[04:25] laptop is toast nuvolari? [04:25] i tried xubuntu on a neighbours laptop, it boots the setup but always hangs at random spots. this thing is ancient, cdrom drive doesnt work, its horrid lol [05:59] kbmonkey: there's a krrrr sound, an has random pauses without the activity light showing anything [05:59] krrrr? is that the disk making noises? [06:00] with old hw, it helps to reseat cables. they come loose after years of heating/cooling expanding/shrinking [06:02] kbmonkey: I'm not sure whether it's the disk :P I need to check, It was late and I was tired :P [06:08] morning nlsthzn [06:09] hi nlsthzn [06:09] Hey nuvolari :) What's up... (alo kbmonkey :D) [06:09] sjoe, dont know why i woke up so early, 6am -.- [06:10] how goes it with all? [06:10] * nlsthzn is awake but fuzzy... time for shower me thinks... bbl :) [06:20] kbmonkey: I walk out my front door at 6am [06:21] lol [06:21] used to waking 7am, 1 hour makes a difference when you go to bed between 00 and 01am [06:22] i have a problem going to bed early, i get stuck reading a book :p [06:25] hi milos === milos is now known as Guest9999 [06:26] morning superfly kbmonkey and others [06:26] hello Guest9999 [06:26] loll [06:27] what happened to your nick? [06:27] dunno === Guest9999 is now known as kilos [06:33] grrrr [06:33] oh your nick was milos not kilos, it probably changed it for you [06:33] the bot open a pw to give a message and i couldnt get awawy from there [06:33] Kilos: yes, cause you had the wrong nick [06:34] is this on jedirc? [06:34] oh them you stick with maaz [06:34] now on pc [06:34] grrr [06:34] me needs an xchat fo fones [06:36] Maaz, coffee on [06:36] * Maaz puts the kettle on [06:38] in the two profiles i did before i got jed working i made nick milos at one [06:38] now if i go into profiles i can edit but not save changes [06:38] grrr some more [06:39] oh deaer [06:39] lol [06:40] and also get the option to create new profiles but not delete/remove old ones [06:40] grrrr some more [06:40] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [06:40] Maaz, dankie man [06:40] Groot plesier my vriend [06:41] hmm, i can't install jedirc, my scrolly pointer thingy on phone doesnt work, i cant click the install link :p [06:41] grrrr [06:42] eish [06:43] murphy visiting all of us [06:44] good old uncle murphy [06:44] i see there is a .jar and a .jar file to download i took the top one. whats the diffs or should i get both for all functions [06:45] i think they do the same [06:45] murphy's law [06:46] as jy kan sukkel , sal jy [06:46] the jad is the application package, and the jar is like a manifest file [06:46] and murphy is an optimist [06:46] manifest? [06:47] a manifest tells us extra info about an application, but in j2me (mobile java) apps a manifest isnt always needed [06:47] make the save button appear? [06:47] hehe [06:47] i think some phones (liek symbian ones) need the manifest. im not sure. nuvolari is the java guy i think :) [06:48] i only did a little bit of java. i prefer to drink it than write it [06:48] this 9300i is symbian [06:48] nuvolari, is the java specialist [06:49] unless struggling withs dads pc debrained him [06:50] grrrrr. let me los this phone now. he he [06:52] hehe [06:53] but one thing about them. they are very very data efficient [06:53] would love this pc to be so thrifty [07:05] Kilos: actually, you're quoting the pessimistic law, murphy's law was slightly different [07:05] lol [07:05] ya [07:06] that shows the odds of winning if murphy was an optimist [07:08] murphy's law of Windows: any given program will expand to fill all available memory [07:08] môre Langjan [07:09] hi kilos [07:09] more Langjan [07:09] how do you get that accent o Kilos? [07:09] and kbmonkey [07:09] huh? [07:10] ek wil ook so o maak [07:10] bobbejaantjies se huh... [07:10] compose key then shift 6 then o [07:10] hehe [07:10] haha [07:10] ô [07:10] \o/ [07:10] gaan dit goed daar Langjan [07:11] dankie oom! [07:11] ô? [07:11] w00t [07:11] \ô/ [07:11] hehe [07:11] ỏ [07:11] guys can you help please, where do I find the application to force-quit a misbehaving application? [07:12] dit gaan goed met die ou toppie dankie [07:12] Langjan, press Alt+F2 and type 'xkill'. [07:12] Langjan: press ctrl+alt+esc and then click on the advert [07:12] your mouse will turn into a black cross, click on the window you want to kill [07:12] i just keep trying to close and the force quit comes up on its own [07:13] I used to have an icon to click on - very easy but dont know where I found it... [07:15] http://www.ubuntu-news.net/2010/07/29/add-a-force-quit-button-to-ubuntu/ [07:15] hope thats it [07:15] thanks, will check === milos is now known as Guest13813 [07:37] grrr [07:38] m wonders why it does that [07:38] maybe someone else has that nick [07:39] have you registered that nick Kilos ? [07:39] you can do a /msg nickserv info [name] [07:40] thats it kilos, just right click on the panel, then add to panel and force quit. Thanks [07:46] layw [07:46] lol [07:46] whew [07:46] will try that kbmonkey [07:49] oh my [07:50] i find left right arrows moves differejnt channels [07:51] it tells me nickserv- Milos has enabled nick protection [07:51] ah, that would change you to guest### unless you identify with your irc password [07:52] now i gotta work out how to register kilosm [07:52] grrrt [07:52] I just learned that /opt is for installing optional apps :) [07:53] can one register from here? [07:54] yes you register here. i see you already registered kilos [07:54] methinks last time i actually went to freenode [07:55] since you already registered, you dont need to register a second nick. you can simply link it to your existing account :) [07:56] that way you log in only once, and can switch nicks at will [07:56] but you can only link nicks that are not owned by anybody else [07:57] ok can you see if kilosm is please? [07:58] or how do i link nicks from here? [07:58] lo morgs [07:58] morning! [08:00] okay lets check kilos [08:01] kilosm is not registered [08:01] yay [08:01] so if you want it, you change to that nick (/nick kilosm) [08:01] gotta go off fone first hay [08:01] and then you group it into your current account (/msg nickserv group) [08:02] no [08:02] aw === Kilos is now known as Kilosm [08:04] what did it do [08:04] hello Kilosm :) [08:05] hello kbmonkey [08:05] did you group? [08:05] i did the /msg nickserv geoup [08:05] group [08:05] and it said here nickserv: group [08:05] those two nicks now belong to your account, you can use them both [08:06] oh my [08:06] ty so much === Kilosm is now known as Kilos [08:07] Maaz, coffee on [08:07] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:09] Maaz, coffee asseblief! [08:09] kbmonkey: Excuse me? [08:09] Maaz, koffie please [08:09] kbmonkey: Go get it yourself! [08:11] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [08:12] Maaz, ty [08:12] Enjoy Kilos [08:12] hehe [08:12] Maaz, nasty [08:12] Kilos: Huh? [08:15] lo |3o|3 [08:20] nlsthzn, wb [08:21] Thanks Uncle Kilos ... how goes the phone IRC'ing? [08:21] hehe its working ty just tried to login on someone elses nick [08:22] milos belongs to someone else [08:22] like when i first came on here i was miles [08:23] within a week someone had stolen it. then i only learned about the registering nicks bit [08:24] yup... annoying that [08:25] this mineola sure is tasty. [08:25] * kbmonkey apie like sy vrugte [08:26] lol [08:28] kbmonkey, you sure just doing /msg nickserv group and nothing else knows what nick to group where? [08:28] huh [08:29] excuse my ignorance but how does it know to group kilosm to Kilos [08:30] you need to change into the nick you want [08:30] then you run group [08:30] it will know because you are logged into your Kilos irc account, right? [08:30] oh and then it sees from where you changed [08:30] yes :) [08:30] it will know [08:30] ah gracias [08:31] you do that from here [08:31] its easier than on the phone [08:31] i did ty but it didnt say anything but group in the reply [08:32] it didnt? what command did you run? [08:32] [as kilosm] /msg nickserv group [08:33] that /msg nickserv group [08:33] yes i did that [08:33] and reply from nickserv was group [08:35] and what did nickserv tell you after you ran that command the first time? [08:35] group [08:35] thats it [08:35] just group? [08:35] hmm. is there any messages on the "freenode" tab in xchat? [08:36] ie messages from the server [08:36] You are now known as Kilosm [08:36] * nickserve :No such nick/channel [08:37] look around 10:02 - 10:05 [08:37] the time you ran that command [08:38] thats waht it said at 1003 === Kilos is now known as Kilosm [08:39] ok i try again [08:39] well it must have given you the result somewhere [08:39] thats better [08:40] >nickserv< group [08:40] -NickServ- Nick Kilosm is now registered to your account. [08:40] ah that's the one :) [08:40] last time it just said group [08:40] maybe nickserv didnt hear you. might be a cousin off Maaz ;) [08:40] see murphy here full time [08:40] lol [08:41] i got jedirc on my phone with some scrolling tricks. [08:41] tricks? [08:41] well done [08:41] it doesnt run, i need to set app permissions for it, but the options cant work without a scroller :p [08:42] took me most of yesterday [08:42] yes tricks. i scrolled the web page on the phone up/dn until the link was below my pointer. he he [08:42] lol [08:42] ... if you cant bring mohammed to the mountain... [08:42] lo Tonberry [08:42] lo [08:43] o/ [08:43] o\ === Kilosm is now known as Kilos- === kbmonkey is now known as apie [08:46] ek wil ook nick names speel [08:46] lol === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [08:47] was just grouping my tail one too [08:47] hate to have my tail stolen out under me === apie is now known as kbmonkey [08:48] lol [08:48] het jy nou apie ge group [08:48] he he. remember if you dont use those nicks, they will expire too [08:49] after 90 days or something,someone else can claim them [08:49] ja ek het die apie ook [08:49] yeah but the tail comes everytime there is a connection cut [08:50] it does? [08:51] yes man havent you seen when someone is disconnected and comes back before timeout [08:51] then they got tails [08:51] ha ha! [08:51] like scar[w]_ [08:53] now figure how to make tab complete work on fone [08:53] or maybe its jedirc that cant do that [08:54] that might be a xchat thing [08:55] oh my [08:55] no man [08:55] quassel also does it im sure [08:55] i dont see the fly and the pro not having tab complete [08:56] hmm, jedirc based on jmirc. the docs dont have anything about tab or auto complete [08:56] you'll have to experiment :D [08:57] lol === scar[w]_ is now known as brollox [08:58] hehe [08:58] hiya brollox [08:58] oh dear Kilos, you are stirring the channel now [08:58] he he [08:58] hee hee [09:01] hi Kilos [09:01] * brollox be trolling [09:01] lol [09:02] in disguise [09:11] hi queery [09:12] i gotta go off. used 1.5m here [09:12] grrr sure voda crooks [09:12] later all [09:12] or via fone [09:16] hi oom kilos [09:16] oh oops [09:17] hi queery :) [09:18] hi kbmonkey [09:18] hehe @ the oops [09:18] gotcha [09:21] hehe [09:21] ok to the neelsie [09:21] l8er [09:25] gotta do some paperwork at the bank, be back later geeks! [09:33] good morning [09:34] Kilosm: I like your new way of connecting to the channel, nice! [10:15] lol hiya inetpro [10:32] maaz wat eet ons [10:32] Rys vleis en aartapels [10:34] maaz koffie asb [10:34] Kilosm: What? [10:34] maaz koffie please [10:34] Kilosm: Go get it yourself! [10:35] maaz nasty [10:35] Well, Kilosm There are times you guys need to be put in your place. :) [13:58] Hi guys, howzit? I'm pretty much back to sq 1, my system is running well but is again logging me out if I leave it for a while. [13:59] Last time, it stopped doing it when I disabled compiz by trying to remove it, do you think I should try to remove it again? [14:02] Wait langjan [14:03] Langjan, you see maaz in the right side of your xcah [14:03] xchat [14:04] Yes I do [14:05] if you right click on him and open dialogue window [14:05] you will be able to say google and your question [14:05] and he comes up with links [14:05] but lets try here first [14:06] Say google? [14:06] Maaz, google compiz keeps logging off [14:06] Kilos: "[SOLVED] Ubuntu 11.04. keeps logging off while playing flash ..." http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1752854 :: "Enable/disable compiz from command line in F14 - FedoraForum.org" http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=259318 :: "Xmonad/Using xmonad in Gnome - HaskellWiki" http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome :: "Mandriva Forum (en) • View topic - Shape Shifting but no Shadows..." http://for [14:06] see then he gives links to similar probs [14:08] Maaz, google compiz logs out consistantlu on ubuntu maverick [14:08] Kilos: Wow! Google couldn't find anything [14:08] i dont even know what compiz does [14:09] maybe there is a gnome expert here that can help [14:10] Maaz, google how to stop compiz logging out on maverick [14:10] Kilos: "PPA! | be careful, he might break your display" http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2010/11/11/ppa/ :: "Ubuntu Maverick Installation Guide - cchtml.com" http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide :: "[SOLVED] Maverick Gnome Sort of Locks Up - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613146 :: "11.04 - How do I install the latest version of GNOME 3? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/h [14:10] eish [14:11] confluency, do you have an idea on how to block compiz logging langjan out please? [14:14] there must be settings or configuration somewhere [14:16] when here jan you first have to type in maaz but in his dialogue window you start with google [14:17] Meantime I have disabled all the compiz options, hope that helps! Like having a Porsche with no fuel... [14:17] lol [14:17] what does compiz do. i see it is installed here [14:20] It has done nothing for me except to cause hassles [14:20] maybe compiz got hurt with the last episode Langjan [14:21] try sudo aptitude reinstall compiz [14:21] I was hoping but no luck - lamga [14:21] lol [14:21] Frankly I would rathr remove it [14:22] does everything work without it [14:22] then you can sudo aptitude purge compiz [14:23] but i dont know what it will affect [14:23] i go see in synaptic what compiz is [14:24] yes, as I said it did nothing for me, i don't even know why I installed it - oh yes, it was when we were trying to get my desktop switcher to react to drag and drop, I now know that I need to go to basic graphics to do that. Crazy [14:24] oh visual affects [14:25] my compiz installed with ubuntu. i didnt install [14:26] 7 packages [14:27] to purge or to reinstall, that is the question (soos Willie Wikkelspies gese het) [14:27] but if your system worked without it then do sudo aptitude purge compiz [14:27] lmga [14:27] well purge it and if not happy the sudo aptitude install compiz [14:28] reinstall works only if the package is already there [14:28] ok will do, thanx [14:28] good luck [14:29] hey Langjan [14:30] there is a compiz channel [14:30] they should know how to help you [14:30] type in here /j #compiz [14:30] mine is already washing down that channel [14:31] lol [14:31] lmga [14:31] i dunno where all the gnome guys are [14:32] kbmonkey, is jy op gnome [14:32] Kilos, Langjan: I don't use Compiz; sorry. [14:33] ty confluency [14:33] something else, since 10.10 my open office is taking forever to open, in spite of all the tweaks that used to work. Any suggestions? [14:33] Langjan: if you don't mind removing it entirely, have you just tried disabling it? [14:33] * confluency scrolls up [14:33] confluency, neither do I (from now on)...thanks [14:34] Compiz is a compositing manager; it's just there for prettiness. You can disable it without breaking anything; whenever I use Gnome I usually do. [14:34] If you go to the appearance configuration, the last tab is something like "desktop effects". [14:35] kilos, I have run the purge command but compiz still shows on my system? [14:35] You can choose "none", "some" or "lots". Choosing none will disable compiz. [14:35] You shouldn't need to uninstall stuff! [14:36] Langjan: I think in Maverick Compiz is what makes the workspace switcher drag and drop stop working (unless you set up something in compiz). [14:36] oh my. purge normally cleans up [14:36] Langjan: what do you mean by "shows on your system"? [14:36] What exactly did you do? [14:36] OK so I have unticked all the options in compiz and I have run the purge command (it does not seem to like going away!) so I will see what happens [14:37] Where did you untick the options? [14:37] Did you try just disabling compiz? [14:39] By shows on the system I mean if I go system/preferences compiz settings manager shows, that is where I unticked the options [14:39] And what was the purge command you tried? [14:40] And what does dpkg -l | grep compiz say? [14:40] Like I said; you shouldn't need to uninstall anything. You can disable compiz completely in the appearance dialog. [14:40] Did you try doing that? [14:41] I ran sudo aptitude purge compiz [14:43] Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold [14:43] | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend [14:43] |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) [14:43] ||/ Name Version Description [14:43] +++-==============-==============-============================================ [14:43] un compiz (no description available) [14:43] OK, so you probably uninstalled some part of compiz and not the rest. There are several compiz packages. [14:43] ii grep 2.6.3-3 GNU grep, egrep and fgrep [14:43] No packages found matching /. [14:43] I think you forgot the | there. [14:43] Did you try disabling compiz? [14:45] I did /, where do I find the vertical stripe? [14:45] How do I disable compiz? [14:45] Langjan, just copy and paste the commands [14:45] If you go to the appearance configuration, the last tab is something like "desktop effects". [14:45] You can choose "none", "some" or "lots". Choosing none will disable compiz. [14:46] For some reason it will not copy and paste... [14:46] The pipe (|) should be on the same key as \. So hold down shift. [14:46] control c will copy [14:47] Forget the dpkg command; you uninstalled the compiz package and not the handful of compiz-related packages, which id probably why you still have random bits of compiz. [14:47] I suggest selecting to copy and middle-clicking to paste; ctrl-c means "cancel" in some terminals so ctrl-c and ctrl-v don't always work. [14:49] I suggest that you either reinstall the compiz package or find all the compiz-related packages too and uninstall all of them, so you don't have *half* a compiz install. [14:49] You shouldn't need to uninstall compiz; you can just disable it. [14:49] * nuvolari learned not to mess around with X too much [14:50] ok thanks, I will see what happens now, hopefully the problem is solved [14:50] whew [14:51] my synaqptic shows compiz installed but i dont see compiz anything in system preferences [14:51] http://pastebin.com/bhWzmekn [14:52] you probably need to install the settings manager from the options [14:52] nuvolari, do you use compiz? [14:53] which is what I need to reverse to not see the settings... [14:53] lol. mine is working so i leave well enough alone [14:54] well display works fine without seeing compiz in prefs [14:54] old saying. dont fix what isnt broken [14:54] leave well enough alone [14:55] yeah [14:55] but you dont have the choice [14:56] it must be a little thing if it worked before [14:56] oh no. you installed it to fix the desktop thing hey [14:58] Kilos: I do oom, well, I think I do [14:58] I use what's default [14:58] hi Kilos, no i'm not on gnome [14:58]