[00:13] <pol> hi
[00:13] <orngjce223> Hi
[00:13] <pol> anyone here? :)
[00:13] <orngjce223> Are you here to ask a question or do you just want to shoot the breeze? :v
[00:13] <pol> I think it's kind of sad to come here only to ask questions
[00:14] <orngjce223> Heh
[00:14] <pol> but yes, I have a question
[00:14] <orngjce223> Cool. Fire away.
[00:14] <pol> after 7 months of running really smoth
[00:14] <pol> my greybird theme messed up
[00:14] <pol> on a reboot
[00:15] <pol> And I have everything like the default installation, I mean, I just installed a xubuntu on a VM just to check
[00:15] <pol> and it's exactly the same setup
[00:15] <pol> but the window decorators are different, and I noticed the font changed by itself
[00:15] <orngjce223> Find the config files on the VM and copy them over all your config files by yourself, you might've gotten some subtle corruption? Or change it back manually
[00:16] <pol> the thing is, everything I can see is the same on the configs
[00:16] <pol> but then, visually, it isn't
[00:16] <orngjce223> Weird.
[00:17] <pol> yes, really weird
[00:17] <orngjce223> You could ask #xfce about the structure of the config files and which exact ones you're going to need to fool with
[00:17] <pol> I mean, I don't consider myself a newbie but c'mon, I haven't found a reason for this change
[00:17] <pol> nor updates, nor anything
[00:18] <charlie-tca> and you have restarted, and it did not change.
[00:18] <pol> exactly
[00:19] <charlie-tca> Had to be an update to the video card, xorg, or something
[00:19] <pol> I can provide some screenshots
[00:19] <pol> I fixed all I could but the window decorators, for the same theme -greybird- are different
[00:23] <pol> http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9036/55200890.png
[00:23] <pol> if you want to check
[00:25] <pol> oh god
[00:25] <pol> this is just a facepalm for me
[00:25] <pol> window decorator > style
[00:25] <pol> the thing is, why did it change by itself
[00:32] <pol> well, thanks for your time, and have a nice day/night
[00:32] <pol> cheers mate
[00:42] <Doyle> Hi Folks. When new windows open, the top of them appear under the top panel. To move them I have to right-click on the panel entry and select 'move'. Is there a way to prevent windows from opening in this space?
[00:43] <gusnan> Doyle, not what you are asking for, but: you can probably move the windows by holding down alt, and dragging them too.
[00:44] <orngjce223> Then don't have a top panel. :v
[00:45] <gusnan> Doyle, I correct myself, my tip doesn't seem to work on xubuntu for some reason...
[00:45] <orngjce223> Oh no, it works just fine, gusnan
[00:45] <Doyle> Thanks gusnan
[00:46] <gusnan> ah, then its my virtualbox that catches my alt pressing before it gets to the WM...
[00:46] <Doyle> The problem is that the area where you'd normally click on to drag a window, the window title area, is hidden by the top panel... Not having a top panel is not an option for me.
[00:47] <Doyle> gusnan: install Guest Additions
[00:47] <gusnan> will do! :) Thanks Doyle
[01:34] <charlie-tca> Doyle: try this:  Alt+F2, xfwm4 &
[01:34] <charlie-tca> see if that fixes it
[01:42] <Doyle> RDP is over Terminal Services... Why is it that some applications can't be installed over TS?
[07:32] <carcinogen75> hello! I have a problem. When i double click on the header of window, it's not maximizing. I have checked this options and it's ON. What can i d0, or its a bug?
[07:33] <Sysi> click over exactly one pixel
[07:33] <Sysi> it's easier if you do it very fast
[07:34] <Sysi> I think there're planning to fix that
[07:34] <carcinogen75> ouh!! i must click very very fast)) thx it works
[09:35] <Phalstaff> I am learning to write program (for my own amusement) can someone explain the basics of terminal emulators?
[09:37] <TheSheep> they emulate hardware terminals. the end.
[10:46] <lv_> just wanted to say thanks for a good OS image guys you rock
[12:39] <dazz> buonasera!! :D
[15:21] <cYmen> re
[15:22] <cYmen> I'm having trouble with some pdfs, they look fine in acroread but in evince and okular most characters are replaced by little boxes.
[15:22] <cYmen> Any idea what font package I should install or something?
[15:32] <GridCube> cYmen: do you have wine installed on your system?
[15:51] <martingust> Hello people, I have some serious trouble getting the sound to work on my machine. I have two sound cards installed and want to use the second card (1,7) as default. Have tried multiple guides etc.but nothing seems to work. Does anyone know anything about this?? Could really use some help...
[15:52] <cYmen> GridCube: no
[15:54] <charlie-tca> martingust: is there a reason to keep both cards installed? Just remove the one you aren't using
[15:55] <martingust> Would this solve the problem though?
[15:56] <GridCube> cYmen: oh, i was reading that evince has problems sometimes if wine install different fonts on the system, you should check what font (or font family) the pdf is calling for and see if you have one installed
[15:56] <charlie-tca> won't know without trying, I guess
[15:57] <cYmen> GridCube: hm...any ideas how to do that?
[15:57] <GridCube> martingust: you have an integrated sound card that you don't want to use? if yes then you should be able to disable it from the BIOS
[15:57] <cYmen> I have no clue how to extract such information from a pdf. :)
[15:58] <GridCube> cYmen: open the pdf and go to see its propierties from inside acroread
[15:58] <GridCube> it should tell you
[15:58] <GridCube> (i haven't actually used acroread on linux since like a long time ago so i don't remember the menus but it should tell you)
[15:59] <cYmen> :)
[15:59] <cYmen> it crashes when I try to go to the fonts tab ;)
[16:00] <GridCube> oh
[16:01] <GridCube> cYmen: you should probably ask on irc://irc.gnome.org/evince
[16:01] <martingust> I have checked BIOS and there was no option to disable it there... Anyway I'm pretty sure that disabling one of the sound cards won't solve the problem. I have been looking trough some guides and I think that I just need to tell alsa or pulse audio or to use the right device on the right card in some configuration file or trough a  probe mask or similar... Unfortunately none of the guides work for me...
[16:01] <cYmen> GridCube: maybe, yeah
[16:02] <cYmen> thanks!
[16:02] <GridCube> cYmen: sorry for not being of better help, hope it solves
[16:02] <martingust> I can get sound too play using: aplay -d hw:1,7 sound.wav
[16:03] <GridCube> martingust: when i used a two audio setup back in the day the only way i found to use the pci card was disabling it from the BIOS, either way it just failed everytime
[16:07] <martingust> I just can't get this device to be the standard sound output for the system. So sound works, I just have to get the system to use it...  Any who any how, I guess I'll just keep googeling..
[16:09] <GridCube> martingust: have already read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards  ¿?
[16:12] <martingust> Just had a look,  and my computer is brand new so I don't think that the sound cards are to old to be detected etc. As i said, both cards are detected and are also working fine, I just need to figure out how to tell the system which device on what card to use.
[16:13] <martingust> In Ubuntu there is an option in the sound preferences to choose both wich card and which device to use, there is no such option in xubuntu sound options.
[16:13] <martingust> I can just choose Alsa (Nvidia)
[16:15] <GridCube> martingust: maybe trying this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/default-sound-card-in-ubuntu-564006/#post2942716
[16:16] <GridCube> martingust: or this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6017950&postcount=2
[16:17] <martingust> Actually this post describes my problem precisely: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1668737
[16:18] <martingust> Everything in the guide works perfectly until I create the probe mask, the probe mask I create does not work for me...
[16:21] <martingust> Actually found another solution now, will try this; http://www.piggott.me.uk/blog/2011/03/26/how-to-make-pulseaudio-work-with-nvidia-hdmi-audio-outputs-under-fedora-and-ubuntu/
[16:23] <GridCube> have you already read the 11 pages of the previous link?
[16:28] <martingust> Woooooooohooooooooo! It works! :)
[16:29] <GridCube> .D
[16:29] <GridCube> :D
[16:30] <martingust> Thanks for your help anyway, always appreciated!
[16:31] <GridCube> :)
[16:32] <GridCube> would you mind to write how did you do it?
[16:33] <GridCube> even on a pastebin will be enough and helpful for other people eventually
[16:36] <martingust> Just followed this guide, it tells you how to let pulseaudio know what device to use as standard: http://www.piggott.me.uk/blog/2011/03/26/how-to-make-pulseaudio-work-with-nvidia-hdmi-audio-outputs-under-fedora-and-ubuntu/
[16:37] <GridCube> ok :) thank you that makes easier to keep a record of q&a's
[19:33] <SATAv2> can someone help me install microsoft visual c++ runtime library with wine/winetricks I need it really bad for an important program :/
[19:33] <Sysi> .NET programs are run with mono
[19:33] <Sysi> !mono
[19:33] <Sysi> !info mono
[19:34] <SATAv2> so what do i doo.
[19:34] <likemindead> Try >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerUsersProgramming
[19:34] <Sysi> install mono-runtime or something like that
[19:35] <SATAv2> but its c++ not c
[19:36] <Unit193> !info mono-runtime
[19:37] <SATAv2> well I installed it and it still doesn't work :P
[19:37] <Unit193> You may also need libmono-winforms2.0-cil
[19:38] <SATAv2> a package?
[19:38] <Unit193> Yes. You are trying to run a GUI program?
[19:38] <SATAv2> yes
[19:38] <SATAv2> exe
[19:38] <SATAv2> that is the ONLY problem I have with it
[19:39] <SATAv2> i dont need to install anything via winetricks?
[19:39] <Unit193> Shouldn't
[19:39] <Unit193> I only know of one program to get it to fully work do you need to do that
[19:40] <SATAv2> still error :/
[19:40] <SATAv2> visual c++ runtim libmono-winforms2.0-cirrore library runtime e
[19:40] <SATAv2> ahg
[19:40] <SATAv2> stupid keyboard
[19:40] <SATAv2> microsoft visual c++ runtime library runtime error
[19:43] <Unit193> There should be a mono -v program.exe  switch to get more info, I could be wrong
[19:45] <SATAv2> _the assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded it should have been installed in the directory
[19:45] <SATAv2> :p
[19:50] <Unit193> Baaa. This VC++/Mono stuff is never easy... run    sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l |grep mono |pastebinit      to install pastebinit and paste what mono libs you have installed to pastebin
[19:54] <SATAv2> hih
[19:54] <SATAv2> huh
[21:12] <MaxDamage> Hey. I'm experiencing bad sound quality with my Asus Xonar DG. It works flawlessly under Windows 7, but I can't get proper output in Xubuntu.
[21:44] <|Slacker|_> hello there
[21:45] <|Slacker|_> is there a way to make xubuntu a bit faster? I installed it on my netbook and it's slow and heavy :( even ubuntu with unity runs smoother
[21:45] <charlie-tca> did you install Xubuntu from the Xubuntu cd, or on top of Ubuntu?
[21:46] <|Slacker|_> from the cd
[21:46] <charlie-tca> which version?
[21:46] <|Slacker|_> I'm running it in a vm now and after the update it's running better but in my netbook it runs slower than another distro with kde, it shouldn't be like that , right?
[21:47] <|Slacker|_> i'm running 11.04
[21:53] <cris> damn...got disconnected
[21:53] <charlie-tca> are the distros are running in vm?
[21:53] <charlie-tca> or, xubuntu is in a vm in Ubuntu?
[21:53] <cris> I have xubuntu in my vm under win
[21:54] <cris> but yesterday in installed it on my netbook and it sucked big time
[21:54] <cris> :/
[21:54] <cris> when I finally thought I'v efound a decent xfce 4.8 distro :(
[21:56] <cris> in my opinion this version is the best ever when it comes to looks and organization, but unfortunatelly isn't working well with my netbook
[21:56] <Sysi> if you open terminal and run 'top' is there any process eating lots of cpu?
[21:57] <cris> lemme see
[21:57] <cris> apparently not
[22:00] <cris> hmmm it's running well in the VM and wirth only 680 mb of memory...strange....my netbook has 2gb of ram
[22:00] <cris> I'll give it another try later on tonight
[22:03] <Sysi> what netbook?
[22:04] <cris> I have a philco one....it's sold only in brazil, it's 2 years old already, atom n270
[22:08] <cris> well...gotta go to work...I'll deal with that later, thanks everyone
[22:10] <shiinto> hi, certain tray icons on my task panel arent visible. E.g. Opera and !power-manager. what can i do?
[22:11] <shiinto> (but i can do right-click on the panel and the specific dropdownmenu appears correctly)