...SO, open a term, and type: sudo modprobe bc43xx => then type: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart => then check in your Network Manager if the wireless is working, eh?
[07:20] <textwister> carcinogen75: not all drivers -- just select network drivers.  You're looking for "ndiswrapper" I think.
[07:20] <YankDownUnder> danub, It will run on THIS machine - FROM your home machine... ;)
[07:20] <carcinogen75> textwister: thx
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, I'd honestly recommend you to create a USB startup for this issue - when I have clients that have the same issue, the fastest route to resolution is by using a bootable USB disk...(works great on desktops, too)
[07:21] <danub> YankDownUnder: i just did ssh -X -p PORT HOST_ADDR, got logged in, typed firefox, but it said error, no display
[07:21] <obert> hey.answer my question! what did i pay you for??
[07:21] <textwister> YankDownUnder: That may have been w/ the STA driver removed...
[07:21] <danub> does that mean because im in X on this screen i cant? if i go to the f1 screen i can?
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> danub, I'd not be worrying about any ports...just use "ssh -X XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX, enter username/password, and try again.
[07:22] <m0n> so YankDownUnder, blacklisting the toshiba driver renders the card inaccessible. What i need to do to get the card working, is just merely running modprobe ath3k. Then running the following command echo "0930 0215" | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/drivers/ath3k/new_id. (0930 0215 being the device id of the toshiba driver assigns to the bt card)
[07:22] <danub> YankDownUnder: have to set the port because im running it off a different port (my ISP sucks)
[07:22] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Load the driver in the /etc/modules file, then in the /etc/rc.local script, add the other bits - that should resolve that
[07:22] <Stevethe1irate> YankDownUnder: Yeah, that's definitely a last resort.
[07:23] <danub> i can only run 1 x server per system?
[07:23] <danub> this is turning into a real pain in the ass lol
[07:23] <YankDownUnder> danub, I'd read up on ssh with X forwarding - there's a great set of pages on the Ubuntu wiki, mate...otherwise, you might use "Remote Desktop"
[07:24] <YankDownUnder> Stevethe1irate, I don't see why that would be a last resort...if you're wanting a fast resolution to a relatively simple problem...
[07:24] <obeyance> Could someone point me to an understandable walk through of how to install windows onto a machine with a full install of Ubuntu?
[07:24] <danub> YankDownUnder: yeah, i think i will just do the remote desktop for now while i figure out the X forwarding
[07:24] <obeyance> I want to be able to duel boot so i can play some of my games, but i dont know how to do it on linux.
[07:24] <ct529> hi! What is the best way to show RSS rolling on the screen , so that when you see one of them it is taken off the list?
[07:25] <obeyance> I know how to do it vise versa, at least i think i do. But linux is different.
[07:25] <YankDownUnder> danub, I'll say this, but. I love using the "ssh" option as I don't have clutter. I have (when I'm out and about) my single applications running directly from my office desktop on my netbook (even with the same GTK decos) and I can control things easier with that much less clutter...but hey, that's just me.
[07:26] <obert> very weird beauvier.not sure if it is related to my virtual machine
[07:28] <almoxarife> obeyance: what os boots now?
[07:28] <obeyance> Ubuntu 11.04
[07:29] <obeyance> Ill be installing Win7 from a USB Flash drive
[07:30] <almoxarife> obeyance: thought about running win7 in virtual?
[07:30] <obeyance> How?
[07:30] <wols_>  fatal: qmgr_move: update active/221A91303668 time stamps: Stale NFS file handle
[07:30] <almoxarife> obeyance: virtualbox? its free
[07:31] <obeyance> Its like Alcohol 120% for windows?
[07:31] <obeyance> Just a virtual drive.
[07:31] <rww> no, it's like VMWare or VirtualBox for Windows.
[07:31] <obeyance> Oh heh.
[07:31] <wols_> obeyance: make some space unpartitioned. while installing windows, create a partition there and install it. reinstall your grub2 bootloader /msg ubottu fixmbr
[07:31] <obeyance> I dont have any experience with those.
[07:31] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs
[07:31] <almoxarife> obeyance: I have win7 in virtualbox, been problem free
[07:31] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:31] <wols_> almoxarife: it won't work for obeyance
[07:32] <obert> obeyance: it is easy. you just install a VM and then you can build n different guest OS in it
[07:32] <almoxarife> wols_: no?
[07:32] <wols_> almoxarife: no. he cannot play games.
[07:32] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:32] <obert> a separate server machine would be faster anyway
[07:33] <obeyance> What?
[07:33] <obert> you need a lot of ram if you get some OSes
[07:33] <wols_> obeyance: I told you above how to install windows after ubuntu. what's unclear about it?
[07:33] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:34] <trijntje> !repeat | quick-
[07:34] <obeyance> I didnt see sorry.
[07:34] <gabdantas> good morning!
[07:34] <pratz_> hey guys any one using scribus, i am trying to create a pdf but the text is visible as boxes , i guess this is utf-8 issue , not quite sure, if any one knows how to fix the problem please let me know, thank you
[07:34] <pratz_> i have asked on #scribus but no reply
[07:34] <obeyance> Oh, its a lot of work eh?
[07:34] <textwister> YankDownUnder: Switching from the STA driver to the 'firmware-b43-installer' and the 'b43-fwcutter' apparently fixed my problem.  Followed this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1745437.  Thanks for your assistance.
[07:35] <obeyance> With chances of things going wrong? I LOVE IT!
[07:35] <obeyance> =p
[07:35] <obert> obeyance: it is easy to setup a vm
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> textwister, Roger that, have fun
[07:35] <obeyance> The other guy said i couldnt play games on it though. Right?
[07:35] <wols_> obert: how does a VM help playing games?
[07:35] <almoxarife> obeyance: how much ram you have?
[07:35] <obeyance> 2g
[07:35] <textwister> pratz_: it MAY be UTF, but it could be a font issue.  Have you tested other fonts?
[07:36] <obert> playin games? no idea.i dont play
[07:36] <wols_> obeyance: if you want to play games 5 years and older it can work. for current games it does not
[07:36] <almoxarife> obeyance: what games?
[07:36] <obeyance> Thats the only reason i want windows. There are games that WONT play on linux.
[07:36] <pratz_> textwister: i trired 2-3 fonts but the same problem
[07:36] <wols_> but with games that old, wine works too
[07:36] <obeyance> Like the new League of Legends loader, doesnt no work on linux.
[07:36] <obert> hehe games :)
[07:37] <obeyance> It worked with wine up untill they made it have to use .net framwork.
[07:37] <Darkfd> Hi guys
[07:37] <obeyance> So, either i dual boot or w/e, i need windows on this box too.
[07:38] <almoxarife> obeyance: two choices, install win7 on the machine, careful not to crash grub, or run it virtual
[07:38] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:38] <Darkfd> How do you select multiple files in nautilus?
[07:38] <obeyance> If i partition out a spot for the win OS to sit in, it would have less of a chance to mess with grub correct?
[07:39] <almoxarife> obeyance: I did learn one lesson about installing a legal win7 virtual, it won't install later on the machine
[07:39] <textwister> pratz_:  Not a scribus expert, but it sounds like the pdf renderer is trying to render characters for which it can't find an appropriate guide.  If you are set to use UTF-8 encoding but are using non-UTF8 fonts, I think that might cause it -- but using specialty fonts might as well (many of them don't include all characters.)
[07:39] <almoxarife> obeyance: true
[07:39] <pratz_> textwister: i even can not type the characters and when i copy paste them , they are visible in boxes
[07:39] <m0n> YankDownUnder, thanks dude! fixed!!
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Coolbeans mate. You buy the beer. ;)
[07:40] <obeyance> Gpart is the gnome partitioner right?
[07:40] <m0n> it's taken me nearly 3 weeks to get this sorted through the ubuntu forums, the linuxwireless irc chatroom, this chatroom, and a couple of over forums aswell
[07:40] <m0n> i would DEFINITELY buy you a beer if u were in my state :P
[07:40] <m0n> you are in QLD yer?
[07:40] <textwister> obeyance: gparted
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> m0n, Hehehehhehee...yeah...well, when I blow through there next year, you can buy me the VB & Jaeger matey ;)
[07:41] <YankDownUnder> m0n, ...and I'm in NSW mate
[07:41] <m0n> lol will do! thanks! :D
[07:41] <m0n> enjoy guys
[07:43] <obert> mmm could i format a partition (the whole hd,indeed) without gparted?
[07:44] <obeyance> wol_ how do i reinstall grub2 bootloader? Is this a delicate procedure? Could i get a point to a decent artical to help?
[07:44] <textwister> pratz_: Sorry to bail w/o your problem resolved, but I think that's all the relevant knowledge I have on your problem -- my problem was just fixed, and at near 3 am here, my pillow is calling...   Sorry I couldn't help more.
[07:44] <bullgard4> '~$ aptitude why wodim; i brasero-cdrkit depends on wodim.' What program depends Banshee on for burning a CD?
[07:45] <wols_> obert: you can. linux will use it fine. windows not
[07:45] <textwister> obert:  try parted or fdisk if you don't have gparted.
[07:45] <pratz_> textwister: hey no worries dude, i found it
[07:46] <noisewaterphd> bullgard4, banshee uses brasero i think? I'll check for you real quick
[07:46] <llutz_> bullgard4: "apt-cache depends banshee"  seems it just recommends brasero
[07:46] <pratz_> textwister: the default font selected for the proble is "A" (an example), but "A" is not installed on my system, thats the reason
[07:46] <pratz_> textwister:  *program
[07:46] <obert> wols_: how? i doubt i have internet connection in that machine. i got an usb pen drive with mini.iso but i cannot boot from there. also if i try to mount or mini.iso or gparted.iso it just try to open it via archive manager.
[07:46] <obert> well i'm a linux beginner,definately
[07:47] <obeyance> you need to extract the iso.
[07:47] <wols_> obert: what is your actual problem?
[07:47] <Darkfd> How do you select multiple files in nautilus?
[07:47] <Darkfd> list view
[07:47] <obert> but i hope that i could format the whole hd via two commands
[07:47] <pratz_> textwister: the fonts which are not installed on the system and if you try to type you can not insert characters , but you can insert numbers
[07:47] <noisewaterphd> bullgard4, ya banshee uses brasero
[07:47] <obert> wols_: i want to format a hd :)
[07:47] <noisewaterphd> obert: fdisk, gparted?
[07:48] <noisewaterphd> obert, you just looking for a tool
[07:48] <pratz_> textwister: thanks for your involvement
[07:48] <wols_> obert: and you have what OS to access said hdd right now?
[07:48] <noisewaterphd> obert, just read the fdisk man page, its simple enough
[07:48] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:48] <obert> noisewaterphd: no idea. how to mount an iso then? gparted.iso in this case then.if it is the quicker way to format a hd
[07:49] <obeyance> hm i was wanting to test the install of this pendrive windows installation and uh, my bios doesnt give me an option to boot from USB Flash
[07:49] <obeyance> ah
[07:49] <obeyance> USB Hard Drive = USB Flash drive.
[07:49] <obeyance> heh
[07:49] <obert> wols_: not sure if i'm ina loop. i got a hd with ubuntu 6,i want to format it
[07:50] <wols_> obert: again: what OS do you have right now that accesses this HDD?
[07:50] <obert> and sorry if i'm getting your time without a serious report
[07:50] <obert> wols_: ubuntu 6
[07:50] <wols_> obert: and why do you need to format it?
[07:50] <obert> wols_: it is obsolete
[07:51] <wols_> that is no reason. e.g. if you need to install another OS there you don't need to format anything. so why do you want to do it?
[07:51] <noisewaterphd> obert: for mounting iso just use the mount command, or this link shows you the gui way I guess, but Ive never tried it that way: http://hacktivision.com/index.php/2008/02/24/how-to-mount-iso-images-in-ubuntu-the-ea?blog=2
[07:51] <bullgard4> llutz_: '~$ "apt-cache depends banshee; ...; Recommends: brasero.' What does »Recdommend« mean? If I do not install the package brasero, Banshee will still function, but it will not burn CDs(DVDs?
[07:51] <wols_> obert: gparted is not needed for what you want to do. mkfs is
[07:51] <noisewaterphd> bullgard4, right
[07:51] <obert> wols_: why i dont need to format the hd if i want to install mini.iso?
[07:51] <wols_> bullgard4: it means "it's probably nice if you installed this too"
[07:52] <llutz_> bullgard4: right, "depends" are packages it really depends on to work, "recommends" are feature which might be installed but not essentially needed (like burning cds)
[07:52] <obert> uhmf
[07:52] <wols_> obert: no. the installer, like any other oeprating system installer, can format before it installs. partition too
[07:52] <bullgard4> noisewaterphd: Thank you for your help.
[07:52] <obert> wols_: but i cannot boot from usb pen drive
[07:52] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you for your help.
[07:52] <bullgard4> wols_: Thank you.
[07:53] <wols_> obert: how can you boot then?
[07:53] <obert> wols_: no idea :P
[07:53] <wols_> !tell obert about debootstrap
[07:54] <obert> wols_: i just read that i cannot boot from usb,also if i try to do it, it'll boot the ubuntu 6 instead,ever
[07:54] <wols_> obert: you can use debootstrap by running it via your ubuntu6 installation. but this is not trivial
[07:55] <obert> wols_: i think i need to study something better. i'm very confused at this moment. thanks though
[07:55] <obeyance> Weee the install of windows i have is in Italian only =\
[07:56] <obert> obeyance: ?
[07:56] <nit-wit> obert, if it is that your conmputer is to old to boot the thumb plop will .http://www.plop.at/
[07:57] <gurra> can I prevent udev rules from executing at boot-time?
[07:57] <obert> nit-wit: this one? http://www.plop.at/en/ploplinuxdl.html
[07:58] <nit-wit> obert, yeah I have used the ISO on a cd.
[07:58] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[07:58] <obert> hope so
[07:59] <obert> cd..i do no have cds.only a 256mb usb pen drive
[07:59] <obert> poor people in the area
[08:00] <nit-wit> obert, well a cd or the bootstrap are your options probably.
[08:01] <obert> nit-wit: ok. have to play with all this stuff more then
[08:03] <obert> thanks to all
[08:04] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows intramfs and halts . please hel p
[08:04] <quick-> i am installing ubuntu 11.04 and after installing when it reboots it shows initramfs and halts . please hel p
[08:05] <renaldocreative> quick- make sure your hardware is install correctly.
[08:05] <nit-wit> quick-, are you using a usb thumb to install
[08:06] <renaldocreative> quick- Did you make any changes to your hardware or bios.
[08:06] <Radhika> Yes! I got the IRC to work[: I'm just going to afk now.
[08:07] <ct529> hi! What is the best way to show RSS rolling on the screen , so that when you see one of them it is taken off the list? Something that allows to continuosly read the news.
[08:07] <renaldocreative> ct529 I don't know a program that have that feature.
[08:08] <obeyance> I dont understand the installation structure on this drive.
[08:08] <obeyance> Using Gparted it says theres 3 partitions and 1 unallocated.
[08:08] <obeyance> But i formated this drive and did not set up any partitions.
[08:08] <renaldocreative> obeyance did you install Ubuntu
[08:09] <obeyance> So Ubuntu set 2x 6.5Gb partitions for itself? Extended and Swap.
[08:09] <obeyance> Yes.
[08:09] <epifanio> hi all
[08:10] <obeyance> renaldocreative, What i am doing though is trying to make some unallocated space for installing windows on.
[08:10] <obeyance> And Gparted says there are alredy partitions so i cant do that... or something like that.
[08:10] <epifanio> any advice on how to run unity3d on a macbook pro 2.2 ? i'm running ubuntu11.10
[08:11] <Gere> how can change my login screen like another login window?
[08:11] <epifanio> i tried to install 11.04 but it fails to boot .. the only way to install ubuntu was to use the 11.10 mac iso
[08:11] <obeyance> =\
[08:11] <obeyance> You couldnt install 10.04 or 10.10?
[08:12] <obeyance> I installed from an old 9.10 LIVECD i had =p
[08:12] <obeyance> And upgraded to 11.04
[08:12] <renaldocreative> obeyance sorry I cannot help you but you can resize delete the other partition and create a new one for Windows.
[08:12] <epifanio> now it runs nice, the problem is about desktpo effet / video-dtiver ... i guess
[08:13] <obeyance> How?
[08:13] <renaldocreative> obeyance I have not use Gparted but I think you can right click the partition and click delete.
[08:14] <epifanio> i'm now tring to dollow some topic .. but i guess is my shit-ati card .. the real problem
[08:14] <obeyance> oh im so lost on this.
[08:14] <obeyance> Free Space Preceding, New size, Free space following.
[08:14] <obeyance> what are these?!
[08:14] <epifanio> trying a restart of X and see what hapeens
[08:16] <renaldocreative> obeyance make sure you don't delete ext4, and Linux Swap
[08:16]  * szal thinks that the space options in GParted are self-explanatory
[08:19] <obeyance> renaldocreative, Yeah i wasnt going to touch anything that was already allocated, but i have to?
[08:19] <obeyance> How can i use some of the 226 gigs that ext4 is not use?
[08:20] <renaldocreative> Give me a few
[08:20] <offermann> #ubuntu-de
[08:21] <Radhika> Is it possible to access files on Vista from Ubuntu?
[08:21] <wols_> !ntfs-3g
[08:22] <wols_> Radhika: see above
[08:22] <Radhika> Alright.
[08:22] <wols_> obeyance: you can resize your ext4 partition and make it smaller
[08:23] <obeyance> wols_ thats what im trying to od.
[08:23] <obeyance> But i see no options for doing so in GParted.
[08:24] <nit-wit> obeyance, your on the live cd correct?
[08:24] <renaldocreative> obeyance right click the partition and it should say resize and move
[08:24] <obeyance> no full install updated to 11.04 with all current updates.
[08:25] <nit-wit> obeyance, you can't resize or change a partition your using.
[08:25] <obeyance> Yeah...
[08:25] <wols_> obeyance: you want to boot from a live cd. resizing a live filesystem is not good at all
[08:26] <obeyance> I wish i could just use my 300Gb USB external =(
[08:26] <obeyance> But windows wont boot from there.
[08:26] <obeyance> Windows is gay =\
[08:27] <derpadong> its windows /end
[08:27] <obeyance> How much ram would VM eat up?
[08:27] <Maneta> windows is frustrating
[08:27] <renaldocreative> obeyance you can try Virtual Box
[08:27] <obeyance> Can i game on it?
[08:27] <derpadong> windows is a dangerous os
[08:27] <obeyance> Thats the only reason im wanting to use it.
[08:27] <Maneta> too many clicks for everything
[08:27] <obeyance> I just want to run my games, and some i cant do in wine.
[08:28] <renaldocreative> Obeyance http://virtualbox.org I'm running WIndows on Virtual Box and it work perfect.
[08:28] <iceroot> obeyance: if you want to run games and want to install in a vm, i think dualboot is better
[08:28] <szal> renaldocreative: "perfect" is perhaps a bit too much said; try playing multimedia ;)
[08:29] <renaldocreative> Media work great for me
[08:29] <obeyance> But how do i get room on my single partitioned hard drive?
[08:29] <Mandrew> hi i made a swap, / and a/home och one HDD when i installed ubuntu, now im looking for a backup tool and i am also wondering waht i should backup to get the most out of the backup
[08:29] <obeyance> to install windows?
[08:29] <Maneta> gedit obeyance
[08:30] <Maneta> perdon
[08:30]  * szal can't even play MP3 in a virtual Win7 w/o a slight bit of stuttering
[08:30] <Maneta> gparted obeyance
[08:30] <wols_> obeyance: you boot from the ubuntu live cd and run gparted there
[08:30] <Maneta> you can split the disc on the gparted
[08:30] <obeyance> my Live CD is 9.10
[08:30] <obeyance> 11.04 doesnt even have Gparted installed, i had to download and install.
[08:30] <wols_> !tell Mandrew about backup
[08:30] <Maneta> sudo apt-get install gparted
[08:31] <obeyance> I mean, im guessing thats what having to download and install it means.
[08:31] <renaldocreative> szal I have WIndows 7 but I'm running Windows XP in Virtual Box.
[08:31] <Mandrew> tnx wols_
[08:31] <Radhika> Is there any way to change the Ubuntu scrollbar to work with the up and down buttons too?
[08:32] <iceroot> Radhika: they are but the windows must have the focus
[08:32] <Radhika> The focus?
[08:33] <szal> the window must be active
[08:33] <obeyance> k ill be back
[08:33] <Radhika> would it work in the irc? it isn't.
[08:34] <mang0> How do I minimize a game on ubuntu? On windows I just press the "windows" button on the keyboard (next to spacebar) and the game minimized. How do i do that on Ubuntu?
[08:34] <renaldocreative> Try F11
[08:35] <mang0> okay
[08:35] <zykotick9> mang0, or try alt+enter, but it really depends on the game if minimizing will work or not
[08:35] <Lasers> mang0: CTRL + ALT + D ?
[08:35] <mang0> oh okay, F11 didn't work
[08:35] <mang0> I'll try alt + enter and ctrl +alt + d
[08:37] <mang0> zykotick9: alt + enter put the game into window mode but I couldn't free the mouse :/ Lasers it didn't work...
[08:38] <Lasers> mang0: Try ALT+TAB -- Otherwise, I dunno.
[08:38] <mang0> okay, thanks
[08:38] <Noor_egy> hello i cant load my windows from linux grub i tried to make  grub-mkconfig and thats the result  http://paste.ubuntu.com/648914/
[08:39] <mang0> Yes! Lasers thankyou, alt + tab works perfectly :)
[08:39] <Lasers> mang0: Great. I gladly accept donations. :)
[08:39] <mang0> heheh
[08:40] <Noor_egy> hmm
[08:41] <Noor_egy> could any one help me with that plz
[08:41] <Noor_egy> :/
[08:42] <renaldocreative> Noor-egy can you access Ubuntu
[08:43] <renaldocreative> It might be your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:44] <Noor_egy>  renaldocreative: this file not found
[08:44] <wols_> Noor_egy: first thing is to see what windows you have and what partition it uses
[08:44] <XubuntuDilemma> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/kuvakaappaus21072011093.png/
[08:45] <Noor_egy> im using xp and partion sda1
[08:45] <wols_> renaldocreative: grub2 doesn't have menu.lst anymore and grub1 is long gone
[08:45] <XubuntuDilemma> any help here?
[08:45] <wols_> Noor_egy: fat or ntfs?
[08:45] <Noor_egy> fat32
[08:45] <Noor_egy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/648552/
[08:46] <Noor_egy> this is all partions i have
[08:46] <nit-wit> Noor_egy, iwhere is the sdb drive
[08:46] <Noor_egy> sdb ?
[08:46] <Noor_egy> i have sda
[08:46] <Noor_egy> only
[08:47] <nit-wit> Noor_egy,  menuentry "Windows 7 (on /dev/sdb1)
[08:47] <Noor_egy> what do u mean
[08:47] <wols_> XubuntuDilemma: very few people speak scandinavian and it's kinda hard to interpret only a screenshot
[08:47] <wols_> Noor_egy: line 206 and following in your grub.cfg paste
[08:48] <Noor_egy> wols_ i dont know
[08:48] <Noor_egy> and im not installed 7
[08:48] <Noor_egy> only xp
[08:49] <wols_> Noor_egy: these lines where added manually. no ubuntu program would have added them. run "file -s /dev/sda1"
[08:50] <XubuntuDilemma> but there's no need to understand the scandinavic thing there
[08:50] <XubuntuDilemma> you see the screenshot wols_ , the window edges are fucked and there should be three (3) desktops rather than 1
[08:51] <XubuntuDilemma> this happens to me after a week or so usage of a user, than I make a new user and the problem does not follow until after some usage
[08:51] <Noor_egy> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/648927/
[08:51] <XubuntuDilemma> I'm thinking that chaning the themes and stuff might make it happen so now I'm testing so that I try to edit the outlook of my Xubuntu as little as possibl
[08:51] <XubuntuDilemma> e
[08:52] <XubuntuDilemma> I have dualboot Xubuntu and Windows 7
[08:52] <XubuntuDilemma> changeing* .. :D
[08:54] <Noor_egy> hmm
[08:55] <XubuntuDilemma> hmm hmm
[08:55] <Noor_egy> :)
[08:55] <Noor_egy> i'm really in mess :/
[08:55] <XubuntuDilemma> I guess I should it something now
[08:55] <XubuntuDilemma> ->
[08:55] <Noor_egy> cant handel this
[08:55] <andantino> lubuntu is joining the family sometime this year right?
[08:55] <iceroot> andantino: 11.10 is the goal
[08:56] <Peet> hi everyone
[08:56] <andantino> its a nice distro
[08:56] <Noor_egy> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/648927/
[08:56] <Peet> some one  use IBM iSeriesAccess?
[08:56] <andantino> 11.10 makes it like a birthday present for me
[08:57] <iceroot> andantino: lxde is a good alternate to gnome2 which will be skipped in 11.10
[08:57] <iceroot> andantino: and maybe its the only alternate too....
[08:58] <jatt> hi, I want to install python 2.6 and python 2.7 in the same environment how can I do it and switch between both versions?
[08:58] <andantino> so 11.10 wont have the classic desktop anymore?
[08:58] <rayne> I'm on lubuntu now, lovin' it, it's the best distro i have tried so far. Very comfortable with it, although i am still just a linux noob
[08:58] <andantino> i have lubuntu on my old desktop
[08:58] <greg__> hey Peet!
[08:58] <andantino> its over ten years old
[08:58] <andantino> runs very well
[08:58] <tomodachi> jatt: if they are both in the package manage then its easy. the command python2.6 will give you that version and python2.7 the other
[08:59] <rayne> want to install it on my laptop, which is about as old. everything else runs too slowly to use on it
[08:59] <owner> hi
[08:59] <andantino> my old computer did have some ram added at some poiint though
[08:59] <andantino> but its only 512 now
[09:00] <rayne> not done anything to upgrade my old laptop, but luckily it started with 512, so should be good for lubuntu
[09:00] <andantino> yup
[09:00] <andantino> runs pretty well on mine
[09:01] <andantino> really impressed with it
[09:02] <XubuntuDilemma> hmm, this Lubuntu might be worth trying
[09:02] <tobago> hey, where to get a trusting ssl certificate for free?
[09:02] <XubuntuDilemma> faster than Xubuntu ? ;)
[09:02] <andantino> lxde is supposed to be a little lighter weight
[09:02] <jatt> tomodachi: thanks will try that
[09:02] <andantino> but i think lubuntu is lighter in more ways than just the de
[09:03] <wols_> tobago: startssl
[09:03] <tomodachi> jatt: youre welcome . in your system you will also have python. wich will be a symlink to either 2.6 or 2.7
[09:03] <shadeslayer> hey, i was wondering if anyone has successfully install ubuntu on a Macbook Pro?
[09:03] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: yes many have including me.
[09:03] <Noor_egy> sorry crahsed
[09:03] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: i can't get the iso too boot off the USB :(
[09:03] <andantino> why would you want 2.6 and 2.7?
[09:03] <mang0> How much space does ubuntuone give me?
[09:03] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: what macbook do you have 13 or 15?
[09:03] <jatt> development work
[09:03] <Lasers> mang0: 2GB, I think.
[09:04] <shadeslayer> 15"
[09:04] <jatt> some feature is working on 2.6 but not on 2.7
[09:04] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: got it last night :)
[09:04] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: what gfx card in it?
[09:04] <mang0> Lasers: ah okay, thankyou
[09:04] <shadeslayer> ATi
[09:04] <andantino> i didnt think they were all that different
[09:04] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: it doesent boot at all? or it hangs during boot?
[09:04] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: it gives me a "OS not found" when booting the USB
[09:04] <Maneta> I quite like the puppy linux XubuntuDilemma
[09:04] <andantino> not a slight change in syntax?
[09:05] <XubuntuDilemma> Oh Maneta , I'v heard that one is quite cool also
[09:05] <andantino> oh yeah puppy is fast
[09:05] <andantino> but not a very great repository
[09:05] <Maneta> I have instaled one on a Linutop its a 500 Mhz proc itx computer
[09:05] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: strange never had that problem
[09:05] <Maneta> the instalation with all the plugins 380 mb +-
[09:06] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: could you give me the instructions you followed?
[09:06] <zykes-> anyone here tried Ubuntu 11.04 on a Lenovo T510 laptop and Nvidia GT218 ? / NVS 3100M
[09:06] <zykes-> having some issues with Xorg not wanting to start, the nvidia module is loaded in the kernel
[09:06] <XubuntuDilemma> btw, if I have done partioning of the disks, does this mean that after I uninstall the part where Xubuntu is, it will stay empty as long as you either partion it again or install something to it
[09:06] <zykes-> But when i start the X server it says "No device detected".
[09:07] <abady> hi everyone
[09:07] <abady> i had problem
[09:07] <andantino> you are going to scrap xubuntu now?
[09:07] <XubuntuDilemma> abady, good, than you dont have it anymore
[09:07] <abady> can any body help me
[09:07] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: i have to admin i read a couple of them but didnt follow any of them really. Theres quite some documentation though. Did you try both efi and "normal boot"? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro is the link
[09:07] <XubuntuDilemma> adantino, maybe
[09:07] <andantino> is it causing you any problems
[09:08] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: im using my macbook in efi mode.
[09:08] <andantino> ?
[09:08] <zykes-> Nvidia driver 275.x
[09:08] <XubuntuDilemma> the uninstallion? well, not yet because I'm not starting to do so
[09:08] <andantino> id go for lubuntu over puppy....puppy is purty darn fast but everything is outdated
[09:08] <XubuntuDilemma> hehe oh ok
[09:08] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: sorry, what?
[09:09] <XubuntuDilemma> I'd like to see youtube vids and flash content so I guess Puppy would handle that?
[09:09] <andantino> oh ya puppy can do that
[09:09] <abady> with bluetooth driver
[09:09] <andantino> but like the browsers for instace are
[09:09] <andantino> like 3 years behind or somehting
[09:09] <Maneta> XubuntuDilemma, yeah for sure
[09:09] <XubuntuDilemma> heh oh ok
[09:09] <Maneta> it has a flash plugin
[09:10] <andantino> are you dual booting xubuntu?
[09:10] <Maneta> or you should try the browser linux witch is based on puppy linux XubuntuDilemma
[09:10] <XubuntuDilemma> yep
[09:10] <Maneta> it comes with flash
[09:10] <andantino> ok
[09:10] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: the macbook doeent really have a pc bios or anything. It uses something called EFI. it gives some nice features (like access to both my gfx card etc) but you also lose some features. Read about it on the ubuntu wikis. But if you want to try to boot the laptop from the usb in efi mode i think you need to install refit in macosx first
[09:10] <XubuntuDilemma> thanks Maneta, maybe I will
[09:10] <andantino> ya puppy has flash
[09:10] <andantino> id still give lubuntu a shot first though
[09:11] <babilen> XubuntuDilemma: A common misconception seems to be that you have to install a specific release in order to get the associated window manager. (Kubuntu for KDE, Xubuntu for XFCE, ...). You can, however, easily install any of those on every Ubuntu or Debian installation. There is no need for a reinstall.
[09:11] <Maneta> http://www.browserlinux.com/
[09:11] <XubuntuDilemma> thanks Maneta
[09:11] <Maneta> http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
[09:11] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: i've done all of that
[09:11] <shadeslayer> i've installed refit and everything
[09:11] <XubuntuDilemma> and babilen, yeh, I'v heard about it and looked some instructions
[09:11] <shadeslayer> still couldn't get it to work
[09:12] <andantino> ive had problems though with installing other environments on ubuntu
[09:12] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: do you get two boot options for linux from the usb stick?
[09:12] <andantino> particularly lxde
[09:12] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: yes, but after that i can't get GRUB to load
[09:13] <andantino> a lot of things would not work right, and then you end up with bloated menus
[09:13] <XubuntuDilemma> but I'm not sure how my problem would leave..that's why I'm considering either re-install or diffirent distro
[09:13] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: sorry this is something wich is new to me. Ive installed it on a couple of macbooks (a bit older than yours though) but never had this specific issue
[09:13] <andantino> your problem is things are running to slowly?
[09:13] <XubuntuDilemma> noo
[09:13] <shadeslayer> hmm
[09:14] <andantino> your problem is you dont like the letter x?
[09:14] <XubuntuDilemma> but that after some usage, my settings go f-ed up like this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/kuvakaappaus21072011093.png/
[09:14] <shadeslayer> tomodachi: i'm using the amd64+mac iso and used usbcreator to create the image
[09:14] <shadeslayer> dunno if that helps
[09:14] <XubuntuDilemma> don't mind the finnish there, but you see that the edges of the window dissapear and my desktops are not 3 as I'v putted it
[09:14] <mang0> I've got dropbox installed, but the icon in the menu bar isn't coloured: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=15272 Is it supposed to be like that?
[09:14] <tomodachi> shadeslayer: does the usb / iso work on any other computer?
[09:14] <shadeslayer> yep
[09:15] <shadeslayer> works fine on another Dell PC
[09:15] <bhavesh> Looks like people didn't like Ubuntu 11.04 as much as 10.10 , http://i.imgur.com/0i24t.png
[09:15] <XubuntuDilemma> I'm supriced that this has not come to anyones elses problem :D
[09:15] <mang0> bhavesh: people don't like the unity interface
[09:16] <XubuntuDilemma> and the windows (not OS) dont resize
[09:16] <mang0> but they don't realise you can use classic (as I do)
[09:16] <shadeslayer> i'll be back later in a hour or so
[09:16] <andantino> i havent had that problem with xubuntu
[09:17] <bhavesh> mang0: but even classic interface gives you tool bar on the panel?
[09:17] <XubuntuDilemma> andantino, oh ok.
[09:17] <mang0> bhavesh: true, but that's nothing big...
[09:17] <bhavesh> right
[09:17] <andantino> do you just use the computer to watch vids and do a little chatting etc?
[09:18] <XubuntuDilemma> yep
[09:18] <andantino> well puppy might do alright
[09:18] <XubuntuDilemma> some writing and exe files also
[09:19] <andantino> but like i said, lubuntu works pretty well on my old clunker
[09:19] <XubuntuDilemma> there are so many puppys btw :o
[09:19] <XubuntuDilemma> :D
[09:19] <XubuntuDilemma> ok
[09:20] <andantino> and it has a lot more packages
[09:20] <Rouse> why i cant access start up disk  creator
[09:21] <jay_> no idea but i just got fucked windows got erased for this piece of shit xubutu >.<
[09:21] <bazhang> jay_, no cursing
[09:21] <Noor_egy> wheni do update-grub it gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/648942/
[09:21] <jay_> sorry
[09:21] <tomodachi> http://fotografiska.eu/Museet/Utstaellningar/Robert-Mapplethorpe
[09:21] <Noor_egy> and i cant log to my windows
[09:21] <tomodachi> opps sory wrong window
[09:21] <bazhang> tomodachi, dont paste here please
[09:21] <manning> How painful is it to get the latest release running on a MacBook Pro?
[09:22] <wols_> Noor_egy: have you tried to mount /dev/sda1?
[09:22] <tomodachi> manning: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[09:22] <wols_> Noor_egy: or checked if it's mounted already?
[09:22] <jay_> does xubutu have a iso burner..?
[09:22] <XubuntuDilemma> jay_, you didn't like Xubunut?
[09:23] <Noor_egy> wols_ mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:23] <zykes-> noone having any problems with that chip!?
[09:23] <jay_> no it got rid of my windows 7 and im new to duel boot
[09:23] <Myrtti> jay_: I can't remember if Brasero is preinstalled, but it's nice app
[09:23] <andantino> i didnt like xu, but i cant remember why
[09:23] <tomodachi> jay_: i would say most distributions has cdrecord , wich can record a iso with the command "cdrecord myiso.iso"
[09:23] <wols_> Noor_egy: then mount it manually
[09:23] <XubuntuDilemma> Xfburn is on Xubuntu
[09:23] <Noor_egy> how
[09:23] <Noor_egy> ?
[09:23] <Noor_egy> sorry im new
[09:23] <llutz_> jay_: growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/media/your.iso" or "wodim your.iso"
[09:24] <andantino> how old is your computer jay
[09:24] <wols_> zykes-: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[09:24] <jay_> i have no idea what that means llutz agond i got it 2 years a
[09:24] <jay_> and
[09:24] <SimpleAnecdote> Hi guys. Trying to sort out iptables but the server outputs "-bash: iptables: command not found - any thoughts?
[09:24] <andantino> you lost windows?
[09:24] <jay_> yeah idk what to 2
[09:24] <Noor_egy> wols_ how could i mount it manually hmm im kinda new
[09:24] <andantino> you probably have a recovery partition on there
[09:24] <andantino> but do you have a repair disc
[09:25] <llutz_> SimpleAnecdote: sudo apt-get install iptables
[09:25] <jay_> it got rid of everrrry thing and no
[09:25] <wols_> Noor_egy: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[09:25] <mang0> !grub-repair
[09:25] <mang0> hrm
[09:25] <andantino> what type of computah
[09:25] <wols_> !fixmbr
[09:25] <mang0> ah
[09:25] <mang0> tahnkyou
[09:26] <SimpleAnecdote> llutz: Hilarious! Cheers! I really thought iptables came by default on all Ubuntu > 8.04
[09:26] <Noor_egy> wols_ : i did mounted it but still same message
[09:26] <andantino> i erased windows by accident like a 100 times
[09:26] <andantino> and im a noob
[09:26] <llutz_> SimpleAnecdote: i would have thought too...
[09:26] <jay_> im downloading windows now its just the activation key im worried about how do i get one of those..?
[09:27] <Wally> You buy it
[09:27] <bazhang> jay_, thats offtopic here
[09:27] <jay_> >.<
[09:27] <dresden_> I am sure walmart will sell you one
[09:27] <bazhang> !piracy > jay_
[09:27] <dresden_> :P
[09:27] <jay_> show?
[09:27] <jay_> how
[09:27] <andantino> you using a laptop jay
[09:27] <jay_> im new to this
[09:27] <bazhang> jay_, stop asking here
[09:27] <wols_> jay_: another window in your irc client
[09:27] <andantino> just pm me jay
[09:28] <bazhang> ##windows for windows support jay_
[09:28] <wols_> Noor_egy: and after you mounted it, what does "mount" say? the question is, if your XP partition is really a FAT partition
[09:28] <jay_> okay what part of im new to this does everyone not get though
[09:28] <dresden_> Well, you go to the store, then you pick up the box, then you go to the cash registers, then you give the box to them, they will ask you for the money. then.. you give them the money and they will give you the box... see nothing to it.
[09:28] <bazhang> jay_, what part of this is ubuntu support not windows, do you not understand
[09:29] <bazhang> jay_, /join ##windows
[09:29] <wols_> jay_: what part of the repeated tries to show you the error of your ways are you ignoring? if you ignore a few more you will be kickbanned. a few more about asking for windows serials and you will be klined (removed from the whole irc network). capisce?
[09:29] <Phalstaff> Opinions wanted:  What are the best terminal emulators?
[09:29] <wols_> !best
[09:29] <Noor_egy> wols_ its fat32 http://paste.ubuntu.com/648948/
[09:30] <wols_> Noor_egy: I said "mount" for a reason and NOT fdisk
[09:30] <Phalstaff> !best
[09:30] <Noor_egy> wols_: i did mounted it and it didnt give me any message
[09:30] <mang0> jay_: /join ##windows
[09:31] <wols_> Noor_egy: if you run "mount" it will give you some output
[09:31] <Rouse> tell some software to create live usb
[09:31] <Noor_egy> wols_ :mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt
[09:31] <bazhang> Rouse, unetbootin
[09:31] <wols_> Rouse: ubuntu already is a live ISO. just dd it over to your usb stick
[09:31] <wols_> Noor_egy: run the EXACT command: "mount". no more no less
[09:31] <llutz_> Noor_egy: pure "mount <enter>" without any options
[09:32] <llutz_> wols_: ubuntu.iso aren't hybrid, dd won't work
[09:32] <Rouse> like startup disk creator..suggest some other software
[09:32] <wols_> llutz_: sorry. mea culpa
[09:32] <zykotick9> wols_, are you sure about the Ubuntu cd being hybrid?  I thought I read recently that with 11.10 Ubuntu would make that transition.
[09:32] <bazhang> Rouse, I just did, unetbootin
[09:32] <Noor_egy> wols_ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/648950/ sorry for misunderstood
[09:33] <llutz_> i guess its the last distro not using hybrid-iso now... :(
[09:33] <andantino> hey jay
[09:33] <jay__> hey
[09:34] <wols_> Noor_egy: grub errors when it tries to treat your XP partition as FAT32 for some reason or other. my guess was it's actually NTFS but apparently I was wrong :(
[09:34] <Noor_egy> umm :/ so
[09:35] <Noor_egy> so no way to fix this ???
[09:35] <Top-top> Hey guys. Doest anybody know which algorithm is set by default for the encryption of the home portion in ubuntu?
[09:36] <gabdantas> is there a way to set up proxy with authentication to the whole system (ubuntu 11.04)! The util proxy lan wont set to the whole system (at least console)
[09:36] <Noor_egy> so lows_ u didnt got the propleme
[09:37] <wols_> gabdantas: iptables transparent proxy
[09:37] <wols_> gabdantas: if you need to proxy every protocol it gets tricky tho
[09:38] <guest_> So I have a program that uses OSS, Ubuntu 10.10 and greater don't come with OSS.  There won't be any updates to this program and I don't want to recompile the kernel...  What are users with OSS programs meant to do now?
 at least http protocol
[09:38] <wols_> guest_: use alsa?
[09:39] <guest_> wols_, it's OSS
[09:39] <tomodachi> guest_: padsp - pulseaudio oss wrapper can help you
[09:39] <wols_> guest_: use oss4
[09:39] <guest_> tomodachi, doesn't the wrapper only help if you have oss on in the first place?
[09:40] <gabdantas> wois_ : i need to change constantly from proxy (at work) to direct connection (home)
[09:40] <tomodachi> guest_: i have pads on ubuntu natty. dont have any packages installed with oss in their name. or any oss module loaded that i can find
[09:41] <guest_> tomodachi, I've already tried padsp and still get no sound though
[09:42] <ossie_> hello
[09:42] <tomodachi> guest_: well legacy stuff. Either someone will rewrite your app with pulseaudio suport. Or you will have to find a replacement
[09:43] <guest_> tomodachi, there is no replacement and no they won't rewrite i
[09:43] <guest_> *it
[09:43] <tomodachi> then dont upgrade
[09:43] <guest_> what upgrade?
[09:44] <tomodachi> to a newer release that dont support oss
[09:44] <guest_> anyone with a more useful suggestion
[09:44] <faLUCE> hi. Is there a good program with GUI that allows me to perform actions on certain conditions?   something like a GUI where I enter " when date is "12-12-2013" execute script1, execute script2" Briefly, something like an editor for scripts, but user friendly
[09:44] <tomodachi> guest_: maybe virtualization?
[09:45] <guest_> useful and sane - this is a game after all
[09:45] <tomodachi> faLUCE: crontab can do this. But its not gui. Once you understand the syntax its not hard though
[09:46] <faLUCE> tomodachi: I would like something simpler than crontab
[09:46] <Top-top> Does anybody know which algorithm is set by default for the encryption of the home portion in ubuntu?
[09:47] <tomodachi> faLUCE: then i dont know im afraid
[09:47] <tomodachi> faLUCE: http://www.corntab.com/
[09:47] <dresden_> You must embrace the cron tab.. its your friend!
[09:50] <TheExplorer> Hello everyone. I have a question. In ubuntu, my USB drives and devices will not accurately measure transfer rate, and appear slow. It will have a bar at `1% then vanish, perhaps completed but is still abnormal. Is this common?
[09:51] <Rickyboy1008> Any news on natty working on an intel gma 4500m?
[10:00] <noobie25> i tried installing nvidia drivers, not my window hangs on the "ubuntu" load screen.
[10:01] <noobie25> i tried installing nvidia drivers, *now my window hangs on the "ubuntu" load screen.  Can anyone help?
[10:01] <wols_> noobie25: from nvidia.com?
[10:02] <noobie25> wols_: yes.  it didn't work, so after i uninstalled rivers...it hangs.
[10:02] <wols_> rescue boot then
[10:03] <noobie25> wols_: how do i go about doing a rescue boot?   with the livecd?
[10:07] <gabdantas> does anyone know a good softphone for ubuntu like x-lite for windows?
[10:07] <silare> How do I re-enable Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill X in Natty?
[10:10] <faLUCE> tomodachi: the problem is that: I would like to create scripts that are activated when a signal is got.    For example: when I run firefox linux has to run script1, when I run gedit linux has to run script2
[10:10] <nkh> silare: Try just like older versions and tell me if natty is so or not :D : Keyboard > Layout > Options
[10:11] <nkh> silare: Key Sequence to Kill Xserver
[10:11] <nkh> silare: Is it There?
[10:11] <silare> nkh: Ah, it is. Worked perfectly. =D Thank you.
[10:11] <nkh> silare: your welcome, good luck
[10:11] <mang0> Does the built in calculator in Ubuntu not have % option?!
[10:11] <silare> Out of curiosity, is there a way to make it so when I type in Japanese it'll turn my romaji into kana (similar to Mac)?
[10:11] <mang0> I can't see it..
[10:12] <nkh> mang0:  yes
[10:12] <mang0> Yes it does on yes, you're agreeing with me that it doesn't?
[10:12] <mang0> or*
[10:12] <k_sze> The man page of pppd says that linkname is a "privileged option". Does it mean that it won't work when pppd is setuid and called by a non-root user?
[10:12] <nkh> mang0: you mean percent or mod ?
[10:13] <mang0> like, nkh on a normal calculator irl, you get the % symbol on a key...i need to use that (or the equiv)
[10:14] <nkh> mang0: I can see that here :-?? Mode > Basic > it is between + and . buttons :-??
[10:14] <mang0> nkh: I'll look, but I couldn't see it before
[10:15] <silare> Despite playing with regedit, I couldn't get WINE to antialias its fonts. Is there a better way to do this?
[10:15] <mang0> haha, nkh I was in advanced mode
[10:15] <mang0> thanks
[10:15] <mang0> :P
[10:15] <nkh> mang0: So if you failed, try Mode > Scientific or So ...
[10:15] <nkh> mang0: Haaahaa :D Good Luck ;)
[10:15] <mang0> Thanks
[10:15] <nkh> Your Welcome
[10:15] <mang0> I need it cuz I'm learning Python, and I want to check this equasion XD
[10:15] <mang0> and I can't find my actual calculator
[10:16] <nkh> mang0: ?!
[10:16] <mang0> nkh: ???
[10:16] <exs> does anyony know what cp -a dows?
[10:16] <nkh> mang0: I think python is a powerfull claculator too :d no need to that ! :-/ :-?? ;)
[10:17] <mang0> nkh: yeah, I'm learning how to use python as a calculator, so I'm testing various things
[10:17] <mang0> ;)
[10:17] <mang0|AFK> be back soon
[10:17] <nkh> ;)
[10:17] <dr_willis> exs:  check man cp ?  same as -dR --preserve=all
[10:17] <exs> yea
[10:17] <exs> i know
[10:17] <exs> but what means that
[10:18] <exs> -d     same as --no-dereference --preserve=links
[10:18] <exs> copy directories recursively is clear
[10:18] <dr_willis> if perserces system links...  ie:  from ln -s foo bar
[10:19] <Top-top> Does anybody know which algorithm is set by default for the encryption of the home portion in ubuntu?
[10:19] <pravinkenator> Hello, I have a small clarification in using xorg.conf
[10:20] <pravinkenator> can some one please help me
[10:20] <SwedeMike> !ask | pravinkenator
[10:21] <pravinkenator> I have a supermicro server and it is connected to a fermi (s2050) grapic card .. When i try to startx it gives an error, fatal no screens found
[10:22] <pravinkenator> the server has a seperate vga card for output. Hoe to configure the xorg to use this for display
[10:22] <pravinkenator> ?
[10:23] <thegoodcushion> evening all
[10:23] <pravinkenator> My lspci | grep VGA gives me : 15:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G200eW WPCM450 (rev 0a) How to put this in the xorg to use this for display ?
[10:24] <thegoodcushion> I realize that I can remove any file at the command line with rm filename.  Is there a version of rm that completely wipes all trace of the file?
[10:24] <GillesMM> hello I have created my own ubuntu distrib and suppressed some package but I would to add som extra package made by myself .. I don't understand how to generate extra packages the doc is unclear for me ..
[10:24] <JimXL> thegoodcushion not really
[10:24] <ikonia> GillesMM: we don't support custom spins here
[10:25] <GillesMM> ikonia:  is there a channel for that ?
[10:25] <Slart> thegoodcushion: there are some utilities.. wipe is one such.. not really 100% sure it works of separate files though
[10:25] <ikonia> GillesMM: not that I'm aware of
[10:25] <JimXL> There are utilities that claim to do it, but it's always possible the data is cached on disk somewhere that you might not know about.
[10:26] <Omsniffiscent> Riddle me this. My mouse started jittering (moving when I wasn't moving it) so I swapped mice. Same thing. I switched to my Wacom pad. Same thing. It's got to be software related, right?
[10:26] <JimXL> shred - overwrite a file to hide its contents, and optionally delete it
[10:27] <JimXL> Not necessarily,  try another usb port.
[10:27] <Younder> The last space shuttle has landed.
[10:27] <Omsniffiscent> I have, front and back.
[10:27] <JimXL> Reboot?
[10:27] <Omsniffiscent> Several times.
[10:27] <Omsniffiscent> As we speak my mouse is sliding across the screen.
[10:27] <JimXL> Power cycle?
[10:28] <Slart> thegoodcushion: here's the man page for wipe.. it has some discussion about some of the issues regarding securely deleting anything http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/wipe.1.html
[10:28] <Omsniffiscent> Power what now?
[10:28] <JimXL> turn it off/on
[10:28] <JimXL> The computer.
[10:28] <Omsniffiscent> Ah, yes. Completely off. Let it sit. Turned it back on.
[10:29] <JimXL> Boot a live cd.
[10:29] <Younder> duh, that's the best you got?
[10:29] <thegoodcushion> Slart: well I don't need a CIA wipe.  Just a room-mate-defeating wipe
[10:29] <Omsniffiscent> My Wacom pad has a 1:1 ratio. If my mouse doesn't move it shouldn't move the cursor.
[10:29] <JimXL> wipe or shred will do it.
[10:29] <Younder> Omsniffiscent, no shit
[10:29] <Slart> thegoodcushion: then wipe, or shread that JimXL mentioned, would work out just fine
[10:29] <Omsniffiscent> lol
[10:29] <tomek__> hi i need movie editing software . what do u recommend?
[10:30] <JimXL> Omsniffiscent boot a live cd to eleminate a hw problem.
[10:30] <JimXL> A Mac.
[10:31] <thegoodcushion> Slart: note in the man page the conspiracy rubbish down the bottom
[10:31] <Omsniffiscent> I'll see if I can scrounge up a cd, thanks.
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> When you boot from a live CD, is it possible to create files within the filesystem at all?
[10:32] <Slart> thegoodcushion: yes.. I've read it... some people use a lot of tin foil
[10:32] <JimXL> Yes
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> JimXL: where does it go?
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> JimXL: If I boot from a live CD and type echo hello > text.txt
[10:32] <thegoodcushion> where is it stored?
[10:32] <JimXL> Depending on the cd, you should be able to mount a filesystem.
[10:32] <JimXL> In ram most likely
[10:32] <noobie25> screen hangs on 'ubuntu startup screen' after i tried installing nvidia drivers.   can someone help me recover using livecd?
[10:33] <tomek__> anyone uses movie editing software on ubuntu?
[10:34] <Guest71162> Avidemux
[10:34] <JimXL> thegoodcushion If you want to edit/create a file on your file system, you'll need to mount it.  Some live cds will do that automatically
[10:34] <Younder> Omsniffiscent, sounds serious like a hardware fault
[10:34] <JimXL> And some defer the mount until you click on a desktop link to the file system.
[10:36] <Omsniffiscent> I've had this issue with wireless mice but that's to be expected. It's very odd for sure.
[10:37] <reprapperMC> Lubuntu room is empty. Any one here?
[10:37] <alberto> Hello everyone
[10:37] <thegoodcushion> JimXL: so by 'mount' what does that mean?
[10:37] <thegoodcushion> JimXL: If I just want to create a file, where does it end up?
[10:37] <JimXL> noobie25 you could boot a live cd and do a chroot to your root file system and try a dpkg --remove <package>
[10:37] <reprapperMC> I'm trying to share internet through ethernet connection. One comp is connected wirelessly, and I want to share that with another comp
[10:38] <JimXL> thegoodcushion It will end up in ram
[10:38] <thegoodcushion> ok
[10:38] <thegoodcushion> of course it won't persist after I turn off the computer
[10:38] <JimXL> When a live cd boots, it makes a ram filesystem
[10:38] <reprapperMC> I have "shared to other computers" turned on, on the wireless computer in the ethernet connection, but the two still will not connect.
[10:38] <JimXL> Uses ram as disk.
[10:39] <JimXL> It will go away when you reboot.
[10:39] <alberto> I'm having some serious problems with my TFT monitor. The thing is it has three main visualization modes (Movies, Text and Economic). Well, as long as I keep the Movies mode activated everything works fine, but as soon as I change it or lower the brightness, a strange noise appears along with annoying horizontal lines... Any ideas?
[10:39] <JimXL> thegoodcushion mount is the command you use to take a disk partition and make it available for use (read or write)
[10:39] <alberto> I've already checked the connections and everything's ok.
[10:39] <thegoodcushion> JimXL: well yes
[10:39] <Slart> alberto: faulty hardware.. ie broken monitor
[10:40] <thegoodcushion> but surely / is mounted always
[10:40] <thegoodcushion> how can you not have a /
[10:40] <JimXL> thegoodcushion It's always mounted, right.
[10:40] <JimXL> But on a live cd, a ram file system is mounted on /
[10:40] <alberto> Slart Yes, that's what I think. I came into this channel because no one answers me in #hardware
[10:40] <Slart> alberto: many monitors have some kind of electronic hum when you lower the brightness so that's not very worrying.. but adding horizontal lines on the screen is not common and would make me worry
[10:41] <the_hulk> is there any know problem installing ubuntu 11.4 on windows 64 bit in virtual box?
[10:41] <JimXL> So if your root file system is on /dev/sda1 you could mount /dev/sda1 /mnt;cd /mnt;cat >x.txt    for instance.
[10:41] <backtracklover> hello i got problem here in the wieless card
[10:41] <backtracklover> im using ubuntu 10.4
[10:41] <alberto> Slart The lines even scroll up :(
[10:42] <backtracklover> when i connect to the internet using my atheros wireless card its very slow
[10:42] <backtracklover> very slow when i surf the net
[10:42] <Slart> alberto: sounds like something inside your monitor isn't happy.. I would put it in movie mode and be happy while it works
[10:42] <backtracklover> why
[10:42] <Slart> alberto: or send it back if you've got some guarantee left
[10:42] <alberto> Slart I don't :(
[10:43] <alberto> Slart It hurts my eyes having to look at the monitor with such a high brightness.
[10:43] <JimXL> alberto wear dark glasses?
[10:44] <Slart> alberto: yup.. most monitors these days are very bright at the default setting.. not really sure if you can do anything about it from a software point of view.. use some weird gnome theme or set the theme colors to something a bit more greyish
[10:45] <alberto> Slart Thank you
[10:46] <Top-top> Does anybody know which algorithm is set by default for the encryption of the home portion in ubuntu?
[10:47] <ivs> my guess would be AES
[10:48] <Slart> Top-top: this seems like it might be helpful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1532105
[10:52] <AFD> n00b question: how do I check when a folder was last modified from terminal?
[10:53] <AFD> by that I meant the contents of a foler
[10:53] <noobie25> is there a best way to install my nvidia drivers?
[10:54] <noobie25> i've been killing my bootup all this time and finally got it working.
[10:54] <noobie25> i finally got it to boot, but don't know how to go about installing the nvidia drivers.
[10:55] <Top-top> Slart: thx
[10:55] <AFD> noobie25 - it might depend on your hardware
[10:55] <AFD> noobie25 some people recommend using official drivers, others non-official ones
[10:55] <noobie25> AFD: i'd like to follow any advice you give me... what should i do?
[10:56] <thrillERboy> Hi, If I install Ubuntu with root (/) and /home in different partitions, Am I better off, when Ubuntu crashes?
[10:56] <AFD> noobie25 well I have Nvidia Ion2 and the official nvidia drivers break my boot if I install them
[10:56] <thrillERboy> Since I can re-install OS on / without touching /home, where all user files live
[10:56] <AFD> noobie25 so I use generic drivers (I think!)
[10:57] <arfbtwn> thrillERboy: your data is safe if the system breaks. correct.
[10:57] <JimXL> thrillERboy Nothing wrong with that/
[10:57] <ThinkT510> thrillERboy: both partitions will need to be checked if there is a crash
[10:57] <JimXL> I've been doing it for years.
[10:58] <thrillERboy> ThinkT510: then How do I only reinstall the OS without touching user data?
[10:58] <JimXL> But you're more likely to want to upgrade an os rather than reinstall.
[10:59] <AFD> noobie25 if you can research your gpu model by googling "gpu_model_name ubuntu" and see what experiences others have with the various drivers you will likely have the best performing system without breaking any boot stuff
[11:00] <thrillERboy> sometimes ubuntu breaks and all I can see is the grub menu, those times I'm left with no options that to reinstall
[11:00] <ThinkT510> thrillERboy: by installing it normally, but when you specify the /home partition don't format it and make sure you use the same username
[11:00] <JimXL> thrillERboy boot the install cd and configure the parttioner to use your existing home and NOT reformat it.
[11:00] <wols_> thrillERboy: no
[11:00] <Sahootra> anyone here can help me with ubuntu11.04 stuck at boot
[11:00] <Sahootra> ?
[11:00] <thrillERboy> Great Thanks a ton JimXL and ThinkT510
[11:01] <wols_> noobie25: unless you have very good reasons (and if you have to ask you pretty much never do), you use the drivers ubuntu uses. either the free ones or the restricted ones
[11:01] <Sahootra> Hi guys.. can you help me out with my ubuntu boot stuck problem
[11:01] <thrillERboy> Sahootra: What happens exactly
[11:01] <AFD> can anyone tell me how to check the date+time when a folder or it's contents was last modified?
[11:01] <ThinkT510> thrillERboy: no worries, but like wols_ points out, its not your only option to reinstall
[11:01] <JimXL> AFD ls -l
[11:01] <Sahootra> was running ok for last 2 weeks..
[11:01] <wols_> AFD: check mtime
[11:01] <Sahootra> not when i boot it stucks at the boot screen..
[11:02] <Sahootra> when i see the log by running into recovery mode
[11:02] <thrillERboy> I'm not that good with Grup CLI
[11:02] <Sahootra> it stucks at Running /scripts/init-bottom .. done..
[11:02] <Sahootra> then it shows list of Bad Target number..
[11:02] <Sahootra> and Bad LUN (0:1)
[11:02] <noobie25> wols_:  thanks.   i'm happy to use the opensource ones.....
[11:02] <lartza> Is there a smaller server iso? 655 is too big for my disc :)
[11:02] <JimXL> Sahootra boot a live cd and run fsck on the partition.
[11:02] <lartza> Like an netinstall server iso?
[11:02] <ThinkT510> thrillERboy: the grub documentation is very straightforward for ubuntu
[11:02] <wols_> noobie25: do you want 3D?
[11:02] <thrillERboy> Even ls doesn't works in Grub, I know its lame to use ls on a bootloader, but I'm just saying, I'm lost If I See grub CLI :D
[11:03] <noobie25> wols_: these are the instructions i found on the web....3 commands.   is this okay??   sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:03] <Sahootra> ok what is the problem can you explain in one line ?
[11:03] <noobie25> wols_:   yes, i'd like 3D to use openGL.
[11:03] <thrillERboy> ThinkT510: May be I'll learn my way around it, someday. I know reinstalling OS is just lame.
[11:03] <wols_> noobie25: it's not OK. I said drivers ubuntu comes with. not any ppas
[11:03] <wols_> noobie25: then free drivers can't really be used. you will need proprietary drivers.
[11:04] <noobie25> wols_:  how can i abort current installation?
[11:04] <wols_> !tell noobie25 about nvidia
[11:04] <noobie25> wols_:   thanks for sending in that link
[11:04] <noobie25> is there a way i can abort my current installation then????
[11:04] <wols_> sangha: what happens if you boot recovery mode directly from the grub menu?
[11:05] <wols_> noobie25: ctrl+c
[11:05] <ThinkT510> !mini | lartza
[11:05] <wols_> but it depends what you already did so far noobie25
[11:05] <noobie25> is there a safe revert i may be able to do?
[11:06] <lartza> ThinkT510: Oh yea the minimal cd, thanks
[11:06] <noobie25> wols_: i think it was only downloading, and no installation took place yet
[11:06] <lartza> ThinkT510: Alternate was even bigger than server iso so no help there :/
[11:06] <ThinkT510> lartza: no worries :)
[11:08] <vladnos> yo
[11:09] <noobie25> wols_:  so if i'm reading correctly the link you sent,  i can go to "administrator->additional drivers" and 'ACTIVATE' the NVIDIA driver to use the proprietary one?
[11:11] <wols_> yes
[11:12] <neology> are there any good tools for testing mobile websites on ubuntu?
[11:13] <goodtime> testing mobile websites on ubuntu?google it
[11:13] <dr_willis> android emulators perhaps
[11:13] <Sahootra> any body here can help me out with ubuntu 11.04 boot problem ?
[11:14] <dr_willis> state the issue to the channel and see who can help
[11:14] <goodtime> http://blog.mfabrik.com/2011/07/08/testing-mobile-websites-with-firefox-mobile-for-pc-fennec-desktop/
[11:15] <Sahootra> installed ubuntu 11.04 two weeks ago worked perfectly untill today. now when i boot it stucks at boot screen.. with the ubutu logo and progress bar...
[11:15] <Sahootra> when i run in recovery mode it hangs showing Failed Traget. .list from 0 to seven..
[11:18] <gabdantas> hi again... did anyone tried to change the mouse cursor? for example to red glass!
[11:18] <gabdantas> mine does not change
[11:20] <Sahootra> any one ? ubuntu boot problem stuck.. last console output Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done
[11:20] <weeman2> Hi installed Ubuntu server and samba. How do I make Partitions (4 hard disks) auto mount at boot and allow full r/w access to any1 on my HTPC network
[11:20] <Sahootra> Stopping Gnome Display manager..
[11:21] <arfbtwn> Sahootra: do you get a grub menu when you boot? If it stopped working recently, could be an update caused the problem so maybe try a previous kernel.
[11:21] <Dori922> hey dudes
[11:21] <dr_willis> weeman2:  add a fstab entry for them to auto mount at boot. with proper options, then add shares to the samba config
[11:22] <weeman2> ic
[11:22] <dr_willis> what fileysstem are they weeman2
[11:23] <weeman2> ntfs
[11:23] <Dori922> have a problem with apt-get upgrade where it gets to "eucalyptus start/runnin, process 1111" and then just stays like that and doesnt give me back command prompt
[11:24] <Dori922> and if i restart most commands dont work so i have to reinstall(UEC)
[11:24] <dr_willis> you may have to twiddle with the mount options to get them accessable by all usres
[11:24] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[11:26] <Dori922> has anyone encountered that before? its really throwing me...
[11:26] <dasith> hey
[11:26] <dasith> encounterd what b4?
[11:27] <dasith> & do any of u guys knw how to get Visual basic in ubuntu ?
[11:27] <Dori922> apt-get upgrade makes system freeze and then forcing a restart makes commands unusable :(
[11:27] <dr_willis> failed ugrades van be a big problem
[11:28] <Dori922> its happened 3 times :/
[11:28] <dr_willis> but this was a normal upgrade. not from one release to a newer ine?
[11:28] <dasith> try upgrading thru  GUI
[11:28] <dasith> system > update manager
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> VisualBasic under Ubuntu?
[11:29] <dasith> yea
[11:29] <dasith> any idea how
[11:29] <Dori922> it was "sudo apt-get upgrade" but "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" does same thing im only learning UEC/Ubuntu for work recently and upgrading is one of the installation steps thats throwing me, dont want to install a GUI on the nodes/Front end :(
[11:29] <YankDownUnder> dasith, Um...have you checked out "Crossover Office" from Codeweavers?
[11:30] <dasith> nope
[11:30] <ThinkT510> or just use wine
[11:30] <YankDownUnder> dasith, Otherwise, use Virtualbox to create a VM for MS Windows and run "Windows in a Window"
[11:31] <shadeslayer> so, could someone help me get ubuntu up and running on my Macbook Pro?
[11:31] <dasith> so no realeses of Vb for ubuntu then ?
[11:32] <dasith> & i wanna knw how we can change the login screen theame & the window
[11:32] <dasith> to wat we want
[11:32] <dasith> i'm using ubuntu 10.04
[11:33] <arfbtwn> dasith: http://tinyurl.com/3wybv38
[11:34] <trinity9000> dasith: If you use VB.NET code, you can use Mono
[11:34] <trinity9000> dasith: I've done it myself, works well
[11:34] <Dori922> dr_willis: do you have any idea what could be wrong? :(
[11:34] <dasith> na  its nt .net
[11:34] <dasith> its the old version'
[11:34] <dasith> vb 6
[11:35] <saamm> hello can i enable multi touch on touchpad by installing utouch?
[11:35] <ThinkT510> !info utouch
[11:35] <aquarat> does anyone have any experience re-creating a raid6 array (due to superblocks being destroyed by grub) ?
[11:36] <saamm> ThinkT510, uhm utouch will do?
[11:36] <dasith> wats multi touch supposed 2 do
[11:36] <ThinkT510> saamm: i was curious, never used it myself
[11:38] <dasith> hey guys changing the login screen is no longer supported ?
[11:39] <trinity9000> dasith: No, there's no easy way anymore
[11:39] <dasith> in current versions
[11:39] <ThinkT510> !themes | dasith
[11:39] <dasith> :O
[11:39] <dasith> thanx
[11:39] <ThinkT510> np
[11:40] <dasith> i once tried changin that
[11:40] <dasith> & it ended up with ubuntu not lodin
[11:40] <dasith> !!
[11:41] <dasith> & then i found out that thers no easy way to repair ubuntu either
[11:41] <dasith> using CD i mean
[11:41] <Mandrew> is there a know bug that makes the 11.04 to shutdown without warning?
[11:41] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: that sounds very vague
[11:42] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, i dont know what els to say about it ;)
[11:42] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: you could search launchpad
[11:42] <wols_> dasith: just cause you were unable, doen't mean it's impossible.
[11:42] <dasith> Mandrew u could report it !
[11:42] <ThinkT510> !bugs | Mandrew
[11:43] <dasith> wols hmm yea i knw but i'm afraid i'll loose all my files again
[11:43] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, is there a way to get the file on what happened just before it crashed?
[11:44] <ThinkT510> dasith: the secret is to know what you are doing
[11:44] <Dori922> i need to discover that secret :( :P
[11:44] <Dori922> just died again :(
[11:44] <dasith> looks like i'll take around 100 years 2 discover that secret ;)
[11:45] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: could check syslog i guess
[11:45] <dasith> & any of u guys hav Nvidia optimus laptops
[11:45] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, that is a bit vague ;)
[11:45] <allballs> Good morning! I just installed a shuny new Nvidia card , and I'm not sure what command to run to get X reconfigured.
[11:45] <ThinkT510> dasith: it isn't as hard as it seems
[11:45] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, how do i do that
[11:45] <allballs> gonig from an intel 810 to Nvidia. whee.
[11:46] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, im a newbi on this ;)
[11:46] <dasith> Optimus technology isnt supported in ubuntu ?
[11:46] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: without know what caused it i can't really give you specific instructions
[11:46] <uglyoldbob> where is a good place to ask questions about GPL?
[11:46] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: /var/log/syslog
[11:47] <dasith> it just keeps draining my battery coz both nvidia & onbord intel chip runs @ the same time :O
[11:47] <arfbtwn> uglyoldbob: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[11:47] <phoenixlzx> ThinkT510: do you have NVS3100 video card?
[11:47] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: yes indeedy
[11:48] <phoenixlzx> ThinkT510: how do you get it work,do you enabled optimus?
[11:48] <uglyoldbob> hmm it is confusing to me. I am unsure how it affects a non-gpl project if I use gpl-ed hash code
[11:48] <dasith> phoenixlzx : u cant enable it in ubuntu
[11:48] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: i didn't have to do anything but install the proprietry driver
[11:48] <ironhalik> where can I find some technical help?
[11:49] <dasith> i already tried :(
[11:49] <phoenixlzx> ThinkT510: do you run nvidia-xconfig?
[11:49] <dasith> & any of u knw frm where i can download the source codes for ubuntu
[11:50] <phoenixlzx> dasith: i know a way to enable optimus...it is bumblebee
[11:50] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: xubuntu handled the install of the nvidia driver so i didn't have to do anything
[11:50] <dasith> yea i tried that too
[11:50] <arfbtwn> uglyoldbob: There's lots of documentation on that, the FAQ at the site I gave you is one place. Google it.
[11:51] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: i guess it used nvidia-xconfig
[11:51] <Dori922> if you do a "sudo apt-get upgrade eucalyptus" and euca is already at newest version could that cause the upgrade to crash?
[11:51] <phoenixlzx> but i have some odd problems...i have ThinkPad T420 with NVIDIA NVS4200M video card and fingerprint reader
[11:53] <ThinkT510> ironhalik: help with what?
[11:53] <phoenixlzx> how can i enable my HD APS and fingerprint,i mean,hdapsd do not supprot my make and fprint seems cannot use in kdm.
[11:54] <trinity9000> Dori922: No, it'll just tell you it's already up to date
[11:54] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: never use my fingerprint reader so i can't really help you there
[11:55] <phoenixlzx> ThinkT510: pity.but thank you anyway.
[11:56] <ThinkT510> phoenixlzx: i remember with my t60 the best distro for getting my fingerprint reader working was fedora, a few years ago though
[11:58] <Dori922> trinity9000:  anytime i use the upgrade command it freezes(left it for 1hour once still frozen) is it possible to run UEC  without upgrading? or is there something i need to fix
[11:58] <stercor> Where is the $PATH variable set?  I see several places; which is the one that sets it for the user process?
[11:58] <phoenixlzx> ThinkT510: yeah, i have my T43 work well either.
[11:58] <quick-> i cannot install ubunru 11.04 on amd athlon xw2  . it gives an error initramfs
[11:59] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, Have you made sure you can do normal updates prior to doing your upgrade?
[11:59] <Dori922> YankDownUnder:  i do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[12:00] <mang0> How do I go back in terminal in a dir? If I cd'd somewhere, how do i go back a folder?
[12:00] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, ...and at that point it hangs - right?
[12:00] <pseubodot> Mandrew: 'cd..' to go back up a level
[12:00] <mang0> mang0*
[12:00] <mang0> thankyou
[12:01] <pseubodot> Mandrew: correction - 'cd ..'
[12:01] <mang0> ?????
[12:01] <mang0> mandrew or mang0
[12:01] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, it died again, i checked myself but i really dont know what to look for. is that something you could help me with?
[12:01] <mang0> ah, helped me anyway, thankyou
[12:01] <mang0> lol
[12:01] <pseubodot> mang0: 'cd ..' to go back up a level
[12:01] <mang0> yeah haha
[12:01] <pseubodot> :)
[12:01] <Dori922> YankDownUnder:  it starts upgrading going through packets, then after a while it gets to a line "Eucalyptus start/running process 12345" and then hangs
[12:02] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, How long have you let it sit there...long enough...?
[12:02] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, On that same token, without knowing what Eucalyptus is, have you tried to stop that service/program prior to upgrading?
[12:02] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: you could post it to pastebin and i'll take a look, might not find anything though (i'm not very skilled)
[12:02] <Dori922> YankDownUnder:  on monday or tuesday, first time it happened, it sat for an hour, the machine is an i7 with 8gb ram
[12:03] <Mandrew> tnx ThinkT510 here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/649042/
[12:04] <Dori922> YankDownUnder:  Eucalyptus is the cloud software as far as i know, im learning to build a cloud network with UEC, im able to alt-f2 to a new terminal but when i "ps" there to kill the euca process it doesnt show in the new window
[12:04] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, Ah...nevermind...just found it. You've got a cloud service running...
[12:04] <Dori922> YankDownUnder:  yeah :(
[12:04] <YankDownUnder> Dori922, Well, prior to doing anything at all, if it were me, I'd stop or kill the service - THEN do my update/upgrade.
[12:05] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, im thinking maybe if i downgrade the distro i might get rid of the problems or upgrade the kernel could solve it, whats your take on that
[12:05] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: just looking at the syslog now
[12:05] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, or maybe i just leave you alone to help me ;)
[12:06] <Dori922> YankDownUnder: ill give that a try now
[12:07] <trinity9000> Is there an easy way to disable the global menu and new scroll bar in Unity? I dislike both features
[12:08] <Anthony25> hy trinity900
[12:08] <YankDownUnder> trinity9000, You can uninstall the scrollbars easily enough...however, the global menu is pretty much part of Unity - but that can be gotten rid of as well...
[12:08] <Anthony25> yes there is a easy way to uninstall new scrollbars
[12:08] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: check out line 999, for some reason it restarts, and again in line 1913
[12:08] <Anthony25> but for the global menu I don't know ...
[12:09] <trinity9000> YankDownUnder: Do you know which package I would uninstall? The global menu I really dislike
[12:09] <lukenukem> Do I need to create a new partition for the bootloader when installing ubuntu alongside windows?
[12:09] <YankDownUnder> trinity9000, Don't use Unity - use the Classic Desktop or use a different window manager/desktop. Otherwise, mate, yer stuck with it. Yet another reason why Unity is failing.
[12:10] <Anthony25> trinity9000 : sudo echo “export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0″ > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[12:10] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, how will we figure that out?
[12:10] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: do you have rsync set to backup your system?
[12:10] <Pici> Anthony25: or just remove the overlay-scrollbar package
[12:11] <Anthony25> and if it's sufficient you can do that : sudo apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlay-scrollbar-0.1-0
[12:11] <trinity9000> YankDownUnder: I like most features of Unity though, just find the decision to copy the Mac's global menu bizarre
[12:11] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, i got deja vu to back it up, but when i try it crashes on me, so i have not been able to do that :S
[12:11] <YankDownUnder> trinity9000, To each their own.
[12:11] <trinity9000> Anthony25: Cheers
[12:12] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, but it did crash on me even before i installed deja vu
[12:12] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: ah, deja vu must be using rsync to back up, it seems that is causing a crash
[12:12] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: interesting
[12:13] <Mandrew> ThinkT510,  ive spent many hours setting it up and i finally found a sett up i like, so it would be a shame if all that work got ruined ;)
[12:14] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: hmm, it seems to abruptly restart. does it shutdown or restart?
[12:15] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, it just shuts down on me without any warning
[12:15] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: my best guess would be it is overheating
[12:16] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, this is how i have set it up http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1649987/demo%20of%20my%20desktop.ogv i really like it :P
[12:16] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, how do i sort that? can i turn up the fans in anyway?
[12:17] <gulzar> what is the alternative of 'gnome-disk-utility' in KDE?
[12:17] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: i could be wrong mind you. does the machine feel rather hot? laptop or desktop?
[12:17] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, its a netbook that i have on external power all the time so i have no problems with less battery time ;)
[12:18] <ocx> hi, i have 1 sendmail service running for 2 domains and would like to install dovecot to only act as an imap server for 1 of the domains, how can i do that?
[12:18] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: thats how i run my t510 off the mains all the time
[12:18] <YankDownUnder> ocx, Ask in #dovecot
[12:19] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: are you doing anything processor intensive? i guess backing up might be intensive
[12:19] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: when it suddenly shuts down i mean
[12:19] <Anthony25> Mandrew : Do you have a tuto to change the global menu please ?
[12:19] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, yea it does, and i was running it on another OS and then it was showing me that the working temp was about 70- 80 deg Celsius
[12:20] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: wow that is hot
[12:20] <Mandrew> Anthony25, tuto?
[12:20] <Anthony25> tutorial
[12:21] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, yea that was what i thought but the maker of pinguyOS said that that was normal :(
[12:21] <Anthony25> sorry I am french and I thought that tuto was said in english too ^^
[12:21] <nwidger> does anyone know where i can find a .deb of thunderbird 5 beta?  preferably in a PPA.
[12:21] <Mandrew> Anthony25, as soon as im done with my help ill get back to you ok?
[12:21] <Anthony25> ok thanks
[12:22] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: sorry, i'm not sure what to suggest. do you run any other operating systems on it?
[12:22] <Mandrew> ThinkT510,  but im thinking there must be a way to turn up the fan speed
[12:22] <Anthony25> nwidger : ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable
[12:22] <Anthony25> stable version
[12:22] <gulzar> what is the alternative of 'gnome-disk-utility' in KDE?
[12:23] <Mandrew> no ThinkT510 its the only one running on my netbook right now
[12:23] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: i'd assume the fan speed would be on full anyway when it abruptly shuts off
[12:24] <Mandrew> hmm but ThinkT510 there odd to be a way to have it on full all the time, or i might be totally wrong here
[12:24] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: have you used any other os's on it previously? if so did they ever overheat and shutdown?
[12:24] <nwidger> Anthony25: thanks! :D
[12:24] <dyd> how to change user by command line?
[12:25] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, youe ive tried xubuntu 11.04 and ubuntu 9.04, 9.10, 10.04 and 10.10 with no problems
[12:25] <Anthony25> Mandrew for the menu you change it with the cardapio menu ? (I've found a how to and it seems to be the same like your menu)
[12:25] <Dmole> dyd:man  su
[12:25] <gangerli> clear
[12:25] <dyd> Dmole: thanks
[12:25] <Mandrew> Anthony25, it the cardapio menu
[12:26] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: and did you have similar things running on them? like the backup program?
[12:26] <dyd> what's the command to share a folder?
[12:26] <Anthony25> thanks Madrew ;)
[12:27] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, its the first time ive actually bothered with trying to save something ;)
[12:27] <TheHackOps> dyd, With samba?
[12:27] <dyd> TheHackOps: yes
[12:27] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: ahh, can you tell me the specs of the netbook?
[12:28] <Mandrew> sure ThinkT510 , can you give me the cmd to the CLI for that?
[12:28] <TheHackOps> dyd, Do you have samba config installed?
[12:28] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: lspci
[12:29] <Germ> Hi, I have a problem with my system. :\
[12:29] <dyd> TheHackOps: don't know, but if i try to share via gui it gives error 255, i tried to chown the folder but it didn't work
[12:29] <Rei`ZzZz> Mandrew: Are you saying 80C is NORMAL or high load?
[12:29] <TheHackOps> Germ, ??
[12:29] <Rei`ZzZz> Germ: What is the problem?
[12:29] <Germ> When I boot up, ubuntu only loads a terminal that is full screen and cannot be exited. I have to startx and run a gnome-panel & via command line. I don't know what is causing this problem but :\
[12:29] <oal> Evolution or Thunderbird or something else? I'm thinking about moving from gmail's web interface to a dedicated mail client. Suggestions?
[12:29] <Reikoku> Saying you have a problem with your system is a bit like going to a doctor and saying you have a problem with your body :P
[12:29] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, http://paste.ubuntu.com/649057/
[12:30] <Reikoku> Germ: Does it work fine when you startx?
[12:30] <Germ> Yes
[12:30] <Reikoku> If so you probably broke gdm
[12:30] <Germ> Well I was told to reinstall it :\
[12:30] <Germ> so I deleted it then reinstalled it.
[12:30] <Reikoku> Well, one way around it is reinstall gdm or another DE
[12:30] <TheHackOps> dyd, looking now for u hold a sec
[12:31] <Germ> I don't know any other gdm :\
[12:31] <Dmole> Germ: how did you del and reinstall it?
[12:31] <dyd> TheHackOps: thank you
[12:31] <Germ> Yes, I'm sure that I did that.
[12:31] <Reikoku> I think you may have to tell it to start on boot again
[12:31] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: thanks, can i also see your uname -a
[12:31] <dyd> TheHackOps: btw i have this error if i login with a domain account, if i join with local admin account it works
[12:31] <Germ> I don't know howto do that though :(
[12:31] <Reikoku> Germ, to see if it's installed, can you exit x and try gdm instead of startx
[12:32] <Dmole> Germ: you might need to add GDM to /etc/init.d/ with ..... what was that tool
[12:32] <Reikoku> Dmole: nano?
[12:32] <Germ> Reikoku: I know it is installed. I re installed it.
[12:32] <Germ> I just need it to boot on startup.
[12:32] <TheHackOps> dyd, whats ur network setup??
[12:32] <Reikoku> Germ: Does it work though?
[12:32] <Germ> Yes,
[12:32] <Reikoku> There are 2 potential issues:
[12:32] <Dmole> Germ: chkconfig
[12:32] <Reikoku> OK
[12:33] <Barzogh> Germ try slim or xdm , those are nice
[12:33] <dyd> TheHackOps: i have this ubuntu standalone installation, i made it join the domain
[12:33] <Reikoku> I use slim
[12:33] <dyd> TheHackOps: now i want to share a hd on this machine
[12:33] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, http://paste.ubuntu.com/649063/
[12:33] <Dmole> Germ: or update-rc.d
[12:33] <dyd> TheHackOps: and want that share to be accessible to all domain users
[12:33] <TheHackOps> dyd, Prmary??
[12:34] <Reikoku> I'm not registered to the Ubuntu forum so I can't see the threads
[12:34] <Germ> Dmole: it says gdm is off.
[12:34] <TheHackOps> dyd, and no windows involved right??
[12:34] <Dmole> Germ: that would do it
[12:34] <Reikoku> I would imagine there's a tool to edit rc.conf automatically
[12:34] <dyd> TheHackOps: i set up a softwareraid on 2 hds, now i have an unique disk named /media/RAID
[12:34] <TheHackOps> dyd, http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5627/sambaserverconfiguratio.jpg
[12:34] <Germ> Now I have another question, how do I turn gdm on ?
[12:34] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: ok, since this is your first install that your using backups i'm guessing it is your machine overheating
[12:35] <TheHackOps> dyd, do u have that util??
[12:35] <dyd> TheHackOps: strange thing is that if i login with local account, i can share work, if i login with domain account i can't share, probably a permission problem
[12:35] <Dmole> Germ: sec I'm checking what it should be
[12:35] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: there may be other processes running that add to the effect of overheating
[12:35] <Germ> ok :)
[12:35] <TheHackOps> dyd, can u chmod 777??
[12:36] <dyd> TheHackOps: now i'm on local admin account, i can
[12:36] <Mandrew> ok ThinkT510 so im guessing that one way is to address the fans to get the heat down
[12:36] <hellyeah> hey
[12:36] <dyd> TheHackOps: maybe i just have to add domain account to local admin group
[12:36] <zaksoldier> Hi
[12:36] <zaksoldier> Hi all
[12:36] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: if you want to keep your current setup i'd suggest disabling the backup system (unless you need it)
[12:36] <hellyeah> i am using ubuntu 11.10 i took that error while try to install some package http://dpaste.com/573209/ what can i do
[12:36] <Pici> hellyeah : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:37] <Germ> How can you use an OS version that isn't yet released :\
[12:37] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: then if it keeps overheating you may need to consider using a lighter version
[12:37] <TheHackOps> dyd, Maybe, but if u chmod 777 inside a local network it should be fine
[12:37] <Reikoku> Development release
[12:37] <Pici> Germ: There are alphas.
[12:37] <Germ> oh
[12:37] <TheHackOps> don't reccomend it outside a local network though
[12:37] <Mandrew> the thin is that ive had these problems before i installed the back up software
[12:37] <Germ> That would be so buggy though :\
[12:38] <TheHackOps> Has anyone got flash working flawless?
[12:38] <dyd> TheHackOps: let me try
[12:38] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: the key is to avoid overtaxing the cpu, and it's not only the backup system that does that
[12:38] <TheHackOps> thats why i came here
[12:38] <TheHackOps> but i get caught up helping
[12:38] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, can i down grade to 10.04 or 10.10 and still keep my setup?
[12:38] <dyd> TheHackOps: :D
[12:38] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: i'm not sure, cos it looks like you are using unity
[12:39] <Dori922> more info on my UEC problem here :P incase anyones interested: http://open.eucalyptus.com/node/add/forum/39
[12:39] <bsmith0931> how do i get movie files to have a frame as the icon
[12:39] <TheHackOps> dyd, I come here for support alot and end up spending 5 hours helping others out
[12:39] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, im in classic desktop
[12:39] <TheHackOps> bsmith0931, Google
[12:39] <Germ> I guess somebody said I chmodded / recursively to 777 can I Fix that?
[12:39] <Reikoku> Unity is so cash
[12:39] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: oh, then i guess that would be fine
[12:39] <Stanley> COUGH ME COUGH.
[12:39] <hellyeah> what is the huge difference between ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10
[12:40] <Germ> one is stable, and the other isn't.
[12:40] <Stanley> no.
[12:40] <TheHackOps> hellyeah, The Bugs
[12:40] <TheHackOps> :)
[12:40] <Stanley> They are both stable.
[12:40] <hellyeah> ahaha
[12:40] <Mandrew> ThinkT510,  how do i do a downgrade to 10.10?
[12:40] <hellyeah> i didnt mean that
[12:40] <HITIN> hi friends!!
[12:40] <dyd> TheHackOps: haha, thank you
[12:40] <jnsl_> http://ubuntu-debs.googlecode.com/files/macfonts.tar.gz dose not exist any more, how do you get the mac fonts these days?
[12:40] <TheHackOps> Mandrew, You do not!
[12:40] <dyd> what's the name of admin users group in ubuntu?
[12:40] <TheHackOps> dyd, did it fix it?
[12:40] <hellyeah> 11.10 is so buggy okey so there are stween 11.04 and 11.10ome huggggggggggggge difference be
[12:40] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: sadly you don't, you'll need to reinstall
[12:40] <Pici> dyd: admin
[12:40] <TheHackOps> brb
[12:40] <HITIN> i am trying to install ubuntu on IBM desktop pc ... it gets stuck at loading screen
[12:41] <hellyeah> you understand what i mean
[12:41] <Reikoku> hellyeah: The difference is probably that you'll experience issues which are useful to ubuntu 11.10 developers
[12:41] <Reikoku> as they want to get rid of them
[12:41] <hellyeah> i didnt see a lot of difference between 11.10 and 11.04
[12:41] <Reikoku> So having an 11.10 channel helps them get rid of them
[12:41] <Mandrew> ThinkT510, but is there a way to save the setup ive made? so i dont need to spend 2 days doing it again :(
[12:41] <Reikoku> Before releasing it
[12:41] <HITIN> just downloaded 11.4 ubuntu iso , burned it on a cd and tried ... the first screen says ubuntu with dots
[12:42] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: i wouldn't know, i never use gnome
[12:42] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: i'm more of an xfce guy
[12:42] <Germ> Would all the directories in / be green if I chmodded it with -R to 777 ?
[12:42] <HITIN> cant pass the first installation screen ... any help?!!!!!!!!
[12:42] <Stanley> Germ, no.
[12:42] <Pici> Germ: Everything would stop working if you did that.
[12:42] <Stanley> That's simply a featuer of "ls".
[12:42] <Germ> Stanley
[12:42] <Germ> bwahahahhahaha
[12:42] <Stanley> Pici: he DID do it. He gets stuck in a prompt when he boots. He has to start everything manually.
[12:42] <Germ> My computer still works, so I didn't do it.
[12:42] <Reikoku> HITIN: Hit tab during boot, add 'text' to the end of the boot line
[12:43] <Mandrew> ok thanks for all the help ThinkT510
[12:43] <TheHackOps> back
[12:43] <Germ> No I didn't.
[12:43] <Germ> gdm is off dude
[12:43] <Germ> :\
[12:43] <TheHackOps> dyd, Problem solved??
[12:43] <Pici> Stanley: Then its a reinstall.
[12:43] <Stanley> Why would it be off?
[12:43] <HITIN> i wil try it now ...
[12:43] <Reikoku> HITIN: That will let you see the issues
[12:43] <Stanley> Pici: Thank you. :)
[12:43] <ThinkT510> Mandrew: no worries, you may want somebody to double check cause i could be wrong
[12:43] <dyd> Pici: can i add a domain user to admin group?
[12:43] <dyd> TheHackOps: no :D
[12:43] <Mandrew> ok thanks ThinkT510
[12:43] <TheHackOps> dyd, yes u can
[12:44] <Pici> dyd: I'm not sure how ldap integration works, so I'm not the best person to ask about that.
[12:44] <dyd> TheHackOps: i tried usesradd -G admin user@domain
[12:44] <dyd> bus dais invalid user name 'user@domain'
[12:44] <dyd> but said invalid user name 'user@domain'
[12:44] <TheHackOps> let me look at the command brb
[12:45] <HITIN> Reikoku: now I see the installation screen with language option .. on tab press
[12:45] <HITIN> REIKOKU: thanks!!
[12:45] <Reikoku> :)
[12:45] <Reikoku> Hoped that would help
[12:45] <Reikoku> You may need help getting GUI working once installed though
[12:46] <Reikoku> That usually means your graphics card needs some tweaking to make it work
[12:46] <HITIN> lets see how it goes ..
[12:47] <Germ> How can I find out if the dir / is chmodded to 777 with -R ?
[12:48] <TheHackOps> dyd, I can't think of the solution right now sorry mate
[12:48] <codeperl> hi all
[12:48] <dyd> TheHackOps: np, thank you anyway
[12:48] <codeperl> i need a solution from you.
[12:48] <TheHackOps> if i do ill post asap
[12:48] <codeperl> is there anyone from Bangladesh?
[12:48] <TheHackOps> dyd, Im running PinGuyOS
[12:49] <TheHackOps> dyd, So its quite moded as far as tools, but i was an straight ubuntu user for 5 yrs
[12:49] <TheHackOps> i just started using pinguy
[12:49] <codeperl> ok
[12:49] <codeperl> i need a solve. please help me.
[12:49] <TheHackOps> codeperl, Problem?
[12:49] <jjaaaaa> Hi, on Hardy 8.04 here... Looking for something that'll work in hardy, prefereablly be either available in the repository or else fairly straight forward to get up and running smoothly, to replace f-spot.  Viewnor would have been PERFECT, but I just don't know if it works on Hardy or not.  It came out fairly recently, since hardy did.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
[12:49] <bazhang> codeperl, whats the ubuntu issue
[12:49] <codeperl> I am using wired connection
[12:50] <ThinkT510> !8.04 | jjaaaaa
[12:50] <codeperl> now sometimes ago, electricity gone.
[12:50] <dyd> how to know what group the user i'm using belongs to?
[12:50] <bazhang> !enter | codeperl
[12:51] <GreyMatter> Hello all
[12:51] <ThinkT510> dyd: groups
[12:51] <TheHackOps> dyd, Users and groups
[12:51] <codeperl> then, when the electricity comes again, i start my pc and found that the network sign on the bar, is disconnected.
[12:51] <jjaaaaa> ThinkT510: Thank you, but I'm deploying on machines that won't run anything newer.
[12:51] <codeperl> please help
[12:52] <TheHackOps> codeperl, Try a new cable?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> jjaaaaa: since it is no longer supported you likely won't get any help, what specs are the machines your running on?
[12:53] <TheHackOps> ThinkT510, Whats the offtopic irc?
[12:53] <astraljava> TheHackOps: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:53] <ThinkT510> TheHackOps: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:54] <TheHackOps> Lol must have spelt it wrong
[12:54] <TheHackOps> ThinkT510, Know much about flash?
[12:54] <jjaaaaa> ok, whatever.  thanks for nothing.
[12:54] <ThinkT510> TheHackOps: not much, why?
[12:54] <Germ> Is there a way that I can find out of the directory / is chmodded to 777 -R ?
[12:55] <Germ> if *
[12:55] <bazhang> TheHackOps, pinguy is not supported here. check their support forums/channel
[12:55] <dyd> to add a domain user to local admin group i edited the /etc/group file adding at the line admin:x:123:user,DOMAIN+user
[12:55] <TheHackOps> ThinkT510, When i go full screen my display driver has a heart attack and i get flashing lines across the screen
[12:55] <codeperl> the cable is ok. coz, i am using 2 operating system. another is windows xp. so, when i boot windows xp, it shows network conncetion ok, i can do successfull connection with internet. Then when i reboot my pc again and start ubuntu, then it also shows the network connection ok. but after electricity has gone, ubuntu always show, the network connection disconnected. i am using ubuntu 11.04.
[12:55] <dyd> will that work??
[12:55] <dyd> no, by now :)
[12:55] <TheHackOps> bazhang, Not a pinguy question
[12:56] <bazhang> TheHackOps, you are using pinguy, asking for help with flash.
[12:56] <Reikoku> codeperl: Try doing dhcpcd after it goes off
[12:56] <ThinkT510> TheHackOps: oh, i've never used flash fullscreen sorry can't help
[12:56] <dyd> OH YEA It worked :D
[12:56] <Reikoku> It might just not be reconnecting properly
[12:56] <Reikoku> I thought ubuntu uses dhcpcd
[12:56] <Germ> :\ no solution to my question?
[12:56] <bazhang> Reikoku, dhclient
[12:56] <TheHackOps> bazhang, No need to be mean, i give help to random problems all the time here
[12:56] <codeperl> how to do dhcpcd?
[12:56] <Germ> I have asked it 3 different times already
[12:56] <Pici> Germ: ls -l /
[12:56] <codeperl> i dont know actually
[12:56] <Germ> why will that do, :\
[12:56] <Reikoku> codeperl in console
[12:56] <Germ> what *
[12:57] <Reikoku> as root
[12:57] <bazhang> TheHackOps, its not a matter of being mean. Pinguy is simply not supported here.
[12:57] <dyd> how can i chown a folder to 2 users?
[12:57] <Reikoku> sudo dhcpcd
[12:57] <Reikoku> oh
[12:57] <Pici> Germ: It will tell you what the permissions are on the files in /
[12:57] <Reikoku> sudo dhclient apparently
[12:57] <bazhang> Reikoku, its sudo dhclient eth0   for example
[12:57] <Reikoku> bazhang: Ahh
[12:57] <Reikoku> Why dhclient over dhcpcd? :<
[12:58] <TheHackOps> bazhang, I know, i have been helping around here for a long time. but on ubuntu i had the same problems... so i thought i would ask in case someone has seen the problem
[12:58] <codeperl> ok. thanx for your help. so, everytime electricity will go and i have to do so?
[12:58] <Reikoku> codeperl: I don't know if it can run as a daemon
[12:58] <Reikoku> I have only used dhcpcd which always reconnects me if I disconnect
[12:58] <codeperl> ok
[12:58] <codeperl> reikoku
[12:59] <codeperl> thank you for your help.
[12:59] <Reikoku> Hope it helps
[12:59] <pseubodot> dyd: you cannot.
[12:59] <pseubodot> dyd: this is where you would use group ownership
[12:59] <codeperl> i am gonna test it now by an illegal shutdown. thanx for your help.
[13:00] <dyd> pseubodot: tnx
[13:02] <HITIN> cannot pass the ubuntu first screen
[13:03] <HITIN> cannot pass the ubuntu first installation screen
[13:03] <TheHackOps> HITIN, Don't spam
[13:04] <TheHackOps> HITIN, and do you get any error messages
[13:04] <dyd> how to enable vnc on ubuntu?
[13:04] <HITIN> what?!!
[13:04] <HITIN> no its just shows ubuntu with 5 dots and keeps loading
[13:04] <TheHackOps> dyd, Easy
[13:05] <TheHackOps> dyd, Install a package called vnc4server
[13:05] <HITIN> what is that?
[13:05] <dyd> TheHackOps: thanks!
[13:05] <TheHackOps> dyd, NP
[13:05] <HITIN> i have already got windows 2003 server ... i want to install over it
[13:05] <jvgeli> need help with Radeon HD 6310 on an E350 Fusion APU. I am running natty under kernel 3.0.0-5 but somehow i get lags
[13:05] <TheHackOps> HITIN, !spam
[13:06] <bazhang> jvgeli, how did you get that kernel
[13:06] <pbos> EDITOR=vim editor doesn't start vim, and I can't run update-alternatives as I'm not root on the machine (and we want to use different editors), how can I circumvent this behavior? (Ubuntu 11.04)
[13:06] <bazhang> TheHackOps, stop that
[13:06] <TheHackOps> bazhang, ??
[13:06] <HITIN> What spam man?!!!
[13:06] <bazhang> TheHackOps, calling spam.
[13:06] <TheHackOps> HITIN, Then calm down and explain as best as you can, don't use enter 70000 times
[13:07] <jvgeli> bazhang: added Oneiric main repo . Its there now
[13:07] <bazhang> jvgeli, thats a very bad idea, and completely unsupported
[13:07] <ThinkT510> jvgeli: #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <Reikoku> jvgeli: Good luck :D
[13:08] <jvgeli> i know guys. I know. had to reinstall 5 times this week
[13:08] <ascia> !list
[13:08] <HITIN> i downloaded ubuntu 11.4 from ubuntu website. burned it on cd. now i am trying to install it on IBM pc. Every time i choose boot from cd and reach ubuntu installation scree. There it shows ubuntu with 5 dots under it. it stays like that . its now 1 hours ...
[13:08] <HITIN> i pressed tab and tried live cd , it still stay like that and keeps loading all the time
[13:09] <ascia> sorry suys,where are channel #ubuntu-it-test
[13:09] <jvgeli> HITIN: use the alternate installer
[13:09] <ascia> ?
[13:09] <HITIN> JVGELI, where is that?
[13:09] <ascia> join #ubuntu-it-test
[13:10] <comm_> what's the best way for me to upgrade my vlc version to 1.1.11
[13:10] <ThinkT510> !latest | comm_
[13:10] <jvgeli> I managed to make everything work but not fglrx. Somehow the module wont fit!
[13:10] <ascia> ok risolt :)
[13:10] <comm_> ThinkT510, 1.1.11 I understand that
[13:10] <ascia> *solved
[13:11] <jvgeli> HITIN: download it and burn it into a CD. It doesnt have a live CD just a debian installer. Im guessing you are having issues with your GPU as I did last time. Whats your specs?
[13:13] <HITIN> JVGELI: IBM PC, 2GB Ram, 30GB HDD1, 40GB HDD2, NVIDIA 64MB,
[13:15] <HITIN> I forgot to mention i have already got windows 2003 server installed on the disk i am trying to install ubuntu. AFAIK it should be a problem?!
[13:15] <Reikoku> jvgeli: Believe you need kernel headers to build fglrx
[13:16] <jvgeli> Reikoku: i also updated my headers to the same version. I also update the init modules.
[13:16] <codeperl> \msg nickserv identify mypassword
[13:16] <codeperl> hi reikoku
[13:16] <codeperl> again here.
[13:16] <Reikoku> jvgeli: Does it have an error log?
[13:16] <jvgeli> HITIN: try this one. he has same GPU as yours http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1524073
[13:16] <Reikoku> Hi codeperl
[13:16] <codeperl> i am using dsl connection
[13:16] <codeperl> and the sudo dhcpcd command does not work
[13:17] <codeperl> sorry.
[13:17] <Reikoku> I've never used fglrx on Ubuntu but I've had the pleasure on other distros :P
[13:17] <bazhang> codeperl, its sudo dhclient eth0
[13:17] <Reikoku> codeperl: try sudo dhclient eth0
[13:17] <Reikoku> Sorry, I was giving you the old package
[13:17] <codeperl> is this command i have written is correct?
[13:17] <codeperl> sudo dhcpcd??
[13:18] <Reikoku> codeperl: No
[13:18] <Reikoku> sudo dhclient eth0
[13:18] <bazhang> codeperl, sudo dhclient eth0
[13:18] <bazhang> codeperl, cop y and paste that
[13:18] <codeperl> k
[13:18] <Reikoku> dhcpcd is outdated here apparently
[13:18] <codeperl> thnx again
[13:19] <codeperl> i am trying again
[13:19] <Reikoku> codeperl: Thats assuming your network adapter is eth0
[13:19] <Reikoku> If not you need to substitute eth0 for your adapter
[13:19] <codeperl> if i 'm successful, i will inform u.
[13:19] <codeperl> me too.
[13:19] <wols_> and that assumes your dsl connection uses dhcp
[13:19] <Reikoku> One would assume so if he's getting successful connection on bootup
[13:20] <codeperl> it's really a trouble on ubuntu 11.04
[13:20] <codeperl> :(
[13:20] <Reikoku> is that when they replaced dhcpcd? :P
[13:20] <Germ> query dmole
[13:21] <jvgeli> Reikoku: yes, it does. But I am not able to send it right now. Anyway, I still have 2.6.39-10 installed so id probably revert back to it. I am just trying this out as support for AMD Fusion APU in current kernels is buggy and it frustrates me
[13:21] <mark_scz> is there anyway i can set my resolution to be bigger than what the screen can take and be able to scroll to different parts of the screen?
[13:21] <Reikoku> jvgeli: So it works on old kernel but not new?
[13:21] <mark_scz> i need to test out some web development stuff while extending the size of my browser
[13:21] <jvgeli> Reikoku: yes.
[13:21] <Reikoku> jvgeli: Could be that ubuntu repo has obsolete fglrx
[13:22] <Guest33196> just installed ubuntu minimal + x11 & openbox, my images are distorted and with bad quality
[13:22] <Guest33196> any idea?
[13:22] <jvgeli> Reikoku: thought of that and downloaded drivers from ATI website and ran it as manual install. The system could not detect my GPU after that
[13:22] <Slart> mark_scz: hmm.. there's no setting in compiz for that?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[13:23] <Reikoku> jvgeli: Hmm, weird :S
[13:23] <Reikoku> ATI are usually ahead of stable kernel
[13:23] <dansku> how do i remove vncserver and xtightvnc? apt-get remove isn't working
[13:23] <Guest33196> just installed ubuntu minimal + x11 & openbox, my images are distorted and with bad quality [maverick] any idea?
[13:23] <Reikoku> dansku: Why isn't apt-get remove installing?
[13:23] <YankDownUnder> Without wanting to talk to "Guest", Mr. Lynx, I'd say that you'd be best to make sure you have your proper graphics driver and monitor resolution setup.
[13:24] <dansku> Reikoku apt-get remove vncserver
[13:24] <jvgeli> Reikoku: yeah, but as ive learned Radeon support on linux is still buggy even with fglrx. So i guess I have to live with it or buy another laptop with a different CPU/GPU
[13:24] <dansku> i want to unninstall
[13:24] <Slart> mark_scz: this looks promising.. no idea if it's outdated or not though  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Panning_viewport
[13:24] <Guest33196> YankDownUnder: how
[13:24] <Reikoku> dansku: I mean what is the error?
[13:24] <YankDownUnder> Change your name back to your real nick and I'll talk, mate.
[13:24] <Reikoku> jvgeli: I've had good luck with Radeons :[ Mobile Radeons on the other hand not so much
[13:24] <Lynx___> done
[13:25] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, What vid card ya gots?
[13:25] <Lynx___> intel gma hd
[13:25] <philwire> Anyone has a good dlna server to suggest for a samsung dlna-capable tv?
[13:25] <aquarat> does anyone have any experience re-creating a raid6 array (due to superblocks being destroyed by grub) ?
[13:26] <Reikoku> philwire: ps3mediaserver?
[13:26] <mark_scz> Slart: tried it :( xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1024 (desired size 1920x1080)
[13:26] <HITIN> is this good config for ubuntu 11.4   ---  Pnetium 4, 1200 Mhz, 3gb ram, Nvidia Vanta 64mb, 30+40 GBHDD
[13:26] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: its an intel gma hd for i3 330m
[13:26] <Reikoku> I've not heard of nvidia vanta
[13:26] <Slart> mark_scz: hmm.. then I'm out of ideas.. sorry
[13:26] <mark_scz> HITIN: i take it it's a laptop? bit slow processor otherwise fine
[13:26] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Right oh...what I'd do is to hit ALT-F1, login as root in the console, and do: dpkg --reconfigure xorg-server => make sure you choose the Intel server. After that, do "/etc/init.d/gdm restart" => after that, then you'll have to reconfigure your display prefs mate.
[13:26] <philwire> Reikoku: istnt that for a ps3 ?
[13:26] <bazhang> HITIN, for classic sure, perhaps unity-2d as well
[13:26] <Reikoku> philwire: ps3 is DLNA
[13:26] <wols_> Reikoku: very old chip. before Riva TNT
[13:26] <Lynx___> k sec
[13:27] <tomodachi> philwire: it supports multiple renderers.
[13:27] <Reikoku> philwire: Works with my Panasonic DLNA server
[13:27] <philwire> oh ok
[13:27] <HITIN> Thanks!!
[13:27] <bazhang> HITIN, you can always install other DE though such as lxde+openbox (ie lubuntu)
[13:28] <Reikoku> philwire: http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=15
[13:28] <Reikoku> See if someone has posted your TV here
[13:28] <HITIN> how about unix?
[13:28] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: Package `xorg-server' is not installed and no info is available.
[13:28] <bazhang> HITIN, not really on topic here
[13:28] <Reikoku> philwire: If it's samsung allshare there's a .conf file on that forum
[13:28] <HITIN> i thought they are same!
[13:29] <bazhang> HITIN, check the bsd channels with alis
[13:29] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Hang on a tick - my misspelling: Look at this page: http://linuxandfriends.com/2009/02/13/change-screen-resolution-in-ubuntu-linux/
[13:29] <bazhang> !alis | HITIN
[13:29] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: also with apt-get the result is: E: Unable to locate package xorg-server
[13:29] <Lynx___> k
[13:29] <philwire> cool, because my tv model isnt there
[13:29] <Reikoku> philwire: http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8889
[13:29] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, ...and its: dpkg -reconfigure xserver-org
[13:30] <adubz> how do i update ubuntu through command line 18 updates are security updates.
[13:30] <wols_> YankDownUnder: no it's not
[13:30] <adubz> 60 packages can be updated.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:31] <wols_> adubz: apt-get upgrade
[13:31] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: this parameter is invalid, so is --reconfigure, so i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:31] <Lynx___> and nothing came up
[13:31] <philwire> Thanks, bookmarked it, will try after reinstall of ubuntu (messed my root permissions systemwide)
[13:31] <pratz_> hey guys i am trying to install pdftk on webfaction, but we are on a shared hosting and we do not have root pass, can any one help me with this ??
[13:31] <wols_> Lynx___: cause that's old and outdated, very outdated
[13:31] <Lynx___> well
[13:31] <pratz_> how can i install pdftk without root
[13:32] <Lynx___> how can i get my screen fixed then? images r screwed with bad resolution
[13:32] <wols_> pratz_: download the package and unpack it with dpkg -x
[13:32] <philwire> Now, how can I reinstall ubuntu on a single drive without it trying anything on the other drives ?
[13:32] <pratz_> i tried to install from the binaries but it asks for libgcj dependency
[13:32] <wols_> philwire: manually partition and don't let it touch the other disks
[13:32] <pratz_> wols_: its a sent os box
[13:32] <philwire> alright thanks
[13:32] <Germ> Okay, when I boot up ubuntu it loads a giant terminal, how can I stop this from happeneing?
[13:32] <wols_> pratz_: and you ask about this in #ubuntu why?
[13:33] <Germ> gdm is off, how do I turn it on?
[13:33] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[13:33] <jvgeli> Germ: what giant terminal?
[13:33] <wols_> Germ: depends how you turned it off.
[13:33] <vlt> Hello. On an Ubuntu 10.04 LTS machine one process "gnome-panel" is running on 100% cpu load for more than six hours now. What can I do?
[13:33] <Germ> It loads a full terminal
[13:33] <Reikoku> pratz_: You probably want the centos channe;
[13:33] <Reikoku> channel*
[13:33] <Germ> a full screen terminal
[13:33] <pratz_> wols_: oops i am sorry, i forgot that i can ask in centos channel also
[13:33] <BluesKaj> sorry guys it's , sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg
[13:33] <JimXL> Germ did you do to determine it is off?
[13:33] <Germ> chkconfig
[13:33] <wols_> BluesKaj: no it's not
[13:33] <Abhijit> vlt, restart it?
[13:33] <signal_> hi!
[13:33] <pratz_> wols_: because i use ubuntu i am used to this channel
[13:34] <Germ> gdm           off
[13:34] <ironhalik> did anyone expirienc sth like this: http://halik.ironsoftware.net/layout.png
[13:34] <vlt> Abhijit: restart gnome-panel? How?
[13:34] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, One of the tough bits is that you've got a minimal installation - and you'll have to either install the applications (GTK/Gnome) to adjust your display settings, or do it manually
[13:34] <wols_> BluesKaj: that hasn't been doing anything for ages now
[13:34] <signal_> does anyone know a method to find out on console, if there are 2 monitors plugged into my pc?
[13:34] <Abhijit> vlt, right click on it
[13:34] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: what kind of applicationbs
[13:34] <wols_> signal_: xrandr maybe?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> wols , that's wrong too? ..ok my apologies ...I haven't used that command in a long time
[13:34] <wols_> signal_: also, read-edid probably
[13:34] <JimXL> chkconfig it on.
[13:34] <Germ> ?
[13:35] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Easiest is "gnome-display-properties" (sudo apt-get install gnome-display-properties)
[13:35] <signal_> wols_: hmm.. cant open xrandr on console
[13:35] <vlt> Abhijit: What is "gnome-panel"? I mean where to click (once I've found the client machine)?
[13:35] <Lynx___> k
[13:35] <JimXL> chkconfig -l GDM ??
[13:35] <wols_> signal_: read-edid. that will work without X
[13:35] <Germ> JimXL, it's off.
[13:35] <Abhijit> vlt, in system monitor?
[13:35] <wols_> vlt: gnome panel is your desktop. your task list. that stuff
[13:35] <Myrtti> signal_: xrandr -q
[13:35] <JimXL> chkconfig -a gdm
[13:35] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: nope, it doesnt exisrt
[13:35] <vlt> wols_: Ok.
[13:36] <signal_> wols_: thank u!
[13:36] <Lynx___> atleast not on default repo
[13:36] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ? wol
[13:36] <BluesKaj> wols
[13:36] <bazhang> BluesKaj, not for a long time, no
[13:36] <wols_> BluesKaj: stop it already. there is nothing to configure with xserver-xorg anymore and there is no xorg.conf either. long gone. done
[13:36] <vlt> wols_: So would will happen if I killed that process?
[13:36] <JimXL> Interesting, it's off on my system too.
[13:36] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Well, since you're using the proper graphics driver, you may want to look through the Ubuntu wiki on Openbox and all it's utilities. I'm lost on that mate.
[13:36]  * `greenlight wetwew!~
[13:36] <Germ> JimXL, it showed a bunch of different stuff
[13:36] <Germ> what did that do?
[13:36] <Lynx___> lol
[13:36]  * BluesKaj wonders what the proper usage is for ppl who have a xorh.conf file
[13:37] <BluesKaj> xorg
[13:37] <JimXL> Added it to the rc.? directories
[13:37] <Germ> so now when I bootup it should load?
[13:37] <wols_> BluesKaj: X -configure should still work
[13:38] <JimXL> Maybe.  Maybe not.  I don't think gdm is started via the rc.? but maybe it will help.
[13:38] <vlt> wols_: (I meant: What would happen if I killed that process?)
[13:38] <Germ> okay
[13:38] <Germ> :p
[13:38] <BluesKaj> wols_, don't be too dismissive, there are those with special graphics needs that still need it
[13:38] <JimXL> Have you looked at the log to see if it's starting but failing?
[13:38] <wols_> BluesKaj: but there is no debconf for it anymore
[13:38] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, "sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center"
[13:39] <BluesKaj> yeah wols , so ?
[13:39] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: is this the right app? i dont want to fill my clean openbox with alot of gnome shit. i want an app to configure the res etc.
[13:39] <wols_> BluesKaj: so what you wrote several times is bogus and useless. and instead of wasting more time: good day
[13:39] <ReykAlencar> hi, need a help to install a mousetrap, help please,
[13:39] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Um...have you LOOKED through the Ubuntu forums online at all?
[13:39] <wols_> Lynx___: xrandr
[13:40] <squig> is there a way to tell aptitude to show version numbers of packages that it will install ? (and a follow up question, should i be using aptitude or apt-get)?
[13:40] <bazhang> ReykAlencar, wrong channel for that
[13:40] <YankDownUnder> Lynx___, Yeah...try xandr ...I'm going to sleep
[13:40] <Lynx___> YankDownUnder: obviously not, thats why i am at irc for live help
[13:40] <Lynx___> lol
[13:40] <Abhijit> squig, apt-cache policy package
[13:42] <JimXL> squig aptitude does a slightly better job of resolving dependencies.
[13:42] <bazhang> squig, you'd need to install aptitude if on 11.04, up to you really
[13:42] <squig> im still on 10.04 do you need it on 11.04 im sure my test machine did not have aptitude
[13:42] <bazhang> squig, no need for it
[13:42] <BluesKaj> wols , good day to you too
[13:43] <h4wk> hi 2 all
[13:43] <wols_> JimXL: I wouldn't say better, just different :)
[13:43] <JimXL> In my experience aptitude has worked when apt-get didn't, that's all.
[13:44] <JimXL> But for all intents and purposes either are quite acceptable.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | JimXL
[13:44] <wols_> JimXL: and vice versa. hence not necessarily better but different
[13:45] <keane> could anyone  introduce a tool of scan port
[13:45] <MouhSine> salut
[13:46] <Abhijit> keane, nmap? not sure though
[13:46] <MouhSine> quit
[13:46] <MouhSine> #quit
[13:46] <JimXL> nmap
[13:46] <h4wk> there is GUI alternative for rookies Zenmap
[13:46] <keane> thank you
[13:46] <pseubodot> zenmap is good
[13:47] <keane> does zenmap has better GUI
[13:48] <pseubodot> keane: I find zenmap's a bit better.
[13:48] <GaToR> it
[13:48] <h4wk> @keane nmap is not GUI
[13:48] <h4wk> nmap i terminal based
[13:48] <h4wk> is*
[13:48] <h4wk> but Zenmap is easier because it's GUI
[13:48] <pseubodot> keane: nmapfe is an older front-end to nmap, zenmap is a more recent front end to nmap
[13:48] <h4wk> :)
[13:49] <Gangrel> !movie player
[13:49] <pseubodot> keane: suggest you try zenmap until you get a hang for the command line args (it'll show you the options)
[13:49] <Gangrel> !totem
[13:49] <keane> I just want to want to scan my computer port, as I want close the ports by iptables
[13:50] <pseubodot> keane: you might want to try firestarter instead
[13:50] <pseubodot> keane: it's a firewall configuration app, but gives some info about scans, etc hitting your box
[13:51] <pseubodot> keane: taking a 'default deny' stance (close everthing EXCEPT what you explicitly allow) is a good starting point
[13:51] <pseubodot> keane: s/close/block/
[13:51] <JimXL> keane better yet turn off the services using the ports.
[13:52] <pseubodot> keane: JimXL is right, it's hard to compromise something that isn't running. :)
[13:52] <Pici> pseubodot, keane: firestarter is no longer developed. gufw is the preferred gui firewall software nowadays.
[13:53] <dyd> anyone knows where are stored vnc logs?
[13:53] <pseubodot> Pici: thanks for the pointer, I will look at it soon, much appreciated!
[13:53] <dyd> vnc4server logs, ubuntu
[13:53] <jbwiv> guys, how does one customize the command line a launch icon in unity launcher uses?
[13:53] <bsmith0931> what is supposed to be in apt.conf csuse i dont even have that file
[13:53] <snyder_> I have a usb cdrom which I can only use to play cd’s. Any idea how to enable dvd’d and software discs? It says its a Teac cd-224e, but I think its a cheap knock-off, I am a total newbie on Xubuntu 10.04 lucid
[13:53] <keane> iptables plus snort inplement the IDS and Firewall
[13:54] <JimXL> vnc logs are often in ~/.vnc directory
[13:54] <edbian> snyder_: I've never heard of such a thing.  What happens when you connect to your ubuntu computer and put in some other (non-music) cd ?
[13:55] <ThinkT510> snyder_: it seems it is a cdrw drive, doesn't handle dvds
[13:56] <snyder_> nothing. the drive doesnt register. I placed mini cd that i got with the drive, and that pulls up, but nothing is executable. like I said, it will play audio cds... I am not on windows, straight xubuntu...
[13:56] <edbian> snyder_: I am thinking it can play any CD.  Not just music ones.
[13:56] <edbian> snyder_: oh really...
[13:57] <edbian> snyder_: I think you're stuck then.  They probably put checks in the software that runs on the hardware of the drive.
[13:57] <snyder_> i tried dvd and a windows 7 disc, It doesnt appear on 'places'
[13:57] <edbian> snyder_: I don't expect it to play any kind of DVD.  I am curious about non-music CDs
[13:57] <edbian> CDs and DVDs require different hardware
[13:57] <snyder_> such as?
[13:57] <edbian> snyder_: An ubuntu liveCD would be interesting
[13:58] <edbian> snyder_: Or a CD with some data burned on it (doesn't matter what)
[13:58] <snyder_> i installed via flash drive
[13:58] <snyder_> if u want, I'll get one...
[13:58] <edbian> snyder_: sure
[13:59] <bsmith0931> ok i just added the sid debian repo to my sources, and when i ran apt-get update, i get a metric crapton of stuff, thats apparently out of date, should i upgrade all those packages ( im running lucid)?
[13:59] <iceroot> bsmith0931: dont do that!!!!
[13:59] <ThinkT510> bsmith0931: you shouldn't run debian repos with ubuntu
[13:59] <iceroot> bsmith0931: never ever use the sid-repo
[14:00] <bsmith0931> thanks for telling me so fast
[14:00] <iceroot> bsmith0931: and specially when you are using ubuntu
[14:00] <bsmith0931> i only needed a new filezilla anyway
[14:00] <iceroot> !backports | bsmith0931
[14:00] <bsmith0931> so that what the backports channel is for?
[14:01] <marsfligth> Hi, is it possible to execute 'mount cifs' as standard user?
[14:02] <iceroot> bsmith0931: read the link from ubottu
[14:03] <dyd> as i try to connect to another via vnc it says immediately Connection to host 149.132.120.193 was closed
[14:03] <dyd> whats wrong?
[14:04] <dyd> i configured preferences -> remote desktop
[14:04] <[vali]> sounds like a firewall
[14:06] <wa> hi
[14:06] <mayura> kurwa
[14:07] <snyder_> ok: burned dvd = no / storebought dvd = no/ burned photo cd = no / burned music cd = yes / software cd = no / storebought music cd =yes
[14:07] <wa> I was wondering, when you right click on an archive file, you can select <extract> how do I locate the program/script that perform the extraction?
[14:08] <bradley> hi.  i have downloaded a patch (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=3200715&group_id=145040&atid=760625) but have no idea how to install it --can someone walk me through it?
[14:08] <Pici> wa: file-roller
[14:09] <szal> bradley: Submitted: Dallen Wilson ( warped-dragon ) - 2011-03-05 20:19:28 UTC
[14:09] <exelnet> heya. how can I tell grub+kernel to show all messages. all kernel and boot messages? Even with removing quiet and splash, I still gez
[14:09] <szal> bradley: that was likely already included in some security update
[14:09] <exelnet> get a blue screen where normally kernel messages should be posted
[14:10] <Alphanumerik> Pici: thanks
[14:10] <JimXL> bradley is this a source patch?
[14:10] <szal> bug #729499
[14:11] <bradley> szal: i don't think it has been included because the notification area still has a white background
[14:11] <scoates> hello. let's assume that I'm a bad person and I still have a box running Ubuntu 9.04. Can someone point me at some docs that explain how to get myself out of the upgrade hole now that 9.04 is offline?
[14:12] <zykotick9_> !eol > scoates
[14:12] <ThinkT510> !upgrade
[14:12] <bradley> JimXL: i am not sure but i think it probably isn't --i could pastebin the patch if you want
[14:12] <JimXL> No, I think others covered it.
[14:13] <snyder_> edbian - ok: burned dvd = no / storebought dvd = no/ burned photo cd = no / burned music cd = yes / software cd = no / storebought music cd =yes
[14:13] <edbian> snyder_: Wow, that sucks
[14:14] <snyder_> yup... time to go shopping for new drive?
[14:14] <JimXL> Sounds like it.
[14:14] <edbian> snyder_: yes
[14:14] <snyder_> k, thanks for ur help!
[14:14] <szal> snyder_: cleaned the laser lens yet?
[14:14]  * edbian wonders why any company would think anybody wants such a gimped drive
[14:14] <snyder_> yup
[14:15] <philwire> does it float ?
[14:15] <JimXL> I have a samsung SEs084 external dvd writer.  It works greate.
[14:15] <snyder_> 1st thing i did out of box
[14:15] <scoates> thanks.
[14:15] <szal> snyder_: you mean that thing is new?
[14:15] <snyder_> Thx JimXL
[14:15] <bradley> szal: the launchpad link does not explain how to install the patch]
[14:16] <ChesterX> !download
[14:16] <ChesterX> !ubuntu
[14:17] <snyder_> yup, the best from Zhejiang province
[14:17] <snyder_> ; )
[14:18] <snyder_> i guess i got what i paid for...
[14:20] <M1_> What is the recommended way of setting a static lan IP address in Ubuntu? Should I use /etc/network/interfaces or the Network manager?
[14:20] <adrian15> I am using Ubuntu 10.04 and I am trying to use nginx for making a https proxy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/649160/ When I visit: https://mail.domain.com:7071/ I get the https://192.168.57.10/ contents instead of the expected https://192.168.57.10:7071/ contents. Thank you very much.
[14:20] <OliPicard> Hi guys, ive installed Samba, asked them for help (no response) so i thought i would log in here and pick some brains :)
[14:21] <OliPicard> Ok, so basiclly ive setup a shared folder but id like to set it up so its authentactated ie with a password and username, does anyone know where i can get a guide for this?
[14:22] <Dori922> anyone know the command for sourcing Eucarc in UEC?
[14:23] <baijupattera> hi all
[14:23] <kejar31> anyone around
[14:23] <ikonia> many people
[14:23] <kejar31> lol
[14:23] <kejar31> wrong channel
[14:24] <M1_> OliPicard: Try this: http://www.debianadmin.com/file-server-configuration-in-debian-using-samba.html
[14:24] <terry> M1_: Just edit /etc/network/interfaces
[14:25] <JimXL> OliPicard or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=527446
[14:25] <OliPicard> @JimXL You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
[14:25] <JimXL> Register and log in.
[14:26] <terry> M1_: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[14:26] <JimXL> If you're going to be doing much with Ubuntu you'll want to have a login.
[14:26] <M1_> terry: alright, thanks.
[14:26] <Dori922> nevermind the source cli command is source :D
[14:27] <JimXL> OliPicard there are a lot of good answers in that forum on almost any topic you would want info on. WRT Ubuntu
[14:27] <ScorchedMuffin> exit
[14:29] <mang0|AFK> A couple of questions: Is there a list of programs that run under wine? If not, will FL studio 9 run under wine, and will flash 8 professional run under wine...
[14:29] <tomodachi> mang0|AFK: check out winehq
[14:29] <BluesKaj> !winehq |  mang0|AFK
[14:30] <mang0|AFK> Ah, thankyou
[14:30] <david_b> i want to install http://pyaudiere.org/ via 'sudo dpkg -i pyaudiere-0.2-py2.5-i386.deb'. i already installed python2.5 on the netbook, and if i write 'python' in my terminal window it even starts python 2.5.6 but still wenn i try to install pyaudiere it tells me: pyaudiere depends on python2.5 (>=2.5.2); however: Package python2.5 is not installed
[14:31] <david_b> any idea why this is happening? i installed python2.5 via the official python-page and then ran a ./configure-make-make install
[14:32] <tiox> {Low] There's really no other place to ask this, none I know of anyway, so I'll ask here. Is there any way for DockbarX to have scalable window previews?
[14:32] <JimXL> david_b when you install from source dpkg has no record  of the software being installed.
[14:32] <ThinkT510> !info python
[14:32] <david_b> JimXL that means? i should have installed it via apt-get?
[14:32] <JimXL> david_b yes
[14:32] <Pici> david_b: The last supported stable release that python2.5 was available in was Hardy
[14:33] <tiox> That is, if size does nto permit to have previews in x amount of pixels, the size of each one can adjust to fit with the maxomum amount of screen available?
[14:33] <tiox> not*
[14:33] <david_b> darn..
[14:33] <seaquake> OK so I'm on Ubuntu 10.10... OSS isn't in Ubuntu (at all) any more.  So I'm using ALSA/PulseAudio (the default).  Is it possible for OSS4 and my existing setup to co-exist?  I have some apps (no source, no updates) that are OSS only.
[14:33] <Pici> s/stable//
[14:33] <HeatMzzr> can anyone tell me how to change TTY (1-6) resolution.. everything else works great but 1920x1080 screen and text in console only uses small part of realestate
[14:33] <david_b> Pici: so i should downgrade my ubuntu as well?
[14:34] <JimXL> david_b you could always use checkinstall to create a 2.5 deb package
[14:34] <OliPicard> Hi guys, one more question, how do i setup a firewall in ubuntu which will only accept connections from internal IP addresses?
[14:34] <Pici> david_b: What release of Ubuntu are you using right now?
[14:34] <david_b> 11.04
[14:35] <OliPicard> and only provide access to 1) the update service and 2) internal IP config
[14:35] <JimXL> david_b you could always run it in a container.
[14:35] <Pici> david_b: It looks like libaudiere-1.9.4 isn't availble in 11.04 either, either look for a PPA or try installing it from source.
[14:35] <terry> HeatMzzr: I did that once, memory fails me.  Let me look, maybe it's in my notes.
[14:36] <HeatMzzr> terry: thanks
[14:36] <david_b> ok thanks
[14:36] <grendal_prime> hey i put in a new hd ...1 terrabyte drive.  created partiotion on it...formated wth ext4.  some reason i start copying some of my vm's to it...after 110 megbyts or so...file transfers sort of just hang there...
[14:36] <philwire> david_b if its only for an app youll use occasionnally i would install an earlier version of ubuntu on a virtual machine.
[14:36] <grendal_prime> kinda werid
[14:36] <david_b> the netbook will only be used for this one project
[14:37] <david_b> so i'm thinking about installing hardy not only on a virtual machine but alltogether just on the machine
[14:37] <Dori922> what does the "[drm: pch_irq_handler] *ERROR* PCH poison interrupt" mean?
[14:38] <edbian> david_b: Why not 11.04 ?
[14:38] <OliPicard> any ideas where i can find firewall instructions?
[14:38] <OliPicard> i want to keep the update servers open but just allow internal ips to gain access to the group drive.
[14:38] <grendal_prime> or 10.04
[14:38] <maszlo> I was looking to see if I could get some pointers / advice on why a USB - 16 Port Serial Hub is not showing up properly within /dev/ttyS#.   I see the entries under lsusb
[14:38] <Rigin> join #ubuntu
[14:39] <grendal_prime> your here bud Rigin
[14:39] <soidexe> hello! I have trouble with my wired network. Rarely it disconnects and I can't connect without reboot. Today it happened again. WiFi works well so I don't want to reboot. But maybe there's a way to "reboot" only network?
[14:39] <arfbtwn> soidexe: If your ethernet driver is loaded as a module, you could try modprobe -r <modname>
[14:39] <david_b> edbian: the libraries are too old..
[14:40] <iceroot> soidexe: sudo service networking restart
[14:40] <JimXL> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:40] <edbian> david_b: The libraries in 11.04 are too old?  Hardy is much older
[14:40] <iceroot> soidexe: but that will kill all connections
[14:40] <iceroot> !upstart | JimXL
[14:40] <Chris_Gr> Hello i have a question for Dual boot
[14:40] <iceroot> !dualboot | Chris_Gr
[14:40] <JimXL> screw upstart. POS.
[14:40] <th0r> soidexe: you might try ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0
[14:40] <soidexe> iceroot:  "restart: Unknown instance:"
[14:41] <iceroot> soidexe: have a look with tab whats the correct name of the instance
[14:41] <Chris_Gr> OK thank you i will try it(That was pretty fast ;D)
[14:41] <david_b> edbian: nope the other way around: i need a library which is depending on python2.5 and since python2.5 was last supported in hardy that's probably the way of the least resistance
[14:41] <maszlo> does anyone have any experience with using serial hubs on ubuntu?
[14:42] <soidexe> th0r: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" - ifup: "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0."
[14:42] <soidexe> iceroot: how?
[14:43] <th0r> soidexe: ah....you're using network-mangler or wicd then
[14:43] <soidexe> th0r: yes
[14:43] <quick-> i was installing ubuntu 11.04 on a processor with AMD ahtlon x2 and after installation i got the initramfs and systeam wasnt responding . Please help
[14:44] <dli> quick-, any error messages?
[14:44] <mang0|AFK> YESSSSS!!! I don't have to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows after all, I can just use Ubuntu. I've found out all my really import win apps run under WINE and the others have linux versions. Woopee!
[14:44] <terry> HeatMzzr: http://harrison3001.blogspot.com/2009/09/grub-2-graphical-boot-tips-to-set.html
[14:45] <Chris_Gr> Yeah about the dual-boot may i have some explanation i am new with Linux
[14:45] <Chris_Gr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Mbr#backup-replace
[14:46] <Chris_Gr> Someone Please?
[14:46] <JimXL> Chris_Gr:  what do you want to know?
[14:46] <quick-> dli: no error message . i was a clean install but after install when u boot it just shows (initramfs ) and nothing else
[14:47] <Chris_Gr> I want someone to explain it a bit more
[14:47] <JimXL> quick-: How long did you wait.
[14:47] <dli> quick-, when booting, try to remove the kernel parameters "quiet splash"
[14:47] <Chris_Gr> About step two
[14:47] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: It's a big topic.
[14:47] <Chris_Gr> backup mbr
[14:47] <quick-> for around 2  hour s
[14:48] <JimXL> quick-: lol guess  that's long enough.
[14:48] <quick-> JimXL: for around 2  hour s
[14:48] <quick-> dli :
[14:48] <Chris_Gr> Well do you have a guide wich i could have a look at
[14:48] <Chris_Gr> i want it to be very detailed
[14:49] <quick-> dli : it's  installing in amd athlon but it wasn't doing it yesterday for x2 so  i downloaded an 11.04 fresh image and made some pendrives bootable and then started  .
[14:49] <JimXL> Chris_Gr It looks pretty straightforward
[14:49] <quick-> dli : it's  installing in amd athlon but it wasn't doing it yesterday for x2 so  i downloaded an 11.04 fresh image and made some pendrives bootable and then started  .wats the problem about  ?
[14:50] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: Just change the if= to what ever device you are using.
[14:50] <grendal_prime> grrrr new drive is acting very strange
[14:50] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: Use the rest of the parameters as it.  Do this as root.
[14:51] <quick-> dli:  how do i remove the kernel parameters "quiet splash "
[14:51] <Chris_Gr> I will try to...
[14:51] <JimXL> OK
[14:51] <JimXL> quick-: do you see a grub prompt when you boot?
[14:52] <dli> quick-, hit 'e' in grub bootup menu
[14:52] <Chris_Gr> Setup grub to boot windows  what does it mean with that
[14:52] <quick-> no i just get that initramfs and i have to do i hard shutdown . it's working fine in amd athlon but not in amd athlon x2
[14:52] <JimXL> quick-: do as dli says and use the arrow keys and delete and backspace keys.
[14:53] <JimXL> OK to get to grub menu hold the shift key down while booting.
[14:53] <quick-> dli :  before installing  the system i'll have to do it ?
[14:53] <Chris_Gr> So each time i want to get with window i have to push shift on boot
[14:53] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: that was for quick.
[14:54] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: not you.
[14:54] <Chris_Gr> O sorry :)
[14:54] <dli> quick-, BTW, athlon is 32bit from amd, while athlon x2 is amd64
[14:54] <JimXL> Chris_Gr:  are you dual booting now?
[14:54] <Chris_Gr> Νο
[14:54] <Chris_Gr> No
[14:54] <soultekkie> help... i want to replace network-manager by wicd but i need an aditional connection manager for my broadband... any suggestions?
[14:55] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: OK what version of Ubuntu?
[14:55] <Chris_Gr> 11.04
[14:55] <quick-> dli:  i even tried the 64 bit alternate amd but it didnt even start and when i tselected the install ubuntu it just gave a beep error sound
[14:55] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: do you have windows installed now?
[14:55] <Chris_Gr> No
[14:55] <camdent> <-- complete n00b. computer freezing whenever i watch video (hulu). need help.
[14:55] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: give me a minute.
[14:56] <HITIN> oops!! sorry@
[14:56] <djltaga> question...anyone know a fix for liferea not opening in 11.04?
[14:56] <dli> camdent, it shouldn't happen :( is the keyboard still responsive? like caps-lock, or kernel magic
[14:57] <DamnSoGooD> guys, whom among you have had a problem regarding a wearing down SSD ?
[14:58] <camdent> dli: nothing responds. sometimes the screen throws up a bizarre pattern, sometimes i get an audio repeat (like a record skipping), sometimes the caps and scroll lock lights flash for no apparent reason.
[14:58] <obeyance> Is it possible to install windows from a virtual drive? My current OS is Ubuntu 11.04 and i just finished waiting 5 hours for Gparted to make a partition to install on... and my computer wont boot from flash drive it appears.
[14:58] <camdent> dli: don't know if there's a ctrl-alt-del equivalent in ubuntu, but i've had to do a hard shutdown with the power button every time.
[14:59] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: I can't help since I'm running grub not grub2.  You have to add some lines into the grub configuration to tell it where to find the windows partition.
[14:59] <dli> camdent, try kernel magics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[14:59] <JimXL> I don't have a machine using grub2.
[14:59] <Chris_Gr> i am done .. XD
[14:59] <iceroot> camdent: magic sys req is a command to instant shutdown the pc
[14:59] <jvgeli> camdent: whats your specs? i get same issues with Natty
[14:59] <iceroot> camdent: s/command/way/
[14:59] <HITIN> what is difference between ubuntu & lubuntu?
[15:00] <Chris_Gr> I will google it then a bit more
[15:00] <camdent> iceroot: um, explain s/command/way to me?
[15:00] <iceroot> HITIN: the desktop
[15:00] <Chris_Gr> Thanx for your time and for your support you are the best ;)
[15:00] <JimXL> Chris_Gr: OK good luck.
[15:00] <iceroot> camdent: replace command with way in my message
[15:01] <djltaga> hitin: it uses a different desktop manager, usually resulting in a different look and functionality
[15:01] <radesmrade> how can I access linux (software) raid0 from live cd... how can I access the data, I am not sure how to mount it
[15:01] <DamnSoGooD> guys, whom among you have had a problem regarding a wearing down SSD ? i've been installing ubuntu for 4x but gnome-settings-manager always fails to write to my SSD and installer always crash
[15:02] <HITIN> djltaga: does that mean , they almost but different looks .. is there any operational difference ?
[15:02] <dli> radesmrade, if kernel doesn't do it for you, run: sudo mdadm --auto-detect
[15:02] <HITIN> djltaga: almost same*
[15:02] <wols_> DamnSoGooD: due to wear leveling it's not a bad sector. that is certain
[15:03] <camdent> dli: how do i enable magic_sysrq_key?
[15:03] <dli> radesmrade, after that: have a look at /proc/mdstat
[15:03] <dli> camdent, it's enabled by default
[15:04] <Pici> !sysrq | ckrailo
[15:04] <DamnSoGooD> wols_ , for that, what can i do to improve its performance? i've already done hdparming, nuking etc..
[15:04] <Pici> camdent: sorry, that was for you ^
[15:04] <Pici> ckrailo: mistab, sorry.
[15:05] <radesmrade> dli: I did autodetect but there is nothing in /proc/mdstat
[15:05] <djltaga> hitin: as per my experience when using a different display manager, the default apps are different
[15:05] <obeyance> Is it possible to install windows from a virtual drive? My current OS is Ubuntu 11.04 and i just finished waiting 5 hours for Gparted to make a partition to install on... and my computer wont boot from flash drive it appears.
[15:05] <obeyance> =)
[15:05] <camdent> OK, that solves my shutdown issue.
[15:06] <dli> radesmrade, do you know about your raid0 devices? at least, do: sudo fdisk -l
[15:06] <camdent> how do I solve my computer freezing in the first place issue?
[15:06] <dli> camdent, do memtest is a good idea
[15:06] <wols_> obeyance: no it's not. I think (not totally sure) you can install windows from harddisk, but this is a windows question and off topic here. go and ask ##windows
[15:06] <obeyance> Im digging onlnie while asking here for my question. The problem with finding the answer online is that... Theres 500 million "Install ubuntu on windos" but not the other way around.
[15:06] <djltaga> hitin: you can in fact install multiple display managers at the same time and choose which to use during the login screen, so try them out each
[15:07] <HITIN> djltaga: does lbuntu has same installation process as ubuntu?
[15:07] <radesmrade> dli: I did fdisk -l, md0 is not listed - there are partitions that make up raid array though
[15:07] <HITIN> djltaga: i am total new on linux, i was trying to install ubuntu , it got stuck so some1 suggested to install lbuntu
[15:08] <obeyance> wols_ Well i know you can install from virtual drive, in windows environment, but i dont know if the same is possible in Linux.
[15:08] <camdent> dli: how do I do memtest?  I really know almost nothing about how to use ubuntu.  i understand the concept of the command line interface, but I don't know the vocabulary to get things done.
[15:08] <wols_> HITIN: yes. burn cd, put cd into drive and boot from it. it installs
[15:08] <HITIN> djltaga: i will try it out once i understand what actually is a display manager.
[15:08] <obeyance> Wols_ So this IS a linux/Ubuntu question.
[15:08] <dli> radesmrade, sure, can you identify the partitions?
[15:09] <quick-> dli: how can i change the quiet splash  in kernel image in the live cd or the usb ?
[15:09] <wols_> obeyance: no it's not. how to install windows is NOT a ubuntu question and you CANNOT install it when running a LInux OS. go away with your question
[15:09] <HITIN> wols_: i tried that with ubuntu but it stays on boot screen, nothing happens
[15:09] <obeyance> wols_ Take off the word windows and the question still remins.
[15:09] <wols_> HITIN: try the alternate installer
[15:09] <HITIN> wols_:i dont know what is that!! :(
[15:10] <wols_> obeyance: if I take off that word then you don't have a problem anymore. so it's solved. now go away
[15:10] <dli> camdent, if not in grub2 already,
[15:10] <obeyance> Hey, dont be a dick... Nobody else has been a dick.
[15:10] <radesmrade> dli: yes I can
[15:10] <wols_> !tell HITIN about alternate
[15:10] <szal> HITIN: when installation gets stuck, it's most of the time the install medium's fault..  so check that (a) the MD5sum/SHA1sum matches after download; (b) that the burning/transfer to USB medium went well (boot the self-test option on the install medium)
[15:10] <radesmrade> dli: can I mount raid according to that
[15:10] <DamnSoGooD> wols_ , what can i do to install ubuntu to my SSD?
[15:11] <szal> HITIN: and yes, alternate is always a good idea :)
[15:11] <dli> radesmrade, then, simply assemble the raid, like: sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc3
[15:11] <radesmrade> dli: ok, thank you
[15:11] <HITIN> thanks people!! I will try it now ..
[15:11] <wols_> DamnSoGooD: what is the problem when you install ubuntu exactly?
[15:12] <HackerII> DamnSoGooD  unetbootin
[15:12] <quick-> dli: how can i change the quiet splash  in kernel image in the live cd or the usb ? Please help . i am using the usb installler , how do i change the quiet splash option .wehn i press f6 ii dnt get that option
[15:12] <camdent> dli: I didn't understand that last message.  I'm reading wikipedia and trying to comprehend.
[15:12] <dyd> how can i have a command line access to a remote ubuntu machine?
[15:12] <HITIN> i just tried installing lbuntu and now its says boot with a blinking cursor .. what should i do next?
[15:13] <dli> quick-, if for livecd(USB): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[15:13] <DamnSoGooD> wols_ , it was so slow, then at the 66% , it only crashes,, what a frustration. already had it 4x for a whole day and night
[15:13] <obeyance> My question was simple and since i am running Linux and trying to figure out Ubuntu, i dont know what works and what doesnt... with ubuntu. I have been using windows since 3.1 until here recently, so i know what works with windows. Knowing if i can install in linux environment is completely different and i 100% guarantee you that if i ask windows people if i can install somehow with a virtual drive on Ubuntu they are going to look at me with th
[15:13] <obeyance> e "dumb face" and point me to ask linux guys.
[15:13] <djltaga> dyd: look up ssh
[15:13] <dli> camdent, memtest86+ is installed by default in ubuntu
[15:13] <dyd> !ssh
[15:13] <quick-> dli:  thank you
[15:13] <dyd> dli: tnx
[15:13] <Mandrew> hi, can i in anyway take a live-cd and modify it with all the things i want in it and put me as root in it before i install it into a machine? or do i need to install it on a machine before i can do anything to it?
[15:13] <dli> camdent, if not, sudo apt-get install memtest86+
[15:14] <wols_> DamnSoGooD: use alternate installer and install a bare bones ubuntu. then afterwards you can still install gnome to get a regular one
[15:14] <Abhijit> Mandrew, you can edit the iso
[15:14] <sipior> obeyance: you're asking if you can install windows into a virtual machine on linux? (Yes.)
[15:14] <quick-> Mandrew:  by default u ar root when u install it
[15:14] <obeyance> yeah thats all.
[15:14] <dli> Mandrew, maybe, you can have a look at debian-live
[15:14] <obeyance> Oh (Yes.) as in i can?
[15:14] <obeyance> Er
[15:15] <sipior> obeyance: sure. virtualbox and vmware will both do that for you.
[15:15] <wols_> obeyance: I tell you a third time since you apparently don't read: you cannot do what you ask. you can however install windows from harddisk. but NOT from a loopback device when you run Ubuntu. NEVER gonna happen. NEVER
[15:15] <camdent> dli: can i run memtest86+ from terminal? If so, how?
[15:15] <Seaquake> Since I'm not on 10.10 I have no /dev/dsp device and OSS-only applications don't work as OSS was purposely removed from kernel.  I'm told OSS-Proxy is a way to recreate the dev device and pass the audio to PulseAudio but there is no package for installation of it as far as I can see, how do you install it?
[15:15] <obeyance> Sipior, Well kinda. Not VM but Virtual drive. A full install onto a partition, from INSIDE ubuntu.
[15:15] <Mandrew> quick-, but can i make my own account in it and that will stick throughout the install
[15:15] <b0ot> Is there anyway to undo an update?
[15:15] <wols_> camdent: no you can't. you can run it from your grub menu
[15:15] <djltaga> anyone here know a fix for liferea not opening in 11.04?
[15:15] <b0ot> or is there a way to take out some repos and then update/remove the added stuff from the repos?
[15:16] <wols_> b0ot: not really. you can try to manually downgrade but there is no support whatsoever
[15:16] <dli> camdent, no, it starts by itself, choose it in grub
[15:16] <DamnSoGooD> wols_ , ah see, luckily i had deleted my old alternate installer XD
[15:16] <maco> Seaquake: do you have alsa-oss? i think thats the wrapper to make alsa emulate oss
[15:16] <b0ot> wols_, I had an mpegencoder that had a built in rtsp server. I installed a vlc repo and and something it installed screwed up my rtsp server from my mpegencoder. I want to go back the way it was
[15:16] <quick-> Mandrew: nope  i dnt know about that . but u can do it on a pendrive
[15:16] <sipior> obeyance: i don't see the windows installer managing that.
[15:16] <obeyance> wols_ so my choice is to boot from a bootable device but i cant not run from ISO while the linux kernal is up?
[15:16] <wols_> Seaquake: snd-pcm-oss loaded?
[15:17] <Seaquake> wols_, is that osspd?
[15:17] <Seaquake> maco, that's not the application I'm after - I need osspd
[15:17] <quick-> hoe can we downgrade from 11.04 to 10.10 without formatting > Please hel p
[15:17] <camdent> dli: i'm sorry. how do i get to grub? i don't think i have partitions and I know I don't have multiple operating systems installed, so I don't see anything before Ubuntu loads.
[15:18] <obeyance> I know its 100% possible and easy to do from inside windows. Thats why im asking about linux. If no then its w/e and ill figure out another way. But it would require me figuring out how to use a CD burner to burn a bootable disk from Ubuntu, which i have no clue how to do yet. Im sure its easy, but this burner is going out too...
[15:18] <grendal_prime> what is the better formatting.  guid or Master boot record (this is for a drive that is stationary in the machine
[15:18] <maco> quick-: if you're just worried about losing user data, you can reinstall without formatting
[15:18] <JimXL> camdent hold the shift key down when booting
[15:18] <wols_> Seaquake: no. it's the way alsa allows OSS programs to work for the last ten years.and I doubt alsa was forked just for ubuntu
[15:18] <maco> quick-: but downgrading without reinstalling isnt supported at all
[15:18] <dli> camdent, http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
[15:18] <wols_> Seaquake: snd-pcm-oss is a kernel module
[15:19] <Seaquake> wols_, I don't care about your kernel module - i care about osspd
[15:19] <obeyance> wols_ Is it possible to make a full install to HDD with virtual machine somehow?
[15:19] <Seaquake> OSS-Proxy... anyone used it?
[15:19] <dli> ! downgrade | quick-
[15:19] <wols_> quick-: what part of 11.04 is that you makes to want to downgrade?
[15:19] <wols_> obeyance: please stop asking me anything. you don't read what I tell you so please don't waste my time
[15:19] <sipior> wols_: easy there, tiger.
[15:20] <quick-> maco: reinstaaling means i'll reinstall the 11.04 but i'll have to format the system
[15:20] <maco> quick-: you can reinstall 10.10 over your 11.04 without formatting
[15:20] <JimXL> quick- or save whatever you need to.
[15:21] <maco> quick-: if you choose advanced partitioning, tell it to use the same partition for / as it did before, and uncheck the "format" checkbox, then it won't format, and your /home will be saved
[15:21] <obeyance> Im just trying to make sure whomever is helping me is knows exactly what im trying to do. To many times have people ask questions and the other party didnt know exactly what they wanted and gave them an answer based on what they got from the question and not what the question was.
[15:21] <obeyance> You dont have to help me, in fact... I dont want you to if your being an asshat.
[15:21] <dyd> whats ECDSA key fingerprint  ?
[15:21] <dli> quick-, there's not real reason to downgrade
[15:21] <quick-> wols_:  i dnt like the unity and some applets in gnome are delted like the network applet . so
[15:21] <HITIN> i am installing LUBUNTU, and i get a black screen with boot and blinking cursor, whats next?
[15:21] <cyperbg> guys: I added to rc.local a line like this ~/Autominer/startmining.sh and after that I left the original exit 0 - What is the problem?
[15:21] <maco> dli: how do you know that?
[15:21] <wols_> HITIN: alternate installer :)
[15:22] <maco> dli: for all you know 10.10 has better support for their hardware
[15:22] <quick-> dli  maybe and my system is slow also after installing 11.04
[15:22] <wols_> HITIN: and a ubuntu which shows your kernel message. then you will be able to do fun kernel parameters like noacpi noapic, etc
[15:22] <quick-> JimXL: ya
[15:22] <wols_> maco: unlikely unless their hardware is stone age material
[15:22] <dli> quick-, you can switch GUI part, and clean up
[15:22] <HITIN> WOLS_ it says No default or UI configuration directive found!
[15:23] <maco> wols_: or unless the new kernel has a bug...
[15:23] <HITIN> WOLS_ i am installing LUBUNTU not UBUNTU
[15:23] <bhavesh> my internet should automatically connect when I boot up in ubuntu however it fails and I have to do it manually
[15:23] <quick-> dli:  how do i do it ?
[15:23] <bhavesh> It tries to connect but always fails until i do it manually
[15:23] <wols_> HITIN: use an alternate installer which installs ubuntu without X. then install lxde or whatever you want afterwards
[15:23] <quick-> dli:  how do i do it ?   i have to remove the quiet splash optin in grub for that amd athlon x2 . am i correct  ?
[15:24] <dli> quick-, for lite GUI, try: sudo apt-get install slim lxde
[15:24] <wols_> bhavesh: need more info, like how you connect to the internet
[15:24] <dli> quick-, you can edit the default grub options in /etc/default/grub
[15:24] <bhavesh> wols_ its a DSL connection
[15:24] <HITIN> WOLS_ thanks , i will try i now
[15:24] <geoffrey`> exit
[15:24] <bhavesh> wols_ the icon on top panel
[15:25] <obeyance> sipior, The reason i dont want to use VM is because i dont want to waste that extra bit of ram. I only have 2g of DDR400 (sllooowww) and the reason for installing windows is to play my games.
[15:25] <dyd> why i can't connect to windows 2003 server via remote desktop trough ubuntu but i can trough winxp?
[15:25] <quick-> dli:     i have to remove the quiet splash optin in grub for that amd athlon x2 . am i correct  ? i'll try slim lxde
[15:25] <dyd> fail: xp is in domain
[15:26] <sipior> obeyance: that's fine, but why not just perform an ordinary windows install? i'm afraid i've missed the problem here.
[15:26] <Alphanumerik> obeyance, just dual boot windows..
[15:26] <obeyance> CD drive is screwing up, sometimes it burns ok, most of the time its crap. And its not booting from USB.
[15:26] <obeyance> How do i dual boot windows without installing or using VM?
[15:27] <bhavesh> quick- why do u need to disable quiet splash option for AMD Athlon X2?
[15:27] <obeyance> Alphanumerik*
[15:27] <sipior> obeyance: CD drives are cheap. run out and grab one that works?
[15:27] <cyperbg> guys: I added to rc.local a line like this ~/Autominer/startmining.sh and after that I left the original exit 0 - What is the problem?
[15:27] <obeyance> 20$ is the difference between eating and playing video games?
[15:27] <obeyance> =(
[15:27] <obeyance> Im poor.
[15:27] <Alphanumerik> obeyance, google how to dual boot windows with ubuntu
[15:27] <obeyance> I cant even afford Xbox live.
[15:28] <obeyance> Alphanumerik,  Doesnt this involve installing windows?
[15:28] <quick-> but after the installation is complete . when i reboot i get that initramfs . i dnt get to login or something . it just hangs up
[15:28] <JimXL> quick-: be sure to run sudo update-grub after editing /etc/default/grub
[15:28] <quick-> dli: but after the installation is complete . when i reboot i get that initramfs . i dnt get to login or something . it just hangs up
[15:28] <Shay232> Hello, Need some help :) anyone knows some sql?  I've a sql table and I would make query which give me only results that contain "keyword1" and not containing "keyword2" ? it is possible to perform this in one query ?
[15:28] <HackerII> use a can of air...open tray... spray 2 your hearts content...enjoy.
[15:28] <Alphanumerik> obeyance, and burn at the lowest speed - yes it does and any other options requires the window install cd or usb
[15:28] <JimXL> quick-: did you take out the quiet and splash?
[15:30] <Alphanumerik> Shay232, select * from table where datafield="keyword1"
[15:30] <quick-> bhavesh: After installing when i reboot , i get that initramfs and the system doesnt responds
[15:30] <JimXL> bhavesh: He needs to see how far he's getting in the boot process when it stops.
[15:30] <JimXL> quick-: so did you???
[15:31] <obeyance> Alphanumerik, K cause its the (burn to CD) thats the issue.
[15:31] <terryg> Will canonical be providing any dvds for Software Freedom Day?
[15:31] <dyd> question: i have disabled keyring, if i memorize a password to a remote folder, will ubuntu save the passwd uncrypted?
[15:31] <marcusw> hey, I need some help with a guy who has an ecrypted home dir and forgot his password
[15:31] <rww> terryg: No idea, perhaps you should ask Canonical ;)
[15:31] <xangua> terryg: on their store are always
[15:31] <quick-> JimXL:  wat did i do ?
[15:31] <xangua> cd, dvd, usb
[15:32] <marcusw> I was smart enough to save the key which the gui spat out and told us would be needed for recovery right after we installed it
[15:32] <quick-> bhavesh: After installing when i reboot , i get that initramfs and the system doesnt responds  . u there
[15:32] <obeyance> Alphanumerik,  So if there is no trick to installing virtually, then ill have use like 5 disk to try and burn 1 good copy.
[15:32] <marcusw> and I still have it
[15:32] <marcusw> I just can't figure out what to do with it
[15:32] <JimXL> quick-: I don't know what you did.  Did you remove the spash and quiet????
[15:32] <terryg> I'll give that a try thanks.  I just happened be here thought I'd ask. later
[15:32] <Alphanumerik> obeyance, or make a bootable usb (http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2009/08/27/make-a-bootable-usb-installer-for-windows-xp-vista-7-with-wint/)
[15:32] <marcusw> every ecryptfs tool I've tried wanted the login passphrase
[15:33] <marcusw> anyone know what I should do with this?
[15:33] <HackerII> obeyance  burn it at 4-8x only if you can.
[15:33] <snadg3> an update in oneiric just horribly broke X and im getting black boxes and cant see most of the display.. its quiet in #ubuntu+1 :/
[15:33] <JimXL> quick- before anyone can help you we have to know what the problem is and we can't see that booting they way to are now.
[15:33] <quick-> JimXL:  nope i didnt , that system is in college , ill try it tomorrow
[15:33] <JimXL> OK
[15:33] <dyd> if i select "remember forever" when connecting to a remote folder will ubuntu save the password in an uncrypted file??
[15:33] <xangua> snadg3: and is not supported here ;)
[15:34] <dyd> uncrypted since i disabled keyring
[15:34] <snadg3> yeah i know but i thought someone might be kind enough to know whats going on.. or if a recent update has broken fglrx driver and this is a known issue or no
[15:34] <obeyance> Alphanumerik, Sorry mate but you havent been reading my questions fully. My machine does not want to boot from USB and the CD drive is flighty. Thats why i was asking about VD (like Alcohol 120%).
[15:34] <quick-> JimXL:  i didnt got you ?
[15:34] <WilliamDIII> Excuse me, but would anyone know how I would move the panel at the top of the screen down to the bottom?
[15:34] <sipior> snadg3: if you're using a beta three months before release, the safe assumption is that you need to file a bug report.
[15:34] <obeyance> HackerII, Yeah, thats the only hope i have for doing this install i guess. IF i can find a disk that will work.
[15:35] <JimXL> quick-: Didn't get what?
[15:35] <HackerII> ya
[15:35] <sipior> alpha, actually.
[15:35] <rww> snadg3: Please don't crosspost between channels. The correct location for oneiric discussion is #ubuntu+1, not here.
[15:35] <snadg3> sipior: ok.. i will try the radeon driver instead of fglrx as an additional data point
[15:36] <leonard_> does anybody here own a "Canon EOS" camera?
[15:36] <quick-> JimXL:  "before anyone can help you we have to know what the problem is and we can't see that booting they way to are now."   this
[15:36] <agustin> buenas
[15:36] <Alphanumerik> obeyance, I have been reading your question fully and I assumed that your machine doesn't boot usb is because you don't know what you're doing
[15:36] <szal> leonard_: how does that relate to *buntu?
[15:36] <agustin> vaya que mal me va el ubuntu 11.10
[15:37] <szal> !es | agustin
[15:37] <JimXL> quick- I was just saying that without seeing the messages that are being suppressed by the quiet and splash options, no one will be able to help you.
[15:37] <WilliamDIII> The person I'm trying to configure this for tends to have trouble adapting to new layouts. It would help a great deal if I could move this panel to the bottom, where he is used to it being
[15:37] <leonard_> szal; I've been in contact with canon as to a EOS Utility for gnu/linux ubuntu, and the first step i am doing is collecting signatures
[15:37] <szal> leonard_: -> #ubuntu-offtopic, as it's not a support question
[15:37] <leonard_> szal: ah thank you, sorry
[15:38] <conscience> Hi everyone! Wine keeps freezing, i am under ubuntu 11.04 64bit! Anyone got an idea? thx
[15:39] <leonard_> conscience: have you tried different programs?
[15:39] <WilliamDIII> Hello? Are my messages showing up in the channel?
[15:39] <obeyance> Theres 3 different options in bios for USB (USB HDD, USB Floppy and USB FDD) I have tried all 3 as the first in the boot order and they do not work. Booting from CD or Primary HDD is the only 2 working options that my bios list. (I tried USB Floppy just to make sure...)
[15:39] <folivora> Gday. Yesterday I crypted one disk with dm-crypt+luks combo, today with the very same computer I am trying to crypt second disk with same parameters. But I get this error: Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping for device /dev/sdd1. Check that kernel supports aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher (check syslog for more info).
[15:39] <jianfei> hey anyone know how to setup default email templates in exchange and push them out through a policy?
[15:40] <conscience> leonard: yes i have tried spotify and safari!
[15:40] <obeyance> Unless you know a trick to getting it to boot from USB Flash on a K8 Triton.
[15:40] <JimXL> jianfei how does that relate to ubuntu support?
[15:40] <duckydan> obeyance: Have you tried UNetbootin?
[15:40] <obeyance> No i dont knwo what that is, sec.
[15:40] <JimXL> Last I heard exchange didn't run on Ubuntu
[15:41] <leonard_> conscience: did you run it in terminal to see if it prints out any messages?
[15:41] <duckydan> obeyance: Try that. I could not boot from USB on my new system without it.
[15:41] <obeyance> duckydan,  Can in set up a windows install with that program?
[15:41] <obeyance> It says linux installs...
[15:41] <jianfei> JimXL: indirectly perhaps
[15:42] <HackerII> obeyance  plus, do you know how to make your bios boot from usb ?
[15:42] <dli> obeyance, unetbootin runs in windows
[15:42] <HITIN> what is stdin: error 0?
[15:42] <jianfei> JimXL: end user could be running a vm ontop of ubuntu which is running outlook
[15:42] <obeyance> HackerII, DEL  (to enter bios) > Tab down to Advanced Bios Configuration > Change boot order?
[15:43] <obeyance> Other than that... no?
[15:43] <HackerII> o
[15:43] <JimXL> That's still not a ubuntu support issue.
[15:43] <Pici> jianfei: ##windows and ##windows-server exist for those sorts of questions.
[15:43] <HackerII> lol. well  you have to change the boot up sequence for it to boot to usb
[15:44] <obeyance> Right, i have CD, Flash(tried all 3 options) then HDD
[15:44] <comm_> does anyone know a ppa for vlc for 1.1.11
[15:44] <conscience> leonard_: Just tried it, no errors! I was able to install properly spotify, the problem is while i am executing it my session keeps loging off or it freezes!
[15:44] <obeyance> Er not flash USB*
[15:44] <obeyance> As my boot order.
[15:44] <jianfei> Thanks Pici, thats all i really wanted to know =)
[15:45] <HackerII> obeyance  first try burning it between 4-8x, slower the better.
[15:45] <obeyance> Could it be that the CD boot is deturing the flash boot sequence?
[15:45] <duckydan> obeyance: You mean installing Windows from USB? I don't think so. Maybe ask in a Windows channel.
[15:45] <HackerII> no its not
[15:45] <WilliamDIII> Hello, would someone help me adjusting to Ubuntu 11, please?
[15:45] <DeathKnight> how do i share files with ubuntu guest and ubuntu host in virtualbox?
[15:45] <obeyance> duckydan, I know i can because i have a bootable install on a flash drive that works on my laptop... just not this PC.
[15:46] <JimXL> DeathKnight: assuming you have the network configured properly you can use nfs
[15:46] <HackerII> if its just a pc, chances are its not set to boot first from usb
[15:47] <duckydan> obeyance: In my experience, the booting from USB is not yet anywhere near as stable as using a gold old CD. Some BIOS versions are very picky about it.
[15:47] <DeathKnight> JimXL, i.. didnt understand. is it different that sharing between linux host and windows guest? isnt it simple like that?
[15:47] <duckydan> *good old
[15:47] <JimXL> DeathKnight: you might be able to use samba, but nfs is probably a better option.
[15:48] <HackerII> unetbootin works well, I've done it plenty of times. especially on eee pc's
[15:48] <jianfei> pici, jokes aside,, considering we have to put up with unity gui, are there any plans by Mark. S. to roll out a Metro gui?
[15:48] <JimXL> DeathKnight: run nfs server on the machine with the files to share and nfs client on the remote machine
[15:48] <leonard_> yeah I've decided Unity is a shocker
[15:49] <JimXL> IMHO configuring nfs is easier than configuring Samba.  But that's 'cause I have done it more often.
[15:49] <DeathKnight> ok, will check.
[15:49] <leonard_> i wish there was a windows 3.1 style interface, openbox, but the menus dont work properly
[15:49] <JimXL> DeathKnight: There's lots of documentation on nfs.
[15:49] <maslen21> Hi, I want to create a new account  for running a program. How can I make a new account that will only be able to do that, but multiple users will be able to control that program?
[15:49] <HackerII> obeyance  how much ram do you have in that triton 8
[15:49] <JimXL> DeathKnight: Another option would be to use DropBox
[15:50] <DeathKnight> dropbox?
[15:50] <JimXL> That's overkill however.
[15:50] <buhman> I'm trying to configure failover link aggregation, and it would appear to be working for the moment, but I'm not exactly sure whether it is actually configured properly: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443617/ I want eth1 to be the primary adapter, which it was when I first brought bond0 up, but then it seems to immediately switch over to eth0
[15:50] <buhman> also I'm not sure whether I should care or not, but my interfaces are still assigned ip addresses of their own: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443616/ is there something special I should be doing to eth0 and eth1 themselves?
[15:50] <JimXL> Use your favorite search engine to find out about Dropbox
[15:51] <leonard_> and when you minimize on openbox they just dissapeare, itd be nice if they iconify on the desktop
[15:51] <JimXL> However Dropbox is definitely the easiest.
[15:51] <conscience> leonard_: no hint about this bug?
[15:52] <JimXL> maslen21: do you mean "user" vs "account"??
[15:52] <xangua> !lubuntu | leonard_
[15:52] <xangua> uses blackbox i believe
[15:52] <maslen21> JimXL: Yes.
[15:53] <splnet_work> How do I add new entries to grub? /boot/grub/menu.1st isn't there
[15:53] <maslen21> JimXL: An example of what I'd want to do is if I was running the apache binaries, I'd want them to run as a specific user, but give a group of users access to manage it
[15:53] <leonard_> i'm switching to debian
[15:53] <io> !grub | splnet_work
[15:53] <JimXL> maslen21: OK well if you add a user and specify the shell as the path to the program, then logging in using that user would run the program.
[15:53] <JimXL> maslen21: What exactly do you mean by manage?
[15:56] <aff> hhhhh
[15:56] <maslen21> JimXL: The idea is that the program would be a service running in the background. Occasionally, users might need to start and stop it.
[15:56] <JimXL> OK then I'd use sudo
[15:56] <maslen21> (for configuration changes, or updating it to a newer version)
[15:57] <maslen21> At first I simply gave everyone in the group full sudo access. But I was told that's wrong. So I'd like to do this a *better* way
[15:57] <JimXL> Let the program run as whatever user you want and add info in sudo to let individual users or groups to run specific programs.
[15:57] <maslen21> (I'm a complete noob though, so 'using sudo' is not enough info for me)
[15:57] <JimXL> You can tell sudo to permit a user access to just on program.
[15:57] <wh1zz0> Hi guys
[15:58] <maslen21> also, I have no idea how to create an account that could only be used to run this program - and not be used for a logon or anything else. Could you recommend any sources for that?
[15:59] <splnet_work> io: thanks for the tip on grub2. I'm using grub-install for an install on an external device. How do I add new commands directly to grub.cfg?  ( I can't use update-grub since it could impact the HOST box)
[16:00] <JimXL> maslen21: jim     ALL=    /bin/kill is an example of a line that would let user jim execute /bin/kill as root.
[16:01] <Numn> i have problem with the sound.. i got sound before i updated
[16:01] <JimXL> maslen21:  look in /etc/passwd.  Check nobody or apache or www-data users   One or more will have a shell set to /dev/null.  That will prevent logins.
[16:01] <maslen21> JimXL: That's all that's required to prevent logons?
[16:02] <JimXL> Yep.
[16:02] <JimXL> And you can tell sudo to run as another user, not just root, but that's the most common usage.
[16:03] <JimXL> sudo -u jerry /bin/something will run something as user jerry
[16:03] <samsul>  is Ubuntu can be bootable from extend partition?
[16:04] <JimXL> samsul; yes
[16:04] <maslen21> And If I don't set a password for this 'appservice' account,  any logged on user should be able to call su (or sudo -u?) to run the server as that account?
[16:04] <JimXL> http://fixunix.com/setup/18573-possible-boot-linux-off-extended-partition-using-grub.html
[16:04] <dan_s> soooo normally I'm not the sort to panic, but: my home folder (set up with ecryptfs) didn't come up cleanly this morning. Everything is gooooone!
[16:05] <maslen21> dan_s: Did you install bumblebee ?
[16:05] <dan_s> maslen21: Not that I'm aware of. Would it have come automatically?
[16:05] <maslen21> nah :)
[16:05] <cmyrland> Hi all. Can somebody please take a look at my bug report and see if they know of a solution? Weird compiz/unity bug after (re)boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/811499
[16:05] <JimXL> maslen21: Any user that is permitted to do so as defined in the sudo config file, yes.
[16:06] <maslen21> dan_s: See the commit log: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6
[16:06] <cjae> playingaround with vbox and emulation, tried setting some audio to OSS, doesnt seem to work, does ubuntu 11.04 still have OSS support installed?
[16:06] <vivp> Hi , I would be really glad if some could help me out
[16:06] <vivp> Can anyone explain to me the usage of the testDisk ??? I am trying system recovery . And i don't have much idea how to do it from Linux
[16:06] <dan_s> maslen21: Hah. :)
[16:07] <JimXL> maslen21: it's probably best to add all your users in a single grup and the give group access to the appservice
[16:07] <vivp> I am using this link . And i am not sure what i am supposed to do next
[16:07] <Alphanumerik> maslen21: what you should do is create a group AppletAccess and add users to the group, then on the Applet program, set the group permissions. For the lone user with sole purpose of accessing the applet, set all permission accordingly
[16:07] <vivp> http://www.howtoforge.com/data_recovery_with_testdisk
[16:07] <dan_s> No, my problem is specific to ecryptfs: It "mounts" my /home/dan/.Private, but not correctly -- if I 'ls' my home folder while mounted, it's full of ecryptfs guarded files.
[16:08] <maslen21> JimXL: That's pretty much what I want to do. All those users are already in a group.
[16:08] <JimXL> Alphanumerik: That'll work if the service can run as user joe or user sam or whatever, if it has to run as specific user then the sudo approach is better.
[16:09] <maslen21> Alphanumerik: The biggest (for me) issue is that this is a program under active development - so the files will be changed/replaced quite often.
[16:09] <Alphanumerik> at the end of your makefile add the chmod command to the changed files
[16:09] <JimXL> exactly
[16:09] <Alphanumerik> the problem with sudo is it allows root access
[16:10] <JimXL> It can be limited
[16:10] <Alphanumerik> sure but if you run sudo for a specific user, why not just use group permission with chmod
[16:11] <JimXL> As I said, if joe starts the app, then it runs as user joe.  If tom starts it then it runs as user tom.  That might not be desirable.
[16:11] <LOVELY> DCC SEND Crash Initialized
[16:11] <rado_kirov> hi guys, i am having some issues with my microphone
[16:11] <rado_kirov> works in windows, so not hardware
[16:11] <obeyance> HackerII, i only have 8Gb is this K8 Triton (Nvidia NForce4 north bridge) MB. It supports up to 8 i believe but DDR400 is expensive.
[16:11] <rado_kirov> alsamixer everything is on
[16:11] <allan_> I have  a question that can really only be answered by opinions of other people.  I'm currently on an older HP Pavilion dv400, 1.4 Processor, 500 MB of ram.  What would be the best version of  linux to run to keep resource use down to a minimal?
[16:12] <rado_kirov> still nothing to be heard in arecord
[16:12] <HackerII> thats plenty
[16:12] <JimXL> rado-kirov mute button?
[16:12] <obeyance> er er er  HackerII, I have 2GB* Not 8
[16:12] <HackerII> still
[16:12] <rado_kirov> well it works in windows
[16:12] <rado_kirov> in dual-boot
[16:12] <Numn> someone here have either got problem with the sound?
[16:12] <JimXL> rado_kirov:  mute button on?
[16:13] <rado_kirov> JimXL: alsa mixer has no mute button under F4
[16:13] <obeyance> HackerII,  Are you trying to suggest VM? Does VM not use very much ram as to allow me to play games that are ram intensive?
[16:13] <rado_kirov> JimXL: am i missing something
[16:13] <HackerII> no i'm not
[16:13] <rado_kirov> it doesn't show under input in pusleaudio all greyed out
[16:13] <obeyance> HackerII, Then im not following you mate.
[16:13] <obeyance> =\
[16:14] <HackerII> just making sure you had enough to run ubuntu
[16:14] <obeyance> Im running ubuntu =p
[16:14] <rado_kirov> could it be interrupts or i am overthinking it, cus hda_audio and nvidia are both on irq 16
[16:14] <JimXL> rado_kirov: Do you have the speaker icon?
[16:14] <nkh> Hello I have compiled opencv with ffmpeg support under my /opt/opencv, and I Do this in my bashrc : export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/opencv/lib/ And this : export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/opencv/lib/pkgconfig/ , when I compile a code using opencv_ffmpeg function "cvCreateFileCapture_FFMPEG" , with this command : g++ -ggdb `pkg-config --cflags opencv` -o image image.cpp `pkg-config --libs opencv` , it says that "cvCreateFileCapture_FFMPEG" is not declared in this Scope . I 
[16:14] <NRWlion> hi there
[16:14] <rado_kirov> JimXL: yeah sound plays fine
[16:14] <obeyance> 11.04 fully updated. I installed from an old 9.10 LIVECD.
[16:14] <rado_kirov> JimXL: just mic missing
[16:14] <obeyance> About 2 weeks ago.
[16:14] <rado_kirov> JimXL: nothing under input tab
[16:14] <wh1zz0> Anyone knows what might be probably wrong with my WebHttrack? I just dowloading it using apt-get and i'm trying to use it.. It opens up fine on ubuntu (chrome browser) but as soon as I click next from the first page of the wizard it takes me to an error page (Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to linux-box:8080).. Anyone?
[16:15] <JimXL> OK click on the speaker and select sound preferences
[16:15] <wh1zz0> I just downloaded* it
[16:15] <rado_kirov> JimXL: yeah
[16:15] <JimXL> Go to the input tab and make sure the volume is up and the mute button is not checked
[16:15] <rado_kirov> JimXL: the is no device there
[16:15] <rado_kirov> JimXL: *there*
[16:15] <JimXL> No input device?
[16:16] <rado_kirov> nope
[16:16] <JimXL> That's your problem.
[16:16] <rado_kirov> how can i fix it
[16:16] <JimXL> I've never run into that one.  Inspect dmesg
[16:16] <Guest99209> sry to ask this question on ubuntu...but can anyone tell me which is better Intel or AMD processor ?
[16:16] <JimXL> See if there are any errors.
[16:16] <maslen21> Guest99209: Try #hardware
[16:17] <JimXL> Guest99209 You'll probably start a religious war.
[16:17] <rado_kirov> JimXL: no errors, but nvidia and hda_audio get same irq
[16:18] <rado_kirov> [   32.352265] hda_intel: Disable MSI for Nvidia chipset
[16:18] <rado_kirov> hmmm, is this normal
[16:18] <rado_kirov> funny thing is that it was all working a few days ago
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[16:19] <JimXL> rado_kirov: I don't think that's a problem.  Linux has shared interrupts for a long time.
[16:20] <gulzar> getting very unusual bug in Unity2D. I opened /media/Data and started copying files into /media/Multimedia. Now the Home icon shows two arrows- one for copy dialog and one for /media/multimedia. But when I minimize Multimedia and try to open it by clicking on icon then copy dialog opens as it is but Multimedia opens as firefox tittle with White area (i am working on firfox). how to solve it?
[16:20] <rado_kirov> can't i make alsa re-detect everything
[16:20] <rado_kirov> i vaguely remember an option like that
[16:20] <DamnSoGooD> Guest99209, better make a room, post your poll, then make a graph which is the winner :D
[16:20] <rado_kirov> but not how to do that
[16:21] <julian__> is it anyone else's experience that the network-manager applet doesn't respond to attempts to change APs?
[16:21] <wh1zz0> Has anyone been successful using WebHttrack on ubutu please?
[16:21] <wh1zz0> ubuntu*
[16:21] <julian__> i'm having to service restart network-manager repeatedly
[16:21] <JimXL> rado_kirov: go back to the sound preferences
[16:22] <JimXL> Try a few of the other profiles.
[16:22] <JimXL> See if one of them might bring you an input tab.
[16:22] <julian__> better still i just kill network-manager and use wpa_supplicant, iwconfig by hand. network-manager really is a bit broken in 11.04
[16:22] <JimXL> julian__ I removed network-manglers and am much happer
[16:22] <obeyance> =( I hate how when i type something like "How to Burn ISO Ubuntu" or "How to burn an ISO in ubuntu" all get the same results. "How to burn Ubuntu ISO to disk in windows"
[16:23] <julian__> JimXL: i can see why.
[16:23] <JimXL> I had to on my laptop, it just wouldn't run otherwise.
[16:23] <io> !iso | obeyance
[16:24] <rado_kirov> JimXL: duuuuuuh, that was it
[16:24] <JimXL> Good!
[16:24] <rado_kirov> JimXL: thanks a lot !!!
[16:24] <JimXL> I'll send the bill tomorrow..  ;)
[16:24] <Pici> obeyance: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows
[16:25] <misko> hiii
[16:25] <gulzar> getting very unusual bug in Unity2D. I opened /media/Data and started copying files into /media/Multimedia. Now the Home icon shows two arrows- one for copy dialog and one for /media/multimedia. But when I minimize Multimedia and try to open it by clicking on icon then copy dialog opens as it is but Multimedia opens as firefox tittle with White area (i am working on firefox). how to solve it?
[16:25] <cmyrland> Bumpin'. Can somebody please take a look at my bug report and see if they know of a solution? Weird compiz/unity bug after (re)boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/811499
[16:25] <JimXL> I get the feeling obeyance wants to burn it in Ubuntu not windows.  But he's only finding the windows instructions.
[16:25] <JimXL> Unity IS a bug.
[16:25] <misko> fuck it
[16:25] <JimXL> Please, not here.
[16:27] <aguitel> when i try to start grub2 appears message "out range ..." and no way to choose what os to boot ,any know this?
[16:27] <obeyance> Yeah, I have the ISO already. I just dont know what to use to burn it to disk in the Ubuntu Environment.
[16:27] <obeyance> That will provide me with a bootalbe disk*
[16:27] <JimXL> I use k3b to burn
[16:28] <obeyance> Can that be found in the software center?
[16:28] <JimXL> apt-get install k3b
[16:28] <obeyance> thank you much.
[16:30] <dli> aguitel, set GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 in /etc/default/grub, and test again
[16:30] <gulzar> aguitel: install startup manage and adjust the resolution
[16:30] <gulzar> aguitel: *manager
[16:30] <fission6> anyone have a killer laptop they got for a good deal they can recommend me
[16:30] <aguitel> dli, gulzar ok
[16:31] <aeon-ltd> fission6: not here man
[16:31] <fission6> what if i said it will run ubuntu, haha
[16:31] <Pici> fission6: try ##hardware
[16:31] <aeon-ltd> fission6: now your talking
[16:31] <VEndix> http://paste.org/pastebin/view/36377 where is it? i'm new to ubuntu so asking just how to know what is this line? 33 how to juml to the error and correct it?
[16:32] <fission6> hahaha
[16:33] <VEndix> in what line is the error placed?
[16:33] <VEndix> :))
[16:33] <aguitel> dli, i have not this line in /etc/default/grub
[16:33] <wols_> VEndix: in line 33 as the error message says
[16:33] <aeon-ltd> fission6: if you know what you'd like post here http://www.reddit.com/r/suggestalaptop
[16:33] <aguitel> dli, need to uncoment?
[16:34] <fission6> ok
[16:34] <JimXL> VEndix: vim .irissi/config
[16:36] <JimXL> s/irissi/irssi/
[16:37] <pwork> !topic
[16:37] <JimXL> or gedit .irssi/config or kate .irssi/config or nano .irssi/config
[16:38] <[snake]> hello ubuntu channel
[16:38] <maslen21> Would it make sense to not have a home dir for a user account designed exclusively to run this app?
[16:38] <Pici> VEndix, JimXL: you shoudln't be modifying your irssi configs manually :/
[16:38] <terry> VEndix: pastebinit .irssi/config  #And send resluting URL, (if  you want us to have a look).
[16:38] <pwork> Hello, I installed mysql-server (5.1, natty, amd64) and get this one upon 'sudo mysql -u root' : ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[16:38] <JimXL> I don't even run irssi
[16:39] <Tracks> Hey everyone.
[16:39] <Tracks> I am trying to load FreeBSD in Virtual box.  I am having trouble making freeBSD bootable on my flash drive; I even tried the create startup disk.  Is there a way to do this?
[16:39] <terry> JimXL: Why not?
[16:39] <JimXL> Until now I never heard of it.
[16:39] <[snake]> my usb to sd card adapter that is made by samsung is non-functional. although the indicator light comes on solid.
[16:39] <cmyrland> Bumpin'. Can somebody please take a look at my bug report and see if they know of a solution? Weird compiz/unity bug after (re)boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/811499
[16:39] <JimXL> I still don't know what it is.
[16:40] <Pici> Tracks: I don't see how this is on-topic for this channel.  ##freebsd or #vbox would be more appropriate.
[16:40] <aguitel> dli, gulzar it solved
[16:40] <[snake]> i am on ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[16:40] <JimXL> But I know how to read error messages and find the offensive line.  ;)
[16:40] <Tracks> Okay thank you pici
[16:40] <terry> JimXL: It's just an irc client.  Not important.
[16:40] <JimXL> OK thanks.
[16:42] <[snake]> my usb to sd card adapter that is made by samsung is non-functional. although the indicator light comes on solid. I am on ubuntu 10.04 x86_64. the disk utility knows that it's an adapter but the computer doesn't read the card itself. it's like a cd drive with no cd.
[16:42] <ChrisBuchholz> leave
[16:42] <[snake]> any suggestions
[16:42] <terry> [snake]: May not be partitioned or formatted
[16:43] <terry> [snake]: YOu say it is a
[16:43] <[snake]> it is i think. but I will double check.
[16:43] <dansku> what is the easiest way to install an ftp server on ubuntu?
[16:43] <pwork> /var/log/mysql/err/log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/649277/
[16:43] <terry> [snake]: YOu say it is a "sd card adapter"  If it is just a card reader with no card in it, well  yes, it will not read anything because there's nothing to read.
[16:44] <terry> [snake]: sudo fdisk -l  #See if it shows up there.
[16:44] <[snake]> terry, true. but there is a card in it. im saying it doesn't show up
[16:44] <[snake]> here is output from format attempt: Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdd: No such device or address
[16:45] <terry> [snake]: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL, (if you want  us to have a look at it).
[16:46] <terry> [snake]: Make sure the card is inserted properly.  Make sure it is pushed all the way in. etc. etc.
[16:46] <pwork> For this mysql issue, I don't know where to get logs in fact, mysql -u root fails, but the /var/log/mysql/err.log posted before only mentions logs that occured when I installed packages
[16:46] <[snake]> terry, http://pastebin.com/v1Cmam5x
[16:47] <pwork> The root account was once enabled on my PC, but now disabled (that's I have a prompt if I try 'su', but I can't find the password).
[16:47] <pwork> only suoing
[16:47] <terry> [snake]: What size is the card that is in it?
[16:47] <[snake]> terry, it's 4gb... the device id thingy is sdd
[16:47] <[snake]> /dev/sdd
[16:48] <terry> [snake]:  It is not showing in the output of fdisk -l
[16:48] <[snake]> indeed
[16:48] <[snake]> it's all plugged in... maybe I will try in the back.
[16:48] <terry> [snake]: must be something wrong with it.  How are you seeing it listed as /dev/sdd  ?
[16:48] <[snake]> terry disk utility
[16:49] <terry> [snake]:  Really?  Was it plugged in when you ran " You might also try this:  Unplug it
[16:49] <dassouki> is tehre a simplistic way to check my gmail from terminal ?
[16:49] <terry> [snake]:  Really?  Was it plugged in when you ran "sudo fdisk -l"
[16:49] <terry> ?
[16:49] <Pici> dassouki: Ther are ways of setting up mutt to connect to gmail.
[16:50] <[snake]> yeah.
[16:50] <[snake]> great i tried in the back... and it didn't even show up in the diskutil. and now the front wont work either >.>
[16:50] <dassouki> Pici: would mutt be better than alpine/pine ?
[16:51] <[snake]> nvm. it needed a second to load/
[16:51] <terry> [snake]: You might also try to unplug it, open a terminal and type "tail -f /var/log/messages"  and watch the output of the terminal window as you plug it in again.
[16:51] <terry> [snake]: Oh ok I see.
[16:51] <terry> [snake]: What does fdisk -l say about it now?
[16:51] <[snake]> yeah its showing up via the tail.
[16:51] <Pici> dassouki: I find it better, but thats just me.  These are the instructions that I followed, if mutt isn't to your liking you can likely adapt them to fit alpine: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/howto_setup_mutt_with_gmail_imap
[16:51] <[snake]> ll
[16:52] <terry> [snake]: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #And send resulting URL
[16:52] <[snake]> terry, http://pastebin.com/17S4N5gH
[16:52] <dassouki> thanks
[16:53] <terry> [snake]: Still don't see it.
[16:53] <[snake]> it magically changed to sdc, but thats not there either.
[16:54] <[snake]> i guess it's broken. doesn't work on my dad's box either.
[16:54] <cmyrland> Bumpin' on the Savoy. Can somebody please take a look at my bug report and see if they know of a solution? Weird compiz/unity bug after (re)boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/811499
[16:55] <terry> [snake]: Don't have much to go on here, don't see it listed in the output of fdisk -l  so can only assume that it has not been partitioned or formatted.  You probably just need to put a partition on it and format it.  The other option is that it is just broken.
[16:56] <[snake]> what if its a problem with the sd... hmm. sd or adapter?
[16:56] <[snake]> hang on
[16:56] <mehhaha> hello
[16:56] <BluesKaj> dassouki,,  try lynx it's a browser , alpinre is anemail client , don't think it will connect to gmail
[16:57] <mehhaha> how can I set boot priority in ubuntu boot loader?
[16:57] <terry> [snake]: If it shows as /dev/sdd  That would mean that it does not have any partitions on it.  In which case, the card may just need to be partitioned and formatted.
[16:58] <Klyick> I'm having graphics problems with my dell 4600C. The menus flicker.
[16:58] <quackv2> hello, if someone has a second. not sure how to google this, but when i plug in an external monitor, my laptops default behavior is to turn off the laptop screen and just use the external, however it doesn't display properly/at all on the extneral
[16:58] <Klyick> I tried additional drivers, but none showed up in the place where you choose them
[16:58] <quackv2> anyway to disable the current automatic behavior?
[16:59] <terry> [snake]: If you partition and format it and you still can not mount it, then you can be pretty sure the card is bad.  (Actually, you will more-than-likely get errors trying to format or partition the card if it is defective.)
[17:00] <terry> quackv2: xrandr    #With no arguments, it will show what screensize resolutions are available.  You may need to pick one that is compatable to the monitor.
[17:01] <quackv2> i can't cause i can't ssh into this machine and when i plug in the external i can't see anything
[17:01] <dassouki> BluesKaj: thanks
[17:01] <terry> I can't see anything either  ^_^
[17:02] <[snake]> terry, the only sd card i can test is my wii... and i need some homebrew for that so brb
[17:02] <quackv2> yea, damn =/, its like some automatic behavior decided by the monitor preferences, but im not sure how to change it to stop shutting off the laptop monitor when i connect the external to it
[17:04] <quackv2> is there a file or something that the monitor preferences is messing with that i can muck with?
[17:04] <gulzar> Is there any similar software like "gwenview" for gnome(Unity)?
[17:05] <Pici> gulzar: whats wrong with gwenview itself?
[17:05] <quackv2> oh wait found it! ~/.config/monitors.xml
[17:05] <d_atharva_> hi....I have just installed ubuntu 10.10 on pc with ASUS P8H61-M LX  motherboard.I am unable to start  desktop cube ,wobbly windows etc. I have also tried Additional Drivers but it says No Proprietary drivers are in use on this system.Can anyone please help me ??
[17:06] <quackv2> anyways terry, was using grandr before, but the monitor preferences doesn't seem to work well with external monitors for some reason
[17:06] <gulzar> Pici: I am on Gnome and not interested in installing KDE apps... they are too big to install. And once the lib to make the looks of KDE apps like Gnome broke and I was unable to do any removal,install,update etc..
[17:06] <gulzar> Pici: as such gwenview is best...
[17:07] <gulzar> Pici: but any such thing for gnome?
[17:07] <Pici> gulzar: What about eog (eye of gnome)?
[17:07] <gulzar> Pici: using it..but no. gwenview is far better. I thought of Picasa...
[17:07] <bdesk> what is the easiest way to pilfer a few rgb colors from an image using ubuntu?
[17:09] <maxlider> hi
[17:09] <Younder> bdesk, I use the GIMP
[17:09] <d_atharva_> Will any one help me ?
[17:09] <bdesk> Younder: ugh that seems like overkill but i guess i will start installing it and get a coffee while it loads all its plugins into memory
[17:09] <maxlider> i've been dealing with a problem to do an serial-usb connection
[17:09] <maxlider> with my panasonic clp
[17:10] <gulzar> d_atharva: compiz --replace
[17:10] <Pici> gulzar: I don't know of any others off the top of my head
[17:10] <gulzar> Pici: OK :)
[17:10] <maxlider> does someone knows a drive that makes this communication for me ?
[17:11] <Younder> bdesk, well there is always the console base image magic
[17:11] <AlexDevilLX> Hi, are there any comand that would open new chromium window and html page?
[17:11] <Klyick> Anyone get any ubuntu release working on a dell 4600C?
[17:12] <edbian> AlexDevilLX: chromium http://google.com
[17:12] <RichW> How do I give an interface a IPv6 link local address? For some reason one of my interfaces is missing one.
[17:12] <bdesk> Younder: yeah i use that for programmatic editing of image files.  i guess i could image magic convert the png to a raw image format and then look at the hex with od but i was hoping for something between that and gimp.
[17:12] <RichW> I am not using network manager because its a server btw
[17:13] <edbian> AlexDevilLX: oops.  it's chromium-browser http://yahoo.com
[17:13] <gulzar> d_atharva: is it done?
[17:13] <gulzar> d_atharva: or everything broke?
[17:13] <Younder> bdesk, hex with od.. give me a break ;)
[17:14] <bdesk> ok xxd then
[17:14] <dfsds> h
[17:14] <rikuxan> could someone here provide me some help at installing natty on vmware please? :)
[17:14] <dfsds> how to install ices0 on ubuntu?
[17:14] <rikuxan> i want to try it out, but i cant get it to display the graphical interface
[17:15] <blkperl> so i need a clever unix incantation that takes all the files / subfolder in a directory and greps them from a crontab
[17:15] <Younder> blkperl, chroot?
[17:15] <blkperl> Younder: how does chroot help me
[17:16] <blkperl> i need something like cat crontab | grep (each file in the directory)
[17:17] <Pici> blkperl: grep -R string /path/* ?
[17:17] <[snake]> this sucks. why can't it just work. my sd card needs to go get some money working a 9 to 5 job.
[17:17] <ghoti> Is there a Nagios plugin that summarizes debsecan results?
[17:17] <ghoti> Or is debsecan even the best way to determine what packages need to be upgraded for security reasons?
[17:18] <blkperl> Pici: no i need string to be each filename in the directory
[17:18] <blkperl> so i need like a for loop or something
[17:18] <Pici> blkperl: so, you want to use 'find' then
[17:19] <lawltoad> is there a separate process for jsut the unity-bar at the top? i want that bar in xmonad
[17:19] <JustSighDudes> Does a 32bit system have a limit on how big a raid can be?
[17:19] <Pici> blkperl: look at the -name, -iname, and -regex options
[17:19] <blkperl> Pici: yes but how do i find all file in a directory and then grep each filename from a crontab
[17:20] <Pici> blkperl: Do something like find /path/ -iname "*foo*" > file
[17:21] <oCean> blkperl:   find /path/to/dir -maxdepth 1 -type f | xarsg grep string    (maxdepth 1 is to only descend 1 directory)
[17:21] <blkperl> yes but i want to be the file names in path
[17:21] <oCean> blkperl: err the command is xargs
[17:21] <lawltoad> find <dir> -print0 | xargs -0 -I{} grep {} crontab
[17:21] <mehhaha> f
[17:21] <mehhaha> f
[17:21] <blkperl> lawltoad: thank you
[17:21] <mehhaha> how
[17:21] <gulzar> I am installing wine from USC here it shows 2 options- one with 18MB install (while installing goes to 32 MB)and other with 82MB. Which One I should install?
[17:24] <Aleuck> I have a ubuntu server where I want to install a ubuntu server within a qemu VM... do I really need X to launch a qemu VM?
[17:27] <gulzar> what is meta-package and what is dummy-package?
[17:27] <bitmonk> hey guys, i added a ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, i added the key, afaict it's grabbing this ppa in apt-get update, but the packages simply aren't there when i apt-cache search/show..
[17:27] <bitmonk> the ppa is: https://launchpad.net/~rufustfirefly/+archive/ganglia/+packages - i'm pretty sure it's being picked up because before i got the key in, it whined about not having a key for a repo at launchpad.net
[17:28] <blkperl> lawltoad: so it works awesome do you know how to make it work on an older system where the find doesn't have -print0 and xargs doesn't have -0
[17:28] <bitmonk> any thoughts? what in the world could i be missing?
[17:29] <bitmonk> also, fwiw i prefer dropping a file in sources.list.d to using the regular repo add magic because this is all owned by chef.
[17:30] <[snake]> what does the recompute base-encryption hash key button do?
[17:31] <oCean> bitmonk: what is your apt-cache search command?
[17:31] <gulzar> what is meta-package and what is dummy-package?
[17:31] <bitmonk> apt-cache search ganglia, e.g. shows packages like ganglia-webfrontend.. apt-cache show ganglia-webfrontend shows 3.1.2 or somesuch, from lucid repos, not 3.2.0 from the ppa
[17:32] <wols_> bitmonk: apt-cacbe policy
[17:32] <[snake]> Plasrotech single sign on server application. recompute bas encryption hash key button. right next to apply.
[17:32] <oCean> bitmonk: and apt-cache policy ganglia-webfrontend ?
[17:32] <hotmedal> I'm getting this: "PM: Swap header not found!" when I hibernate. This happened just now. Never happened before. Any clues? (Yes I have been using a swapfile for some time)
[17:33] <linth93> hey all, can you give your take on this thread "t=1809317" on ubuntuforum ?
[17:33] <bitmonk> http://pastie.org/2249517
[17:33] <maslen21> I'm trying to create a new local user after installing likewise Open, and I get an error when trying to change the password" Cannot resolve network address for KDC in requested realm getting initial ticket"
[17:34] <bitmonk> gulzar: meta-package is something like 'ubuntu-gnome-desktop' which exists only for dependencies, so that you can symbolically install the latest set of things that satisfy a need. a dummy package satisfies a dependency which may have disappeared or been absorbed by another package..
[17:34] <oCean> bitmonk: so it is there, in the output
[17:35] <gulzar> bitmonk: everything went above my head... for eg: WINE. So is meta good or dummy good?
[17:35] <agustin> bueno
[17:35] <agustin> ya desinstale la 11.10 y he instalado la 10.10
[17:35] <agustin> mucho mejor jejeje
[17:35] <wols_> !es
[17:36] <bitmonk> gulzar: what are you asking?  both serve distinct purposes.  neither is good or not good.
[17:36] <bdesk> Younder: I screenshotted the colors I want and opened the image in gimp and I color-picked the color I wanted.  but i dont know how to find the rgb ;_;
[17:36] <bitmonk> oCean: right, hm, i guess if i install ganglia-webfrontend it grabs 3.2.0, odd that it doesn't show up in apt-cache show
[17:36] <bitmonk> thanks
[17:36] <bitmonk> i wasn't famil with apt-cache policy
[17:36] <oCean> bitmonk: but I'm not sure if you want to mix those, i.e. you have already an installed version from the repos?
[17:37] <gulzar> bitmonk: please explain in Leyman's language.
[17:37] <[snake]> Can someone tell me if my site works: evious.dyndns.org
[17:37] <bitmonk> right, i'm going to use gmetad, ganglia-monitor, and ganglia-webfrontend from 3.2.0
[17:37] <bitmonk> gulzar: i'm not sure what you are asking.  what problem are you trying to solve?
[17:37] <[snake]> I'm using apache webserver.
[17:38] <bitmonk> snake: hanging for me
[17:38] <bitmonk> behind a router/fw ?
[17:38] <[snake]> yeah i port forwarded.
[17:38] <oCean> bitmonk: I'm not sure, but you might want to remove the currently installed packages. To force a certain version, you can use  sudo apt-get install ganglia-webfrontend=3.2.0-7ubuntu1~lucid
[17:38] <gulzar> bitmonk: When I am installing softwares from USC it sometimes shows metapackages and for some dummypackages. and the normal software is also listed. So which one to install?
[17:38] <bitmonk> oCean: thanks..
[17:39] <hotmedal> I'm getting this: "PM: Swap header not found!" when I hibernate. This happened just now. Never happened before. Any clues? (Yes I have been using a swapfile for some time)
[17:39] <Ddorda> hey guys, i get this error: sr 6:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to offline device all the time
[17:39] <Ddorda> about once a sec. what should iu do to get rid of it?
[17:39] <bitmonk> gulzar: it depends on the particular instance.  metapackages usually just point at actual packages, e.g. 'default-jre-headless' points at openjdk-6-jre-headless or somesuch
[17:39] <[snake]> bitmonk, try it now
[17:39] <bitmonk> yep it loads
[17:39] <[snake]> nice
[17:39] <[snake]> thx bro
[17:39] <bitmonk> npz
[17:40] <vivanov> btrfs vs ext4 ?
[17:40] <gulzar> bitmonk: so installing the respective (dummy/meta) for a given software will install the complete software?
[17:40] <bitmonk> gulzar: things like default-jre-headless are useful for other packages to point at in dependency, or things like configuration management systems.  it should work to refer to that in scripts and such across distribution versions and achieve the same goal, giving maintainers the ability to change policy.
[17:40] <bitmonk> gulzar: typically yes
[17:41] <gulzar> bitmonk: OK
[17:41] <Cameron904> Can someone help me set up my partitions? ive searched online and online and online and online. but its not answering what i want answered.  I  am currently in the manual partition, because i want to dual boot for ubuntu to be my primary OS, and have windows on there aswell for when i get a copy of it for doing my school work, as even with every emulator i tried, and tech support the cd's...
[17:41] <Cameron904> ...REQUIRE windows, and i cannot use them otherwise.
[17:42] <ali_> Do you know any channel for Hack
[17:42] <edbian> Cameron904: what is your question?
[17:43] <OerHeks> ali_, no
 what's your exact requirement?
[17:46] <Mogglas> I need help installing ubuntu. I've tried installing it via USB and i partition disks and everything, installation goes through, but when i restart it gives me an "error: no such device:..." and then i get a grub rescue shell.. any ideas?
[17:47] <[snake]> do you guys think I should have additional security for my webserver? or is using linux enough?
[17:47] <bitmonk> mogglas: onto usb, or from liveusb?
[17:47] <hotmedal> sudo filefrag -v /swapfile | grep "First block:"
[17:47] <hotmedal> open: No such file or directory
[17:47] <hotmedal> what the heck
[17:48] <Mogglas> bitmonk: from liveusb
[17:48] <bitmonk> [snake]: two answers: (a) probably not necessary at this stage, (b) 'is using linux enough' : no. ;)
[17:48] <Mogglas> tryin to install it on my harddrives och a desktop
[17:48] <bitmonk> if dyndns i assume this is a box at home / home office or somesuch, it's a good place to start learning about securing your host(s).
[17:48] <bitmonk> mogglas: what version? any wierd storage configs?
[17:49] <[snake]> bitmonk, i see.
[17:49] <Mogglas> newest ubuntu, this is my first time ever fiddeling with ubuntu. what do you mean by storage configs
[17:49] <bitmonk> well i mean, on your physical machine
[17:49] <hotmedal> GUYS!!! sudo filefrag -v /swapfile | grep "First block:"
[17:49] <hotmedal> open: No such file or directory
[17:49] <Mogglas> i maybe have the disks raided but i don't know ^^
[17:49] <bitmonk> heh
[17:50] <bitmonk> you oughta know
[17:50] <bitmonk> what kind of disks are you installing onto?
[17:50] <hotmedal> what does this mean?
[17:50] <bitmonk> hotmedal: it means there's not a file or directory where you think there's one.
[17:50] <Mogglas> sata disks?
[17:50] <hotmedal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1042946
[17:50] <hotmedal> I already have swapfile
[17:51] <hotmedal> so I'm following part 2
[17:51] <hotmedal> for hibernation
[17:51] <hotmedal> this was a step in it
[17:51] <hotmedal> I'm supposed to get a meaningful output
[17:53] <Mogglas> allright, so, is there anyway i can find out if my disks are raided?
[17:54] <bitmonk> mostly from querying your memory as to whether you raided them :)
[17:54] <bitmonk> did you let ubuntu installer autoconfigure storage?
[17:55] <Mogglas> no, i tried to partition it by my self
[17:55] <Mogglas> then it looked like one big free space
[17:55] <Mogglas> and i got two harddrives
[17:55] <mrdeb> Mogglas: use mount in terminal
[17:56] <Mogglas> mrdeb: with what params?
[17:56] <mdpatrick> Anyone ever get sendmail working on ubuntu? I installed it via aptitude install... also plugged it into my php.ini file. Doesn't work. If I run mail() in a php script the script takes forever and doesn't send. Same if I run sendmail from the commandline. Is there an error log somewhere I can get hints from?
[17:56] <acer_> hi !
[17:57] <rww> mdpatrick: Possibly non-helpful comment: sendmail is a pain in the backside. Use postfix, which is sendmail compatible, instead.
[17:57] <helo> i'm having trouble with usb-creator... it starts copying, and then just exits, leaving /media/disk, /media/sde1, and /tmp/tmpdTC_KG mounted
[17:57] <mrdeb> Mogglas: i dont know.
[17:57] <helo> i see files that look correct on the usb drive, but it doesn't boot
[17:57] <llutz> mdpatrick: you only want to send some mails via php? use a nullmailer ssmtp/msmt instead of (monster) sendmail
[17:57] <llutz> msmtp*
[17:58] <mdpatrick> helo, llutz: Which is it? ssmtp/msmt, or postfix that I should use? Also, can I plug this into my php.ini file somehow so I can use the mail() function? That's the main thing I'm concerned with. Trying to get my development environment identical to what's on production... or at least close enough.
[17:59] <OpenSourceWay> Hello world.
[17:59] <llutz> mdpatrick: you only want to send some mails via php? use a nullmailer ssmtp/msmt instead of (monster) sendmail, even postfix would be overkill for that
[17:59] <Mogglas> i've tried to re-partition the disks but when i try to mkfs it, it says that it is in use ore something
[17:59] <obeyance> I have a stupid question, and here it is. Is VMware like a super upgrade to wine? Only the opposite of what wine is (its its not an emulator and vmware is *i think*)
[17:59] <OpenSourceWay> I just install Ubuntu on my new laptop and batterie status doesn't work.
[18:00] <obeyance> Is it plugged in?
[18:00] <OpenSourceWay> I only have that icon : http://ubuntuone.com/p/15hn/
[18:00] <bitmonk> Mogglas: it sounds like you should let ubuntu make some decisions for you the first time around, you can always go back and restart later
[18:00] <adurodea> obeyance: no vmware != wine
[18:00] <hotmedal> obeyance: yes it is an emulator
[18:01] <bitmonk> just get it running, there's a lot to learn and during the install process is a horrid time to learn basics of unix, partitions, filesystems, etc.. :)
[18:01] <Mogglas> bitmonk: i've tried letting it totally do it by it self but that went the same way.
[18:01] <obeyance> And is it able to run any executable i could install on it?
[18:01] <OpenSourceWay> And my laptop is not plugged
[18:01] <Mogglas> i'll guess ill try it a few more times :P
[18:01] <obeyance> As if it was windows if i put windows in VM
[18:01] <mdpatrick> llutzllutz: Got it. Thanks, llutz. :)
[18:01] <edbian> Can one put logical partitions outside of an extended partition?
[18:02] <hotmedal> you will then have windows inside windows <incert inception pun>
[18:02] <[snake]> is ssh terminal only?
[18:02] <edbian> ha
[18:02] <JPL-Justin> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 on an Efika MX SmartTop (ARM) and it's crashing under heavy load.  Is there a standard way to enable kernel crash reporting in Ubuntu without a kernel recompile?
[18:02] <matoy> winception
[18:02] <[snake]> lol
[18:02] <hotmedal> [snake]: no, there's a gui for ssh in ubuntu
[18:02] <adurodea> [snake]: how would you make ssh not a terminal?
[18:02] <bitmonk> Mogglas: well, you may need to try a few times.  coming onto IRC and saying "it never works" isn't a very good way to get help, you're best hope is to formulate some very detailed questions.
[18:03] <obeyance> Wait, is VM ware windows EMU? Would i need a copy of windows or would VMware actually do everything windows does? Your comment has confused me lol.
[18:03] <hotmedal> VM is just an emulator
[18:03] <bitmonk> often, i've found when trying to learn something new that in the process of forming a coherent question to ask for help, i solve my own problem.
[18:03] <hotmedal> have you ever used virtualbox?
[18:03] <[snake]> adurodea, well aparently there is a gui in ubuntu for it.
[18:03] <obeyance> no. Im new to linux.
[18:03] <Mogglas> bitmonk: i know, this is not my first option, i've been sitting with this problem for three evnings now :/
[18:03] <[snake]> bitmonk, im assuming network tools or do i need to install
[18:03] <adurodea> obeyance: a vm is exactly that...a virtual computer....you install the os you give it hardware....
[18:04] <obeyance> Ive been in here for days now trying to get things to work. I dont ask to much though i dont think, but i spend a lot of time trying to fix 1 thing =\
[18:04] <adurodea> [snake]: how???? what does it have buttons you click for common commands or ?
[18:05] <Tekk_> I tried to install ryzom but configuration on data failed because I don't have enough space in that partition. how do I reconfigure ryzom-client-data to put the data in my home directory, where I have enough room
[18:05] <Tekk_> ?
[18:05] <[snake]> adurodea, im not speaking about the connection to the computer remotely. THAT is terminal always. i was speaking about CONNECTING.
[18:05] <obeyance> Im sorry for another RTFM question but, could i install that OS from iso by mounting the ISO to a virtual drive or however its done in a linux environment, or do i have to have a CD?
[18:05] <[snake]> adurodea, you see?
[18:06] <hotmedal> adurodea: In Nautilus, go to file>connect to server, there's an option for ssh
[18:06] <adurodea> [snake]: ah ...theres putty...works in nix/windows...yeah that makes more sense i was like????
[18:06] <mrdeb> obeyance: you can use a usb disk
[18:06] <adurodea> hotmedal: i don't have nautilus installed
[18:06] <bitmonk> Mogglas: i hear you.  try installing first into virtualbox in another OS, so that you have the web and can do things like screenshot the install.
[18:06] <Pici> obeyance: usually these virtual machine programs let you just choose an iso to 'boot' from.
[18:06] <[snake]> adurodea, happens :)
[18:06] <bitmonk> also what ver of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[18:06] <obeyance> Ah thank you much pici.
[18:06] <hotmedal> yes, ISO or some disk image could work
[18:07] <Mogglas> 11.04
[18:07] <obeyance> With 2 gigs of ram, would this be suggested for playing a game that requires 1g to play?
[18:07] <B0g4r7> Hai guyz.
[18:07] <bitmonk> obeyance: should be fine
[18:07] <obeyance> Or do you think VM ware is a bit heavy on resources.
[18:07] <B0g4r7> How can I make bluetooth work on Natty?
[18:07] <B0g4r7> Bluetooth KB/mouse
[18:07] <bitmonk> obeyance: depends on a number of factors.
[18:07] <obeyance> example?
[18:07] <adurodea> obeyance: uhm depends on how much ram you give the vm..how much your ui and whatever else you're running on the host is using how much ram your windows install takes...
[18:08] <B0g4r7> I've plugged in the adapter, and a bluetooth icon showed up in the menubar, saying that bluetooth is on...However when I choose Preferences from that menu, in the window that opens, it says that bluetooth is off, and the button to turn it on does nothing...
[18:08] <Rotham> in ubuntu 11 im already using the classic desktop, but is there a way to boost performance more for a slow desktop?  Maybe to turn off animations and stuff like that?
[18:09] <adurodea> obeyance: your host could probably get away with using about 128-200MB  with a full gui if set up right...then i'd say it easily could handle it if you however are using a gig on the host...it's cutting it close
[18:09] <Jordan_U> obeyance: If you want a virtual machine you might want to go with VirtualBox rather than VMware as VirtualBox is Free.
[18:09] <dli> Rotham, it might be good to try a lite GUI
[18:09] <mrdeb> Rotham: yes, turn off vsync
[18:09] <obeyance> RIght right.
[18:09] <Viewer> apache question: I get an HTTP500 when I try to load a page with $curl = curl_init() on my Apache2 server
[18:10] <Guest54489> Getting a vhost in x-irc?
[18:10] <dli> Jordan_U, or KVM, open source
[18:10] <obeyance> K i need to test some things real quick. Ill be back im sure =\
[18:10] <thisismygame> After I installed ubuntu 10.10 and approved the system restart, it gave me this https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n_2Ur4gX8KI/Tihpw1pitdI/AAAAAAAAAFw/5l9-q8fsE5U/s912/IMAG0025.jpg
[18:10] <Pici> Guest54489: ask in #freenode
[18:10] <thisismygame> What does this mean?
[18:10] <Pici> !cloak > Guest54489
[18:10] <[snake]> what port does ssh usually use?
[18:10] <Tekk_> [snake]: 22
[18:10] <thisismygame> well, I logged in after shutting down so I guess its fine
[18:12] <sweeze> anyone trying to use gnome-shell+empathy on oneiric?  it seems to drop all my incoming ims  (see launchpad 811291 -- anyone else seeing this?)
[18:12] <mdpatrick> llutz (or anyone else): Is there a way to confirm the nullmailer is working from the commandline? I.e. it's authenticating with the login and pass I gave it correctly... other than trial and error, of course
[18:12] <Pici> sweeze : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[18:14] <TheCyph3r> How would I know if my vhost request went through?
[18:15] <llutz> mdpatrick: unfortunately you'll have to try and check logs after
[18:15] <adurodea> TheCyph3r: /whois TheCyph3r
[18:15] <Pici> TheCyph3r: you need to ask in #freenode, we don not have anything to do with the process here.
[18:15] <mdpatrick> llutz: Which logs?
[18:15] <TheCyph3r> Thanks, I'm brand new to IRC :p
[18:15] <llutz> mdpatrick: /var/log/mail.log
[18:16] <TheCyph3r> /var/log/mail.log
[18:16] <mdpatrick> Thank you, llutz (and TheCyph3r)... Think I've got it. Done with questions for today. :)
[18:16] <TheCyph3r> Well, I do have an UBUNTU question :-)
[18:17] <TheCyph3r> Is there any word on whether Qwibber will incorporate Google+ anytime soon?
[18:17] <giorgio_> ciao potete aiutarmi
[18:17] <Pici> TheCyph3r: there are no APIs for google+ yet, so no word.
[18:18] <Pici> !it | giorgio_
[18:18] <obert> hehe ubottu wisdom
[18:18] <LogicallyDashing> I would like a way to reposition the cursor in the terminal using the mouse, similar to Terminal.app in OSX: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=2002031023473071
[18:18] <bobweaver> hey
[18:19] <bobweaver> How to i reinstall ubiquity if I deleted it?
[18:19] <Inumedia> Is there a command that shows network activity?
[18:20] <TheCyph3r> @inumedia, I know that System Monitor shows it, but idk about commands
[18:20] <snake__> hello all
[18:20] <Inumedia> Ditto.
[18:20] <bobweaver> download wireshark and watch wireshark
[18:21] <geekbri> anybody have an idea why i suddenly get this error when trying to tab complete with bash?   bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.us-ascii)
[18:21] <B0g4r7> lnumedia, there's iptraf, which is ncurses-based.
[18:21] <Inumedia> I'm more concerned about the performance and general activity rather then the contents
[18:21] <B0g4r7> and there's tcpdump.
[18:21] <bobweaver> How to i reinstall ubiquity if I deleted it?
[18:21] <TheCyph3r> geekbri, are you using correct keyboard configuration?
[18:21] <B0g4r7> I have also heard of ntop, but not used it myself.
[18:22] <geekbri> TheCyph3r: I would assume so, I haven't had this issue for months then suddenly it appears.  How would I go about checking?
[18:22] <geekbri> TheCyph3r: even stranger is if i am root it doesnt happen
[18:22] <tfdev> bobweaver: https://mozillalabs.com/ubiquity/ is what a simple google search gave me.
[18:23] <TheCyph3r> That is odd...Im not sure, new to ubuntu myself, but the "(en_US.us-ascii)" portion seems like its a keyboard thing :/
[18:23] <B0g4r7> geekbri, what about a newly created user?
[18:23] <Viewer> how can I register with nickserv?
[18:23] <geekbri> B0g4r7: a bunch of perl errors about setting locale failed..... strange.
[18:24] <rww> !register > Viewer
[18:24] <geekbri> B0g4r7: then it says "falling back to standard locale ("C")
[18:25] <bobweaver> Inumedia: 0trace 5nmp angryipscanner arping   arp scanner    autoscannetwork     fping         genlist        hping3       lanmap         nbtscan     netifera          nmap            nsat           161        outputpbnj            sctpscan           sslscan          tcptraceroute            zenmap                      these are all programs you can use. Good Luck and God Speed.
[18:25] <Inumedia> bobweaver: Thanks a lot. :D
[18:25] <BBommari`> I have a question, and hopefully someone can help me: Does anyone here know what the keyboard shortcut ctrl-x ctrl-z is bound to in Natty?
[18:26] <tfdev_> bobweaver: sorry, I disconnected, did you get my link? https://mozillalabs.com/ubiquity/
[18:26] <B0g4r7> ....cut, then undo maybe?
[18:26] <Sonja> how do i disassemble my DSDT?
[18:26] <bobweaver> tfdev_:  Hey, thanks but it is the wrong ubiquity. We are looking for the installer ubiquity.
[18:27] <dli> BBommari`, since those are usually defined in shell, I guess not bound in other ways
[18:27] <BBommari`> B0g4r7: Actually, when hit in that order, it hides the window. I use it for EMacs shortcut, but EMacs doesn't even have the chance to grab that.
[18:27] <tfdev_> ah, forgive me, im really not the best to ask, just gave it the old honest google try :)
[18:27] <tfdev_> I did what?
[18:27] <Ool> Hi, Which tool(s) can be use to help tracking modifications made on wiki ?
[18:28] <BBommari`> What's odd, is I use emacs compiled to run as a GUI app, so it's not even terminal related issue.
[18:28] <iceroot> Ool: i guess the buildin diff-viewer from mediawiki
[18:29] <BBommari`> AH-ha, nevermind. It's in emacs itself.
[18:30] <Ool> iceroot: did your team track all modifications on the ubuntu wiki like that ?
[18:31] <BBommari`> Which means, that is a new keyboard shortcut.
[18:32] <iceroot> Ool: if i am correct there is a special page to see pages which change. maybe have a look at #mediawiki
[18:32] <iceroot> Ool: if we are talking about mediawiki
[18:34] <Ool> iceroot: it's a dokuwiki
[18:34] <Ool> I know a page like this one
[18:35] <iceroot> Ool: its using rss, so a normal rss reader should be fine
[18:36] <Ool> but to make "job" we need tags, write some informations, this kind of stuff
[18:36] <Ool> like tickets on a GLPI
[18:38] <rkhshm> i've noticed on my 11.04 that embedded flash stuff on websites tend to freeze.
[18:38] <rkhshm> am i missing any pkgs or is this a bug?
[18:38] <Jadoskills> Nobody helps me in CentOS :(
[18:39] <Jadoskills> They all say that I have to get help from Minecraft, when my VPS is CentOS.....
[18:39] <rkhshm> any ideas?
[18:39] <oCean> Jadoskills: that's not an #ubuntu issue
[18:39] <Jadoskills> What could Minecraft help me with CentOS. ?
[18:39] <Jadoskills> They turned anon proxy filter in CentOS.
[18:39] <Jadoskills> I know oCean.
[18:39] <iceroot> Jadoskills: #minecraft #centos
[18:39] <th0r> what could ubuntu help you with centos?
[18:39] <BluesKaj> rkhshm, have you updated/upgraded lately?
[18:39] <oCean> Jadoskills: please drop the discussion
[18:39] <Jadoskills> In CentOS they only troll me :(
[18:40] <Jordan_U> !ot | Jadoskills
[18:40] <ninjah> I need another perl binary. How do I install that on Ubuntu?
[18:40] <Jadoskills> I have 2 CentOS VPS's.
[18:40] <rkhshm> BluesKaj: 11.04 was a fresh install..
[18:40] <oCean> Jadoskills: stop it
[18:40] <Jadoskills> Sorry.
[18:40] <hotmedal> I don't have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[18:40] <hotmedal> is that bad
[18:40] <hotmedal> ?
[18:40] <rkhshm> BluesKaj: and i have not updated anything.
[18:40] <Jadoskills> Really, tell them to close that CentOS channel, they only troll people.
[18:40] <iceroot> hotmedal: no, grub2 is not using it
[18:40] <oCean> Jadoskills: stop now
[18:40] <hotmedal> oh good
[18:40] <iceroot> !grub2 | hotmedal
[18:40] <Jadoskills> What I'am doing wrong ?
[18:40] <Jadoskills> I stopped with CentOS talking about it.
[18:40] <Jadoskills> Where can I get help with it ?
[18:41] <Jadoskills> ##Linux
[18:41] <rkhshm> any ideas?
[18:41] <iceroot> Jadoskills: stop it please
[18:41] <hotmedal> iceroot: so what is it using?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> rkhshm, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras? and if it's a new install you should still update/upgrade
[18:41] <Jadoskills> WHAT I'AM DOING WRONG ?
[18:41] <Jadoskills> WHAT DO I HAVE TO STOP
[18:41] <FloodBot1> Jadoskills: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <hotmedal> /etc/default/grub ?
[18:41] <Jadoskills> I'am sorry.
[18:41] <iceroot> hotmedal: the link from ubottu will tell oyu
[18:41] <iceroot> hotmedal: imo its /etc/default/grub
[18:42] <rkhshm> BluesKaj: no i've not installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:42] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | rkhshm
[18:49] <tfdev> test
[18:49] <tfdev> oye, nub to linux/ubuntu, but eager to learn. I'm getting information overload when searching for beginner tutorials from google. Recommendations?
[18:50] <fructose> How can I change Unit so when I click one of the icons, all the windows I minimized don't pop up again?
[18:50] <fructose> *Unity
[18:51] <fructose> And, especially, not over the window that had just been my active window
[18:51] <extraclassic> tfdev: just think of something you want to accomplish and learn it instead of reading about several different things...after awhile you'll know a lot
[18:52] <amiteshp> @ffdev ... google ubuntu pocket guide filetype:pdf
[18:52] <jakemp> I'm not getting usable wireless connectivity with my Lenovo T420 with realtec, and I haven't found an solution to this on the forums.
[18:52] <tfdev> amiteshp: thanks!
[18:52] <tfdev> extraclassic: thanks!
[18:53] <aislin> Could someone PM me about making an ubuntu USB on a mac? I've never touched a mac before my Winblows machine died yesterday and for some reason I can't seem to get this shit to work.
[18:53] <aislin> Consider me full-retard.
[18:54] <truepurple> How do I/is there a way to have hidden directories shown all the time?
[18:54] <h00k> aislin: please keep the language family-friendly
[18:54] <bitmonk> aislin: i've had poor experience doing so, honestly. :/
[18:54] <Jordan_U> aislin: Please don't swear or use "retard" as a derogatory term.
[18:54] <OerHeks> aislin, here is an wiki with the howto and link to unetbootin for mac > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[18:55] <nkh> truepurple: where!? in terminal or nautilus?
[18:55] <truepurple> In nautilus
[18:55] <truepurple> and terminal
[18:56] <JimXL> truepurple: in a terminal alias ls to ls -a
[18:56] <nkh> truepurple: mean when you use ls ?
[18:56] <geekbri> is anybody here a master of locales... Im suddenly having it spew out all sorts of errors and cannot figure out how to fix it
[18:56] <truepurple> I mean all the time
[18:56] <nkh> JimXL: truepurple: just want to say that :D
[18:57] <truepurple> Lets just deal with nautilus for the moment, how do I get that to always show hidden?
[18:57] <JimXL> load your alias at .bashrc time.
[18:58] <JimXL> you used to use gconf-editor
[18:58] <truepurple> JimXL: Was that directed at me?
[18:58] <JimXL> But I don't know if Unity has that any longer.
[18:58] <JimXL> Yes
[18:58] <JimXL> http://www.watchingthenet.com/always-show-hidden-files-in-ubuntu-nautilus-file-browser.html
[18:59] <JimXL> If that doesn't work, stop using Ubuntu. :)
[18:59] <JimXL> They've pretty much ruined a great product.
[18:59] <zeroxffff> what can i do when trying to install a app, system says that some lib wasn't found?
[18:59] <JimXL> install it.
[19:00] <JimXL> What are you using to install your app
[19:00] <zeroxffff> i've try to download firefox 5 .. it just come in tar.gz , when i untar, there's only the folder with some files including the excutable
[19:00] <zeroxffff> but the executable warns this lib problem
[19:01] <JimXL> What version of Ubuntu?
[19:01] <zeroxffff> 10.10
[19:01] <JimXL> What's the lib?
[19:01] <zeroxffff> also i've tried in opensuse and my slackware box
[19:01] <joao> i have problem backtrack 5, (virtualbox) ;s !
[19:01] <lucas49> hi all !!!!
[19:01] <zeroxffff> humm ..let me see
[19:02] <lucas49> how i read the doc's of lib installed on system?
[19:02] <Pici> joao : We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[19:02] <xsbyme> how do i reset my root password
[19:02] <zeroxffff> JimXL, i've deleted the firefox download, but, how to proceed?
[19:02] <lucas49> i have instaled python-qt4-doc
[19:02] <zeroxffff> in generic case?
[19:02] <lucas49> how i red that doc?
[19:02] <helo> leave
[19:02] <JimXL> zeroxffff did you leave the contents somewhere?
[19:03] <xsbyme> how do i reset my root password
[19:03] <joao> i'm sorry ;s !
[19:03] <zeroxffff> no ..humm ..i'll download it again, than i open a pvt with you when the error appear ..ok? thanks
[19:03] <geekbri> Anylocale experts have any clue why when i try to use tab completion in bash it spits out the following error? bash: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (en_US.us-ascii)
[19:03] <stercor_> xsbyme: sudo passwd root
[19:03] <JimXL> OK
[19:03] <Numn> what is passphase for?
[19:04] <Jordan_U> xsbyme: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password by default, and you should *not* create one.
[19:04] <xsbyme> stercor i forget my root password and i cant login
[19:04] <Numn> is something about my docoments folder encryption?
[19:04] <xsbyme> i seted on
[19:04] <oCean> stercor_: please don't recommend that
[19:04] <ParkerR> JimXL, what would the alias line be in .bashrc or ls > ls -a link
[19:04] <ParkerR> *for
[19:05] <JimXL> geekbri might try locale-gen
[19:05] <JimXL> ParkerR you mean for showing hidden files?
[19:05] <geekbri> JimXL: i tried and it runs without error, but if i type locale -a i get a bunch of errors about being unable to set LC_CTYPE, LC_MESSAGES and LC_COLLATE
[19:05] <ParkerR> JimXL, yes
[19:06] <xsbyme> so Jordan_U
[19:06] <xsbyme> how do i reset it
[19:06] <JimXL> alias ls='/bin/ls -a'
[19:06] <ParkerR> Ahh thanks
[19:06] <JimXL> ParkerR ^^^
[19:07] <Numn> can i get fast answer?
[19:07] <DrShoggoth> aliasing commands only makes you forget the switches so that when you use other linux machines things don't work as you would expect
[19:07] <JimXL> pdate-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[19:07] <JimXL> *update-locale
[19:08] <geekbri> JimXL: that results in a series of errors about setting locale failed
[19:08] <JimXL> did you run as root?
[19:08] <pac1> I've got the source for realplay.  There's a Makefile.  How do I build it?
[19:08] <geekbri> JimXL: yes.
[19:08] <JimXL> I don't have a clue then.
[19:08] <geekbri> JimXL: :(
[19:08] <Pici> !compile | pac1
[19:09] <geekbri> JimXL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/649396/
[19:09] <BluesKaj> ParkerR, , now  , try to use letters that aren't other context commands ... that will restrict command to one operation, now ls will only do'/bin/ls -a
[19:09] <ParkerR> well I like it like that
[19:09] <JimXL> geekbri try this export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
[19:10] <ParkerR> I kknow I can set it to something different
[19:10] <ParkerR> *know
[19:10] <BluesKaj> ParkerR, ok it's your alias
[19:11] <ParkerR> JimmyJ, thanks for the aliases reminder. Had some custom ones before and I forgot about them
[19:11] <JimXL> BluesKaj no such luck.  after the alias ls -l gives a full listing.
[19:11] <ParkerR> In natty is .rclocal still the startup script?
[19:12] <photon> is there a way to control the fan speed of your ATI graphics card when using standard pre-installed drivers in 10.04.1 LTS?
[19:12] <JimXL> BluesKaj:  including the hidden files.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> JimXL, yeah it would
[19:13] <Pinchiukas> Anybody can help me set up Huawei E367 in Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:13] <geekbri> JimXL: that seems to have fixed it! will that persist when i log out and in again?
[19:13] <pac1> ./configure; make; make install  doesn't seem to work (there are no confugure files at the top levels of the sources.
[19:13] <JimXL> Maybe not.
[19:13] <geekbri> JimXL: any clue how to force it to set that for all new accounts that get created?
[19:14] <JimXL> LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
[19:14] <BluesKaj> pac1, sudo make install might work
[19:14] <ray24> I haven't had a ubuntu problem in 6 months. why is that
[19:14] <JimXL> Add that line to /etc/default/locale
[19:14] <ParkerR> pac1, maybe there is an autogen.sh
[19:14] <JimXL> geekbri OK?
[19:14] <geekbri> JimXL: trying it now :)
[19:15] <lawltoad> any body here use a lenovo y470? Mine breaks in tons of little ways, and was wondering if its common for the machine
[19:15] <eden6000> @Pinchiukas: see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch-data/+bug/776959
[19:15] <ParkerR> pac1, oh I read that wrong. Nvm
[19:15] <geekbri> JimXL: that fixed it, i can't imagine what would have caused this error in the firsrt place though
[19:15] <lawltoad> also, anyone know the process for the unity bar at the top?
[19:15] <pac1> no autogen
[19:15] <JimXL> geekbri no idea.
[19:15] <geekbri> JimXL: It was after a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade so I wonder if whatever package it was did it
[19:16] <Drake|> hello my ubuntu server just blocked all connections.. on all ports.. anything i can do?:p
[19:17] <JimXL> geekbri might have.
[19:17] <ParkerR> Drake|, why must you stick your tounge out at us? XD
[19:17] <Drake|> cos its a warm day ParkerR
[19:18] <JimXL> pac1 try autoconf
[19:18] <ParkerR> Hehe
[19:19] <Drake|> Don't understand what happend. I lost connection to my ts server.. webserver.. and even ssh internaly.. now i cant connect again.. I get connection refused..
[19:19] <ChesterX> hi, i am running ubuntu with the standart gnome desktop, i would like to know if i can install other desktop environments (KDE, and alike) over the already existing one (so i can choose on the loggin page which one i want to use)?
[19:19] <photon2> is there a way to control the fan speed of your ATI graphics card when using standard pre-installed drivers in 10.04.1 LTS?
[19:19] <ParkerR> Drake|, did you try ssh root@localhost ?
[19:20] <aeon-ltd> ChesterX: yes that's the default behaviour
[19:20] <JimXL> ChesterX that used to work
[19:20] <aeon-ltd> ChesterX: when you isntall DEs just install then log out change session log back in
[19:20] <ParkerR> Works in Fedora XD
[19:20] <JimXL> Unity has broken almost everything I ever knew
[19:20] <JimXL> pac1 Working?
[19:20] <Pici> ParkerR: root doesn't have a password by default in Ubuntu, so that will not work unless you've setup ssh keys.
[19:21] <ChesterX> aeon-ltd & JimXL, can I find them in the ubuntu software center or do I have to download them from the respective project pages?
[19:21] <JimXL> Use the software center.
[19:21] <ParkerR> Pici, True but he might have
[19:21] <mrfoobar> is there a linux alternative for windows fixmbr and fixboot?
[19:21] <ParkerR> Wb Drake|
[19:21] <brittany> new to this type of thing but trying to learn.. how can i rewrite a program?
[19:21] <Drake|> ty.- hmm something happend.. :p
[19:22] <JimXL> mrfoobar learn about grub2 http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[19:22] <Drake|> Is there some sort of block mode on ubuntu server?
[19:22] <JimXL> Drake| firewall perhaps.
[19:23] <JimXL> Are you sure the server didn't just die.
[19:23] <Drake|> yeah just thought of that im testing atm
[19:23] <Drake|> yes my server is alive. I have access to it manually
[19:23] <JimXL> OK well turn the firewall off.
[19:24] <Drake|> JimXL: nope its innactive
[19:24] <alsuna> brittany: rewriting usually means you write something again that already exists in some form. Eg for a different platform, or in a different language. What do you need to do that for?
[19:25] <JimXL> Nothing else I know of.  ARe the services running?  Wait what about selinux?
[19:25] <mrfoobar> so there is no linux alternative for fixboot and fixmbr?
[19:25] <TheRedOctober> Hi all. I need to figure out how to install something like sendmail to work as an smtp relay, but I cannot find jack for decent human-readable documentation
[19:26] <Pinchiukas> eden6000: doesn't work for me.
[19:26] <JimXL> mrfoobar yes the grub commands will let you rewrite the mbr and set boot options.
[19:26] <ParkerR> Drake|, maybe loose cable? Always a possibility
[19:26] <JimXL> There isn't an exact match, but you can do the same thing.
[19:26] <carbon357> does anyone know how to open a windows registry file in linux.  For editing.
[19:26] <llutz> TheRedOctober: i'd suggest using postfix, not sendmail http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html
[19:26] <mrfoobar> and grub2 can work off a ntfs partition?
[19:27] <eden6000> sorry, thought you hadn't seen it...
[19:27] <JimXL> mrfoobar not really
[19:27] <mrfoobar> not really?
[19:27] <Pinchiukas> Holy crap! It worked!
[19:27] <Pinchiukas> How do I make this thing permanent?
[19:27] <JimXL> It's a linux command  If you want to screw with ntfs partions use windows.
[19:27] <eden6000> ;-)
[19:27] <TheRedOctober> llutz: roger, that'll do the job.  thanks.
[19:27] <n-iCe> Anyone knows how can I watch a video streaming in a ssh server in a tty or terminal?
[19:27] <ParkerR> Pinchiukas, what did you fix?
[19:28] <mrfoobar> what does a linux command have to do with grub2 loading boot files of ntfs filesystem?
[19:28] <JimXL> not a thing.
[19:28] <mrfoobar> yeah
[19:28] <jack^_> TheRedOctober: i have it setup in rhel. not sure the difference but there was only 1 configuration change need
[19:28] <JimXL> you use grub commands to install linux and add a windows partition to the boot menu.
[19:28] <w0ls0n> http://freebsdrocks.net << IS THE BEST OS EVAR!
[19:29] <mrfoobar> yeah but what if all you have is a NTFS partition
[19:29] <jack^_> # cat /etc/mail/sendmail.mc | grep HOST
[19:29] <jack^_> define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp-server.nc.rr.com]')dnl
[19:29] <JimXL> Then run windows.
[19:29] <jack^_> TheRedOctober: ^
[19:29] <mrfoobar> i presume grub2 can get the stage2 from ntfs
[19:29] <mrfoobar> since u recommended it
[19:30] <JimXL> I don't know if grub2 can read ntfs at the time it needs to get stage2.
[19:30] <Pinchiukas> ParkerR: no idea. Just worked this time for some reason.
[19:30] <mrfoobar> then why did you recommend it as a replacemtn for fixmbr and fixboot
[19:30] <telxt> i have a ubuntu 11.04 running, which uses 200gb of my hdd, the rest of the hdd is used by other OS's. Now i want to add a new partition to ubuntu e.g /opt/vmware, is there any guide for this?
[19:30] <JimXL> Why don't you run parted, compress the ntfs partition and create a linux partition.
[19:30] <figure002> does anyone know how to start a Wine game in a separate xserver? The usual xinit doesn't work with games that start with Wine.
[19:30] <MrNthDegree> telxt, go grab gparted, it's a graphical tool that makes life easy
[19:30] <Pinchiukas> How can I eliminate the need for the modprobe command?
[19:31] <JimXL> When someone asks on a Linux channel I assume they want equivalent commands to run on linux.
[19:31] <carbon357> telxt : put in another hd
[19:31] <carbon357> ;)
[19:31] <telxt> got 800gb left on this one :>
[19:31] <JimXL> mrfoobar for instance, if you asked if there is a replacement for dir is
[19:32] <JimXL> id suggest ls
[19:32] <love4linux> hello everyone...  I am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop with two hdds (win7 and linux) and I need help... with whom may I speak about it?
[19:32] <JimXL> Just ask.
[19:32] <love4linux> okays...
[19:33] <eden6000> @ Pinchiukas: sudo gedit /etc/modules.conf  and put the name of the module at the end
[19:33] <telxt> MrNthDegree, could i allocate my ntfs file system with gparted and make it ext4?
[19:33] <carbon357> telxt : ahh   use gparted on a live cd.  Be careful though.  I've had issues moving around some ntfs partitions.  Make sure they are full defraged and do a chkdsk on it
[19:33] <love4linux> emm I have a laptop with win7 and fc15 and I want to completely erase fc15 and install ubuntu.
[19:33] <marsfligth> Compiz is a default package for ubuntu?
[19:33] <JimXL> telxt and back up any critical data
[19:34] <maco> marsfligth: yes
[19:34] <MrNthDegree> telxt, it'll let you resize partitions, and if you're not already using 4 primary partitions, you can make an extended partition which can contain many partitions inside it
[19:34] <carbon357> marsflight : not sure is the base components are default but you need a few other programs to get the full benefit
[19:34] <MrNthDegree> telxt, but make sure you back up first, resizing is always risky
[19:34] <figure002> love4linux: you can overwrite Fedora with Ubuntu; select the Fedora partition to install to upon installation
[19:34] <love4linux> I can't find an option for automatically partitioning my linux drive
[19:35] <marsfligth> maco: how to disable it or reduce the sucking
[19:35] <JimXL> love4linux do manual install
[19:35] <carbon357> mrnthdegree : fo sho
[19:35] <maco> marsfligth: metacity --replace    ?
[19:35] <JimXL> love4linux:  don't do automatic.
[19:35] <love4linux> JimXL is there a tutorial about that?
[19:35] <MrNthDegree> automatic sucks, make a /, /tmp, swap  and /home
[19:35] <MrNthDegree> and that covers most use cases on the desktop
[19:35] <carbon357> mrsflight : get a better video card  lol ;)
[19:35] <JimXL> love4linux: I don't know of one, but it's pretty simple.
[19:36] <telxt> kk thanks all
[19:36] <figure002> JimXL: why manual, if i may ask?
[19:36] <JimXL> love4linux: auto modes don't quite cover your specific needs.
[19:36] <marsfligth> maco: thanks, i hope that w/o compiz i rescue some power
[19:37] <JimXL> love4linux: When you go into manual it lets you select what partition to reformat and where to put Ubunutu.
[19:37] <love4linux> yeah i know, although for such a great distro it should have an automatic partitioning
[19:37] <JimXL> love4linux: It does.
[19:37] <love4linux> i mean, opensuse and fedora (which I used) have
[19:37] <telxt> another question: i didnt used linux for 2 years. back then it was possible to encrypt partitions while installing Ubuntu/Debian, i didnt see this option in 11.04.
[19:38] <JimXL> love4linux: but it doesn't cover all possible options automatically
[19:38] <Pinchiukas> eden6000: along with the parameters?
[19:38] <love4linux> JimXL: so, should I choose the option 'something else'
[19:38] <telxt> did this change came along with ext4?
[19:38] <acicula> telxt: full disk encryption is supported only by the alternate installer
[19:38] <manylulus> I need help!
[19:39] <JimXL> love4linux: it's really not that hard.  Juist a few mouse clicks.  I don't remember s something else.
[19:39] <acicula> !help | manylulus
[19:39] <love4linux> JimXL: can you guide me through? dont worry I am not a newbie with linux : )
[19:39] <JimXL> http://www.basicconfig.com/ubuntu_desktop_manual_partition_guide
[19:39] <The> I AM a newbie :P
[19:39] <JimXL> Try that first.
[19:39] <manylulus> Sorry...  How do you move to a network volume in terminal?
[19:40] <eden6000> Pinchiukas: I don't know, I'm not so expert....try with the parameters and reboot...if it doesn't work remove it...
[19:40] <manylulus> using cd command i mean
[19:40] <MrNthDegree> telxt, encrypting entire partitions should be avoided, it's in 90% of cases unnecessary
[19:40] <love4linux> JimXL: okays I will have a look now
[19:40] <JimXL> Is the volume mounted?
[19:40] <love4linux> thanks
[19:40] <JimXL> Sure.
[19:40] <MrNthDegree> telxt, with exception to swap and /tmp which can do with random keys/reformat on boot
[19:40] <manylulus> does it have to be mounted in terminal?
[19:40] <JimXL> manylulus Are you running NFS?
[19:41] <manylulus> I can see it in GUI
[19:41] <TheCyph3r> Is there a way to control laptop battery settings? (ex: battery saver, high perf, etc.) ?
[19:41] <faLUCE> Hi, I'm searching for a text editor (or something similar) which allows me to compose sentences by defined rules. For example: it allows only words "one" "two" "three" and if I type "one" then I must type "two". it has to be simpler than emacs... any idea?
[19:41] <JimXL> manylulus from the command line, do a "mount"
[19:41] <eden6000> but, Pinchiukas, did you try the fix Didier Raboud proposes?
[19:41] <manylulus> nfs, I think I did something with that
[19:41] <JimXL> Look for the volume.  Then cd to where it got mounted.
[19:41] <telxt> MrNthDegree, hm kk, so its not possible to encrypt everything except /boot?
[19:42] <manylulus> mount (name of the volume)?
[19:42] <JimXL> no
[19:42] <JimXL> just mount it will list all mounted volumes
[19:42] <TheCyph3r> Is there a way to control laptop battery settings? (ex: battery saver, high perf, etc.) ?
[19:42] <MrNthDegree> telxt, it is technically, but it's stupid to
[19:42] <JimXL> just "mount", it will list all mounted volumes
[19:42] <MrNthDegree> telxt, one gains no benefit from it because most of the data in /usr /var etc. it all OS data and is not private, nor gains any integrity from encryption
[19:43] <manylulus> I don't see it on the list
[19:43] <manylulus> I guess it's not mounted....
[19:43] <telxt> MrNthDegree, k thanks alot.
[19:43] <MrNthDegree> telxt, /home, /tmp and swap are the only things that really need encryption and /home/* is handled OOTB in the best way going
[19:43] <JimXL> It has to be if you see it in a gui.  What gui?  Nautilus?
[19:44] <carbon357> thecyph3r : right click top tool bar . select add to panel.  add cpu freq scalling monitor.
[19:44] <manylulus> Oh Jim, I'm sorry I'm not sure what is, I'm using ubuntu 11.4
[19:44] <JimXL> Did you click "places" to bring it up?
[19:44] <manylulus> no
[19:44] <JimXL> How?
[19:45] <manylulus> I clicked "Network" and went in
[19:45] <JimXL> Oh.
[19:45] <manylulus> that's not good, huh?
[19:45] <intlkleinblue> hello, I'm on this emoji-domain website: http://xn--ls8h.la/
[19:45] <JimXL> I'm not sure what Network goes to.
[19:45] <intlkleinblue> and the emoji text is not showing up
[19:45] <intlkleinblue> just a rotating rectangel
[19:45] <intlkleinblue> what font am i missing?
[19:45] <TheCyph3r> carbon357: thanks a lot!
[19:46] <manylulus> so what should I do?
[19:46] <acicula> telxt: did you have a specific reason for wanting to use fde or just curious?
[19:46] <JimXL> ARe you trying to get to a windows volume?
[19:46] <carbon357> thecyph3r : no prob
[19:46] <manylulus> it's a NAS
[19:46] <SATAv2> can someone help me install the visual c++ runtime library
[19:46] <SATAv2> with wine/winetricks
[19:46] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, no clue
[19:47] <JimXL> Hm, So are now looking at the files in the file manager?
[19:47] <ParkerR> SATAv2, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5766
[19:47] <intlkleinblue> SATAv2: just search visual c++ in synaptic and download the libvdk2-2c2 and doc
[19:47] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, I don/t think so
[19:47] <ParkerR> *don't
[19:47] <telxt> acicula, got a notebook with some sensible data, for example many ftp accesses for my work
[19:47] <manylulus> it looks like it's going through windows thing
[19:48] <intlkleinblue> delegate ParkerR to help you SATAv2, he knows what he's talking about
[19:48] <manylulus> otherwise, it's 192.168.1.5
[19:48] <JimXL> I suspect you won't be able to do it from a terminal window
[19:48] <SATAv2> howd i do that
[19:48] <SATAv2> :/
[19:48] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, he want's it running in WINE
[19:48] <Guest11098> using the command line how do i get teh temperature of my cpu
[19:49] <llutz> Guest11098: "sensors"  if lm-sensors is installed
[19:49] <bobweaver> why does ubiquity keep skipping username and password part
[19:49] <ParkerR> SATAv2, I'm looking
[19:49] <SATAv2> thanks ParkerR
[19:49] <ParkerR> SATAv2, maybe try Playonlinux
[19:49] <SATAv2> its for a math program they dont have it
[19:50] <ParkerR> Who doesn't have it?
[19:50] <SATAv2> playonlinux
[19:50] <ParkerR> Oh
[19:50] <ParkerR> Hmm
[19:50] <th0r> SATAv2: have you downloaded the run time library?
[19:50] <carbon357> guest11098 : sudo sensors-detect
[19:50] <telxt> acicula, and iam feeling more comfortably ofc:)
[19:50] <SATAv2> yes ive tried but it didnt work
[19:51] <love4linux> JimXL: just to make sure, I have 4GB RAM, so I should use 1024 MB?
[19:51] <love4linux> for the swap
[19:51] <intlkleinblue> hmm, the emoji is supposed to look like this apparently and works in iOS and Snow Leapord: http://i.imgur.com/owBxH.jpg
[19:51] <ParkerR> Ehh swap shouldnt need to be that high
[19:51] <acicula> telxt: well the ubuntu installer provides encrypting your user data as an option at the start
[19:51] <acicula> when you run the installer i mean
[19:51] <telxt> hmm
[19:51] <JimXL> love4linux you might not need any
[19:52] <ParkerR> I have 4gb and I made a 512mb swap
[19:52] <caddoo> how could i find the route of this issue, had FF open, and VLC playing a movie, suddenly my computer started getting slower and slower
[19:52] <telxt> i did that on 9.04 and 8.04
[19:52] <caddoo> until mouse barely moved
[19:52] <telxt> but didnt saw that open on 11.04
[19:52] <telxt> option*
[19:52] <ParkerR> Swap is more useful when you have less amounts of RAM
[19:52] <love4linux> hmmm... so swap comes in, when exactly? when I am using all my RAM?
[19:52] <acicula> telxt: should be there as a toggle
[19:52] <th0r> ParkerR: general rule is to use about 1.5 times ram for swap
[19:52] <ParkerR> Waah
[19:52] <ParkerR> Why would you do that?
[19:53] <tomodachi> i want to add a custom module to be loaded by grub. But im uncertain where to put it?
[19:53] <SATAv2> it doesnt even install
[19:53] <ParkerR> so 6gb swap
[19:53] <JimXL> love4linux Go ahead.  Well, not many people run out of 4G  of ram  Do you do a lot of stuff that needs loads of RAM?
[19:53] <ParkerR> Nono
[19:53] <love4linux> i think the rule is twice your RAM
[19:53] <telxt> acicula, hmm then i must be blind, i actually looked for it when i was installing
[19:53] <llutz> it might have been a rule, when 128/256MB were normal
[19:53] <ParkerR> Yeah
[19:53] <ParkerR> But 4g you really don't need a lot of swap
[19:53] <JimXL> love4linux llutz is right.
[19:53] <acicula> telxt: pretty sure its still there as an option when you create the user
[19:53] <th0r> ParkerR: if you have a lot of ram (more than 2GB) then swap isn't normally needed unless you do things like video editing
[19:53] <ParkerR> My point
[19:53] <ParkerR> :)
[19:53] <love4linux> emm... not really. I don't use any heavy multimedia software
[19:54] <JimXL> so no swap is fine
[19:54] <llutz> swap>=RAM  is only needed if you plan to use hibernation
[19:54] <tomodachi> love4linux: if you have a laptop take as much swap as you have ram. Since you would like to suspend/hibernate then it needs to store your ram on disk. If not i would go for half
[19:54] <telxt> acicula, y next time :D
[19:54] <nrao> Hi I am trying to install MFC-7460DN printer. Its in network mode, ubuntu sees the printer and installs it, but can not print to it
[19:54] <intlkleinblue> GAAH, i find the ibus-table-emoji package, but it's only for Maverick and higher...i'm on 10.04 :(
[19:54] <SATAv2> i still need help D;
[19:54] <nrao> I mean test page does not appear at the printer
[19:54] <carbon357> llutz : or if you have a tiny amount of ram
[19:54] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, htta'll work
[19:54] <acicula> if you want to suspend to disk, and you have a high amount of memory in use when you suspend you will need that amount of swapspace to suspend to or suspending will fail.
[19:54] <ParkerR> *that will
[19:54] <truepurple> In a thread, someone told me to "make it executable (+x)", what does this mean?
[19:54]  * vlt has 16 GB of RAM and sometimes the machine swaps (swap size 4G)
[19:55] <love4linux> tomodachi i think you right
[19:55] <acicula> yeah a little swap space is not a bad idea
[19:55] <llutz> carbon357: nope, if you need to use swap on regular base, you won't have much fun with your computer
[19:55] <JimXL> love4linux: are you creating a swap partition or just using an existing one.
[19:55] <love4linux> tomodachi probably your right
[19:55] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, you can use the maverick package on 10.04
[19:55] <love4linux> JimXL I am creating a new one right now
[19:56] <BluesKaj> swaps are occasionlly useful ...they get put to use with ffmpeg , dd , and k9copy , so what's a few gigs that can help make video work smoother
[19:56] <JimXL> OK 1 or 2 GB.
[19:56] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, it won't hurt anything
[19:56] <bobweaver> Ubuntu wont let me change my username and password in install what is going on here
[19:56] <bobweaver> just skipps that part
[19:56] <bobweaver> just skips that part *
[19:56] <JimXL> I'm running 2GB memory w 1GB swap.
[19:56] <intlkleinblue> ParkerR: but when I try sudo apt-get install'ing the package, it says no package found
[19:56] <alsuna> truepurple: allow the system to execute the code within the file
[19:57] <telxt> acicula, i probably looked for it while i was configuring the partitions and didnt think about it afterwards :<
[19:57] <marsfligth> I activated 'bash completion' in '/etc', now which new functions are available? In more does exist a sort of 'keyboard shortcuts manual' specific for Ubuntu default shell with completion active?
[19:57] <manylulus> So, Jim, there's no way for me to mount a network volume?
[19:57] <truepurple> alsuna: but what does "(+x)" mean?
[19:57] <carbon357> llutz : true but the original idea of the swap file was for when there was not enough ram in the system so i've come to believe.  Its from way back now a days
[19:57] <nrao> Anyone using brother - mfc7460dn printer? Can not print to it.
[19:57] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/ibus-table-emoji
[19:57] <JimXL> manylulus if it's a windows thing, then I suspect not.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> bobweaver,skips  what part ?
[19:58] <alsuna> it means to add (+) execution (x) rights
[19:58] <ParkerR> Download the .deb from there
[19:58] <bobweaver> username and password part
[19:58] <Xenplex> +x means you can execute the file
[19:58] <intlkleinblue> gotcha
[19:58] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: username and password part
[19:58] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, http://mirror.pnl.gov/ubuntu//pool/universe/i/ibus-table-code/ibus-table-emoji_1.2.0.20100305-1_all.deb
[19:58] <BluesKaj> during the install? bobweaver
[19:58] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: Yes
[19:58] <truepurple> alsuna: And this is done in properties, permissions, right?
[19:58] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: something is wrong with ubiquity
[19:59] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: I think
[19:59] <manylulus> JimXL the NAS itself run on Linux
[19:59] <alsuna> truepurple: nope, this is done on the commandline
[19:59] <BluesKaj> bobweaver, so it was greyed out , or wouldn'r acccept your keystrokes or ?
[19:59] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: just goes from keyboard to install
[20:00] <truepurple> alsuna: So what is the make executable in properties > permissions about then? Is that something separate?
[20:00] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: I tryed to remove ubiquity and reinstall but then it wont launch
[20:00] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, really? Just a rotating poop
[20:00] <intlkleinblue> haha, yep. from Panic Co
[20:00] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: even tried to compile it my self
[20:01] <intlkleinblue> i'm not seeing it in chrome, but lemme try firefox
[20:01] <BluesKaj> bobweaver, better burn another image , sounds borked
[20:01] <love4linux> JimXL: I am about to create the '/' directory. my hdd is 250GB. what size you think is best? between 30-50Gb is ok?
[20:01] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, try rebooting. I'm not even sure that is the package you wanted
[20:01] <alsuna> truepurple: i believe that is the same.
[20:01] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: have checked md5sum also
[20:01] <bobweaver> all looks good
[20:02] <JimXL> love4linux Sure unless you think you'll need more.
[20:02] <truepurple> alsuna: So what is the command way to make a file executable?
[20:02] <rocket16> Hey guys, does gm-notify work on ubuntu 11.04? Apparently, I can't get it working (I use the classic gnome btw)
[20:02] <jakemp> I'm not getting usable wireless connectivity with my Lenovo T420 with realtec, and I haven't found an solution to this on the forums.
[20:02] <intlkleinblue> ParkerR: yeah, in FF there is no rotating, just a static rectangle with 💩
[20:02] <intlkleinblue> those numbers
[20:02] <ParkerR> Yeah Firefox doesn't have that support to begin with
[20:02] <intlkleinblue> heh. i think that package was only for emoji imput perhaps
[20:02] <acicula> jakemp: have you updated ubuntu yet?
[20:02] <intlkleinblue> *input
[20:02] <acicula> jakemp: i mean installed the updates
[20:02] <ParkerR> Firefox cannot do the text transformations
[20:02] <alsuna> truepurple: going through the gui as you just described does the same. On the commandline you type chmod +x file
[20:03] <jakemp> Yes, I've tried 11.04 most recent and the 11.10 Alpha
[20:03] <rocket16> truepurple: "chmod +x filename.extension"
[20:03] <rocket16> truepurple: Without quotes, obviously
[20:03] <acicula> jakemp: no, i mean did you install updates during installation and/or did you run update-manager afterwardsw
[20:03] <jakemp> during
[20:03] <love4linux> JimXL: i don't really mess with my root directory..but I need space for my /home.. If I use 30GB, is there a possibility of exceeding this size? without me adding anything in the '/'?
[20:03] <jakemp> and then again after
[20:03] <jakemp> it's been a while since the install.
[20:03] <BluesKaj> bobweaver, did you start the install , if you chose install ubuntu it goess directly to the install procedure afaik, ubiquity will then start
[20:04] <bobweaver> BluesKaj: both
[20:04] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, doesn't look like you can do emoji in Ubuntu
[20:04] <acicula> jakemp: so updated using using a network cable?
[20:04] <JimXL> love4linux I don't think that's a problem with any reasonable use of the OS
[20:04] <jakemp> Yes.
[20:04] <truepurple> rocket16: First I'd have to navigate to the directory in question holding the file, right? Unless I chained it with a path somehow?
[20:04] <jakemp> And been using it since.
[20:04] <jakemp> Also, the wireless works on Windows, and there are other people on the forums with this problem
[20:04] <acicula> jakemp: does Addtional drivers list  driver for your wireless card?
[20:05] <jakemp> Yes
[20:05] <rocket16> truepurple: Yeah, right. Use cd for that
[20:05] <JimXL> love4linux give it 50 and use 150 for home.  If need be you can use the other 50 at a later date for something else.
[20:05] <love4linux> JimXL: okays..30GB it is then..going for the next step
[20:05] <acicula> jakemp: do you have a specific type/model name?
[20:05] <rocket16> !gm-notify
[20:05] <truepurple> rocket16: Can I do things like that without changing my directory location in terminal?
[20:05] <acicula> jakemp: did you activate that driver and/or does it list the driver as active?
[20:05] <love4linux> JimXL: okays.. i ll do it 50
[20:05] <slayton> hi all! I'm trying to compile an gtkglext example file under ubuntu 10.10 and I think I have the right dev packages installed but I keep getting errors saying that gtk/gtkgl.h can't be found....
[20:05] <slayton> errr....
[20:05] <alsuna> truepurple: yes, just give it the full path of the file
[20:05] <nero> hey
[20:06] <alsuna> truepurple: like chomd +x full/path/to/the/file
[20:06] <nero> new to ubunutu.. any1 know how to install tp-link stikc?
[20:07] <truepurple> OK, thankyou all
[20:07] <BluesKaj> bobweaver, ubiquity doesn't ask for the username and pw imediately, it does a bunchof hw file checking etc first
[20:07] <intlkleinblue> ParkerR: isn't emoji not even part of unicode standard?
[20:07] <intlkleinblue> is that why?
[20:07] <ParkerR> intlkleinblue, nope
[20:07] <ParkerR> Yep
[20:07] <makara> hi. On Natty trying to create program launcher. From terminal I navigate to "/home/makara/Programs/Morinus" and type "./morinus.sh". What to put in command line of application launcher?
[20:07] <ihsw> can i monitor the temperature of my cpu using htop
[20:08] <nero> anyone that have time to help me with some stuff+
[20:08] <nero> +
[20:08] <ParkerR> nero, whats up
[20:08] <alsuna> makara: try bash /home/makara/Programs/Morinus/morinus.sh
[20:08] <nero> Tryin to install my tp-link to this computer with ubuntu. but dont find the drivers for it
[20:08] <intlkleinblue> alright thanks ParkerR, 'appreciated!
[20:09] <carbon357> oh goodness tp-link    blah
[20:09] <carbon357> lol
[20:09] <nero> carbon357: Haha yeah i know :P got it from a friend..
[20:10] <carbon357> nero: lol
[20:10] <sadmicrowave> anyone know the location of the harddrive icon?
[20:10] <nero> f
[20:10] <nero>  z
[20:10] <nero> <z
[20:10] <nero>  
[20:10] <FloodBot1> nero: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <TheRedOctober> Hi all.  I am sorta failing miserably here.  I need to configure a MUA to send emails from command line...suggestions and or guides?
[20:10] <Senix> how do i change my default apps in ubuntu 11.04?
[20:11] <jakemp> Sorry, my computer crashed
[20:11] <nero> carbon357: So any idea?
[20:11] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, what email provider?
[20:12] <jakemp> There are no drivers listed in the proprietary drivers list
[20:12] <TheRedOctober> ParkerR: it is an authenticated smtp server, not sure which I am using yet (whether google apps or isp)
[20:12] <makara> alsuna Something flicks and then disappears. Contents of morinus.sh here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/649437/
[20:12] <jakemp> but lspci give me: 03:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01
[20:12] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, so gmail?
[20:12] <TheRedOctober> ParkerR: yes.
[20:13] <kajakajo> My ethernet card has not been autoconfigured in ubuntu, or even recognized I think. I'm running 10.04. Where do I start?
[20:13] <alsuna> makara: tick the option to open in terminal. does that work?
[20:13] <kajakajo> (Wifi is fine)
[20:13] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, http://lifehacker.com/5574557/how-to-use-the-fast-and-powerful-mutt-email-client-with-gmail
[20:13] <carbon357> nero : a quick google looks like there might be a driver but you have to compile it.  it could be tricky
[20:13] <JimXL> kajakajo ifconfig -a show it up?
[20:13] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, all you need to get it set up
[20:13] <kajakajo> JimXL, no
[20:14] <kajakajo> JimXL, just lo and wlan
[20:14] <alsuna> makara: or you just do a direct: python /home/makara/Programs/Morinus/morinus.py
[20:14] <JimXL> OK lspci | grep ethernet
[20:14] <carbon357> nero: I for go the head aches and get a real card
[20:14] <carbon357> nero : i'd ;)
[20:14] <kajakajo> JimXL, did those. Also doesn't show it up.
[20:14] <pwork> Hello, I've a strange problem getting mysql running fine on ubuntu : if I run "sudo -u mysql mysqld" in a terminal, I can "mysql -u root" flawlessly in another. But when I run "sudo start mysql" instead of the mysqld command, I get no output at all and process ends. Nothing in /var/log/mysql/err.log, nothing in /var/log/syslog. I don't know why, but even with a purge and install, mysql doesn't start as a boot service. I expected getting
[20:14] <pwork>  brackets output, like "[Ok]" or "[Failed]"
[20:14] <JimXL> So the hardware isn't even being found.
[20:14] <TheRedOctober> ParkerR: thx for the help
[20:15] <ParkerR> Np
[20:15] <love4linux> JimXL: i have almost 200GB free space left and three directories to create, namely, /home, /usr/local and /var. In the how-to you gave me it does nt tell anything about the size of /usr/local or /var and the /var directories holds or the logs, right?
[20:15] <makara> alsuna first solution didn't work. 2nd works. Thank you
[20:15] <kajakajo> JimXL, right. It's a netbook, Acer Aspire One, AOD255
[20:15] <alsuna> makara: you're welcome
[20:15] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, that's what I use when I just want to check it quickly
[20:15] <JimXL> kajakajo boot a 11.04 live disk and see if it finds the card.
[20:16] <edbian> love4linux: /var holds all files that vary in size regularly.  The log files included
[20:16] <love4linux> edbian, what size would you recommend?
[20:16] <JimXL> love4linux: I only have two partitions, / and /home  I let /usr/local /var and all the other stay on the root part.
[20:16] <edbian> love4linux: No idea.  My /var is under 1Gb though
[20:16] <edbian> It's like ~300Mb
[20:17] <kajakajo> JimXL, that will require downloading 11.04, several hundred megabytes--I can start doing that, but is there a more efficient way to do this?
[20:17] <love4linux> JimXL: hmm so if i dont create it manually now, the OS will do it for me afterwards?
[20:17] <JimXL> love4linux: you've got 50 Gb, that's enough
[20:17] <pwork> I wonder if the upstart job mechanism is not broken on my install : any clue to check this ?
[20:17] <TheRedOctober> ParkerR: I use mutt as well, just looking to set up a very small box to send emails on condition...figured there was some other way to do it (there is), but I can't figure out a down and dirty MUA to use...
[20:17] <JimXL> love4linux it will work fine.
[20:17] <TheRedOctober> or at least how to configure it
[20:17] <love4linux> JimXL: okays.. continuing with the partitioning
[20:18] <JimXL> kajakajo I don't know of a way to get it recognized.  If lspci doesn't find it, then you're lost.
[20:18] <ParkerR> TheRedOctober, yeah that .muttrc is the easiest way from what I have heard. I heard horrific stories od getting mutt set up
[20:18] <ParkerR> *of
[20:19] <jca> hi
[20:19] <JimXL> kajakajo have you done a apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade lately?
[20:19] <ParkerR> Hello
[20:19] <JimXL> A newer kernel might just find it.
[20:19] <LA9KSA> Hi, I'm trying to get a dual screen setup working on Natty. I'm running on a nVidia 8800GTS with the nVidia X Server running. I'm pretty fresh to messing around with X and hasn't really gotten my head around how it works yet. I think that what I want to setup is "Separate X screens" with Xinerama. When I try to enable Xinerama, the bootup of X fails. My current xorg.conf is at http://pastebin.com/sVMgAyp2
[20:21] <jca> kill all humans
[20:21] <nero> carbon357: hmm okey.. :(
[20:21] <edbian> jca: bender?
[20:21] <kajakajo> JimXL, no, will do that now.
[20:21] <mouse> ok i did a sudo apt-get (install-application) how do i uninstall? i forget
[20:21] <Northernen> Is it possible to test one's xorg.conf without having to reboot?
[20:21] <jca> bite my shiny metal
[20:22] <JimXL> Just on the off chance that  a newer kernel might find the board.  How new is the laptop?
[20:22] <jca> edbian, :)
[20:22] <LA9KSA> mouse: sudo apt-get remove x?
[20:22] <RocketLauncher> I have irssi on gnome terminal but when i get highlighted or a message or kicked the panel doesn't flash or anything. whhat do i do
[20:22] <nero> carbon357: but its a pretty old packard bell, think i can take my wireless card from my compaq? :p
[20:22] <ParkerR> mouse, just apt-get uninstall package
[20:22] <alsuna> mouse: sudo apt-get remove (app)
[20:22] <ParkerR> Oh remove
[20:22] <love4linux> JimXL: now its the tricky part... the windows 7 is installed on /dev/sda and ubuntu on /dev/sdb.. where should I put the bootloader? sda,sda1,sda2 or sdb,sdb2,sdb3?
[20:22] <mouse> LA9KSA: thank you
[20:22] <LA9KSA> np
[20:23] <edbian> love4linux: the boot loader is installed to a hdd not a partition (i.e. /dev/sda   or /dev/sdb)
[20:23] <Northernen> Is it possible to test one's xorg.conf without having to reboot?
[20:24] <love4linux> edbian: okays.. so, on which one? the sda (win7) or sdb(ubuntu)?
[20:24] <maco> Northernen: sudo service gdm restart?
[20:24] <tensorpudding> Northernen: reboot no, but you have to logout and restart gdm
[20:24] <JimXL> love4linux does it give you a suggestion?
[20:24] <edbian> love4linux: It doesn't matter :)
[20:24] <si4re> help
[20:25] <Northernen> maco, cheers, will try.
[20:25] <edbian> love4linux: Which one do you want to tell your bios to boot
[20:25] <love4linux> edbian: emm.. by default it point at the /dev/sda which is the windows7
[20:25] <JimXL> agreed
[20:25] <edbian> love4linux: then put it there or you have to change the bios
[20:25] <edbian> love4linux: How are are you installing grub?
[20:26] <love4linux> i am asking this because i had problems with fedora and grub
[20:26] <love4linux> opensuse had this automatically done with no errors at all
[20:26] <nit-wit> fedora is grub-legacy
[20:26] <edbian> love4linux: I am very certain I can get grub working for you :)
[20:26] <love4linux> : )
[20:26] <love4linux> okay so I will continue with the sda
[20:26] <al_nz1> how do I add a user to have write permission to a dir?
[20:26] <JimXL> Fortunately grub is not rocket science.
[20:27] <edbian> love4linux: great
[20:27] <nit-wit> love4linux, generally grub2 is best in the mbr of the HD where the OS is installed. It may not work in sda
[20:27] <JimXL> al_nz1 a directory that the user does not own?
[20:27] <TheCyph3r> Hypothetical question...I have a windows/ubuntu dualboot, and want to replace the Ubuntu with Backtrack. How can I do that w/o losing the GRUB and havin to install the MBI ?
[20:27] <love4linux> JimXL: no its not but i had to start changing hd0,1, hd1,1 and so on until i hit on the correct configuration
[20:27] <TheCyph3r> MBR**
[20:28] <JimXL> love4linux right.
[20:28] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, backtrack is grub-legacy or was
[20:28] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, do you have the latest release?
[20:28] <TheCyph3r> nit-wit: of backtrack? Yes, backtrack 5
[20:29] <edbian> TheCyph3r: most likely the backtrack installer will install grub again.  The grub installed now will probably not be configured correctly to run backtrack.
[20:29] <edbian> TheCyph3r: backtrack is offtopic here though :P
[20:29] <ihsw> can i monitor the temperature of my cpu using htop
[20:30] <TheCyph3r> edbian: lol sorry, I just figured that since it's a derivative of Ubuntu, I might be able to get a little feedback
[20:30] <edbian> TheCyph3r: you got all you're gonna get I think :)
[20:30] <carbon357> thecypher : not %100 but you should just be able to run the installer for backtrack, over right the ubuntu partition and it "should" reinstall grub and automaticly add the windows partition to the boot options
[20:30] <nit-wit> the latest backtrack is grub2
[20:31] <jca> sudo godnight
[20:31] <TheCyph3r> okay, thanks all :)
[20:31] <carbon357> lol
[20:32] <acicula> TheCyph3r: the trick to adding another os without messing with your current bootloader is to, surprise, not install it over your current bootloader. what you can do is just put the bootloader for the new os on the os's own partition instead of the mbr
[20:33] <TheCyph3r> acicula: that makes sense. so essentially, it would be a triple-boot until I remove whatever other OS I want to get rid of?
[20:34] <al_nz1> JimXL: yes
[20:34] <Jordan_U> acicula: TheCyph3r: Leaving Ubuntu's grub in the mbr, but wiping out your Ubuntu partition (which contains 75% of grub's files), would simply leave you with a non-booting system.
[20:34] <acicula> TheCyph3r: yeah, depending on the os you are adding you can also use the existing grub bootloader to boot a kernel directly
[20:34] <JustSighDudes> Can a boot drive be replaced? I have an SSD arriving later in the week but I don't have the patience to wait for it. I want to start my build.
[20:35] <edbian> JustSighDudes: sure
[20:35] <edbian> JustSighDudes: You can install grub on any hdd you want!
[20:35] <acicula> Jordan_U: correct, but i thought he was adding?
[20:35] <JustSighDudes> edbian: I meant /boot
[20:35] <edbian> JustSighDudes: I think it would be hard to regenerate from scratch.
[20:35] <JimXL> al_nz1 add the user to the group of the directory.
[20:35] <al_nz1> JimXL: sorry user does own it but wants to give another user write perms
[20:35] <acicula> if hes overwriting a current ubuntu partition that contains /boot then that will break the loader
[20:35] <Jordan_U> acicula: 13:27 < TheCyph3r> Hypothetical question...I have a windows/ubuntu dualboot, and want to replace the Ubuntu with Backtrack.
[20:35] <TheCyph3r> jordan_u: I think that's what happened the other day to me. I tried changing from fedora to ubuntu, while dualbooted with vista, but i couldnt boot anything
[20:35] <al_nz1> JimXL: how?
[20:36] <acicula> Jordan_U: ah, thanks :)
[20:36] <Jordan_U> acicula: You're welcome :)
[20:36] <JimXL> sudo vi /etc/group
[20:37] <JimXL> Find the group belonging to the directory and add the user to it
[20:37] <ParkerR> edbian, is your name a typo or was that intentional? XD
[20:37] <edbian> ParkerR: My name is Ed.  My disto is Debian.  My nick is edbian
[20:37] <ParkerR> Ahh I see
[20:37] <JustSighDudes> Anyone know how I can get google to include the / in /boot in the search?
[20:37] <MysteriousMan> hi any one know gtkmm here?
[20:37] <JustSighDudes> edbian: Wouldn't it be edian?
[20:37] <ParkerR> edbian, very cool :)
[20:37] <edbian> JustSighDudes: NO
[20:38] <edbian> ParkerR: thanks :)
[20:38] <ObrienDave> JustSighDudes: enclose in quotes
[20:38] <JimXL> al_nz1: I assume you know vi, otherwise use gedit or kate or whatver you're familiar with.
[20:38] <ParkerR> edbian, a creative nick for once :D
[20:38] <al_nz1> JimXL: yeah. I use nano
[20:38] <al_nz1> but what I want to do is write a logfile to /root
[20:38] <th0r> edbian: a little dyslexia hurt never anyone
[20:38] <edbian> ParkerR: I started with the nick 'Guest 82749'  but people always were taking it
[20:38] <edbian> th0r: :)
[20:38] <ParkerR> Hehe
[20:39] <JustSighDudes> edbian: What about reinstalling the system with the SSD arrives but only formatting /boot while maintaing the other mount points?
[20:39] <al_nz1> I can run the program that creates the logfile as root, so i have user user_program to call it
[20:39] <JimXL> al_nz1: by what user?
[20:39] <Mandrake> next week a whole new release of Mandrake Linux will be available
[20:39] <joki> Can someone help me get cairo-lua to work?
[20:39] <edbian> JustSighDudes: Well the installer would insist on / and it would write stuff into / like crazy.  Formatting or not.
[20:39] <MysteriousMan> Question: hi any one know gtkmm here?
[20:40] <edbian> JustSighDudes: Why do you want a separate /boot anyway?
[20:40] <JimXL> al_nz1: it'll look something like this root:x:0:guest
[20:40] <ParkerR> Hehe found a 32mb flash drive laying around. Just put chntpw on it
[20:40] <al_nz1> JimXL: what I am getting at, is I dont want to give this user full root permissions, I just want the user to have write perms on the /root directory
[20:40] <edbian> JustSighDudes: Just install normally to the HDD you have.  When the new hdd comes.  dd everything to it (or just move grub)
[20:40] <edbian> JustSighDudes: I don't really know what the goal is
[20:40] <JustSighDudes> edbian: The other three drives are (going to be) in RAID5.
[20:41] <edbian> JustSighDudes: cool
[20:41] <JimXL> al_nz1: you're not giving it full root access just access to the root group.
[20:41] <joki> Can someone help me get cairo-lua to work?
[20:41] <JimXL> al_nz1: and unless you have group write access on things, which you shouldn't, you are safe.
[20:42] <ParkerR> Hmm there any decent distros less that 32mb? I know DSL is 50
[20:42] <MysteriousMan> tinnycore 12 mb
[20:42] <edbian> MysteriousMan: whoa
[20:42] <love4linux> everything is done with the installation... i am restarting now... fingers crossed...thanks for the help
[20:43] <joki> Can someone help me get cairo-lua to work?
[20:43] <edbian> love4linux: sure
[20:43] <MysteriousMan> http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/welcome.html tinnycore 10 mb !!!!
[20:43] <al_nz1> still get perms error when app tries to write logfile to /root/
[20:44] <jakemp> Is there some way to profile my startup to see what is taking the most time?
[20:44] <JimXL> al_nz1: When you have done that then sudo touch /root/logfile.log
[20:44] <maco> jakemp: bootchart
[20:44] <jakemp> ty
[20:44] <rhin0> anyone know how to chmod a   file to minimise access
[20:44] <TheCyph3r> how do I pm?
[20:44] <JimXL> and sudo chmod 660 /root/logfile.log
[20:44] <ParkerR> MysteriousMan, already downloaded it :P
[20:44] <ObrienDave> joki: be patient, someone will help you eventually
[20:44] <JimXL> al_nz1:  and sudo chmod 660 /root/logfile.log
[20:44] <edbian> rhin0: Minimize?  chmod 000
[20:45] <rhin0> was thinking yes thats it
[20:45] <joki> ObrienDave: Hopefully
[20:45] <al_nz1> JimXL: make logfile first?
[20:45] <JimXL> Yes
 : search for cairo in synaptic or usc
[20:46] <ObrienDave> joki: sorry don't know enuf about linux to help
[20:46] <JimXL> make the file, change the mode
[20:46] <al_nz1> cause it dont exists yet, because the perms error doesnt let it get created
 hw is it?
[20:46] <joki> MysteriousMan: i did, i have the dock ready, and what not...
[20:46] <ParkerR> MysteriousMan, no I mean I downloaded it when you first mentioned it
[20:46] <carbon357> rhin0 : man chmod
[20:46] <SATAv2> REALLY need help with the c++ libs >_<
[20:46] <rhin0> ok thanks
[20:47] <MysteriousMan> ahaa u ar so fast :)
[20:47] <al_nz1> and to make a file?
 sorry I can't help u , I hope someone could solve ur issue
[20:48] <aikInsaan> how do I get a list of packages installed on my box in xterm?
[20:48] <oCean> aikInsaan: dpkg -l
[20:49] <acicula> SATAv2: if you start winetricks you get a menu you can click through, one of the submenu's deals with installing various packages including the distributables
[20:49] <hrithmir> My computer isn't turning on any more -- it powers up but no output to monitor. Not a PSU nor Video card issue -- no obvious defects on RAM, Mobo, nor CPU, and with RAM out I get no beep message (I am as of yet unsure the mobo even has a speaker on it) Could anyone point me to what the problem may be?
[20:49] <SATAv2> vcrun2003/05/08/10 don't work
[20:49] <MysteriousMan> Question: hi any one know gtkmm here?
[20:49] <acicula> you can also install it directly from the commandline, try winetricks help or winetricks --help
[20:49] <aikInsaan> oCean, is it possible to get rid of unused softwares easily?
[20:50] <Jordan_U> hrithmir: Can you boot a liveCD?
[20:50] <acicula> SATAv2: ok so you did install those packages already?
[20:50] <SATAv2> yes
[20:50] <hrithmir> Jordan_U: There's no display, I can't even Post
[20:50] <oCean> aikInsaan: in the software manager you can remove the software you don't need
[20:50] <Jordan_U> hrithmir: Try asking in ##hardware then.
[20:50] <hrithmir> Jordan_U: Will do, thanks
[20:51] <samanathon> Hi! This is my first IRC chat session and I'm not sure if it's appropriate to post really long questions....
[20:51] <Jordan_U> hrithmir: You're welcome.
[20:51] <acicula> SATAv2: why do you think you need them ?, did you check the winehq site for your program? what program are you trying to run
[20:51] <oCean> aikInsaan: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[20:51] <TheCyph3r>  /join #youranonnews
[20:51] <TheCyph3r> hmmm
[20:51] <JustSighDudes> samanathon: That's better than posting many short questions.
[20:51] <ObrienDave> hrithmir: It's not an HP laptop with Nvidia graphics is it?
[20:51] <SATAv2> im trying to run a math program it scored platinum but, It needs c++ runtime libs
[20:51] <aikInsaan> thanks oCean
[20:52] <oCean> samanathon: if you have lenghty pastes, you should use paste.ubuntu.com
 install g++ compiler
[20:52] <samanathon> JustSighDudes, could I post a link to a place I've asked the questoin before? redd.it/iw52p
[20:52] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, that's not a channel.:)
[20:52] <SATAv2> it needs run inside wine and I can't compile anything cause im not a programmer :(
[20:52] <hrithmir> ObrienDave: It's a custom built PC with onboard ATI and a 9800GT card
[20:52] <acicula> MysteriousMan:  he is trying to run a windows program and was trying to install windows C++ redistrutables
[20:53] <SATAv2> but none of them work
[20:53] <acicula> SATAv2: do you get any error
[20:53] <SATAv2> yes the program gives an error
[20:53] <ObrienDave> hrithmir: check to see if a card came loose. I've had that problem before
[20:53] <TheCyph3r> nit-wit: yeahhh, im still trying to figure out IRC :-\
[20:53] <SATAv2> runtime error microsoft visual c++ runtime library
[20:54] <JustSighDudes> samanathon: If I had to guess, it's probably the way ln works. But I'm not sure. Try #linux or /r/linux
[20:54] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, can you bring up a freenode channel list?
[20:54] <hrithmir> ObrienDave: That's not it. I stated that it it clearly not a card issue
[20:54] <MysteriousMan> ahaa dont use the last wine cuz it was given me error 2
[20:54] <ObrienDave> ok fine
[20:54] <SATAv2> how do i downgrade then?
[20:54] <SATAv2> and what version do i want?
[20:55] <TheCyph3r> nit-wit: im sure I can, just looking up the command
[20:55] <samanathon> JustSignDudes: Thanks!
[20:55] <oCean> samanathon: when you created the link without full path. what does ls -al test show?
[20:55] <JimXL> al_nz1: did that work?
[20:56] <SATAv2> MysteriousMan What version do I want to downgrade to and how do i downgrade?
[20:56] <al_nz1> JimXL: nah, file is there
[20:56] <acicula> SATAv2: idk then, try removing the .wine directory in your home directory and try installing your math program again?
[20:56] <truepurple> when I search for a file, does it search hidden directories too?
[20:56] <al_nz1> but still cant write to it
[20:56] <SATAv2> how would that help o.O
[20:57] <MysteriousMan> the last wine version is 1.3.24   I guess ,, try any one between  1.3.1-1.3.23
[20:57] <acicula> gets rid of any previous settings you might have
[20:57] <samanathon> oCean: lrwxrwxrwx 1 saman saman 11 2011-07-21 14:56 test -> Project 1-5
[20:57] <JimXL> show me ls -ld /root and ls -l /root/logfile.log
[20:57] <al_nz1> its -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2011-07-22 08:48 logfile
[20:57] <SATAv2> its a fresh install ive installed it over 5 times
[20:57] <JimXL> You didn't do the chmod step
[20:57] <MysteriousMan> see u :)
[20:57] <oCean> samanathon: it seems correct, and should work. When does it fail?
[20:57] <MysteriousMan> it is sleep time :)
[20:57] <acicula> SATAv2: then idk how to fix your math program, maybe people in #winehq can help you
[20:57] <JimXL> sudo chmod 660 /root/logfile.log
[20:58] <SATAv2> meh ok
[20:58] <samanathon> oCean: once I double click the symbolic linl
[20:58] <JimXL> al_nz1: and if you are running it from the command line, you need to relogin so you are in the root group.
[20:59] <oCean> samanathon: I really don't see why it fails :(
[21:00] <samanathon> oCean: it's not a big deal, just trying to understand things a bit more. Thanks though!
[21:00] <al_nz1> JimXL: the program is being run as user_program not root user
[21:00] <JimXL> al_nz1: to be sure type this command "groups"
[21:00] <JimXL> al_nz1: I know.
[21:00] <oCean> samanathon: Welcome. Either way should work, full path "should" not be required, so I'm confuzzled
[21:01] <JimXL> al_nz1: I'm trying to get you there.  Did you fix the chroot?
[21:01] <JimXL> chmod I mean.
[21:01] <qin> samanathon: Is it symlink to directory?
[21:01] <samanathon> oCean: No, a file
[21:02] <samanathon> Ocean: When I use the absolute path, it works correctly...
[21:02] <JimXL> al_nz1: Hello?
[21:02] <ciss> hi - if i run a ubuntu live cd to mount a logical volume, expecting to see a whole root filesystem, but all i get is a single "lost+found" folder - should i be worried then?
[21:03] <TheCyph3r> only if the "found" folder is empty :P
[21:03] <ThinkT510> ciss: sounds like a freshly formatted partition
[21:03] <JimXL> ciss maybe you mounted the wrong file system?
[21:03] <JimXL> As ThinkT510 says.
[21:04] <kv102t> So on FTp how do i list local dir?
[21:04] <JimXL> al_nz1: am I boring you?
[21:04] <AlexDevilLX> What are SDA SDA1 SDB?
[21:04] <JimXL> kv102t I think ldir
[21:04] <JimXL> It's been a while
[21:05] <kv102t> JimXL, nope ...
[21:05] <JimXL> It used to work.
[21:05] <kv102t> lcd shows folder but not whats inside folder
[21:05] <ThinkT510> AlexDevilLX: sda is your first harddisk, sda1 is the first partition on the first disk, sdb is the second harddisk etc
[21:05] <AlexDevilLX> Aaah
[21:06] <AlexDevilLX> And Who decides wahts myt first disk?
[21:06] <ObrienDave> partition table
[21:06] <JimXL> kv102t try !ls
[21:06] <kuix> hi :) totem with jack? O.o
[21:06] <AlexDevilLX> how to get whats my sda sdb?
[21:06] <kuix> is possible=?
[21:07] <ThinkT510> AlexDevilLX: fdisk -l will list all disks and partitions
[21:07] <kv102t> JimXL: WAY !!! well done.  They like to make it easy !
[21:07] <kv102t> thanks
[21:07] <JimXL> You can run most any command that way but !cd doesn't do what you think it does.
[21:07] <AlexDevilLX> ThinkT510: Dont work?q
[21:08] <magn3ts> Um.... where id XAR go?
[21:08] <ThinkT510> AlexDevilLX: sorry, that should be sudo fdisk -l
[21:08] <JimXL> Or I should say !cd <dir>
[21:08] <qin> AlexDevilLX: sudo fdisk -l
[21:08] <oCean> samanathon: ok, I overlooked the subdirectory "Scripts" at first, so not using the abolute path results in a broken link. in the ~/Desktop directory, since the link does not point to ~/Desktop/Scripts/Project 1-5 but to ~/Desktop/Project 1-5, which does not exist.
[21:09] <oCean> ah :(
[21:09] <rosymagne> ciao
[21:09] <AlexDevilLX> ok
[21:09] <AlexDevilLX> /dev/sdc2          Linux
[21:10] <Mandrake> astalavista
[21:10] <kuix> italiani? :)
[21:10] <carbon357> ThinkT510 :  would your name be based on the laptop your using for linux ?
[21:10] <ThinkT510> !it | kuix
[21:10] <ThinkT510> carbon357: indeed
[21:11] <kuix> totem on jack? help me! :)
[21:11] <markamber> kuix, use the pulseaudio source and sink
[21:11] <carbon357> thinkt510 : right on.  Just wanted to say I have the t410.  Love it!   just awesome.
[21:11] <markamber> kuix, there are a few good guides on how to set it up
[21:11] <kuix> markamber, have a link for me ?:) tnx ;)
[21:12] <markamber> kuix, looking right now for the one I used
[21:12] <carbon357> thinkpadt510 : how's your experience with the 15 incher
[21:13] <ThinkT510> carbon357: thinkpads have always been brilliant for me
[21:13] <ThinkT510> carbon357: the 1366x768 took a bit of getting used to though
[21:13] <ciss> ThinkT510: it *is* (now) a freshly formatted partition. i shouldn't have just assumed that mke2fs is similar to fsck because i found it in that context ...
[21:13] <ciss> just glad it's a vm
[21:13] <ciss> with backups
[21:14] <rebeca_> ll
[21:15] <ThinkT510> ciss: good thing it was a vm, its always best to experiment incase you make mistakes (i know i've made some mistakes)
[21:15] <kuix> i need connect totem with jack...:(
[21:15] <markamber> kuix, still looking, just a few more mins
[21:15] <markamber> kuix, it is in my history somewhere
[21:15] <love4linux> hello people....everything went fine with the new ubuntu  installation thanks to you..
[21:16] <ThinkT510> !yay | love4linux
[21:16] <love4linux> : ) i am amazed so far by Ubuntu
[21:16] <carbon357> thinkt510:  cool.  yeah i opted for the 1440x900  not bad but the viewing angle is my only qualm.   I might look at the x220 next  ;)
[21:16] <love4linux> the desktop, its robustness (was known before I installed Ubuntu)
[21:17] <ThinkT510> carbon357: this t510 will last me quite a few years, i'm still regularly using my t40
[21:17] <love4linux> so, where can I find help and provide help? like forums
[21:17] <markamber> kuix, first install pulseaudio-module-jack
[21:17] <markamber> kuix, I remember that part
[21:17] <love4linux> or any quick tutorials for configuring my ubuntu?
[21:17] <carbon357> thinkt510 :  right on.  is it the i7 ?
[21:17] <ThinkT510> !manual | love4linux
[21:17] <kuix> markamber, tnx ok:)
[21:17] <drhawks685> hey guys, my mouse moves really glitchily across the screen and it happens with all mice i try. current mouse is razer deathadder. im running latest ubuntu
[21:18] <ThinkT510> carbon357: mines an i5 but i made sure to get nvidia graphics
[21:18] <love4linux> thank you..checking it now
[21:18] <kuix> markamber, ok pulseaudio-module-jack installated ;)
[21:18] <kuix> now?
[21:18] <markamber> kuix, now make sure pactl is installed by running it
[21:18] <Shambat> I need some help with remotely connecting to a Ubuntu server to use it as a proxy so I can reach a webserver that has a very strict firewall. I am doing this from a Windows machine, can someone help me with this?
[21:19] <markamber> Shambat, putty
[21:19] <markamber> Shambat, on the ubuntu sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:19] <JimXL> love4linux the ubuntu forums are great source too
[21:20] <carbon357> thinkt510 :  me too ;) but with the i7. Can't believe i took as long as i did to put ubuntu on this one.  never turning back.   It was so seemless other then the brighness controls
[21:20] <markamber> Shambat, then forward the port 22 to your ubuntu, better make ubuntu a static ip
[21:20] <love4linux> whats the link for that? oh nevermind i ll search for it
[21:20] <JimXL> google is your friend
[21:21] <ThinkT510> carbon357: yeah i noticed the brightness controls don't work too, maybe its an nvidia driver issue
[21:21] <love4linux> : ) the CEO of google is not
[21:21] <markamber> Shambat, then get a dyndns or no-ip to point to it, then use putty to tunnel into the machine and use the internet, there are multiple ways to do it once you get that far
[21:21] <markamber> Shambat, or you could set up a proxy, but some firewalls can smell proxys
[21:21] <splnet_work> How do install a 32 bit version of a library? for instance libz64 and libz32
[21:22] <drhawks685> is there any specific drivers you need to set up a mouse?
[21:22] <Shambat> markamber: yeah I have found some tutorials on this, but none of them work :(   Do I need to make a tunnel on the putty connection what ports should I tunnel through if I want to access a https site?
[21:22] <kuix> markamber, in my jack configuration non appared link for conect totem to output :(
[21:22] <drhawks685> razer deathadder and it doesnt work properly
[21:22] <love4linux> okay.. one thing that seems strange to me... why I wasn't asked for setting a root password?
[21:22] <markamber> kuix, there is still a command you have to run
[21:22] <markamber> kuix, I just wanted you to see if pactl was installed
[21:22] <silvio> viva la topa sempre
[21:23] <ThinkT510> !root | love4linux
[21:23] <hennie_> any one know how to enable a 2nd monitor, the monitor doesnt show a 2nd monitor
[21:23] <markamber> Shambat, let me try it right at my house and see exactly what steps you should take
[21:23] <Shambat> markamber: nice, thank you
[21:23] <kuix> markamber, yes the pactl is installated
[21:23] <carbon357> thinkt510: you can try putting this "      Option "RegistryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1"          "   in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:24] <carbon357> think510:  it's still a little flaky sometimes though.
[21:24] <markamber> kuix, pactl load-module module-jack-sink
[21:24] <markamber> kuix, pactl load-module module-jack-source
[21:24] <love4linux> ThinkT510: what's with the !root?
[21:24] <markamber> kuix, and there might be something else you have to do before you get it to work like reboot
[21:25] <markamber> kuix, and if it was not obvious, jack must be running
[21:25] <ThinkT510> love4linux: you asked about not being asked to set the root password, that explains why
[21:25] <love4linux> ubottu: its just that I am not used to this configurations, yet
[21:26] <samanathon> << /msg samanathon
[21:26] <samanathon> << /msg samanathon UrajaH78DadvarU samanathon@gmail.com
[21:26] <love4linux> ThinkT510: well, I am thinking, in Fedora you set up your sudo file and it has limited root capabilities.. and when you need full root capabilities you just log in as root via su
[21:27] <ThinkT510> carbon357: i guess you put that under the device section that specifies the nvidia driver?
[21:27] <carbon357> yeah  sorry
[21:27] <carbon357> :)
[21:27] <carbon357> thank goodness for windows computers.  otherwise i might not have enough work to do.
[21:28] <ThinkT510> carbon357: thanks for the tip :)
[21:28] <markamber> Shambat, K i got it now
[21:28] <Shambat> markamber: cool
[21:29] <carbon357> thinkt510:  most welcome
[21:29] <markamber> Shambat, first go to the windows computer and install putty
[21:29] <Shambat> markamber: done :)
[21:29] <markamber> Shambat, k
[21:31] <carbon357> does anyone have linux+ cert   was it a challenge.  How much debian/ubuntu is covered in it or is it mostly redhat ??
[21:31] <markamber> Shambat, do you know how to launch putty.exe from comandline
[21:32] <Shambat> markamber: yeah
[21:33] <ciss> can it happen that grub freezes without throwing any errors?
[21:33] <markamber> Shambat, now run putty.exe -D 9999 user@machine.whatever.com
[21:33] <Shambat> markamber: what is machine.whatever.com? the ubuntu server IP?
[21:33] <sn0wf0x> someone want to help me with a batch script?
[21:34] <markamber> Shambat, yep
[21:34] <markamber> Shambat, more precicely the one you are connecting to
[21:34] <Shambat> markamber: ok done, and logged in
[21:35] <markamber> Shambat, then you will need to go into your browser (firefox maybe, chrome I do not know, although chrome is my favorite) and setup a socks proxy for localhost at port 9999
[21:36] <snyder> I am running a system with Xubuntu 10.04 lucid and need to create a partition in order to install windows7 ultimate but I don't know how. Any help?
[21:36] <Shambat> markamber: ok I have Foxyproxy installed so I'll just use that
[21:36] <markamber> Shambat, just remmeber the proxy is a socks, and the server is localhost and the port is 9999, the same port you typed in earlier
[21:37] <snyder> xubuntu is the only os on my computer
[21:37] <ciss> how can i verify, that grub is correctly installed into the mbr?
[21:37] <markamber> snyder, you need a boot cd to resize the partition
[21:38] <ThinkT510> snyder: you would need to boot into a livecd and resize your partition to make room for a windows partition
[21:38] <markamber> snyder, I recomend parted magic
[21:38] <love4linux> have a goodnight people... thanks everyone for your help...I will be coming back with more questions soon : ) byes
[21:39] <snyder> i can get that thru ubuntu software center?
[21:39] <markamber> snyder, no, you will need to download that
[21:39] <markamber> snyder, http://partedmagic.com/download.html
[21:40] <markamber> snyder, after you install windows, you will need to restore the ubuntu boot
[21:40] <Shambat> markamber: yaaay that worked!
[21:40] <Shambat> markamber: thank you so much
[21:40] <Shambat> markamber++
[21:40] <markamber> Shambat, good to here, that works on linux too, just using ssh instead of putty
[21:40] <Shambat> ok
[21:41] <markamber> Shambat, so ssh -D 9999 weij@oiwfheow
[21:41] <snyder> I installed xubunutu via flashdrive, how do i get a boot cd?
[21:41] <Shambat> markamber: yeah
[21:41] <markamber> snyder, I would recomend installing grub to the partition of your hard drive ubuntu is installed on before resizing, and also download and burn Super Grub Disk 2
[21:42] <markamber> snyder, supergrubdisk.org
[21:42] <markamber> snyder, that SGD will restore boot to your ubuntu so you can dual boot again
[21:43] <markamber> snyder, and I there is a windows program that allows you to use ubuntu files called ext2explore or something, I dont know, it was on omgubuntu.co.uk not long ago
[21:43] <XuMuK>  
[21:44] <snyder> I currently do not have windows, only lucid
[21:44] <markamber> snyder, yep, I am just saying after you install windows you might want to be able to access your files
[21:45] <iDRINKbLEACH> Hello, Ubuntu sees wireless card when I do "sudo lshw -C network" but I can't connect to wireless>
[21:45] <snyder> oh... i have almost nothing on here. it's a mini pc for the entertainment center
[21:46] <markamber> snyder, and make sure to download any network drivers before installing windows if your computer did not come with it, because windows does not recognise hardware as well as linux, so you will not be able to tell what driver you need, it wil just be like pcix09384 instead of relatek r8101
[21:46] <Numn> is are they any who knows how i save a log of pm?
[21:46] <Numn> in irssi
[21:46] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, first off, that is unhealthy, and second, what wireless card do you have
[21:46] <markamber> Numn, copy and paste (sorry just had to say it)
[21:47] <iDRINKbLEACH> arr5513 802.11abg Wireless NIC
[21:47] <Numn> haha.. isnt so easy in the terminal.. and i lot of stuff i want to copy and paste then :)
[21:47] <con-man> hey alt+F2 isn't bringing up the run box.  Wat do?
[21:47] <markamber> Numn, just select use ctrl-shift-c instead of crtrl-c
[21:48] <markamber> Numn, but I assume that copy and paste was not the solution you were looking for
[21:48] <markamber> Numn, I honestly dont know, sorry for giving you any false hope, I use xchat, not cool enough for irssi
[21:49] <Numn> i google for information for that too..
[21:49] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, hmm, that should be supported
[21:49] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber, I must warn you, I am using Ubuntu for the very first time.  I am using a laptop with wireless next to the desktop that has Ubunt and cannot access internet
[21:49] <ciss> how can i debug an issue where an ubuntu server 10.04 guest (vbox) freezes immediately after startup without any errors?
[21:50] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, use pastebin to show me what you get when you run ifconfig -a
[21:52] <markamber> !wifi | iDRINKbLEACH
[21:52] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber pastebin?? I am using two different computers. I executed command, if you have a specific question I could type in response
[21:52] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, oh duh, you have no internet at the laptop
[21:53] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, what about plugging the ethernet into the laptop, it will be easier to fix
[21:53] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, oh and pastebin is that thing in the channel topic (pastes to http://goo.gl/ixcN9)
[21:53] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber have internet access on laptop, desktop with Ubuntu no wifi.
[21:54] <DeviceZer0> anyone else use shotwell? it seems to have gotten slower and slower the mroe i use it.
[21:54] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, you are trying to use wifi on the desktop then...
[21:54] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber yes
[21:54] <markamber> DeviceZer0, I am not a fan, it is quite slow
[21:54] <DeviceZer0> currently its been 15 mins and its still importing pics
[21:55] <DeviceZer0> markamber, ha. yea. my problem...i like the looks of it...but its too damn slow. any suggestions on what to use instead?
[21:55] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber how do I type your name so tht it highlights red for you?
[21:55] <DeviceZer0> iDRINKbLEACH, u prob just did
[21:55] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, like that
[21:55] <DeviceZer0> most clients will auto highlite your own nick
[21:55] <[THC]AcidRain> join #droid
[21:55] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber great, it does show red on my screen.
[21:55] <PatrickC> wubi won't work in winxp?
[21:55] <goodtime> ctrl k iDRINKbLEACH
[21:56] <PatrickC> it booted straight to windows
[21:56] <DeviceZer0> markamber, does shotwell use the same libs and stuff as other photo managers? would something like fspot be faster?
[21:56] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber !wifi "bash: !wifi: event not found"
[21:56] <markamber> DeviceZer0, I honestly dont know, I use one called bibble, but it was $50, there is also one called darkroom or something, and it is good
[21:56] <DeviceZer0> markamber, hmm for linux?
[21:56] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, that was a command for the ubuntu bot, sorry to confuse you
[21:57] <markamber> DeviceZer0, not the adobe one
[21:57] <DeviceZer0> ok
[21:57] <DeviceZer0> thanks
[21:57] <DeviceZer0> !photo
[21:57] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber okay, i opened the link that it gave.
[21:57] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, see if it has some good info
[21:58] <markamber> DeviceZer0, darktable
[21:58] <markamber> DeviceZer0, that was what it was called
[21:58] <markamber> DeviceZer0, that is free and open source
[21:58] <DeviceZer0> markamber, ok. thanks a bunch. im just hoping that they are not all using the same libs or w/e to do the importing...
[21:58] <PatrickC> wubi didn't install bootloader in xp
[21:59] <markamber> DeviceZer0, use rapid downloader
[21:59] <markamber> DeviceZer0, it imports better
[21:59] <agliodbs> hey, I'm trying to install PostgreSQL 9.1b3 using Martin's PPA here: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
[21:59] <DeviceZer0> hmm. rapid downloader....
[21:59] <DeviceZer0> for downloading files? or...am i misunderstanding what that does by its name?
[21:59] <PatrickC> anyone?
[21:59] <markamber> DeviceZer0,  http://damonlynch.net/rapid/
[21:59] <agliodbs> I've added the repo and apt-get updated, but for some reason I can't see or install any of the 9.1 beta packages
[21:59] <markamber> DeviceZer0, it is in the ubuntu repositorys if I am not mistaken
[22:00] <PatrickC> wubi didn't install the correct bootloader for windows xp
[22:00] <DeviceZer0> markamber, ok cool. ill check these out in a few mins. thanks again :)
[22:01] <markamber> DeviceZer0, no problem, I would for sure look at dark table, and also just managing photos in directorys is not that bad either
[22:01] <PatrickC> anyone?
[22:03] <Lew> I just installed xubuntu 11.04 for first time, it said I have updates to install in package manager but when I go apply it says package operation failed
[22:04] <tru3fate> can i have adobe and java on ubuntu
[22:06] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber how do I add the driver to Ubuntu? The wireless works fine in Windows.
[22:06] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, unfortunatly it is rarely that simple
[22:06] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, actually, it usually just works
[22:07] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, can you give me the exact line from lspci of your card, it may be a wierd revision or something that is not supported
[22:07] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, lspci is a command
[22:07] <StevenR> hi. When I resume from "hibernate", I get display corruption. This seems to happen more and more, and only since I upgraded to natty. How do I stop it happening? ... Or at least trace the cause better. I tried turning off effects, but it made no difference
[22:07] <markamber> StevenR, I have ubuntu installed on all my computers and none of them can hibernate
[22:08] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber that was the last command I executed, what line do you me to type?
[22:08] <markamber> StevenR, some the sound is off when I turn it back on, some do what you describe, I am not saying it is totally broken, I am just saying I would move on if I were you, but there is nothing wrong with trying
[22:09] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, the one that has something about wireless in it
[22:09] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, usually you would use the pastebin for this sort of thing, but since you do not have internet that is a bit of a problem
[22:09] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber "04:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5513 802.11abg Wireless NIC (rev 01)"
[22:11] <spacetiger> I am unable to locate my .xdefaults file. I'm using natty ubuntu.
[22:11] <qin> spacetiger: ~/.Xdefaults ?
[22:11] <TheCyph3r> If I have a question about how games are installed in Ubuntu, is this the right place?
[22:12] <spacetiger> Sorry, yes that.
[22:12] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  sure
[22:12] <TheCyph3r> coz_:Im trying to update AssaultCube. I already downloaded the tarball, and now im trying to find the directory for the old version
[22:13] <TheCyph3r> Problem is, I dont know where games install to by default
[22:13] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  ok  how did you install it the first time
[22:13] <qin> spacetiger: Not sure if gnome make use of that file, but it should be in /home/$USER
[22:13] <coz_> TheCyph3r, its most likely /usr/local  or   /usr/share
[22:13] <JasFasolka> Accidently removed Evolution ... desktop got cleared (no gnome or whatsover). Managed to install it again but I'm missing Evolution calendar ... how to get it again?
[22:13] <zykotick9> Setting the timeout after entering sudo password is discussed in this article http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/how-to-change-sudo-password-time-out-in.html will this apply to both console and GUI (gksudo'ed) programs?  Or just the cli "sudo"?
[22:13] <TheCyph3r> coz_:From the software center
[22:13] <spacetiger> @qin Don't see it there.
[22:13] <s7r> is there any time-limit by default in ssh sessions for ubuntu? if an user logs in via ssh and does not type anything for some time... it gets disconnected or what ?
[22:14] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  I see , and is this update not available via the software center or synaptic?
[22:14] <s7r> what is the default setting
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[22:14] <TheCyph3r> wow....someone get rid of this guy
[22:14] <qin> spacetiger: Why do you need it?
[22:15] <spacetiger> @qin Issue is tgif by default uses some particular font which I don't have. Trying to override that.
[22:15] <TheCyph3r> No, the update is not avaiable in Software Center
[22:15] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  ok check under /usr/share  for your game
[22:15] <s7r> is there any time-limit by default in ssh sessions for ubuntu? if an user logs in via ssh and does not type anything for some time... it gets disconnected or what ?
[22:15] <qin> spacetiger: Then make your own .Xdefaults with options you need.
[22:16] <TheCyph3r> coz_: No, not in the share
[22:16] <qin> s7r: No, unless connection is broken.
[22:16] <zykotick9> s7r, "IdleTimeout time" is an sshd variable, not sure what it's set to by default.
[22:16] <TheCyph3r> coz_:However, there IS a games folder in the /usr folder, but the only thing regarding the game in there is the shell script
[22:17] <spacetiger> @qin So google tells me I need .Xsessions too to run .Xdefaults. I don't have a .xsessions either
[22:17] <JasFasolka> Accidently removed Evolution ... desktop got cleared (no gnome or whatsover). Managed to install it again but I curious - could it delete some system files also? Or just a gnome/desktop stuff? So far it all works good but u neva know ...
[22:17] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  well it has to be on the system if it is running,, see if the executable in under /usr/share/applications
[22:17] <spacetiger> @qin .xsession*
[22:18] <s7r> thanks
[22:18] <s7r> qin so theres no time limit
[22:18] <TheCyph3r> coz_:Will it be a single file, or a whole folder? because this tarball obviously has to be extracted somewhere as a full file
[22:18] <s7r> after a user gets connected if the connection between hosts is good.. it stays up no matter the user does not do anything . type anything
[22:18] <qin> spacetiger: .Xdefaults is configuration file for some applications.
[22:18] <Foxx> Would any of you know why my wireless would say "device not managed"? I already changed etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  file to Managed=True
[22:18] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  it should be a .desktop file   assaultcube.desktop
[22:19] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  are you on unity or classic?
[22:19] <qin> s7r: ssh -v (for more info why it disconnects)
[22:19] <TheCyph3r> classic
[22:19] <TheCyph3r> 10.04
[22:19] <TheCyph3r> coz_: and yes, there is a .desktop file
[22:19] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  ok good,, go under the Places menu and click  "Search for files"
[22:19] <TheCyph3r> oaky
[22:20] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  in the first field use the pull down and choose filesystem
[22:20] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   then type in   assaultcube  and see where the locations are
[22:20] <TheCyph3r> coz_: alright, quite a few places
[22:20] <qin> s7r: Also look into: server - /etc/ssh/sshd_config, client /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[22:21] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   ok they should mainly be located under /usr/share ...yes
[22:21] <spacetiger> @qin Ok.. but to load it, I need to have "xrdb -load $HOME/.Xdefaults"   in .xsession file (according to  a thread in linuxforums)
[22:21] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber my desktop has amd 64bit chip, I installed Ubuntu 64bit, should I have installed 32 bit version???
[22:21] <TheCyph3r> coz_:yes
[22:21] <markamber> iDRINKbLEACH, shouldnt have mattered
[22:21] <blindingdawn> I'm trying to install Parallels tools in a VM Using Ubuntu and I get the error "An error occurred when downloading the required components for parallels Tools installation. Kernel sources" Install these components and try again.
[22:21]  * markamber has to get some work done now
[22:22] <iDRINKbLEACH> markamber thanks!
[22:22] <qin> spacetiger: Once more, what program setting do you want to change?
[22:22] <Foxx> Would any of you know why my wireless would say "device not managed"? I already changed etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  file to Managed=True
[22:22] <neonkidxy> Hey I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my computer
[22:23] <TheCyph3r> coz_: so should I just delete anything that's assaultcube, and extract tarball to /usr/share/applications?
[22:23] <spacetiger> @qin I want to use a drawing software TGIF. I don't have its default font, so I'm trying to override its default seeting
[22:23] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  ok you  are looking,,after that search in the results... probably  assault cube located in /usr/share  that should be the main install directory
[22:23] <qin> spacetiger: Moment.
[22:23] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  you want want to install in /usr   do you have a link for the  update  so I can take a look at it
[22:25] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  ubuntu 11.04 here running on a t420.  i can't hear audio right now; and its an intermittant issue cuz if i rebooted the laptop; it would work fine
[22:25] <arooni-mobile> any iddeas on how to fix
[22:25] <coz_> TheCyph3r, are you updating the version yes?
[22:26] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  I am downloading the asaultcube v 1.1.0.4 right now hold on
[22:26] <nkd> Can anyone help me out? I want to use rakarrack and it requires the use of jack, but jack is not working. It's worked with a bit of tweaking before but I can't remember how it's done (something to do with adding an audio group and changing some settings)
[22:27] <TheCyph3r> coz_:trying right now
[22:27] <coz_> nkd,  under Sound and video look for  QjackCtl
[22:27] <coz_> nkd,   open that  click "Start"
[22:28] <Samo502> hey guys, quick question about partitioning
[22:28] <nkd> coz_ done that
[22:28] <phellarv> Anyone care to help. Seems like I made a mess out of python: http://pastebin.com/CtK2hz37
[22:28] <coz_> nkd,   if you clicked "Start" when that opened it should start up
[22:28] <phellarv> Apt and python is not playing with eachother anymore....
[22:29] <Samo502> i have windows and ubuntu dual booted, can i just move the windows partition over to ubuntu by deleting the windows one and resizing the ubuntu one?
[22:29] <Samo502> or is there more i'll need to do?
[22:29] <nkd> it started up automatically then an error message came up
[22:29] <coz_> nkd,  what was the error?
[22:29] <DangerOnTheRangr> Samo502: You should probably back up your Windows data and programs first
[22:29] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: i have the user file stuff in ubuntu, if that's what you're referring to
[22:30] <nkd> coz_ could not connect to jack server as client. overall operation failed
[22:30] <goodtime> i got a linux question.how do i get world of warcraft to work in wine
[22:30] <DangerOnTheRangr> Samo502: So you've backed up all the data on your Windows partition?
[22:31] <coz_> nkd,  ok  go to the #jack channel , they will probably have more insight into this than I do
[22:31] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: i don't have anything to back it up to
[22:31] <Samo502> and since this is a netbook, a disk isn't an option
[22:31] <nkd> coz_ thanks
[22:31] <TheCyph3r> coz_: trying to extract it over there
[22:32] <TheCyph3r> coz_: it's telling me i dont have the permissions
[22:32] <DangerOnTheRangr> Samo502: You better check to make sure you don't have anything important on your Windows partition, because if you remove it (the partition), all that stuff is gone forever
[22:32] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  what command did you use before getting the no permission s?
[22:32] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: being that i've already backed up documents/imagse/etc to ubuntu, there's nothing else
[22:32] <coz_> TheCyph3r,
[22:33] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: I'm doing this on someone else's  computer who basically only used it for Word and other schoolwork, which ubuntu is capable of
[22:33] <mang0|OUT> Night all.
[22:33] <goodtime> i got a linux question.how do i get world of warcraft to work in wine
[22:33] <spacetiger> @qin afk for food. do let me know about any success.
[22:33] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   are you just trying to move files over  to /usr
[22:33] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: but her windows partition is so infested with viruses ubuntu is the best option
[22:33] <TheCyph3r> coz_: I just tried to click and drag to the /usr/share/games folder for extraction
[22:33] <DangerOnTheRangr> Samo502: Then all you have to do is remove the Windows partition, and then resize the Ubuntu one
[22:33] <TheCyph3r> coz_: I'm still too used to windows
[22:33] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  I dont think that will work
[22:33] <Samo502> DangerOnTheRangr: ah, thanks
[22:34] <DangerOnTheRangr> Samo502: Make sure you have that person's permission first! :)
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  ubuntu 11.04 here running on a t420.  i can't hear audio right now; and its an intermittant issue cuz if i rebooted the laptop; it would work fine
[22:34] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   in that file if you open it yhou should see and   assaultcube.sh  file
[22:35] <TheCyph3r> coz_: yup, I see it
[22:35] <nit-wit> Samo502, your sdefinition of dualbooting is not wubi we assume.
[22:35] <phellarv> Anyone care to help? Seems like I made a mess out of python: http://pastebin.com/CtK2hz37
[22:35] <kajakajo> Jim
[22:35] <phellarv> Apt and python is not playing with eachother anymore....
[22:36] <W43372> How do I  make sure that previously deleted files are unrecoverable without having to completely wipe my hard drive?
[22:36] <kajakajo> JimXL, or others: no eth card identified, only wifi on my Acer Aspire One D255 10.1" netbook. Any idea what to try? Have updated the system fully, running 10.04. :\
[22:37] <TheCyph3r> w43372: find a shredding program
[22:37] <W43372> TheCyph3r: Such as?
[22:38] <TheCyph3r> W43372: I dont know any myself, but I'm sure that if look up whatever Backtrack uses, there's probably a good one
[22:38] <W43372> TheCyph3r: Backtrack?
[22:38] <TheCyph3r> W43372: It's a linux pen-test distro
[22:39] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   sorry had to restart x
[22:39] <coz_> TheCyph3r,   that file you downloaded from assaultcube homepage is a stand alone ,, no need to install it
[22:40] <TheCyph3r> Okay, so how do I set up in such a way that opening assaultcube through "Applications > Games" opens the new, rather than the old?
[22:41] <W43372> TheCyph3r: And aside from that what else can I do to keep my machines secure?
[22:41] <TheCyph3r> W43372: Im still very new to Linux, so I dont have many answers for anything :-/
[22:41] <coz_> TheCyph3r,  you would have to created a menu shortcut in alacarte menu editor  using that downloaded file and the assaultcube.sh file as the executable,, I believe it will work
[22:41] <coz_> I have to break sorry
[22:41] <W43372> How do I  make sure that previously deleted files are unrecoverable without having to completely wipe my hard drive?
[22:42] <th0r> W43372: use wipe to erase the files
[22:42] <W43372> th0r: how do I do that?
[22:42] <TheCyph3r> coz_: Okay, well i just ran a command in terminal to move the tarball from the /tmp folder to the game folder
[22:43] <th0r> W43372: use synaptic to install wipe, then open a terminal and type 'man wipe'
[22:43] <W43372> th0r, and that will make deleted files completely unrecoverable?
[22:43] <th0r> W43372: read the man page regarding that
[22:45] <DreadKnight> what's this type of weapon called? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lYf6lKxIEdQ/TcqbPioxfNI/AAAAAAAAAPE/ArQNSGW6KZ4/s1600/DHF_48_Soraka.jpg
[22:45] <W43372> th0r, where can I find this man page?
[22:45] <th0r> W43372: like I said before, open a terminal and type 'man wipe'
[22:46] <qin> spacetiger: Sorry so late: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/tgif4-howto/message/116
[22:46] <TheCyph3r> DreadKnight,  it looks like a sickle/scimitar mix.
[22:47] <DreadKnight> TheCyph3r, sickle was the word I was looking for, thanks! :)
[22:47] <qin> spacetiger: Does "xrdb -merge .Xdefaults" asks for something?
[22:47] <hamed> hi
[22:48] <Wagbo> hello
[22:48] <spacetiger> @qin checking the link now. xrdb command should go in .xsession file , right?
[22:48] <iceroot> on my laptop the wifi doesnt use full power (and so i have bad connections) when its the power-adapter is not plugged in. is this a hardware or software issue that the connection-quality is getting worse then
[22:48] <Wagbo> wha
[22:49] <qin> spacetiger: Nah, run it once, and tgif should respect settings form .Xdefauls
[22:49] <hamed> i am arabic user i can read and write with arabic but when i download some files from internet i read tho arabic letters converted to strange symbols
[22:50] <qin> hamed: man iconv, man file
[22:50] <qin> hamed: What types of files?
[22:50] <hamed> sub
[22:51] <kajakajo> no eth card identified, only wifi on my Acer Aspire One D255 10.1" netbook. Any idea what to try? Have updated the system fully, running 10.04. :\
[22:51] <W43372> What's the keyboard shortcut to open a Terminal window, I can never remember it.
[22:51] <qin> hamed: sub are text, so iconv should be ok, but check your own locale just in case.
[22:51] <qin> W43372: Alt-Ctrl-t
[22:52] <hamed> how ?
[22:52] <hamed> i am xubuntu
[22:53] <spacetiger> @qin Nope. ran xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults but tgif gives same error while starting
[22:53] <Wagbo> meow
[22:53] <spacetiger> @qin Also, the OP in that link had a tgif.Xdefaults .. I don't o.o
[22:53] <AlanKey> hi
[22:54] <Wagbo> hello
[22:54] <qin> hamed: "file <your sub file name>" to get encoding, then "iconv -l" to see desired encoding, then "iconv -f encoding [-t encoding] [inputfile]" (thats from "man iconv")
[22:55] <AlanKey> i have allways loved Linux, i have completly changed to ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop. would anyone be able to recomend so useful software for ti?
[22:55] <qin> spacetiger: Did you already created and filled ~/.Xdefaults ?
[22:55] <AlanKey> it*
[22:56] <ejo> Yes, the Ubuntu Software Center is just full of recommendations and reviews
[22:56] <qin> AlanKey: To do what?
[22:56] <ejo> and you'll find it pre-installed...
[22:56] <AlanKey> cool
[22:56] <spacetiger> @qin Yes
[22:56] <qin> spacetiger: What error?
[22:56] <AlanKey> one thing i would like is office 2010 :) i have a leget copy and wonderd if use it with wine??
[22:57] <Wagbo> yes
[22:57] <spacetiger> @qin Fatal Error in OpenFont(): Cannot open the Default(Msg)Font '-*-courier-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'.
[22:57] <Wagbo> same here
[22:57] <spacetiger> @qin http://bourbon.usc.edu:8001/tgif/faq/systems.html addressed here.
[22:57] <Wagbo> what is this "wine" you speak of?
[22:57] <AlanKey> @wagbo it is a linux compatabilty layer
[22:58] <Wagbo> @alankey oh thanks
[22:58] <Wagbo> oh and someone told me that a good operating system to use is called "backtrack"? is it any good?
[22:58] <qin> AlanKey, Wagbo: #winehq may hold answers...
[22:59] <iceroot> !backtrack | Wagbo
[22:59] <AlanKey> @wagbo yeah dont wouch that for professonals only?
[22:59] <qin> Wagbo: www.distrowatch.com
[22:59] <AlanKey> touch*
[22:59] <Monotoko> does anybody know any MSN client that would allow video chat and work in Linux?
[22:59] <Hendrik1> hi does anyone know if i can remove an old pgp key from the ubuntu keyserver
[22:59] <AlanKey> @monotoko pidgin
[22:59] <AlanKey> is a good one :)
[23:00] <Wagbo> thanks you
[23:00] <AlanKey> my bad for video chat skype is your best bet
[23:00] <Wagbo> @alankey but he wants to use msn
[23:00] <AlanKey> ohh... not too sure
[23:01] <Lew> synaptec says I have 1 broken package but when I use filter to search there isn't one
[23:01] <Wagbo> @monotoko i think g
[23:01] <Monotoko> Wagbo, g?
[23:01] <Lew> I have a broken package or dependency I dont know how to fix, I just installed this OS
[23:01] <Wagbo> @monotoko i think Google is the most powerful thing to use lol
[23:02] <Monotoko> Wagbo, I think searching "g" may not give me the best result set in th world :P
[23:02] <Wagbo> @monotoko hahah! :D
[23:03] <Hendrik1> anyone information on removin key from keyserver
[23:04] <blindingdawn> I'm trying to install Parallels tools in a VM Using Ubuntu and I get the error "An error occurred when downloading the required components for parallels Tools installation. Kernel sources" Install these components and try again.
[23:05] <Wagbo> @blindingdawn have you tryed the try again option? re download maybe?
[23:05] <radhika_> I just started using Ubuntu with Windows, and now when I download Adobe Flash, it doesn't seem to collaborate with anything. For the options when downloading the Linux version of Flash, what do you do?
[23:06] <blindingdawn> Yes.. I've tried that and it fails wagbo
[23:07] <newbie123> hi all, trying to install 11.04 on dell mini9 with built in sd flash drive (not hard drive)....one of the original dell minis.....anyway it starts booting from usb with 11.04 on it then goes into 10.04.....cannot figure out why ?  any ideas?
[23:08] <hamed> sorry for the delay i was trying iconv: conversion from `ISO-8859' is not supported
[23:08] <hamed> Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information.
[23:08] <nit-wit> newbie123, how did you load the card
[23:08] <newbie123> btw, 10.04 is already on the dell mini.....but it won't ever actually get to install 11.04 even though it begins booting from it....drops into 10.04 again
[23:09] <newbie123> made usb drive to install 11.04
[23:09] <nit-wit> newbie123, with what?
[23:09] <newbie123> worked on other machines....just not this dell mini
[23:09] <nit-wit> okay
[23:09] <newbie123> with usb creator...or whatever it is called under ubuntu
[23:09] <dualbootah> hi
[23:10] <dualbootah> i want to dual boot ubuntu
[23:10] <AlanKey> ah
[23:10] <Wagbo> ah
[23:10] <AlanKey> in what way?
[23:10] <nit-wit> newbie123, do you know the key prompt for the boot from menu outside the bios
[23:10] <dualbootah> so that i can dedicate it to playing wow on
[23:10] <dualbootah> is that a good idea?
[23:10] <AlanKey> install inside windows or on another partion
[23:10] <newbie123> yes, and i use that....and it allows me to select the usb drive
[23:10] <dli> dualbootah, just install to different partitions, you can share swap partition, or /boot /home with some care
[23:11] <AlanKey> wine might allow you to run WaW
[23:11] <dualbootah> i said WoW
[23:11] <dualbootah> not WaW
[23:11] <AlanKey> oh
[23:11] <Monotoko> I run WoW on Wine
[23:11] <dualbootah> ik wine runs it fine
[23:11] <AlanKey> cool
[23:11] <Monotoko> it's actually better than Windows
[23:11] <dualbootah> monotoko
[23:11] <AlanKey> yeah
[23:11] <dualbootah> do u dualboot?
[23:11] <AlanKey> its linux
[23:11] <Monotoko> dualbootah, yes I do
[23:11] <dualbootah> cool
[23:11] <Wagbo> If you dual-boot them, you will run everything normally in xp, and then you will also have a linux partition in which you can use Ubuntu normally as you would use Ubuntu.
[23:11] <dualbootah> i think ill do the same
[23:12] <dualbootah> but i dont wanna wipe my hd to create another area for ubuntu to be
[23:12] <ozatomic> having a problem setting up sshfs and automount/autofs. It seems that it deons't liek the '#' symbol anyone knwo anything about this or a work around?
[23:12] <AlanKey> does anyone know how u can use RDP on ubunu?
[23:12] <nit-wit> newbie123, post 2 http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/linux/586-booting-sd-card.html
[23:12] <Monotoko> AlanKey, yes use rdesktop
[23:12] <Polah> alankey: rdesktop command
[23:13] <AlanKey> can i use that to conenct to my ubuntu laptop from my desktop running Windows 7??
[23:13] <dualbootah> should i go full ubuntu?
[23:13] <AlanKey> yes
[23:13] <dualbootah> u think so?
[23:13] <AlanKey> i did on my laptop
[23:13] <dualbootah> i mean windows is cool
[23:13] <AlanKey> havent looked back :)
[23:13] <dualbootah> hrm
[23:13] <AlanKey> windows is SHIT
[23:13] <dualbootah> can wine run pretty much eveyrthing
[23:14] <dualbootah> largely known everything
[23:14] <dualbootah> lol
[23:14] <dualbootah> why is windows shit
[23:14] <FloodBot1> dualbootah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <AlanKey> its like mac
[23:14] <dualbootah> ^ agree
[23:14] <dualbootah> lol
[23:14] <Polah> Alankey: I thought you meant connecting via RDP to Windows. For Ubuntu you'd need to set up a VNC server on the machine you want to connect to.
[23:14] <AlanKey> ok thanks
[23:14] <newbie123> dont see how this relates.....nit-wit....as i am booting off usb thumb drive no sd card.......
[23:14] <dualbootah> im not a pro at using terminals if i go full ubuntu will i still be fine?
[23:14] <AlanKey> yea
[23:14] <dualbootah> just use software center because everything has a gui there
[23:15] <AlanKey> im shit with terminal too
[23:15] <dualbootah> but u manage okay?
[23:15] <LjL> !language | everyone
[23:15] <AlanKey> but im getin beter
[23:15] <dualbootah> do you NEED to be able to use the terminal?
[23:15] <dualbootah> is ubuntu faster than windows?
[23:15] <Monotoko> dualbootah, it's helpful...but we are always here
[23:15] <AlanKey> i can use basic commands
[23:15] <AlanKey> yep
[23:15] <Polah> dualbootah: It can make a lot of things quicker.
[23:15] <dualbootah> hmm i think ill wipe this comp and do it
[23:15] <dualbootah> after i back up my stuff
[23:15] <Wagbo> @dualbootah depending on what you mean "faster"?
[23:16] <dualbootah> can i use my usbs on ubuntu?>
[23:16] <nit-wit> newbie123, sorry I missread the post, my bad.;(
[23:16] <AlanKey> on my laptop its allot faster than widows was
[23:16] <dualbootah> i make youtube videos so can i just use recordmyscreen?
[23:16] <nit-wit> newbie123, not all of the usb ports on that computer will boot though I forget which ones.
[23:16] <dualbootah> and then ffmpeg to convert?
[23:16] <Wagbo> @dualbootah what do you use now?
[23:16] <dualbootah> camtasia
[23:16] <dualbootah> not supported by wine
[23:17] <AlanKey> there is an opensurced alternitave
[23:17] <newbie123> could it be that i need to use f6 options?  its like it wants to boot of usb (cause i get the screen to try or install or test mem etc.) but no matter what it ends up going back into 10.04
[23:17] <AlanKey> let me find it
[23:17] <dualbootah> so record my screen then convert using divedee?
[23:17] <newbie123> ok nit-wit i can try other usb port
[23:17] <dualbootah> ya its called gfkrecordmyscreen AlanKey
[23:17] <nit-wit> newbie123, I think thats the issue, hopefully.
[23:17] <dualbootah> my only problem is how will i be able to open and edit ms word documents on ubuntu
[23:17] <nit-wit> *that's
[23:17] <dualbootah> if i type them on school computers
[23:18] <dualbootah> will ubuntu be able to recognize all 4 gigabytes of my RAM?
[23:18] <Monotoko> dualbootah, if you install the 64bit then yes
[23:18] <rww> dualbootah: Ubuntu includes LibreOffice. LibreOffice reads MS Word documents.
[23:18] <dualbootah> c00l!
[23:18] <dualbootah> umm i have a ubuntu disk
[23:18] <dualbootah> i think i selected 64bit
[23:18] <rww> dualbootah: Yes, either with 64-bit or PAE on 32-bit (which should be installed automatically if needed).
[23:18] <dualbootah> i just downloaded it a week ago to try it
[23:19] <AlanKey> dualbootah, you can install office in wine, use open office or Libre office which comes with ubunut
[23:19] <newbie123> trying the last usb port i have not tried nit-wit
[23:19] <dualbootah> kk so ill just wipe this partition make a new one then install ubuntu?
[23:19] <newbie123> reverts back to 10.04 so that is not the problem...nit-wit
[23:20] <nit-wit> newbie123, have you installed with this thumb, and possibly gotten grub in its mbr.
[23:20] <Monotoko> dualbootah, do you have Ubuntu on there at the moment?
[23:20] <dualbootah> AlanKey are you here often?
[23:20] <dualbootah> no i dont
[23:20] <dualbootah> just windows
[23:20] <AlanKey> not really why?
[23:20] <Monotoko> dualbootah, I would dual boot...Windows is useful
[23:20] <dualbootah> no no i really think i should go full ubuntu
[23:20] <dualbootah> i have no need for windows
[23:21] <AlanKey> monotoko, yes thats what i started by doing
[23:21] <nit-wit> dualbootah, you will need word even though libreoffice will read word it isn't as always reliable.
[23:22] <newbie123> nit-wit i will remake this usb flash drive....and see what happens then
[23:22] <dualbootah> will i be able to wirelessly print to my printer in ubuntu?
[23:22] <Monotoko> dualbootah, if you think that's best for you then go for it....I have been using Ubuntu 3 years now, but every few weeks I do still need Windows for things, I don't use it much but I often end up needing it
[23:22] <nit-wit> newbie123, that is probably the best route.
[23:22] <Monotoko> dualbootah, depends on your printer...google the printer followed by "ubuntu" or "linux" and see what others say
[23:22] <dualbootah> ill just make a windows virtualmachine if i need it
[23:23] <felipe_dde> Hey, i was reading a book here. Linux admin guide. On backup section it says about a command 'dump' and 'restore' ..humm on my debian box i cant find it..neither by apt-get ..isn't native?
[23:23] <dualbootah> monotoko
[23:23] <dualbootah> they have a whole linux special drivers section
[23:23] <dualbootah> :d
[23:23] <nit-wit> dualbootah, google docs I think is okay, libreoffice is greta but, if you have a tweaked up do from word, and want to tranfer it back it may be problematic.
[23:24] <dualbootah> I only used word like 5 times
[23:24] <dualbootah> in my life
[23:24] <dualbootah> lol
[23:24] <AlanKey> i use it all the time :?
[23:24] <dualbootah> in ubuntu?
[23:25] <AlanKey> err... i used to
[23:25] <n0madX> I love ubuntu
[23:25] <AlanKey> im having problems getting 2010 to work
[23:25] <dualbootah> n0madX r u full ubuntu?
[23:25] <dualbootah> do you like it alot?
[23:26] <n0madX> fucking love it
[23:26] <maco> n0madX: watch teh language please
[23:26] <dualbootah> well theres one problem
[23:26] <n0madX> sorry
[23:26] <Monotoko> !language | n0madX
[23:26] <tr43nd> yes
[23:27] <hamed> thank you very much for converting the unicode
[23:27] <hamed> 11.sub: UTF-8 Unicode text, with CRLF line terminators
[23:27] <dualbootah> see i test antiviruses against malware in virtualmachines, even though linux is a no malware platform, will it be safe if anything gets through? like if a worm gets through can it spread to the windows machines on my network
[23:27] <dualbootah> frin my ubuntu only machine
[23:27] <hamed> but the letters still in this strange symbols
[23:27] <n0madX> where can I get a permanent IRC nick name?
[23:27] <Polah> dualbootah: A non-Windows virus can't propagate on your machine but you could forward and email or something like that with a Windows virus to a Windows machine.
[23:28] <Monotoko> n0madX, just register your name, use /nickserv help for more info
[23:28] <Polah> !register | n0madX
[23:28] <dualbootah> okay so it would have to be ran ON THE WINDOWS machine to actually do something?
[23:28] <dualbootah> the real windows machine not the virtual machine right?
[23:28] <n0madX> you guys rock
[23:29] <Monotoko> dualbootah, if I follow correctly you are talking about malware? It would affect the virtual machine
[23:29] <Monotoko> but not the host
[23:29] <dualbootah> exactly
[23:29] <Monotoko> you can take a snapshot of the current state
[23:29] <dualbootah> i can link u to my vids
[23:29] <maco> Monotoko: maybe...
[23:29] <dualbootah> ya
[23:29] <maco> dualbootah: not all malware will run in a VM
[23:29] <dualbootah> and i revert monotoko
[23:29] <dualbootah> oh ya ik
[23:29] <maco> dualbootah: some will detect its a vm and be silent to mess up malware analysts
[23:29] <dualbootah> \basically i use antiviruses at stock settings then run malware against them
[23:29] <Monotoko> dualbootah, there are some nasties out there aimed at VM's
[23:30] <dualbootah> exactly, but if im on a linux host and it gets out
[23:30] <dualbootah> it wont affect my windows machines on the network
[23:30] <dualbootah> right?>
[23:30] <Laibsch> Something went amiss with my encrypted LVM (see question 154973) and I'm trying to understand how to get it back.  Can some kind soul with a working encrypted LVM please pastebin the output of "for initrd in /boot/initrd.img*; do echo $initrd;zcat $initrd|cpio --list|grep cryptr -i;done" for me?  Thx
[23:30] <Monotoko> dualbootah, Linux is not immune, if it knows what it's doing it can affect anything...but you would have to get a real nasty for that
[23:30] <TrD> how to find out the DB type of a remote webserver please ?
[23:30] <maco> dualbootah: it wont affect your linux hosts if its a windows virus. wndows hosts, all bets are off :P
[23:31] <dualbootah> ok so it wont like spread over the router to the linux machines unless its a worm right?
[23:31] <dualbootah> windows machines**
[23:31] <Monotoko> dualbootah, if you run it over NAT, probably not
[23:31] <dualbootah> kk
[23:31] <dualbootah> screw windows im sold ubuntu here i come!
[23:31] <Monotoko> if you run it over bridged then yes it will
[23:31] <AlanKey> lol
[23:31] <dualbootah> i just backed by stuff up im gonna go install ubuntu right now
[23:32] <iceroot> TrD: normally not possible
[23:32] <Monotoko> dualbootah, when your in the ubuntu world
[23:32] <Monotoko> install xchat
[23:32] <Monotoko> to get back here
[23:32] <dualbootah> kk
[23:32] <Monotoko> if you need more help :)
[23:32] <dualbootah> thanks a ton monotoko
[23:32] <dualbootah> r u here most of the time
[23:32] <dualbootah> cuz ur awesome
[23:32] <dualbootah> oh ya btw
[23:32] <iceroot> TrD: you can do a portscan for the common ports of postgresql, mysql and so on but normally they are not vissible from outside
[23:32] <Monotoko> dualbootah, no worries...and pretty much, give me if I'm in the room :)
[23:32] <dualbootah> what format should i make my partiton
[23:32] <Monotoko> *give me a ping
[23:32] <dualbootah> when i reformat
[23:32] <TrD> ah i wanna try iceroot thank you
[23:32] <Monotoko> dualbootah, go for ext4 if you don't need Windows to access it :)
[23:33] <dualbootah> i use gparted
[23:33] <dualbootah> kk
[23:33] <ichbinder> hello. During installation, is there a way to install a bootloader's files (grub in my case) to a separate partition while the bootloader itself is still installed to MBR? Specifying for such a partition that it shall be used as /boot didn't work and resulted in a corrupted bootloader configuration... re-installing now.
[23:33] <Monotoko> dualbootah, the installer can manage it for you
[23:33] <dualbootah> ill wipe windows and set the new one to ext4
[23:33] <dualbootah> can i do it myself too?
[23:33] <Monotoko> dualbootah, yeah...but your best leaving it to the installer...because you need a swap etc too
[23:33] <dualbootah> can i just wipe the windows partiton then
[23:33] <Polah> ichbinder: It's possible, you'd have to ask in #grub for how to do it though
[23:33] <dualbootah> and leave it as a blank nfts
[23:33] <Monotoko> dualbootah, yeah go for it
[23:33] <dualbootah> ntfs
[23:33] <dualbootah> kk
[23:33] <FloodBot1> dualbootah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <dualbootah> and then itll just do all it needs to the ntfs blank drive?
[23:34] <ichbinder> Polah: thanks. Well, #grub couldn't really help since this is an ubuntu-install specific question... :)
[23:34] <Monotoko> dualbootah, there will be an option to "wipe all and install Ubuntu" while your installing...just choose that
[23:34] <dualbootah> alright guys cya be back when im on ubuntu!
[23:34] <dualbootah> <3 u monotoko lol
[23:34] <TrD> can i pm you iceroot please ?
[23:34] <dualbootah> man love?
[23:34] <Monotoko> dualbootah, see you :) and hahah yes
[23:34] <Monotoko> bro love!
[23:35] <dualbootah> kk be back in a few does ubuntu install fast?
[23:35] <Monotoko> dualbootah, 20-30 mkins
[23:35] <Monotoko> *mins
[23:35] <dualbootah> kk not too bad
[23:35] <dualbootah> be back
[23:36] <Polah> ichbinder: Using the command grub-install allows you to specify where to put the GRUB files using the option --root-directory=/path/to/directory. For example, grub-install --root-directory=/boot sda   then you could just have /boot as it's own partition, i.e. you'd mount another partition there
[23:36] <AlanKey> does anyone know of a good windows VNC server??
[23:36] <Monotoko> AlanKey, realVNC
[23:37] <Monotoko> there is a free version for Windows I believe
[23:37] <AlanKey> cool thanks
[23:37] <goodtime> AlanKey: secure shell
[23:37] <Monotoko> AlanKey, why don't you just enable Remote Desktop on the Windows machine?
[23:37] <Monotoko> AlanKey, then use rdesktop?
[23:37] <AlanKey> oh
[23:38] <AlanKey> i need to access the laptop from my windows machene
[23:38] <Monotoko> AlanKey, is the laptop Linux?
[23:38] <Monotoko> AlanKey, if so...you will want the server on the laptop and the client on the Windows machine
[23:38] <AlanKey> ok
[23:39] <AlanKey> do you know of any servers for ubunut??
[23:39] <Polah> AlanKey: I said earlier, you'd need to set up a VNC server on the laptop and have a VNC client to connect to the server on the Windows machine. Alternatively you could use a program like Teamviewer, or set up an SSH server on the laptop and connect to it from the Windows machine using PuTTY
[23:39] <Monotoko> AlanKey, this may help: http://www.ozzu.com/unix-linux-forum/gui-remote-desktop-windows-linux-t51149.html
[23:39] <bigdaddyduergar> anyone played with "Conky" before?
[23:39] <AlanKey> thank you :)
[23:40] <Guest44329> hello all....
[23:40] <Monotoko> Guest44329, hello
[23:40] <TheCyph3r> hello
[23:40] <Guest44329> have a quick question about fstab...
[23:40] <Monotoko> Guest44329, hit us :)
[23:40] <ozatomic> with open-iscsi is it posible to bind it to a single nic. Everytime i bring down my second nic it destroys the iscsi
[23:40] <Guest44329> ok, on boot... this works and everything mounts fine....
[23:40] <Guest44329>  sudo mount -t cifs '//10.0.1.10/GoFlex Home Public' /home/xbmc/MediaMount -o username=xbmc,password=4546413
[23:40] <Polah> Guest44329: Go ahead with asking.
[23:41] <Guest44329> but when I do a sudo mount -a, I get an error with that line number
[23:41] <Guest44329> sorry....
[23:41] <Monotoko> Guest44329, you put that in your fstab? fstab isn't for commands...not sure what you would need to put into fstab to mount that though
[23:42] <Guest44329> one sec...
[23:42] <Monotoko> okay :)
[23:42] <Guest44329> that wasnt it at all...
[23:42] <OerHeks> Guest44329, maybe the ' is wrong
[23:42] <Monotoko> Guest44329, no worries...we all do it
[23:42] <goodtime> you can change the format with fstab
[23:42] <ichbinder> Polah: thanks. I tried that in my last installation, but didn't work somehow... I now re-install and i saw that you can once select a partition to use as /boot and then there is another option where you can select the installation partition for grub... so maybe I misconfigured that, last time. I highly doubt it, but we'll see...
[23:43] <Guest44329> /10.0.1.10/GoFlex\040Home\040Public /home/xbmc/NAS cifs username=xbmc,password=4546413 defaults 0 0
[23:43] <goodtime> heh
[23:43] <Guest44329> thats the line I get an error on when I do a "sudo mount -a"....
[23:44] <dr_willis> Guest44329:  i think your spaceing went wrong.. but i do belive the use of \040 for space is correct in fstab
[23:44] <dr_willis> or am i just reading it wrong...
[23:44] <Guest44329> I dunno....
[23:44] <dr_willis> I make it a point to NEVER set up shares with spaces in the names. :)
[23:44] <Guest44329> ok, so 040 is used in conjunction with the \ excape?
[23:44] <yagoo> Guest44329, what entry for cifs is in fstaB?
[23:45] <Monotoko> dr_willis, spaces are EVIL :P
[23:45] <dr_willis> xbmc has the feature to access samba shares on it own i thought,
[23:45] <Guest44329> yeah, this GoFlex NAS wont let me change the root share name
[23:45] <Guest44329> yeah,,,, SMB is slow with an Apple router...
[23:45] <dr_willis> and rember the settings..
[23:45] <Guest44329> or it is for me at least
[23:45] <zykotick9> Guest44329, i'd personally try it without that leading / before the 10.0.1.10 (just guessing)
[23:45] <Guest44329> btw my name is matt
[23:45] <dr_willis> if you like xbmc, you may want to check out boxee also.
[23:46] <Guest44329> boxee.... iick...
[23:46] <Guest44329> I just been using XBMC for so long...
[23:46] <cockblockjock> fags
[23:47] <ichbinder> another question: after installing a new ubuntu on a different machine, is there a way to install all applications that are installed in another ubuntu on a different machine?
[23:47]  * yagoo ??->" //10.0.1.10/GoFlex\ Public\ Home\ Public /home/xbmc/NAS cifs username=xbmc,password=4546413 defaults 0 0 "
[23:47] <ichbinder> Like: sudo apt-get install list_of_packages_from_ubuntu_on_old_machine
[23:47] <dr_willis> !clone | ichbinder
[23:47] <dr_willis> ichbinder:  yes there is.. :) see above for one way
[23:47] <Guest44329> yagoo, tried it and that wont mount on startup
[23:47] <dr_willis> yagoo:  quoteins spaces  like that in fstab will not work properly
[23:48] <dr_willis> fstab is very weird in how it wants spaces shown. (not sure why)
[23:48] <ichbinder> dr_willis: oh, thanks! cool
[23:48] <yagoo> Guest44329, between the quotes.. don't use quotes
[23:48] <tyler_d> my touchpad will not come back on even after trying gconftool-2, and restarting a few times. help please!
[23:48] <Guest44329> so the mount at startup will work fine.... but re-mounting doing mount -a, dosent work
[23:48] <dr_willis>  Public\ Home\ Public    will not work in fstab.. but would work via command line
[23:49] <dr_willis> http://raetsel.wordpress.com/2008/02/02/samba-shares-spaces-and-fstab-with-a-bit-of-octal-thrown-in/
[23:49] <SirShmoopy> can anyone help me find the information on my tv/build xorg to work right?
[23:49] <zykotick9> Guest44329, aka matt, have you tried without the leading / or //?
[23:49] <Guest44329> ok, well thanks for the consideration... yall have a great night.... thanks for the link....
[23:49] <SirShmoopy> my 32" is reading as a 37" so i cant see the sides
[23:49] <sneakyimp> I would like to use iptables to prevent inbound SSH access to my server EXCEPT for some ip ranges that are ones I use.  Can anyone help me figure this out?  I'm a total iptable noob.
[23:50] <dr_willis> Space is decimal 32 which is octal 40 ( but we need 3 digits for the interpretation to work so it is 040)
[23:50] <dr_willis> SirShmoopy:  sounds like the overscan settings
[23:50] <yagoo> Guest44329, ask in #bash how to capture character encoding (try using smbclient to list the "share name" pipe that to a hexdump.. maybe it's a strange charcter used by the goflex server)
[23:50] <dr_willis> SirShmoopy:  how are you connected to the tv?
[23:50] <SirShmoopy> mobo to lcdtv hdmi
[23:51] <dr_willis> sneakyimp:  i think sshd has settings to allow only from specific ip ranges.
[23:51] <dr_willis> SirShmoopy:  whats your video chipset?
[23:51] <sneakyimp> dr_willis: in the interest of *really* hardening my server, I'd like for iptables to block them before they can get a crack at sshd
[23:52] <SirShmoopy> i dont remember, its a ASUS P8Z68-V
[23:52] <dr_willis> sneakyimp:  time to learn iptables then i guess. :)
[23:52] <SirShmoopy> lemme see
[23:52] <dr_willis> SirShmoopy:  nvidia? ati? intel?
[23:52] <arooni-mobile> how can i make cron run even if my laptop is hibernated;  i.e. if cron is missed; it should be run on next boot
[23:52] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  that could be real screwy if you hibernated for like 3 months...
[23:53] <SirShmoopy> dr_willis, im guessing its intel? let me grab the box, i just built it last night
[23:53] <sneakyimp> dr_willis:  I've been reading the ubuntu docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo) but they don't have ip-specific examples.  I'm terrified of locking myself out.
[23:53] <froq> anyone know some real good directions on how to remove unity + gnome 2 and install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?
[23:53] <zykotick9> arooni-mobile, i "believe" anacron can do that
[23:53] <zykotick9> !gnome3 > froq
[23:53] <terry> sneakyimp: You can also use a different port.
[23:53] <dr_willis> froq:  that can cause breakage.. and is not oficially supported.. best to just wait for the next release for your gnome-3 addiction :)
[23:54] <sneakyimp> terry: thx, but security by obscurity doesn't really work as I understand it
[23:54] <froq> dr_willis, ... ok.  bummer.
[23:54] <BajK> is there ANY good reason why applications always rant about non existing /var/log/applicationname folder instead of just CREATING it?
[23:54] <yagoo> froq, hey relax.. it's summer :)
[23:54] <froq> yeah, I suppose... it is summer.  :)
[23:54] <BajK> proftpd does this, apache2 does this …
[23:54] <daniel__> hello i just updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and ihave no clue how to get my wireless card to work again ive been looking at this website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and still no clue i know that i have Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[23:55] <BajK> just adding mkdir /var/log/proftpd to /etc/init.d/proftpd 's "start" function does the job
[23:55] <dr_willis> BajK:   perhaps if someone hacked into your server and deleted the logs.. you would want to know.. I cant say ive ever noticed any programs ranting..
[23:55] <dr_willis> but i dont use ftp any more either.
[23:55] <BajK> but no, ranting … just because I give a sh.. about log files
[23:55] <BajK> dr_willis: well if the guy was clever he just deleted the contents
[23:55] <BajK> not the entire folder
[23:55] <BajK> and then it would not have said hat
[23:55] <BajK> it just checks for the folder to exist
[23:55] <BajK> and if not then it refuses to start
[23:55] <terry> sneakyimp: It helps.  But as dr_wills suggests, you can have sshd only listen to certain IPs or range of IPs.  Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config  (You can also move away from default port 22, and if you are interested in security, it will help.)
[23:56] <dr_willis> if he was really clever he would  be using ssh and scp.. but thats getting away from the issue
[23:56] <dr_willis> could be proftpd has a setting to not rant..
[23:56] <yagoo> daniel__, what command's show output?
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know where i can find out how to root a droid x 2.3.3 from within linux?
[23:56] <yagoo> [THC]AcidRain, from the android SDK docs maybe?
[23:56] <dr_willis> [THC]AcidRain:  'superoneclick' i recall worked via mono or .net.
[23:56] <sneakyimp> terry: thank you.  still sincerely hoping for help with iptables ;)
[23:57] <BajK> dr_willis: I just edited its startup script to create that respective folder
[23:57] <BajK> and that will do it :)
[23:57] <daniel__> yagoo,http://paste.ubuntu.com/649558/
[23:57] <daniel__> yagoo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/649558/
[23:57] <[THC]AcidRain> dr_willis: im not sure if that will work for me, if your superoneclick is refering to gingerbreak, its a no go
[23:58] <gmachine_24> How do I do a badblocks check on a drive attached to the computer via a PCI/RAID card? I don't use the RAID options - just as a way to add more drives to the computer. What I really mean is do I need to run the check from a "live" disc . . . or can I run it on the secondary drive after I unmount it? I'm running 10.04LTS.Thanks.
[23:58] <SirShmoopy> dr_willis, the board has no mention of nvidia or radion other than the support for the pcie ports so it is either Intel or something else?
[23:58] <terry> sneakyimp: Why do it with iptables when you can do it in sshd's config?
[23:59] <yagoo> daniel__, look at the device id.. ur card is supported
[23:59] <terry> /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -s 65.19.175.58 -j DROP
[23:59] <gmachine_24> Also, can I check the drive without destroying the data stored on it?
[23:59] <sneakyimp> terry: i'm following advice from a security expert I trust.  I've already got sshd locked down pretty tight.  i believe there are performance reasons and it is also more secure.
[23:59] <yagoo> daniel__, see "Installing STA drivers"