| falktx | oh, scott-work, ScottL | 11:47 |
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| falktx | I tried the iso-script some days ago | 11:48 |
| scott-work | yeah? | 11:48 |
| falktx | it seems that oneiric has lots of packages issues right now | 11:48 |
| scott-work | i'm having trouble installing ubuntu studio currently | 11:48 |
| falktx | not only US, but ubuntu generic packages are broken too | 11:48 |
| scott-work | i'm trying it on a new (ish) computer though | 11:48 |
| falktx | the upstart, intramfs, gnome3 and all those changes produce a lot of errors | 11:48 |
| scott-work | so i'm going to backup and try it out on natty to both validate isntalling ubuntu studio on this machine and to test the iso script | 11:49 |
| falktx | I was able to create an ISO, but gdm does not start | 11:49 |
| scott-work | ah | 11:49 |
| falktx | scott-work: you should be ok for a natty<->lucid ISO | 11:49 |
| falktx | I'll give this script more attention next week, so maybe you want to wait a bit | 11:50 |
| scott-work | right :) i have a natty dvd already so i'll test it out this evening (hopefully) | 11:50 |
| falktx | (I found some oneiric specific fixes that I want to add) | 11:50 |
| scott-work | oh, you sure i should wait? | 11:50 |
| falktx | scott-work: you can try just to see how far you can get, but 30% chances it will fail | 11:50 |
| scott-work | even for natty or lucid? | 11:50 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes | 11:51 |
| falktx | still, 70% sucess rate | 11:51 |
| scott-work | i still need to install natty to validate installation on this machine, so i don't hink it's much to go further and test the script | 11:51 |
| falktx | well, please do test, and let me know what you think | 11:52 |
| scott-work | it's a gateway that i was given and had to replace the power supply and i'm unfamiliar with gateway machines :/ | 11:52 |
| falktx | the script checks for dependencies at startup, so there's no problem with missing packages | 11:52 |
| scott-work | and although i was able to install fedora 15: design suite, it balked at installing the latest ubuntu studio daily image | 11:52 |
| falktx | I just forgot to write that, before quiting the 'custom' process, 'custom_end' should be run outside | 11:53 |
| scott-work | of course it probably is the daily image, given how many problems have been occuring with it | 11:53 |
| falktx | scott-work: please take a note ^ | 11:53 |
| scott-work | falktx: will it be extremely evident when i need to type this? | 11:53 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes, after you install all the packages in the chroot, just before quiting | 11:55 |
| falktx | scott-work: make sure you pay attention to all the messages that get printed | 11:55 |
| scott-work | falktx: how much typing will i be required to do? | 11:55 |
| falktx | not much | 11:55 |
| scott-work | i am quite ignorant of the steps required | 11:55 |
| falktx | I can give you the basic commands | 11:55 |
| falktx | ok, write this down | 11:56 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso natty i386 | 11:56 |
| falktx | (or other version or arch) | 11:56 |
| falktx | (this will install the basic chroot) | 11:57 |
| scott-work | i will copy/paste text, plus screenshot and send it all to myself in an email, quickest way for me | 11:57 |
| falktx | good | 11:57 |
| falktx | ok, 2 command: | 11:57 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso custom | 11:57 |
| falktx | (this will put you in the chroot, save the messages that get printed, and install whatever you need) | 11:58 |
| falktx | (you may need to enable universe and multiverse repos here) | 11:58 |
| falktx | (after you installed everything, run the printed messages about ubiquity [live installer], if you want such thing. if not, ignore this line) | 11:58 |
| falktx | (after *all* packages are installed, even ubiquity, run:) | 11:59 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso custom_end # outside, without leaving the chroot | 11:59 |
| falktx | (this will tell you how to properly clean&exit the chroot, so the live-cd works) | 12:00 |
| falktx | now, step 3: | 12:00 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso squash | 12:00 |
| falktx | oops | 12:00 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mksquash | 12:00 |
| falktx | (this will create the main squash.fs file, which contains the entire filesystem) | 12:00 |
| falktx | step 4: | 12:00 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mkboot | 12:00 |
| falktx | (this will create the boot stuff for the ISO, fails on oneiric here due to kernel 3.0) | 12:01 |
| falktx | step 5: | 12:01 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso mkart i386 UbuntuStudio | 12:01 |
| falktx | (it will ask you to copy a file here, which is in the same dir as the script file) | 12:02 |
| falktx | (re-run it after copying the file) | 12:02 |
| falktx | (after running this, some new messages get printed telling you to edit some files. do it as needed) | 12:03 |
| falktx | step 6: | 12:03 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso md5sum | 12:03 |
| falktx | (obvious) | 12:03 |
| falktx | step 7: | 12:03 |
| falktx | kxstudio-create-iso iso UbuntuStudio_LiveTest1Name | 12:03 |
| falktx | scott-work: done, after all this you got a nice ISO, ready to test | 12:04 |
| scott-work | cool :) | 12:06 |
| falktx | I used this process to create my KXStudio ISOs for lucid | 12:07 |
| falktx | hopefully it works in natty as well | 12:08 |
| scott-work | email sent to myself documenting this :) | 12:08 |
| scott-work | paultag: within six months i want to write an application with python and glade, would you mind being a resource to help with particulars? | 13:30 |
| paultag | scott-work: sure, no problem. I'm caught up with work, but my inbox is always open :) | 13:31 |
| scott-work | i'm still feeling my way through python, reading a book and looking at code, i don't expect to require much help with that (at least i hope ;) ) | 13:32 |
| scott-work | mainly i'm worried about using python-glade (or whatever the package is called) andprobably python-apt because i've had trouble finding information about them | 13:33 |
| paultag | scott-work: mmm | 13:40 |
| paultag | scott-work: it can be finikey but it's mostly sane | 13:40 |
| scott-work | paultag: part of the reason for the long time line is also to really develop explicit goals for this application, i really want clearly defined goals and UI for it before i start programming, i believe this will make the entire process more efficient and less frustrating | 13:44 |
| paultag | scott-work: :) | 13:44 |
| astraljava | I don't know if you have that saying in English, but here in finnish it goes like "Well planned is half done", but an agile workshop here twisted it into a form of "Well planned hasn't even begun to be implemented" (sorry, hard to translate.) Thought it was funny, and quite fitting. :) | 15:31 |
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