ScottKJust uploaded pykde so we don't pull in python2.6 anymore.03:24
ScottKRiddell: If you could also do Bug #814411 as well, I'd appreciate it.03:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 814411 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "Please remove kdebase source only" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81441103:34
ScottKOK.  Took the extra language packs out of kubuntu-full, so it shouldn't take forever to install.05:07
QuintasanGood morning.06:39
jussihrm, do we have a nice youtube browser/player? I mean an equivalent to the android youtube player that doesnt use flash.06:45
jussigood morning Quintasan06:45
jussiQuintasan: exactly what I was after, thanks07:08
Quintasanshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/99991 <- lines 1,2 and 5, why they are not in any install files nor in not-installed?08:18
* Quintasan fixes08:20
* Quintasan wonders what usr/lib/libacomment.a is08:20
Quintasanjussi: Any idea what *.a file might be?08:20
Quintasanoh wait, isn't that a static library?08:21
QuintasanQuasseldroid ftw09:32
valoriewhere did you find that, Quintasan?09:36
valoriein the app store?09:36
jussiQuintasan: heh, just looked here. and yes, .a is a static lib10:44
debfxScottK: I've already filed a removal request for all kde 4.6 source packages we no longer have10:48
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Quintasanvalorie: Nope, Quassel's homepage11:40
Quintasanvalorie: Latest post has the links and it works now without any damn proxy :D11:41
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ScottKdebfx: OK.  Are there any left that still need to be processed?13:31
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debfxScottK: not sure which have already been removed, it's bug #80961113:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 809611 in Ubuntu "Please remove KDE 4.6 packages from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80961113:32
ScottKThat would explain why I didn't find it, I looked for bugs against the packages.13:32
* ScottK checks.13:33
ScottKRiddell: If you could take care of the other packages listed in Bug #809611 then we'd be done.  (thanks debfx)13:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 809611 in Ubuntu "Please remove KDE 4.6 packages from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80961113:37
Riddellfarewell kdebase-runtime kdebindings kdeedu kdegraphics konq-plugins nepomukcontroller, we knew thee well13:53
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.13:53
ScottKAll except nepomucontroller, yee, we barely knew thee.13:54
ScottKapachelogger: Any thoughts on how to fix this armel FTBFS: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74933606/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.clementine_0.7.1-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:00
ScottKIf there's a general approach a neophyte like me can take, I'm glad to do it and then test build it into existence.14:00
ScottKEven better, amarok doesn't build on i386 anymore: http://paste.debian.net/123768/14:12
shadeslayerQuintasan: are you sure 1 and 5 are not false positives? and i didn't install the static library because iirc we don't ship static libs14:42
yofelwe don't usually, but libkdeedu for example ships one since something needs it14:44
yofelNOTE: we still have kdevelop packages in ninjas that need testing14:46
ScottKYou have to empty dependency_libs in the .la if you ship it.14:49
yofelas for kdeedu there was no .la IIRC14:51
apacheloggerScottK: build without opengl14:53
apachelogger/usr/include/GL/gl.h:168:17: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef double GLdouble'14:53
ScottKapachelogger: OK.  How about amarok?14:53
apachelogger/usr/include/GL/glext.h:5046:19: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef ptrdiff_t GLintptr'14:54
apachelogger/usr/include/GLES2/gl2.h:38:26: error: 'GLintptr' has a previous declaration as 'typedef khronos_intptr_t GLintptr'14:54
apacheloggerit is including gl and glext and gles214:54
apacheloggerand the combination of those three is absolutely incompatible really14:54
apacheloggerScottK: regarding amarok I'd guess that it is not compatible with libplasma from 4.714:55
ScottKapachelogger: Who do we know who's keeping track of such things in amarok these days?14:55
apacheloggerScottK: join #amarok.dev and use shoutcase to inform them of the fail14:57
ScottKWould pinging markey here work?14:57
apacheloggermarkey is very busy these days14:58
apacheloggerbut Nightrose might be able to do something14:58
apacheloggerseeing as she is release manager14:58
ScottKNightrose: http://paste.debian.net/123768/ is our problem.14:58
apacheloggerScottK: bug 735166 made me go WTF ealier btw14:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 735166 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "Hide KDE System Settings in Ubuntu" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73516614:59
NightroseScottK: sorry - i have 0 time for this today - can you email amarok-devel@kde.org please?14:59
apacheloggerI am not even sure why, might just be the audacity of suggesting kde systemsettings to be renamed so that they can have their silly ubuntu stuff14:59
ScottKapachelogger: Fixed.15:00
ScottKNightrose: Sure.15:00
NightroseScottK: thx15:00
apacheloggerah epically nice15:01
ScottKSigh.  Where's taco boy when you need him ....15:27
yofelhe does triage bugs, so send him a mail, he'll read it (I think)15:40
yofel4.7.0 got tagged btw. I'll clean the wiki15:41
ScottKOK.  Mailed.  Thanks.15:44
bambee_Quintasan: ping15:59
bambee_http://paste.ubuntu.com/650064/ :)15:59
bambee_just add a breaks/replace kate (<< 4:4.6.90) for kate-data16:00
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ScottKapachelogger: Just for added reinforcement I brought up 735166 at the release team meeting and said it was a Gnome problem and we wouldn't diverge from upstream.16:02
ScottKNo one objected, so I take that as the official release team position now.16:02
apacheloggeryofel: 4.7.0 tars up the dirk sez16:12
yofelapachelogger: [17:41:01] <yofel> 4.7.0 got tagged btw. I'll clean the wiki16:15
apacheloggeryofel: tagging != availability of tars :P16:17
yofelah, that's what I meant actually ^^16:17
yofelbambee: I believe kate in the ppa was outdated, I didn't get any conflicts here16:18
bambeeweird :\16:19
* bambee resyncs apt and try again16:19
yofelbtw. we still need testers for kdevelop16:20
ScottKkstars is now showing up in NBS.  Is that a split tarball we forgot about?16:28
yofelthat was from kdeedu, and blocked by libindi16:31
ScottKWhat's the hold up on libindi?16:37
yofelaks shadeslayer16:38
ScottKWe have one package in the archive, kita2, that needs libkde4-ruby.  apachelogger: Since you're such a ruby fanboi can you find someone to package up libkde4-ruby and whatever else it needs?16:39
bambeeyofel: I don't use kdevelop :p16:40
bambeeemacs ftw!16:40
* bambee hides16:40
ScottKWe also have omaque that needs libkde4-ruby1.8, libokular-ruby1.816:41
yofelthat's korundum from bindings. It's in the PPA16:42
ScottKOK.  Now that the kdebindings source is removed, we'll need to get that uploaded so they aren't NBS.16:43
yofelthe packaging page is becoming a PITA to clean :S16:44
* ScottK suggests making a copy of the cleaned matrix and keeping it somewhere, then it's just copy/paste/done16:45
shadeslayerScottK: waiting on upstream to fix indi drivers16:48
shadeslayeri did manage to build libindi and one driver16:49
shadeslayereverything else is FTBFS on oneiric, have sent logs to upstream dev16:49
ScottKshadeslayer: Is libindi and one driver enough to get it in the archive so we can update kstars?16:51
shadeslayerwell, kinda, libindi itself should be enough, but you need the drivers to do any actual work16:52
ScottKRight, so if you could go ahead with the update, then kstars wouldn't have to be blocked.16:53
ScottKDo keep on the upstream about the rest though.16:53
shadeslayerin that case, please review the 2 indi packages in the ninjas ppa16:55
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ubottuNinja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel16:56
yofelget to work ;)16:56
* yofel takes kdelibs16:57
markeyScottK: you pinged me? I'm at home now17:04
ScottKmarkey: I mailed amarok-devel instead.17:06
ScottKmarkey: but I didn't solve the problem yet.17:06
ScottKmarkey: Trying to build amarok 2.4.1 with KDE 4.7 and it fails.17:06
ScottKmarkey: http://paste.debian.net/123768/ is the error.17:06
* markey looks17:10
markeyah, the ScriptEngine17:11
markeyconstant sorrow17:11
ScottKThe one suggestion I got from my mail was fiddling the version check in src/context/scriptengine/javascript/bind_dataengine.h17:11
markeyScottK: thanks for emailing amarok-devel ML, we will look at it17:11
ScottKI tried each way I can think of for that with no luck.17:12
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 366 * debian/ (changelog libkio5.symbols) New upstrem release17:23
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control rules) bump to 4.7.0 and resync with archive17:29
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/ (changelog smoke-dev-tools.install) New upstrem release17:48
yofelScottK: do we need symbol files for the bindings? (please say no...)18:25
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog New upstrem release18:38
apacheloggerrbelem, ScottK: so, what do we do about plasma mobile/active builds? we'll need special branches of kdelibs and runtime atleast 18:38
apacheloggerpackage the snapshots separately?18:38
apacheloggerI guess for libs we could patch it in though ... AFAIK the changes are only limited to the experimental libraries18:39
ScottKIf it's just experimental, patching might make sense.18:54
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 134 * debian/ (changelog libakonadi-kde4.symbols) New upstrem release19:05
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 135 * debian/control fix build-dep on kde-sc-dev-latest19:11
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 82 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release19:16
ScottKThe changes I made yesterday shaved 5MB off the CD.19:31
ScottKNeed moar19:31
muntiKubuwhat's that news in kubuntu.org about 4.7 RC1 available for oneiric? Is this  a typo since RC2 has been out for sometime?19:41
muntiKubuand RC1 has been for quite a while?19:42
yofelthere were things missing from rc1 and there simply was no announcement yet. We don't have any rc2 packages19:43
ScottKmuntiKubu: Upstream KDE made major changes to how they distribute KDE in 4.7.  It took a lot of work to adapt to it, so we've skipped RC2.19:45
muntiKubuah..I know 4.6.90 has been in the repo for sometime and the announcement kinda took me like "did they mean 4.6.95"19:49
muntiKubuScottK: thanks for all your hard work. 19:51
ScottKParts of it have been.19:52
ScottKWe only got all of it the archive in the last day or so.19:52
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 183 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release19:59
rbelemapachelogger, i think patching is ok20:00
apacheloggerpatchy peachy poochie20:01
rbelemapachelogger, should we get all patches from those branches?20:01
* apachelogger gets the booze so he'll be properly wasted for his bday20:01
apacheloggerrbelem: all patches?20:02
rbelemapachelogger, i mean all the patches that are not in the master :-D20:14
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 529 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release20:21
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 72 * debian/ (changelog control) new upstrem release20:25
bambeemhh Ben Cooksley was a bit nervous when he wrote in email to kde-core and gnome ML... (however, I understand his position)20:35
kubotubambee meant: "mhh Ben Cooksley was a bit nervous when he wrote a email to kde-core and gnome ML... (however, I understand his position)"20:35
ScottKbambee: Did you see about the bug we got on the topic.20:36
bambeeyes I did (your reply)20:36
bambeethat's seriously a stupid situation, I mean "systemsettings" exists in kde since... what? kde 2.x ?20:38
bambee(or it was kconfig...20:39
bambeeI don't remember...20:39
apacheloggerrbelem: yes, well, if they are in fact limited to the experimental stuff20:39
apacheloggerI'd rather not risk breakage due to patching20:39
apacheloggerwhich entirely reminded me of the qa blog I should be finishing20:39
apacheloggersheytan: any mockups?20:40
apacheloggersheytan: general question... should the controls fade out or move down on hiding?20:40
apacheloggerI think fade looks better, form what I tried20:41
bambeeScottK: is there another post on gnome ML about that ? (except this one)20:45
ScottKThat's all I know of.20:45
ScottKI don't follow Gnome ML at all.20:45
ScottKApparently the tone of the mail was too harsh for the delicate ears of Gnome developers, so I'm not sure even this one made it to their lists.20:48
ScottKMaybe someone who knows someone that blogs on planet Gnome ought to get them to blog on this so that they will know.20:48
apacheloggereither they are crying or they are bitching in private now20:49
ScottKapachelogger: What do you think about the idea of making gtk2-engines-oxygen NOT depend on gtk2.  It will only ever get used if some other package that needs gtk2 gets installed and that gets gtk2 off the CD?20:59
ScottKSince there's no Taco man around to object, I think I will.21:00
yofelsounds reasonable21:00
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:01
ScottKActually it looks like it is meant to do this already: dh_makeshlibs -X/usr/lib/gtk-2.021:01
apacheloggerScottK: please do, I was thinking about that earlier when debfx and I were looking into cd size and wanted to wait for the taco, but since he is not so much available just go ahead :)21:02
ScottKI got X changed to gtk3 should be off the CD tomorrow.21:02
apacheloggerScottK: also IIRC the appmenu gtj stuff has some gtk/pango/whatever deps that should be evaluted21:02
ScottKMight be.21:03
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CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 169 * debian/ (changelog control kmail.install) New upstrem release21:25
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:29
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:32
ScottKI think I got gtk2-engines-oxygen figured out.21:32
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/ (changelog control libmarblewidget12.symbols) New upstream release21:40
yofelNOTE: I still need someone to test kdevelop from ninjas for natty.21:55
yofeland someone could upload the oneiric packages.21:55
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release21:59
apacheloggerwhisky <322:06
ScottKThis reminds me I need to go to the store.22:07
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CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/ (not-installed changelog control) New upstream release and add manpage to not-installed22:12
birthdayloggeryofel: move kdev to staging and drop a mail about it22:50
yofelgood idea22:51
* yofel wants to hit the okteta maintainer for moving his headers around all the time in the meanwhile22:51
birthdayloggeryofel: drop a mail about that too then22:53
yofelnah, he moved them for rc1, and it seems he moved them back for final again22:53
yofelshould hopefully make kdevlop build with 4.7 again without a patch actually22:54
* yofel needs to write kcleanppa -.-22:56
birthdayloggerI like how you need to write stuffz yourself cause lp is so limited :S22:57
yofelyeah, is a 'select all' checkbox really too much to ask? :/22:57
bambeebirthdaylogger: it's your birthday?23:03
birthdayloggerme passport sez so at least23:08
* yofel hugs birthdaylogger23:08
yofelHappy Brithday :D23:08
birthdayloggerthx :)23:09
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 140 * debian/ (changelog control okteta-dev.install) New upstream release23:18
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release23:35
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/cantor] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release23:40

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