[03:24] <ScottK> Just uploaded pykde so we don't pull in python2.6 anymore.
[03:34] <ScottK> Riddell: If you could also do Bug #814411 as well, I'd appreciate it.
[05:07] <ScottK> OK.  Took the extra language packs out of kubuntu-full, so it shouldn't take forever to install.
[06:28] <Tm_T> http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/tardis-stargate-paradox.jpg
[06:39] <Quintasan> Good morning.
[06:45] <jussi> hrm, do we have a nice youtube browser/player? I mean an equivalent to the android youtube player that doesnt use flash.
[06:45] <jussi> good morning Quintasan
[06:46] <Quintasan> Minitube?
[07:08] <jussi> Quintasan: exactly what I was after, thanks
[08:18] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/99991 <- lines 1,2 and 5, why they are not in any install files nor in not-installed?
[08:20]  * Quintasan fixes
[08:20]  * Quintasan wonders what usr/lib/libacomment.a is
[08:20] <Quintasan> jussi: Any idea what *.a file might be?
[08:21] <Quintasan> oh wait, isn't that a static library?
[08:38] <bambee> morning
[09:32] <Quintasan> omfg
[09:32] <Quintasan> Quasseldroid ftw
[09:36] <valorie> where did you find that, Quintasan?
[09:36] <valorie> in the app store?
[10:44] <jussi> Quintasan: heh, just looked here. and yes, .a is a static lib
[10:48] <debfx> ScottK: I've already filed a removal request for all kde 4.6 source packages we no longer have
[11:40] <Quintasan> valorie: Nope, Quassel's homepage
[11:41] <Quintasan> valorie: Latest post has the links and it works now without any damn proxy :D
[13:31] <ScottK> debfx: OK.  Are there any left that still need to be processed?
[13:32] <debfx> ScottK: not sure which have already been removed, it's bug #809611
[13:32] <ScottK> That would explain why I didn't find it, I looked for bugs against the packages.
[13:33]  * ScottK checks.
[13:37] <ScottK> Riddell: If you could take care of the other packages listed in Bug #809611 then we'd be done.  (thanks debfx)
[13:53] <Riddell> farewell kdebase-runtime kdebindings kdeedu kdegraphics konq-plugins nepomukcontroller, we knew thee well
[13:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[13:54] <ScottK> All except nepomucontroller, yee, we barely knew thee.
[14:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: Any thoughts on how to fix this armel FTBFS: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/74933606/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.clementine_0.7.1-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:00] <ScottK> If there's a general approach a neophyte like me can take, I'm glad to do it and then test build it into existence.
[14:12] <ScottK> Even better, amarok doesn't build on i386 anymore: http://paste.debian.net/123768/
[14:12] <ScottK> Suggestions?
[14:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: are you sure 1 and 5 are not false positives? and i didn't install the static library because iirc we don't ship static libs
[14:43] <yofel> o/
[14:44] <yofel> we don't usually, but libkdeedu for example ships one since something needs it
[14:46] <yofel> NOTE: we still have kdevelop packages in ninjas that need testing
[14:49] <ScottK> You have to empty dependency_libs in the .la if you ship it.
[14:51] <yofel> as for kdeedu there was no .la IIRC
[14:51] <ScottK> OK.
[14:53] <apachelogger> ScottK: build without opengl
[14:53] <apachelogger> /usr/include/GL/gl.h:168:17: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef double GLdouble'
[14:53] <ScottK> apachelogger: OK.  How about amarok?
[14:54] <apachelogger> /usr/include/GL/glext.h:5046:19: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef ptrdiff_t GLintptr'
[14:54] <apachelogger> /usr/include/GLES2/gl2.h:38:26: error: 'GLintptr' has a previous declaration as 'typedef khronos_intptr_t GLintptr'
[14:54] <apachelogger> it is including gl and glext and gles2
[14:54] <apachelogger> and the combination of those three is absolutely incompatible really
[14:54] <ScottK> OK.
[14:55] <apachelogger> ScottK: regarding amarok I'd guess that it is not compatible with libplasma from 4.7
[14:55] <ScottK> apachelogger: Who do we know who's keeping track of such things in amarok these days?
[14:57] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[14:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: join #amarok.dev and use shoutcase to inform them of the fail
[14:57] <ScottK> Would pinging markey here work?
[14:58] <apachelogger> markey is very busy these days
[14:58] <apachelogger> but Nightrose might be able to do something
[14:58] <apachelogger> seeing as she is release manager
[14:58] <ScottK> Nightrose: http://paste.debian.net/123768/ is our problem.
[14:59] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 735166 made me go WTF ealier btw
[14:59] <Nightrose> ScottK: sorry - i have 0 time for this today - can you email amarok-devel@kde.org please?
[14:59] <apachelogger> I am not even sure why, might just be the audacity of suggesting kde systemsettings to be renamed so that they can have their silly ubuntu stuff
[15:00] <ScottK> apachelogger: Fixed.
[15:00] <ScottK> Nightrose: Sure.
[15:00] <Nightrose> ScottK: thx
[15:01] <apachelogger> ah epically nice
[15:01] <apachelogger> ScottK++
[15:27] <ScottK> Sigh.  Where's taco boy when you need him ....
[15:40] <yofel> he does triage bugs, so send him a mail, he'll read it (I think)
[15:41] <yofel> 4.7.0 got tagged btw. I'll clean the wiki
[15:44] <ScottK> OK.  Mailed.  Thanks.
[15:59] <bambee_> Quintasan: ping
[15:59] <bambee_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/650064/ :)
[16:00] <bambee_> just add a breaks/replace kate (<< 4:4.6.90) for kate-data
[16:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: Just for added reinforcement I brought up 735166 at the release team meeting and said it was a Gnome problem and we wouldn't diverge from upstream.
[16:02] <apachelogger> swell
[16:02] <ScottK> No one objected, so I take that as the official release team position now.
[16:02] <apachelogger> ^^
[16:12] <apachelogger> yofel: 4.7.0 tars up the dirk sez
[16:15] <yofel> apachelogger: [17:41:01] <yofel> 4.7.0 got tagged btw. I'll clean the wiki
[16:17] <apachelogger> yofel: tagging != availability of tars :P
[16:17] <yofel> ah, that's what I meant actually ^^
[16:18] <yofel> bambee: I believe kate in the ppa was outdated, I didn't get any conflicts here
[16:19] <bambee> weird :\
[16:19]  * bambee resyncs apt and try again
[16:20] <yofel> btw. we still need testers for kdevelop
[16:28] <ScottK> kstars is now showing up in NBS.  Is that a split tarball we forgot about?
[16:31] <yofel> that was from kdeedu, and blocked by libindi
[16:37] <ScottK> What's the hold up on libindi?
[16:38] <yofel> aks shadeslayer
[16:38] <yofel> *ask
[16:39] <ScottK> We have one package in the archive, kita2, that needs libkde4-ruby.  apachelogger: Since you're such a ruby fanboi can you find someone to package up libkde4-ruby and whatever else it needs?
[16:40] <bambee> yofel: I don't use kdevelop :p
[16:40] <bambee> emacs ftw!
[16:40]  * bambee hides
[16:41] <ScottK> We also have omaque that needs libkde4-ruby1.8, libokular-ruby1.8
[16:42] <yofel> that's korundum from bindings. It's in the PPA
[16:43] <ScottK> OK.  Now that the kdebindings source is removed, we'll need to get that uploaded so they aren't NBS.
[16:44] <yofel> the packaging page is becoming a PITA to clean :S
[16:45]  * ScottK suggests making a copy of the cleaned matrix and keeping it somewhere, then it's just copy/paste/done
[16:46] <yofel> agreed
[16:48] <shadeslayer> ScottK: waiting on upstream to fix indi drivers
[16:49] <shadeslayer> i did manage to build libindi and one driver
[16:49] <shadeslayer> everything else is FTBFS on oneiric, have sent logs to upstream dev
[16:51] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Is libindi and one driver enough to get it in the archive so we can update kstars?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> well, kinda, libindi itself should be enough, but you need the drivers to do any actual work
[16:53] <ScottK> Right, so if you could go ahead with the update, then kstars wouldn't have to be blocked.
[16:53] <ScottK> Do keep on the upstream about the rest though.
[16:55] <shadeslayer> in that case, please review the 2 indi packages in the ninjas ppa
[16:56] <yofel> !ninjas
[16:56] <yofel> get to work ;)
[16:57]  * yofel takes kdelibs
[17:04] <markey> ScottK: you pinged me? I'm at home now
[17:06] <ScottK> markey: I mailed amarok-devel instead.
[17:06] <ScottK> markey: but I didn't solve the problem yet.
[17:06] <ScottK> markey: Trying to build amarok 2.4.1 with KDE 4.7 and it fails.
[17:06] <ScottK> markey: http://paste.debian.net/123768/ is the error.
[17:07] <ScottK> Suggestions?
[17:10]  * markey looks
[17:11] <markey> ah, the ScriptEngine
[17:11] <markey> constant sorrow
[17:11] <ScottK> The one suggestion I got from my mail was fiddling the version check in src/context/scriptengine/javascript/bind_dataengine.h
[17:11] <markey> ScottK: thanks for emailing amarok-devel ML, we will look at it
[17:12] <ScottK> I tried each way I can think of for that with no luck.
[17:12] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:23] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 366 * debian/ (changelog libkio5.symbols) New upstrem release
[17:29] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/meta-kde] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control rules) bump to 4.7.0 and resync with archive
[17:35] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/gsoc-phonon-qml-iteration2-meego/
[17:48] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/ (changelog smoke-dev-tools.install) New upstrem release
[18:25] <yofel> ScottK: do we need symbol files for the bindings? (please say no...)
[18:25] <ScottK> No.
[18:26] <yofel> good
[18:38] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 4 * debian/changelog New upstrem release
[18:38] <apachelogger> rbelem, ScottK: so, what do we do about plasma mobile/active builds? we'll need special branches of kdelibs and runtime atleast 
[18:38] <apachelogger> package the snapshots separately?
[18:39] <apachelogger> I guess for libs we could patch it in though ... AFAIK the changes are only limited to the experimental libraries
[18:54] <ScottK> If it's just experimental, patching might make sense.
[19:05] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 134 * debian/ (changelog libakonadi-kde4.symbols) New upstrem release
[19:11] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Philip Muškovac * 135 * debian/control fix build-dep on kde-sc-dev-latest
[19:16] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 82 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release
[19:31] <ScottK> The changes I made yesterday shaved 5MB off the CD.
[19:31] <ScottK> Need moar
[19:41] <muntiKubu> what's that news in kubuntu.org about 4.7 RC1 available for oneiric? Is this  a typo since RC2 has been out for sometime?
[19:42] <muntiKubu> and RC1 has been for quite a while?
[19:43] <yofel> there were things missing from rc1 and there simply was no announcement yet. We don't have any rc2 packages
[19:45] <ScottK> muntiKubu: Upstream KDE made major changes to how they distribute KDE in 4.7.  It took a lot of work to adapt to it, so we've skipped RC2.
[19:49] <muntiKubu> ah..I know 4.6.90 has been in the repo for sometime and the announcement kinda took me like "did they mean 4.6.95"
[19:51] <muntiKubu> ScottK: thanks for all your hard work. 
[19:52] <ScottK> Parts of it have been.
[19:52] <ScottK> We only got all of it the archive in the last day or so.
[19:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Philip Muškovac * 183 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release
[20:00] <rbelem> apachelogger, i think patching is ok
[20:01] <apachelogger> patchy peachy poochie
[20:01] <rbelem> apachelogger, should we get all patches from those branches?
[20:01]  * apachelogger gets the booze so he'll be properly wasted for his bday
[20:02] <apachelogger> rbelem: all patches?
[20:14] <rbelem> apachelogger, i mean all the patches that are not in the master :-D
[20:21] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 529 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstrem release
[20:25] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 72 * debian/ (changelog control) new upstrem release
[20:35] <bambee> mhh Ben Cooksley was a bit nervous when he wrote in email to kde-core and gnome ML... (however, I understand his position)
[20:35] <bambee> s/in/a/
[20:35] <kubotu> bambee meant: "mhh Ben Cooksley was a bit nervous when he wrote a email to kde-core and gnome ML... (however, I understand his position)"
[20:36] <ScottK> bambee: Did you see about the bug we got on the topic.
[20:36] <ScottK> (backscroll)
[20:36] <bambee> yes I did (your reply)
[20:38] <bambee> that's seriously a stupid situation, I mean "systemsettings" exists in kde since... what? kde 2.x ?
[20:39] <bambee> (or it was kconfig...
[20:39] <bambee> )
[20:39] <bambee> I don't remember...
[20:39] <apachelogger> rbelem: yes, well, if they are in fact limited to the experimental stuff
[20:39] <apachelogger> I'd rather not risk breakage due to patching
[20:39] <apachelogger> which entirely reminded me of the qa blog I should be finishing
[20:40] <apachelogger> sheytan: any mockups?
[20:40] <apachelogger> sheytan: general question... should the controls fade out or move down on hiding?
[20:41] <apachelogger> I think fade looks better, form what I tried
[20:45] <bambee> ScottK: is there another post on gnome ML about that ? (except this one)
[20:45] <ScottK> That's all I know of.
[20:45] <ScottK> I don't follow Gnome ML at all.
[20:48] <ScottK> Apparently the tone of the mail was too harsh for the delicate ears of Gnome developers, so I'm not sure even this one made it to their lists.
[20:48] <ScottK> Maybe someone who knows someone that blogs on planet Gnome ought to get them to blog on this so that they will know.
[20:49] <apachelogger> either they are crying or they are bitching in private now
[20:59] <ScottK> apachelogger: What do you think about the idea of making gtk2-engines-oxygen NOT depend on gtk2.  It will only ever get used if some other package that needs gtk2 gets installed and that gets gtk2 off the CD?
[21:00] <ScottK> Since there's no Taco man around to object, I think I will.
[21:00] <yofel> sounds reasonable
[21:01] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:01] <ScottK> Actually it looks like it is meant to do this already: dh_makeshlibs -X/usr/lib/gtk-2.0
[21:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: please do, I was thinking about that earlier when debfx and I were looking into cd size and wanted to wait for the taco, but since he is not so much available just go ahead :)
[21:02] <ScottK> I got X changed to gtk3 should be off the CD tomorrow.
[21:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: also IIRC the appmenu gtj stuff has some gtk/pango/whatever deps that should be evaluted
[21:03] <ScottK> Might be.
[21:05] <ScottK> to/so
[21:25] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim] Philip Muškovac * 169 * debian/ (changelog control kmail.install) New upstrem release
[21:29] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkexiv2] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:32] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkipi] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[21:32] <ScottK> I think I got gtk2-engines-oxygen figured out.
[21:40] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/marble] Philip Muškovac * 11 * debian/ (changelog control libmarblewidget12.symbols) New upstream release
[21:55] <yofel> NOTE: I still need someone to test kdevelop from ninjas for natty.
[21:55] <yofel> and someone could upload the oneiric packages.
[21:59] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalgebra] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[22:06] <apachelogger> whisky <3
[22:07] <ScottK> This reminds me I need to go to the store.
[22:12] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kalzium] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/ (not-installed changelog control) New upstream release and add manpage to not-installed
[22:50] <birthdaylogger> yofel: move kdev to staging and drop a mail about it
[22:51] <yofel> good idea
[22:51]  * yofel wants to hit the okteta maintainer for moving his headers around all the time in the meanwhile
[22:53] <birthdaylogger> yofel: drop a mail about that too then
[22:53] <yofel> nah, he moved them for rc1, and it seems he moved them back for final again
[22:54] <yofel> should hopefully make kdevlop build with 4.7 again without a patch actually
[22:56]  * yofel needs to write kcleanppa -.-
[22:57] <birthdaylogger> I like how you need to write stuffz yourself cause lp is so limited :S
[22:57] <yofel> yeah, is a 'select all' checkbox really too much to ask? :/
[22:58] <birthdaylogger> pparentlya
[22:58] <yofel> ^^
[23:03] <bambee> birthdaylogger: it's your birthday?
[23:08] <birthdaylogger> me passport sez so at least
[23:08]  * yofel hugs birthdaylogger
[23:08] <yofel> Happy Brithday :D
[23:09] <birthdaylogger> thx :)
[23:18] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdesdk] Philip Muškovac * 140 * debian/ (changelog control okteta-dev.install) New upstream release
[23:35] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 9 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[23:40] <CIA-52> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/cantor] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release