[00:00] its gnome btw [00:00] for ubuntu that is [00:00] :) [00:00] Guest28958: Gnome with Unity shell [00:00] Ok thanks. [00:00] Guest28958: it depends the flavor. Ubuntu Desktop uses Unity, Kubuntu KDE [00:01] So why do you guys use Kubuntu , ive never really looked into it. [00:01] ? [00:01] !info hold [00:01] Package hold does not exist in natty [00:01] what should i use instead [00:01] i got rid of it and that didnt work [00:01] oops, apt-get hold [00:01] ? [00:01] Guest28958: I'm using it as KDE is for me more user friendly and much nicer imho [00:02] Ah [00:02] Ill have a look [00:02] its true KDE works beautifully [00:02] erikdecker: I don't see that option in the man page [00:02] ok just wondering [00:02] The problem i often have with Ubuntu is, you spend hours trying to figure out a lot of things like installing packages from zips, using the terminal all the time ect... [00:03] i can get my head round it eventually, its just time consuming though [00:03] meh [00:03] im trying to enable ipod syncing and thats part of it... [00:03] thats what it said on the help page [00:03] does gtkpod not do the job ? [00:03] insteresting that option 'hold'. never used it [00:04] i dont even know the point [00:04] haha [00:04] from the 'man': --ignore-hold [00:04] Ignore package Holds; This causes apt-get to ignore a hold placed on a package. This may be useful in conjunction with dist-upgrade to override a large number of undesired holds. Configuration Item: APT::Ignore-Hold. [00:05] i should use that then? [00:06] guys, why when I have mount of my win partition (NTSF) in fstab it doesnt mount it after reboot, I cannot see it in the folder I'm mounting it to until I do sudo mount -a [00:06] erikdecker: check this -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1697255.html [00:07] thats were i got the help from it doesnt work thought [00:09] erikdecker: http://goo.gl/5I6sJ [00:09] check the most up to date post [00:10] erikdecker: instead of apt-get hold I found this to work better http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-prevent-a-package-from-being-updated-in-ubuntu.html [00:11] Snooffy: following by the book? [00:11] YES! [00:11] thank you [00:11] Snooffy: good place. better understand from the source because it depends an each installation on how to configure it - > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [00:12] erikdecker: see??? Mr and Ms Google are still the beast [00:12] i mean, best [00:12] well i never thought of that. i did try google. [00:13] lcb: thanks for a good tip... will need to read a bit :D [00:13] Snooffy: would be better. it's easy to understand from there [00:15] it is.. This is what i love on linux, the documentation is so complex, you can find your answers to almost any problem... [00:17] Snooffy: that one is basically what we all need to know for auto mounting [00:18] that page is at least easier to understand than the fstab manpage... [00:18] indeed [00:19] Snooffy: btw, don't play too much with GIRLS. that was only an aborted case scenario [00:19] :p [00:24] lcb: lol [00:24] :) [00:26] can someone help me install java on kubuntu lol [00:27] TimeLord_: start by removing what you have and install the default jre [00:28] whats the package names for defualt jre? [00:28] firefox and so on will tell you if you miss anything, in meantime [00:28] default-jre [00:29] thanks [00:29] :) [00:30] most problems comes from over installing java runtimes [00:32] yeah [00:32] :P [00:33] TimeLord_: a tip: run Get and Remove Software and insert in the text box -> java [00:39] thanks lcb === jason is now known as Guest61011 [00:39] quick question, where do i extract icons in kde? [00:39] TimeLord_: welcome === ]-[uNTeR^Ki||eR is now known as ]-[K [00:43] Guest61011: /usr/share/icons but you could plave it anywhere [00:43] place it... === ironfroggy_ is now known as Guest24034 === AnGell is now known as f453 [02:15] I am having a problem configuring a usb hard drive for my network [02:44] k === default is now known as Guest20826 [02:45] can some dell me how to delete a directory in konsole. rmdir is not working n su. the stupid command can't handle .hidden files. [02:47] you should use sudo [02:48] sudo rm -rf dir [02:48] but right-click > move to trash should work as well [02:48] unless you don't have the right permissions [02:49] is this in your ~ ? [03:07] thanks valorie. the problem was teh rmdir not being sophisticated enough. rm worked. [03:08] cool [03:20] I can't see the file sharing tab under sharing, anyone got the fix? === maxim is now known as Guest14529 [05:14] hello guys [05:14] testing out kubuntu === ubuntu____ is now known as solomonic === solomonic is now known as solo === ocs is now known as faLUCE [06:40] hi. Is there an editor which allows to insert words only if the follow a user-defined grammar? [06:57] Anyone here know anything about Computer clusters? [07:17] Hi people what's the best way to convert .sub to .srt using the command line? [07:28] gnome-subtitles for ubuntu, perhaps fatrat-opensubtitles for kde4 [07:28] whoops [07:45] hi all [07:47] what is the easiest way to use multiply distros with the SAME home directory? the situation is i have kubuntu now but wanna have both ubuntu and fedore with gnome3 environment too [07:48] oh, friend of mine made a blog post about that [07:48] let me dig it up [07:48] thanks [07:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1430397 <--- this is good because it's a whole discussion [07:50] basically, you should shared DATA, not home dirs [07:50] share [07:51] each ~/home will have their own settings, etc., and then you symlink to photos, music, docs, etc. [07:52] ok, thats what i exactly want thanks a loot [07:52] *lot [07:52] so reinstall:) [07:52] have fun! [07:53] for a few hours I deinetely will [07:54] the whole issu is cos kubuntu can't reboot, dies too many times even the machine is goo [07:54] d [07:54] hmmm [07:54] I've had no problems [07:54] I've been running kubuntu for years [07:56] well, I used ubuntu before and on my old rusty laptop 9.10 is more stable then 11.04 kubi on this. Even I only can tur it off pressing the power button, otherwise dims and freezes [07:57] neverthless amarok and a few other features are dman good [07:57] *damned === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [08:02] so to keep kubuntu and the data, i will just need to move the docs, etc. to a separate data partition and then install all the other distros on new separate partitions and use the same wap for all? [08:02] *swap [08:04] that will work -- but you will want to put symlinks into each /home for /Documents, /Music, etc. [08:04] or whatever you want [08:05] ok, how do i do that? [08:08] !symlink [08:08] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [08:08] it's one of the two basic ways of making a link [08:09] yes... [08:09] sure, i use terminal [08:10] I don't know of a GUI way to make symlinks [08:10] is this a multi language support chat? [08:10] if there is one [08:11] francais, portugues, magyar here [08:16] !fr | excognac [08:16] excognac: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [08:17] no, it's not for me, I understand english i just offered help [08:17] oops, sorry [08:18] and he left [08:18] :( [08:19] so how do i use symlink to reach the data partition? [08:22] http://ss64.com/bash/symlink.html for some more information === erikja is now known as OZ4KK [08:33] aye, that helps I appreciate your efforts valorie, ty [08:34] I hope it works well for you [08:35] I'm happy with kubuntu; don't even have windows anymore [08:35] so no need for your solutions [09:05] hi ! === jason is now known as Guest92308 [09:55] hello, quick question, where do i install icons in kde? [11:06] hey [11:07] hello engrjc [11:07] hi almigi [11:13] Who can recommend the best FTP client for kubuntu? Save me installing a couple to test them out [11:14] !best | hazamonzo [11:14] hazamonzo: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [11:15] szal: Sure. Im just looking for a recommendation :) [11:16] hazamonzo: srsly, ask 3 users and you get 4 opinions ;) [11:16] especially when it comes to FTP servers [11:17] what about kftp? [11:18] szal: :) [11:20] hazamonzo: why not just dolphin? [11:20] James147: Good thinking. I use fish:// [11:20] Never thought about ftp:// :D [11:20] James147: Good call. Cheers! [11:22] hazamonzo: also, why not use sftp instead of fish (assuming your server supports sftp... which most do) [11:23] James147: Most of the time for my servers i like to use scp [11:31] * szal used to use Krusader for FTP, but nowadays it's mostly FileZilla due to it being able to limit transfer bandwidth [11:32] szal: filezilla! Thats the one i used to use for windows [11:32] can i get it for kubuntu? [11:32] sure, it's in the package sources [11:33] szal: Didn't realise that. Cheers [12:10] Hello. I'm new to Kubuntu. What are "activities" ? [12:24] grobda24: activities are a way of grouping tasks togeather... they behave similarly to vitrual desktop except you can have different wallpapers/widgets on different activities and you are able to start/stop activities (along with the programs running on them) [12:42] hi, do you know if is there a text editor in which I can insert words in real time through a script ? [12:43] faLUCE: I think kate can ^^ if not it has plugin support so shouldnt be to hard to make it [12:44] faLUCE: if all else fails you can use vim in its server/client model :D === u07077 is now known as Guillem_ [12:59] James147: let's try but I would have preferred a simpler editor ;-) [13:00] faLUCE: you want a simple editor to do a complicated function?... think that defeats the point of it being simple... [13:03] how do i logout a user from kdm from the command line?my need is to have a cronjob which will logout a user from kdm..any hint on this? [13:04] vikapi, pkill -KILL -u {username} >> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-logout-user-howto/ [13:05] OerHeks: ^^ though that isnt graceful :) [13:06] OerHeks: but tat logout a user from kde? [13:06] James147, what do you suggest ? [13:06] James147: yes..but im ok with it.. [13:07] unity-like dock for kde? [13:07] OerHeks: dbus should beable to [13:08] James147: dbus throws a prompt window in the GUI? [13:13] vikapi: didnt for me :) === rig is now known as riglet [13:29] Hello. When I enable some applications to minimize to tray icon I cannot restore those application back. Window flashes and disapperars. Please help [13:30] Bright example is transmission UI [13:35] James147, thanks ... so it's a little like a layer that I can put over the desktop that represents the task I'm doing at that time ? [13:38] oh wait, it determines what apps are running ? Is there a documentation page for this ? [13:49] hi guys , I was looking a tork package on the repos , but I can't find it , it is normal or maybe I have some problem with the official repos !?! [14:11] Hi, I wondering. How do I get HDMI output working. It seems like my TV get some kind of signal, but its just black on the screen. [14:23] Wow, got this running really nice now. I was last in KDE pre 2003. Faster now I've turned off desktop effects, and looks better without them (because faster maybe?) [14:24] Only prob I have now is that I added a CPU widget to the panel. It gave a message about being unable to set transparency. but now I can't remove it. There is just a blank space next to the clock that I can't get rid of. === buntu is now known as buntu_ === buntu_ is now known as buntu === maxx is now known as Guest55147 [15:33] hi guys I need an help to set up a proxy on my Kubuntu 11.04 , someone can help me !?! [15:36] AlexZion: a proxy for what? [15:37] to be anonymous in certain situation.... [15:42] how can i install windows media Audio 8 plugin for amarok? [15:43] hi poeple.. my computer has been assigned a static ip form our network administrator, I am using kubuntu 11.04 is there a way to make it automatically use this ip and so I do not always have to klick on the connection after every reboot in knetworkmanager? [15:43] I hope 4.7 will be in backports ppa for natty by july 29 :D I want to have it when going to the release party :D [15:48] howlymowly: Yes, there is. You can set your static details in /etc/network/interfaces. [15:48] BajK: we'll see, final just got tagged so we'll get to work now. It'll be much less work than rc1 at least [15:49] howlymowly: You can get the details of that file using "man interfaces". [15:49] DarthFrog: DarthFrog thx I'll look into that [15:49] DarthFrog: do I haveto remove the network manager then? [15:49] or somehow stop it? [15:50] howlymowly: I shouldn't think so. [16:00] yofel: nice to hear since there have been no pre-final 4.7 releases for kubuntu :) === bambee_ is now known as bambee [16:10] a question. how is it possible to install a new theme in kubuntu natty? [16:11] i'm quite new to kubuntu. [16:12] #j kubuntu-it [16:47] On reboot... Kubuntu / Xorg forgets my multiple monitor setup. How can I save my configuration over reboots? [16:54] hiyas [16:55] what_if: for that reason I made xrandr scripts and assigend them to hotkeys. Good for laptops. [17:02] jtheuer: Will try generating an Xorg.conf and see if that works. :) Will try xrandr scripts if that does not work [17:02] jtheuer: thanks for the help :0 [17:02] :) [17:26] why is chmod applied after the samba config file is writen instead of applying the chmod within the samba config when the share is identified [17:32] is it possible to have the k-menu plasma bigger? [17:32] how? [17:34] Ab3l_: ? === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE [17:34] you mean on the destkop or in the panel ? [17:35] Peace-: well, when you click on the K, a kickoff menu opens. I would like to have it higher, so that to list more items [17:36] i know i can scroll down, but i would like to see more items without need to scroll [17:36] i see [17:37] i guess there is not a change to get it [17:37] i guess [17:37] anyway [17:37] there is a classical menu... [17:37] right click on the K menu switch to classicmenu [17:38] no way. the new one is much beautiful and powerfull. [17:38] i see... i guess you have to give up [17:39] :) i have ever seen what you want on the menu [17:47] Hi, I need help for kubuntu 11.04 [17:48] Robert200: what's your problem man ? [17:49] movil broadband tab is unavilitated [17:50] usb pcmica pci ? [17:52] not sure about what tha means, but yeah its a usb modem huawey e160 picture: http://www.rfwel.com/images/modem_usb_huawei_e160.jpg [17:56] its not a pcmica pci [17:56] Robert200: reading [17:56] Robert200: it's usb [17:56] it should be from the picutre [17:56] -.- [17:56] picture [17:56] so lsusb [17:57] on konsole [17:57] Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [17:57] lsusb wont list usb devices [17:57] i need to undestand which device you have [17:58] so or lspci [17:58] its there a way to do that while in windows_?? [17:58] Robert200: sorry but know in italy it's time to eat something [17:58] bye [17:59] bye [18:02] Robert200: Maybe I can help. What problem are you having? [18:02] thanks barkingfish [18:04] well i recently installed kubuntu by wubi inside win7, 11.04 release, and it has the movil bradband connection tab unavailable [18:04] my kubuntu won't retain shared HD settings after reboot, any ideas? [18:05] therefore i cant connect through my Huawei E160 modem [18:05] Robert200: Your mobile broadband, it's connected through a USB stick? [18:05] yes [18:06] I notice you said you couldn't list your usb devices - you can't get lsusb to work? [18:08] Try this, open a terminal program, Robert200, konsole is good for this - and type: lsusb [18:08] thats also right, im quite new in linux, however i did a little research, but failed, one of the instruccions i read was to use the lsusb command, however it will not work, it should (as fas as i understand) list the usb divices but it will not [18:08] if you hit enter, and nothing shows up, try: sudo lsusb (and put in your password after you hit enter) [18:09] please hold a minute, ill try booting it from virtualbox, right now im using windows so that i can connect to the internet [18:09] ok === ubuntu____ is now known as orys [18:10] hello [18:12] sorry i have fail to open it in virtualbox, do you know of any program compatible with the virtualhdd format that kubuntu uses? [18:15] Anyone else available to assist Robert200 please? I don't know anything at all about virtualbox or dual booting kubuntu with something else. [18:15] Robert200: the formats only used by virtualbox [18:15] BarkingFish: if someone knows they will answer HIS question, you don't have to re-ask it for him [18:15] hm [18:15] so there is some live here tonight [18:16] orys: normally if you ask a question, people respond [18:16] ikonia: normally if you say "hello", people respond :-) [18:17] orys: no, as people would just be saying "hello" all the time as people come and go as it's a reasonably high throughput channel [18:17] ikonia: Sorry. I saw the other channel (#ubuntu) tell people off for having 4 or 5 assisting one person at the same time. I asked for someone else to help because I started to, then realised I couldn't. [18:17] I didn't re-ask his question. [18:18] so there is my question: My system don't want to get up, I can't see grub or nothing, so I don't know why, I have no time, so wanted to do reinstall and I can't because intallator can't see my hdd where I have my system. [18:18] orys: ok - so that sounds like your hard disk has a problem at a hardware level [18:18] ikonia: been here before, and people were saying hello, but i guess this is not discussion for that one. [18:18] orys: is this 1 hard disks, or any sort of raid system ? [18:18] ikonia: no, as I now run live CD and I can work on that hard drive no propblem [18:19] ikonia: I have two physical Sata discs, don't ask me complicated questions, as I don't know what's raid I am afraid ;-) [18:19] orys: are you on the livecd now ? [18:19] i had that problem to with ubuntu [18:19] ikonia: yes. [18:19] kubuntu, last one. [18:19] orys: could you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" into a pastebin please [18:19] 10.04, the screen will blackout while inside the os [18:20] ikonia: It will take a while, it's sooo bloody slow... [18:20] ok, console is open... :P [18:22] ikonia: http://paste.kde.org/100237/, lots is in Polish, but I guess you can see the most important === sergio_ is now known as Guest31830 [18:23] orys: ok - so which of those hard disks is your machine set to boot from ? [18:24] ikonia: sda usually, I can see it starts from sda1, where windows is installed [18:24] usually there should be grub menu, but after last update I can't see it as my screen says "input out of range" [18:24] orys: ok - so the issue is a video config issue [18:24] I googled for the problem, asked here, did not managed to find solution so ignored as the system was starting up no problem and I don't use windows any more... [18:25] your screen resolution goes out of the specs of your display [18:25] Robert200: but if I run live CD and then shut it down, I can see text mode closing messages no problem. [18:26] the screeen is pretty good. [18:26] orys: the livecd is not your install, so it's config is different that your installs [18:26] yeah couse livecd uses a failsafe resolution [18:26] orys: he's not saying the screen is broke, the config goes out of range of the monitor [18:27] ikonia: yeah, I know, but my old screen was saying that input is too high and was giving me the resolution, now I have new one, and this one should support the resolution which is given by the system according to the old screen, but now it seems too high for that one as well. [18:27] As if the system just pick "one level too high for the current monitor" [18:27] you need to find a way, to chane your resolution and refresing rate to one that your screen can handle, [18:28] anyway, got any idea how to solve the problem? Then maybe I would be able to see what's wrong with my system that it does not starts [18:28] orys: it's a bug - it's picking the wrong config, it doesn't mean it won't work with your monitor, it means it's selecting an unsupported version [18:28] Robert200: yeah, I know, but I have no idea what's wrong. [18:28] orys: you'll find it is starting, you just can't see it because the monitor is not syncing [18:28] orys: there are two issues, one the plymouth configuration resolution, and the xorg resolution [18:28] ikonia: yeah, it used to be like that. It was starting "behind the scenes" then when X server was up I had my system running no problem [18:29] orys: are you on the livecd now ? [18:30] orys: can you mount your hard disk and look in the directory /etc for a file called xorg.conf - do this on your hard disk, NOT on the /etc directory of the livecd [18:33] damn === ubuntu____ is now known as orys_ [18:33] I dropped out at 18:30:23, did I missed anything? [18:34] orys: can you mount your hard disk and look in the directory /etc for a file called xorg.conf - do this on your hard disk, NOT on the /etc directory of the livecd [18:34] ikonia: ok [18:34] i am on my way :P [18:37] hi there, im asking for help again, for my problem, movil broadbad tab is unavailable(configure-kde control module), while using kubuntu 11.04, fell free to see a screen shot: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UzMYMg6Mp5K-O3DOnEX6-j2OJBqRfLRvci4Cc2gBcjg?feat=directlink [18:38] ikonia: there is none in /etc, but there is one in /etc/X11 and it looks like that http://paste.kde.org/100255/ so I guess not much in it really. AFAICR there was more [18:39] orys_: sorry, that was my typo, I did mean /etc/X11 [18:39] orys_: what video card do you have ? [18:39] so I had good guess that it should be there, but I was thinking I was wrong. [18:39] ikonia: nvidia something :P [18:40] ikonia: my problem is that I don't really know much about my computer, as it was usually working no problem, or at least on acceptable level. [18:40] it's like with the car, as long as I don't need to open the bonnet I am happy. [18:40] orys_: ok so lets put you to a failsafe state [18:40] orys_: if you edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and add the line "driver "vesa" " [18:40] and if I have to open, I can only tell you "well, there is SOME engine here". So that's me with computers as well. [18:40] so it's driver "vesa" [18:40] ikonia: just anywhere? [18:41] under the "nologo" line [18:41] ok [18:42] ikonia: what next? Just to start boot it from hdd now? [18:43] orys_: give it a go, that should fix your X11 issue [18:43] ok, so see you later [18:43] I mean after reboot [18:52] hi, i have a problem, movil broadband tab is disabled in kubuntu 11.04 please help... pic: hi there, im asking for help again, for my problem, movil broadbad tab is unavailable(configure-kde control module), while using kubuntu 11.04, fell free to see a screen shot: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UzMYMg6Mp5K-O3DOnEX6-j2OJBqRfLRvci4Cc2gBcjg?feat=directlink [18:58] hi [19:02] [14:58:10] hi [19:02] [14:58:23] <-- chilledscorpion (~quassel@182.178.113.246) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:02] -.- [19:04] hellou [19:05] necesito un buen explorador [19:06] yeah, c'est moi again. [19:06] No result. [19:06] Also tried just to install new grub [19:07] no result as well. [19:07] I have to say I am fed up with that [19:07] re-installing grub won't do anything [19:07] Do you think I can just install new system over the old one [19:07] I can't see that doing anything [19:07] without formatting the partition [19:07] no [19:07] to save my /home settings? [19:07] all important stuff I got on the other one. [19:07] you can put /home on a different partition if you want to save it [19:08] ok, that's the thought [19:08] now, I need explanation./ [19:08] what went wrong with that kubuntu [19:08] I use it for years and it was always working, except from one case my internet connection broke during dist upgrade [19:08] but I patched it up somehow and it was fine [19:08] now every new one is worse [19:08] It was all working week ago [19:09] then I've been to Norway [19:09] updates can do that [19:09] then I am back and it don't want to start [19:09] ikonia: there was no update [19:09] noone was turning the computer on for the week. [19:09] So unless it was during last update and somehow it started before and now it don't [19:09] orys: so what's happened to change this ? [19:09] I have no idea. [19:09] ikonia: that's my question. [19:10] David Copperfield was messing something around? [19:10] I don't know :D [19:10] But I am fed up. [19:10] in good old times even if update broke someithin [19:10] orys: so even with xorg.conf in place you don't get anything ? [19:10] next couple of days (or hours) there was another one and problem was fixed [19:10] that was brilliant system for someone like me who did not liked to do anything [19:10] and now it's crap :( [19:11] i am even starting to think about buying Windows, all that after 11 years on Linux :( [19:11] ok - is there any chance you could stop with the self pity complaining [19:11] go back to windows any more [19:11] I'm trying to help you and you are more interested in moaning [19:11] ikonia: I don't know if it changed anything as I can't see anything, it's out of range. [19:11] :-) [19:11] good luck [19:12] ouch, touchy... [19:12] not really, just don't take kindly to self pity ranting when I'm giving my time to help you [19:12] orys: he's not being touchy. everyone here is donating their time, and complaining doesn't help anything [19:13] ^Case in point [19:13] ikonia: I get carried too much, but my point was that I tried to solve the problem before with help of people from that channel and they failed, so I wonder if it's the point to fight ith that (and waste your time) or if I shoudl just reinstall system, [19:13] well, good luck [19:13] as I can reinstall it myself, but then the problem will might be there again [19:13] so I ask your advice if you think there is a point in reinstalling [19:14] orys: if you can boot from a LiveCD or whatnot, then you can backup your /home. Once you've done that, you can boot up a GParted, and completely reformat the drives [19:14] or if there is something more to be done. [19:14] Linkmaster: hm, that what I thinking, I got all important stuff on the other hard drive [19:14] but question is: is there any chance, that after reinstall the problem will be gone, or it will just reinstall the syustem exactly the same way? [19:15] You can probably get away with just reformatting / and not /home as well [19:15] Its an X11 issue, correct? [19:15] Linkmaster: have no idea, the problem was only during the system coming up, what used to be in text mode was invisible due to "out of range" [19:15] the KDE was running no problem [19:16]