[00:00] <ichbinder> Polah: worked now... weird. Thanks for helping.
[00:00] <terry> ^^ will ignore everything from that particular IP.  You can do that for a range as wel.
[00:00] <Polah> ichbinder: No problem
[00:00] <[THC]AcidRain> superoneclick doesnt support droid x2
[00:00] <dr_willis> [THC]AcidRain:  check it again. i used it on older versions.
[00:00] <dr_willis> they may have an older version archived
[00:00] <[THC]AcidRain> well im actually running a flavor of droid x on a droid x2 device,
[00:01] <dr_willis> [THC]AcidRain:  time to ask in #android i imagine.
[00:01] <terry> sneakyimp: You dhould go to the security expert you trust for instruction.
[00:01] <[THC]AcidRain> oh snap. z4root is working...
[00:01] <sneakyimp> terry: thx for rule.  as for said expert, he's very busy (and in wildly different time zone).  i'm under a painful deadline.
[00:01] <[THC]AcidRain> or at least it appears.
[00:02] <dr_willis> z4root never worked for me [THC]AcidRain
[00:02] <sneakyimp> terry:  latin proverb: if there is no wind, row
[00:03] <terry> sneakyimp: If it were me, I'd let sshd's config handle what IPs it listens for.
[00:03] <[THC]AcidRain> ,
[00:04] <dr_willis> does sshd support hosts.allow and hosts.deny? or is that so old.. its totally outdated :)
[00:04] <Toyame> hello
[00:04] <sneakyimp> terry: might it happen that one could exploit sshd in that case?   also, is it not more efficient for your machine to have iptables drop the packet before handing it to higher levels of software?
[00:05] <Toyame> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[00:06] <Loshki> sneakyimp: I agree with terry. Using sshd on a non-standard port, and allowing ssh logins via key only is a better way to go...
[00:07] <zykotick9> dr_willis, ssh would need to be called from xinetd to work - it's probably a stand alone server - so short answer is NO
[00:09] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  just rembering the old-skool days :)
[00:09] <TheCyph3r> I've got a question about coming up with a terminal command
[00:09] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  back when you often had to recompile the kernel to get a cd burner working..
[00:10] <zykotick9> dr_willis, ahh, brings me back to a simpler... err more difficult, time ;)
[00:10] <TheCyph3r> If I have a folder with, say, 100 files (specifically pictures), and they all have typical names cameras give (xxx-###, etc)...how can I rename all of them sequentially
[00:11] <zykotick9> dr_willis, i always hated xinitd BTW, but that hosts allow would be pretty handy.
[00:11] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  theck out the renameutils command line tools perhaps. :) is one way
[00:11] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  ive cheated and used wine to run 'bulk rename utilty' also on linux (and i use it all the time on windows)
[00:11] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: is that a download?
[00:12] <sneakyimp> Does anyone here have a good plan for excluding the vast majority of remote IPs for SSH access while permitting some reasonable subnet -- WITHOUT locking oneself out of the machine.  For example, what happens when your ISP gets bought by Comcast?  Or your ISP switches to IP v6?
[00:12] <dr_willis> !info renameutils
[00:12] <sneakyimp> Loshki: thanks for your input.
[00:12] <uni4dfx> Has anyone been able to connect their Windows Mobile 6.5 device to Ubuntu?
[00:12] <dr_willis> i use 'qmv' in the renameutils package all the time
[00:14] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: okay so I have the package, I imagine that it's a command line program that I use through the terminal?
[00:15] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r: for example qmv. puts all the filenames in a list in a text editor you set.. edit them how you want, save,exit.. it renames them all.. i do a thing similer to.....
[00:15] <dr_willis> qmv -f do -e geany
[00:15] <dr_willis> qmv -f do -e geany *
[00:16] <dr_willis> -f do = just show the name to rename to... not both befor/after, -e = use the editor...
[00:16] <dr_willis> then you can do whatever edits you want.. but in your simple case. you may want to track down a more focused tool
[00:16] <TheCyph3r> Right, well my thinking was this
[00:17] <joki> Anyone here have experience with conky?
[00:17] <TheCyph3r> There may be 200-300 pictures with names preassigned by camera...the pictures are of book pages, and i'd like to rename them by page #
[00:17] <dr_willis> im so used to useng 'bulk rename utilty' on windows.. i always install it via wine.. it can add 001 to 999 to the front of a bunch of files in just a few clicks
[00:17] <dr_willis> joki:  lots of conky docs and examples out there.. and the conky homepage...
[00:17] <dr_willis> joki: state the issue and see who can help.
[00:18] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  so is the page# part of the existing filename?
[00:18] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  or are they in order?
[00:18] <Loshki> sneakyimp: that's why I think ssh/non-standard port/keyed entry only is the way to go. You can set up and run/test the server using your existing ssh connection, and then enable it when you're sure it works. And it
[00:18] <wookienz> ubuntu legends. after ,my latest kernel updated pushed out by ubuntu my machine no longer boots to desktop. I get "operaitng in low graphics mode" with no way to fix it.
[00:19] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: They ARE in order, but the existing filename is some randomly assigned name on each...ex: SHF-104, SHF-105, SHF-106, etc.
[00:19] <Loshki> sneakyimp: isn't sensitive to the particular ip addresses in use by client or server...
[00:19] <dr_willis> so you want to change all 'SHF' to "Our_Florida_Pics_" or similer?
[00:20] <TheCyph3r> just like "Pg 201" "Pg 202" "Pg 203" etc. ad nauseum
[00:20] <dr_willis> SO you want to change 'SHF-' to be 'Pg '
[00:20] <dr_willis> but keep the #'s the same.
[00:20] <TheCyph3r> yes, and the numbers in the filename need to be changed as well
[00:21] <dr_willis> heh.. changed how. :)  that frst part would be easy to do via qmv,
[00:21] <TheCyph3r> Nope, the numbers too....It takes FAR too long doing it by hand
[00:21] <dr_willis> you want it to start at 001 and end at whatever? or what exactly
[00:21] <TheCyph3r> let me see
[00:22] <dr_willis> Geany has 'vertical block' cut/paste features that would make that rather easy also. :) if i can rember how to make bash print 001 to 999....
[00:22] <TBotNik> All, Been fighting a networking problem for weeks.  Opened thread on Ubuntu Forums at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11072877#post11072877 and have 3 other machines I just have to get on my network and inet, because they all are supposed to be sharing a database.  I sure can use some help.
[00:23] <sam555> hello all!
[00:23] <sam555> what software program does anyone recommend for checking the hard drive on my Ubuntu computer?
[00:23] <TBotNik> All, Looks like the HOWTO that atomicben put out there would work, if I had the "Auto eth0" they are talking about, which I had before the upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04
[00:23] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Oh wow, brain fart....I'm using my laptop now, but was inserting the SD card into my PC and wondering why the hell the card wouldnt mount!
[00:23] <sam555> Does anyone know whether this is any good http://www.howtoforge.com/checking-hard-disk-sanity-with-smartmontools-debian-ubuntu
[00:24] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  :) or ssh'd to some fileserver.. and wondering why its not got the stuff instgalled.. heh...
[00:24] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: im a newbie... "ssh"?
[00:24] <almoxarife> TBotNik: you have a machine of four on a net, you want it to serve up dhcp to the rest, yes?
[00:24] <dr_willis> !ssh | TheCyph3r
[00:25] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  somthing you will want learn about. if you have more then 1 ubuntu box.
[00:25] <TBotNik> almoxarife: Yup!
[00:25] <sneakyimp> loshki:  the machine is already alive on the internet.  the issue now is locking it down.  it's a compute instance at amazon EC2 so I can't ever go plug-in a keyboard to fix the problem.  non-standard port is possible but a port scan would yield the open port quite easily.
[00:25] <almoxarife> TBotNik: the simple setup would be dnsmasq
[00:25] <dr_willis> !info dnsmasq
[00:26] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: I see....Well im quite aware that i know a percentage of a percentage about Ubuntu, or even linux for that matter >.<
[00:26] <TBotNik> almoxarife: But why do I not have the "Auto eth0"?
[00:26] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  i can 'ssh' from my android phone to my Ubuntu box.. and irc/update/upgrade/transfer files...  make it play 'Mooooo.wav' to annoy the wife....
[00:26] <almoxarife> TBotNik: auto eth0? because you didn't set it to auto?
[00:26] <joki> I need help setting up conky with a lua script anyone willing to help?
[00:27] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Ohh, so it's like remote access?
[00:27] <TBotNik> almoxarife: Do I need to send my dhcp config to pb, for you to look at?
[00:27] <Foxx> Would any of you know why my wireless would say "device not managed"? I already changed etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf  file to Managed=True
[00:27] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  thats one blade of the SSH swiss army-kife-tool.. :)
[00:27] <almoxarife> TBotNik: no, don't want to look at it, you want to serve up dhcp, ok, I suggest 'dnsmasq'
[00:28] <cheako> Hello, I'm trying to build an app with g++ that includes <string> and ends up with this error: " error: '::fwide' has not been declared" and a tone of others.
[00:28] <TBotNik> almoxarife: Not sure, was working on dhcpd, but my machine has dhcp3-server instead and think maybe something got screwed in the config file
[00:28] <TBotNik> almoxarife: K looking at that right now.
[00:28] <cheako> What includes must preq these?
[00:28] <dr_willis> bbl
[00:28] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: I see....okay, so the 129 files are names as such: IMGP0176.jpg, all the way to IMGP0303.jpg
[00:28] <almoxarife> TBotNik: maybe, first you need to decide what to use, then you can figure out the bugs
[00:29] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: And the first filename I want to change to "Pg 279" and ascend to "Pg 406"
[00:30] <TBotNik> almoxarife: While I'm in "Synaptic" should I uninstall the DHCPD or DHCP3?
[00:30] <almoxarife> TBotNik: I am guessing there is a reason why the router can't serve dhcp
[00:31] <skutr34> Hey, I did a clean install of ubuntu 11.04 and tried to boot and it got stuck on a purple screen.....
[00:31] <TBotNik> almoxarife: dnsmasq-base was already installed but not dnsmasq
[00:31] <TBotNik> installing now
[00:31] <skutr34> 64 bit dual boot with Windows 7
[00:31] <almoxarife> TBotNik: yeap, you need it
[00:32] <TBotNik> almoxarife: Got my laptop connected to hub, so will know when it is live.
[00:33] <almoxarife> TBotNik: the config file is pretty straight forward, dnsmasq will offer up dhcp, you decide what the net ip range is, the other machines need to look at the machine with dnsmasq for dhcp
[00:33] <skutr34> Hey, I did a clean install of ubuntu 11.04 and tried to boot and it got stuck on a purple screen. Can anyone help with this please?
[00:34] <Loshki> sneakyimp: In practice, port scanning tcp sockets is quite time consuming as the space is so big. I've found that running ssh on a non-standard port has pretty much stopped all ssh probe attempts. And allowing keyed-access-only pretty much prevents any password guessing. You'll probably want it even if you use the other stuff. See Tips for Securing Your EC2 Instance  http://aws.amazon.com/articles/1233, in particular the "Ditch Those Passwords: Use ss
[00:34] <Loshki> h Keys" sections...
[00:36] <pappa_bear> how do i quit firefox in terminal
[00:36] <dr_willis> killall firefox
[00:37] <dr_willis> may do it
[00:37] <skutr34> Hey, I did a clean install of ubuntu 11.04 and tried to boot and it got stuck on a purple screen. Can anyone help with this please?
[00:37] <dr_willis> skutr34:  what video chipset? try the nomodeset option yet?
[00:37] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | skutr34
[00:37] <TBotNik> almoxarife: K installed
[00:37] <pappa_bear> irefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[00:38] <pappa_bear> killall didnt work
[00:38] <dr_willis> ps ax | grep firefox, make note of the 'pid'  then 'kill pid'  or 'kill -9 pid'
[00:38]  * pappa_bear is frustrated
[00:38] <skutr34> dr_willis: i will try this
[00:38] <dr_willis> or carefully try 'xkill' and click in the ofending firefox window
[00:39] <TrentonAdams> dr_willis: I found my sluggish problem
[00:39] <dr_willis> carefull with xkill;. :) it can kill the X session if you click wrongly
[00:39] <TBotNik> All, Sorry did not drag right so closed.
[00:39] <pappa_bear> i can't find the firefox window
[00:39] <dr_willis> TrentonAdams:  slugs in the pc? :)
[00:39] <TBotNik> almoxarife: What next
[00:39] <pappa_bear> tha's why i'm havin' to do it in terminal but i'm a n()()b
[00:40] <Brosephus> already asked this in #apache but my OS is ubuntu: I've got this config in sites-available, site in enabled, main domain works fine but the two subdomains do not: http://pastebin.com/Sd5B38U2, DNS is configured but the subdomains are unreachable
[00:40] <TrentonAdams> dr_willis: lol.  No, remember, the slow keyboard input, bad graphics, etc, after screen saver.  Logout/login fixed it sort of deal
[00:40] <joki> I need help setting up conky with a lua script anyone willing to help?
[00:40] <TrentonAdams> dr_willis: You mentioned seeing that sometimes too
[00:40] <genewitch> my grub.cfg is wrong, when it tries to boot of UUID it fails but if i set it to /dev/sda1 it boots. Any way to fix the UUID thing or should i just stick with the /dev/sda1
[00:40] <dr_willis> pappa_bear:  then try this route --> ps ax | grep firefox, make note of the 'pid'  then 'kill pid'  or 'kill -9 pid'
[00:40] <dr_willis> TrentonAdams:  dont think it was me...
[00:40] <pappa_bear> pappa_bear@theDen:~$ ps as | grep firefox
[00:40] <pappa_bear>  1000 17794 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 S+   pts/0      0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[00:40] <pappa_bear> now what?
[00:40] <dr_willis> one of those first #'s is the PID.
[00:41] <pappa_bear> probably the 17794
[00:41] <dr_willis> i just cant rember which. :)
[00:41] <dr_willis> 1000 may be the user uid. :)
[00:41] <pappa_bear> or that 3rd 0
[00:41] <zykotick9> genewitch, run "blkid" to find the proper UUID, or switch to Labels
[00:41] <dr_willis> actually none of them are.. thats the process for your grep command.. :)
[00:41] <zykotick9> genewitch, using /dev/sda# should be avoided if possible
[00:41] <Polah> pappa_bear: dr_willis: Second one is PID. The column is titled "PID" too (:
[00:41] <TBotNik> almoxarife: You have a HOWTO link on setting this up?
[00:42] <almoxarife> TBotNik: dnsmasq configure dhcp http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/setup.html
[00:42] <pappa_bear> okay but what do i do with the pid?
[00:42] <genewitch> zykotick9: the blkid reports the same UUID as the one in grub.cfg
[00:42] <dr_willis> try ps ax | grep fire       could be the command name is not 'firefox' - i got no X. so cant check
[00:42] <dr_willis> pappa_bear:  'kill THEPIDNUMBER'
[00:42] <almoxarife> TBotNik: yeap, from the author even
[00:42] <pappa_bear> k
[00:42] <zykotick9> Does anyone happen to know how long the timeout is sudo, before it requires the password again?
[00:42] <genewitch> zykotick9: mind you i have no idea why it fails, something about root device took too long to respond and it drops to initramfs
[00:43] <Polah> pappa_bear: are you trying to kill an instance of firefox?
[00:43] <pappa_bear> yes
[00:43] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  i was thinking 15 min..  i do know its setable
[00:43] <pappa_bear> Polah, sry
[00:43] <almoxarife> dr_willis: where I can set sudo time?
[00:43] <pappa_bear> Polah, yeah, i can't find the window,
[00:43] <BiggFREE> Usually it is 10 minutes
[00:43] <zykotick9> dr_willis, I found a webupd8 article about setting, but can't figure out a way to test
[00:43] <Polah> pappa_bear: ps -A | grep firefox should do it. The first number that shows is the PID. Then you can use kill -9 <PID>
[00:43] <dr_willis> almoxarife:  no idea. :) i do know its setable s omewhere.
[00:44] <Polah> pappa_bear; Should give you an output like this 9862 ?        00:00:13 firefox-bin with firefox in red
[00:44] <almoxarife> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/how-to-change-sudo-password-time-out-in.html
[00:44] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  sudo apt-get update... enter password...   then try it again in a few min....
[00:44] <zykotick9> Set sudo timeout http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/how-to-change-sudo-password-time-out-in.html
[00:44] <almoxarife> :)
[00:44] <zykotick9> dr_willis, but if i rerun a sudo command won't that reset it?
[00:44] <skutr34> dr_willis: my video card: ATI Raedon HD 3200, ATI display adapter (0x9612)
[00:44] <dr_willis> it sets it for 15 min after the first initial sudo (or 10 min) i think
[00:45] <dr_willis> skutr34:  write that down on a sticker on the pc. :)
[00:45] <omnimoon> evening all
[00:45] <zykotick9> dr_willis, cool, i can just test to figure it out then
[00:45] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  perhaps 'watch sudo ls -l'    :) and let it run till it fails?
[00:45] <TBotNik> almoxarife: /etc/resolve.conf hasboth :  nameserver 192.168.3.1 and
[00:45] <TBotNik> nameserver 127.0.0.1.  is this good?
[00:45] <dr_willis> I dont know that watch can work that way.. but it just came to mind.
[00:46] <zykotick9> dr_willis, cool thanks!
[00:46] <skutr34> dr_willis: do you by chance know if that chipset needs the nomodeset parameters?
[00:46] <TrentonAdams> dr_willis: Anyhow, I blogged about it just now.  http://blog.adamsbros.org/2011/07/21/ubuntu-sluggish-or-slow/
[00:46] <dr_willis> skutr34:  no idea. I avoid ati as much as possible. try it and see.
[00:47] <skutr34> dr_willis: haha, why do you avoid ATI?
[00:47] <jswensen> Just installed 10.04 (no 11.04 because I can only get RTAI to build for 10.04).  I can't get gdm to start without "fenagling".  Xorg/gdm seems to start, but it just sits there and the cursor blinks on a black background.  If I mash on CTRL-ALT-F1 long enough the screen goes blank (I think it actually dropped to a terminal because I can blind login and cat something to a file and it is actually there), then use ALT-F8 to get back to graphical display.  Up
[00:47] <jswensen> returning GDM is actually showing up.
[00:47] <almoxarife> TBotNik: no, resolve.conf will reset itself, the change is done elsewhere
[00:47] <dr_willis> skutr34:  i normally need nomodeset untll i can get the addational-drivers installed for my nvidia cards
[00:47] <dr_willis> skutr34:  they are very poor in their linux support.
[00:47] <jswensen> In constrast, if I start the system without GDM running and just run startx, Xorg starts up fine.  Any suggestions?
[00:47] <skutr34> dr_willis: ok
[00:47] <dr_willis> skutr34:  i rank them > 'nvidia, intel ...... way down.. ATI..   and NEVER BUY --> sis.'
[00:47] <TBotNik> K, where?
[00:48] <dr_willis> does matrox even exist any more? they would be above sis. :)
[00:48] <skutr34> dr_willis: i will try the nomodeset params, then install my additional drivers
[00:48] <skutr34> thanks for the help :)
[00:48] <TBotNik> almoxarife: Do I need to create the shell script they suggest and run it?
[00:48] <TrentonAdams> Yeah, those sissy sis cards.
[00:48] <TrentonAdams> :P
[00:48] <dr_willis> skutr34:  ive notived if you install with the nomodeset option. It can get added to the /etc/default/grub file - even after its not neded.
[00:48] <skutr34> dr_willis: really? that's interesting
[00:49] <ntr0py> dr_willis, may i ask what gfx card u currently have in use?
[00:49] <almoxarife> TBotNik: no shell scripts, wait one
[00:49] <skutr34> dr_willis: notived?
[00:49] <dr_willis> I am on an Nvidia Geforce 6150SE (built into the MB) on this box. I took out my 8800gtsxxx  that was in here.. because i couldent stand the noise. :)
[00:49] <TBotNik> almoxarife: K, just remember I have dhcp3-server instead of dhcpd.
[00:50] <dr_willis> Laptop has a Nvidia 360M  (i think), only ati machine i got is a 'slim' cheap pc i got at xmas on black friday for $200 :)(
[00:50] <user234> if i'm getting a write protect error on a usb drive that does not have a write protect slider, does that mean it's toast?
[00:51] <dr_willis> user234:  ive seen usb flash go bad that way..
[00:51] <dr_willis> user234:  ive seen brand new ones say a similer error.. even under windows. :) took that one back to the store.
[00:51] <user234> dr_willis: thx
[00:52] <Hermiene> I'm getting the blank screen w/cursor thingy when trying to install, and I've tried the "i195.modeset=0" solution, to no avail. Am I missing something...?
[00:52] <dr_willis> Store Manager was looking ALL over that usb flash for a write-protect switch.. ive never seen a USB flash with one.
[00:52] <TBotNik> almoxarife: You looking for HOWTO?
[00:52] <dr_willis> night all...
[00:52] <q0_0p> how do i install ubuntu kernel
[00:52] <ntr0py> dr_willis, night
[00:53] <almoxarife> TBotNik: dnsmasq is a dhcp server, but you also have another as you mentioned, you need to decide which is the one you want to use, I don't see how both can be used
[00:53] <wookienz> when i log into gdm i dont have the classic gnome option, only "user defined session or "recovery console" where has it gone?
[00:53] <wookienz> classic gnome tha is.
[00:54] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, What about VGA=771 ?
[00:54] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p what do you mean by that upgrade the kernel?
[00:54] <TBotNik> almoxarife: K will uninstall, but have to leave client.  Right?
[00:54] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, yes
[00:54] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, for some reason ubuntu is telling me I dont have a kernel when i boot
[00:54] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, I've chrooted into the system and have access to apt-get
[00:55] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p Im more familiar with yum than apt but sudo apt-get upgrade kernel should do it
[00:55] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: I'm on a stationary box. I thought that was just for laptops...?
[00:55] <almoxarife> TBotNik: the client was already there, yes?
[00:55] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, what should I apt-get in specific
[00:55] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p /usr/bin
[00:56] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, Give it a go regardless....you can also put in: acpi=off noapic
[00:56] <almoxarife> TBotNik: so why not use the dhcp-server you installed?
[00:56] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, what about /usr/bin ?
[00:56] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p sorry missread apt-get upgrade kernel
[00:56] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p thought you asked for the path to apt
[00:56] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, what is package called
[00:57] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, if i remember something like linux-image
[00:57] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, or linux headers
[00:57] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: This is my first time installing Linux... Do I leave the double hyphens "--" alone, or do I delete them?
[00:58] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p linux-image will work with sudo apt-get install
[00:58] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, Just a quick question - why are you using the "i195" option in the first place?
[00:58] <user234> is there a place where i can download modules for a particular kernel?
[00:58] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p I use sudo apt-get upgrade kernel just to install headers etc
[00:59] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: I followed this: http://journalxtra.com/2010/07/ubuntu-fixing-the-blank-screen-on-installation-bug/
[00:59] <sker> Q
[00:59] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, Right oh...just checking mate.
[00:59] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, what about this apt-get install linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic
[00:59] <herny> they should combine Software Center and Synaptic into one thingamabob
[00:59] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p yes thats the kernel
[01:00] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, do I need to install headers?
[01:00] <andantino> and call it Synaptic Thingamabob?
[01:00] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: Giving it a go...
[01:00] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p the headers and other stuff isnt needed unless you want to compile your own kernel
[01:00] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, you can also try adding "xforcevesa" as well...
[01:00] <L1nuxRules> q0_0p also might be needed to compile from source
[01:00] <q0_0p> L1nuxRules, okay makes sense
[01:01] <almoxarife> synaptic works for me, its not sexy but it gets it done
[01:01] <suicidal> hey guys
[01:01] <suicidal> how do i join a channel?
[01:01] <herny>  /join #channel
[01:01] <zykotick9> This isn't a support question so technically it's OT but, I gotta share it.  KVM virtualization can easily boot separate physical partitions - so you can be in Ubuntu, and open a VM of your physical windows on another partition (or another GNU/Linux install).  Really cool in my opinion!  I discovered it as a warning on Ubuntu's KVM page.
[01:01] <goodtime> #channel
[01:01] <andantino> "/join #channelname"
[01:01] <suicidal> guys
[01:02] <ntr0py> How is it possible that a video in VLC looks like it has lover fps on vdpau than regular playback?
[01:02] <suicidal> how do i join a channel?
[01:02] <andantino> slash
[01:02] <andantino> #
[01:02] <andantino> join
[01:02] <dualbootah> hi everyone
[01:02] <Polah> suicidal: /join #channel
[01:02] <sker> hi
[01:02] <andantino> ooops
[01:02] <dualbootah> i just installed ubuntu
[01:02] <andantino> i mean
[01:02] <dualbootah> but i cant get the World of wracraft installer file to open
[01:02] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[01:02] <dualbootah> it says the exe is hidden
[01:02] <dualbootah> and i cant freaking fix it
[01:03] <almoxarife> dualbootah: exe? like windows?
[01:03] <dualbootah> yes
[01:03] <dualbootah> im trying to run it with wine
[01:03] <dualbootah> but now its all screwed up
[01:03] <goodtime> type  /join #channel suicidal
[01:04] <dualbootah> now its completely meesed up
[01:04] <andantino> like if you want to join a room called skallywag you would type "/join #scallywag"
[01:04] <almoxarife> dualbootah: did winehq say that game ran in wine?
[01:04] <dualbootah>  No installer data could be found. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support.
[01:04] <dualbootah> yes its the most popular ame able to be ran in wine with no problems
[01:04] <zykotick9> almoxarife, WOW does run in wine yes
[01:05] <L1nuxRules> dualbootah the only use of windows is for gaming so use it forget wine or whatever because your emulating so your hardware is being used for more than is needed although windows will use more base resources
[01:05] <dualbootah> im only ubunut
[01:05] <dualbootah> id like to run it in ubuntu...
[01:05] <thephased> I'm having a tough time removing alsa-base from lucid. apt-get doesn't seem to work because that's not how i installed it initally.
[01:05] <chaddy> ask in #winehq, maybe, dualbootah
[01:06] <thephased> i really just want to upgrade alsa to 1.0.24 using a ppa
[01:06] <zykotick9> dualbootah, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[01:06] <L1nuxRules> dualbootah Im hardcore Linux and hate windows but I still use it because its the only advantage windows has over Linux which is down to dev and hardware vendors
[01:06] <genewitch> is installing the ATI drivers from the restricted hardware panel the recommended way of doing it?
[01:06] <genewitch> or should i get the drivers from ATI
[01:06] <almoxarife> dualbootah: google more
[01:06] <rww> genewitch: You should use Restricted Hardware. The ATI drivers aren't supported by us.
[01:06] <dualbootah> i have
[01:06] <dualbootah> ive tried every solution
[01:06] <dualbootah> nothing works
[01:06] <dualbootah> im supposed to unhide the exe
[01:07] <genewitch> rww: k
[01:07] <dualbootah> but it doesnt owrk
[01:07] <FloodBot1> dualbootah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <zykotick9> dualbootah, ask in #winehq then
[01:07] <ichbinder_> hello. I need to install sun-java6-jdk and a few weeks ago that still was found in synaptic and installed, when canonical partners was added as repository. Now I installed same ubuntu 11.04 on a different machine today and it can't find sun-java6-jdk anymore, even though canonical partners etc. is the same...?
[01:07] <dualbootah> Note that on some WoW DVD's the installer executable is hidden and you need to re-mount the disc with the 'unhide' option. To do this type in a terminal:    sudo umount /dev/cdrom   sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,unhide /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/
[01:07] <blade1> i need help about kdm theme
[01:07] <dualbootah> i tried those commands
[01:07] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: The "vga=771" thing didn't work. What was the other thing? (I didn't jot it down.)
[01:07] <almoxarife> dualbootah: giving up? that's no fun, get some soda and some pizza, start from scratch
[01:07] <zykotick9> ichbinder, did you "sudo apt-get update" after adding partner?  it should be there.
[01:08] <StaticShock> is there an appropriate channel for discussing FUSE?
[01:08] <Polah> ichbinder_: Double check the partners repo is enabled and make sure you updated your package list
[01:08] <YankDownUnder> Hermiene, "xforcevesa"
[01:08] <andantino> dualbootah: juice and salad is probably a healthier option though
[01:08] <andantino> just sayin
[01:09] <Hermiene> YankDownUnder: Ah, thanks. Will try that.
[01:10] <blade1> i need help about kdm!!!
[01:11] <KM0201> blade: might have more luck in #kubuntuu
[01:11] <blade1> but i have ubuntu
[01:11] <blade1> :D
[01:11] <Docnix> hello everybody
[01:11] <KM0201> blade: so why on earth are you using kdm?
[01:12] <sker> hi
[01:12] <blade1> i will other theme
[01:12] <Docnix> is there anybody expert with PiTiVi?
[01:12] <ichbinder_> Polah: oh man... I shouldn't setup a new system last minute when I need it 9 hours later for a demo... and then forget to reload package list... -.-
[01:12] <ichbinder_> Polah: thanks! :)
[01:12] <L1nuxRules> km0201 hes probably installed a kde aimed app i.e yakuake
[01:13] <KM0201> L1nuxRules: that usually doesn't install kdm
[01:13] <Docnix> I'd need to export a movie in another standard format than the owner format
[01:13] <L1nuxRules> km0201 ahh ok
[01:13] <sneakyimp> loshki: yes of course keyed access via ssh already set up.  no root login, no password, key only.   in fact, only one AllowUsers right now.
[01:14] <blade1> :(
[01:14] <Avalessa> I know this is a stupid question but is there a specific topic here? :\
[01:15] <L1nuxRules> sneakimp one more thing now switch the ssh port ... just for the decryption exploits
[01:15] <Polah> Avalessa: Nope.
[01:16] <Avalessa> WOuld anyone be able to help me figure out why ubuntu seems to suddenly be rejecting my xbox?
[01:16] <Polah> Avalessa: In what way do you mean?
[01:17] <L1nuxRules> +1 ubuntu
[01:17] <JRWR> Ubuntu 10.04 (Linode) - Postfix/Dovecot Issue - Unable to receive emails - When ever i send a email to my mail server, the logs show that the email was received and no errors where found, when i go to check the account, no emails are in the inbox at all - main.cf http://pastebin.com/ARjhCSFC / master.cf http://pastebin.com/KHLRZt4A / dovecot.conf http://pastebin.com/hfKgB6VW
[01:17] <YankDownUnder> JRWR, Um...wouldn't that question work better in #dovecot ?
[01:17] <kora-chan> hi, i'm using natty on my thinkpad x220 tablet (i7, intel 3000HD). i have a small problem: i can use my external monitor just fine when i use my vga output, but when i connect it to the display port i only get a black screen with a mouse pointer on my notebook and the display itself says no signal. any idea how to troubleshoot?
[01:18] <Avalessa> OUt of nowhere I suddenly lost the ability to go on xbox live. I use a wired connection through my ubuntu 11.04 laptop and it worked fine 3 weeks ago (I was idle for 3 weeks) and suddenly my xbox doesn't even connect to my network. I called xbox support and they told me to contact the ubuntu community so here I am.
[01:18] <kora-chan> Avalessa: youre using your ubuntu machine to route the xbox to the net?
[01:19] <Avalessa> Yes
[01:19] <L1nuxRules> jrwr tail -f /var/log/mailog while your sending a mail to the server then pastebin that
[01:20] <kora-chan> Avalessa:  Do you use a switch to connect the xbox and the pc? if yes, are you running a dhcp server on your ubuntu box? you could start by looking if the xbox got an ip and if yes if you can ping it
[01:20] <JRWR> l1nuxman: http://pastebin.com/ALqcw0Xb
[01:20] <L1nuxRules> jrwr but really you should be asking in #ubuntu-server
[01:20] <L1nuxRules> jrwr will take a look
[01:21] <kora-chan> Avalessa: may seem like a straight forward solution,... if the xbox doesnt find any network i'd also try checking the network cables,.. maybe somethings broken there
[01:21] <robskii> Anyone know their way around joomla? Not having any luck finding life on their channels
[01:22] <L1nuxRules> jrwr what mailbox you sending too?
[01:22] <Avalessa> We tried everything with my router, router settings, and the xbox itself. Nothing hasworked.
[01:22] <almoxarife> Avalessa: why not connect the xbox to the router?
[01:23] <Avalessa> I'm 2 stories above the router
[01:23] <terry> Avalessa: Tel us what you have hooked to what.
[01:23] <JRWR> l1nuxman: its a virtual mailbox setup, should be going into the jrwr account
[01:23] <almoxarife> Avalessa: ah
[01:23] <Avalessa> My xbox is hooked up to my laptop which is connected to our wifi network
[01:24] <YankDownUnder> JRWR, Have you considered checking in the #dovecot channel? Or #postfix for that matter? Oh, and have you setup a "procmailrc" yet?
[01:24] <pappa_bear> Polah, that worked thanks
[01:24] <L1nuxRules> jrwr theres no errors in the mailing being recieved so its the local delivery thats an issue are all the mail services started? Is the mail queue high?
[01:24] <terry> !ics | Avalessa
[01:25] <Avalessa> I'm already doing that
[01:25] <JRWR> l1nuxman: i found the lost emails, they where in /home/jrwr/maildir
[01:26] <terry> Avalessa: Do you have eth0 set to static IP address?
[01:26] <terry> Avalessa: First off, is eth0  the network interface that is connected to the xbox?
[01:26] <terry> or is it eth1?
[01:26] <daniel__> hello would anyone know how to activate a wireless driver that stoped working after i updated from 10.10 to 11.04 my card is a Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN and my computer is a vostro 1000
[01:26] <Avalessa> eth0 is the connection
[01:26] <terry> to the xbox?
[01:26] <Avalessa> Yes
[01:27] <pappa_bear>  pappa_bear@theDen:~$ kill -9 16200
[01:27] <pappa_bear> bash: kill: (16200) - No such process
[01:28] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Have you tried to find out if the right device driver for the wireless is working and activated? (run "sudo jockey-gtk")
[01:29] <pappa_bear> Polah, btw, it's the second number
[01:29] <L1nuxRules> jrwr thats your inbox what are you using to retrieve the mail?
[01:29] <Polah> pappa_bear: Second number for the way dr_willis told you to do it. It was the first number for the way I told you to.
[01:30] <L1nuxRules> jrwr actually might not be whats the contents of that dir?
[01:31] <almoxarife> Avalessa: you have a wireless connection to the router?
[01:31] <Avalessa> My laptop does, yes
[01:31] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, all that did was open additional drivers ive tried that and i marked the bcmwl-kernel-source for reisntalation like the website https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx told me to and nothing has worked what else do u think i should try ?
[01:31] <almoxarife> Avalessa: does xbox?
[01:32] <Avalessa> No,
[01:32] <Zaehlas> I have a question, running ubuntu 10.04, server, LTS, fresh install.  WHY would my udev do THIS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/649600/
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and comment out the bcm43xx driver, reboot.
[01:32] <pappa_bear> Polah, first number = User ID
[01:33] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, how do i do that
[01:33] <Polah> pappa_bear: Not for my method. ps as shows UID and then PID. ps -a like I said shows PID  and then TTY. No UID
[01:34] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Um, sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf => comment in front of bcm43xx, save the file, restart the machine
[01:35] <L1nuxRules> Zaehlas maybe something to do with the build system
[01:36] <Zaehlas> well, this is crazy, was same build I used before, needed new hard drives, so fresh installed, but it looks luike every time it's booting, it swaps my two network interfaces..  which causes some serious problems, as you can guess.
[01:36] <L1nuxRules> Zaehlas they have probablly changed something with the PXE deployment
[01:37] <Zaehlas> meh.  any idea on how to UNDO whatever they changed.  this is crazy.  who has udev specifically rename network interfaces on a whim?
[01:37] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, sry im a realy big noob here what do u mean comment in front of bcm43xx
[01:38] <L1nuxRules> Zaehlas not familiar with udev or whim
[01:38] <Zaehlas> YankDownUnder Comment is like the number sign, usually, hold down shift, hit 3, that symbol means "comment the whole line"
[01:38] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Put a "#" in front of it like all the other comments in the file.
[01:39] <Zaehlas> *sigh*  Maybe I'll reboot another dozen tinmes, and try to figure out what's it doing.
[01:39] <Zaehlas> Thanks anyway
[01:40] <ocmsRzr> hi, I'm trying to get my mic input played through the speakers and I don't have a clue how. I tried enabling the loopback module in pulseaudio but it didn't work
[01:40] <ocmsRzr> any ideas?
[01:40] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, .# replaced by b43 and ssb.
[01:40] <daniel__> blacklist (so here)>bcm43xx
[01:41] <comfortsuites> how do i reset the desktop,top tool bar, bottom toolbar to default settings?
[01:41] <histo> !resetpanels | comfortsuites
[01:42] <comfortsuites> bash: !resetpanels: event not found ??
[01:42] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Yeah mate. Das it
[01:42] <comfortsuites> didn't work
[01:43] <comfortsuites> someone has changed the panel settings and minimized apps are like very very small
[01:43] <SAaCMB> Ok i got windows installed, i have to update the drivers to be able to use sound and the internet. Heres my question, how do i fix the MBR so that i get Ubuntu as an operating system choice at startup? The installation of windows7 has made it so it only gives me the choice of windows.
[01:43] <Avalessa> CAn anyone else help me with my xbox problem?
[01:44] <histo> !grub2 | Obeyance
[01:44] <Polah> SAaCM: Boot from a LiveCD/USB and reinstall GRUB
[01:44] <itaylor57> comfortsuites, you run the command given by ubottu not the resetpanels command
[01:44] <yellowgto> Anyone have any idea how to unmute mic (So you can hear it) on Ubuntu 11.04?
[01:44] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, ok should i earase the blacklist before it and also how do i save it
[01:44] <histo> yellowgto: in the sound preferences
[01:45] <yellowgto> I've unmuted that already
[01:45] <yellowgto> Under the input tab
[01:45] <yellowgto> Doesn't work
[01:45] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Mate, I never said to erase the blacklist - only to comment out the bcm43xx module and save the file and reboot the machine.
[01:46] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, ok i didnt jsut making sure but how do i save the file
[01:46] <Obeyance> Ok, i have Ubuntu 9.10 LIVECD. The last grub version i had after upgrading and patching fully to 11.04 i had Grub 1.99. What is the safest method of getting back to that? Would doing the liveCD route be safe?
[01:46] <histo> yellowgto: you want to here playback from the mic?
[01:46] <yellowgto> Yes
[01:46] <histo> yellowgto: you'd have to unmute the output tab as well
[01:46] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, "CTRL+X" saves the file
[01:46] <yellowgto> I don't have an Unmute tab in output histo
[01:47] <daniel__> ok im rebooting thanks hopefully it works
[01:47] <yellowgto> Just left or right slider
[01:47] <histo> yellowgto: you should have an output volume for the mic on the playback tab
[01:47] <histo> yellowgto: if not you can use alsamixer in a terminal and
[01:47] <yellowgto> Playback tab in Sound prefs?
[01:48] <histo> yellowgto: idk i'm not in ubuntu atm but I know it's there
[01:48] <yellowgto> I have an output tab
[01:48] <yellowgto> histo I thought ubuntu uses pulse audio
[01:48] <yellowgto> Not alsamixer?
[01:48] <yellowgto> I might be wrong
[01:48] <histo> yellowgto: alsamixer is a volume control
[01:49] <yellowgto> because I have Alsa Mixer
[01:49] <histo> yellowgto: unless something changed recently you should be able to adjust volumes with it
[01:50] <yellowgto> It must be the headset
[01:50] <yellowgto> Doesn't jive right with Ubuntu
[01:50] <yellowgto> Logitech G930
[01:50] <yellowgto> I have everything unmuted in ALSA mixer
[01:51] <histo> yellowgto: i see what you are saying now with the new sound settings
[01:51] <histo> yellowgto: let me check something
[01:51] <yellowgto> I downloaded ALSA mixer
[01:51] <yellowgto> From Synaptic
[01:53] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, still no luck
[01:53] <stercor_> What's the average capacity of nodes on VG2?
[01:54] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Now that you've done that, run "sudo jockey-gtk" again - see what shows up mate.
[01:55] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gi/types.py:44: Warning: g_object_set_qdata: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[01:55] <daniel__>   return info.invoke(*args)
[01:56] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Are you typing this in a term: sudo jockey-gtk ??
[01:58] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, yeh it opens up additional drivers and shoots that out in additional drivers it says the broadcom STA wireless driver is working but on my computer the wifi led isnt lit and as far as the networking tool it wont detect it and it worked fine in 10.10
[01:59] <ocmsRzr> does anyone know how to play mic input through the speakers in 11.04
[01:59] <YankDownUnder> daniel__, Close all that crap up, and open up the Package Manager, search on "backports" => install the backports, reboot, see what goes on after that.
[01:59] <daniel__> ok
[02:00] <comfortsuites> don't you need a patch cable to do a NIC2NIC connection?
[02:00] <TheCyph3r> If I have two Ubuntu boxes on the same wireless network, can I transfer data b/w them w/o using an external HDD or the like?
[02:01] <lenovo> lenovo ideapad y430
[02:01] <dli> TheCyph3r, sure, use ssh should be handy, unless the network blocks it
[02:01] <YankDownUnder> comfortsuites, IN most instances, the onboard NIC's are automatically configured - so they'll know if it's a crossover connection or not - and fix it automagically...however, it's always  nice to  have a crossover cable handy.
[02:02] <TheCyph3r> dli: And how do I do that? I'm VERY slowly learning the whole Linux/Ubuntu thing
[02:02] <comfortsuites> so it is possible to have a IP assigned to a NIC on the other end of a standard ethernet cable in ubuntu?
[02:03] <dli> comfortsuites, auto-crossover is included in all Gigabit NIC, so, unless you have two computers both with 100Mbps NICs
[02:03] <bryhoyt> Hi, I have made a few custom mods to my ubuntu system and suddenly dhclient (dhcp utility, I presume) no longer works. It first complains "error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6" and on further inspection with strace, it turns out that it doesn't have the permissions to access the libc.so.6 library (when it tries to open it in the first few lines of strace). However, I am very definitely running it as root. What's my problem?
[02:03] <dli> TheCyph3r, on both computers, install sshfs
[02:03] <comfortsuites> laptop is wifi, another laptop is wired into the wifi laptop. how do i bridge the connections so laptop 2 can get an IP ?
[02:04] <daniel__> YankDownUnder, ok wicth one there seems to be many different ones linux-backports-modules-net-(then random numbers follows by generic and some are then follow by -pare or they are followed by nattey then generic
[02:04] <Obeyance> When i type ( Sudo Grub ) It says Command not found.
[02:04] <dli> comfortsuites, if you only do it once, just connect ethernet cable, manually set IPs for both, and enable NAT(ipmasq) on the one with wifi
[02:04] <Obeyance> !grub
[02:05] <Obeyance> Should i get grub2 or stick with KK grub 1.*?
[02:05] <Obeyance> Im new to linux so i dont know the difference.
[02:06] <dli> Obeyance, then, choose grub2
[02:06] <TheCyph3r> dli: Is sshfs run through the terminal? I dont see it in the Applications section
[02:06] <comfortsuites> dli: the laptop with wifi is being assigned it's own IP from a router via DHCP. i want to get the wired laptop and IP from the router. allow a passthrough
[02:06] <dli> TheCyph3r, if you want GUI, gnome file manager (nautilus) can do ssh
[02:07] <Disguised> can someone explain the purpose of .xinitrc? does gdm go looking for that file, or does it just look at the file in the xsessions directory
[02:07] <dli> TheCyph3r, open nautilus, go to File->Connect to Server, and supply IP of the other computer, and choose ssh protocol
[02:08] <dli> Disguised, no, gdm doesn't read .xinitrc
[02:08] <dli> Disguised, if you run the command startx, .xinitrc is sourced
[02:09] <TheCyph3r> dli: Which computer should be server? The one supplying or receiving?
[02:09] <comfortsuites> dli: where do i go to enable NAT?
[02:09] <Disguised> well, im using dwm, and i want to customize the status bar, which reads from stdin i believe
[02:09] <Disguised> so should i create a script, then call that from my xsesion file instead of dwm directly?
[02:09] <dli> TheCyph3r, either way would work, since it's a two-way transfer
[02:10] <dli> comfortsuites, you can try programs like shorewall, or use some simple bash scripts
[02:13] <TheCyph3r> dli: okay, so I don't need to supply any passwords or anything?
[02:14] <dli> TheCyph3r, you will be asked about passwd, unless you get public keys
[02:15] <TheCyph3r> dli: strange...it's saying "Could not display "sftp://xxx.xxx.x.xx/"  Acess was denied."
[02:15] <TheCyph3r> dli: The x's are in lieu of the ip
[02:15] <dli> TheCyph3r, can you ssh to it in terminal?
[02:16] <dli> TheCyph3r, also, on the server side (remote), make sure ssh port is up, test it there: ssh localhost
[02:16] <TheCyph3r> dli: Don't know how :(    I'm a total newbie to this
[02:16] <dli> TheCyph3r, if it works, try from the other computer: ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[02:17] <TheCyph3r> dli: "ssh: connect to host localhost port22: Connection refused"
[02:18] <dli> TheCyph3r, you need to install the program, sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:18] <TheCyph3r> dli: okay, I got sshfs on both from Software Center, didnt know i needed ssh as well :-/
[02:18] <dli> TheCyph3r, if it's already installed, try to start it, sudo service ssh start
[02:19] <lunarblaze> i need to format a drive but i dunno how. terminal command please?
[02:19] <dli> lunarblaze, mkfs.ext4 /dev/foo
[02:19] <tbotnik> almox
[02:20] <lunarblaze> and then the location right?
[02:20] <TheCyph3r> dli: Okay, I just installed ssh on both boxes
[02:20] <tbotnik> almoxarife: Hey...you were helping my friend tbotnik with connectivity...but he can't connect so, I'm trying to help him out
[02:21] <Obeyance> Ok i have been following the directions and i have made my way to using the [ Sudo grub-install ] command but i am unsure which /dev/sda to specify.
[02:21] <TheCyph3r> dli: do I need to go through the "ssh localhost" setup on both boxes?
[02:22] <tbotnik> all: Hey....can anyone help me (and my friend) connect wirelessly with Ubuntu?
[02:22] <Obeyance> When i typed [ mount | tail -1 ] it echoed " /dev/sda3 on /media/209380432jf3209 "
[02:22] <TheCyph3r> you can try using Empathy...its an IM service
[02:22] <lunarblaze> ok, i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:22] <tbotnik> all: He has no connectivity...and I'm his "eyes and ears" here
[02:22] <comfortsuites> Obeyance: trying to install grub?
[02:23] <tbotnik> all: any help would be appreciated greatly....
[02:23] <lunarblaze> tbotnik: you have network manager running right? what version ubuntu?
[02:23] <goodtime> any
[02:24] <tbotnik> lunarblaze...would you mind chatting privately....this might take some doing....
[02:24] <comfortsuites> !grub
[02:24] <lunarblaze> ok, i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:24] <tbotnik> 10.04 version of Ubuntu...the network manager is apparently corrupted....
[02:25] <spencer__> release 10.04- trying to get my wireless working. eth0 ok. equipment type is cisco-linksys e1000. The problem is that I can't secure the line. the default works ok.
[02:25] <[THC]AcidRain> just to be sure. superoneclick works on ubuntu right?
[02:25] <CLF1> Can anyone tell me why I can't change my USB HD permissions It keeps reverting to "forbidden" and can't seem to see it on network
[02:26] <TheCyph3r> dli: Okay I have it figured out....one question though, is there any way to turn off the ssh hosting on the box?
[02:26] <lfender> so im still new to ubuntu but were could i find some cool desktop stuff or widgets like stuff
[02:27] <Monotoko> lfender, you probably want to look into compiz
[02:27] <lunarblaze> lfender, have you tried the software center? :p
[02:27] <Logan_> !screenlets | lfender
[02:27] <Monotoko> TheCyph3r, to turn off ssh server just run: /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[02:28] <lfender> thanks
[02:28] <lunarblaze> yep
[02:30] <spencer__> release 10.04- trying to get my wireless working. eth0 ok. equipment type is cisco-linksys e1000. The problem is that I can't secure the line. the default works ok. how to secure the link?
[02:30] <blottoman> I was connected to my work VPN the other day and working.  Left my computer for a bit and when I returned it was locked up.  I rebooted and now I'm unable to connect to the VPN.  The syslog isn't very descriptive.  The only thing I really see in the "VPN Plugin Failed"
[02:31] <blottoman> Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:31] <zachlr> When I first installed Ubuntu, I remember being asked "Don't ask for a password, Ask for a password at logon, or Ask for a password to decrypt my home directory"  Is it too late to enable home directory encryption after Ubuntu is installed and I've been using it?  Where can I find more information about this?
[02:32] <TheCyph3r> Monotoko: Very good, thanks!
[02:32] <CLF1> Can someone please help me with a problem seeing my USB hard drive on network.  permissions keep reverting back to "forbidden"
[02:32] <Monotoko> TheCyph3r, no problem...if you don't need to the server you can uninstall it using sudo apt-get remove openssh
[02:33] <andantino> a little off topic but are there support rooms for computer brands
[02:33] <Monotoko> TheCyph3r, otherwise it will come back on reboot...you can use this to stop it completly though: update-rc.d ssh remove
[02:33] <TheCyph3r> monotoko: Well the isntall i used was "sudo apt-get install ssh"  , so would it be "sudo apt-get remove ssh" ?
[02:34] <comfortsuites> I just did 'sudo update-grub' and I'm not dual-booting, will i see the grub menu now when i boot? and if so how do i reverse what i just did
[02:35] <Monotoko> TheCyph3r, perhaps...I can't quite remember at the moment
[02:35] <alazare619> im having a problem im on xubuntu but i dont have the shared folders icon can someone help me?
[02:36] <alazare619> im trying to setup a few smb shares nothing over the top or complex like virtual directorys (gadmin-samba)
[02:36] <TheCyph3r> monotoko: well, I can try a few things. And if nothing works, I can always come back in here and bug people with my newbie questions :P
[02:36] <Monotoko> TheCyph3r, it's all part of the learning process :)
[02:38] <alazare619> im having a problem im on xubuntu but i dont have the shared folders icon can someone help me?
[02:38] <alazare619> im trying to setup a few smb shares nothing over the top or complex like virtual directorys (gadmin-samba)
[02:38] <TooTall> Hey everybody check this cool chat room out #theedj
[02:38] <comfortsuites> I just did 'sudo update-grub' and I'm not dual-booting, will i see the grub menu now when i boot? and if so how do i reverse what i just did
[02:39] <lunarblaze> ok, i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:39] <TheCyph3r> monotoko: I wish there was an "end all be all" book that I could read and just know as much as possible :/
[02:39] <alazare619> comfortsuites,  hold down shift
[02:39] <alazare619> comfortsuites, to see grub
[02:39] <comfortsuites> what?
[02:39] <comfortsuites> im not trying to see grub and im not dual booting
[02:40] <comfortsuites> I just did 'sudo update-grub' and I'm not dual-booting, will i see the grub menu now when i boot? and if so how do i reverse what i just did
[02:40] <alazare619> comfortsuites,  update grub.cfg time to 0 and it wont show then
[02:43] <alazare619>  for some reason i dont have the shared folders icon under start menu > system > shared folders im trying to setup a few smb shares nothing over the top or complex like virtual directorys (gadmin-samba)
[02:44] <lunarblaze> im trying to reformat a drive., i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:44] <TheCyph3r> Noobish question, but is Nautilus essentially the counterpart to Windows Explorer?
[02:45] <lunarblaze> basicly yes :p
[02:45] <TheCyph3r> Ahh, okay...lol still learning!
[02:45] <lunarblaze> heres a cool trick
[02:46] <lunarblaze> in a console, type gksudo nautilus for unrestricted file access
[02:46] <lunarblaze> console=terminal
[02:47] <lunarblaze> TheCyph3r: catch that?
[02:47] <qin> Sweet.
[02:47] <lunarblaze> im trying to reformat a drive., i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:48] <lunarblaze> still cant get this mini card to format -.-
[02:48] <spencer__> to answer my own question. use your   for cisco-linksys e1000 browser to make the setup.
[02:48] <TheCyph3r> lunarblaze: what does that do?
[02:48] <lunarblaze> you know how some files cant be messed with cause of permissions?
[02:48] <lunarblaze> this lets you get around that
[02:49] <lunarblaze> opens a window, and the window can modify anything
[02:49] <TheCyph3r> ahh
[02:49] <spencer__> to answer my own question. use your   browser to make the setup for cisco-linksys e1000 .
[02:49] <SejmL> hello ppl
[02:49] <TheCyph3r> If I'm having that trouble, I'll just end up looking up the terminal commands to move or extract stuff :P
[02:49] <TheCyph3r> helps me learn
[02:49] <SejmL> i just installed gnome3 on ubuntu 11.04 and it looks horrible
[02:49] <lunarblaze> heres another, use ctr=alt=F7 to get out of this
[02:49] <SejmL> any1 usin Gnome shell on ubuntu?
[02:50] <lunarblaze> = are plus, sorry
[02:50] <lunarblaze> now use ctrl+alt+ F1
[02:50] <lunarblaze> are you looking for a command?
[02:50] <qin> !who > lunarblaze
[02:52] <lunarblaze> im trying to reformat a drive., i used this command: sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/mini    and got this mkfs.ext4: invalid blocks count
[02:52] <lunarblaze> can anyone help with this?
[02:52] <qin> TheCyph3r: All (almost) linux is well documented, man is first step to enlightement, man ls, man cd, man cp, man mv, for a starter.
[02:52] <qin> lunarblaze: fsck?
[02:52] <chronos00> Hello, Does anybody know how to use the VESA video driver instead of the current one, for Ubuntu 10.04 or newer?
[02:52] <Obeyance> Would someone be willing to help me Chroot?
[02:52] <lunarblaze> qin: what?
[02:53] <lunarblaze> qin: am i using the wrong command?
[02:53] <Internetpc> Hi....can anyone pl give me the link  to download samba .deb packages  ?
[02:54] <qin> lunarblaze: http://linux.die.net/man/8/fsck
[02:54] <Shaba1> can anyone here instruct me in xchat
[02:54] <harrumph> hi.  i seem to be missing apache2's mod_log_config.  it doesn't appear in either /etc/apache2/mods-enabled  or /mods-available.  any idea?
[02:54] <TheCyph3r> qin: Thanks! I'll check all that out
[02:54] <qin> Internetpc: I think smb (server and client) is in repos
[02:55] <Internetpc> qin : means ?
[02:55] <qin> Shaba1: /join #xchat or ask precise question, what do you want to do.
[02:55] <Shaba1> specifically is it possible to get the multiple channles that one is on into seperate windows rather then tabs at the bottom?
[02:55] <Shaba1> Yeah I tried the qin
[02:55] <qin> Internetpc: sudo apt-get install samba
[02:55] <TheCyph3r> "detach" ?
[02:56] <lunarblaze> qin: it returned this The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[02:56] <lunarblaze> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[02:56] <lunarblaze> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[02:56] <lunarblaze> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[02:56] <lunarblaze>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[02:56] <FloodBot1> lunarblaze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <lunarblaze> i didnt know there was that much, my bad
[02:56] <Internetpc> qin : I want to install samba on a mochine without an internet connection..
[02:56] <Shaba1> and nothing showed up
[02:56] <Shaba1> Ok I forgot the 3
[02:57] <Shaba1> # rather
[02:57] <tbotnik> all: Can anyone help me with a wireless networking configuration problem?
[02:57] <Shaba1> I am use to mirc where you can just type /j xchat
[02:57] <kevvooo> technical help?
[02:58] <lunarblaze> nvm, ill just use windows to format it
[02:58] <Internetpc> qin : what tp do in that case ?
[02:58] <Internetpc> qin : to*
[02:58] <kevvooo> anyone know how to resolve a grub error im having?
[02:58] <Lal-Ohlal> hi
[02:58] <Lal-Ohlal> how do I delete a hidden folder in Ubuntu?
[02:59] <lunarblaze> ctrl+h to see it
[02:59] <Lal-Ohlal> thanks mate
 : First unhide a hidden folder by Ctrt+H and delete it normally..
[02:59] <Lal-Ohlal> cheers
[02:59] <kevvooo> grub recover>      anyone??
[02:59] <lunarblaze> Lal-Ohlal: if it has permissions locked use gksudo nautilus in a command line
[03:00] <tauntaun> I'm having trouble getting modifier keys (ALT, CTRL, etc.) to behave consistently across clients, and also to behave in the specific ways I want them to.  (E.g., sometimes ALT is the Escape key).  Does one address this only with xmodmap, or are there also other layers of X (or of the OS) that should be tweaked/set?
[03:00] <nit-wit> kevvooo, what's up
[03:00] <Lal-Ohlal> how do i look
[03:01] <kevvooo> i deleted ubuntu the other day incorrectly i think, now when i boot up i get a "no such partition" then "grub recover>"
[03:01] <Lal-Ohlal> mara wadrega bius lag sabr oka sok ba pake pakhtun hum raozy
[03:01] <kevvooo> wtf
[03:01] <TheCyph3r> parlez-vous l'anglais?
[03:01] <TheCyph3r> lol
[03:01] <nit-wit> kevvooo, what operating systems are on there now?
[03:01] <Lal-Ohlal> ola
[03:02] <chronos00> Hello, Does anybody know how to use the VESA video driver instead of the current one, for Ubuntu 10.04 or newer?
[03:02] <Internetpc> please tell me where can I download Samba ? I want to install it on a machine without internet..
[03:02] <kevvooo> well, originally windows 7, now im just running off of the live cd
[03:02] <Lal-Ohlal> gracias
[03:02] <Lal-Ohlal> bonita
[03:02] <qin> Internetpc: sudo apt-get install -d samba , will download .deb and you can find them in apt cache.
[03:02] <Lal-Ohlal> senorita
[03:02] <nit-wit> kevvooo, so W7 is still there and thats all.
[03:02] <Lal-Ohlal> mamma mia
[03:03] <Lal-Ohlal> kunyano
[03:03] <qin> Internetpc: You will need same version (number and arch) of ubuntu.
[03:03] <kevvooo> well.. yes.. i deleted the partition that ubuntu was on and left the main partition with win7
[03:03] <chronos00> @qin @internetpc would you need to download dependencies as well?
[03:03] <Internetpc> qin : where can I find it ?? pl tell me the path..
[03:03] <kevvooo> it was fine until i rebooted
[03:03] <JoAnneThrax> Hey all.  Did someone say something to me between, say, 5:30CST and 6:45CST on here?  I got a highlight that someone said my name, but it scrolled off my log.
[03:03] <nit-wit> kevvooo, well grub is of no use with a OS, but we can get W7 up and running.
[03:03] <nit-wit> kevvooo, sorry without a OS
[03:03] <JoAnneThrax> That would be, like 4.5 hours ago.
[03:04] <nit-wit> kevvooo, grub needs a linux OS to run basically.
[03:04] <kevvooo> ok...
[03:04] <dante123> hi all, wondering if it is wise or not to have swap file on internal sd drive (will swap file wear it out prematurely)
[03:04] <dante123> this is on a dell mini 9
[03:05] <TheCyph3r> is there any way to TURN OFF ssh? or do I just uninstall?
[03:05] <dante123> with tiny hard drive
 : Ok
[03:05] <nit-wit> kevvooo, if you have a windows disc we can restore W7, or install lilo a bootloader that will boot W7.
[03:05] <dante123> drive which is really sd card
[03:05] <qin> Internetpc: What about: find / -type f -name "*.deb"
[03:05] <kevvooo> yeah thats the issue, i never had a w7 disc
[03:05] <qin> Internetpc: add proper -atime and you are home
[03:06] <qin> Internetpc: With sudo...
[03:06] <FiremanEd> JoAnneThrax: You can pull up today's channel log at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/07/21/
[03:06] <TooTall> hello everybody
[03:06] <slide> I have an remote headless ubuntu server that I would like to backup. Essentially I want to transfer the entire harddrive to my local computer as an image of some sort. How can I do this with the machine running?
[03:06] <dante123> any problems installing to internal sd drive and NOT having a swap file (I heard swap will wear the sd drive out)  is that true?
[03:06] <Obeyance> Ok im almost done with a CHroot to reinstall grub. Im stuck on unmounting things. It says that /dev and /mnt "Device is busy."
[03:07] <qin> Shaba1: You mean split window?
[03:07] <Shaba1> yes
[03:07] <Internetpc> qin : I am unable to get it
[03:07] <Obeyance> should i just restart anyway?
[03:07] <JoAnneThrax> FiremanEd: Thanks!
[03:07] <Shaba1> qin hold on i just spilled
[03:07] <Obeyance> because after umount commands is sudo reboot.
[03:07] <dante123> any problems installing to internal sd drive and NOT having a swap file (I heard swap will wear the sd drive out)  is that true?
[03:08] <upgrdman> anyone know of a netbook with a touchscreen other than the dell duo? must be a netbook ... needs to be lightweight with 7+ hours of battery life (which the dell doesnt meet)
[03:08] <Obeyance> Or is it imperitive that i unmount EVERYTHING first?
[03:08] <qin> Internetpc: Why?
[03:08] <Shaba1> ok I am back
[03:08] <Internetpc> I have downloaded the file from "sudo apt-get install -d samba" .Where is it saved ??
[03:09] <Shaba1> qin: I mirc there is a button named "tile window"
[03:09] <Internetpc> qin :I have downloaded the file from "sudo apt-get install -d samba" .Where is it saved ??
[03:09] <Obeyance> Someone plz help me, it shouldnt take but a second to answer.
[03:09] <qin> Internetpc: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:09] <TheCyph3r> monotoko: strange, I'm trying the   /etc/init.d/ssh stop   command, but it didnt work
[03:09] <Shaba1> you can press it and all the channel windows that you have open will neatly arrange themselves within the main mirc window
[03:09] <dante123> ActionParsnip any problems installing to internal sd drive and NOT having a swap file (I heard swap will wear the sd drive out)  is that true?
[03:09] <Shaba1> that is what I am talking about
[03:09] <Obeyance> Im so close to fixing it... i just dont know about this issue.
[03:09] <TheCyph3r> monotoko: I tried adding sudo to it, and it returned something strange
[03:10] <JoAnneThrax> Oh...it was just spam with a bunch of people's names attached.  How annoying.
[03:11] <Internetpc> qin : wait..
[03:11] <Obeyance> =(
[03:11] <Obeyance> sooooo close.
[03:11] <Obeyance> All i need is a yes or no answer and im done and can go on with my business.
[03:11] <pawtracksrbxl> I keep geting this error when I try to install something from the app store. It keeps saying  Sorry, the  program "aptd" closed unexpectedly.
[03:12] <pawtracksrbxl> Im running the latest version of ubuntu Wubi
[03:12] <qin> Obeyance: Repeat reall quertion? lsof to see open files, maybe this why it is busy.
[03:13] <qin> My typping sounds like: coffee.
[03:13] <Obeyance> I have completed 13 of 16 steps in a CHroot to reinstall grub. What im having an issue is when i try to umount /dev and /mnt it says that they are busy... But the only thing i have running is the terminal.
[03:13] <Obeyance> These are the last steps before restarting and fixed.
[03:14] <qin> Obeyance: /dev what?
[03:14] <Obeyance> sudo umount /mnt
[03:14] <Obeyance> for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[03:14] <Obeyance> gives me the /dev is busy.
[03:15] <tbotnik> can anyone help my friend with a network connectivity issue?
[03:15] <Logan_> !away >derp|gone
[03:16] <mouse> to be clear would i be correct in saying that gpartition cannot do FAT16 and therefore i have to partition to a 4mb partition? i'm lost?
[03:16] <mouse> it's late
[03:16] <Obeyance> so would it be save to just reboot or do i need to wait for those to not be busy and unmount them?
[03:16] <Obeyance> Or... something.
[03:17] <Logan_> rww: ?
[03:18] <pawtracksrbxl> I keep geting this error when I try to install something from the app store. It keeps saying  Sorry, the  program "aptd" closed unexpectedly.
[03:18] <Shaba1> Ok I just tried to do and update which the software center recommended
 will it got all 135mb of 160 mb of downloads and then stopped
 it said that it lost data connection
 but I am still here and logged on.
 Well on the net
[03:18] <FloodBot1> Shaba1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:18] <qin> Obeyance: lsof | grep "/dev"; mount
[03:19] <DamnSoGooD> i need help, i had a snail SSD, therefore i decided to just install ubuntu into a USB stick, how can i do it properly?
[03:19] <Obeyance> qin, then?
[03:19] <Obeyance> unmount?
[03:19] <qin> Obeyance: You can umount them one by one, and find right order.
[03:19] <pawtracksrbxl> Little help please?
[03:20] <pawtracksrbxl> I keep geting this error when I try to install something from the app store. It keeps saying  Sorry, the  program "aptd" closed unexpectedly.
[03:20] <onez> hi all...
[03:20] <Obeyance> I dont understand what you just had me do.
[03:20] <Shaba1> any ideas
[03:20] <Shaba1> ??
[03:20] <Obeyance> i had a huge list echo back but i dont know what it did.
[03:20] <onez> what is USB audio interface work in ubuntu? help me please
[03:20] <qin> Obeyance: Care to highlight?
[03:21] <Obeyance> Its just a bunch of stuff, want me to pastebin?
[03:21] <qin> Obeyance: me?
[03:21] <Obeyance> Im new to linux so i dont know much about this, i was just wanting to know if i needed to unmount those drives or w/e before i rebooted to see if grub is fixed =\
[03:22] <Obeyance> Yes qin, =).
[03:24] <qin> Obeyance: If you unmount you will be 100% sure that things are sasy. But reboot _propably_ will "fix" it anyway.
[03:24] <Obeyance> k cause its only /dev and /mnt that wont umount.
[03:25] <pawtracksrbxl> I keep geting this error when I try to install something from the app store. It keeps saying  Sorry, the  program "aptd" closed unexpectedly.
[03:25] <qin> Obeyance: What is still in: mount
[03:25] <Obeyance> Im gonna try to just reboot then. If it fails i guess i can always try try again.
[03:26] <Obeyance> The only thing mounted that i see is the 187GB filesystem which is sda3
[03:26] <qin> pawtracksrbxl: In terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgarde; sudo apt-get install -f
[03:26] <Obeyance> it wont unmount, says its busy.
[03:26] <Obeyance> So im guessing that is the reason that /dev and /mnt wont unmount.
[03:26] <Obeyance> And say theya re busy.
[03:26] <pawtracksrbxl> qin: Thanks
[03:26] <Obeyance> Might be a LIVECD bug...
[03:27] <Justin-home> anybody interested in answering an openvpn config question, running ubuntu server 64 in PM?
[03:28] <Obeyance> Im rebooting anyway. If its all fubared then i will just reinstall the whole lot i guess.
[03:28] <Obeyance> No data on the drive other then the OS and user settings.
[03:28] <qin> Obeyance: Finger croseed
[03:29] <Obeyance> Grub is operational... and light purple =\
[03:29] <Obeyance> lol
[03:29] <pawtracksrbxl> The new ubuntu interface is hard to use
[03:29] <pawtracksrbxl> :/
[03:30] <Obeyance> yeah i didnt like it either.
[03:30] <qin> !classic
[03:30] <Obeyance> Just use the classic
[03:30] <pawtracksrbxl> Thanks
[03:31] <Obeyance> K now to install drivers on the windows OS =S
[03:31] <Logan_> !ask | Justin-home
[03:32] <onez> anyone can help me? what is the best USB 2.0 audio interface work in linux
[03:33] <c0d> Eae pessoal, alquem sabe como mover um arquivo .php para a pasta do servidor web xampp
[03:34] <stephenthemartyr> can anyone help me or point me to the right place
[03:34] <c0d> pelo terminal
[03:34] <rww> !pt | c0d
[03:34] <Logan_> !pt | c0d
[03:34] <Shaba1> Ok I somehow restarted the recommeneded updates
[03:34] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, what are you looking for?
[03:34] <Shaba1> its now doing 307mb of updates rather then 165 :(
[03:34] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Exactly.
[03:34] <c0d> ops, mals, pensei que já estava no #ubuntu-br
[03:35] <tianrific> hey , I just install ubuntu to my laptop , and there are two OS on my computer now -- ubuntu and win7. after I installed ubuntu, my computer's wireless receiver stopped working. does anyone know how to shoot this trouble ?
[03:35] <stephenthemartyr> i have ubuntu studio and earlier some kinda graphics x crash happened and now jack had like 100 x-runs in 5 minutes and very high cpu even tho it was fine last night,not sure if this is a good place to ask or not
[03:36] <[THC]AcidRain> tianrific: ive AWLAYS had problems out of ubuntu handling my wifi card
[03:36] <mystiqueba> tianrific: which version do you have installed?
[03:37] <tianrific> I have 10.04 installed
[03:37] <iDRINKbLEACH> tianrific I have same problem, i am eager to read any posted soutions
[03:37] <dbruns> I'm having trouble using Wine with Ubuntu 11.04.. I've got a Radeon 5870 video card and I'm using the driver that ubuntu recommended.   WHen I try to install SC2 (which is supposed to work very well in wine), I see the windows, but no buttons or animations.    Could this be a driver issue?   Would an Nvidia 9500GT (my other video card) work better with Ubuntu?
[03:38] <tianrific> the wierd thing is when I have only win7, wifi works fine
[03:38] <dbruns> How is the video Driver in Ubuntu 11.04 configured? I'd like to try the one I downloaded from ATI's site
[03:38] <tianrific> but after I have ubuntu. wifi does not work on either os
[03:38] <computer_> hi! I'm using 11.04. In the last month i keep being ask to enter a password before i am connected to the local network at home even though the laptop is set to automatically login on start-up anyone know why his started and how to fix?
[03:38] <mystiqueba> I am no expert but I had the same problem and it almost drove me nuts
[03:39] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, I would think you're okay here there is also a #ubuntustudio   channel
[03:39] <dbruns> tianrific, are you certain you didn't bump the switch on the side of your laptop to turn wireless on/off?
[03:39] <iDRINKbLEACH> tianrific same here I have winxp and ubuntu 11,04
[03:39] <mystiqueba> what I did was to upgrade to 11.04 and then it worked
[03:39] <tianrific> I am sure I have the switch on
[03:39] <stephenthemartyr> what do you mean ok?
[03:39] <TheCyph3r> is there any way to verify my freenode pw BEFORE getting in here? :P
[03:39] <TooTall> this is a popular chat room
[03:39] <dbruns> TheCyph3r, what IRC client are you using?
[03:39] <qin> tianrific: rfkill list
[03:40] <TheCyph3r> dbruns: XChat
[03:40] <tianrific> seems like the problem I have here is a very common one
[03:40] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, I'm not a admin I assume that your problem is appropriate for this channel
[03:40] <Carlos> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Natty_Installation_Guide
[03:40] <stephenthemartyr> ok sorry <nit-wit> thanks for helpin
[03:40] <suicidal> hey guys, i tried to join my friend's channel, he is on microsoft version of irc, is it possible?
[03:41] <TooTall> i am getting sea sick
[03:41] <tianrific> qin: what do you mean ?
[03:41] <nit-wit> #windows
[03:41] <qin> suicidal: Sure
[03:41] <suicidal> well
[03:41] <suicidal> the channel name
[03:41] <suicidal> is cyaamigoz
[03:41] <computer_> stephen? paul's bro?
[03:41] <nit-wit> #windows
[03:41] <dbruns> TheCyph3r, go to preferences, networks, then freenode edit and enter your nickserv pw there
[03:41] <TooTall> lots of infomation
[03:41] <suicidal> i tped /join #cyaamgioz and nothing happened
[03:41] <qin> tianrific: Command is: rfkill list (to see swiches)
[03:41] <suicidal> typed* , i also did /query cyaamigoz
[03:42] <suicidal> why wont those work/how do i do it?
[03:42] <TheCyph3r> dbruns: thanks!
[03:42] <nit-wit> suicidal, #windows
[03:42] <TooTall> whatch this
[03:42] <ubuntudude> How do I update ubuntu
[03:42] <suicidal> #windows what?
[03:42] <qin> suicidal: Is you friend on undernet.org ?
[03:42] <nit-wit> suicidal, sorry##windows
[03:42] <suicidal> idk :(
[03:42] <TooTall> one
[03:42] <TooTall> two
[03:42] <rww> suicidal: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support. For questions about the IRC network in general, please see #freenode.
[03:42] <TooTall> three
[03:42] <stephenthemartyr> can anyone help me i have a dual-boot windowsxp/ubuntustudio10.04 and there was some graphics x crash and then after i restarted it acted normal except the screensavers wont run and when i turned on jackaudio to record with ardour and hydrogen drums i had like 100 x-runs but it was working great before the graphics crash,are they related?
[03:42] <suicidal> nit-wit: type in quotes what i should do to to join the channel "cyaamigoz"
[03:43] <tianrific> does any one actually have an answer to my question? or should I try some other channel
[03:43] <nit-wit> suicidal,    "##windows"
[03:43] <TooTall> try another channel
[03:43] <ubuntudude> How do I update Ubuntu?
[03:43] <suicidal> thanks
[03:43] <suicidal> ##windows
[03:43] <suicidal> nothing happened.
[03:43] <nit-wit> ubuntudude, sudo apt-get update in the terninal
[03:43] <rww> suicidal: "/join ##windows"
[03:43] <mystiqueba> tianrific: I had to connect to an ethernet cable and then do the update
[03:43] <ubuntudude> nit-wit: TY
[03:43] <nit-wit> *terminal
[03:44] <nit-wit> ubuntudude, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:44] <tianrific> mystiqueba: what kind of update do I have to do ?
[03:44] <csdserver> tianrific - did you have to tell your router to clone an address in order to communicate with your modem?  you might have to do the same via your edit
[03:44] <dbruns> what is the firefox addon that lets me trick sites like adobe.com to think I'm on windows so they let me download windows software
[03:44] <tianrific> mystique: do I have to do it on both linux and windows ?
[03:44] <TheCyph3r> dbruns: perfect, that worked
[03:44] <mystiqueba> no
[03:45] <rww> dbruns: User Agent Switcher?
[03:45] <dbruns> Yes thanks!!
[03:45] <mystiqueba> with mine, I just upgraded the ubuntu to 11.04
[03:45] <computer_> anyone:hi! I'm using 11.04. In the last month i keep being ask to enter a password before i am connected to the local network at home even though the laptop is set to automatically login on start-up anyone know why his started and how to fix?
[03:45] <user> How can I see what type of usb my disks are plugged into?
[03:45] <mystiqueba> I have no idea why wifi didn't work on the previous version
[03:45] <Carlos> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[03:45] <Carlos> sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:46] <stephenthemartyr> any help would be oh so much appreciated,although i realize its busy here
[03:46] <tianrific> csdserver: my wifi card doesn't pick up any signals at all . the light is not even on
[03:46] <dbruns> rww, wanted to download photoshop and try it with wine, but it refused to let me since i'm not on windows :(..
[03:46] <csdserver> tianrific - and it works under you win7 boot?
[03:46] <dbruns> tianrific, if the light isn't on.. try switching the wireless switch on the laptop.
[03:47] <tianrific> csdserver: it works on win7 before I install ubuntu
[03:47] <qin> tianrific: Did you try: rfkill list; lspci; ifconfig?
[03:47] <redgone> hey guys, where is the audio device file? /dev/dsp isnt on my system
[03:47] <nit-wit> computer_, right click the network manager icon the edit click on the wireless, and click connect automatically
[03:47] <dli> redeyyez, /dev/snd/*
[03:47] <dli> redgone, /dev/snd/
[03:47] <redgone> thanks
[03:47] <tianrific> dbruns: I turned the switch on , but the light is still off
[03:48] <dbruns> tianrific, what model/brand laptop is it
[03:48] <tianrific> qin: I didn't try those commands . I don't have those commands on win7
[03:48] <qin> tianrific: /join ##windows
[03:48] <TheCyph3r> dli: I've got an SSH question for you now
[03:48] <csdserver> It might be something conflicting in your MBR that causes it to not initialize your device too.
[03:48] <tianrific> dbruns: it is lenovo
[03:48] <dbruns> tianrific, what model
[03:49] <csdserver> or switches something on when it should stay off...
[03:50] <dbruns> tianrific, have you tried plugging it in so you can get an internet connection and download the proper drivers??
[03:50] <tianrific> dbruns: it is zhaoyang E43L
[03:50] <dbruns> tianrific, yeah the wireless drivers won't be included for that one.. so you'll need to connect via ethernet to get them
[03:51] <tianrific> dbruns, but did wifi card stop working on win7 too ?
[03:51] <TheCyph3r> I've got an SSH question when someone has a chance
[03:51] <stephenthemartyr> is there another channel where i might be able to get help?
[03:51] <qin> !ask > TheCyph3r
[03:52] <dli> TheCyph3r, yes, always ask the channel, and do not ask to ask
[03:52] <csdserver> tianrific - which OS are you letting manage your boot, grub or win?
[03:53] <TheCyph3r> I removed SSH to shut it off, then found a script that can shut it off w/o removal. Reinstalled, now I can't run "ssh localhost"
[03:53] <tianrific> csdserver, I used grub
[03:53] <dli> TheCyph3r, sudo service ssh start
[03:54] <dbruns> tianrific, you may have to play around in your BIOS settings  and see if there is some sort of toggle switch for it
[03:54] <qin> TheCyph3r: Have you not remove it? You mean "uninstall"?
[03:54] <chome> is there a channel to discuss lmms?
[03:54] <TheCyph3r> dli: Thanks! That did the job
[03:55] <tianrific> dbruns, toggle switch for my boot setting ?
[03:55] <TheCyph3r> qin: I did an uninstall with  sudo apt-get remove ssh
[03:56] <qin> TheCyph3r: No biggie.
[03:56] <csdserver> tianrific - i'm going to suggest hooking up to a hard link to get updates/drivers etc if you haven't already.  if you have done that then inspect your bootlog and see if it's failing on detection or if it's even logged at all.
[03:57] <TheCyph3r> qin: I've been trying to get that fixed for a half hour now >.<
[03:57] <chome> is there a channel to discuss lmms?
[03:57] <qin> !alis
[03:57] <chome> im getting good, need some tips
[03:57] <csdserver> tianrific - did you let ubuntu manage your partition or did you do it yourself?
[03:58] <tianrific> csdserver, I let ubuntu managed my partition
[03:58] <stephenthemartyr> anyone familiar with a graphics x crash?
[03:58] <tianrific> csdserver, is that bad ?
[03:59] <csdserver> tianrific, usually not
[03:59] <stephenthemartyr> or know why it would cause jack to have x-runs?
[04:01] <matoy> why is there a game account?
[04:01] <matoy> in ubuntu server
[04:03] <ryty1> hiya
[04:03] <ryty1> looking for some help with getting my highpoint rocketraid r640 controller working for install
[04:04] <ryty1> I was able to get the driver installed during my last attempt, but I opened gparted and everything froze up
[04:04] <stephenthemartyr> how do i switch channels?
[04:04] <ryty1> right now I'm booted using the live cd
[04:04] <ryty1> trying to install on this brand new ssd
[04:05] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, /join (channel)
sorry to be so dumb but where do i put that?
[04:07] <naptastic> I'm compiling a custom kernel (which I've done many times before) and am getting a new error: dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-3.0.0-rc7-rt0 not in control info
[04:07] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, like you were posting
[04:08] <stephenthemartyr> ok
thanks
[04:08] <luckysmack> my main desktop is ubuntu natty. which will be the main workstation. Another ubuntu desktop in my living room, and a windows laptop. what would be the best way to setup filesharing between the 3 over the network? i have 2 x 2TB external drives on my main workstation i would like to be able to share with my livingroom computer to play movies off the drive. similarly with the laptop
[04:08] <naptastic> I've googled and it seems to have to do with a change in kpkg, config-auto-append, --append-to-version, and the kernel config option for appending version information.
[04:08] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, no problem.
[04:08] <luckysmack> ive seen multiple articles on how to do it but im not sure of the best way to set it up
[04:08] <naptastic> Since that's a lot of variables to independently check, I wonder if anyone here has solved it already?
[04:10] <stephenthemartyr> is this ubuntu studio channel?
[04:10] <share> !studio
[04:10] <share> stephenthemartyr: #ubuntustudio
[04:11] <ubuntudude> is their ubuntu studio wubi?
[04:11] <nit-wit> stephenthemartyr, it would be /join "#ubuntustudio"   without the quotes
[04:12] <tomek_> hi who can recommend me virtualization software for ubuntu?
[04:12] <tomek_> i need to run windows programs...
[04:12] <share> tomek_: use Wine or Virtualmachine with VirtualBox
[04:12] <tomek_> share:vmware is worse?
[04:13] <share> tomek_: vmware is not free
[04:13] <blade> win programs or games?
[04:13] <tomek_> yes
[04:13] <tomek_> programs,games maybe
[04:13] <blade> if games you can also use playonlinux
[04:13] <nit-wit> tomek_, can you dual bot it?
[04:14] <nit-wit> *boot
[04:14] <tomek_> yes
[04:14] <TheCyph3r> so...is there just a "shoot the shit" channel for ubuntu?
[04:14] <IdleOne> !ot
[04:14] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <blade> tomek google something called ultimatex
[04:14] <TheCyph3r> thanks nit
[04:15] <IdleOne> TheCyph3r: Please keep the language clean here and there :)
[04:15] <share> !language | TheCyph3r
[04:15] <nit-wit> TheCyph3r, no prb.
[04:15] <TheCyph3r> Sorry :-/ Just been a very longggg week
[04:15] <TheCyph3r> nit-wit: Preciate it
[04:15] <rww> !ultamatix | blade
[04:16] <blade> ok sorry did not know that
[04:16] <TheCyph3r> harrumph: blazing saddles reference?
[04:16] <nit-wit> so let me
[04:16] <harrumph> TheCyph3r: give the governor a harrumph!
[04:17] <blade> how is the new ubuntu 11 4 with dual vid cards on unity?
[04:18] <blade> from what i have read on unity i am a little gun shy to go to the 11 4
[04:18] <nit-wit> harrumph, for your pleasure.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY
[04:20] <harrumph> nit-wit: :)
[04:21] <blade> no thoughts on unity?
[04:22] <louzer> When I ran Ubuntu 11.04 CD installer, I cannot see the GUI if I choose to install/use live CD.
[04:22] <IsmAvatar> blade: my thoughts are it should have been kept in incubation for another 2 years :-p
[04:22] <louzer> Can anyone help?
[04:22] <blade> lol
[04:22] <blade> so i should not make the jump to 11 4
[04:22] <blade> what graphics card do you run louzer
[04:23] <IsmAvatar> blade: If you value Gnome 2, you'd be wise to stick with 10
[04:23] <louzer> nvidia.. something every high end
[04:23] <blade> onboard?
[04:23] <louzer> blade: wait
[04:23] <TheCyph3r> nit-wit: I was going to post that!
[04:23] <IsmAvatar> louzer: does it have an actual card, or is it just a chipset that came with the mobo
[04:24] <nit-wit> louzer, boot the cd ho;d down the shift at the gui if you get one hit f6 then nomodeset then bot
[04:24] <louzer> hi all, i have an actual card GeForce GT 330
[04:24] <louzer> nit-wit: what does that do
[04:24] <nit-wit> louzer, it is a lowgraphics mode
[04:25] <louzer> nit-wit: thanks
[04:25] <louzer> blade: thanks for asking
[04:25] <louzer> IsmAvatar: thanks for asking
[04:25] <blade> np
[04:25] <nit-wit> louzer, you will need the nomodeset command on the reboot from the install but in the kernel line, to get you in to install your driver for the card
[04:26] <IsmAvatar> Looking for a little help with Flash applications. They tend to show black regions, like the refreshing is all wrong or something. I was wondering if this was a known bug with Adobe flash, and if there was a viable workaround?
[04:26] <louzer> nit-wit: hmm ok
[04:26] <blade> firefox?
[04:26] <IsmAvatar> blade: yes
[04:26] <louzer> nit-wit: lets hope the GUI wont look ugly
[04:27] <blade> firefox has an addon for flash help
[04:27] <nit-wit> IsmAvatar, install the FF addon flashaid, that should get you the latest and cleaned up
[04:27] <blade> that's the one
[04:27] <louzer> gotta go nit-wit
[04:27] <blade> if your running x64 it works like a charm
[04:27] <nit-wit> louzer, good luck
[04:27] <louzer> will be back  if shit happned
[04:27] <IsmAvatar> blade/nit-wit, ok, i'll look into that. Thanks.
[04:27] <nit-wit> IsmAvatar, I think it is flash aid
[04:28] <nit-wit> space in the words
[04:28] <blade> yes nit-wit
[04:28] <IdleOne> !language | louzer
[04:28] <blade> just do a search in the add on's for firefox
[04:29] <IsmAvatar> blade: pretty sure I'm running 32 bit everything. Should have done 64 bit probably, since this is a beast of a computer, so I'm probably just holding it back >_>
[04:30] <blade> what cpu you run ismavatar
[04:31] <IsmAvatar> oh, it is 64 bit firefox, according to flash-aid
[04:32] <IsmAvatar> blade: you'll have to help me find that info. It's not like I can just type "cpu" in unity and expect to get an answer anymore :-p
[04:32] <blade> are the red messages private?
[04:32] <rww> blade: no, they're in-channel messages that start with your nick.
[04:33] <DamnSoGooD> could somebody teach me how to install ubuntu 10.04 into a sub stick/pendrive?
[04:33] <blade> ahh
[04:33] <blade> ok thank you
[04:33] <DamnSoGooD> usb*
[04:33] <IsmAvatar> DamnSoGooD: from what OS?
[04:33] <blade> ismavatar type lscpu in terminal
[04:33] <IsmAvatar> lscpu, figures they'd name it something simple like that. First thing I tried was lspci
[04:34] <blade> damnsogood use unetbootin
[04:34] <DamnSoGooD> IsmAvatar, ubuntu 10.04 because my SSD is very unpredictable now, maybe it's wore down already
[04:34] <TheCyph3r> Are there any advantages of using Nautilus over Thunar?
[04:35] <IsmAvatar> DamnSoGooD: there are instructions on the Download page: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[04:35] <blade> damnsogood what brand of thumb drive do you have
[04:35] <louzer> nit-wit: that doesnt help
[04:35] <DamnSoGooD> kingston II
[04:35] <blade> file format?
[04:35] <louzer> nit-wit: nomodset causes the same problem. the installer tries blinks trying to start GUI
[04:35] <louzer> nit-wit: and fails
[04:36] <blade> damnsogood use unetbootin
[04:36] <IsmAvatar> blade: yeah, it says it's x86_64 architecture Intel
[04:36] <DamnSoGooD> anything
[04:36] <nit-wit> louzer, not sure beyond that but this is the channel to find out.
[04:36] <blade> ismavatar how much ram do you run on there?
[04:36] <louzer> nit-wit: thanks
[04:36] <DamnSoGooD> it's for a live usb not a substitute for a \harddrive
[04:37] <gogeta> IsmAvatar: that normaly mean 64 bit
[04:37] <IsmAvatar> blade: found it. 5.6 GiB memory, 2x Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 2.5 GHz ea.
[04:37] <blade> damnsogood yes unetbootin will make your flash drive act just like an install CD
[04:37] <DamnSoGooD> i'm not asking for making a live USb, what i'm asking is how to install ubuntu into usb drive
[04:38] <gogeta> IsmAvatar: dule core is 64bit unless its p3d
[04:38] <IsmAvatar> DamnSoGooD: oh, sorry. Disregard me then.
[04:38] <gogeta> p4d
[04:38] <Guest79909> IsmAvatar: wow, your devices so stronge.
[04:38] <louzer> hi all, does anyone know why would ubuntu 11.04 installer have trouble starting up its GUI when I have an nvidia GeForce GT 330. I tried nomodeset and that did not help either
[04:38] <blade> ismavatar yea i would be willing to bet your running x64 ib on all of it
[04:39] <TheCyph3r> Are there any advantages of using Nautilus over Thunar?
[04:39] <blade> damnsogood you can also use unetbootin to install it on the pen drive and it will act like a small SSD
[04:39] <gogeta> louzer: did you just answer your own question
[04:39] <louzer> gogeta: how
[04:39] <gogeta> louzer: you said will it have issues then said its not working
[04:40] <IsmAvatar> blade: I used a 32 bit ubuntu install CD, iirc
[04:40] <blade> gogeta he has been in and out of here working on this same problem for some time now
[04:40] <DamnSoGooD> blade, but it is still just a live usb taking long to boot, what i want is a permanent install into a USB stick
[04:40] <louzer> gogeta: yes i did reboot to try to install and now im back
[04:40] <gogeta> louzer: your best chance would install it text mode then install the nivida drivers by hand
[04:41] <blade> ismavatar are you in 11 4?
[04:41] <IsmAvatar> blade: yes
[04:41] <louzer> gogeta: hw to install in text mode
[04:41] <gogeta> louzer: if nevu is bugging out
[04:41] <IsmAvatar> unfortunately
[04:41] <gogeta> louzer: alt install cd
[04:41] <blade> damnsogood that is the only way to install on a pen drive that i know of
[04:41] <louzer> gogeta: at boot prompt?
[04:42] <gogeta> louzer: its a diffrent iso with a cli installer
[04:42] <louzer> gogeta: oh got it
[04:42] <blade> ismavatar i am not sure but i think that even if you had the 32 bit it may have upgraded on a update to x64 i think it was 11 4 that i was reading about that was doing that
[04:42] <rww> There is no way to go from 32-bit to 64-bit without reinstalling, so no.
[04:43] <blade> ok
[04:43] <tofa> Hi
[04:43] <bluebird> yep, that's truth.
[04:43] <DamnSoGooD> ok, if that's so, alternatively how can i restore my SSD back to its almost factory condition?
[04:43] <blade> ismavatar then you must have used a x64 install
[04:44] <blade> define "factory condition"
[04:44] <DamnSoGooD> to its original state
[04:44] <blade> original state as in file format?
[04:45] <DamnSoGooD> yes, and there are still files that I cannot delete
[04:45] <blade> what os
[04:45] <blade> Nix or M$
[04:46] <DamnSoGooD> just file systems that still appears in testdisk
[04:46] <IsmAvatar> blade/nit-wit: beautiful. Flash-aid fixed it. Thanks a bunch.
[04:46] <nit-wit> IsmAvatar, cool.
[04:46] <TheCyph3r> Are there any advantages of using Nautilus over Thunar?
[04:46] <blade> damnsogood i understand what you want to do with the drive but what os will you be in when you do the format?
[04:46] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: umm format
[04:47] <DamnSoGooD> ubuntu 10.04
[04:47] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: are you asking how to totaly dod the drive?
[04:47] <xangua> TheCyph3r: advantages of what¿
[04:47] <tofa> My windows partition has disappeared from grub. Can anyone help?
[04:47] <DamnSoGooD> yes
[04:47] <TheCyph3r> xangua: any sort of advantages
[04:47] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: use the dban live cd
[04:47] <xangua> .....
[04:47] <DamnSoGooD> it just failed
[04:48] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: dban did?
[04:48] <blade> damnsogood system admin disk utility
[04:48] <blade> you can format to any file format you want from there
[04:48] <nit-wit> tofa, any activities beforehand, updates in windows or ubuntu...etc
[04:48] <xangua> TheCyph3r: nautilus us a submarine, thunar a hammer, you can destroy submarines with hammerd
[04:48] <xangua> advantage ;)
[04:49] <nit-wit> tofa, have you run sudo update-grub in a terminal?
[04:49] <DamnSoGooD> it seems to be locked
[04:49] <blade> thecyph3r when in doubt install both and try them out.... they are both free
[04:49] <tofa> No I don't think so.
[04:49] <vivekimsit> Which is the best video downloader for ubuntu..?
[04:49] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: dban will kill any data on the drive
[04:49] <xangua> !best | vivekimsit TheCyph3r
[04:49] <nit-wit> tofa, try the suso update-grub command first
[04:50] <nit-wit> *sudo
[04:50] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: just rember it destorys all data
[04:50] <tofa> After it happened I ran sudo fdisk -l in terminal and there is now s star under the boot column for windows.
[04:50] <DamnSoGooD> one time, my SSD with unallocated space does not shows its free and unused space in gparted
[04:50] <tomek_> anyone can recommend visual HTML editor?
[04:51] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: http://www.dban.org/
[04:51] <DamnSoGooD> then the other time, my SSD won't show up in the boot order
[04:51] <blade> damnsogood in disk utility unmount the drive and delete partition then format.... it will be clean as the day it was made
[04:51] <nit-wit> tofa, the star is the boot flag
[04:52] <DamnSoGooD> what would you say about hdparm?
[04:52] <tofa> Nit-wit, I've run sudo update-grub
[04:52] <DamnSoGooD> and testdisk?
[04:52] <bluebird> tomek_: emacs
[04:52] <DamnSoGooD> and dban ? they cannot wipe out my SSD
[04:53] <DamnSoGooD> and my SSD is still a snail
[04:53] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: shure can just use a single pasa to not have a ton of rights
[04:53] <nit-wit> tofa,  crun this script and pastebin the generated text file.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[04:53] <nit-wit> 8run
[04:53] <nit-wit> well
[04:53] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: or boot a ubuntu live cd sudo gparted delete all partation make new ones
[04:53] <nit-wit> * run geez
[04:54] <DamnSoGooD> god! what do you thing about dban? what is a monster bomb? gparted or dban?
[04:55] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: dban is a dod disk gparted will just reformat it
[04:55] <DamnSoGooD> do you know a SSD?
[04:56] <gogeta> DamnSoGooD: yep have a netbook with one they tend not to be as bad as hdd when it comes to being able to recover data
[04:56] <blade> damnsogood what size of flash drive (ssd) are you using
[04:56] <DamnSoGooD> its a 8g internal ata SSD
[04:56] <blade> gogeta what's that take of the netbook about 20 pounds lol
[04:57] <gogeta> blade: eepc 900a its a very light netbook
[04:57] <tomek_> who uses virtualBOX?
[04:57] <DamnSoGooD> join #vbox tomek
[04:57] <blade> it should not be slow then i ran ubuntu 9.10 from my 8gig flash drive for almost a year when it first came out
[04:58] <gogeta> blade: did say it was
[04:58] <gogeta> blade: didnt
[04:58] <blade> tomek i have used it
[04:59] <gogeta> blade: the drive itsself is slow but i use btrfs with the whoe fs compressed and its fast
[04:59] <blade> gogeta a SSD in a netbook would be much lighter than a HDD or would that not be true?
[04:59] <genewitch> my computer makes really weird noises when i run ubuntu; from inside the case. Like when i hover over an image on a website or open a program
[05:00] <gogeta> blade: very light abought as heavy as a internel wifi card heh not even a pound
[05:00] <gogeta> blade: i think the wole laptop is 2 pounds
[05:01] <blade> gogeta i have not used a laptop in about 6 years no so light then lol
[05:01] <nit-wit> genewitch, sounds possessed you got any holy water.;)
[05:01] <solomonic> hey i have a question..
[05:01] <gogeta> blade: and zlib compressed ubuntu install is like 1gb on a 4gb ssd thats very nice
[05:01] <solomonic> i'm trying to unlock my account
[05:01] <Phr3d13> genewitch, sounds like hard drive issues, back up your documents/data and get a new hard drive
[05:01] <solomonic> i accidently clicked the lock button on the bottom of the " my account "
[05:01] <genewitch> Phr3d13: no it's not the drive, i know what that sound is, it's not it.
[05:02] <solomonic> any suggestions? i've tried my pw i used to log into my computer, didn't work
[05:02] <genewitch> it sounds like the power conditioner circuit
[05:02] <nit-wit> solomonic, you don't know your password
[05:02] <genewitch> something in that area
[05:02] <anon84687676798> genewitch: the fan?
[05:02] <solomonic> i do, but i already had it so iw ouldn't have to use it to login
[05:02] <genewitch> anon84687676798: no, no fans, but it does sound close to something hitting a fan blade gently
[05:02] <solomonic> and I clicked the lock button on the bottom by accident.
[05:02] <gogeta> solomonic: you can boot into single user reovery mode and set a new pass
[05:02] <idlemind324> does anyone have any tips for installing 10.04 lts to a usb drive and booting from that usb drive?
[05:03] <genewitch> idlemind324: unetbootin... it even has the ability to give persistent storage
[05:03] <solomonic> lemme try gogeta
[05:03] <gogeta> idlemind324: as a install mediea or as a os
[05:03] <idlemind324> genewitch: does it work on ubuntu server
[05:04] <DBordello> If I wanted to install TO a usb drive just like it was a regular HD, can I put the installation media on USB drive A and then just launch the installation and select USB drive B as the target?
[05:04] <bluebird> idlemind324: i installed on a mobile hard driver.
[05:04] <idlemind324> gogeta: i want to use the usb drive (thumb drive) in place of a traditional hard disk
[05:04] <DBordello> idlemind324, that sounds familiar
[05:04] <genewitch> DBordello: er, unetbootin will allow you to save files and use the livecd environment permanently.
[05:04] <nit-wit> DBordello, yes just make sure grub is pointed at the usb you're installing to , that is in the custom setup
[05:04] <genewitch> DBordello: you don't want a regular system on a thumb drive
[05:04] <DamnSoGooD> sorry, but none here knows :D i've already asked the,
[05:04] <gogeta> idlemind324: just slect the usb drive as the install media then as well as tell it to put grub on the usb drive
[05:05] <blade> idlemind you can use unetbootin to do that i ran an os like that for over a year
[05:05] <Guest57503> hmm quick question
[05:05] <DBordello> genewitch, why not?
[05:05] <Guest57503> i cant watch any videos on my ubuntu
[05:05] <genewitch> DBordello: swap will kill the drive itself
[05:05] <genewitch> Guest57503: any videos or web videos
[05:05] <nit-wit> fud
[05:05] <gogeta> idlemind324: yea unetbootin can also setup a prestent install alot easer
[05:05] <Guest57503> like dvd video
[05:05] <idlemind324> thanks. i've seen lots of notes on running the desktop os as a live cd on your thumb drive but nothing i was able to find said i could install the server os to it
[05:05] <genewitch> Guest57503: you need ugly gstreamer, hold on
[05:05] <bluebird> Guest57503: u have to install media lib.
[05:05] <Phr3d13> !dvd
[05:05] <DBordello> What happens on a live system when it needs to swap?
[05:06] <Guest57503> ohhh okay
[05:06] <Guest57503> im new
[05:06] <Guest57503> to linux
[05:06] <idlemind324> so far i've ran through the install but when i install grub to my usb drive (/dev/sda for me) i don't get an error it just hangs after i select boot from usb
[05:06] <tofa> Nit-wit, Sorry about the delay the internet went down here. Where should I pastebin the textfile?
[05:06] <genewitch> Guest57503: in software center do gst-plugins-ugly
[05:06] <nit-wit> DBordello, that is not true anymore thumbs last longer
[05:06] <DBordello> genewitch, so you think going with a live system with persistent storage is better?
[05:06] <genewitch> DBordello: assuredly
[05:06] <gogeta> idlemind324: just slect prestent on the options hehe
[05:06] <nit-wit> tofa, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[05:06] <idlemind324> where do i  get that app gogeta?
[05:07] <ParkerR> Hey
[05:07] <gogeta> idlemind324: its for windows and linux
[05:07] <gogeta> idlemind324: in the repos for linux
[05:07] <Arcademan> Is there any other channel besides #ubuntu like #ubuntu-devel?
[05:07] <genewitch> idlemind324:
[05:07] <gogeta> idlemind324: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <Guest57503> no media lib came up..
[05:07] <genewitch> idlemind324: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[05:07] <genewitch> idlemind324: that one?
[05:08] <tofa> nit-wit, here's the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/649692/
[05:08] <nit-wit> thanks holdon tofa
[05:08] <genewitch> Guest57503: search for ugly it's called "GStreamer extra plugins"
[05:08] <Guest57503> oh i see it
[05:08] <bluebird> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:08] <gogeta> idlemind324: where it says space to reserve for multi reboots
[05:09] <Guest57503> thank you
[05:09] <gogeta> idlemind324: set that up and usb mobile distro
[05:09] <genewitch> rebooting to windows, talk to you folks tomorrow
[05:09] <DBordello> So I guess the decision is whether I want a regular installtion or "live" system on my USB key.  Pros/Cons?
[05:09] <genewitch> DBordello: the livecd is guaranteed to boot more than once
[05:10] <genewitch> DBordello: with no fuss and no grub config
[05:10] <gogeta> DBordello: grub tends to have a hart attack when you change pcs usb drive or not'
[05:10] <DBordello> gogeta, it will remain on the same machine.  Headless/diskless machine
[05:10] <gogeta> DBordello: then you can do nativ no issue
[05:10] <DBordello> genewitch, what does the live system do when it needs to swap out?
[05:10] <genewitch> DBordello: crash, but why would it need to swap
[05:11] <jen_> hello all
[05:11] <DBordello> genewitch, low on ram?
[05:11] <Guest97451> is there any RAM reader software for ubuntu?
[05:11] <genewitch> DBordello: you might be better off with a compact flash card, is this a laptop?
[05:11] <blade> lmao @ genwitch
[05:11] <DBordello> genewitch, no, desktop.
[05:11] <gogeta> genewitch: not true ubuntu has a toram option if you got enough ram
[05:11] <idlemind324> ok so i got that app installed
[05:11] <genewitch> DBordello: for under $5 you can get a kit to make CF into normal IDE
[05:11] <nit-wit> tofa, I think you may not be aware of the scroll feature in the grub menu, it shows in the bootscipt in the os-prober. Have you scrolled all the way to the bottom?
[05:11] <idlemind324> it's going through the paces atm
[05:11] <gogeta> genewitch: so you can load the entire os in ram
[05:11] <genewitch> gogeta: right but that's not swap
[05:12] <DBordello> i am a little worried about the amount of ram as well
[05:12] <idlemind324> we shall see if it works. i'm interested in doing this to some kind of compact flash if possible down the line. i kind of like how you can buy a dell server with a cf chip them and load the cf up with esxi
[05:12] <genewitch> DBordello: use additional thumb drives as swap
[05:12] <tofa> Yes, I think I have. All the partitions have been accessible before....
[05:12] <genewitch> DBordello: mkswap /dev/sd<thumbdriveletter
[05:12] <DBordello> genewitch, why would a CF be better?  Besides being able to be IDE
[05:12] <gogeta> DBordello: well if you go nativ you need to install on that system or grub will choke and die
[05:12] <DBordello> genewitch, okay.  Any reason I can't have that all on the same device?
[05:13] <genewitch> DBordello: faster, for a start. and it is an IDE drive, so linux loves it more than a USB drive.
[05:13] <tofa> Nit-wit, I can try booting into windows again and see if works.
[05:13] <DBordello> gogeta, that is what I was planning
[05:13] <gogeta> DBordello: using a usb drive is fine eyther way just slect it
[05:13] <DBordello> Do the live systems with persistent storage allow package installation, configurations, etc.
[05:13] <genewitch> DBordello: you can have it all on the same device but thumb drives aren't that fast to begin with. i dunno, give it a shot, but DD your device from another machine when you're done setting it up
[05:13] <gogeta> DBordello: i recomond btrfs with the ssd option on
[05:13] <nit-wit> tofa, you have 7 kernel sets, it should be there. You have run the update-grub XP would not be there if it was not in the grub menu
[05:14] <genewitch> DBordello: yes they allow apt-get (i run backtrack on persistent usb)
[05:14] <tofa> Nit-wit,  Yes, I think I have. All the partitions have been accessible before....
[05:14] <DBordello> gogeta, didn't even think about that.  Any reason why?
[05:14] <gogeta> DBordello: sd drives tend to need the same ruleset less writing to the drive longer life span
[05:14] <tofa> Nit-wit, I'll give it a go then. Thanks for your help.
[05:14] <genewitch> gogeta: and swap is lots of writing
[05:14] <DBordello> genewitch.  How does that work?  / isn't saved on reboot, right?
[05:14] <genewitch> gogeta: whcih is why i recommend another thumb drive :-)
[05:14] <gogeta> DBordello: no swap
[05:14] <genewitch> DBordello: yeah, it's persistent
[05:15] <nit-wit> tofa, to be honest the "I think I have is not enough for me" run the update-grub command and look closely XP will be there I suspect, scroll to the bottom of the terminal
[05:15] <gogeta> DBordello: i genrelly dont have any issue running ubuntu without swap on a 4gb ssd
[05:15] <genewitch> gogeta: 4gb?
[05:15] <genewitch> gogeta: server?
[05:15] <gogeta> genewitch: netbook with btrfs ssd and compressed
[05:15] <genewitch> i have half a mind to drop ubuntu on an older laptop on a 4gb CF (i have xp on it right now)
[05:15] <DBordello> no swap sounds dangerous to me
[05:15] <genewitch> btrfs?
[05:15] <gogeta> genewitch: whole os installed size 700mb hehe
[05:15] <genewitch> DBordello: the machine i am talking to you fromhas no swap
[05:16] <genewitch> DBordello: and 640mb of ram
[05:16] <DBordello> hmmm
[05:16] <DBordello> i can beat that
[05:16] <DBordello> barely
[05:16] <gogeta> genewitch: you have to trick the installer but it works
[05:16] <genewitch> DBordello: it means i have to restart a service every day, but other than that, it's cheap.
[05:16] <tofa> Nitwit, Yes it is there.
[05:16] <DBordello> hmmm
[05:17] <gogeta> DBordello: well 640mb on a server shouldent be a issue relly
[05:17] <nit-wit> tofa, so your set, you might clean out some of those kernels
[05:17] <genewitch> DBordello: wait, the irsii box is gentoo, no swap. it never crashes anything. the ubuntu box i am ssh'd into is the one that has a service silently die every day
[05:17] <DBordello> So, if the usb key remains with the same PC, I am hearing that there is no reason not to do a full install, and give er a little swap
[05:17] <blade> dbordello just pick up a small flash drive for swap
[05:17] <DBordello> I have a 8gb USB 3.0 drive that I am going to be using. I feel like that should be sufficient
[05:17] <genewitch> DBordello: if you do a single thumb drive, make sure you have a straight dd backup
[05:17] <genewitch> DBordello: just to save the trouble
[05:17] <DBordello> genewitch, good call
[05:18] <gogeta> DBordello: swaping on a sd drive just make it noit last as long
[05:18] <blade> dbordello it should be fine that is what i ran 9 10 for almost a year on was a 8 gig flash
[05:18] <genewitch> DBordello: and good luck. if it works for you i might try and make a server image that way
[05:18] <tofa> Nit-wit, I've always been slightly annoyed by the number of options grub gives me to boot into when I start up. How do I clean them out?
[05:18] <genewitch> blade: keen
[05:18] <rkj90266> can anyone tell me where to find a good linux program that will aggregate podcasts and sync them with a 5th gen ipod? Rhythmbox aggregates but can't sync, gtkpod is not being maintained, banshee crashes my ipod
[05:18] <Ali2000> hello all. I have 7300 gs nvidia graphic card ,, i have problem with it. the system do not recognize it , ii have test it on ubuntu 10.04 10.10 and natty , if i change to nvidia 8400 it will be solved?
[05:18] <gogeta> DBordello: as  long as you dont mind replacing the drive every few months have at it
[05:19] <Guest97451> is there any RAM reader software for ubuntu?
[05:19] <nit-wit> tofa, I use the easy method there is a app called ubuntu tweak that will do it easily. its not in the repos do you want a link
[05:19] <DBordello> gogeta, i see.  I'll give it a shot without swap
[05:19] <tofa> Nit-wit, That would be brilliant.
[05:19] <DBordello> and see how it feels
[05:19] <genewitch> rkj90266: i'm seeing stuff like "install itunes under wine"
[05:19] <genewitch> rkj90266: and a few ryhtmbox fixes
[05:19] <genewitch> rkj90266: did you get a ryhtmbox database error of any sort?
[05:20] <gogeta> DBordello: or get a relly cheap 1gb drive what are they these days 5$ and use it for swap
[05:20] <blade> nit-wit i have seen that but have never used it. do you like the results
[05:20] <genewitch> gogeta: aka readyboost
[05:20] <genewitch> DBordello: 4GB $8 :-D
[05:20] <DBordello> genewitch, true.
[05:20] <nit-wit> blade, yeah it is the easy gui way, I'm lazy
[05:20] <genewitch> i used a $5 thumb drive as swap when i was parsing wikipedia xmls
[05:21] <DBordello> I guess with a live system, it is setup to not be thrashing on the drive.  Would the "liveness" of it start to annoy me if I am installing stuff, etc?
[05:21] <blade> nit-wit sounds like what i need then cuz so am i lol
[05:21] <HackNewton> hay friends
[05:21] <gogeta> DBordello: couse even if you blow up swap the os will keep running and toss a new one in
[05:21] <rkj90266> genewitch yes, i get a whole series of "error: resource not found" messages when I try to sync
[05:21] <HackNewton> well i am big trouble here
[05:21] <HackNewton> i changed my CompizConfig settings and i lost my complete unity desktop
[05:22] <HackNewton> i cannot access anything at all
[05:22] <rkj90266> genewitch i would prefer to have a native linux program instead of itunes, and from what i have read it sounds like itunes is buggy
[05:22] <blade> hacknewton what is wrong with loosing unity lol
[05:22] <HackNewton> does anyone know how to undo those effects ?
[05:22] <genewitch> rkj90266: i am looking sir
[05:22] <HackNewton> blade, i cant access anything
[05:23] <gogeta> DBordello: but you said a server so your probly  not going to even need swap being your probly not going to be using tons of memery
[05:23] <genewitch> rkj90266: it seems like you're having an odd issue, perhaps submit a bug to rhythmbox maintainers?
[05:23] <blade> hacknewton log out and log back in before you put your password in at the lower rightish of the screen you can log in with different options
[05:23] <DBordello> gogeta, correct
[05:23] <genewitch> rkj90266: i'm getting 6 results on google for your exact issue
[05:23] <genewitch> and none have a solution
[05:23] <nit-wit> tofa, here is a web link just run the three commands it will pput it in your update sources list. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tweak-0-5-8-released-with-ubuntu-11-04-support.html
[05:23] <tofa> Nit-wit, Thanks for your help.
[05:24] <nit-wit> tofa, no problem.;)
[05:24] <ObrienDave> Ali2000: I would try a smaller number first.
[05:24] <HackNewton> blade, dude i am using desktop without effect option and i want my old normal desktop back
[05:24] <jay__> videoos still arnt playing..
[05:24] <jay__> videos*
[05:24] <gogeta> jay__: cough vlc
[05:24] <jay__> >.<
[05:24] <blade> hacknewton have you tried to log into your ubuntu unity desktop
[05:25] <Logan_> gogeta: feel better
[05:25] <HackNewton> blade, yes
[05:25] <gogeta> Logan_: yes i always love my video whont play question
[05:25] <blade> hacknewton you could also open your package manager and purge compiz
[05:25] <HackNewton> blade, it only shows my DVD drive icon its all
[05:25] <rkj90266> genewitch that's discouraging, surprising really that this is as hard as it is
[05:25] <Ali2000> any one here know how to run vlc as root ?
[05:25] <genewitch> PS i think it should be more apparent that you need to run an apt-get dist-upgrade if it says "packages held back"
[05:26] <gogeta> Ali2000: madness
[05:26] <Logan_> sudo vlc
[05:26] <Logan_> or gksudo vlc, I suppose
[05:26] <genewitch> rkj90266: i know your feelings, trust me. But the only way to fix it sometimes is to submit a bug to the maintainers so they can get it patched.
[05:26] <Ali2000> it show this : VLC is not supposed to be run as root. Sorry.
[05:26] <Ali2000> If you need to use real-time priorities and/or privileged TCP ports
[05:26] <Ali2000> you can use vlc-wrapper (make sure it is Set-UID root and
[05:26] <Ali2000> cannot be run by non-trusted users first).
[05:26] <FloodBot1> Ali2000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <genewitch> gogeta: maybe he wants to vlc /dev/sda1
[05:27] <gogeta> genewitch: he should be able to acess read only even on that
[05:27] <genewitch> Ali2000: you trying to run it as a server?
[05:27] <gogeta> genewitch: enough for vlc to work
[05:27] <rkj90266> genewitch maybe i will try itunes and wine then
[05:27] <Ali2000> no
[05:27] <genewitch> Ali2000: then you don't need root
[05:27] <blade> nit-wit in 11 4 compiz and unity are not good friends is that right?
[05:27] <genewitch> rkj90266: good luck, sorry i couldn't help more. check back during united states daytime when someone who has one can help :-)
[05:28] <maalac> blade: yes ..it has lot of problem based on my experience
[05:28] <Ali2000> I am using root account in my ubuntu desktop
[05:28] <nit-wit> blade, it's a bit contankerous, but I use it.
[05:28] <gogeta> Ali2000: there is no root in ubuntu
[05:28] <gogeta> Ali2000: sudo only
[05:28] <HackNewton> blade, anyway you know how to access compize manager trough terminal
[05:28] <genewitch> Ali2000: ohhhhh.... useradd notroot & passwd notroot & su notroot
[05:28] <Ali2000> ok thanks :x
[05:28] <nit-wit> blade, I have the fusion icon in docky to fix it generally.
[05:29] <genewitch> gogeta: lies! i am logged in as root!
[05:29] <gogeta> genewitch: lol
[05:29] <blade> maalac nit-wit i am not running 11 4 and do not know much about terminal commands hacknewton has some problems
[05:29] <genewitch> ok i have to relog. bye.
[05:29] <gogeta> genewitch: you added it didnt you
[05:29] <genewitch> sudo shutdown -r now
[05:29] <nit-wit> HackNewton, ccsm
[05:29] <gogeta> genewitch: i just use halt
[05:29] <HackNewton> nit-wit, thanks
[05:30] <nit-wit> HackNewton, thats what we are here for no problem.;)
[05:30] <blade> i can see my first trip here will not be my last
[05:31] <Azerbaijao> what utility I can be use to intercept system calls called ​​by a process ?
[05:31] <gogeta> blade: is that a thret
[05:31] <blade> gogeta lol it may be
[05:31] <maalac> nit-wit: try this one fusion-icon --no-start
[05:31] <blade> gogeta my first time ever in IRC
[05:32] <gogeta> blade: lol if you run linux you spend alot of time on it
[05:32] <maalac> gogeta: yes, i agree. it's like when you start a game and you won't stop until you get to the next mission
[05:33] <carlly> hey
[05:33] <nit-wit> maalac, I set up a launcher in home then dragged it to docky, I forget otherwise how I set it up. If Unity had a legit panel it would be there with options
[05:33] <blade> i used linux back in 9 10 now i'm getting back into it
[05:33] <gogeta> maalac: more like a mmo where it end even if you got all the endgame loot your helping the noobs
[05:33] <gogeta> doesent
[05:33] <blade> gogeta cant stand M$ crashing all the time
[05:34] <bazhang> !ot
[05:34] <gogeta> blade: i cant diss 7 igts rock solid on my 1 machine that runs it my gameing rig
[05:34] <gogeta> blade: the other 3 pcs are all linux
[05:35] <blade> gogeta that is what i built this computer for is 7 lol it seams a bit over powered for Ubuntu but  ..... lol
[05:35] <carlly> is anyone still on here
[05:35] <bazhang> carlly, yes
[05:35] <carlly> hey
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> carlly: many
[05:35] <Lasers> blade: Overpowered -- How?
[05:35] <bazhang> blade gogeta chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[05:35] <carlly> yep
[05:36] <blade> lasers because i can not get both of my ati cards to work
[05:36] <maalac> blade gogeta: let's go to that room #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <blade> maalc how?
[05:36] <Lasers> blade: Type --> /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:36] <bazhang>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic blade
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Blade: type:      /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:37] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: you live heh
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Gogeta: i live.....again     :-)
[05:38] <maalac> ActionParsnip: how do you do that in pidgin
[05:38] <gogeta> maalac: pidgin takes standerd irc commands
[05:38] <carlly> tonghuix,hi
[05:39] <carlly> hello
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> maalac: same as in any client. Type: /me <first person action>
[05:39] <bazhang> carlly, ubuntu support question?
[05:39]  * YankDownUnder drinks beer
[05:39] <maalac> ActionParsnip: i didn't know that. thanks
[05:39] <YankDownUnder> WOW! It works? (sniggers)
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> maalac: e.g.   /me is on the bus to work
[05:40] <carlly> bazhang,what?
[05:40] <bazhang> carlly, this is ubuntu support. did you have a support question
[05:40] <YankDownUnder> Well, that answered that question.
[05:41] <mrk1> i was playing with samba and accidentally deleted some files and now i have lost the option to share files when i right click
[05:41] <napster> Is there any way to send a row request to a webserver without using a browser at all?
[05:41] <mrk1> can anyone please help
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> mrk1: reinstall the samba package. May help.
[05:42] <TheCyph3r> sudo apt-get remove samba
[05:42] <TheCyph3r> sudo apt-get install samba
[05:42] <bluebird> some one can recommand some funny games in linux?
[05:42] <TheCyph3r> is that right?
[05:42] <bazhang> !games > bluebird
[05:42] <YankDownUnder> TheCyph3r, Um...that's a bit drastic...
[05:42] <mrk1> the cyph3r i did that to no avail
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> TheCyph3r: easier is: sudo apt-get --reinstall install samba       both ways work
[05:43] <YankDownUnder> mrk1, You can install a Samba configuration too through the Package Manager and that will help you get yourself back on track without deleting/removing Samba.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Mrk1: do you have the same release on another system?
[05:44] <mrk1> actionparsnip no i dont
[05:44] <HackNewton> hi
[05:44] <HackNewton> i got restored it :)
[05:44] <HackNewton> thanks
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Mrk1: do you know which file(s) you removed?
[05:45] <tomek_> Anyobody uses Gambas?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Mrk1: i don't use nautilus to share personnally. I've always used smb.conf
[05:46] <mrk1> actionparsnip it was in the var folder i was trying to follow some advice from online
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> mrk1: if you post the link it may help
[05:47] <tomek_> what is good tool for samba configuring ?
[05:48] <mrk1> actionparsnip i rebooted my computer and cant find it anymore. im sorry i know i am sounding like an idiot
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> tomek_: nano is what i use. Eswat and nautilus are ones I can think of quickly
[05:48] <Asterisk_> is there an equivalent to the irc ghost command, but for ssh?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> mrk1: you aren't, you're just learning :-)
[05:49] <obeyance> Can someone refer me to a windows support room?
[05:49] <zykotick9> If anyone happens to still be around from me asking hours ago, the default timeout for the sudo command is 15 minutes (you can confirm with "man sudoers" and search for timestamp_timeout).  The timer does however reset any time sudo is used so attempting to "test" can be difficult, even the following courtesy #bash failed //  watch -tn1 'echo $(sudo date +"%H:%M:%S")' // however "sudo ls && sleep 16m && sudo ls" reasks for the sudo password.
[05:49] <Sia> How can I see a list of APs?
[05:49] <mrk1> actionparsnip
[05:49] <obeyance> Ive been working on getting my lan drivers installed and no mater what i do it wont work.
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> obeyance: ##windows
[05:49] <mrk1> just found the link
[05:49] <obeyance> This is in windows*
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Sia: sudo iwlist scan
[05:50] <mrk1> actionparsnip /var/lib/dpkg/info
[05:50] <Juozas> obeyance, ##windows probably
[05:50] <Sia> tnx
[05:52] <josephpagoda> hello everyone!  Does anyone know how I can make an ext4 mount point always have a specific uid?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> mrk1: yikes. There is a fix but my browser sucks off of wifi. Marco Braida posts fixes for the packages. Its a list of about 9 commands
[05:53] <mrk1> actionparsnip alright thanks a lot! ill try to fix it
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Mrk1: search for: marco braida mv cp status apt-get clean old       usually makes it appear. Its in a launchpad question, scroll down a few, you'll see it
[05:55] <lolto> anyone try to use dwm and have it not respond to cmds
[05:56] <YankDownUnder> dwn?
[05:57] <mrk1> hello everyone, my /etc/samba folder got deleted accidentally.. any fixes?
[05:57] <lolto> sorry, dwm
[05:57] <lolto> then window manager?
[05:57] <uw_> hi there!  question about netbootin
[05:57] <uw_> if anybody has experince in that?
[05:58] <aum> how to install openoffice.org in ubuntu 11.04, i have install the deb files but its giving dpkg error
[05:58] <YankDownUnder> mrk1, Well, as ActionParsnip had said, you can just do a re-installation of Samba and that should be that...except for the fact that you'll have to re-configure your shares mate...
[05:58] <uw_> whats the error aum
[05:58] <bazhang> uw_, please ask
[05:58] <Sia> ok, now how can I connect to one of APs found by iwlist?
[05:58] <YankDownUnder> lolto, There was a "dwm" way back when - was kinda like "Presentation Manager" for X - like OS/2 - is that what you mean?
[05:58] <Lasers> aum: LibreOffice. Is same.
[05:58] <aum> ration$ sudo dpkg -i openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb
[05:58] <aum> (Reading database ... 163112 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:59] <aum> Unpacking openoffice.org-debian-menus (from openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb) ...
[05:59] <aum> dpkg: error processing openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb (--install):
[05:59] <aum>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/mime/packages/openoffice.org.xml', which is also in package libreoffice-common 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu4
[05:59] <wols> Lasers: it's not the same
[05:59] <FloodBot1> aum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <aum> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:59] <aum> /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache
[05:59] <YankDownUnder> Nice flood.... (gads)
[05:59] <mrk1> yankdownunder that is the problem i did reinstall but it is not helping because the shares are disabled for some reason
[05:59] <Lasers> wols: Okay. You caught me. It's not same. :(
[05:59] <lolto> YankDownUnder:  i mean the tiling window manager, it shows up as a session option, but all commands to it seem to fasil
[05:59] <bazhang> uw_, you mean unetbootin presumably
[05:59] <lolto> **fai
[05:59] <YankDownUnder> mrk1, Um...if the shares are disabled, did you not re-create them?
[05:59] <josephpagoda> anyone have any ideas on how i could mount my ext4 drive to always make files be 766?
[05:59] <uw_> bazhang, i can get the kernel/ramdisk to load on a machine, but when running the install i do not have internet access
[05:59] <josephpagoda> instead of 755?
[06:00] <pratz> hey guys my friend has windows machine and he wants to connect to my ubuntu box with vnc , but he is unable to connect , (we are on the same network)
[06:00] <Sia> I am confuzed in terms SSID, BSSID and ESSID
[06:00] <mrk1> yankdownunder that is the problem i am having, i am trying to but the option to do so is gone when i right click on the file
[06:00] <uw_> bazhang, i dont really want to set up a mirror.  it seems silly that i should have to because a fully installable system is available via cdrom
[06:00] <bazhang> !wifi > Sia please have a read
[06:01] <aum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/649711/
[06:01] <YankDownUnder>   mrk1 Um...now ya lost me..."Right click the file" -> I don't get it...???
[06:02] <mrk1> yankdownunder i used to be able to share my files/folders by right clicking and saying share folder, that option is gone entirely
[06:02] <bazhang> uw_, I may have misunderstood, sorry, did you mean 'netboot' as opposed to using unetbootin to install iso to usb stick?
[06:02] <DBordello> I am impressed with the usb LIVE installation.  It appears to be a real install :)  I installed a package, messed with /etc, and rebooted.  It all stayed.
[06:02] <YankDownUnder> mrk1, Right - so you've done a re-install of Samba - have you, perchance, rebooted?
[06:02] <uw_> bazhang, i have the whole cd on the netboot server...how can i get it too look at that (preferably via NFS not HTTP or FTP)
[06:03] <mrk1> yankdownunder yes i have and still nothing..im stumped
[06:03] <uw_> bazhang, i mean over the network, i dont have a usb key
[06:03] <mrk1> yankdownunder i also have killalled nautilys
[06:04] <YankDownUnder> mrk1, Look, in your Package Manager, there is an admin utiliity for Samba - ya might want to install it, and try this all over again...the other option is to completely remove samba from this machine, reboot, re-install samba, then try again...
[06:04] <bazhang> uw_, okay you said 'netbootin' I presumed wrongly you referred to 'unetbootin'
[06:05] <uw_> bazhang, it is requsting a mirror (something like us.archive.ubuntu.com)  i would like it too look locally, via the same NFS share that it used to grab other files from.
[06:05] <mrk1> yankdownunder alright, ill try that, thanks
[06:05] <uw_> bazhang, yes sorry about that.  i met "netbootin'" as a slang for "netbooting", the verb for using netboot
[06:07] <uw_> bazhang, i could set up a http or ftp server on this...but its kinda unessary just so the client can pull in files.  the NFS is set up and working properlly, why cant it just keep using that for everything on the CD as normal?
[06:07] <bazhang> uw_, I dont know much about the pxe netboot issue, sorry for the misunderstanding on my part
[06:08] <uw_> bazhang, ok understood.  thank you for your offering of help though
[06:09] <DBordello> anyway to make the live installation less "live".  Ie, automatically loginging in the consoles.
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: you can use remastersys to change the image as you desire
[06:11] <rabbit1> how to migrate from ubuntu to windows ?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Rabbit: migrate what?
[06:12] <rabbit1> ActionParsnip: need to install windows, my system is on ubuntu... how to format and install windows ?
[06:12] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, i don't need to create a new iso.  Once it is isntall on a usb drive i want it to act a little less "live"
[06:12] <DBordello> it works great with persistent partitions
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Rabbit: the windows install cd can delete the ubuntu partitions and install itself as you desire
[06:13] <IdleOne> rabbit1: help with installing Windows in ##windows
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: can you define "less live" please
[06:14] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, sure.  Doesn't automatically login all of the consoles.  Remove the default ubuntu user.
[06:15] <Kartagis> I can't bring ubuntu back from sleep, where can I turn that off? power options?
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: if you use unetbootin the you are simply transferring the live cd to usb. Updates wi not stick. If you create a persistent install you can add all manner of changes and startup scripts and after a reboot they will not be lost
[06:18] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, I used unetbootin with a persistent storage.  It is actually reall impressive.  It behaves like a full install
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: if you run system updates then reboot you will have to older versions of the apps
[06:20] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, oh reall :/  I did notice if i installed a package using apt-get, it showed up upon reboot.
[06:20] <DBordello> which I thought was nice
[06:20] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, i am attempting to run a system from USB.  I am trying to decide if it is best to run it as a live environment, or install to the usb key
[06:20] <KM0201> i'm not sure most USB's would have room for a bunch of updates toa persistent install
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: the squashfs file doesn't get updated :-(
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> !persistent
[06:21] <bazhang> !usb
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> !persistant
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> Ayyyy
[06:22] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, its !usb
[06:22] <DBordello> Hmmm
[06:22] <DBordello> interesting
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: i see. The second link looks good to me
[06:23] <DBordello> Hmmm, live/full. I woulnd't mind a full fledged installation.
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: thanks for the tip :)
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: you can. Ubuntu and windows7 can resize ntfs to make free space to put ubuntu in
[06:25] <beachbuddah> hey folks, just installed 11.04 on an asus 900eeepc and would like to pin the system monitor to the tray - any ideas how?
[06:25] <IdleOne> !persistant > ActionParsnip
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: i can't spell, not this early anyway haha
[06:26] <bazhang> beachbuddah, right click keep on tray?
[06:27] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: it has the correct spelling also
[06:27] <beachbuddah> bazhang, I've only discovered one way to see the various installed apps - when I look at it that way the right click is disabled
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: dead handy
[06:27] <DBordello> ActionParsnip, that isn't the issue.  This is for a headless/diskless machine
[06:28] <skrmm> Hello. I have simple bash script which just records audio from mic in and sends it via ftp - in loop, audio files are 2 Mb each. So, I need to run this script after booting. Any ideas?
[06:29] <DBordello> I think I will install from USB A to USB B.  Any suggestions to reduced thrashing to the drive?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> DBordello: ahh i see. Then persistant USB is great. A class 6 SD card will help improve speed
[06:31] <corestorm> g hey
[06:31] <corestorm> How do i clear my DNS cache ?
[06:32] <corestorm> Does anyone know how to clear DNS cache ?
[06:33] <skrmm> sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart I guess
[06:33] <glebihan> skrmm, does that script have to run in the background or does just have to be run once on boot ?
[06:33] <corestorm> not working
[06:34] <skrmm> glebihan, background, I'm building something like IP dictaphone
[06:34] <skrmm> corestorm, try sudo aptitude install nscd first
[06:34] <corestorm> I've done this already
[06:34] <corestorm> it's not clearing my DNS cache.
[06:35] <glebihan> skrmm, in that case you would have to use an upstart job
[06:35] <corestorm> Does anyone know what i need to do here ?
[06:36] <skrmm> corestorm, service networking restart?
[06:36] <glebihan> skrmm, here is an example of a simple upstart job I made : http://paste.ubuntu.com/649733/
[06:36] <corestorm> Mabie there's a cache on my router ?
[06:36] <skrmm> glebihan, Oh, ok, I guess I should rtfm about upstart, thanks
[06:36] <corestorm> Or some shit
[06:36] <glebihan> skrmm, also have a look to other jobs in /etc/init
[06:38] <skrmm> corestorm, maybe there is, who knows. If so - just reboot the router
[06:38] <corestorm> Alright
[06:40] <faLUCE>  hi. Is there an editor which allows to insert words only if the follow a user-defined grammar?
[06:46] <skrmm> faLUCE, I'm not sure, but seems gedit has feature like that
[06:47] <StepNjump> is there a way to use wpa2 encryption in iwconfig?
[06:49] <bsmith093> im so tired of monkeying around with the power management settings. can someone send me a screenshot, or the proper settings, to make a laptop on ac power, onle black and lock the screen after 10 minutes but never do anything else?
[06:49] <bsmith093> including hibernate
[06:49] <faLUCE> skrmm: I can't find it
[06:50] <StepNjump> ok found it. sorry
[06:52] <skrmm> faLUCE, I'm unable to check exact solution at the moment, I'm using ubuntu server. But - I remember I had to activate some plugin in preferences and then define short words to expand
[06:53] <Guest85791> hello everyone
[06:54] <faLUCE> skrmm: so, you already tried that?
[06:55] <skrmm> faLUCE, Yes, but few months ago. Do you want something like text expander on Mac? http://www.smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/
[06:56] <Tesseract> afternoon all
[06:56] <josephpagoda> hi Tesseract
[06:57] <skrmm> glebihan, what does that -p key mean? PID?
[06:58] <Tesseract> Got a bit of a problem. just got a new fritzbox in and ubuntu can connect to it but wont connect to the internet
[06:59] <Lasers> faLUCE: Autohotkey?
[07:00] <Tesseract> Any ideas?
[07:01] <Lasers> faLUCE: autokey -- Try that.
[07:03] <phper_> Hello. What is the name and path of the image file portable ubuntu uses?
[07:05] <bullgard4> phper_: What do you mean by "portable ubuntu"?
[07:08] <merseyless> Anyone here had any experience with wifi not wanting to work?
[07:08] <phper_> it's portable
[07:09] <phper_> you can carry it around in a usb, it runs as a windows application
[07:09] <merseyless> he means this: http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows
[07:10] <Lasers> !usb | phper_
[07:11] <merseyless> not quite lasers, it's a ubuntu virtual machine in windows that works in-line with normal windows
[07:11] <Lasers> merseyless: I see it. New thing. :)
[07:12] <Punna> is there any way to start a console application with a proxy internet connection?
[07:12] <n00bRX> Hey Fellas .. I have a total ass dumb question
[07:12] <Punna> like, the connection the console app uses will be going through that proxy (specifically, SOCK5)
[07:12] <Lasers> !ask | n00bRX
[07:12] <n00bRX> ok, thank you. I won't ask to ask again
[07:12] <n00bRX> somehow I "moved" the active window I was in to the top left of the screen and locked it in place
[07:13] <n00bRX> it sucks because I can't read the screen properly, and I can't seem to get it to "appear normal"  meaning that I don't have control of moving it around
[07:13] <n00bRX> So what exactly did I do?
[07:13] <n00bRX> Thanks ubottu & lasers
[07:13] <csdwifi> n00bRX, you might have switched workspaces
[07:13] <n00bRX> No, I didn't switch workplaces.
[07:14] <n00bRX> as in holding shift, alt, ctrl and then an arrow key
[07:14] <esr_> \server irc.irc-hispano
[07:14] <Lasers> n00bRX: Hold ALT and try drag the window?
[07:14] <n00bRX> I clicked on something with my mouse, and it's like the border around that active window disappeared and locked it to the uppert left side of my active workspace
[07:14] <n00bRX> ok one second lasers
[07:15] <Lasers> Border disappear? You don't have metacity or compiz running
[07:15] <n00bRX>  I do believe I have compiz running
[07:15] <n00bRX> should I go back into the compfix settings and make sure my borders are turned on.
[07:16] <Lasers> n00bRX: Err. Sure. If you were tweaking with compiz settings when that happen, that information might be useful.
[07:16] <n00bRX> for instance lasers, this active xchat IRC isn't giving me the usual min, max and close in the upper left
[07:17] <n00bRX> I actually wasn't tweaking compfiz
[07:17] <n00bRX> I mean I have in the past, but at this point and juncture I wasn't not in compfiz.
[07:17] <Lasers> n00bRX: Try enabling metacity/compiz the way you usually.
[07:17] <n00bRX> For instance, firefox gives me the option to minimize, maximize and then the "x" to close out.
[07:17] <Lasers> n00bRX: Open a terminal -- "metacity --replace &&" ?
[07:18] <Lasers> "metacity --replace &"
[07:18] <n00bRX> Lasers, it worked perfectly.
[07:19] <n00bRX> I have my "borders" back .. so what did I do exactly?
[07:19] <n00bRX> Or where in the help file can you point me so I can go read and learn
[07:19] <Lasers> n00bRX: Great. Now you should run that from "ALT+F2" -- So you don't have to close/cancel the terminal.
[07:19] <Lasers> n00bRX: I don't know. Something occured.
[07:19] <Lasers> occurred.
[07:19] <Lasers> !metacity | n00bRX
[07:20] <IdleOne> you stopped compiz and restarted metacity
[07:20] <IdleOne> basically telling metacity to redraw all your GUI stuff
[07:20] <Lasers> n00bRX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[07:20] <IdleOne> simplified Idle explanation
[07:22] <n00bRX> Thanks idleone .. my computer locked up. I had to log out
[07:22] <n00bRX> Much obliged. I will start reading on that.  Thanks again also Laser
[07:23] <trenth> Hey
[07:23] <n00bRX> What's up trenth?
[07:24] <trenth> I'm having trouble with my WNA3100 USB WIFI card
[07:24] <trenth> In "Windows Wireless Drivers" I click "Configure network"
[07:24] <trenth> It tells me, no network tool found
[07:25] <lartza> Forgot to remove my LVM and now server install is hard... what was the command to wipe a drive?
[07:25] <lartza> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=10 ?
[07:28] <n00bRX> Awesome .. I had to go in there and change some settings on basic windows management.  Fuck I am retared sometimes ..
[07:29] <n00bRX> I am so happy .. I am totally going to do some fappin!
[07:29] <bazhang> n00bRX, no cursing here
[07:29] <n00bRX> oh sorry man!
[07:29] <bazhang> !guidelines > n00bRX
[07:30] <trenth> Alright, n00bRX do you think you can help me?
[07:31] <bazhang> trenth, whats the chipset, lsusb if usb, lspci if pci -----> to paste.ubuntu.com please
[07:31] <beachbuddah> hey room - just tried to upgrade to natty and I got an error stating I couldn't - I may have unauthorized packages - does that mean that my firefox  has to be downgraded. etc?
[07:31] <trenth> It's a 9020
[07:31] <trenth> 0846:9020
[07:31] <bazhang> trenth, atheros?
[07:31] <trenth> Doesn't say antyhing but this
[07:31] <trenth> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc
[07:32] <bazhang> trenth, and a search of those codes reveals what?
[07:32] <Veqq_van_Weg> I have a problem where my keyboard stops working randomly. Sometimes it'll start working again after 5-10 mins... I can still right and left click and everything, but if I try to open a program or menu... nothing happens. I'm using 10.04 also
[07:32] <trenth> It reveals, the ndiswrapper page
[07:32] <trenth> I did what it said on the page, iwconfig & ifconfig do not show my adapter though
[07:32] <trenth> ndiswrapper -l shows my driver, and shows the device as detected
[07:33] <trenth> The GUI of ndiswrapper on the otherhand, when I click Configure Network tells me no network found?
[07:33] <trenth> "could not find a network configuration tooL"
[07:34] <envygeeks> I was wondering if any of you knew when the next point release for 10.04 is due out this year?
[07:34] <popey> soon
[07:34] <Lasers> (but not guaranteed)
[07:35] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=5f18183c1ec9b931ebd30a4d22549b04&t=1549190&page=3 trenth
[07:35] <popey> envygeeks: week of July 21st
[07:35] <popey> envygeeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[07:35] <envygeeks> You know if they cherry picked out the wifi updates to enable new drivers for sta2800?
[07:35] <k10> W: GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA NO_PUBKEY 64481591B98321F9
[07:36] <k10> what to do?
[07:36] <envygeeks> specifically: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=b3ba44c6d1633692b45910ee77064e635e2c3143
[07:36] <popey> envygeeks: you can download the iso now to test it and find out?
[07:36] <cruskai239> ma shitz be borked yo!!!
[07:36] <bazhang> k10, for debian?
[07:36] <bazhang> cruskai239, wrong channel
[07:36] <k10> yeah
[07:36] <bazhang> k10, #debian
[07:36] <popey> in fact it _is_ out https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-July/000150.html
[07:36] <cruskai239> lol im just kidding
[07:36] <bazhang> cruskai239, no cursing here, ubuntu support only
[07:36] <envygeeks> popey: impossible right now :P, I'm working on a thin client for the next 2 weeks becuase I'm on the road so I would have to have a CD sent to me >.<
[07:37] <k10> i used apt-get update
[07:37] <k10> and this error
[07:37] <k10> :(
[07:37] <bazhang> k10, its debian, its not supported here
[07:37] <k10> k byeee
[07:37] <cruskai239> really we doing this? i happened to have helped with one of the language packs
[07:37] <bazhang> cruskai239, doing what
[07:37] <cruskai239> translations and basic coding
[07:38] <bazhang> cruskai239, whats your support issue
[07:38] <cruskai239> kubuntu 11.04 32 bit works great except for one slight issue. thing doesnt hibernate
[07:39] <bazhang> cruskai239, whats swap and how much ram
[07:39] <cruskai239> 4 gb of ram
[07:39] <trenth> bazhang, it tells me my version of ndiswrapper is 1.55 not 1.56
[07:39] <trenth> ?
[07:39] <lartza> How big does /boot get in ubuntu?
[07:39] <lartza> server
[07:40] <lartza> since it varies what distro
[07:40] <lartza> *distro's recommend, I have 32M on gentoo but 100 on Arch
[07:40] <popey> lartza: depends how many kernels you have kicking around
[07:40] <popey> lartza: mine is about 74MB at the moment
[07:40] <cruskai239> no partitioning. the os takes the whole drive
[07:40] <popey> lartza: with about 8-10 kernels
[07:40] <bazhang> cruskai239, no swap at all?
[07:41] <cruskai239> 10 gb
[07:41] <lartza> popey: Does ubuntu have a fallback kernel?
[07:41] <lartza> Like a rescue kernel
[07:41] <popey> lartza: dunno what that means, I usually leave a few kernels kicking around though
[07:42] <lartza> popey: Like kernel.img and kernel-fallback.img?
[07:42] <lartza> A rescue kernel
[07:42] <popey> lartza: no
[07:42] <popey> not by default
[07:42] <lartza> 50M it is then :)
[07:43] <popey> heh
[07:45] <envygeeks> wait, ubuntu does have a rescue mode where it drops everything from the Kernel
[07:45] <envygeeks> you should be able to tap esc over and over on 11.04+ and access it
[07:46] <fedy> Hello does anyone use recordmyDesktop?
[07:49] <onez> yes I use recordmyDektop
[07:49] <fedy> onez
[07:49] <fedy> HOw much ram should I be have install to use it?
[07:50] <lartza> fedy: How much do you have? Won't it work?
[07:50] <onez> I dont know, but in my netbook which only 1 GB RAM, it's OK
[07:50] <fedy> My system is only has 514 MB and when I install it slows down my system
[07:50] <fedy> so I am guess i got to buy a stick of ram
[07:51] <ThomasB2k> ping
[07:51] <lartza> pong
[07:51] <ThomasB2k> thanks
[07:51] <popey> fedy: i stopped using recordmydesktop because it was too heavy
[07:51] <lartza> Why do you have to record and what? :/
[07:51] <popey> fedy: http://lwn.net/Articles/452233/
[07:51] <popey> thats what I do now
[07:52] <tomek_> anyone used sco unix or hp unix?
[07:52] <popey> it records video from screen, and audio from the sound card and from a microphone
[07:52] <fedy> thx popey
[07:52] <popey> np
[07:52] <bug2000> Something went wrong with my grub after reinstalling the MBR. It trys to load (hd0,0)/boot when (hd0,0) is a boot partition [So the OS loads it as /boot/boot]. How do I fix it? [Grub1]
[07:52] <trenth> On ubuntu 11.04
[07:52] <trenth> How do I make it look like 9.10?
[07:52] <accel_> not ranting: is it just me, or does ubuntu 11 seem quite a bit more broken than ubuntu 10?
[07:52] <accel_> i recently upgraded to 11
[07:52] <accel_> then went back to 10.04
[07:53] <trenth> nvm
[07:55] <maalac> hi, need help in reseting bios password on ProBook 6555b? already remove the batter but still ask for password
[07:55] <lartza> maalac: Of course
[07:56] <lartza> maalac: You need to remove the motherboard battery for quite some time
[07:56] <zagibu> Dapper Drake was the best release, you should go back to that ;)
[07:56] <zagibu> maalac: or there might be a reset bios jumper on the board
[07:56] <maalac> lartza: how many minutes ? it's not attached to it right now but still not resetting..
[07:57] <zagibu> or clear cmos
[07:57] <lartza> maalac: The motherboard battery not the laptop battery?
[07:57] <lartza> Also try backdoor passwords http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.html
[07:57] <onez> anyone have suggestion? I wanna buy audio interface for recording.
[07:57] <maalac> lartza: yes, that's what i did ..
[07:57] <lartza> maalac: Yea sorry, some people would just probably remove the laptop battery :)
[07:57] <zagibu> malaac: also, you shouldn't steal other ppl's laptops
[07:57] <lartza> To be sure :)
[07:58] <maalac> lartza: this is my laptop provided by HP. I just need to enable something on the bios to work on the 64bit virtualization
[07:59] <maalac> zagibu: ..this is my laptop provided by HP
[07:59] <sedawk> how do I make a command normally running as root runnable by anyone?
[08:00] <lartza> maalac: Look for the CLEAR CMOS jumper?
[08:00] <lartza> Clr, clrpws, passwd, password, pwd, clear
[08:01] <maalac> ok ...its inside the motherboard right ?
[08:01] <maalac> labelled something like that right ?
[08:01] <dyd> what tool can i use to verify the integrity of an hd?
[08:02] <lartza> maalac: Yes, and the battery can take 15 minutes to 12 hours to clear CMOS :)
[08:02] <lartza> maalac: So jumper is easier if you have one on the board
[08:02] <maalac> do you haveppen to have diagram for this model : Probook 6555b?
[08:02] <lartza> what motherboard? :)
[08:03] <maalac> board for this laptop ..
[08:05] <csdwifi> may have found a minor annoying bug.  Is there anything documented about System Testing locking out if password form is cancelled?
[08:05] <lartza> maalac: http://www.365laptoprepair.com/ebay_images/4069_HP-ProBook-6455b-6555b-Motherboard-613397-001-TESTED_1.JPG
[08:05] <lartza> but the image is pretty small still
[08:05] <lartza> can't really see jumpers
[08:05] <lartza> or labels
[08:06] <aikInsaan> what partition formats does the EFI bootloader understand?
[08:06] <wasanzy> I though cp -rf is suppose to force copy a whole directory? but is not doing so for me, still asking me to override or not, what am I missing out?
[08:06] <aikInsaan> *which fs formats does*
[08:06] <maalac> ok thanks for this.. i'll look for it ..
[08:06] <Chousuke> aikInsaan: I think that depends on what drivers it has
[08:07] <aikInsaan> Chousuke, hmm...i have not clue about bootloaders...any resource you can point me to grasp the basics?
[08:08] <Chousuke> aikInsaan: I don't know much about EFI either to be honest; But I think it should usually be able to boot from most common filesystems
[08:08] <aikInsaan> hmm
[08:08] <accel_> grub source code
[08:08] <lartza> maalac: Could be under that damn sticker possibly?
[08:08] <accel_> or for osx related, reFIT source code
[08:09] <maalac> yes could be..
[08:09] <maalac> need to shutdown and open it up ..
[08:09] <fedy> popey: how do u install?
[08:09] <lartza> maalac: Try the backdoor passwords?
[08:10] <lartza> maalac: You need to know what it is AMI, Phoenix etc. (the BIOS)
[08:10] <lartza> maalac: http://www.tech-faq.com/reset-bios-password.html
[08:11] <maalac> haven't tried backdoor passwords..
[08:14] <dlirit> how can I mount an nfs share with specific user/group owning the /mnt/share folder?
[08:14] <ajah> from synaptic i completely remove grub-pc and grub2 not when start the machine i see black screen file not found and grub rescue prompt how do i fix this
[08:14] <ajah> now*
[08:15] <ppos> ajah you need to reinstall grub
[08:17] <ajah>  ppos any tutorial how to do that
[08:17] <gogeta> ajah: do what
[08:18] <csdwifi> wasanzy - sudo cp -prfv dir1 dir2  - what happens?
[08:19] <ajah> gogeta installing grub2 because now  i don`t have grub-pc and grub2
[08:19] <daniel__> hello i upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and my wifi card wont work it says its installed in addtional drivers does anyone know how to get it working again
[08:20] <gogeta> !grub | ajah
[08:20] <Mandrew> hello is there a safe way to purge unity?
[08:21] <gogeta> Mandrew: purge?
[08:21] <Mandrew> gogeta, uninstall
[08:21] <gogeta> Mandrew: lol yea run a remix like kubuntu or xubuntu
[08:21] <daniel__> mandrew, ha is there a way that they coulda made ubuntu better after the update and not worse lol i havnt found out
[08:21] <gogeta> Mandrew: or install another window manaer
[08:22] <gogeta> Mandrew: always the good thing abought linux dont like the defult settings change it
[08:22] <Mandrew> hehe funny guys but the thing is that you have booth gnome and unity installed in ubuntu 11.04 and i dont want unity in the system
[08:23] <Mandrew> gogeta, thats what i want and i want ti purge unity ;)
[08:23] <gogeta> Mandrew: well gnome 2 is gone
[08:23] <gogeta> Mandrew: 11.10 no fallback to gnome 2
[08:24] <Mandrew> gogeta, im on 11.04 so i still have gnome2
[08:24] <gogeta> Mandrew: unfortanly in a stock ubuntu the unity is kinda stuck with you
[08:24] <gogeta> Mandrew: being if you took out the meta package it would take gnome 2 as well
[08:25] <Mandrew> not really cuz in synaptic i can find it but im not sure i can safely uninstall it
[08:25] <gogeta> Mandrew: you can defently try
[08:26] <gogeta> Mandrew: but later just simply avoide stock ubuntu
[08:26] <gogeta> Mandrew: i run xfce
[08:26] <Mandrew> gogeta, ok well that was good info ;) well maybe i could try to install gnome2 as well then
[08:27] <gogeta> Mandrew: run one of the remixes or mint ubuntu based but with any gui you whant bascily
[08:27] <Mandrew> i dont like xubuntu nor kubuntu but i really love ubuntu and i dont want to change, just can agree with the stupid decision to use unity
[08:28] <gogeta> Mandrew: it was cannels personal vendetta agenst gnome 3 is why we got unity dispite the fact gnome 3 can be totaly changed being it uses js
[08:28] <Mandrew> gogeta, i like a proper desktop, not this bs with unity :(
[08:29] <Mandrew> why are they fighting gogeta ?
[08:29] <gogeta> Mandrew: why im usinf xfce it acts mutch like gnome 2
[08:29] <Mandrew> ok
[08:29] <gogeta> Mandrew: i dunno lol they just didnt like it
[08:30] <gogeta> Mandrew: the good part sfxe uses gtk3 to so gnome 3 apps also work hehe
[08:30] <Mandrew> gogeta, are you using gnome applets in your install
[08:30] <gogeta> Mandrew: i have a few apples from gnome but mostly sfce stuff
[08:31] <Mandrew> okl
[08:31] <gogeta> Mandrew: you probly ran a older xfce with its relly relly crappy theme
[08:31] <vivanov> amd64 oneiric new install, installed exported list of packages from another pc, got an error 'failed to load session "ubuntu"' -- how to fix?
[08:31] <gogeta> Mandrew: or the crap theme ubuntu uses
[08:31] <Mandrew> i was running latest xubuntu gogeta
[08:32] <e2> I was using the alternate installer and doing a network install when I lost connection, I reconnected but it broke the current step "Select and install software"
[08:32] <gogeta> Mandrew: yea but if it was years ago its totaly diffrent
[08:32] <e2> it doesn't seem to be a lock problem, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place?
[08:32] <jcreek> Mandrew, When you boot up 11.04, the first screen is your user name. Click on this, and the next screen is for password. Before you enter your password, look at the bottom panel. Click on Ubuntu and a list of desk top options will open. Click on Classic Ubuntu and you will have the Gnome desktop again. Enjoy.
[08:32] <Mandrew> the xubuntu 11.04 gogeta ;)
[08:32] <gogeta> Mandrew: but i prefer mints xfce mint menu is awsome'
[08:32] <Gunz4MiPPle> I have an old nvidia pci card, but Additional Drivers is telling me it wants to install a free driver...
[08:33] <Mandrew> jcreek, thats what im doing but i dont want unity in my system ;)
[08:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> and nouvoe is already loaded
[08:33] <Mandrew> so gogeta your on mints xfce remix?
[08:33] <Gunz4MiPPle> ce_imut: dont spam on join
[08:34] <gogeta> Mandrew: well the mint menu is on all there mixes
[08:34] <gogeta> Mandrew: but yes mint with xfce
[08:34] <Mandrew> gogeta, yea i know that ;)
[08:34] <andrewh192> wow, things are sorta going crazy on the server aren't they
[08:35] <gogeta> Mandrew: with gnome and ubuntu blowing up there interface it seems the only sane manager left well lxde as well
[08:35] <jcreek> Mandrew, You shouldn't be bothered with it again after setting your preference, but this is the last version of Ubuntu to offer that option.
[08:38] <gogeta> jcreek: 11.10 is gonna be a epic yrainwreck heh being gnome 2 will be gone
[08:38] <gogeta> trainwreck
[08:39] <lartza> on ira heränny
[08:39] <oCean> Gunz4MiPPle: you can report the spam in #ubuntu-ops
[08:40] <Gunz4MiPPle> oCean: i dont wanna feel like a tattle tail :P
[08:40] <jcreek> gogeta, Linuxmint is great. In many ways I like it better than Ubuntu. The only short coming is that there is no Ubuntu One.
[08:40] <Mandrew> aaah well then soon all hope will be lost ;)
[08:40] <Mandrew> bbl
[08:41] <gogeta> jcreek: heh you use that
[08:41] <Rickard_> Hi, I have a win 7 laptop and want to install ubuntu.. is it possible to do it when win7 already installed?
[08:42] <gogeta> Rickard_: yep
[08:42] <Rickard_> gogeta, does the ubuntu installer offer this or do I have to do any partiotioning?
[08:42] <oCean> Gunz4MiPPle: that's fine too. However we cannot take action if there's no report of what actually happened
[08:43] <jcreek> gogets, yeah sure Ubuntu One has 256 bit download rate or better, which is just as good as Amazon and iTunes.
[08:43] <gogeta> Rickard_: you can do the wubi rought if you do not whant to partation
[08:43] <ajah> i`ve successfully reinstall grub2 from live cd but not when i start the machine it show me some prompt sh:grub> what should i do (i don`t have installed grub-pc)
[08:43] <Rigin> hi
[08:44] <gogeta> Rickard_: the installer also has some automatic options when it comes installing along windows
[08:44] <tarelerulz> What is the best dvd authoring software out there ?
[08:45] <Gunz4MiPPle> which driver for nvidia mx 420
[08:45] <tarelerulz> What is good dvd authoring software that is open source  for linux ?
[08:45] <Gunz4MiPPle> im going to try 173
[08:46] <gogeta> Gunz4MiPPle: lol lemmie look i got one thats cross platform just forgot the name
[08:47] <gogeta> Gunz4MiPPle: dvdflick
[08:47] <th3fjong> hi ;)
[08:47] <th3fjong> i've just installed backtrack again :)
[08:48] <th3fjong> long time no see :P
[08:48] <oCean> th3fjong: this is not the backtrack channel
[08:48] <gogeta> Gunz4MiPPle: http://www.dvdstyler.org/en/downloads
[08:48] <gogeta> Gunz4MiPPle: dead simple ones to use
[08:49] <Rickard_> Is wubi good enough to work with or is it slow?
[08:49] <Slart> tarelerulz: depends on what you're going to do... devede is useful for makeing dvds from existing movies.. but there's not much room for creativity
[08:49] <Gunz4MiPPle> gogeta: i appreciate that, but they are already in apt
[08:49] <th3fjong> wubi is fine ;)
[08:49] <ajah> how i can boot ubuntu from sh:grub> prompt ?
[08:49] <gogeta> Rickard_: well the hdd speeds is a bit slower
[08:49] <th3fjong> yeah ofc it is :)
[08:49] <gogeta> Rickard_: other then that its works just fine
[08:50] <tarelerulz> Slart , would love to be  creative ,but  they never seem to work.    I get one video that works and the rest mess up.    same with transcoding
[08:50] <th3fjong> anyone of you are very in to backtrack ? :)
[08:50] <Slart> tarelerulz: you're talking about devede now? you've tried it?
[08:50] <oCean> th3fjong: backtrack is offtopic, try #backtrack-linux
[08:51] <th3fjong> oh ok thx ;)
[08:51] <th3fjong> * #backtrack-linux :Cannot send to channel
[08:51] <th3fjong> what do i do ?
[08:52] <th3fjong> never tried that before
[08:52] <samsul> try /list find backtrack channel
[08:52] <tarelerulz> I have never  devede .   Plus, they are for like one dvd at time.   They take so much time I would  love to make  like 3 iso in row .  Like over night
[08:54] <Slart> tarelerulz: I'm not sure if devede has some kind of background engine you can send off jobs to..  but give it a try.. it's point and click, sensible defaults and you should now pretty soon if it's the tool for you
[08:54] <oCean> samsul: it is the correct channel name. Also, to search for channels, you can use /msg alis list ubuntu for example
[08:54] <Hapieie> Iemand nederlands (A)
[08:54] <oCean> Hapieie: in #ubuntu-nl
[08:54] <Hapieie> Dankuuu :P
[08:54] <rich> Hi, could anyone share knowledge on git behind proxy server?
[08:55] <oCean> rich: maybe try #git channel?
[08:56] <tarelerulz> dvd authoring   and transcoding all see to have the same problem.   it hard to find good one for point and click.   I have 8 core and good video card I would love to try out using the gpu so  could still do stuff
[08:56] <Valrin> Any way to get Ventrilo?
[08:56] <antii> hmpf.. how come my apt-get update takes ages and everything else works fine on my linux installation, got no problems with browsing the web, its fast there
[08:56] <gogeta> tarelerulz: dvdflick seemd to be dead easy and everything came out fine
[08:56] <gogeta> tarelerulz: same for dvdstyle
[08:57] <mang0> Is there a way I can move the virtual C drive from wine? I've got two (real) internal HDDs, and I want wine stuff on the other one to what it's on now....
[08:57] <tarelerulz> what about testing out the iso ?  Is that easy
[08:57] <gogeta> tarelerulz: tossed it in my dvd player
[08:57] <Obeyance> Is there a Lucid Puppy support room?
[08:58] <mang0> #puppy?
[08:58] <mang0> Idk
[08:58] <iceroot> mang0: but the folder on the new drive and mount the new drive/partion ton ~/.wine/
[08:58] <Obeyance> #puppy
[08:58] <ikonia> Obeyance: the channel is called #puppylinux
[08:58] <ikonia> Obeyance: type "/join #puppylinux"
[08:58] <mang0> iceroot: K, thanks
[08:59] <gogeta> tarelerulz: and i think ubuntu will do a loopback mount on iso files via right click now
[08:59] <jeremyb_> uit
[08:59] <Valrin> Any way to get Ventrilo?
[09:00] <gogeta> Valrin: its called managler its vent for linux
[09:00] <tarelerulz> So I don't wast whole dvd-r . I could just play the iso file and  see if it works or not.
[09:00] <Valrin> Thanks :)
[09:00] <gogeta> Valrin: http://www.mangler.org/
[09:01] <joshmc> gogeta: re tarelerulz in nautilus it's `archive mounter'.
[09:01] <gogeta> tarelerulz: yep
[09:02] <Senix> so, i installed ubuntu side by side with windows 7 and now my windows 7 wont boot.
[09:02] <Senix> how would i fix this??
[09:02] <gogeta> tarelerulz: and the mount command it pretty smart these days you can just do mount dvd.iso /mnt/cdrom
[09:04] <alex--> How to make a script for the terminal that asks the user to fill in a name?
[09:04] <gogeta> tarelerulz: bascily you can put it in the same folder as  ubuntu uses for real cds so all the apps think a real disk was inserted
[09:04] <Senix> alex--: ask in #bash
[09:05] <padi999> Dear ubuntu-devs: If you give me a popup, that AN application wants to access the Default keyring, then have the decency to say WHICH application that is. I have 3 popups after each other on every login. And I don't like typing my password 4 times every login. Thanks
[09:06] <gogeta> padi999: relly i set my key to unlock all apps
[09:06] <gogeta> padi999: once and everything uses it
[09:06] <alex--> Senix: can i use ubuntu commands in it?
[09:06] <Senix> alex--: any .sh script will run terminal commands.
[09:07] <gogeta> padi999: waent that the point in keyring so it didnt pup up 4 times heh
[09:13] <yesitisjustme> does adobe flash work in wine?
[09:13] <iceroot> yesitisjustme: why not use the real one?
[09:13] <iceroot> !appdb | yesitisjustme
[09:14] <arthurwii> Hi all
[09:14] <yesitisjustme> because can't use gmail phone with linux browser
[09:15] <iceroot> yesitisjustme: what?
[09:16] <iceroot> yesitisjustme: what is a gmail phone?
[09:16] <Infernet> yesitisjustme: test with vmware
[09:16] <yesitisjustme> do you use gmail?
[09:16] <Infernet> no
[09:17] <iceroot> yesitisjustme: what is a gmail phone?
[09:17] <Infernet> only mail service
[09:17] <yesitisjustme> oh on gmail it says phone and it lets you use the phone for free
[09:17] <ThinkT510> i use gmail, never heard of gmail phone, is it usa specific?
[09:17] <yesitisjustme> is like skype phone but free
[09:17] <mang0> How do I search for hidden files?
[09:17] <arthurwii> hmmm
[09:17] <Infernet> gmail+?
[09:17] <Infernet> :S
[09:17] <Slart> mang0: filenames starting with a dot
[09:17] <arthurwii> google +
[09:18] <Infernet> sure
[09:18] <mang0> Slart: I mean with the file searcher?!
[09:18] <mang0> do I just put .wine or whatever?
[09:18] <Slart> mang0: I think that will work.. tried it?
[09:18] <yesitisjustme> wine can't install msi?
[09:18] <mang0> Slart: no, I will now, thankyou. :)
[09:18] <ParkerR> yesitisjustme, it can
[09:18] <Infernet> yesitisjustme: btw, vmware it's another great soft emulation
[09:18] <ParkerR> Try wine start filename.msi
[09:19] <Slart> mang0: .wine is normally in your home folder.. ~/.wine    or   /home/<yourusername>/.wine
[09:19] <Infernet> yesitisjustme: try it
[09:19] <mang0> I'm looking for ..c:blah blah cuz I tried to move it and it didn't work slart :/
[09:19] <ThinkT510> Infernet: why not suggest virtualbox?
[09:19] <Free-man> mornin
[09:19] <Slart> mang0: ah.. I see
[09:20] <yesitisjustme> i installed opera on wine but can't install adobe flash player on wine does wine not able to install adobe flash?
[09:21] <ThinkT510> yesitisjustme: you can install opera natively on linux
[09:21] <ParkerR> Is there a way to disable my internal webcam? I am trying to use zbarcam with an external manual focus webcam but it keeps activating the built in one.
[09:21] <szal> yesitisjustme: srsly, why do you install Opera in Wine?  what's wrong w/ the native Linux version?
[09:21] <Free-man> ParkerR tape over the eye? :)
[09:21] <techhelper1> User: e_imut!~ce_imut@114.79.49.104   spammed me (in a pm) with another server to connect to, just letting the ops know it works by joining this channel
[09:21] <ParkerR> XD
[09:22] <yesitisjustme> because you can't use gmail phone with linux browser it says only for windows when i try thats why
[09:22] <Slart> ParkerR: you might be able to blacklist the module/driver for the webcam.. and hope the other webcam doesn't use the same module/driver
[09:22] <Wally> techhelper1: try #freenode
[09:22] <oCean> techhelper1: if you want, you can report in #ubuntu-ops
[09:22] <user> techhelper1: HUh?
[09:22] <Free-man> techhelper1 mention ce_imut too for sme thing
[09:22] <Free-man> sam
[09:23] <techhelper1> i meant that person
[09:23] <Free-man> ce_imut
[09:23] <techhelper1> i missed a letter on copying
[09:23] <oCean> Free-man: techhelper1 please stop that discussion here
[09:23] <oCean> Free-man: techhelper1 report problems in #ubuntu-ops please
[09:23] <yesitisjustme> it says adobe flashplayer already installed but the browser flash test does not detect it
[09:24] <Free-man> oCean mind-reading is verbooten.
[09:24] <yesitisjustme> vmware is better than wine?
[09:25] <Wally> yesitis
[09:25] <ParkerR> Slart, ok how would I determine which one it uses and how would I blacklist? grep comes to mind when identifing
[09:25] <Slart> yesitisjustme: vmware is different from wine.. better for some things.. worse for others
[09:25] <ThinkT510> yesitisjustme: it is different, vmware is a virtualisation solution and wine is a compatibilty layer
[09:26] <ParkerR> WIINE has better graphics support
[09:26] <ParkerR> Can do the PC games
[09:26] <Slart> ParkerR: lsmod will give you a list of modules in use.. you could use lsusb to check what the webcam identifies itself as
[09:26] <ParkerR> *WINE
[09:26] <lartza> init: ureadahead something terminated with status 4
[09:26] <lartza> On boot
[09:26] <Slart> ParkerR: but it's probably one of 3 maybe 4 drivers.. there aren't that many
[09:26] <yesitisjustme> has anyone installed opera and adobe flash in wine before or maybe only works in firefox?
[09:27] <lartza> and boot is black for quite some time after grub? :S
[09:27] <lartza> (Server edition)
[09:27] <ParkerR> Slart, ok names :)
[09:27] <szal> yesitisjustme: http://www.google.com/chat/voice/ <- "Requires XP+ / Mac OS X 10.4+ / Linux"
[09:27] <szal> that's what it says
[09:28] <Wally> yesitisjustme: I don't think Adobe supports Wine or Linux :/
[09:28] <lartza> init: ureadahead-other main process (562) terminated with status 4
[09:28] <Slart> ParkerR: uvc something.., gspca, v4l .. those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head
[09:28] <szal> yesitisjustme: the download button offers me .deb and .rpm format for download
[09:29] <ParkerR> v4l1_compat            10250  2 uvcvideo,videodev
[09:29] <Slart> ParkerR: here's a thread from ubuntuforums discussion turning off webcams http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291061
[09:29] <yesitisjustme> but on linux i think it says it only works with fedora and opensuse or suse and no other linux only those i think i read
[09:29] <yesitisjustme> oh
[09:30] <citizen-stig> hi
[09:30] <helios__> hey all
[09:30] <ThinkT510> yesitisjustme: .deb is for debian and ubuntu, .rpm is for suse and fedora
[09:30] <citizen-stig> could i run script in cron every30 seconds?
[09:30] <yesitisjustme> ok
[09:30] <Slart> ParkerR: ah.. then it's using uvcvideo .. you can remove that by running    sudo modprobe -r uvcvideo
[09:31] <ParkerR> Slart, do i need to rebbot?
[09:31] <Slart> ParkerR: nope, it should work right away
[09:31] <llutz_> citizen-stig: with standard cron, just with some weird scripting tricks
[09:32] <ParkerR> I get this with the one I want to use unplugged FATAL: Module gspca_main is in use.
[09:32] <ParkerR> Slart,
[09:32] <citizen-stig> llutz_: thx
[09:32] <ParkerR> So I think that is the one I want
[09:33] <Slart> ParkerR: and then you'll just have to hope that that other webcam doesn't use the same driver/module =)
[09:33] <ParkerR> Slart, well I mean did it unload it or not?
[09:33] <Free-man> ParkerR get a pm
[09:34] <Slart> ParkerR: no error messages usually means it worked
[09:34] <Slart> ParkerR: you can check again with lsmod and see if it's gone
[09:34] <ParkerR> I said it said FATAL
[09:34] <ParkerR> parker@crunchbang:~$ sudo modprobe -r gspca_main
[09:34] <ParkerR> [sudo] password for parker:
[09:34] <ParkerR> FATAL: Module gspca_main is in use.
[09:34] <ParkerR> parker@crunchbang:~$ lsmod
[09:34] <ParkerR> Woo not warning XD
[09:34] <ikonia> ParkerR: crunchbang isn't supported here
[09:35] <ParkerR> Close
[09:35] <ParkerR> And #crunchbang is dead right now
[09:35] <ikonia> ParkerR: the channel #crunchbang is the right place
[09:35] <ikonia> ParkerR: just because it's dead doesn't mean you get support here
[09:35] <ParkerR> I'm already in it
[09:35] <ikonia> ParkerR: please try to use the correct channel in future
[09:35] <Slart> ParkerR: ah.. it's in use.. try removing the other modules listed next to uvcvideo in the lsmod output..
[09:36] <nt1972> can anyone tell me are there any ubuntu website show me all the ubuntu command line
[09:36] <szal> !commands | nt1972
[09:36] <ikonia> nt1972: you need "generic" linux command line help, such as tldp.org
[09:37] <nt1972> but I am looking for the webise
[09:37] <nt1972> website
[09:37] <ikonia> nt1972: you've just been given some
[09:37] <szal> nt1972: also see the links at the end of the above mentioned article
[09:38] <nt1972> and where can I check ubuntu support which hardware also (desktop)
[09:38] <nt1972> in ver ver 11
[09:38] <ThinkT510> !hcl | nt1972
[09:42] <mang0> Uh oh. Guys, I followed a site explaining how to move the wine c drive, and I used the terminal method. I ran these two commands:  mv -v .wine/drive_c media and then ln -sv media .wine/drive_c.
[09:42] <mang0> media being the new location
[09:42] <Free-man> ParkerR ok then, as root, dmesg | less; search within that output for $vendor
[09:42] <mang0> I just realised I want it to be /media....how do I undo the commands?
[09:42] <ParkerR> Free-man, wrong place
[09:42] <nt1972> the website https://wiki.ubuntu.com didn't help
[09:43] <ikonia> !hcl | nt1972
[09:43] <Dreamscape> hey all i've got multiple wifi devices on my laptop which id like to be able to switch between now and then, im currently using Wicd network manager but when i change from wlan0 to wlan1 it doesnt work are there any better wifi managers out there you could recommend?
[09:45] <ThinkT510> !info networkmanager
[09:45] <ThinkT510> !find networkmanager
[09:45] <Dreamscape> :)
[09:45] <nt1972> what I mean is I am planning to get a new computer and I also know which motherborad is ok for ubuntu!! any website I can type in the motherborad model and tell me ok
[09:46] <nt1972> the webiste u give us didn't do that
[09:46] <niklasfi> what is the easiest way of ensuring that a folder is deleted on logout?
[09:46] <Tech-1> gigabyte or asus
[09:46] <nt1972> ASUS
[09:46] <Tech-1> newegg.com
[09:46] <ikonia> Tech-1: this is nothing to do with #ubuntu
[09:47] <ikonia> nt1972: you need to look at each component on the motherboard and look at it's linux support capabilities
[09:47] <nt1972> I am going to buy the ASUS P8H61-V3 H61 B3
[09:49] <Slart> niklasfi: there are ways of running a script when a user logs out.. would that work?
[09:49] <xxmmaann> hi
[09:49] <Free-man> hi
[09:50] <frank> Hi guys
[09:51] <Free-man> hi
[09:51] <frank> i have 11.04 and my Chrome browser is lagging after standby (xorg show high load)
[09:51] <frank> can anybody help me ?
[09:51] <niklasfi>  Slart: would be a good start
[09:52] <Slart> niklasfi: hang on a sec
[09:52] <xxmmaann> i my system not start error > disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter like this http://www.trucoswindows.com/tutoriales/fotos_windows/tutorial3/foto8.jpg
[09:53] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: what does that have to do with ubuntu
[09:54] <xxmmaann> i dont know
[09:54] <Hyperbyte> :D
[09:54] <frank> know anybody high load on xorg process after resume from standby ?
[09:54] <Slart> niklasfi: here are some suggestions.. I would go with the one about /etc/X11/gdm/PostSession
[09:54] <frank> (at using chrome browser)
[09:55] <Slart> niklasfi: beware that the thread is quite old.. some names might have changed
[09:55] <ikonia> xxmmaann: try ##windows
[09:55] <xxmmaann> i have used ubuntu yesterday (5 minutes) when my pc has shutdown and after restart i get this error
[09:56] <Slart> niklasfi: here's another thread with another method.. run as the user, not as root http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252935
[09:56] <xxmmaann> so i used ubuntu no windows
[09:56] <niklasfi> Slart: i just learned that autofs is what i am looking for
[09:56] <ikonia> xxmmaann: sounds like you have deleted your OS on your disk]
[09:56] <Slart> niklasfi: ah.. great... always better to use the proper tool
[09:57] <Wally> xxmmaann: sounds like your hard drive is screwed OR your OS is corrputed
[09:57] <xxmmaann> ikonia: no im on live cd now and i cant see the hdd im my computer
[09:57] <ikonia> xxmmaann: yes, it sounds like you've deleted your operating system
[09:57] <Wally> HDD is destroyed.
[09:57] <xxmmaann> no
[09:57] <xxmmaann> Wally: may be
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see an NTFS partition?
[09:58] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: have you disconnected the harddrive?
[09:58] <Wally> What sort of computer?
[09:58] <niklasfi> ChemicalForce: yes we all may help you but not in a private chat ;)
[09:59] <xxmmaann> ActionParsnip: that command not work
[09:59] <xxmmaann> ThinkT510: no
[10:00] <xxmmaann> i have notdisconnected the harddrive
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> xxmmaann: copy and paste it, it will
[10:01] <Wally> xxmmaann: can you see the HDD in the Bios?
[10:01] <xxmmaann> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/688/screenshotom.png/
[10:01] <ikonia> xxmmaann: are you on an ubuntu livecd currently ?
[10:01] <gurkee> Hey. My gnome session hangs, mouse events are not registered anymore. Using strg+alt+F1 I changed to another terminal. How to log out / kill the gnome session from there?
[10:01] <final-host> list
[10:01] <Free-man> gurkee do you want to strart x11?
[10:01] <Wally> HDD GO BOOM
[10:01] <Free-man> gurkee restart
[10:01] <xxmmaann> now im on live cd and i cant see the hdd in the bios
[10:02] <ikonia> xxmmaann: if you can't see the hard disk in the bios - the harddisk has died
[10:02] <gurkee> Free-man, is it that what I want? I thought I need gnome-session-save --force-logout (--kill --silent), but it complains that there is not display available
[10:02] <xxmmaann> ikonia: yes
[10:02] <xxmmaann> but im not sure
[10:02] <Free-man> gurkee i just know howto use a hammer :)
[10:02] <ikonia> xxmmaann: it has, if the bios can't see the disk, you have a hardware problem
[10:02] <gurkee> Free-man, yeah, then tell me
[10:03] <Slart> gurkee: try adding    DISPLAY=:0.0  before that command
[10:03] <Free-man> gurkee as root, `killall Xorg' then use gnome's cmd to restart
[10:03] <Slart> gurkee: so    DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-session-save --force ...... and so on
[10:03] <Free-man> gurkee do slart's first
[10:03] <ChemicalForce> I have installed the additional drivers on my ubuntu 10.10 (ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver which is "Radeon HD 4200" but it seems nothing is function correctly I mean as in the 3d support please help me.
[10:03] <xxmmaann> ikonia:  im not sure because today the first time when i started my computer i saw the hdd in bios but after restart...
[10:04] <ikonia> xxmmaann: then you have a hardware problem
[10:04] <gurkee> Slart, Free-man, thanks!
[10:04] <Free-man> yw
[10:04] <xxmmaann> ikonia:  so , what should i do?
[10:04] <Tech-1> xxmmaann  check all the cables including power cable to the drive, some times there are lose connections, but thats 1 in a million chance.
[10:05] <dr_willis> ive had drive cables get 'cut/nicked' by sharp edges on the case. and by a mouse .. once. :)
[10:05] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: buy a new harddrive and restore the contents from a backup (you did make backups right?)
[10:05] <Tech-1> it does happen
[10:05] <ikonia> xxmmaann: visit a hardware specialist/repair person
[10:05] <xxmmaann> ThinkT510: i didnt backup my hdd
[10:06] <engrid> hi
[10:06] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: congratulations, you have just learned the hard way why to do so
[10:07] <xxmmaann> :-(
[10:07] <Wally> xxmmaann: any important stuff?
[10:07] <dr_willis> hard drives truely are the weakest link in the pc's these days.
[10:07] <xxmmaann> what?
[10:07] <newb> Hi peeps, just bought an internal hardrive and external case, hooked it up to ubuntu 10.04 and its not mounting, how do I check if its being seen by the computer
[10:07] <dr_willis> not counting the 'end user' :)  ive seen more hard drive failures in recent years then any other problems with pcs
[10:08] <ikonia> newb: have you put a file system and partition on it ?
[10:08] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: like ikonia suggested, see if a repair specialist can salvage the data from it, if you need it
[10:08] <newb> no
[10:08] <Tech-1> ya dr_willis  especially wd, they are getting a class action suit for their failures
[10:08] <ikonia> newb: that's why it's not mounting
[10:08] <engrid> hello, how do i enable/disable terminal on pressing ctrl+alt+f1-f6
[10:08] <newb> how do i do that
[10:08] <xxmmaann> ThinkT510: i have not any important dada on it
[10:09] <xxmmaann> but i cant use my pc withowt hdd:-(
[10:09] <ikonia> newb: open the partition manager tool, such as gparted, put a partition on it and a file system
[10:09] <Slart> engrid: there is a setting somewhere for how many of those that are started.. that might be useful.. let me search a bit
[10:09] <intlkleinblue> hi, i've generated my gpg/pgp key and uploaded it to public keyservers. i've setup my email client (evolution) to send and sign with gpg/gpg and tested it and it works. what i want to know is how to share my key. i see on some peoples websites on their about page: oh, here is my pgp/gpg key btw: and some listing of letters and numbers which is their key. i've tried to look for a pattern of some sort, but can't figure out what i need to 
[10:09] <ThinkT510> xxmmaann: you'll need to get a new harddrive then, you can make do for now with livecd or usb to use the pc without a harddrive
[10:10] <engrid> Slart, thanks for the response. Do i need to finger around with /etc/inittab ?
[10:10] <xxmmaann> ThinkT510:  ok:-(
[10:10] <DamnSoGooD> ActionParsnip, dude can you help regarding a 8gb SSD acer aspire one . I can't install ubuntu or any derivatives :c
[10:10] <dr_willis> engrid:  you can make there not be a login there by renaming the /etc/init/tty1.conf  (1-6) files. but I think you can still get to the screens.. just nothing there.
[10:10] <llutz_> intlkleinblue: read about "gpg keyserver"
[10:11] <DamnSoGooD> dr_willis, ActionParsnip, dude can you help regarding a 8gb SSD acer aspire one . I can't install ubuntu or any derivatives :c
[10:11] <engrid> dr_willis, thanks ill try that, how about not even switching to a dumb terminal
[10:11] <llutz_> intlkleinblue: "ltters and numbers" is the fingerprint of their key
[10:11] <intlkleinblue> llutz_: yes, i know what that is. i see my key when i go to pgp.mit.edu and search for my email. however, what do i share?
[10:12] <Slart> engrid: I'm not sure.. I'm trying to find that setting.. give me sec
[10:12] <llutz_> intlkleinblue: share your public key and spread its fingerprint
[10:12] <intlkleinblue> so i share the fingerprint: part llutz_ ?
[10:12] <dr_willis> DamnSoGooD:  ive never owned a SSD yet.  If all else fails you could install to a flash drive. then dd the image to the ssd. i guess.
[10:12] <engrid> Slart, thank you i'll wait while i try dr_willis suggestion
[10:13] <dr_willis> I recall some other neat tricks for the consoles. like making htop run on alt-ctrl-f8 and so forth. :)
[10:13] <newb> In my laptop I have a 250gb, I bouth a 500gb hard disk, I want to make a carbon copy of my old hard disk to the new one, how do i do this?
[10:13] <intlkleinblue> gotcha, i've shared the fingerprint part
[10:13] <dr_willis> or a resce shell/terminal always on alt-ctrl-f9 but i cant rember how i did it..
[10:13] <intlkleinblue> but what do you mean by spread its fingerprint?
[10:13] <DamnSoGooD> dr_willis, ouch, if that's so, i shall just install it in a usb stick.. but i can't make a usb act like a normal hard drive :c
[10:14] <xxmmaann> may be some cable but im not sure i have open the pc case for cleaning yesterday but the pc worked some minutes after this , so im not sure
[10:14] <xxmmaann> sorry for my english im RO
[10:14] <llutz_> intlkleinblue: add it to your mail-signature to let people know "ah thats his key, i can use to verify his mails"
[10:14] <szal> !ro | xxmmaann
[10:14] <dr_willis> DamnSoGooD:  you can do a normal install to a usb, then dd it to a hard drive to clone it over.. i did it from a 4gb flash to a 60gb hd once..
[10:14] <newb> how do i clone one hard disk to another
[10:15] <shomon> hi, how can I list the file encoding on a directory of files? I've tried with "file" but it doesn't show the charset...
[10:15] <dr_willis> newb:  dd command CAREFULL use of the dd command...
[10:15] <xxmmaann> i aleready tried using#ubuntu-ro withowt effect
[10:15] <newb> and do I have to partion the new one first
[10:15] <hexacode> anyone know alot about usb viruses? can they infect ubuntu? or do they infect the bios?
[10:15] <Slart> engrid: there is a setting in /etc/default/console-setup   you can try changing that
[10:15] <intlkleinblue> gotcha, thanks llutz_
[10:15] <dr_willis> hexacode:  i cant recall any viruses out that 'infect' the bios...
[10:15] <engrid> Slart, thank you. I'll try to configure with that.
[10:15] <DamnSoGooD> dr_willis, i have an ubuntu 10.04 live USB, and an empty USB stick, how can i install it into the usb stick?
[10:16] <newb> dr_willis, do I have to partion the new one before I do it
[10:16] <dr_willis> hexacode:  the usb viruses ive seen are just windows 'take advantage of the auto-run on plugin' feature.
[10:16] <Free-man> dr_willis LTNS (diff nick) i've seen bios killed by virii
[10:16] <dr_willis> newb:  if you are dding sda to sdb.. no..
[10:16] <hexacode> dr_willis  and thats how irans nuke plant got hacked lol...windows didnt have uac? i cant imagine iranians being that stupid
[10:17] <dr_willis> Free-man:  flashing  is differnt then infecting however. :) i recall years ago C64 viruses that could kill your floppy drive.. but thats not quote the same.,
[10:17] <Free-man> ya
[10:17] <dr_willis> hexacode:  a Nuke Plant Running Windows? thats scary..
[10:17] <hexacode> dr_willis yes they had it i think
[10:17] <rac_kemel> hello!
[10:17] <hexacode> well...the virus started on a laptop
[10:17] <dr_willis> I imagine that Nuke Plant stuff has more Fud and Urban Legands about it then we know real facts. :)
[10:18] <hexacode> can anyone think of any possible way for ubuntu to get infected by usb?
[10:18] <szal> hexacode, dr_willis: well, they can't use Red Hat/Fedora because it falls under US export restrictions ;)
[10:18] <dr_willis> hexacode:  i cant imagine how its possible.
[10:18] <hexacode> thanks
[10:18] <dr_willis> szal:  but they could download it theirself... :)
[10:18] <hexacode> szal lol they can use north koreas version of linux
[10:18] <hexacode> redstar OS
[10:18] <newb> dr_willis, like this;  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[10:18] <DamnSoGooD> dr_willis, how can i install ubuntu into a usb flash drive?
[10:19] <imgrey> good day #ubuntu
[10:19] <dr_willis> newb:  are you SURE those are the right disks? also you want a bs=2048   option for speed.
[10:19] <imgrey> what is natty ? testing/stable or unstable ?
[10:19] <imgrey> where I can read about versions ?
[10:19] <szal> !natty | imgrey
[10:19] <dr_willis> DamnSoGooD:  sameas youy do to a normal hd.. boot cd. (or a 2nd flash) tell it to insdtall/partion to the other flash. Be sure grub gets installed to it.
[10:19] <dr_willis> !versions
[10:19] <rac_kemel> I use Ubuntu 11.04. I update my system, and now i have two kernels. But i can not see the old kernel on Ubuntu-tweak (latest version) to clean it ? Is there any problem on my system ?
[10:19] <llutz_> imgrey: stable/testing/unstable is debian, not ubuntu
[10:19] <imgrey> what do you mean current release of ubuntu ?
[10:19] <imgrey> I use normal debian
[10:20] <imgrey> and ther'a unstable/testing and stable branches
[10:20] <dr_willis> rac_kemel:  i wouldent worry about having 2+ kernels.. when you get 10+ then you may want to clean some out.
[10:20] <szal> imgrey: Debian and Ubuntu are NOT the same
[10:20] <imgrey> I know
[10:20] <DamnSoGooD> ok thanks doc! :D
[10:20] <dr_willis> imgrey:  ubuntu dosent use the same 'method' like that.
[10:20] <imgrey> dr_willis, nothing to proud of
[10:20] <dr_willis> we got the LTS version,, then the non LTS versions that are the  playgrounds
[10:20] <dr_willis> imgrey:  whatever.. i find it works well for me.
[10:21] <newb> dr_willis, like this;  dd bs=2048 if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc, where sda is the original and sdc is the new one
[10:21] <Sidewinder1> imgrey, You might also have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[10:21] <[tla]> hi, i tried to release-upgrade from maverick to natty and after the reboot the server has no ssh listener running.  i know the server is up because i can ping it and nmap tells me the ps3media server and tor are running.  the server is headless and has no serial port.  it does have VGA (onboard and additional nvidia card) and a keyboard port.  when i power ir on i see no VGA output so have...
[10:21] <[tla]> ...no idea what is happening.  advice on best way to proceed please!  thx :)
[10:21] <dr_willis> newb:  the 2 disks are the same size?
[10:21] <imgrey> in fact I got an issue with virtualbox on ubuntu natty:
[10:21] <newb> dr_willis, no
[10:21] <imgrey> Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[10:21] <imgrey> Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root.
[10:21] <dr_willis> newb:  or is the sdc biger? if its smalller.. that can be a n issue.
[10:21] <newb> sdc is bigger
[10:21] <imgrey> it happened on one of programmer's desktop
[10:21] <imgrey> could someone tell me what I should do ?
[10:22] <szal> imgrey: did you do what it said?
[10:22] <imgrey> update Ubuntu ? remove it and install debian ?
[10:22] <dr_willis> newb:  after getting the dd done. You will wan tto use 'gparted' to resize the partitions to fill up the rest of the space. or make a new parittion to use the extra space.
[10:22] <imgrey> szad, of course
[10:22] <rac_kemel>  dr_willis: thank you first. I know that you told me :) . But i will clean the old one from synaptic. But I'm thinking why Ubuntu-tweak does not show me the old one. I will backup my system. I am worying for any problem now.
[10:22] <newb> dr_willis, so the terminal code is correct
[10:22] <ajah> i have installed grub-pc,grub2 and all staff installed but when i start the machine i see grub prompt and i can boot ubuntu with commands but when i try to boot using grub.cfg  ( configfile (hdX,Y)/boot/grub/grub.cfg ) i failed it echo syntax error invalid command invalid mode auto
[10:22] <imgrey> Im installing module-assistant
[10:22] <JimXL> [tka] you're locked out?
[10:22] <imgrey> lets see if it helps
[10:22] <dr_willis> newb:  looks right to me..  thats how i cloned a hd last week.
[10:23] <ajah> any help
[10:23] <newb> dr_willis, what does the bs=2048 do?
[10:23] <[tla]> JimXL: well there is no ssh daemon running so i cant even connect
[10:24] <Madhusudany2k> I am getting below error in Ubuntu 11 and X hangs
[10:24] <Madhusudany2k> *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung
[10:24] <JimXL> [tla]: and you can't log into the console?
[10:24] <nikolam> Anyone tried to make mdadm software raid on top of LVM-managed partitions on disks? I would like to have ability of file system snapshots in the future, before updating from LTS to newer releases...
[10:25] <nikolam> Anyone installed and using Ubuntu on BTRFS?
[10:25] <newb> dr_willis, the thing about dd it doesn't give you a progress percentage
[10:25] <[tla]> JimXL: i see no output from the console via VGA and server has no serial port.  i do have serial / usb converter but maybe it is too early in the boot process for it
[10:25] <nikolam> btrfs
[10:25] <JimXL> [tla]: Does it have a cd/dvd drive?  Usb port that it can boot from?
[10:25] <[tla]> JimXL: yes it has a dvd drive
[10:25] <imgrey> module-assistant doesnt help
[10:25] <imgrey> any ideas ?
[10:25] <[tla]> JimXL: I just dont see why i see nothing from VGA
[10:26] <dr_willis> newb:  ive seen some tools/scripts that can do it.. but ive never really needed it.,
[10:26] <llutz_> newb: as user in a 2nd terminal "killall -USR dd" will give you the progress
[10:26] <JimXL> [tla]: Perhaps it's not getting far enough
[10:26] <[tla]> JimXL: clearly server is actually booting as i can ping it etc
[10:26] <JimXL> [tla]: That's true.
[10:26] <llutz_> USR1 it is, sry
[10:26] <newb> llutz, tks
[10:26] <Hyperbyte> [tla], did you try pressing a key while VGA is plugged in?
[10:26] <[tla]> JimXL: and some apps are running - just not sshd
[10:26] <JimXL> [tla]: if it's getting that far then getty should be running.
[10:27] <dr_willis> newb:  as llutz_  mentioned you could do a 'watch -n 60 <thatcommandhegave>'
[10:27] <dr_willis> that would update evry min.
[10:27] <[tla]> JimXL: I dont even see BIOS screen which seems v odd
[10:27] <llutz_> newb: if theres only linux + data on the old disk, its faster to copy the stuff using rsync/tar/cp
[10:27] <ThinkT510> nikolam: you using btrfs on a production system?
[10:27] <JimXL> [tla]; hold the shift key down while rebooting to see if the grub menu comes up.
[10:27] <[tla]> Hyperbyte: yes
[10:27] <dr_willis> newb:  rcync/tar/cp would also be faster if the drive 1 is not very full..
[10:28] <newb> dr_willis, tks, approximately how long does it take for a 140gb to 450gb  ~?
[10:28] <llutz_> newb: just needs some changes in /etc/fstab and grub
[10:28] <dr_willis> newb:  no ide really. i normally do such commands then go to lunch. :)
[10:28] <nikolam> ThinkT510, No, I am using OpenSoalris/OpenIndiana/Soalris/ZFS on produvction system. Btrfs is not there yet.
[10:28] <JimXL> [tla] you have two vga cards?
[10:28] <JimXL> or ports
[10:28] <ThinkT510> nikolam: oh good
[10:28] <dr_willis> over ide/sata i would guess perhaps 2 hrs.. (guessing)
[10:28] <nikolam> I would just like to have file system snapshots when updating Ubuntu , with lvm, whatever
[10:29] <dr_willis> over usb... well.. overnight. :)
[10:29] <newb> llutz, I presume killall doesnt kill the process
[10:29] <dr_willis> newb:  if you forget to use that bs= option. it will take a lot longer
[10:29] <[tla]> JimXL: on-board VGA and nvidia card
[10:29] <newb> did it with bs
[10:29] <llutz_> newb: killall -USR1  sends the USR1-signal to that process, which will answer with progress-message in ths case
[10:29] <[tla]> JimXL: tried shift while booting and nothing
[10:29] <JimXL> Have you tried both?
[10:30] <JimXL> Both vga ports?
[10:30] <nikolam> ThinkT510, do not want to reinstall ubuntu if something goes wrong for update. Only things I know is that Linux LVM have snapshots , there is mdadm for software RAID that I currently use and there os Btrfs still in Beta
[10:30] <[tla]> JimXL: yes
[10:30] <JimXL> OK remove one of them, it's possible there's a conflict.
[10:30] <[tla]> JimXL: it's like it is not bringing either of them up
[10:30] <[tla]> JimXL: the nvidia also has HDMi which i havent tried
[10:31] <JimXL> If it's not activating the vga, it's probably not going to have HDMi output.
[10:31] <ThinkT510> nikolam: i have no experience with lvm or raid, i just wanted to make sure you were aware btrfs isn't production ready (which you evidently do)
[10:32] <nikolam> ThinkT510, I think there is one guy who installed Ubuntu from boot on ZFS, using still developing ZFS module for Linux. Only problem was file system permission being flat.
[10:32] <nikolam> Meaning, he installed, then copied install on ZFS
[10:32] <ThinkT510> nikolam: i assume thats zfs on fuse?
[10:32] <JimXL> [tla] silly question, does the monitor have power?  Is the switch on?
[10:32] <Judge> Hi there! Since Lucid there have some Daemons switched from /etc/init.d to upstart and it's /etc/init syntax. For managing the Start/Stop - Links in /etc/rc?.d , there were a tool, called update-rc.d . Is such a tool also available for the Upstart - Files?
[10:33] <[tla]> JimXL: ok, i see output on the nvidia VGA now.  seems the cable had to be connected before i powered it on for it to use it
[10:33] <nikolam> ThinkT510, no. native Linux ZFS. Still under development but can be tested
[10:33] <Judge> This is very interesting, since update-rc.d was very easy to use in scripts and the like.
[10:33] <JimXL> [tla] interesting.
[10:33] <[tla]> JimXL: see error: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready / present
[10:33] <nikolam> ThinkT510, i think there is article from time to time about it on phoronix.com
[10:34] <newb> tks guys
[10:34] <JimXL> [tla] good deal.
[10:34] <ThinkT510> nikolam: i thought there were licsence inompatibilities that prevent you from using zfs nativly on linux (hence the development of btrfs)
[10:34] <nikolam> ThinkT510, thing is that because of CDDL/GPL licensing differences, module could be compiled on site after install.
[10:35] <nikolam> Yes, ThinkT510 but noone stops yopu compiling it yourself, or even automatically compile it after install.
[10:35] <ThinkT510> nikolam: while this is interesting we better stop, its getting off topic
[10:35] <nikolam> ThinkT510, nope, I think it is on topic, I need FS snapshots for Ubunut upgrade. :P
[10:35] <nikolam> Seek LVM or other solution
[10:36] <[tla]> JimXL: oh dear, told it to "skip" and system seems to have crashed now - caps lock unresponsive :(
[10:37] <Phalstaff>  I am interested in terminal programs -- right now I am using gnome-terminal, but I can't help noticing all the other options.  I would like some input about what to look for in a terminal program.
[10:37] <JimXL> [tla] oops
[10:38] <need_help> hiya
[10:38] <need_help> i'm running ubuntu 10.10 and i have firefox 4 installed - how do i install firefox 3.6 to a separate place, so it doesn't interfere with my ff4 install?
[10:38] <JimXL> [tla] it may be related to the nvidia card.
[10:39] <ThinkT510> Phalstaff: i'd guess that depends on your usage of the terminal and what shell you want
[10:40] <[tla]> JimXL: it's weird can still ping the box and got root prompt after selecting "manual fix" but then keyboard has died again after a few keystrokes
[10:40] <JimXL> There's a bug for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/798086
[10:40] <JimXL> Apparently it's a timing issue.
[10:40] <JimXL> Reboot again and it may go away.
[10:41] <HektoR> Hello guys. is it possible to recover deleted file ? and how ?
[10:41] <JimXL> That's what some have reported.
[10:41] <coz_> Phalstaff,  try   terminator
[10:41] <coz_>  need_
[10:41] <coz_> darn
[10:41] <ntr0py> Has someone got Mathematica 8 to emit any sounds with OSS/Pulseaudio in Natty?
[10:41] <Sidewinder1> need_help, That sounds a little tricky; perhaps you could create a different user-name (help_needed?), log-in under that name and install FF 3.6 there. It's be a pain though, you'd have to switch users each time.
[10:42] <Phalstaff> I think they all use the bash shell ... I am thinking that if I were to distribute a program I would want a common terminal.
[10:42] <Noah> LoL ubuntu.
[10:42] <szal> Phalstaff: terminals use whatever shell is the user's login shell (by default, on *buntu it's /bin/dash)
[10:43] <szal> Noah: go troll elsewhere
[10:43] <JimXL> HektoR: maybe see this http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linuxunix-recover-deleted-files.html
[10:44] <Noah> You know, szal, you should petition ubuntu to support sparc. Even if you're a noob os, if you support sparc, you rock.
[10:44] <Phalstaff> Thank you szal that is news to me! I will check out what the Dash Shell is all about.
[10:44] <ThinkT510> !dash | Phalstaff
[10:44] <szal> Noah: Sparc is a niche architecture..  if you want Sparc, use Debian or NetBSD or SunOS ;)
[10:44] <Noah> Are you down w/ the dash shell?
[10:44] <Noah> szal or gentoo =]
[10:45] <Noah> or openbsd, or freebsd (old sparcs).
[10:45] <Noah> or inferno
[10:45] <Noah> or even nextos some sparc
[10:45] <Hyperbyte> Noah, why are you asking about Sparc if you already know the answer?
[10:45] <szal> Noah: just keep in mind that many Linuxen have even dropped PPC support, so don't expect something as exotic as Sparc to be widely supported
[10:46] <szal> Noah: but that discussion is off-topic here, feel free to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:46] <Noah> LoL.
[10:46] <Noah> Is there seriously a need for ubuntu?
[10:47] <[tla]> JimXL: it seems tty echo is also wrong - "stty echo" gives me normal output for a while then it hangs again.  i think this system is now very sick :(  priority is to get sshd running so i can connect remotely
[10:47] <ThinkT510> Noah: maybe not for you, but if your too good for ubuntu why are you here trolling?
[10:48] <JimXL> [tla]: start ssh see if it stays up.
[10:48] <coz_> for those that want to try an application but not install it ,, or a different version of one already installed,, if they are listed,, you might want to go here   http://portablelinuxapps.org/
[10:48] <JimXL> [tla]: you may have to back off of that buggy distro...
[10:48] <SuperLag> I've got an Ubuntu desktop box that I've reacently made headless. Are there services I can stop, and thinks I can do to free up resources and make it act more like a server, without going to the length of installing the Server edition right now?
[10:49] <SuperLag> recently, that is
[10:49] <szal> SuperLag: you might first of all want to strip it off X & put an ssh server on it (if you haven't already)
[10:50] <SuperLag> szal: it's got an ssh server already.
[10:51] <SuperLag> szal: does simply making sure gdm isn't starting stop all the stuff that would hog resources for the UI?
[10:51] <JimXL> SuperLag: here's what my server has running http://paste.ubuntu.com/649874/
[10:51] <LjL> hi, i've generated my gpg/pgp key and uploaded it to public keyservers. i've setup my email client (evolution) to send and sign with gpg/gpg and tested it and it works. what i want to know is how to share my key. i see on some peoples websites on their about page: oh, here is my pgp/gpg key btw: and some listing of letters and numbers which is their key. i've tried to look for a pattern of some sort, but can't figure out what i need to
[10:52] <LjL> (the above was a test, ignore please)
[10:52] <JimXL> SuperLag: you can compare it to your system and maybe find some things to shut down.
[10:52] <szal> LjL: you could've tested in -offtopic or in #test :P
[10:55] <SuperLag> JimXL: thank you.
[10:56] <NGC2068> how do I upgrade my ubuntu installation to windows?
[10:56] <ikonia> NGC2068: you don't, they are two different operating systems
[10:56] <SuperLag> ikonia: don't feed the trolls
[10:56] <JimXL> De\ nada
[10:56] <[tla]> JimXL: I think the upgrade is goosed.  sshd will not start.  lsb_release -a still says maverick.  do-release-upgtrade --mode=server fails because the eth0 ip is not set because the dhcp client is gone! argh :s
[10:57] <ntr0py> How can i get Mathematica 8.0.1 to play Sound in Natty?
[10:57] <JimXL> [tla] reinstall time.
[10:57] <mien> Hi, my server wont start, no errors, no nothing. just a blinking cursuor whith no text. What is more likely, the mbr does not exist or the kernel that my bootloader try to start does not exist?
[10:57] <SuperLag> ouch
[10:57] <mien> i thought both would give me an error...
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> mien: add the boot option, nomodeset
[10:58] <JimXL> mien do you see the grub menu?
[10:58] <mien> no, i dont see grub.
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> mien: also test your RAM
[10:59] <JimXL> mien ok when booting hold the shift key down to get the grub menu
[10:59] <JimXL> Then do what Parsnip said.
[10:59] <mien> k. ill try that. Back in a couple of min.
[10:59] <szal> mien: if I read correctly the other day, it's the left Shift key, to be precise
[10:59] <coz_> also test hard drive temps.. and if they are near full...yes?
[11:00] <JimXL> szal Interesting.  I never knew that.  Thanks for the update.  I've always used it by default.
[11:00] <stercor_> How do I set the F1-F6 screens to a higher resolution?
[11:01] <coz_> grub
[11:01] <stercor_> How do I set the F1-F6 screens to a higher resolution?
[11:01] <szal> !repeat | stercor_
[11:02] <[tla]> JimXL: i have manually config'd the eth0 and can now run do-release-upgrade.  I get *many* "no candidate found for ... package" messages
[11:03] <Phalstaff> I would never refer to a change from Ubuntu to Windows (or visa versa) as an upgrade -- but maybe that is just me.
[11:03] <HackNewton> stercor_, can you please explain your question more so everyone here get more idea about it
[11:03] <[tla]> JimXL: it then says "you system is upto date.  upgrade will be cancelled" followed by "do you want to start the upgrade"! :s
[11:04] <[tla]> JimXL: maybe the apt repository is goosed somehow?
[11:04] <mien> JimXL, Left shift key does not give me a grub menu. so i guess mbr is empty or something... but wouldent bios output something like "No mbr found on selected device" or somehting alike?
[11:04] <szal> mien: if it boots, then the Grub is there
[11:05] <mien> but it does not boot :)
[11:05] <coz_> mien,   are you holding the sift key down?
[11:05] <mien> so i guess grub is not there.
[11:05] <mien> coz_ yes, and i tried 2 times.
[11:05] <HackNewton> szal, sorry to correct but if you boot there should be some bootloader not* neccessary* grub
[11:06] <mien> its so strange. it have worked fine for 2 years and today we hade a ac loss and bam!
[11:06] <nyuszika7h> !flood
[11:06] <szal> HackNewton: on *buntu, for there to be something other than Grub, that would imply that you installed it yourself
[11:06] <mien> HaxkNewton, i suppouse we no one have changed Ubuntu default, so it would be grub...
[11:07] <JimXL> mien: are you seeing the bios?
[11:07] <HackNewton> okay ;)
[11:07] <mien> JimXL, yeah. I can see bios
[11:07] <mien> i figured it would be something with the raid configuration but i thing i have tried every available option :)
[11:07] <JimXL> Sounds like mbr might be hosed,
[11:07] <szal> stercor_: /etc/default/grub -> change GRUB_GFXMODE= to your desired value, then 'sudo update-grub' and reboot
[11:07] <nit-wit> mien, if that sever is rwo years old I think it is the esc key to pull up grub
[11:07] <nit-wit> *two
[11:08] <mien> nit-wit, ill try that.
[11:08] <JimXL> mien What distro? Version?
[11:08] <frxstrem> are there any good download managers for Ubuntu?
[11:08] <JimXL> frxstrem: filezilla
[11:08] <szal> frxstrem: define 'download manager
[11:09] <HackNewton> frxstrem, kget or uget
[11:09] <stercor_> szal: What's the format for the resolution?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: uget and fatrat are 2 I can think of quickly
[11:09] <szal> stercor_: <width>x<height> (w/o the brackets)
[11:10] <HackNewton> frxstrem, i prefer uget though
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: ive heard people go on about jdownloader too
[11:10] <mien> JimXL, im not the guy who installed the system but my colleauge told me it was ubuntu 10.4. But its defenitly ubuntu, not very sure about version.
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> frxstrem: I use fatrat on my fileserver :)
[11:10] <frxstrem> JimXL, HackNewton, ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll check those out :)
[11:10] <stercor_> szal: Too easy ;-)
[11:11] <JimXL> mien; OK
[11:11] <mien> Esc didnt work either
[11:11] <mien> i think ima try to boot whith a live cd and reinstall grub to mbr
[11:11] <mien> thanks for the help guys.
[11:12] <JimXL> mien, sounds like a plan.  Good luck.
[11:12] <daurnimator> my new pc was an optical out; but it doesn't seem to support 5.1 (DTS) in ubuntu
[11:12] <daurnimator> (sorry, audio related)
[11:12] <JimXL> mien and fsck the  partitions while you have the live cd booted
[11:13] <HackNewton> daurnimator, are you tried changing default audio setting ?
[11:13] <HackNewton> daurnimator, if yes go for additional driver installtion
[11:13] <daurnimator> HackNewton: yeah, theres analogue 5.1 abd digital stereo.
[11:13] <dr_willis> I recall a live cd/menu on Ubuntu?  once that had a reinstall grub option.  anyone else recall ever seeing This?
[11:13] <daurnimator> no digital 5.1 :(
[11:13] <daurnimator> HackNewton: any idea what drivers are needed
[11:13] <daurnimator> i also don't mind if its 5.1 over hdmi I get
[11:14] <JimXL> dr_willis that would be nice.  Haven't seen it though
[11:15] <HackNewton> daurnimator, well there is no all in one solution for your driver you have to see which is your h/w vender. There is utitilites in USC which can help you to install Third party drivers
[11:16] <dr_willis> JimXL:  i aware I saw it on a Ubuntu cd once..  I only use Ubuntu,  unless it was some variant.
[11:17] <HackNewton> guys is there any way to enable rpm packages in ubuntu ? (i know it sound stupid :} )
[11:17] <Slart> !alien | HackNewton
[11:17] <dr_willis> ! alien
[11:17] <stercor_> Can/Will someone kick stercor?  I can't logon with that nick because it's already in use.
[11:17] <szal> HackNewton: what for?
[11:18] <ikonia> stercor_: ask in #freenode
[11:18] <dr_willis> hmm a space keeps getting adds after I do a!
[11:18] <HackNewton> stercor_, you should have register your nick
[11:18] <szal> stercor_: close the other Irssi instance ;)
[11:18] <wols> HackNewton generally you only want to convert the rpm to tgz via alien and install it. never convert it to a .deb unless you want to break your ubuntu
[11:18] <stercor_> HackNewton: stercor is registered.
[11:18] <HackNewton> szal, there is no such
[11:18] <stercor_> szal: There is only one Irssi instance.
[11:19] <stercor_> ikonia: Will do.
[11:19] <wols> stercor_: /msg nickserv help   see "ghost" for example
[11:19] <szal> stercor_: there has to be another if it responds to CTCP queries
[11:19] <ikonia> stercor_: ask in #freenode for help
[11:19] <HackNewton> wols, thanks i am crystal clear now :D
[11:19] <szal> stercor_: ps aux | grep irssi
[11:19] <HackNewton> stercor_, if its yours then just login in it
[11:19] <szal> stercor_: if you get more than 1 PID for irssi, you do have another running
[11:21] <szal> HackNewton: there is no such what?
[11:22] <vdemedes> Hello!
[11:22] <coz_> hey
[11:22] <vdemedes> My Ubuntu 10.10 became read-only unexpectedly, how to fix it?
[11:22] <HackNewton> szal, i mean there is no such special thing to do
[11:22] <vdemedes> I tried to reboot, but it does not boot
[11:22] <vdemedes> just hangs in initramfs
[11:22] <HackNewton> szal, just want to know possibility
[11:23] <vdemedes> I get console and every line begins with "initramfs>"
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> vdemedes: try booting to liveCD and fsck-ing your partitions
[11:23] <wols> vdemedes: by running fsck on your / filesystem
[11:23] <vdemedes> what should I run exactly?
[11:23] <szal> HackNewton: even thinking of that usually implies a (potential) use case ;)
[11:23] <vdemedes> fsck with what options?
[11:23] <vdemedes> parameters
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> vdemedes: man fsck    is a good start
[11:24] <coz_> vdemedes,  when that initramfs shows up,, did you try typing  "exit"  after about 5 seconds to see if it boots to the desktop?
[11:24] <HackNewton> szal, :)
[11:24] <vdemedes> coz_: nope
[11:24] <vdemedes> between, if I installed Windows 7 after Ubuntu(still exists) and I want GRUB menu to appear on startup. I should boot into LiveCD and run "sudo update-grub"?
[11:25] <szal> vdemedes: usually 'fsck /dev/insertDeviceNodeHere' will do & it'll autodetect the filesystem; if it doesn't, however, you might want to invoke the specific filesystem checker, e.g. 'e2fsck' for ext2/3/4 partitions
[11:25] <coz_> vdemedes,  the only reason I ask , is that on my system,, with scsi drives,, it does the exact thing,,   I have to type exit then ajust rootdelay in grub
[11:25] <HackNewton> vdemedes, it will not work
[11:25] <vdemedes> HackNewton: why? what should I do?
[11:26] <wols> !tell vdemedes about fixmbr
[11:26] <vdemedes> If I want to make Ubuntu and Windows accessible from GRUB menu
[11:26] <HackNewton> vdemedes, because Windows dont like Linux too much so it does not let you to install grub
[11:26] <daurnimator> HackNewton: sorry, not finding anything; what data would help you help me?
[11:26] <ikonia> HackNewton: that is nonsense
[11:27] <HackNewton> ikonia, its true , if not you give reason why big company like MS does not let grub install ?
[11:27] <ikonia> HackNewton: Microsoft does not stop grub from being installed
[11:27] <coz_> ^^
[11:27] <vdemedes> wols: thanks!
[11:28] <vdemedes> thanks everyone!
[11:28] <HackNewton> ikonia, well let it be its long debate
[11:28] <ikonia> HackNewton: no it will not.
[11:28] <kodez> vdemedes: how did you install your OS?
[11:30] <dr_willis> os-prober tool has issues finding the windows installs at times it seems
[11:30] <vdemedes> kodez: Windows or Ubuntu?
[11:30] <daurnimator> anyone able to help with my digital audio problem?
[11:30] <kodez> vdemedes: both. which one did you install first?
[11:30] <coz_> daurnimator,  I think that may depend on the issue itself,,, what is going on?
[11:31] <daurnimator> coz_: i can't get 5.1 out over HDMI or optical. (steero works)
[11:31] <vdemedes> kodez: Ubuntu(usual install), divided HDD into partitions(one for Ubuntu & swap, one for Windows), installed Windows 7
[11:31] <vdemedes> kodez: that's all
[11:31] <dr_willis> there are bios-anti-virus setting that can block mbr apps
[11:31] <coz_> daurnimator,  ah ok,, have you checked in either or both  #alsa and #pulseaudio channels?
[11:32] <vdemedes> between, I forgot to mention, that filesystem became read-only and no free space
[11:32] <daurnimator> coz_: nope; doubt #alsa would help
[11:32] <coz_> vdemedes,  oooo
[11:32] <coz_> daurnimator,  well they probably can however,, dont hesitate to ask in #pulseaudio,, i would think they have more resources to work with
[11:33] <daurnimator> coz_: i've idled in #alsa for a year or so; its mainly about how to code with alsa libraries ;)
[11:33] <coz_> daurnimator,  understood
[11:33] <vdemedes> ok I'm gone
[11:33] <kodez> vdemedes: please install windows first and ubuntu last. this is because windows doesn't recognise any file format except ntfs or fat
[11:33] <coz_> read only and  full disk?/
[11:34] <dr_willis> hard disk failure detection. can make them remount read only
[11:34] <coz_> dr_willis,  for sure,, as well as high temps
[11:34] <tiresias> hello all
[11:35] <tiresias> trying to install a canon printer:    http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/plain-99702
[11:35] <Guest6135> this dual boot issue has been discussed here before. track the page http://ubuntu.searchonirc.com/?d=2011-07-13-13
[11:35] <tiresias> the libcupsys2 package is needed so i downolad it and then:   http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/plain-99703
[11:35] <tiresias> any idea?
[11:35] <g4> how can I list currently installed packages from command line. dpkg -l seems to also list formerly installed packages
[11:36] <dr_willis> !info libcupssys2
[11:36] <ikonia> g4: no, it lists current packages
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> vDubG__Gone: also only install Windows to a portion onf the space rather than 100% which is default
[11:36] <jrib> g4: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[11:36] <tiresias> ubottu, i now, i downloaded the .deb
[11:36] <dr_willis> !info libcupsys2
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> vDubG__Gone: wrong target, sorry
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> !find cupsys
[11:36] <g4> jrib: thanks!
[11:37] <jrib> g4: if you have aptitude, you can also do: aptitude search '~i'
[11:37] <dr_willis> hmm. windwe why a cups lib would not ne included. unless its version specific
[11:37] <g4> jrib: ok, thanks again!
[11:38] <dr_willis> ive learned to not buy canon printers for linux machines. ;)
[11:38] <Phylock> dr_willis - buy a brother, they have support
[11:38] <coz_> that should be an ongoing "motto" for linux  dont buy cannon
[11:39] <SwedeMike> you learn always to check support before buying.
[11:39] <dr_willis> thats what i got now.
[11:39] <tiresias> dr_willis, sure but it's my parents printer ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> coz_: or kodak
[11:39] <coz_> HP  epson  are good
[11:39] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  for sure
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> coz_: canon is getting better, as are lexmark
[11:39] <miber45> hello
[11:39] <dr_willis> tiresias:  that lib seems to be in the repos.
[11:39] <SwedeMike> I have a nice story about my oki laserprinster, which had support in windows up to xp, then they stopped developing drivers, so around I stopped running XP on any machine at home and switched to win7, now all of a sudden ubuntu had gained support for it. that was nice.
[11:39] <coz_> tiresias,  try sudo apt-get install -f  to see if it fixes any of this
[11:40] <tiresias> dr_willis, the name changed to libcups2 so maybe is it possible to fix by creating a link?
[11:40] <dr_willis> unless its some weirdly specicic lib for just that driver
[11:40] <szal> ActionParsnip: really?  Lexmark used to be an absolute no-go on Linux
[11:40] <tiresias> coz_, ok i try
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> szal: yeah they seem to be getting better, still not 64bit though
[11:40] <jrib> my old canon worked perfectly, just plugged it in and ubuntu detected it automatically and set it up.  It's probably best to check linuxprinting.org on a specific model
[11:40] <szal> tiresias: what model exactly?
[11:40] <dr_willis> tiresias:  that implies the code using the old lib name is well.. old. that guide may be outdated
[11:40]  * ActionParsnip sticks to HP
[11:40]  * szal too
[11:41]  * coz_ likes epson
[11:41] <tiresias> szad, mp210
[11:41] <[diablo]> Hi... I have two proxies ...one which is our corporate http proxy, plus I have a local socks proxy running. I would like to make totem use the socks proxy, but I can not see any options to do this.. anyone know how please?
[11:41]  * HackNewton too likes HP
[11:44] <cores> i have a question
[11:44] <andrewh192> ok
[11:44] <andrewh192> we are listening
[11:45] <cores> is there anyway to modify the installatoin disc to deploy a custom /etc/skel directory
[11:45] <coz_> cores,  you could use remastersys to creat your own revision I believe
[11:45] <mien> Easiest way to install grub to mbr with a live cd? Is it to mount my old system to some dir and make a chroot or is there any smart utiliy?
[11:45] <coz_> create
[11:46] <dr_willis> mien:  with the right grub command you dont need to chroot
[11:46] <dr_willis> !ficgrub
[11:46] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[11:46] <szal> tiresias: http://www.canon-europe.com/Support/System/Search.aspx?TcmUri=tcm:13-738151&SearchType=3 (32bit only; there's a way to install on 64bit though that I don't recall off my head)
[11:48] <cores> i want to know how ot do it mnanually
[11:48] <shomon> how do you find out what character set a file has?
[11:48] <Phylock> Any new fixes for laggy windows when draging with mouse? I have tried both disable vsync and mouse polling interval. I use ubuntu 11.04 64bit, ubuntu classic+compiz, nvidia driver version 275.19
[11:49] <tiresias> szal, same problem with this one ... :/
[11:49] <mien> dr_willis. Thx
[11:50] <coz_> Phylock,  out of curiosity,, is this a clean install ofubuntu  or an upgraded system?
[11:50] <Phylock> coz_ - clean
[11:50] <woky> Hello. I'm trying to use VirtualBox in latest Ubuntu. There is currently no vboxdrv driver. There is no /etc/init.d/vboxdrv. virtualbox-ose-dkms in linux-headers-generic are installed. Where's the problem please?
[11:51] <codehotter> hello. How do I create a virtual interface on ubuntu? (I do not want to add an ip alias to eth0, I need a seperate virtual interface)
[11:51] <iceroot> !upstart | woky
[11:51] <coz_> Phylock,  I have noticed this occurs with compiz git,, video memory gets filled and things begin to lag big time at leas on a dual monitor system,, blaming the nvidia driver mainly,,, let me check hold on
[11:52] <dr_willis> woky:  how did you install vbox?
[11:52] <coz_> Phylock,  one thing is to open ccsm and check which refresh rate has been assigned
[11:52] <woky> So I did 'start vboxdrv' and it says it's unknown job
[11:52] <Phylock> coz_ - it is a dualmonitor setup, can i install an older version of compiz?
[11:53] <woky> dr_willis: apt-get install virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-dkms
[11:53] <dr_willis> Phylock:  ive seen guides on downgradeing compiz
[11:53] <shadyzgeek> hey who is ready naw
[11:53] <coz_> Phylock,   well, not sure that is going to help,,  I would check refresh rate under general options  ,, untick  "Detect refresh rate"  which will enable the refresh rate slider  and play with that,, another thing,, is to open ccsm / prreferences and reset to defaults
[11:54] <coz_> Python132o,   or   in terminal   compiz --replace & disown
[11:54] <shadyzgeek> hello
[11:54] <shadyzgeek> Gud morning
[11:54] <woky> only files with name 'vboxdrv' are in /usr/src and /var/lib/dkms
[11:54] <ThinkT510> shadyzgeek: need help?
[11:54] <coz_> Phylock,  are you using a lazer mouse by chance?
[11:55] <Phylock> coz_ - yep
[11:55] <woky> iceroot: <flame>copared to systemd, upstart sucks</flame> :P
[11:55] <coz_> Phylock,  ah I am reading some issues with lazer mouse being the cause of the issue
[11:55] <szal> woky: systemd doesn't look like being ready for prime time just yet -- just read the opensuse-factory mailing list ;)
[11:56] <coz_> Phylock, let me link you to the bug report   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/764330  scroll down to Phhil Doroff  post
[11:56] <woky> szal: I'm using it in my home PC, no problems so far
[11:56] <coz_> Phylock,   I would read through all the posts  there as well
[11:57] <Phylock> coz_ - ill do thanks
[11:57] <Deesl> need some help in here...
[11:58] <Deesl> tryng to install Ubuntu 11.04 on a Lenovo B560 laptop. The wifi does not work, tells me that its disabled by a hardware switch.. Although the switch is actually on and the bluetooth is being detected. I have already removed acer_wmi module. Unable to figure out further.
[11:58] <Deesl> please help
[11:59] <woky> So I did 'dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-ose-dkms' and vboxdrv suddenly appeared ...
[11:59] <codehotter> I solved my problem by installing 'tunctl' from the uml-utilities package, created a tap device, which does what I need.
[12:00] <mien> Deesl, have you checked if there is some on/off in bios?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: if you run:  sudo rfkill unblock all     does it work
[12:02] <Deesl> mien: its on.. I have done that
[12:03] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: I have tried rfkill but as per the manpage rfkill does not work on hard blocks
[12:03] <Deesl> my network interface is hard blocked
[12:04] <shadyzgeek> is it true that wireless card does not work in virtualbox
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a     Thanks
[12:04] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: hang on
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> shadyzgeek: its seen as a wired NIC in virtualbox, it will work
[12:04] <ParkerR> shadyzgeek, the wireless card is not what is used in virtualbox
[12:05] <ParkerR> shadeslayer, it makes a virtual network adpater that bridges with the physical one you have installed
[12:05] <aetas> mornin
[12:05] <ParkerR> aetas, morning
[12:06] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: lsb_release says no LSB modules
[12:06] <shadyzgeek> o.k  so Action u mean it always works
[12:06] <ParkerR> shadeslayer, yes
[12:06] <Deesl> and lshw says the network is disabled
[12:06] <Deesl> its a broadcom 4313 BTW
[12:06] <Deesl> and the STA module is installed
[12:07] <shadyzgeek> shadeslayer it bridge the Lan but not the wirelwss
[12:07] <ParkerR> shadeslayer, it will bridge to whatever the active network connector is on your computer
[12:07] <Deesl> rfkill says brcmwl-0 is hard blocked and ifconfig -a DOES show the eth1 interface
[12:07] <ParkerR> *connection
[12:08] <szal> ParkerR: nick tab fail :P
[12:08] <ParkerR> Yep XD
[12:08] <ParkerR> * shadyzgeek
[12:08] <mman> hi, i have a script that i want to make start at startup. The problem is, i need to add arguments to this script. For example: ./script.sh start   how can i make that command run at startup?
[12:09] <wols> !tell mman about rc.local
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: ok then:   cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:09] <ParkerR> mman, startup applications
[12:09] <ParkerR> System > top menu > startup applications
[12:09] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: its natty 11.04
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> mman: is it for after your user logs in?
[12:09] <ParkerR> Don't remember the name of the top menu on that
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Deesl
[12:10] <mman> its for the ubuntu server and it has to be as root
[12:10] <shadyzgeek> tried but failed ParkerR
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> mman: add it as a line in /etc/rc.local
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> mman: add it above the exit 0 line, you can add any command you like and it will run as root
[12:11] <ParkerR> shadyzgeek, what? Installing virtualbox?
[12:11] <shadyzgeek> no a shadeslayer
[12:11] <mman> ActionParsnip, /root/tomcat5.5/bin/catalina.sh start   as easy as that?
[12:11] <shadyzgeek> on a virtualbox
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> mman: that's fine, just add an ampersand at the end or the boot will hang
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> mman: /root/tomcat5.5/bin/catalina.sh start &
[12:12] <ThinkT510> shadyzgeek: what are you trying to do on virtualbox?
[12:12] <szal> shadyzgeek: lol, shadeslayer is a nick in here ;)
[12:12] <mman> ActionParsnip, that line was already there and nothign happened:P but ill add it
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> mman: storing applications in root's home isn't terribly organised
[12:12] <shadyzgeek> hahaha
[12:12] <shadyzgeek> den think i was misinformed
[12:12] <shadyzgeek> lol
[12:13] <shadyzgeek> thanh  slaz
[12:13] <woky> I'm trying to install Oracle10gXE but I ran in strange dependency error. Here are the details: http://pastebin.com/tCZCC91i
[12:13] <woky> dpkg thinks  2.13-0ubuntu13 is less than 2.32
[12:13] <woky> dpkg thinks  2.13-0ubuntu13 is less than 2.3.2
[12:13] <mman> ActionParsnip, its just a script that runs an app in other location
[12:14] <ParkerR> woky, that cannot be fixed easily
[12:14] <Michele> what?
[12:14] <mman> ActionParsnip, nop, it still doesnt run
[12:14] <woky> ParkerR: why? why --force-* doesnt work?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> mman: was it above the exit 0 line?
[12:14] <ParkerR> woky, because tons of packages depend on libc6 so updating it breaks everyting else
[12:15] <ParkerR> And you have an unusable system
[12:15] <mman> ActionParsnip, yes.  MAYBE it has to run after the boot
[12:15] <wernerdev> Hey everyone.
[12:15] <woky> ParkerR: but the version in Ubuntu is 2.13-0ubuntu13 which is cleary higher than 2.3.2 isn't it ?
[12:15] <woky> even --force-all doesn't work :/
[12:15] <wernerdev> I hope someone can give me some quick help with Netatalk 2.2
[12:15] <ParkerR> 2.3.2 > 3.13 afaik
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> mman: yes, the script is called at boot time
[12:16] <mman> ActionParsnip, actually that is the only line i have above the exit 0
[12:16] <dr_willis> some apps may require specific versions od libs. ;(
[12:16] <ParkerR> *2.13
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> mman: except the usual comments ;)
[12:16] <woky> ParkerR: I don't think so
[12:16] <woky> lemme check
[12:16] <wernerdev> Anyone running Netatalk 2.2 beta?
[12:16] <mman> ActionParsnip, yup except the usual commens
[12:16] <MysteriousMan> Question: hi any one know gtkmm here?
[12:17] <dr_willis> mman: what does the script do? pastebin your rc.local
[12:17] <wols> wernerdev, MysteriousMan: ask your real questions
[12:17] <boy_not_heart> khanh2416
[12:17] <boy_not_heart> ngockhanh
[12:17] <wernerdev> Thanks to OS X Lion I had to update to Netatalk 2.2 for TimeMachine to work again.
[12:17] <mman> dr_willis, it starts tomcat
[12:17] <woky> Even if it was higher than current version, why --force-all don't force it ?
[12:18] <wernerdev> Update went fine except for that it's slow upon first connection...
[12:18] <ikonia> wernerdev: this channels for ubuntu support, we don't support netatalk or mac os here
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> wernerdev: that's Apple for you
[12:18] <wernerdev> Well my thought was: Netatalk runs on Ubuntu
[12:18] <wernerdev> So maybe there is something known about 2.2 beta 4
[12:19] <dr_willis> mman:  it could be its getting ran befor networking is fully up. try a 'sleep 30' above the command in rc.local - no & at the end. to make it wait 30 sec
[12:19] <mman> dr_willis, http://pastebin.com/Gx8m6VqJ
[12:19] <wernerdev> But I will look somewhere else then...
[12:19] <ikonia> wernerdev: it does, but you're not using it on ubuntu , so use the net talk support resources or the apple ones
[12:19] <wols> wernerdev: if there is, check the bugtracker
[12:19] <wernerdev> Ok
[12:20] <wols> ikonia: you sure he isn't running his netatalk on ubuntu?
[12:20] <ParkerR> wols, no he said on Mac OS X
[12:20] <ikonia> wols: he said he was running it on mac and thanks to lion had to upgrade, that gave me a bit of a clue
[12:20] <ikonia> :)
[12:20] <wols> netatalk doesn't run on OSX
[12:20] <mman> dr_willis, nop, still doesnt work
[12:21] <wernerdev> No people, I am running Netatalk on Ubuntu Server :)
[12:21] <wernerdev> I'm not that stupid :P
[12:21] <ikonia> ???
[12:21] <wols> ikonia: do you know what netatalk is? it lets linux talk to OSX machines. mainly used for time machine. e.g. that OSX time machine can backup onto some ubuntu harddisk storage for example
[12:21] <wernerdev> Using it on my Ubuntu NAS server.
[12:22] <dr_willis> mman:   could be it needs to be ran with different enviroment/path settings, or some other quirk.  cd to the dir where the script is at then run it perhaps.
[12:22] <ikonia> wols: yeah, it was just the wording
[12:22] <ikonia> wernerdev: my apologies if I missunderstood
[12:22] <wernerdev> No problem
[12:22] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: I reinstalled the STA driver
[12:22] <szal> Miss Understood? ;)
[12:22] <mman> dr_willis, still on the rc.local?
[12:22] <Deesl> but it still tells me that the interface is disabled by a hardware switch
[12:23] <MysteriousMan> how to change the size and the color of label ??
[12:23] <wols> wernerdev: but as you can see, hard to get help for it here. some OSX channel or better yet, netatalk support place is probably best. too specialized a questinn. you could also check the ubuntu bug DB
[12:23] <dr_willis> mman: yes.  or make it run some other script that does the cd, then sleep thenruns the command.. perhaps log the errors to a file also
[12:23] <wols> !tell Deesl about rfkill
[12:23] <fulc> hi, i would like to install xen 4 on ubuntu but i do not see it in any repository
[12:23] <Plotcitizen__> Wasup wesside, I iz ere wiv none oder than my main men!
[12:23] <Plotcitizen__> Ubuntu help!
[12:24] <kirilos> hello i need some help setting up /etc/fstab for a ntfs partition.i used rw and umask=000 options and i still cant run a .sh file.thans
[12:24] <Plotcitizen__> So tell me, how many windows features are in Ubuntu?
[12:24] <ikonia> Plotcitizen__: please try to talk in English
[12:24] <wols> Deesl: use rfkill
[12:24] <wernerdev> wold: Thanks, I had a quick search but there is no Netatalk channel as far as I know. But thanks. I'll look somewhere else indeed.
[12:24]  * szal smells a troll
[12:24] <wols> Plotcitizen__: you want to stop and behave right now. do you have a ubuntu related support question? a real one?
[12:24] <Deesl> wols: rfkill does not work with hard blocks
[12:25] <Deesl> and szal in case you think this is a troll, I can post screenshots
[12:25] <Plotcitizen__> No, I'm here for an interview.
[12:25] <Deesl> oops
[12:25] <szal> Deesl: I'm not talking about you
[12:25]  * Deesl apologizes
[12:25] <ikonia> Plotcitizen__: this channel is for ubuntu support, if that's not something you need please don't take the channel offtopic
[12:25] <ThinkT510> !find xen | fulc
[12:26] <Deesl> I am wondering if this is actually a damaged hardware...
[12:26] <MysteriousMan> Question : how to change the size and the color of gtkmm label ??
[12:26] <ThinkT510> fulc: if xen 4 isn't there, there might be a ppa of it somewhere
[12:26] <fulc> it's not there :)
[12:27] <fulc> i'll try looking for a ppa then
[12:27] <fulc> thanks
[12:27] <ThinkT510> np
[12:27] <Deesl> but its hard to believe since its just a rfkill switch... :-S
[12:27] <Deesl> WTF :(
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: do you dual boot?
[12:27] <Lasers> Deesl: I don't think it's a damaged hardware. I think it's just frustration dealing with rfkill / software switch / hardware switch. I went through one myself.
[12:27] <mman> dr_willis, didnt work with cd. mmm let me show you what the script does: http://pastebin.com/MxSrVt4t
[12:28] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: no I dont
[12:28] <dr_willis> mman:  a neat trick i use is to run apps on their own console  so i can see error and logs    see   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/openvt.1.html
[12:28] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: this laptop came with freedos... and I decided to put on Ubuntu
[12:29] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: the only hardware kill switch is the once I can see at the front.. and it controls both WIFI and Bluetooth and since the bluetooth is being detected, the switch is definitely in "ON" state
[12:30] <dr_willis> mman:  i wonder if theres not some env variables not.set when ran from rc.local
[12:30] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: brcmwl-0 still reports as Hard blocked
[12:30] <mman> dr_willis, thats what i also though. Maybe it has to run AFTER boot
[12:31] <AdamT_> Good morning.  I need some help with my web server (samba).  I entered a new web address into httpd.conf and set the port and everything, but I can't get it to show up in teh browser... any ideas?  Is there somewhere else I need to enter information?
[12:31] <wols> AdamT_: something is not right. samba is not a webserver for starters
[12:31] <Deesl> AdamT_: webserver != samba AFAIK
[12:31] <wols> and httpd.conf is pretty much empty last I checked
[12:32] <wols> AdamT_: grep -r -i listen /etc/apache2/
[12:32] <dr_willis> mman:  rc.local is the last service to start.  so with the sleep it is the last... but  rynning from rc.local may  have differedt path and other settings then the users bash shell does
[12:32] <wonderworld> hi i am looking for a tool that can resize batches of images graphically (frontend for imagemagick or something like that)
[12:32] <AdamT_> Yeah, I'm not real sure what I am doing... the person before me set this all up.
[12:33] <Deesl> AdamT_: what is that you are trying to achieve?
[12:33] <MysteriousMan> Question : how to change the size and the color of gtkmm label ??
[12:33] <kitche> wonderworld: why not just use imagemagick considering that it is a gui program also
[12:33] <mman> dr_willis, yup, as you said!! this is what the log says: Neither the JAVA_HOME nor the JRE_HOME environment variable is defined
[12:33] <mman> At least one of these environment variable is needed to run this program
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: is this a loaptop? If so what model?
[12:34] <AdamT_> our domain has different sites put up like, it.domain.com, mail.domain.com etc... and I want to add another instance for a new ticketing system I am implementing.
[12:34] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: this is Lenovo B560
[12:34] <wonderworld> kitche: is it, whats the name of the imagemagick gui?
[12:34] <wols> AdamT_: then you did it totally wrong. run the command I showed you above
[12:34] <AdamT_> ok one second
[12:34] <dr_willis> mman:  export them in rc.local i guess.  or source whatever sets them first
[12:35] <AdamT_> wols: i got port 80 and 443
[12:36] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:36] <wols> !tell AdamT_ about paste
[12:37] <AdamT_> I'm not real sure how to copy the text... its all terminal and virtual
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: sudo apt-get -y install linux-firmware fw-cutter
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: sorry b43-fwcutter
[12:38] <phper_> Hello. How do I upgrade my ubuntu? I have 8.04
[12:38] <ThinkT510> !upgrade | phper_
[12:39] <szal> !eol | phper_
[12:39] <[tla]> hi. failed natty upgrade. trying to install openssh-server and get "no instrallation candidate".  apt-get update runs ok.  ideas?
[12:39] <Phylock> coz_ - Thanks a lot, it solved my problem. Switched from "mouse" driver to "evdev" in xorg and no more lagging.
[12:39] <Deesl> okay.. but is b43 not supported on 4313?
[12:39] <bazhang> phper_, see the eolupgrades link
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: sure
[12:39] <coz_> Phylock,  excellent :)
[12:39] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: you still want me to install fwcutter?
[12:39] <wols> [tla]: apt-cache policy
[12:39] <AdamT_> wols: were you just wanting the ports?
[12:40] <daurnimator> still not having any luck with 5.1 dihgital audio output
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: no, install . trying to install openssh-server and get "no instrallation candidate".
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> ActionParsnip> Deesl: sorry b43-fwcutter
[12:40] <tristan3199us> can i add transparancy to the panel slide down menus??
[12:40] <[tla]> wols: ok, i can run that.  what am i looking for?
[12:41] <newb> im trying to use gparted to resize a partion, but I am getting an error msg
[12:41] <wols> [tla]: for the whole output
[12:41] <tristan3199us> im using natty narwhal
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> newb: is the partition mount which you are trying to resize?
[12:41] <ThinkT510> newb: are you resizing a partition you are currently using (mounted)
[12:41] <szal> newb: what error msg?
[12:42] <newb> The partition could not be unmounted from the following mount points:
[12:42] <szal> ActionParsnip, ThinkT510: don't guess & ask proper evidence before giving advice :)
[12:42] <faLUCE> hi, do you know if is there a text editor in which I can insert words in real time through a script ?
[12:43] <newb> It is not my main had drive
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> newb: i suggest you resize in the livecd, be sure the data you need is backed up in case of catastrophe
[12:43] <tristan3199us> im just looking to add a basic compiz setting i bet, i want my panels to have 40 percent transparancy... anybody able to help???
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> szal: true, but 9 times in 10 its the cause
[12:43] <iceroot> faLUCE: why not using "cat filename >> file-to-add"
[12:43] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: did you see my last message?
[12:43] <skrmm> I've added upstart job which starts executing my simple script for recording audio(arecord) in infinite loop, but first iteration of the loop gives me broken file. In boot loog I see this ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
[12:44] <newb> but how do i do it with gparted
[12:44] <[tla]> wols: all the output is pointing at natty releases but lsb_release -a reports maverick still.  is it because it thinks it is still running maverick so will not use the natty repos?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: I can't see it, sorry
[12:44] <AdamT_> wols: where should the config be for the web addresses if not in httpd.conf
[12:44] <faLUCE> iceroot: because I want some more complex scripting, like: insert at a specific linenumber, move cursor etc.
[12:44] <szal> newb: again, use a live CD
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> newb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[12:44] <[tla]> wols: i am on a serial console so can't paste apt-cache output
[12:44] <wols> AdamT_: /etc/apache2/sites-available/ normally. has NOTHING to do with an IP or Port at all. and man a2ensite to enable the site(s)
[12:45] <elzoog> I am having trouble installing the game Braid.   Can anyone help?
[12:45] <tristan3199us> newb.. what are you trying to accomplish.. a duel boot.. just a storage partition.. ?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> newb: same method, just in liveCD
[12:45] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: I asked, considering this is a BCM4313 which is not supported by b43, will b43-fw-cutter be of any use?
[12:45] <iceroot> faLUCE: vim, emacs, sed
[12:45] <kitche> wonderworld: sorry about that try display to see if that works
[12:45] <iceroot> faLUCE: all of them can do that
[12:45] <wols> [tla]: you need a natty main repository
[12:45] <dmdevotee> hi. i have ubuntu 11.04. i installed the package "startupmanager" to manage the boot of the installed OS, but the changes made are not applied. anybody haves a idea about what happens?
[12:45] <newb> I copied my hard drive to a bigger hard drive, now there is unallocated space hence I want to resize the new harddrive
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: seems to be supported by STA
[12:45] <phper_> I don't understand, how do I upgrade my 8.04 ubuntu, what command I run?
[12:46] <iceroot> !eol | phper_
[12:46] <wols> newb: boot from a LiveCD and resize from there
[12:46] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: yes it is...
[12:46] <iceroot> phper_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:46] <tristan3199us> dmdevotee: isnt startupmanager to let you choose what programs start in ubuntu??? thats not your grub..
[12:46] <tristan3199us> right
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source; sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl; sudo modprobe wl
[12:46] <Deesl> strangely, another B560 works perfectly...
[12:46] <Deesl> just this one
[12:46] <wols> phper_: you can upgrade to 10.04 I guess
[12:46] <newb> but I am now booting from my old hard drive so the new one is extra at the moment so it shoulddt be a problem
[12:46] <Pici> iceroot, phper_: 8.04 is still supported on the server, so update-manager and do-release-upgrade should work just fine to upgrade to 10.04.
[12:47] <wols> newb: then unmount it and do it
[12:47] <phper_> newbie why I can't upgrade to 11.04?
[12:47] <newb> how to unmount
[12:47] <tristan3199us> can anyone tell me how to add a transparency to my ubuntu 11.04 panels???
[12:47] <[tla]> wols: i have 4 * natty/main lines for amd64.  2 have the en_GB translation and the line starts with "500".  The other two start with "-10"
[12:47] <newb> in the termina;
[12:47] <dmdevotee> tristan3199us i don't understand what are you saying. i only know that in ubuntu 10.10 worked
[12:47] <iceroot> Pici: ah yes, they didnt move the 8.04 repo yet because of the server-edition. thanks for the hint
[12:47] <wols> phper_: cause you can't leave out in between versions. your 8.04 is a LTS so you can upgrade to 10.04 LTS and from there to 10.10 and from there then finally to 11.04
[12:47] <tristan3199us> i have natty narwhal..
[12:47] <tristan3199us> what ever number that is..
[12:47] <szal> phper_: because that's not supported as in 1 step; what is supported is 8.04 -> 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04, and in that case a reinstall is faster
[12:47] <tristan3199us> wols: ?
[12:48] <wols> tristan3199us: no I cannot. and natty is 11.04
[12:48] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: still nothing... it still says disabled by hardware switch
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> phper_: reinstall will give a cleaner OS too
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: is there a key shortcut to press and enable the device?
[12:48] <dmdevotee> tristan3199us i only want to windows start at first option. is there any software that works in ubuntu 11.04 to manage grub=?
[12:48] <phper_> newbie ok, I am new at upgrading, what is the command I need to input in my terminal to upgrade to 10.04?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: have you rebooted since installing the driver?
[12:48] <mang0> once I've sudo su 'd in terminal, how do I get out of root? (without shutting terminal)
[12:49] <Pici> mang0: exit or ctrl-d
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: you may want to blacklist b43 and ssb
[12:49] <mang0> Pici: ctrl-d did it tahnkyou
[12:49] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: yes there.. is and that is enabled as well... I believe the key shortcut is a software block and it is toggling correctly as reported by rfkill
[12:49] <wols> dmdevotee: edit /etc/default/grub. there you can select which one to start by default. after that, run update-grub
[12:49] <newb> how do i unmount
[12:49] <Nebz> Can/will someone help a noob manually nvidia drivers on 11.04 that I downloaded from nvidia's website? =/
[12:49] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: the laptop has been rebooted and b43 and ssb is not even loading
[12:49] <wols> newb: umount <mountpoint>
[12:49] <Nebz> *install
[12:50] <[tla]> wols: do those lines sound ok?
[12:50] <ThinkT510> Nebz: why aren't you using the nvidia driver in ubuntu?
[12:50] <szal> phper_: did you actually bother to read the webpage we've been giving you?
[12:50] <wols> tlyu: useless information since not enough given
[12:50] <Nebz> I am, but apt-get won't pull the latest
[12:50] <newb> how do i find the mountpoint
[12:50] <Nebz> Even after I added the nvidia repo
[12:50] <wols> newb: "mount"
[12:50] <dmdevotee> wols, is there any software to do this?
[12:50] <phper_> szal: I am trying, but I don't get it very well
[12:51] <wols> dmdevotee: yes. a text editor
[12:51] <Slart> Nebz: Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, sudo sh /whever/you/put/it/NVIDIAblablabla   clicketiclicketi.. reboot and you're done
[12:51] <dmdevotee> i mean any software like startupmanager
[12:51] <Nebz> thx Slart!!
[12:51] <Slart> Nebz: oh, you might want to uninstall the nvidia driver from the repos first
[12:51] <Nebz> Hmm, ok.
[12:52] <Nebz> From terminal I suppose?
[12:52] <salat> hey i have a 265ram pc. do i have to consider something or can i just plug some more ram in the ram free ram slots?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: that's cool, does dmesg give any clues?
[12:52] <wols> salat: ##hardware
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan   do you see access points?
[12:52] <[tla]> wols: i am on serial console.  what exactly do i need to tell you for it to be useful?
[12:52] <wols> salat: ubuntu has no problem if there is suddenly more RAM than before
[12:53] <wols> tlyu: if you are using the default main repo of ubuntu. that's where openssh-server is in
[12:53] <wols> [tla]: ^^
[12:53] <vikapi> is there a way tat we can forcefully logout a user in gdm/kdm @a particular time of the day??
[12:53] <wols> vikapi: cronjob
[12:54] <dmdevotee> in that file appears: GRUB_DEFAULT=6, but in fact, the first option is selected when i reboot
[12:54] <vikapi> wols: can u explain??wats the command in cronjob for gdm/kdm?
[12:54] <mman> dr_willis, just added the variable to the rc.local but still doesnt work. Still same problems here is my new rc.locale  http://pastebin.com/76Sxp3H6
[12:54] <[tla]> wols: i have"http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty/main amd64 Packages"
[12:54] <wols> [tla]: and apt-get update works for it?
[12:55] <wols> mman: rc.locale is wrong
[12:55] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi i run ubuntu 10.10 plugged my 32gb usb pendrive in and it won't mount it giving an output error about superblocks, that's the dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu.com/649943/ plz help i have important work files on it, thanks
[12:55] <[tla]> wols: yes but get "no apt-get update
[12:55] <Nebz> Slart should I disassociate the nvidia repo or just uninstall the current driver?
[12:55] <jschoolcraft> can you specify the user to run a process as in an upstart configuration?
[12:55] <wols> [tla]: hub? that's gibberish
[12:55] <Punna> does turbo boost work under ubuntu?
[12:55] <mman> wols, sorry typo but its rc.local
[12:55] <wols> Punna: it's hardware, so yes it works
[12:55] <jrib> dmdevotee: are you sure you've run "update-grub"?
[12:56] <wols> dmdevotee: and run it with sudo?
[12:56] <wols> Nebz: both
[12:56] <faLUCE> iceroot: do you mean that I can open a document with vim and send commands to the editor instance?
[12:56] <dmdevotee> wols: yes
[12:56] <AdamT_> wols: When I use a2ensite i have the options of default and default-ssl.  Default is already enabled
[12:56] <jrib> dmdevotee: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:57] <[tla]> wols: sorry, wrong keyboard.  yes, update runs with no errors.  upgrade says 15 packages are kept back - one of them is update-manager-core
[12:57] <vikapi> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: does it have data in it??
[12:57] <szal> slacker_nl: ping
[12:57] <newb> on my hard drive there is dev/sdb1 & dev/sdb2 how do i combine them, this is an external hard drive
[12:57] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> vikapi: like i said i do have important work data on it
[12:58] <ThinkT510> newb: you don't, they are two seperate partitions
[12:58] <Joupi> newb, delete sdb2 and extend sdb1 but save data first. Gparted will do
[12:58] <ger> how can i backup files in ubuntu?
[12:58] <phper_> I get this: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ar.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hardy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[12:58] <ThinkT510> newb: you could copy the contents over and delete the empty one then resize the other
[12:58] <ger> and how can i use l dap
[12:58] <ger> ldap mean
[12:58] <xendras> my package manager is behaving abnormally http://pastebin.com/nRuDFDDF   My /etc/apt/sources.list file is pasted here http://pastebin.com/kbKBW2KC
[12:59] <xendras> please help me out
[12:59] <Guest76605> sudoers what is ommand?
[12:59] <szal> phper_: did you add the old-releases sources to your sources.list?
[12:59] <jrib> xendras: run « sudo apt-get update »
[12:59] <newb> there is a key sign on the gparted by sdb1, hence it is locked not sure how to change this
[13:00] <jvgeli> xendras: what is this line deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu natty main1?
[13:00] <phper_> szal: I don't know how to do that
[13:00] <wols> AdamT_: < AdamT_> wols: where should the config be for the web addresses if not in httpd.conf < wols> AdamT_: /etc/apache2/sites-available/ normally.
[13:00] <iceroot> faLUCE: you can send directly something into the document with sed
[13:00] <jvgeli> xendras: why does it have a 1 in the end?
[13:00] <szal> phper_: it's described in the page
[13:00] <wols> AdamT_: it's there you add the site and only if added, THEN you can run a2ensite
[13:00] <faLUCE> iceroot: I need to move cursor too
[13:00] <Nebz> Wols: thx
[13:00] <phper_> szal: so the error can be handled then?
[13:01] <iceroot> faLUCE: have a look at #vim or #emacs
[13:01] <szal> phper_: most probably yes
[13:01] <phper_> okthanks
[13:01] <wols> AdamT_: and apache2 does not care at all about a "new IP". it listens by default on all interfaces
[13:01] <faLUCE> iceroot: too much complicate . I would prefer some editor gui friendly, like gedit or kate
[13:02] <dmdevotee> somebody knows an alternative to the package "startupmanager" that works in ubuntu 11.04? thanks
[13:02] <iceroot> faLUCE: emacs has a gui
[13:02] <iceroot> faLUCE: gvim also
[13:02] <AdamT_> wols: ok in sites available I have default and default-ssl, in a sites enabled folder I have 000-default.  will seeing the code shed light at all?
[13:02] <jrib> dmdevotee: if you don't answer question and provide info when asked for it, we can't help you.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> xendras: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/cmake-curses-gui   it's in the universe repo
[13:02] <spyvingen1> have some problem im all new to ubuntu. The first thing is that i cant get my second display to be rotated. And the other thing is when i first started ubunto i got like a start menu with evering opon and after restart i only come to a serchbox and shortcut menu when pressing the ubuntu bottun i want it like a start menu can i change that?
[13:02] <wols> AdamT_: no. I told you you need to add the config file for the new site apache needs to serve pages for
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: is it for a graphical desktop?
[13:03] <dmdevotee> jrib but i don't want to edit files, i want a software to do it easily
[13:03] <dmdevotee> actionparsnip it is ubuntu 11.04 desktop
[13:03] <wols> dmdevotee: then you either write it yourself or you pay someone to do so
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: all that app does is make normal .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: works in ANY DE
[13:04] <jrib> dmdevotee: I see. I don't know of such a program.  But /etc/default/grub provides an option per line; I don't really see how a gui could make it any simpler
[13:04] <wols> ActionParsnip: he's talking about grub default selection (so far), nothing about autostart. he must be confused
[13:04] <spyvingen1> actionpasnip was thet ment for me?
[13:04] <jvgeli> I am using mavericks default kernel 2.6.35 but i am using and AMD Fusion APU. I've read that fusion only has support on the .38 kernel version. Am I missing alot? or should I upgrade even if kernel .38 is giving me issues?
[13:04] <AdamT_> wols: I think this is set up differently then you are thinking.  there are not config files in sites-available
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: what do you want to edit?
[13:05] <bazhang> jvgeli, thought you were using natty with oneiric kernel
[13:05] <dmdevotee> actionparsnip windows 7 to be loaded first instead of ubuntu
[13:05] <wols> AdamT_: there are two files in there default and default-ssl, right?
[13:05] <oCean> AdamT_: there should be. That is the directory for the definition of your vhosts
[13:05] <AdamT_> Yes
[13:05] <wols> AdamT_: maybe you should start again and tell us exactly what you need to do
[13:05] <mman> how to export environmental variables?
[13:05] <wols> mman: export to where/what?
[13:05] <wols> mman: env > file.vars  for example
[13:05] <jvgeli> bazhang: had to remove it. Too many issues. very very unstable.
[13:05] <alazare619> im on xubuntu and im trying to share some folders over smb but im missing shared folders under applications system any ideas?
[13:06] <faLUCE> iceroot:  I know, but they are not user friendly
[13:06] <mman> wols, no, i wan to use them in rc.local
[13:06] <bazhang> jvgeli, then upgrade to natty if you want that kernel
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: cd /etc/grub.d; sudo cp 30_os-prober 30_os-prober_backup; sudo update-grub
[13:07] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> hi i run ubuntu 10.10 plugged my 32gb usb pendrive in and it won't mount it giving an output error about superblocks, that's the dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu.com/649943/ plz help i have important work files on it, thanks
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> not that
[13:07] <wols> mman: and I want a pink pony
[13:07] <AdamT_> I took over this position about 2 months ago.  Someone set up our webhost server and I am trying to learn/change some things about it.  Right now we are hosting several sites from this server and I want to add another site.  We have sites like it.domain.com, wiki.domain.com etc... and I want to add a new one called support.domain.com
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: cd /etc/grub.d; sudo mv 30_os-prober 08_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[13:07] <xendras> jrib: ActionParsnip: thank you ..It worked !!
[13:07] <wols> mman: any variable you want to use there you have to set yourself first basically
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> dmdevotee: that'll do it :)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> xendras: wtg
[13:07] <alazare619> im on xubuntu and im trying to share some folders over smb but im missing shared folders under applications system any ideas?
[13:07] <mman> wols, ok
[13:07] <jrib> xendras: note jvgeli comment about "main1" though.  I noticed that too and I have not heard of such a section
[13:07] <mman> wols, didnt know that
[13:08] <jvgeli> bazhang: thats the problem, Natty doesnt play well with my APU.fglrx is slow, i get freezes on startup if i am on battery and my wifi and bluetooth is softblocked even if my hardware switch is on. I dont get these things on Maverick. I just upgraded to Natty as they say that Fusion is only supported by kernel .38
[13:08] <wols> AdamT_: whoever managed your apache2 before is a moron and didn't set up vhosts the way he should have. so your first order is to find out how he mangled it (that is if default and default-ssl are the only entries in /etc/apache2/sites-available/)
[13:08] <szal> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: tried to fsck the stick?
[13:08] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: interesting stuff, I just pulled out the hard disk from a working B560 and put it in this one.. and guess what, wireless stopped working
[13:09] <wols> AdamT_: however, I doubt you can competently manage the server before learning quite a bit
[13:09] <Deesl> so.. there is nothing wrong with the installation...
[13:09] <Deesl> the OS installation I mean
[13:09] <jvgeli> bazhang: kernel .38 has more issues than kernel .35 i think.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Deesl: weird
[13:09] <wols> Deesl: how did you call rfkill again?
[13:09] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> szal: will i lose the data like this? plus i dunno how to do it
[13:09] <Deesl> now why the hardwre switch is not working is the question...
[13:09] <Deesl> wols: rfkill unblock all and rfkill unblock id
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: you will never lose data as you will have a backup of your important stuff, right?
[13:10] <Deesl> but afaik, rfkill does not matter hardware blocks
[13:10] <wols> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: you might, but if you do, the data was corrupted in the first place. do a backup if you can beforehand
[13:10] <AdamT_> wols: those are the only 2 files in sites-available.  Inside the httpd.conf file there is the definition of each site with the servername and document root using <virtualhost *80>
[13:10] <Deesl> unless I am going completely wrong...
[13:10] <AdamT_> thats why i believed that was where i should put it
[13:10] <Deesl> am I right is assuming rfkill does not matter for hardware blocks?
[13:10] <wols> AdamT_: ok, he mismanaged your server :(
[13:10] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: right... nope!
[13:10] <AdamT_> wols: haha love that XD
[13:10] <wols> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: then it's high time before you do anything possibly data destroying
[13:11] <stercor> Where is the file containing the deb and deb-src lines?
[13:11] <oCean> AdamT_: what are you running? lsb_release -a
[13:11] <wols> AdamT_: basically you can either do a quick fix and set up a virtualhost the same way he did, or fix his mess which will take longer of course
[13:11] <Deesl> AdamT_: okay, each unix admin is different... the server he sets up tells his character
[13:11] <oCean> stercor: /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:12] <pythonirc1012> I used apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) to install kernel headers, vbox Guest Additions still complains that the correct kernel headers are not installed. What am I doing wrong?
[13:12] <stercor> oCean: Thanks!
[13:12] <AdamT_> running ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[13:12] <oCean> AdamT_: that's and eol version
[13:12] <AdamT_> wols: i did set up a virtual host like he did, but cannot get it to display.  was wondering if I needed to set up something elsewhere as well
[13:12] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: basically i gave this pendrive to a colleague and he used it on a windows machine with ext2soft (i think it's called like this) itz a software to read ext formatted hard drives from windows, i guess he just unplugged it without closing the software first, what could have happened? i have no backup of that stuff, help plz
[13:13] <wols> AdamT_: restarted apache2?
[13:13] <AdamT_> wols: yes, and the server several times
[13:13] <szal> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: all data you don't have backups of isn't important :P
[13:13] <wols> AdamT_: and your DNS server resolves the new subdomain too?
[13:13] <B166ER>  Hey I just installed Archlinux, I'm now doing running speaker-test, but how do I stop this program
[13:13] <AdamT_> wols: eh let me re-check real quick
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: possible data corruption
[13:14] <szal> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: plus, handling ext2/ext3 on Windows is highly unstable in my experience
[13:14] <wols> B166ER: wrong channel
[13:14] <B166ER> How to stop speaker-test
[13:14] <szal> B166ER: -> #archlinux
[13:14] <oCean> AdamT_: your 9.10 is no longer supported. You have to upgrade first. Specific httpd help can be found in #httpd channel
[13:14] <bazhang> B166ER, this is ubuntu support
[13:14] <B166ER> I know but apparently I can not post in that channel for reasons I don't understand
[13:14] <B166ER> First time I use IRC
[13:14] <szal> !register | B166ER
[13:14] <aetas> AdamT_, whats the problem?  I missed it, sorry
[13:14] <bazhang> B166ER, #freenode for that
[13:14] <MrNthDegree> B166ER, you need to register your nick I think
[13:14] <B166ER> ok thx!
[13:14] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip, szal: ok so what do i do?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: slap your friend and educate them is a good start
[13:15] <AdamT_> one sec, checking dns settings
[13:15] <mang0> Argh! Firefox just WON'T uninstall. I've used the package manager, and I've tried using the software center
[13:15] <mang0> it won't go away
[13:15] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: sorry but i dont have time for sarcasm
[13:15] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> what do i do?
[13:15] <mang0> How do I totally get rid of it?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> mang0: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: you may be able to use foremost to see what it can recover, why don't you have a backup
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> mang0: use a pastebin to host the text
[13:16] <Deesl> wols: missed my last question?
[13:16] <wols> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_: I told you long ago what to do. feel free to ignore it even longer
[13:16] <alazare619> im on xubuntu and im trying to share some folders over smb but im missing shared folders under applications system any ideas?
[13:17] <wols> Deesl: yes. but: there is a soft and a "hard" rfkill setting IIRC
[13:17] <wols> Deesl: but unblock all  should have catched it afaik
[13:17] <aetas> alazare619, system => administration => samba
[13:17] <Deesl> wols: okay....
[13:17] <Deesl> so ... bad hardware...
[13:17] <Deesl> unanimously accepted?
[13:17] <wols> alazare619: smbclient -L <local ip>
[13:18] <wols> Deesl: no. personally, I'd try a windows from anywhere first
[13:18] <wols> and use the lenovo software they provide to enable wlan
[13:18] <mman> wols, symbolic links have to be redifined in rc.local?
[13:18] <mang0> ActionParsnip: sorry, here http://www.pasteall.org/23415
[13:18] <wols> mman: no
[13:18] <mman> wols, thnks
[13:18] <wols> mman: symlinks are a filesystem thing and work always as long as the kernel works
[13:19] <mang0> ActionParsnip: looks like it want's to install epiphany. I already have opera and I don't want another browser...
[13:19] <mien> I try to restore my grub installation on a raid 1 system. I tried to boot with ubuntu livecd and mount the dist to do a grub-install but since grub install requires a /dev/sda on the ending i cant do that from the livecd cuz /dev/md0 does not exist. any soulutions?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> mang0: then run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove epiphany-browser; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:19] <mang0> okay
[13:20] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> ActionParsnip: fsck worked, fixed my prob, i got the files now
[13:20] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd_> thanks
[13:21] <Deesl> wols: okay... so install windows.. and say its working ... then where do we troubleshoot?
[13:21] <wols> Deesl: basically you enable it in windows, reboot to linux and pray it then works (which it usually does)
[13:22] <Deesl> wols okay.. thats a hell of a hack :D
[13:22] <wdp> Hey. I haven't used Ubuntu before, so I'm not sure whether that is normal behaviour; I'm used to source-based linux distributions and I'm using linux for more than 14 years (I just want to point out, that I'm not an unexperienced user, so also "difficult" aproaches might be helpful to me). I just compared a plain Ubuntu installation with Lunar's. In X11 when I move the mouse very fast my lunar gives me at maximum a cpu usage of 8% for XOrg (no nautilus t
[13:22] <wdp> here, xfce4). The Ubuntu gives me 20% cpu usage for XOrg and 20% cpu usage for nautilus (gnome). I did some things to the Ubuntu Install (putting /tmp to tmpfs, replacing getty with fgetty, setting noatime for the partitions except for home, where i use relatime, such stuff) and the cpu usage went down to 11% for XOrg and 11% for nautilus.
[13:22] <aetas> wols: is this just to turn on his wifi card?
[13:22] <wols> Deesl: it sucks but that's ACPI for you
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> wdp: which video chip are you using?
[13:22] <Deesl> so I need to *get* a copy of windows :D
[13:23] <wdp> As far as i know, this shouldn't happen. That usage should be between 1 and 10% at most. Also I'm wondering why it's happening for "nautilus" also, that's just a file browser, why is it getting a load when i move the mouse?
[13:23] <wdp> ActionParsnip, plain install, ATI KMS i guess.
[13:23] <dr_willis> i have had wireless switches turn off in linux. but i had to boot to windows to turn wireless back on.. i think a later update fixed that quirk for that laptop. i just never ever.. use that switch ;)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wdp: nautilus also draws the desktop icons, its not just a file browser
[13:23] <wdp> ActionParsnip, i checked glxinfo | grep render - it's not Software Rasterizing.
[13:23] <wols> wdp: makes no sense. if you move your cursor and it causes load it's most probably X or one of its drivers (e.g. 3D driver needing lots of CPU)
[13:23] <tomek_> I need antivirus software for linux . Any recommendations ?
[13:23] <szal> wdp: custom build vs. generic build, I guess
[13:23] <wols> szal: not that much
[13:24] <renaldocreative> tomek try CLAMAV
[13:24] <wdp> i see.
[13:24] <mman> is there a way to "test" the rc.local without rebooting the server?
[13:24] <szal> wols: well, 8% vs 11% is not that much of a difference, if you ask me
[13:24] <mang0> ActionParsnip: I uninstall firefox, and epiphany installs, I uninsatall epiphany and firefox installs ;__;
[13:24] <dr_willis> tomek_:  why do you need it..
[13:24] <tomek_> for security purposes
[13:25] <dr_willis> tomek_:  you do relize its jusg going to scan files for windows viruses..
[13:25] <renaldocreative> tomek you don't have to worry about viruses, adware, etc
[13:25] <wdp> szal, depends. Those 11% alone would be okay, but i get 11% for nautilus and 11% for XOrg - means 22% of the cpu are used just for moving the mouse.
[13:25] <tomek_> yes, windows
[13:25] <mman> tomek_, i use mcafee command line, good in my eyes
[13:25] <dr_willis> and do little for 'security' theres several av tools for linux, clamav is in the repos
[13:25] <wdp> However; Is there something i could do, to improve that? Are there alternatives for nautilus? Would using a propritary driver fix that issue?
[13:25] <wols> szal: 8% is too high from the start imho
[13:26] <dr_willis> there are av live cds out there also.
[13:26] <wols> szal: and this was after doing some shit that has no real bearing on the mousepointer too
[13:26] <mang0> Deesl: I have some copies of legit windows if you want one...very, very old though haha
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> mang0: uninstall both at the same time
[13:26] <mang0> ActionParsnip: how?
[13:26] <alazare619> aetas, got it  samba wasnt installed in synaptic reinstalled and found the icon thanks
[13:26] <wols> tomek_: you don't need AV software
[13:26] <Murdock> Hi all
[13:26] <mang0> sudo apt-get remove epiphany, firefox?
[13:26] <aetas> alazare619, np, glad you got it working
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> mang0: sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox epiphany-browser; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:27] <wols> mang0: XP is still usable for what he needs to do
[13:27] <dr_willis> Deesl:  windows has some legit/legal free rescue isos you can get also. but not sure about drivers for wireless in them.
[13:27] <howlymowly> hi poeple..   short question:  since yesterday or so I always get a message:  WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!  when using aptitude   I also can not use the "software-center" anymore
[13:27] <mang0> wols: k
[13:27] <alazare619> aetas, had me stumped tho why the hell isnt samba installed by default in xubuntu or any xfce distro now?
[13:27] <mang0> ActionParsnip: k
[13:27] <howlymowly> any idea what hapened?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> howlymowly: can you give  a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     (close software centre etc first)
[13:27] <dr_willis> alazare619:  its not default in ubuntu either.
[13:27] <wdp> ActionParsnip, or any idea how to debug what's causing that?
[13:27] <mien> is there any way to boot the live cd with raid support?
[13:28] <aetas> alazare619, not everyone uses it.  actually I very rarely use it
[13:28] <alazare619> dr_willis, it use to have the shared folders icon tho that would install it thats missing too
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> wdp: not sure, seems a bit weird, it the RAM healthy?
[13:28] <wdp> yep.
[13:28] <mang0> ActionParsnip: It's still not working. Now it wants to uninstall epiphany, not install firefox, but install 200mb of other stuff I don't want
[13:28] <wols> mien: there must be or you couldn't have installed onto your raid
[13:28] <szal> wols: I have X running at somewhere between 7 and 10%, occasionally spiking to 15%, and moving the mouse pointer in circles doesn't do much to increase that (5% at worst)
[13:28] <mien> wols, thats right, do u know how i can do it too? :)
[13:29] <dr_willis> alazare619:  i can access windows sharew without it.. and if i set up a share it asks to install samba
[13:29] <wols> mang0: is there any reason you can't just install ffox and remove epiphany afterwards?
[13:29] <szal> wols: and that is after 5 days of uptime
[13:29] <wols> mien: since I don't use a raid, n :)
[13:29] <mang0> wols: I don't want firefox
[13:29] <mang0> or epiphany
[13:29] <wdp> szal, see, here it's differently. X idle is 0-1% cpu. Moving the mouse is nautilus 11-25% and XOrg 11-20% :)
[13:29] <aetas> mien: software or hardware raid?
[13:29] <wols> wdp: gnome/unity?
[13:29] <wdp> i just installed ubuntu LTS
[13:30] <wdp> and did an update. i guess unity is not installed.
[13:30] <wdp> just gnome.
[13:30] <mien> aetas, software
[13:30]  * szal blames Gnome
[13:30] <alazare619> at login screen you can make it so you dont load unity by choosing gnome classic wdp
[13:30] <mien> aetas, i would like be able to mount /dev/md0
[13:30] <wols> mang0: show us the exact output of your command or it's not possible to help you (imho). and chances are you must have some browser or other installed due to dependencies. and no opera doesn't count since it's not a properly made .deb
[13:31] <mang0> wols: I installed opera from a .deb
[13:31] <aetas> mien, this is linux kernel software raid or what?
[13:31] <mang0> but okay, I'll pastebin
[13:31] <wols> wdp: my suggestion is to use a light environment without any 3D rendering or such
[13:31] <wdp> alazare619, there just gnome and gnome (secure mode or something, got it translation)
[13:31] <wols> mang0: read what I wrote
[13:31] <wdp> s/there/there's
[13:31] <mang0> wols: ah
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> wdp: http://digitizor.com/2010/05/10/how-to-install-unity-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[13:32] <mien> aetas, what i want is to have /dev/md devices recognized, i dont know much about raid...
[13:32] <wols> mang0: is your diskspace really so precious that you need to save the 10MB or so ffox/epiphany uses?
[13:32] <wols> ActionParsnip: I doubt he wants to
[13:32] <wdp> wols, mhm. Yeah. guessed so. I was just hopeing that anyone here would have an idea how to configure nautilus differently for example. Like not updating the desktop in realtime or something.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> wols: why?
[13:32] <aetas> mien, Im basically asking what you used to set the raid up
[13:32] <wols> ActionParsnip: read the log
[13:32] <alazare619> wdp,  odd you could install xfce desktop enviorment that doesnt have unity then remove gnome then no more unity, unity hates my pc for some odd reason
[13:33] <wdp> alazare619, heh. Thanks so far :)
[13:33] <aetas> mien, see if this helps at all http://www.jeffsplace.net/node/14
[13:33] <mien> aetas, default presets for raid 1 in the ubuntu installation
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> wols: I'm not following you
[13:33] <mang0> wols: well not really, but I'd rather not have them. Just annoying. Lol. http://pastebin.com/2Mcan6Kq ActionParsnip <----
[13:33] <aetas> mien, ok yeah, try the directions on that website.  it obviously detected it since it has the device
[13:33] <wols> wdp: experiment: use a very basic driver (VESA?) and see if the same happens. imho it's probably something like transparency or such that fscks up. you know, the "fancy stuff"
[13:33] <wdp> ActionParsnip, people report, that "removing" unity would help in my case, as unity is not even installed, installing it would cause the opposite effect.
[13:34] <wdp> ActionParsnip, thats, what he means.
[13:34] <alazare619> wdp,  what kind of graphics card are you running by chance?
[13:34] <wdp> some odd onboard ati graphiccard. just a sec.
[13:34] <mien> aetas, thx alot! exactly what i was looking for
[13:34] <aetas> wdp, is this one of the shared ram onboard cards like laptops have?
[13:34] <aetas> mien, np, it work?
[13:35] <Joupi> mang0, As ActionParsnip wrote, you need a browser which is a proper .deb
[13:35] <wdp> aetas, yeah. i can add ram in the bios. currently its set to auto (32mb)
[13:35] <mien> aetas, soon we will se :)
[13:35] <wdp> lemme guess, that's causing it? :)
[13:35] <wols> mang0: or you fake one via equivs
[13:35] <Joupi> in this case it wants to install konqueror ;-)
[13:35] <mang0> wols: ?
[13:35]  * wdp forgot about that.
[13:35] <mang0> Joupi: bother.
[13:35] <alazare619> wdp,  ok what wols said is kidna right expecept afaik vesa is just for intel have you tried applications > sstem > hard ware drivers ? and installed the proprietary ati drivers for your card?
[13:35] <wols> mang0: apt-cache show equivs
[13:35] <mang0> k
[13:35] <zerium1> having some issues with Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS and php's ftp package... ftp_nlist is simply not working
[13:35] <wdp> alazare619, vesa is for nearly every graphiccard :)
[13:35] <aetas> wdp, those aren't full graphics cards since they share the ram.  if you throw 3d effects at them they usually cause higher cpu/mem usage than fully hardware ones
[13:36] <wols> zerium1: does a normal ftp client work?
[13:36] <zerium1> wols: yes and so does php from my mac
[13:36] <wdp> aetas, i disabled effects; and i dont think theres a lot 3d needed to draw a moving mouse cursor. or?
[13:36] <zerium1> same code, same connection
[13:36] <Krenair> Can you upgrade kernel 2.6.32-33-generic to 3 on Ubuntu 10.04?
[13:36] <alazare619> wdp hmm i havent read about vesa in awhile
[13:36] <zerium1> i thought it was that my tmpdir wasn't set but I set it in my path and still not working
[13:36] <aetas> wdp, was this always this way or did it start at some point?
[13:36] <wols> wdp: normally mouse cursors are hardware cursors (even on IGPs), but maybe it chose a software cursor for some reason?
[13:37] <moreno_> Murdock
[13:37] <Anthony__> Hello everyone.  Can someone help me create a new database
[13:37] <Murdock> hi moreno
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: yes but we cannot support you then as you will be using a 3rd party kernel
[13:37] <wols> Krenair: what for?
[13:37] <aetas> Anthony_, care to be a bit more specific?
[13:37] <szal> Krenair: there's not even a stable release of kernel 3.0 yet
[13:37] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, 3rd party kernel...?
[13:37] <wdp> aetas, i never used ubuntu before; so i can just compare with different distributions. On those i never used gnome, so i can only compare with xfce4. And thus.. all my comparisations are somehow fail. However; this is a "fresh" install of ubuntu LTS. Downloaded the iso today, installed today. Updated today.
[13:37] <Krenair> szal: https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: there is a kernel ppa, use it at your own risk. I suggest you simply wait for oneiric to be released and use that (or use the alpha 2)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: yes, not maintained by the ubuntu team
[13:38] <wols> Krenair: basically, anything but the ubuntu made kernels is unsupported. including using a kernel from a different ubuntu version, tho there are reasons why this sometimes is needed. what is your reason for kernel 3.0?
[13:38] <wols> Krenair: there might be a solution for your problem without changing kernels
[13:38] <Krenair> ActionParsnip, Linux is not maintained by the ubuntu team
[13:38] <aetas> wdp, ok that helps.  hrmm...lemme think if there's something else to try
[13:38] <Krenair> wols: I do not have a problem, I want to try out the latest kernel version.
[13:38] <szal> Krenair: that's (1) upstream and (2) 11 hours ago; last package I saw was 3.0-rc7
[13:38] <Anthony__> aetas: I need to create a new database on our server, for a ticketing system i am installing
[13:39] <wdp> aetas, i can provide additional information if useful. like lspci, glxinfo, xorg log. dmesg.
[13:39] <wols> Krenair: ah, SNS syndrome then
[13:39] <Krenair> wols, SNS syndrome?
[13:39] <wasanzy> hi all, I have a mod_perl web site running on centos, and I want to migrate the site to Ubuntu, but in centos the site directory is in /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/
[13:39] <Krenair> szal: 3.0-rc7 is a release candidate
[13:39] <Krenair> I am talking about 3.0
[13:39] <dyd> when i open an mp3 i can use the slide to move forward/backward...
[13:39] <moreno_> hi
[13:39] <wols> Krenair: <dpkg> Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released.  If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>.
[13:39] <moreno_> somebody help me?
[13:39] <dyd> using totem movie player
[13:39] <wols> !tell moreno_ about ask
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Krenair: yes but the kernel tried and tested for the release is packaged by the ubuntu teams, if people start using kernels not ntended for their release then they are on their own
[13:39] <Murdock> Excuse me what Can I use ubuntu?
[13:40] <zerium1> wols: any idea?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Murdock: your question doesn't make sense
[13:40] <wols> Murdock: please rephrase your question
[13:40] <coz_> Murdock,  can you explain that differently? I am not sure I understand
[13:40] <h00k> !language | wols
[13:40] <pauldutot71_> hello All,
[13:40] <wols> zerium1: no. but a strong suggestion: stop using ftp. it's evil.
[13:40] <aetas> wdp, I know you can change the mouse poll interval and also if the polling rate is set high it will start sucking up cpu.  on vanilla ubuntu this is changed in CompizConfig Settings Manager but I'm not sure on there
[13:40] <moreno_> I can hack alien starship whit ubuntu?
[13:40] <zerium1> wols: if i had that option i would... clients
[13:40] <wasanzy> I don't have that directory in my ubuntu, so my question is, under which directory does mod_perl sites resides? the site is written in pure mod_perl not cgi
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> moreno_: sure
[13:40] <bazhang> moreno_, no
[13:41] <moreno_> D':
[13:41] <moreno_> Why?
[13:41] <wols> moreno_: no. only macs can do that. now stop trolling and ask your real question if you have one
[13:41] <aetas> wdp, that likely isnt going to be the root cause but it may alleviate some of the symptoms while you find the problem
[13:41] <wdp> aetas, hm. yeah. i know how to change the polling rate at the boot loader. as its an usb mouse.
[13:41] <jambrong> gabungnya gmn?
[13:41] <wdp> might be a try worth.
[13:41] <wols> zerium1: sftp ftw
[13:41] <zerium1> wols: yeah gotta connect to this shitty windows box
[13:41] <Anthony__> aetas: i just want to create a new database for a ticketing system I am installing
[13:41] <wols> wasanzy: under /var/www like any other website
[13:42] <oCean> Anthony__: your 9.10 ubuntu version is no longer supported
[13:42] <wols> zerium1: there are ssh servers for windows...
[13:42] <h00k> !language | zerium1
[13:42] <alazare619> ok afaik my samba shares are all up and going now can someone point me in the right directory for a nice gui for a easy ftp server gadmin suites hate me
[13:42] <shomon> might be good not to keep it in var/www so as to confuse the script kiddies
[13:42] <aetas> wdp, whats the general load on the system right now?  I know if you have no other apps running, it will let X suck up more especially if the poll rate is higher
[13:42] <aetas> Anthony_, that doesn't help man, there's many different database systems
[13:42] <Murdock> Where Can I find a guide for ubuntu?
[13:43] <wdp> aetas, second, im collecting infos.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[13:43] <bazhang> !manual > Murdock
[13:43] <Anthony__> aetas: a mysql database
[13:43] <aetas> Anthony_, is mysql server installed?
[13:43] <oCean> Anthony__: you have to upgrade first
[13:43] <Anthony__> aetas: yes
[13:43] <wasanzy> wols: I know in centos, the documentroot is /var/www/html/ but still, that was not the path mod_perl was using, is it not some kind of special directory for perl?
[13:43] <wasanzy> just asking though
[13:43] <Murdock> Who is ubottu?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu | Murdock
[13:44] <Murdock> I know now xD
[13:45] <aetas> wasanzy, perl doesnt have a special directory, although people will use cgi-bins usually
[13:45] <wols> aetas: mod-perl too?
[13:46] <Tweaky> hi. i seem to have lost the volume control speaker icon in the unity top bar.. any ideas how i can get this back?
[13:47] <wasanzy> ok, but am using mod_perl not cgi
[13:47] <bazhang> Tweaky, what about installing indicator-applet-complete
[13:47] <aetas> you just have to make sure you configure it correctly
[13:47] <aetas> what are you trying to do?
[13:47] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I have a weird problem, my cdrom was working fine previously, but lately, when I put a cd in, after sometime it just ejects...can someone help me diagnose what the problem might be ? I have an optical drive
[13:47] <wasanzy> ok
[13:48] <Tweaky> bazhang: it is already installed
[13:48] <bazhang> Tweaky, what about re-adding it
[13:49] <Janusman> I'm about to migrate to a new machine, and I have already done sudo dpkg –get-selections > installedsoftware ... but some of those packages are from different repositories than what /etc/apt/sources.list say. Should I just copy over /etc/apt/sources.list.d ??
[13:49] <Tweaky> bazhang: im not very framiliar with unity.. how can i do this?
[13:50] <dhruvasagar> anybody ?
[13:50] <joe_9> Nautilus shows my secondary hard drive when I boot into Ubuntu, but applications cannot access it until I've opened the drive with Nautilius. How can I make the drive accessible without having to open it in Nautilus?
[13:51] <aetas> joe_9, its probably using fuse
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> joe_9: add an entry in /etc/fstab
[13:51] <wasanzy> do we please perl, python and c channel, as in programming or scripting lang?
[13:51] <aetas> wdp, you still here?
[13:52] <wdp_buntu> aetas, lspci: http://pastie.org/2254074 dmesg: http://pastie.org/2254107 glxinfo: http://pastie.org/2254112
[13:52] <Pici> !alis | wasanzy
[13:52] <wdp_buntu> aetas, just one sec, doing XOrg log .. :>
[13:52] <aetas> wdp_buntu, found something that may or may not help
[13:53] <wdp_buntu> yep?
[13:53] <wdp_buntu> hm i guess xorg.log is not useful; no errors, no warning.
[13:53] <aetas> wdp_buntu, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/+bug/558657
[13:54] <wasanzy> ok
[13:54] <wdp_buntu> aetas, thanks, lemme take a look
[13:54] <aetas> wdp_buntu, go there and search for....HWCursor first and then "magazine.redhat.com"
[13:55] <aetas> should get you to the right comments...those look like they may help
[13:55] <wdp_buntu> yeah well you mean setting hwcursor to false.
[13:55] <wdp_buntu> in xorg.conf.
[13:55] <thrillERboy> Hi, Guys I installed ubuntu with wubi, now when I enter ubuntu from the boot menu, I see an error message: No WUBILDR and then grub prompt appears, I have some important files inside ubuntu. Please help.
[13:56] <aetas> thrillERboy, they're not gone so calm down ;)
[13:57] <thrillERboy> :)
[13:57]  * thrillERboy is worried
[13:57] <wdp_buntu> aetas, i'll try a bit around. im sure something of the stuff will help. I'll let you know if i was able to solve the issue.
[13:57] <thrillERboy> First thing I'll do after getting ubuntu back up, is installing Dejavu :D
[13:58] <alazare619> can someone point me in the right directory for a nice gui for a easy ftp server gadmin suites hate me
[13:58] <alazare619> direction not directory
[13:58] <aetas> wdp_buntu, cool, Im interested to see what helps
[13:58] <MrUnagi> whats the easiest way to transfer a mail server from os x to ubuntu
[13:59] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  it is possible to mount the wubi disk file and access things in it. from a live cd.  i dont use or reccomend wubi at all.
[13:59] <wdp> alazare619, ftp SERVER or CLIENT? just to make sure
[13:59] <alazare619> server wdp
[13:59] <alazare619> ive tried proftpd with gadmin gui but i could not get it running right
[13:59] <wdp> no idea about gui there; i'm using pure-ftpd and proftpd, they're quite nice and easy to configure, without gui.
[14:00] <wdp> maybe take a look at pure-ftpd's documentation.
[14:00] <aetas> thrillERboy, did you just install this or is it an old install?
[14:00] <thrillERboy> dr_willis: I don't have a live cd now. I can I burn one now?
[14:00] <alazare619> ill check them out without the gui i just dont want to have to hand edit 10k .config files you know :P
[14:01] <dyd> guys i have an empty 250 hd that is all unallocated
[14:01] <thrillERboy> aetas: I've using this with ubuntu and win7 for like 3 months
[14:01] <dyd> what should i do in order to use it to store data?
[14:01] <thrillERboy> aetas: I did a bad shut down today and now the grub menu appears :(
[14:01] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  you can make them with windows . yes.
[14:01] <aetas> thrillERboy, probably trashed the filesystem
[14:01] <thrillERboy> aetas: you mean all files are gone?? :/
[14:01] <dr_willis> dyd: partition it, format it, mount it..
[14:01] <aetas> thrillERboy, do you have a rescue cd / live cd?
[14:02] <aetas> no, it means its unclean although its possible you could have done damage but not that likely
[14:02] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I have a weird problem, my cdrom was working fine previously, but lately, when I put a cd in, after sometime it just ejects...can someone help me diagnose what the problem might be ? I have an optical drive
[14:02] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I have a weird problem, my cdrom was working fine previously, but lately, when I put a cd in, after sometime it just ejects...can someone help me diagnose what the problem might be ? I have an optical drive
[14:02] <dyd> dr_willis: it's good to make 1 big partition? ext what? ext2-3-4?
[14:02] <thrillERboy> I'll prepare one now. aetas dr_willis . Will be back in a moment
[14:02] <thrillERboy> thans
[14:02] <thrillERboy> thanks* :)
[14:02] <dyd> dr_willis: i mean only 1 big partition
[14:02] <dr_willis> dyd: depends on your neeeds. ext4 should work fine
[14:02] <aetas> thrillERboy, here's a relevant thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198 in case you don't come back
[14:03] <alazare619> dyd,  if its for storage ext3 or 4 if its a main drive i prefer ext2 as its quicker and has less redundancy and writes to the drive but thats just my personal prefrence
[14:03] <thrillERboy> thanks aetas. I'm buring cd now :)
[14:03] <aetas> thrillERboy, so does windows still boot?
[14:04] <dyd> alazare619: since it's for storage i'll use ext4, thank you
[14:04] <dyd> dr_willis: thank you
[14:04] <thrillERboy> aetas: yes, I can boot inside win7
[14:04] <aetas> you said this was on a separate hard drive right?
[14:05] <dr_willis> can wubi go on a drive other then c:?
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> thrillERboy, Some suggestions prior to burning: Md5sum the iso image to make sure it's perfect, then burn at the sloooowest speed.
[14:06] <bazhang> MicroBot, hi
[14:06] <connie>  Censortron
[14:06] <thrillERboy> thansk Sidewinder1 would have missed tat :)
[14:06] <Sidewinder1> NP
[14:06] <aetas> thrillERboy, do you still have your ubuntu and wubildr directories in the windows partition?
[14:07] <wdp> aetas, could you do me a favour? please check with top what xorg and nautilus do when you do nothing (cpu usage) using gnome terminal. then move the mouse very fast, what cpu usage do you get for xorg and nautilus? Then stop top and type in xterm -ls & then exit and in the opened xterm do top again and move the mouse again, what cpu load for nautilus and xorg?
[14:08] <Satisfied> is Firefox 4 available for ubuntu yet ??
[14:08] <arkanabar> conky
[14:08] <dr_willis> !firefox
[14:08] <iceroot> !ff5 | Satisfied
[14:08] <thrillERboy> aetas: I have some files inside winboot directory inside windows partition namely wubildr wubildr.mbr wubildr.tar etc
[14:08] <aetas> wdp, one sec
[14:10] <aetas> wdp, nothing is X at 11% and nautilus at 2%, very fast is X at 15% and nautilus at 10%....checking the last
[14:11] <aetas> wdp, no real difference on the second command
[14:11] <arkanabar> wdp, default config of conky will show top 3 entries in top in most DEs -- not sure about unity & Gnome shell, though.
[14:11] <wdp> k
[14:11] <aetas> thrillERboy, ok, hrm
[14:11] <requiemzz> hello
[14:12] <aetas> thrillERboy, ok so you are starting win7 and then ubuntu or what?
[14:13] <cdavis> Hello, in Natty my trash is showing empty even though I see files in ~/.share/local/Trash/files
[14:14] <thrillERboy> aetas: I can't understand your questions, sorry :) I'm inside windows now. To burn Ubuntu CD
[14:14] <nyuszika7h> cdavis: Hi, are they hidden files?
[14:14] <Deesl> ActionParsnip: further updates... the wireless card does not work in Windows 7 as well
[14:14] <aetas> thrillERboy, how do you start ubuntu normally?
[14:14] <Deesl> so... bad hardware... unanimously accepted now?
[14:14] <cdavis> nyuszika7h: no, they are not
[14:15] <arkanabar> aetas, a moment.  thrillERboy , are you wanting to install Ubuntu to its own partition?
[14:15] <aetas> hes burning a rescue cd
[14:15] <aetas> so he can get his files mainly
[14:16] <aetas> although he probably should install it on its own
[14:16] <Oxymoron> Hi, I wondering. How do I get HDMI output working. It seems like my TV get some kind of signal, but its just black on the screen.
[14:16] <thrillERboy> aetas: Normally window boot menu appears, I'll select ubuntu in it, then grub boot menu will appear, now when I select Ubuntu only grub CLI appears. I guess kernal is not loaded.
[14:16] <JakeBwell> Hey people occasionally when running an application my task bar gets stuck in view even when I have a maximised browser it stay in screen blocking the view of the browser
[14:16] <JakeBwell> running ubuntu 11.04
[14:16] <JakeBwell> any ideas
[14:17] <thrillERboy> arkanabar: I would like that, but I have only one partition now, I have tonnes of files to backup inside windows and ubuntu :(
[14:17] <aetas> thrillERboy, I don't understand why it needs wubi then, you should be able to run it on its own without it
[14:17] <dhruvasagar> is there a way to find out if my cdrom drive (hardware) is broken ?
[14:17] <Oxymoron> And then I wonder, if its possible to install some kind of  acceleration divers for my laptop? I have dual link with Intel something integrated and some kind of crappy Nvidia ...
[14:17] <arkanabar> aetas, I think thrillERboy wants to rescue some files from his wubi install
[14:18] <thrillERboy> arkanabar: exactly
[14:18] <aetas> yeah, I told him to make the cd :)
[14:18] <W4RH4WK> i want to encrypt my file system. is it save to use an encrypted LVM when install ubuntu /debian with a complex password or is it easy to break this kind of encryption
[14:18]  * thrillERboy burning cd now
[14:18] <wols> Oxymoron: sure it is, tho you will have probelms if you use the proprietary nvidia drivers
[14:19] <wols> W4RH4WK: it's not easy to brak
[14:19] <Oxymoron> wols: Why? :)
[14:19] <wols> *break
[14:19] <aetas> thrillERboy, so you have it installed into a boot image on the windows partition?
[14:19] <arkanabar> thrillERboy, go to nonags.com and search for archiving tools, see if you can find one to open up your wubi files.
[14:19] <wols> Oxymoron: cause the nvidia drivers are proprietary and don't work like linux drivers should work. nouveau does
[14:19] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: Why do you encrypt in the first place?
[14:20] <Oxymoron> wols: Well, does nouveau works some kind of stable then or is it unusable as earlier? :P
[14:20] <NoReGreT> i'm having trouble with suspending the system, it just freezes with a black screen, so i read somehwere to use "acpitool", that worked by suspending, but waking up is failing with the same black screen, any solutions? i'm on HP DV6 with dual GPUs
[14:20] <arkanabar> Oxymoron, encryption is generally a good idea, ESP on laptops.
[14:20] <thrillERboy> yes aetas
[14:20] <Oxymoron> arkanabar: ESP?
[14:20] <cdavis> nyuszika7h: I installed the cli tools and emptied the trash. Then I tested by deleting something and it now shows up. Perhaps somethign just got out of whack.
[14:20] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, i am working with critical data on my laptop, and if i lose my laptop ...
[14:20] <arkanabar> Oxymoron, sorry.  especially.
[14:21] <thrillERboy> arkanabar: do you recommend any specific tools?
[14:21] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: Just curious, what kind of critical data? :)
[14:21] <aetas> thrillERboy, ok then yeah, you should try to boot into the rescue through wubi and fsck the partition
[14:21] <nyuszika7h> cdavis: Or the file you moved to Trash was a hidden file - those aren't displayed in Nautilus by default.
[14:21] <arkanabar> W4RH4WK, you may prefer an OS that encrypts the entire disk, eg Mandriva or fedora.
[14:21] <thrillERboy> aetas: meaning inside grub> menu?
[14:21] <cdavis> nyuszika7h: I don't believe so, there were about 30 files listed in the files directory.
[14:22] <Oxymoron> arkanabar: Its easier not to encrypt anything ... Even if you do, its not worth it as it can be forced anyway.
[14:22] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, mainly patient data, dossiers and stuff like this
[14:22] <nyuszika7h> cdavis: What do you mean?
[14:22] <thrillERboy> my ubuntu files are inside (hd0,msdos3)
[14:22] <aetas> thrillERboy, you would hop into the rescue cd at that point, yeah
[14:22] <MrNthDegree> who needs to encrypt the whole disk?
[14:22] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: Aha I see :) Well if anyone even would like the information they could hack your computer anyway :P
[14:22] <nyuszika7h> If you use `ls -a', or you have `ls' aliased to `ls -a', it's possible that it always shows hidden files.
[14:23] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, yes of course, i am aware of this fact. But that's another topic...
[14:23] <wols> arkanabar: ubuntu can do this too
[14:23] <cdavis> nyuszika7h: Within ~/.local/share/Trash/files I could see there were about 30 files listed. However, when opening the trash can the spinner spun for about 3 minutes and eventually dispalyed nothing at all
[14:23] <Oxymoron> Anyone able to help meout with my HDMI output problem?
[14:23] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, i am afraid of losing my laptop, somebody finds it and starts to blackmail me
[14:23] <thrillERboy> aetas: unknown command: fsck
[14:24] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: In other words, I dont see any reason for encrypt it. And if you must, encrypt USB stick or something, and work on only that ;)
[14:24] <wols> thrillERboy: "sudo"
[14:24] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: Why would anyone bother to blackmail a private person? :P
[14:24] <DamnSoGooD> how can i install a downloaded app?
[14:24] <bazhang> !ot | Oxymoron
[14:24] <aetas> thrillERboy, where are you at this point?
[14:24] <wols> DamnSoGooD: depends on the format it come sin
[14:25] <arkanabar> @all, encryption is required of anyone storing confidential data, eg medical professionals, lawyers, therapists.  @wols, ubuntu encrypts /home.  fedora and mandriva encrypt EVERYTHING.
[14:25] <Oxymoron> bazhang: Yeah I guess I go off topic :P
[14:25] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, well, why not, cash is always a good approach
[14:25] <samet> hi, i use ubuntu desktop edititon, but my system be laptop edition after update, how to back desktop edition
[14:25] <thrillERboy> I'm in grub> prompt aetas
[14:25] <dr_willis> DamnSoGooD: what app. and filename
[14:25] <DamnSoGooD> it is a tar.gz format, it is network manager i will install in a lxde ubuntu
[14:25] <wols> arkanabar: read what I wrote. and google "ubuntu LUKS pre-boot"
[14:25] <aetas> thrillERboy, ok, one sec
[14:25] <bazhang> samet, choose classic
[14:25] <jatt> you encrypt home but what if your private key gets lost?
[14:25] <wols> DamnSoGooD: don't
[14:25] <thrillERboy> wols: sudo only matters If i'm inside the OS. I hope
[14:25] <bazhang> DamnSoGooD, get from the repos
[14:26] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: I am not going further in this topic. But I just say, dont be so paranoid. You could even be dead by a meteorite tomorrow xD
[14:26] <bazhang> !classic | samet
[14:26] <wols> thrillERboy:  < thrillERboy> aetas: unknown command: fsck
[14:26] <Galaxor> Banshee just became unresponsive.  I killed it.  Now there's a defunct Banshee process.  When I try to start a new one, it just hangs there.  No output on the console, no windows open.
[14:26] <DamnSoGooD> my lappy has no connection, thats why i will install network manager offline
[14:26] <thrillERboy> wols: I'm in grub prompt wols sudo won't help. I'm in nobody's land :(
[14:27] <aetas> thrillERboy, can you try the instructions here? http://www.omaregan.com/?p=583
[14:27] <Galaxor> I ran it with --debug and I got this:  [1 Debug 10:26:43.082] Bus.Session.RequestName ('org.bansheeproject.Banshee') replied with InQueue
[14:27] <arkanabar> DamnSoGooD, did you download a .tar or a .deb file?
[14:27] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, i think you are right and i am just to paranoid... i will install encrypted LVM anyway... at least it doesn't cost me anything
[14:27] <samet> thanks
[14:27] <aetas> thrillERboy, or do "ls -l" from there
[14:27] <wols> thrillERboy: "ls"
[14:27] <Oxymoron> W4RH4WK: Truecrypt ;)
[14:28] <DamnSoGooD> a tar.gz
[14:28] <W4RH4WK> Oxymoron, can i use truecrypt for a system partion or do i have to create a single encrypted partiton / container on my fs
[14:28] <jnsl_> Hey guys! I'm trying to mount a folder with sshfs, it works if i don't use sudo (if i use sudo i don't have permissions for the dir i'm trying to mount), however i would like to mount the dir in /media/ and for this i need sudo! argh
[14:29] <wols> W4RH4WK: no you cannot. you can use LUKS for it tho
[14:29] <aetas> jnsl_, so change the permissions or add that user to the group for that directory
[14:29] <W4RH4WK> wols, ok, ty... i think i once read about LUKS in a gentoo manual or so..
[14:29] <aetas> jnsl_, or mount it somewhere that user has access and link it into media
[14:29] <wols> jnsl_: show us the command and output for the time when you try it with sudo, cause this doesn't sound right
[14:30] <thrillERboy> ls -l shows partitions and its info aetas
[14:30] <jnsl_> okay 1sec
[14:30] <aetas> thrillERboy, ok, try the few lines on that website.  I think that will fix it
[14:31] <W4RH4WK> jnsl_, adding a line to fstab allows you to mount / unmount as normal user
[14:31] <aetas> wols, I wonder if hes trying to mount it without providing the ssh user and since hes sudoing to root, it tries to log him in as root
[14:31] <jnsl_> "sshfs jn@myserver:/var/www /media/myserver" this give me "read: Connection reset by peer"
[14:32] <aetas> ...how did you jump from that to permissions problems?
[14:32] <faLUCE> is there a text editor which I can control through scripts? for example: I can implement a script that writes "foo" in the text editor, or that moves the cursor
[14:32] <jnsl_> err with sudo that one
[14:32] <W4RH4WK> jnsl_, this would be my line in fstab> sshfs#w4rh4wk@xray:/    /mnt/xray   fuse    rw,noauto,user,noexec,sync,reconnect,fsname=sshfs#w4rh4wk@xray:/    0   0
[14:32] <jnsl_> if i dont use sudo and mount in my home folder it works
[14:32] <wols> jnsl_: you didn't use sudo above either
[14:33] <wols> and a connection reset by peer has NOTHING to do what user runs it locally
[14:33] <jnsl_> wols wopps that was a spelling mistake, sorry, that was with sudo
[14:33] <Deesl> anyway
[14:33] <Deesl> now for the next laptop
[14:33] <jnsl_> i will try fstab it
[14:33] <aetas> that won't help right now
[14:34] <thrillERboy> what is the latest kernal version for ubuntu I updated 2 days ago. end its with .10 and starts with 2.6
[14:34] <[tla]> faLUCE: emacs commands are written in a lisp style language that you can extend / reuse as much as you like.  may be overkill for what you want though.
[14:34] <Lasers> faLUCE: vim?
[14:34] <CloudAche84> I have 3.0. something or other
[14:34] <Lasers> faLUCE: I mentioned autokey. Don't know if you got it.
[14:34] <aetas> jnsl_, I think its probably the ssh key problem
[14:35] <thrillERboy> or many be starts with 2.8 I'm not sure, but, I'm sure it end with .10
[14:35] <grendal_prime> anyone here use nagios?
[14:35] <aetas> jnsl_, can you try and sudo ssh (not sshfs) into that server with the same line and tell me what it does?
[14:35] <jpds> grendal_prime: #ubuntu-server might be a better place to ask.
[14:35] <faLUCE> Lasers: autokey was for another question
[14:35] <grendal_prime> we got this guy that is continually dinking around with various monitoring apps.
[14:35] <grendal_prime> ok thanks
[14:35] <wols> thrillERboy: packages.ubuntu.com knows
[14:35] <jnsl_> aetas permission denied public key
[14:35] <dr_willis> sudo ssh? im not sure that will work
[14:35] <shomon> how do I get apache to automatically load index.htm files when it gets to directories without an index.html?
[14:36] <jnsl_> so sudo dosent have the same key as my user
[14:36] <aetas> jnsl_, bingo, there you go.  you have public key security setup but root doesn't have the public key that you gave your user
[14:36] <aetas> fix that problem and it should work fine
[14:36] <Lasers> faLUCE: Was autokey what you were looking for?
[14:36] <aetas> it should be in your ~/.ssh/known_hosts  you can just copy it from that user
[14:37] <jnsl_> ok, i ask dumb now but is it ok to give sudo my ssh keys?
[14:37] <aetas> what do you mean?
[14:38] <aetas> it just puts them in root's known_hosts files and is probably more secure than having them in your user actually
[14:38] <jnsl_> okay i will try that, thanks :)
[14:38] <aetas> np :)
[14:39] <BluebirdShao> somebody can tell me how to smooth my display font.
[14:39] <tsimpson> shomon: it should be load index.htm if it can't index.html (and some other extensions)
[14:39] <shomon> I thought that too
[14:39] <BluebirdShao> how to configure the font in linux.
[14:39] <shomon> it loads the directory listing
[14:39] <tsimpson> shomon: do you have the "dir" module enabled?
[14:40] <shomon> no idea.. will check...
[14:40] <tsimpson> shomon: you should have /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dir.load if you do
[14:40] <BluebirdShao> somebody?
[14:40] <elijah> Would it be bad to use the dd command with a block size of 64m ???
[14:41] <shomon> thanks tsimpson will check
[14:41] <elijah> dd is just so slow with the default bs=512
[14:41] <dr_willis> elijah: once you get over 4mb i think you see no gain and may loose speed
[14:42] <dr_willis> i thought default was 1k
[14:42] <elijah> I am getting 9MBps with dd running at bs=512, both drives are on esata and can handle way more than that.
[14:42] <dr_willis> bs=2048 is about all i use
[14:42] <jaaaaaaaaaaack> hi people, i have a question.Am i banana?
[14:42] <aetas> lol
[14:42] <elijah> dr_willis: Do you know what badwidth you get when you use bs=2048?
[14:43] <dr_willis> there is a point od dim inishing returns with b==
[14:43] <Titanoboa4> hi
[14:43] <p33> ./configure && make of ffgtk gives error: "no capi20 found". How to solve this ??
[14:43] <dr_willis> elijah: im always using it for usb. so thats my bottleneck i imagine
[14:43] <elijah> dr_willis: Is it bad or less accurate to use a larger block size?
[14:43] <E3D3> How can I make archives when right-clicking in/on a directory with Dolpin ?
[14:43] <wols> p33: is there any capi library in ubuntu?
[14:43] <aetas> p33, don't you think you should start with "apt-cache search capi20" ?
[14:43] <dr_willis> elijah: i recall over 4mb is pointless. from my research ages ago
[14:44] <aetas> dr_willis, I imagine it would depend on the system you run it on
[14:44] <aetas> ewww browser IRC
[14:44] <elijah> dr_willis: Hmm, using bs=16m bumped it to 16MBps but bumping it to bs=32m still keeps it at 16 MBps
[14:45] <elijah> dd is just slow on this machine, something has to be a bottleneck
[14:45] <p33> wols, aetas, downloaded libcapi from here: http://tabos.org/ffgtk/download.php
[14:45] <p33> and compiled into ffgtk/libcapi/
[14:45] <aetas> p33, its in apt...why?
[14:45] <wols> p33: that's now what you were asked or told to do
[14:45] <BluebirdShao> is there anyone here who experts linux font. I wanna configure it.
[14:46] <aetas> use your package manager first or you're going to likely screw your system up if you install something you shouldn't have
[14:46] <dr_willis> BluebirdShao:  clarify the problem/question
[14:46] <p33> aetas: because it's written here http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FritzBox/ffgtk/Kompilieren
[14:46] <NoReGreT> i'm having trouble with suspending the system, it just freezes with a black screen, so i read somehwere to use "acpitool", that worked by suspending, but waking up is failing with the same black screen, any solutions? i'm on HP DV6 with dual GPUs [Lucid]
[14:47] <BluebirdShao> dr_willis: how to install a new font in linux and then is there need to configure it.
[14:47] <p33> can't I just bind the ffgtk/libokapi into ffgtk?? cause for sudo, I ll have to wait ...
[14:47] <aetas> p33, be careful with instructions on websites that don't contain dates, but ok
[14:47] <Sterile> When I try to install Empathy, I get "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" and a  list of packages... how to I fix that??
[14:47] <p33> date: 13. Juli 2011 um 13:16 Uhr
[14:48] <mang0> Have any of you guys used ableton live with ubuntu 11.04?
[14:48] <aetas> do you not have root access to this system?
[14:48] <p33> not right now
[14:48] <p33> ...
[14:48] <p33> in some hours yes, but would like to install it now
[14:48] <dr_willis> BluebirdShao: i just copy mine to .fonts dir for my user
[14:48] <dr_willis> 1fonts
[14:49] <Titanoboa4> im trying to install ubuntu for the first time and at like 70% a popup says "Bootloader install failed. Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location." Then my options are to 1.choose a different device to install the bootloader on. 2.continue without a bootloader. 3. cancel the installation. obviously i want the first option but idk how.
[14:49] <dr_willis> !fonts
[14:49] <aetas> give it a try then but understand it may complicate things down the road....atleast you probably don't have permission to any directories it might hurt though
[14:49] <dr_willis> brb. lunch
[14:49] <wols> p33: "bind"?
[14:49] <aetas> it likely won't break anything in the least
[14:50] <wols> p33: what does your configure log say?
[14:50] <aetas> I think he means link but you can't never tell
[14:50] <wols> aetas: btw, he cannot use the libcapi20 in ubuntu
[14:50] <p33> wols: "No package 'capi20' found. Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[14:50] <p33> installed software in a non-standard prefix."
[14:51] <aetas> you mean the one in the package manager or the one from that site?
[14:51] <wols> p33: that's not what is in the log is (or at least there is a lot more)
[14:51] <p33> on the site
[14:51] <wols> aetas: he cannot use libcapi20 from the repos
[14:51] <Titanoboa4> anyone know?
[14:52] <aetas> interesting....just looked
[14:52] <BluebirdShao> dr_willis: in my home dir, i just found .fontconfig, may be it is.
[14:52] <wols> p33: I'd suggest you go to ircnet in channel #fritzbox but your choice
[14:52] <dr_willis> BluebirdShao:  make a .fonts
[14:52] <phper_> good evening
[14:52] <phper_> many thanks
[14:52] <phper_> bye
[14:52] <aetas> wols, whats the problem with libcapi20-3?
[14:52] <BluebirdShao> dr_willis: well, i will take a try.
[14:52] <p33> wols: http://pastebin.de/17861
[14:53] <p33> wols: #fritzbox is empty
[14:53] <dr_willis> mkdir .fonts    cp foo.ttf .fonts
[14:53] <wols> aetas: this is for a special german router not for some usual linux software using capi
[14:53] <aetas> p33, yeah its trying to run capi20 command and doesnt find it so it shows that
[14:53] <wols> p33: no it's not. I said ircnet
[14:53] <antivirtel> hello! I want to backup my mails to a CD. I've used Thunderbird. What is the best format of e-mails to bacup that to a CD?
[14:54] <aetas> wols, can you read german?
[14:54] <wols> aetas: I am german
[14:54] <Titanoboa4> hi.  im trying to install ubuntu for the first time and at like 70% a popup says "Bootloader install failed. Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location." Then my options are to 1.choose a different device to install the bootloader on. 2.continue without a bootloader. 3. cancel the installation. obviously i want the first option but idk how. any ideas?
[14:54] <aetas> wols, so yes? ;)
[14:54] <wols> aetas: and I have the same router
[14:54] <aetas> haha
[14:55] <TBotNik> Thanks to all who helped me recover my internet last night!
[14:55] <wols> aetas: same family, but that small difference isn't relevant
[14:55] <shomon> oh so you're the guy who took my internet!
[14:55] <Titanoboa4> or at least direct me to a good site for help
[14:55] <aetas> Titanoboa4, can you give us an overview of how you're installing?  What hard drive, if you have other OSes installed, etc?
[14:55] <Titanoboa4> sure
[14:56] <Titanoboa4> might take a min, typing on phone
[14:56] <aetas> wols, yeah Im working off a general knowledge, I couldn't read anythign on there unless I fed it through google translate
[14:56] <aetas> oh jeez
[14:56] <BluebirdShao> dr_willis: thanks, man.
[14:56] <gribouille> hi
[14:56] <wols> Titanoboa4: no internet access via live CD?
[14:56] <aetas> probably can't fix it while he talks to us
[14:56] <Titanoboa4> what do you mean?
[14:57] <aetas> Titanoboa4, as in boot an Ubuntu live cd and use IRC on that
[14:57] <wols> Titanoboa4: you have a ubuntu live cd. is there no network access with that?
[14:57] <gribouille> how can I know whether my system uses the proprietary drivers for my graphics card ?
[14:57] <Lasers> Psydoll: synaptic is GUI front-end.  aptitude is CLI front-end. So basically, aptitude (or apt-get) is a CLI version of synaptic.
[14:57] <wols> gribouille: glxinfo|less
[14:57] <arkanabar> Titanoboa4, if you're installing from an Ubuntu live environment, some menu somewhere should include a web browser and a chat program -- most likely Epiphany.
[14:58] <mystiqueba> hey guys, is there a ubuntu alternative to itunes?
[14:58] <gribouille> wols, glxinfo gives the following error : X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
[14:58] <mystiqueba> I have banshee but it doesn't come with already configured radio stations
[14:58] <wols> gribouille: then Xorg.0.log shows the driver name
[14:58] <Titanoboa4> i have no idea. i somehow managed to open control center, whatever that is
[14:59] <aetas> mystiqueba, apt-cache search shows rhythmbox, tried it?
[14:59] <wols> Titanoboa4: what is your normal internet connection (aside from your current mobile)?
[14:59] <Titanoboa4> 100mbit/s if thats what you mean
[14:59] <mystiqueba> aetas: does it come with music or do I have to search for them?
[14:59] <antivirtel> I want to backup my mails to a CD. I've used Thunderbird. What is the best format of e-mails to bacup that to a CD?
[15:00] <arkanabar> Titanoboa4, that's a configuration utility.  I'm fairly well lost in Ubuntu since they went to Unity, and use lubuntu, myself.
[15:00] <aetas> mystiqueba, you want something linked to something like the iTunes music store?
[15:00] <wols> Titanoboa4: I more mean how you connect your PC you install ubuntu on to the internet
[15:00] <kongo_86> question guys... how can i check the logs in my system... well more like what logs should i look at...
[15:00] <ciss> hi, i'm running into some serious issues with grub on ubuntu server lts 10.04.2. system hangs shortly after boot, no messages, no log entries. keyboard input gets drawn, though. if i rename /boot/grub/grub.cfg, i can at least get to the grub console.
[15:00] <kongo_86> my laptop ubuntu 10.04 x64 keeps freezing
[15:00] <mystiqueba> aetas:  yes.  or a system where I don't have to go looking for radio stations or places that already stream songs
[15:00] <kongo_86> completely locks up and i have to hard shutoff
[15:00] <wols> Titanoboa4: trying to determine if you can use the live CD to access the internet since you seem unable to know that yourself
[15:00] <ciss> how can i debug this further?
[15:01] <Titanoboa4> oh. burned a cd (ubuntu 11.04) from another computer and booted that
[15:01] <arkanabar> kongo_86, can you describe what you're doing when your laptop freezes?
[15:01] <wols> Titanoboa4: have a nice day
[15:01] <gribouille> wols, the log file says : "NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  260.19.06  Mon Sep 13 06:37:13 PDT 2010" and "NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs". is it ok?
[15:01] <Titanoboa4> wols: :o ?
[15:01] <wcchandler_work> After 1 week of solid use of Unity in my work environment...  I like it. :)  I'm definitely more efficient.
[15:01] <Titanoboa4> sorry for being so slow....
[15:01] <kongo_86> arkanabar: well this time i was running vmware workstation.. running BT5.. i have and i5 with 6GB RAM
[15:01] <wols> gribouille: so you are trying to use nvidia but messed it up somehow. "nvidia" is the proprietary driver
[15:02] <dualbootah> jello?
[15:02] <dualbootah> i installed wow but i cant find it
[15:02] <hichamat> I wonder if I can extract .zip file with gzip ?
[15:02] <gribouille> wols, why is it messed ?
[15:02] <dualbootah> where is the c:\programfiles folder in ubuntu
[15:02] <wols> gribouille: cause glxinfo doesn't work
[15:02] <arkanabar> kongo_86, next time, see if ctrl-alt-f1 will bring you to a console login.  if so, sudo init 6 will reboot you.
[15:02] <wols> dualbootah: does not exist
[15:03] <aetas> mystiqueba, may not be a perfect solution but have you tried iTunes under wine?
[15:03] <th0r> dualbootah: if you are running it in wine, then c drive is in ~/.wine
[15:03] <dualbootah> ok
[15:03] <dualbootah> wheres that tho
[15:03] <Titanoboa4> wols: if i continue without bootloader will i be able to access internet(thus irc) and add bootloader later?
[15:03] <wols> !fhs | dualbootah
[15:03] <gribouille> wols, I didn't do anything special. ubuntu messed it up by itself
[15:03] <dualbootah> wheres the ~/.wine
[15:03] <arkanabar> dualbootah, you have to enable show hidden files in your file manager.
[15:03] <heli> hi does anyone know how to runas in uuntu?
[15:03] <dualbootah> ooh ok
[15:03] <heli> sudo  runs as root
[15:03] <dualbootah> i cant find the show hidden files tho
[15:03] <wols> Titanoboa4: we cannot know. you will be able to boot from live cd and install the bootloader. but if you can use internet from that depends on how you access the internet
[15:03] <aetas> mystiqueba, yeah it looks like ryhthmbox has a store attached to it
[15:03] <arkanabar> dualbootah, then it is in /home/yourusername/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[15:03] <heli> but if I want run program as  other user
[15:03] <kongo_86> arkanabar: i tried it all the way tru f12
[15:04] <Pici> heli: sudo -u otherusername
[15:04] <kongo_86> its just completely locks up
[15:04] <dualbootah> the .wine is hidden
[15:04] <wols> heli: sudo can run as any other user too
[15:04] <dualbootah> i need to unhdie it but idk how
[15:04] <TBotNik> antivirtel: Haven't done that, use migration assistant for backup and sync, but think there is a backkup and/or export add-in, so check there.
[15:04] <Titanoboa4> wols: well yeah i can access internet
[15:04] <wols> dualbootah: you can't. and you don't need to either
[15:04] <arkanabar> kongo_86, yeah, obviously it does.  I'm gonna guess you can't even change your capslock setting.
[15:04] <gribouille> wols, how can I solve the problem?
[15:04] <gilrez> hello everyone!
[15:04] <dualbootah> wols its not there it must be hidden
[15:04] <mystiqueba> aetas:  ok, I'll install it now and see
[15:04] <lostcowboy> Hello, I have this problem in 10.04 where on the login screen/gdm when switching users or from a fresh start/restart has half the screen as black with a magnified mouse of a sorts, and also, it accepts my password and authenticates, yet throws me back to the login after doing so about 3 times before finally letting me into my desktop. What gives?
[15:05] <kongo_86> arkanabar: ding ding NOPE!
[15:05] <fabianhjr> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an external 3TB drive. It fails at the end telling me it cannot install GRUB. After searching it has to do with the WD Advanced Format that is lying about being 512 sectors instead of 4K. Also during the installation it only shows me 1/8 of the capacity that is really there while Disk Utility shows me the "real" capacity.(11.04-Natty)
[15:05] <arkanabar> dualbootah, you will just have to go through every menu in your file manager.  I could tell you if it was PCManFM, but you're probably using nautilus
[15:05] <wols> Titanoboa4: then connect to the itnernet now instead from your phone and pastebin the output of fdisk -l
[15:05] <wdp> aetas, ok. i know now whats causing it.
[15:05] <dualbootah> oh i got it!
[15:05] <wols> Titanoboa4: rather, sudo fdisk -l
[15:05] <dualbootah> i just had to hit control h
[15:05] <aetas> Titanoboa4, it sounds like the install failed so you will likely need your LiveCD in there every boot basically
[15:05] <wols> wdp: what?
[15:05] <aetas> wdp, yay, what?
[15:05] <kongo_86> arkanabar: so are they any logs i can look at?
[15:05] <kongo_86> see what cause it
[15:05] <heli> ok ut when i use sudo -u username progam then i dont see gui
[15:05] <arkanabar> kongo_86, you've gone well past the limits of my knowledge.
[15:06] <wols> gribouille: dpkg -l |grep nvidia for a start
[15:06] <Titanoboa4> wols: well im inthe middle of the installation, how am i supposed to connect?
[15:06]  * arkanabar doesn't fool around with virtual machines.
[15:06] <heli> anyone know this?
[15:06] <dualbootah> you supposed to add some sort of opengl line to the wow config.wtf file for it to work on ubuntu graphics?
[15:06] <kongo_86> arkanabar: no prob!! thanks for your hlep
[15:06] <dualbootah> does anyone know what line it is
[15:06] <thrillERboy> aetas: I can't find my linux kernal? where can I find it?
[15:06] <aetas> wols, Im not sure hes actually on a live cd, this may be an actual install CD
[15:06] <arkanabar> dualbootah, go to http://ofwineandwarcraft.blogspot.com
[15:06] <wols> dualbootah: wow needs a commandline switch for opengl IIRC
[15:06] <wdp> aetas, i'm used to play fast paced ego shooters, so i'm having gaming-mouses from razer here. I changed the mouse polling rate to 1000hz (which is quite fine on my other box) and it causes 50% xorg cpu usage and 17% nautilus usage in ubuntu.. that made me think "wtf". However, on the back of my mouse is a switch for 1000hz and one for 125hz. i just put that switch to 125hz and all is fine. maximal cpu usage at xorg droped down to 8%
[15:07] <arkanabar> dualbootah, also, search "Linux" and "Wine" at wowhead and wowwik
[15:07] <wols> Titanoboa4: finish the install and come back with the live cd. we can then (hopefully) fix your bootloader
[15:07] <Titanoboa4> okay
[15:07] <Titanoboa4> will do
[15:07] <aetas> thrillERboy, ls /boot
[15:07] <wdp> aetas, and im still able to set the hz value in linux manually. No idea whether the mouse uses it, tho.
[15:07] <gribouille> wols, the installed packages are: nvidia-173-modaliases, nvidia-96-modaliases, nvidia-common, nvidia-current, nvidia-current-modaliases, nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-settings
[15:07] <dualbootah> i found a perfect link
[15:07] <dualbootah> ty
[15:07] <wdp> aetas, wols so basically.. even if it sounds totally weird, it was the mouse/usb's fault.
[15:07] <arkanabar> dualbootah, one more thing, check out WoW in appdb.winehq.org
[15:07] <wols> gribouille: what does Xorg.0.log say?
[15:08] <aetas> wdp, thats what I was thinking.  only reason I ran into this is because I have one too and I've had to change the windows polling rate for other mice in the past
[15:08] <wdp> thats quite weird, isn't it :>
[15:08] <thrillERboy> aetas: ls /boot returns a empty line :(
[15:08] <Titanoboa4> *arnold voice* i'll be back
[15:08] <wols> wdp: no. it's the usb/mouse driver's fault imho
[15:08] <aetas> you should be able to change the usb polling rate from the computer and override the mouse's though
[15:08] <aetas> thrillERboy, well thats a good sign
[15:08] <aetas> thrillERboy, hrm
[15:09] <wdp> yup did that. seems to work, and cpu usage is still at 5% when moving. So i guess theres something wrong with the driver or the mouse.
[15:09] <aetas> thrillERboy, can you run fdisk from within there?
[15:09] <Rotham> d/j #mises
[15:09] <gribouille> wols, a lot: it is 286 lines long
[15:09] <wdp> so well, next time someone comes with similar issues, ask em which  mouse they use heh.
[15:09] <wols> !tell gribouille about paste
[15:09] <yy> I have a question.. What can I do to restore deleted files on ext3 partition? I know the file name (nohup.out) and some of its content
[15:09] <thrillERboy> unknown command: fdisk
[15:10] <aetas> it can happen on any mice if they change the mouse poll rate, you can do it on normal mice too
[15:10] <wdp> just difficult to realize that. you're looking for a problem with xorg (your GRAPHICAL stuff) and it turns out it was the mouse.
[15:10] <thrillERboy> aetas: unknown command fdisk :(
[15:10] <gilrez> I was wounding if anyone would be able to help me or point me in the right direction! I installed XAMPP and mysql will not start. Need help!
[15:10] <wdp> however guys. Thanks a lot for your help. :)
[15:10] <aetas> thrillERboy, hold on a sec
[15:10] <thrillERboy> :)
[15:11] <aetas> wdp, np, glad you're fixed
[15:11] <wols> gilrez: installing xampp was your first mistake. remove ALL of it. install apache, php5 and mysql from ubuntu repos
[15:11] <aetas> thrillERboy, what about "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[15:11] <__kazador__> hola buenos dias
[15:11] <jaime_> hola
[15:11] <jaime_> muy buenas tardes
[15:11] <kongo_86> anyone else that can help
[15:12] <szal> !es | __kazador__, jaime_
[15:12] <mystiqueba> aetas: thanks for the recommendation.  Apparently, ryhtmbox was already installed - it just has way too few radio stations or free music... :(
[15:12] <gilrez> Thanks Wols I do that!
[15:12] <__kazador__> alguien usa LUBUNTU 11.04
[15:12] <thrillERboy> aetas: unknown command find
[15:12] <__kazador__> ok
[15:12] <aetas> mystiqueba, you can try iTunes under wine if you want, I run some applications under it successfully
[15:12] <kantor> Hello I have an ftp server (vsftpd) And I want to share two directories from two separate paths. I tried to do this with symbolic links but is not working. Is there any possibility to share directories from separate sources, paths?
[15:12] <jaime_> sorry
[15:13] <gribouille> wols, you can see the contents of Xorg.0.log at http://paste.ubuntu.com/650034/
[15:13] <aetas> thrillERboy, this is within the grub menu right?
[15:13] <wols> kantor: hard link?
[15:13] <kantor> wols, I wanted to create hard links, but the ln command tells me that hard links are not possible for directories
[15:14] <wols> gribouille: line 141 ff. you are missing nvidia's libglx
[15:14] <moesian> his is it possible to remove the password prompt for a specific user? I want to remove the prompt for the postgres user
[15:14] <mystiqueba> cool
[15:14] <aetas> thrillERboy, actually do "ls -l /"
[15:15] <gribouille> wols, what package should I install?
[15:15] <wols> kantor: check vsftpd config file if you can enable symlinks. tho they have been security holes in the past for ftp. do you REALLY need a ftp server? if so, what for?
[15:15] <jaime_> kantor hard links is posible, do you try make hard links in other filesystem ?
[15:15] <mystiqueba> aetas:  thanks again.  I'll try to install wine then
[15:15] <wols> gribouille: dpkg -l |grep nvidia  please pastebin the output this time
[15:15] <thrillERboy> aetas: "1270 wubildr.cfg" this is the only line that gets returned
[15:15] <gribouille> wols, ok
[15:16] <kantor> jaime_, wols I found a solution, bind mounts
[15:16] <engrxyz> anyone here for a hint on how to have a colored shell on ubuntu?
[15:16] <gribouille> wols, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/650038/
[15:16] <kantor> jaime_, this is the ln output if I try to make hard links to directories: ln: `/media/mydir/': hard link not allowed for directory
[15:17] <aetas> thrillERboy, Im wondering if your wubi files have gotton trashed
[15:17] <aetas> thrillERboy, can you replace those files in your win7 install?
[15:17] <thrillERboy> yes aetas I have access to those files from windows
[15:17] <thrillERboy> Hey anybody running ubuntu under wine? If so please check your ubuntu install directory, and tell what is inside "install" directory,
[15:18] <Daino> cè qualcuno per una info?
[15:18] <thrillERboy> aetas: inside my ubuntu/install/ directory I have only one huge file. .fuse_hidden0000000400000001
[15:18] <Pici> !it | Daino
[15:19] <Daino> ok sorry
[15:19] <thrillERboy> aetas: I guess ubuntu files got locked during bad shutdown somehow
[15:19] <aetas> thrillERboy, meaning your drive is gone?
[15:20] <aetas> thrillERboy, you still have your image right?
[15:20] <thrillERboy> I only have that one file.
[15:20] <aetas> thrillERboy, what about in just ubuntu dir?
[15:20] <thrillERboy> aetas: It should have all files inside it I guess
[15:20] <aetas> thrillERboy, no it installs it into an image file
[15:21] <gribouille> wols, do you see anything?
[15:21] <aetas> thrillERboy, can you grab the working_wubildr files from this thread?  try those but backup your current ones too
[15:21] <wols> gribouille: basically nvidia-current is installed and your glx module should be there fine. maybe reinstall it, apart from that I dunno
[15:21] <aetas> thrillERboy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1400608
[15:21] <thrillERboy> aetas: Inside ubuntu dir there are install/ Ubuntu.ico unistall-wubi.exe and winboot/
[15:21] <jaime_> kantor, it's true, but you can to try with this options: -d, -F, --directory
[15:21] <jaime_> kantor, it's true, but you can to try with this options: -d, -F, --directory
[15:21] <aetas> thrillERboy, hrm
[15:22] <jaime_> sorry i'm repeat
[15:23] <gribouille> wols, can all the nvidia drivers be installed with apt-get?
[15:23] <szal> gribouille: all supported versions, yes
[15:25] <aetas> thrillERboy, is that fuse_hidden file the size of a CD or DVD?
[15:27] <aetas> all quiet on the #ubuntu front
[15:27] <gribouille> wols, I reinstalled nvidia-current, but there are errors
[15:28] <szal> gribouille: what errors?
[15:28] <thrillERboy> yes aetas its 685MB
[15:28] <__kazador__> hey
[15:28] <__kazador__> alguien habla SPANISH
[15:28] <Pici> !es | __kazador__
[15:28] <szal> __kazador__: not here
[15:29] <gribouille> szal, update-alternatives: avertissement: création de /usr/lib32/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 abandonnée car le fichier associé /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/vdpau/libvdpau_nvidia.so.1 (du groupe de liens gl_conf) n'existe pas.
[15:29] <gribouille> /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/ is empty
[15:29] <aetas> thrillERboy, Im really sorry man but if you can't find your image which I hear should be in C:\ubuntu\disks then I think you're at a standstill.  I would try a Windows NTFS restore program to see if it can locate your disk files and restore them
[15:30] <wols> gribouille: LANG=C <apt-get command to reinstall nvidia drivers>   that will give us english error messages
[15:30] <szal> gribouille: then you clearly did something wrong
[15:30] <szal> gribouille: e.g. not running w/ privileges (though that should've aborted earlier in the process)
[15:31] <gribouille> szal, I just removed the package and reinstalled it
[15:31] <thrillERboy> Okey aetas Thanks, So my disk image should be inside C:\ubuntu\disks right?
[15:31] <wols> gribouille: have you ever had drivers from nvidia.com installed?
[15:31] <gribouille> wols, I don't think so. why?
[15:32] <szal> gribouille: btw, what card are we talking about?
[15:32] <aetas> thrillERboy, yeah...your best bet is to try the NTFS restore which I have gotten to successfully restore files before, especially if its not been that long since it went missing.  after that do a chkdsk on that drive as well
[15:32] <gribouille> szal, nVidia Corporation G84 [Quadro FX 370]
[15:34] <Olotila> WHere can I find audio or video tutorials for ubuntu?
[15:34] <xangua> Olotila: youtube¿
[15:34] <Olotila> so that I can listen to them for example in car?
[15:34] <thrillERboy> Thanks a ton aetas. You're super helpful. I already have a few filerecovery programs on my desktop, will also try NTFS Restore. Thanks a ton. I can't thank you enough :)
[15:36] <aetas> thrillERboy, I wish I had a better answer for you but usually a bad restart doesn't do that much harm these days so I think a restoration will be successful atleast.  If it restores but doesn't boot, you can atleast pull the files out of it
[15:36] <Olotila> going through youtube atm, but any other sites/sources`?
[15:36] <thrillERboy> aetas: you means windows system restore?
[15:37] <aetas> thrillERboy, NTFS restore that image, then you can probably mount/open it with something and get your files even if it won't boot
[15:37] <chriswr> anyone know if adobe flash is in the repos?
[15:37] <szal> !flash | chriswr
[15:38] <szal> !ping
[15:38] <gribouille> wols, you can see the installation of nvidia-current in english here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650055/
[15:38] <Biaxs76> buona sera a tutti voi
[15:38] <szal> !flash
[15:38] <thrillERboy> Okey going to try it. I'm browsing from cafe and have my laptop with me. Now I have to move. Thanks a ton. aetas bye bye :)
[15:38] <Biaxs76> buona sera
[15:38] <szal> chriswr: see here
[15:38] <aetas> thrillERboy, np, best of luck
[15:38] <szal> !it | Biaxs76
[15:38] <chriswr> szal, thnx
[15:39] <Biaxs76> #sesso
[15:39] <Biaxs76> ciao qualcuno parla italiano
[15:39] <wols> !it
[15:39] <szal> Biaxs76: clean your glasses & go to #ubuntu-it
[15:39] <Biaxs76> god bay
[15:40] <chriswr> k should i use .tar.gz , .rpm , or apt?
[15:40] <wols> chriswr: for what?
[15:40] <chriswr> wols,  to install adobe
[15:40] <szal> chriswr: did you actually read the link ubottu gave you?
[15:41] <chriswr> szal, it wouldnt pop up for me , ill try again though if theres an ezier way
[15:41] <gribouille> wols, did you see the messages ?
[15:41] <szal> chriswr: what wouldn't pop up?
[15:42] <gbear14275> Hello, I'm trying to get usb tethering working with an android phone and have been having problems.  Has anyone possibly got this working?  The phone shows a wired connection labeled HTC android phone but it is greyed out.  I'm on 11.04 and an htc sensation 4g
[15:42] <gbear14275> I already checked in android and they recommended asking here
[15:43] <wols> gribouille: you run ubuntu 10.10, right?
[15:43] <geekbri> My crontab seems to have just stopped working,  Valid entries just seem to not run at all.  Also if i try to use */1 * * * * it says bad minute in the logs... very odd.
[15:43] <aetas> gbear14275, so you're trying to let your ubuntu use your phone's internet?
[15:43] <gribouille> wols, yes
[15:44] <wols> gribouille: cant really see why it errors. maybe google the erroring lines from your Xorg.0.log, dunno
[15:45] <hoshi> anyone know what apt-get and deb packages are for arch and gentoo and openSUSE are?
[15:45] <gribouille> wols, and the warnings displayed by apt-get ?
[15:45] <gimpy1382> How would I get my extra mouse buttons to work like keyboard shortcuts?
[15:45] <hoshi> I know fedora and redhat uses rpm
[15:46] <wols> gribouille: warnings. not relevant to your problem. they're about HDTV acceleration, not 3D support
[15:46] <szal> hoshi: we don't support neither Arch nor Gentoo nor openSUSE nor Fedora nor Red Hat..  you can try asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic though
[15:46] <gbear14275> aetas: yes.  through USB.  Wireless tethering is working but I'd like to see if I can get the USB tethering workin
[15:46] <gribouille> wols, ok
[15:46] <szal> hoshi: or you could browse DistroWatch & get a clue
[15:46] <xangua> hoshi: or in the respective distro's channel
[15:47] <elzoog> Hey guys.   I can't install this game that I bought through the ubuntu store
[15:47] <aetas> gbear14275, one sec, looking at it
[15:47] <gbear14275> thank you aetas
[15:48] <aetas> gbear14275, your phone is rooted?
[15:48] <szal> elzoog: define 'can't install'; define 'this game'; state *buntu version and package format
[15:49] <gbear14275> aetas: no I'm sorry not yet.  Sensation 4g is an HTC one that is relatively new... no root yet
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: which version of android?
[15:50] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: 2.3.3
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: i believe there is a 3g tethering app available
[15:50] <aetas> he wants usb
[15:50] <elzoog> szal, "can't install" means that if I try to install it, the progress bar will go back and forth while occasionally bringing up an "updating cache" progress bar.   This will continue for a long time until an error occurs.
[15:51] <aetas> it doesnt help that he doesnt even know what game this is
[15:51] <szal> elzoog: define 'an error'
[15:51] <elzoog> szal  The name of the game is Braid
[15:51] <gbear14275> aetas: game?
[15:51] <aetas> gbear14275, someone else
[15:52] <wols> elzoog: appdb.winehq.org
[15:52] <szal> !away > LittleFool`off
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2009/08/28/tethering-an-android-phone-to-ubuntu-without-jailbreaking-or-installing-applications
[15:52] <xangua> wols: software centre game
[15:52] <szal> wols: how can you be sure that it needs Wine to run?
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> gbear14275: uif it's not that smooth: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Tether-an-Android-Phone-Using-Proxoid
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | szal
[15:53] <howlymowly> hi poeple.. for some reason my repositories are not correctly authenicated anymore..  it always says "Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security.
[15:53] <howlymowly> You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that
[15:53] <howlymowly> this is what you want to do.
[15:53] <howlymowly> "  That message started just recently and because of it I also can not use the ubuntu software-center anymore
[15:53] <FloodBot1> howlymowly: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:53] <elzoog> Okay, now it did something different.   Now it began a download progress bar.   Rather than babysit it, I decided to chat here.   After going back to the Ubuntu Software Center it is now not doing anything while the "install" button is on.
[15:53] <howlymowly> sorry FloodBot1 :)  I did not intent to ...
[15:53] <aetas> gbear14275, what android version is this?
[15:54] <szal> ActionParsnip: does the Ubuntu Store (whatever that is..) sell Windows games?
[15:54] <gbear14275> ActionParsnip: have looked at that don't have a "Mobile network sharing" option
[15:54] <gbear14275> aetas: 2.3.3
[15:54] <wols> szal: cause it was originally a Xbox, then Windows and PS3 game. didn't know it was ported since then
[15:54] <wols> elzoog: install it via apt-get not software center
[15:55] <wols> elzoog: and then show us the full output of your apt-get run
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> szal: dont believe so, although so some games do run natively, Warzone2100 used to be a windows game and has been ported :)
[15:55] <elzoog> wols What's the command to install it via apt-get?
[15:55] <szal> wols: apt-get doesn't install local pkgs, iirc
[15:56] <Zorgs> Hi all
[15:56] <wols> elzoog: then use dpkg -i to install it
[15:56] <xangua> ........
[15:56] <gbear14275> aetas: ActionParsnip:  ifconfig doesn't list auto usb0 although it is listed under the edit connections option in the networking indicator... how do I look at that with command line?
[15:56] <szal> elzoog: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/your/packagename.deb
[15:56] <wols> gbear14275: ifconfig -a
[15:57] <szal> elzoog: then pastebin EVERYTHING, including the command you entered
[15:57] <gbear14275> wols: thank you
[15:57] <gbear14275> wols: would ifup usb0 work?
[15:57] <Zorgs> Can Ubuntu 11.04 run a 64-bit system
[15:57] <Zorgs> ?
[15:57] <xangua> Zorgs: yes
[15:57] <ThinkT510> Zorgs: yes, there is 64 bit version available
[15:57] <edbian> Zorgs: yes
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Zorgs: do you mean a VIRTUAL system?
[15:58] <elzoog> I don't have aa .deb to install
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Zorgs: or do you mean "is there a 64bit version of 11.04"?
[15:58] <mystiqueba> hey guys, what does an @ at the end of a filename mean?
[15:58] <ikonia> mystiqueba: nothing
[15:58] <Zorgs> No, I mean replace my Win7 with ubuntu
[15:58] <wols> gbear14275: only if it's configured via /etc/network/interfaces
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Zorgs: yes you can do that, there is a 64bit version of Ubuntu
[15:58] <mystiqueba> ok what about * at the end of a name?
[15:58] <ikonia> mystiqueba: nothing
[15:58] <mystiqueba> hmm...
[15:59] <elzoog> Ok, now it gives me the following error   "Failed to fetch https://elzoog:4sg93890Vxv4tqQWjTQj@private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/braid/ubuntu/pool/main/b/braid/braid_1.0.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb SSL connection timeout at 117938
[15:59] <elzoog> "
[15:59] <ThinkT510> mystiqueba: * means all files
[15:59] <mystiqueba> ikonia, what's the difference between a blue colored file and a light green colored one
[15:59] <edbian> Zorgs: yeah why not?
[15:59] <wols> szal: didn't you say "local package"?
[15:59] <mystiqueba> or what is the significance of the file colors?
[15:59] <ikonia> mystiqueba: permissions
[15:59] <gbear14275> wols: hmm... wonder if configuring it as a regular usb wired connection would work...  brb
[15:59] <ThinkT510> mystiqueba: eg: /ect/* means all files under /etc/
[16:00] <szal> wols: well, he didn't say that it was on a PPA
[16:00] <ikonia> mystiqueba: or file type, eg: a directoy, a fiole
[16:00] <ikonia> file
[16:00] <ikonia> mystiqueba: different distributions use "dircolors" (that's what it's called) to represent different things
[16:00] <szal> elzoog: 'sudo apt-get install braid' <- that should do
[16:01] <Dori922> [16:43] <Dori922> hey dudes run into a snag, i've installed UEC on a machine without VT so im installing XEN using this guide [16:43] <Dori922> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Install%20from%20packages%20%28recommended%29 [16:44] <Dori922> im at step 2 now and it says "cd <src> #check out the 'xen/master' default branch #check out the latest xen/stable branch" [16:44] <Dori922> not seeing those files
[16:01] <Dori922> :)
[16:01] <aetas> gbear14275, it should just be a  standard usb wired connection
[16:01] <szal> elzoog: and while you're at it, also pastebin 'lsb_release -a'
[16:01] <Zorgs> How easy is it to transfer? seing as I use loads of windows programs atm
[16:01] <ikonia> Dori922: you're going to be wasting your time without BT
[16:01] <ikonia> VT
[16:01] <gbear14275> anyone have any good usb wired connection howto's... googling but was just checking if anyone had any on hand
[16:01] <Dori922> its test
[16:01] <Dori922> company wont give me anything else
[16:01] <ikonia> Dori922: it's not a valid test
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Zorgs: there are equivelants, some may run in wine
[16:02] <aetas> gbear14275, just configure usb0 like you would eth0 in the interfaces file
[16:02] <gbear14275> aetas: been a while... normally it just works
[16:03] <gbear14275> brb
[16:03] <Dori922> ikonia: im just learning it atm  so making do with what i have, i though XEM could be used as hypervisor instead of KVM without VT-x?
[16:03] <aetas> gbear14275, should just be dhcp I'd imagine
[16:03] <ikonia> Dori922: it can't be it won't be usable
[16:03] <mystiqueba> ikonia, thanks
[16:03] <ikonia> Dori922: and the process of setting it up is totally different from a real world use senario
[16:04] <Zorgs> I remember in ubuntu 10.** I spent about 1 hour to get World of Warcraft to work. Might I experience that again?
[16:04] <ikonia> Zorgs: possible
[16:04] <alex--> Who can help me with my server?
[16:04] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[16:04] <ThinkT510> !server | alex--
[16:04] <elzoog> Okay, apt-get seems to be working so far.   Taking a long time though and I don't want to babysit it.   Going to do something else while I wait
[16:04] <dualbootah> right when i load up wow and get into the game and take a few steps i get wow.exe has encountered serious error
[16:04] <dualbootah> right when i load up wow and get into the game and take a few steps i get wow.exe has encountered serious error
[16:05] <alex--> ThinkT510: i meant mta server
[16:05] <alex--> i got a problem
[16:05] <Pici> !appdb | dualbootah
[16:05] <Pici> !ask | alex--
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Zorgs: i'd ask in #winehq  there is a very detailed how to on the appdb for world of warcraft
[16:05] <dualbootah> it is supported
[16:05] <Zorgs> Oh well, will have to install side by side and check it out then atleast to begin with... Thanks for the help guys.
[16:05] <alex--> -bash: ./mta-server: Permission denied
[16:05] <dualbootah> right when i load up wow and get into the game and take a few steps i get wow.exe has encountered serious error
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> alex--: it the file marked as executable?
[16:05] <alex--> yes
[16:05] <Dori922> ikonia:  so KVM has to be used no matter what? im new to Ubuntu server so learning commands and trying to follow the various guides
[16:05] <st47> dualbootah: stop repeating yourself
[16:05] <alex--> chmod +x mta-server
[16:05] <elzoog> Is it okay if I ask if it's okay to ask a question?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dualbootah: check the appdb, there is a very detailed how to, you may need wine 1.3
[16:06] <Pici> dualbootah: That is not supported in this channel. Either look through the appdb yourself or ask in #winehq
[16:06] <dualbootah> i think i have wine 1.3
[16:06] <lesshaste> ubufox gives me an update when I do apt-get upgrade
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> elzoog: if you have a question, just ask
[16:06] <alex--> i did chmod =x again ActionParsnip , but now i get Segmentation fault
[16:06] <ikonia> Dori922: ok 1.) kvm doesn't have to be used, but no-one will not be using it. 2.) if you're new to ubuntu starting with UEC is not a good idea/learning experience as it's quite complex
[16:06] <dualbootah> to update wine do i do sudo apt-get wine
[16:06] <lesshaste> I get dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ubufox_0.9.1-0ubuntu0.10.04.1~mfn3_all.deb (--unpack):
[16:06] <lesshaste>  trying to overwrite '/etc/xul-ext/ubufox.js', which is also in package xul-ext-ubufox 0:0.9-0ubuntu1~mfs~lucid1
[16:06] <lesshaste> is this a known problem?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/ubufox_0.9.1-0ubuntu0.10.04.1~mfn3_all.deb
[16:07] <lesshaste> sounds brutal :)
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: then run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[16:07] <ikonia> !info ubufox
[16:07] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, that sounds a little dangerous to me
[16:07] <alex--> ActionParsnip: i did chmod +x again, now i have segmentation fault
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: also log a bug to let people know there is a file conflict
[16:07] <Dori922> ikonia: yeah i keep running into problems, mostly hardware mind you, but its my job, cant tell the boss that im not doing it :D
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: there is a file in 2 packages and the package system doesn't like that. The force command tells it not to care. You need to log a bug
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> alex--: thats all I know
[16:08] <ikonia> Dori922: not being rude, but the project you are doing it a total waste
[16:08] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, ok.. thanks. It is surprising as I have a more or less vanilla lucid install
[16:08] <gbear14275> wow... ok so I guess I didn't try enough and fell suspect to my assumptions
[16:08] <lesshaste> thanks though
[16:08] <alex--> ActionParsnip: how to mark it as executable?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> alex--: chmod +x file   also make sure your user is either the owner, or a in the group which has group ownership
[16:09] <gbear14275> turns out when selecting the USB tethering option I have two choices.  Windows or Mac osx... I assumed and was choosing Mac OSX assuming it would be more closely matched... well... turns out it doesn't work (hence me asking)... but chose the windows option for kicks... and worked immidiately
[16:09] <alex--> ActionParsnip: i did
[16:09] <Dori922> ikonia: nah dude its awesome, i really appreciate you telling me this :D so your suggesting getting new hardware in to run the UEC with KVM instead of running UEC with XEN?
[16:09] <alex--> now i get segmentation fault
[16:09] <alex--> when i run it
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> alex--: what is the app?
[16:09] <alex--> mta-server
[16:10] <gbear14275> so... there's my lesson learned.  aetas ActionParsnip thanks for your time sorry I kinda wasted it
[16:10] <ikonia> Dori922: Xen is a dead in relation to now more advanced technologies such as kvm
[16:10] <wols> Dori922: what is UEC?
[16:10] <alex--> ActionParsnip: mta-server
[16:10] <ikonia> wols: enterprise cloud
[16:10] <wols> on a machine without VT? what server comes without VT?
[16:10] <Dori922> wols: Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud, its Ubuntu Server with Eucalyptus cloud features
[16:10] <Pici> ActionParsnip: In the future, I don't think you should suggest using the tactic you just did to fix a dpkg issue.  Using --force-all can be dangerous.  Also, I don't even see those package versions in Lucid, so something weird is going on.
[16:11] <ikonia> wols: running it on any sort of home kit without shared storage, interconnects etc etc is a pointless exercise
[16:11] <wols> Pici: "can be"? it is dangerous, period
[16:11] <night> #list
[16:11] <night> help
[16:12] <szal> !list | night
[16:12] <Dori922> wols: ikonia: we have and i7 cpu that was meant to have vt for the front end(node is just a random spare pc) but it doesnt support vt (using test commands tells me this) so blah
[16:12] <ikonia> i7 cpu that dosn't support VT - I very much doubt that
[16:12] <wols> Dori922: can you tell us what /proc/cpuinfo says what i7 it is?
[16:13] <wols> ikonia: there is always BIOS tho
[16:13] <ikonia> probably just disabled in the bios
[16:13] <ikonia> wols: too slow ;)
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Pici: gotcha
[16:14] <Dori922> wols: ikonia  i couldent find any bios options for vt/visualization/virtualization etc..
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Pici: http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/ubuntu-update-error-with-firefox/ ;)
[16:14] <Dori922> wols:  what do you want from cpuinfo? have it open on server now(dont have gui installed on uec)
[16:15] <wols> Dori922: cpu model name "i7 blah blah"
[16:15] <Dori922> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.400GHz
[16:15] <wols> but apart from maybe laptop I7's, all should have VT
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> wols: might not be enabled in BIOS
[16:16] <chriswr> hey guys im trying to get on runescape and i installed adobe now and the latest openjdk but still get the grey block saying missing plugins , im thinking i might have to have sun java but have no clue on how to install
[16:16] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Thats Natty, and those package versions are out of date, this may have been fixed already.
[16:16] <ThinkT510> wols: even laptops would have vt mine is a i5 and i had to enable it in the bios
[16:16] <szal> !java | chriswr
[16:17] <freyr> - -#
[16:17] <wols> Dori922: that one has vt and lots of other things besides :)  what mobo is it?
[16:18] <szal> Dori922: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:18] <wols> szal: he already did
[16:19] <Dori922> wols: ikonia or could it be because the node has some shitty pent 3/4 processor that the KVM isnt called("error: internal error no supported architecture for OS type 'hvm' (code=1)" and "Hypervisor failed to start")
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> p4 ain't shitty
[16:20] <h00k> !language
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> my bad
[16:21] <Dori922> sorry second node has P3, current node im working on has AMD Sempron 2200
[16:21] <zero_errfa> need some help with a hard drive instalation
[16:21] <wols> Dori922: same for purposes of VT IIRC :)
[16:22] <Dori922> *frustrated so hating all hardware atm :P*
[16:22] <edbian> zero_errfa: Can you be more specific?  You plug it in and turn the machine on.
[16:22] <alex--> Can I make some kind of cloud
[16:22] <alex--> Of my old computers?
[16:23] <ikonia> alex--: to do what
[16:23] <zero_errfa> edbian : i've got a server running out of space, i've tried to install a sata 2tb hd, but when i boot it up, grub appears, but then a error happen
[16:23] <Dori922> wols: i meant AMD sempron 2200, P3 is in the other pc they gave me with 200~mb ram :o
[16:23] <alex--> more performance
[16:23] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[16:23] <szal> zero_errfa: define 'a error'
[16:23] <ikonia> alex--: on home hardware, you won't get any benifit, in most cases it will reduce performance
[16:23] <edbian> zero_errfa: What is the error?
[16:23] <alex--> which hardware?
[16:23] <wols> Dori922: and I meant sempron or P3 both lack VT :)
[16:24] <alexleon> ppl what the best way to download songs on ubuntu?
[16:24] <zero_errfa> that's the problem, i can only gave the error message in the end of work day, cuz it's a server running ldap, cant shut it down
[16:24] <KM0201> alexleon: frostwire, torrents.. same way you do w/ 'doze
[16:24] <ikonia> alexleon: go to a music site, purchase tham and download them
[16:24] <Dori922> wols:  ooh key i get ya
[16:24] <wols> alexleon: a cloud is by definition, always more than one computer
[16:24] <szal> alexleon: buy from your favourite vendor
[16:24] <ikonia> KM0201: please doln't recommened illegal activities
[16:24] <alex--> wols: you meant me?
[16:24] <zero_errfa> its like it the grub doesn't find where to boot, it runs grub, but doesn't find the system
[16:25] <KM0201> ikonia: just because you use frostwire/torrent, doesn't mean its necessarily illegal.. there's a lot of "free" music on both
[16:25] <wols> alex--: sorry yes I meant you
[16:25] <ikonia> KM0201: that's not the most realistic situation though
[16:25] <alex--> i said
[16:25] <alex--> computers
[16:25] <wols> zero_errfa:sudo  fdisk -l
[16:25] <alex--> that's more than 1 :P
[16:25] <Dori922> wols:  ikonia : maybe if i install the front end and the NC on one pc to play with.. problem is current front end only has 1ethernet so i cant bridge...
[16:25] <KM0201> ikonia: well, i can't be his moral compassw
[16:25] <KM0201> *compass
[16:25] <alexleon> all right frostwire :D
[16:25] <zero_errfa> wols : it doesn't run the prompt, neither in secure mode
[16:26] <ikonia> KM0201: agreed
[16:27] <wols> zero_errfa: are you IRCing from the same computer that has this problem?
[16:27] <zero_errfa> wols : no
[16:27] <wols> zero_errfa: then put in in a ubuntu live cd and run the fdisk command
[16:27] <zero_errfa> wols : the computer that has the problem is a server, that i can't shutdown while people in the company still working
[16:28] <wols> zero_errfa: you cannot get onto the server at all?
[16:28] <edbian> zero_errfa: How did you install a hDD on a machine you can't shut down?
[16:28] <zero_errfa> wols : i have access to the server, but can't shut it down
[16:28] <edbian> zero_errfa: Additionally you said that with the hdd in you can't boot becuase you get stuck at grub?
[16:28] <zero_errfa> edbian : when everbody leaves the comapany
[16:28] <wols> zero_errfa: are you hotplugging that harddisk?
[16:28] <wols> zero_errfa: can you ssh to that server right now?
[16:29] <zero_errfa> wols : yes, but i've removed the new hd, becaus every time i plug it, the system doesn't boot, grub appears, show debian normal and security mode , but when i select one of then, the system crashs
[16:30] <gribouille> wols, I managed to fix the problem with glx. now, I have another problem : the screen resolution is limited to 1024x768, while it used to be 1280x1024
[16:30] <wols> zero_errfa: debian or ubuntu?
[16:30] <zero_errfa> wols : debian
[16:30] <edbian> you're in the wrong room
[16:30] <Dman674> ubuntu
[16:30] <wols> gribouille: intall nvidia-settings, run it and change it there
[16:30] <wols> zero_errfa: please go to the #debian channel here on freenode then
[16:31] <zero_errfa> wols : but isn't a generic problem?
[16:32] <wols> zero_errfa: if you want generic help, go to ##linux. good luck
[16:32] <zero_errfa> wols : thanks
[16:34] <gribouille> wols, nvidia-settings hangs. impossible to kill it
[16:35] <wols> gribouille: then your installation doesn't seem to work properly :(
[16:36] <gribouille> wols, I see what's the problem
[16:37] <wols> gribouille: what is?
[16:37] <gribouille> wols, a problem with sshfs
[16:37] <lsv> when I log in to my account in my laptop a message appears saying that my battery might be old or broken, is there any way to fix this or should I just buy a new battery?
[16:38] <gribouille> wols, nvidia-settings reads the contents of the current directory
[16:38] <wols> lsv: is the battery old and broken (ie doesn't hold a charge anymore)?
[16:38] <lsv> wols: is does charge, but it last less time time.
[16:39] <gribouille> wols, nvidia-settings doesn't offer the resolution I want
[16:39] <wols> gribouille: then you might have to force it via xorg.conf
[16:39] <mang0> How do I tell what wine version I have?
[16:39] <mang0> (from terminal)
[16:39] <gribouille> wols, how ?
[16:40] <phaedral> looking for app that will create swf slideshow that autoadvances; created one w/ libreoffice, but must click to advance when embedded on web
[16:40] <JustSighDudes> Can someone check how big /boot is?
[16:40] <wols> gribouille: X -configure  and then editing it. make sure you make a copy of your current xorg.conf first for backup
[16:40] <th0r> mang0: wine --version?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> wols: why not use nvidia-xconfig
[16:40] <wols> too long since I last rewrote xorg.conf and I didn't like it back then either
[16:41] <wols> gribouille: listen more to ActionParsnip, not me
[16:41] <lsv> mang0: you can probably look at the man page for wine and look at the different switches.
[16:41] <mang0> th0r: thanks
[16:41] <gribouille> wols, I've just created a new xorg.conf file with nvidia-settings (that solved the problem with glx)
[16:42] <Dori922> wols: could i run one hypervisor on the front end server(KVM) and a different hypervisor on the node server(XEN)
[16:42] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, do you know how to add the 1280x1024 screen resolution?
[16:42] <wols> Dori922: I don't know enough about UEC to answer that
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: sure
[16:42] <Dori922> wols:  ah okey :D thanks anyway
[16:43] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, how?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:43] <wols> Dori922: but it's very very unlikely that your i7 machine doesn't do VT, that's all I know a little about
[16:43] <wols> Dori922: e.g. I suggest you look for it harder. which is why I wanted to know what mobo you use for it
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: set the resolution to something and click "write to X config file" then close the app.
[16:43] <TrentH> Hello?
[16:43] <cant-login> hello
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    and change the resolution you set
[16:44] <TrentH> I can't see the users list
[16:44] <TrentH> :3
[16:44] <TrentH> Stupid Gnome XChat
[16:44] <TrentH> Or maybe it's suppose to be like that?
[16:44] <alex--> TrentH: i go for chatzilla
[16:44] <MrUnagi> CE9843A22DF: to=<root@wanyrdude.dipmap.com>, orig_to=<root>, relay=none, delay=71741, delays=71718/23/0/0.09, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: connect to wanyrdude.dipmap.com[207.223.0.140]:25: Connection timed out……………what does this error mean?
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> Dori922: why do you need 64bit in the guest?
[16:45] <wols> MrUnagi: it means it tried to connect to the wanyrdude host and that host didn't answer
[16:45] <TrentH> But anyways, i'm having trouble with windows skipping on my screen? I have the FGLRX driver working....I'm using a HD5850
[16:45] <MrUnagi> I'm confused why it is looking at that host
[16:45] <MrUnagi> i changed it, or i thought i did
[16:45] <wols> MrUnagi: cause someone wrote a mail to it.where did you change it?
[16:45] <jono> Mark Shuttleworth is doing a Q+A in #ubuntu-classroom - ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[16:46] <MrUnagi> dpkg-reconfigure
[16:46] <wols> MrUnagi: there is more to that
[16:46] <MrUnagi> where should i be looking
[16:46] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, do I have to choose the screen resolution in a drop down list?
[16:46] <TrentH> Anybody know why whenever I drag a window it skips instead of goes smoothly across the screen?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: yes, so you can identify the resolution bit so you can change it in the xorg.conf file
[16:47] <Dori922> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by 64bit in the guest?
[16:47] <MrUnagi> ultimately i am trying to figure out why telnet localhost 25 is failing
[16:47] <wols> MrUnagi: /etc/mailnames, your alias file, /etc/hosts, your dns server
[16:47] <TheCyph3r> quick question: what is the equivalent of "alt+f4" in ubuntu?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Dori922: if you get VT enabled, it will allow 64bit guest virtual machines. yes?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> TheCyph3r: to close a window, its the same
[16:47] <MrUnagi> TheCyph3r: alt + f4
[16:48] <TheCyph3r> thanks!
[16:48] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, ok. now, all I have to do is change the resolution in xorg.conf?
[16:48] <MrUnagi> owls mail names was right, /etc/hosts does not have my domain in it
[16:48] <MrUnagi> brb
[16:49] <TrentH> How do I make windows not "skip" across the screen? They don't glide smoothly like in windows?
[16:49] <Dori922> ActionParsnip: on the NC? sorry im still coming to terms with UEC :P
[16:49] <TrentH> Whenever I reposistion a window or somthing
[16:49] <th0r> TrentH: turn off compiz and/or other fancy video effects
[16:49] <cant-login> anyone registered with linuxtracker.org?
[16:49] <wols> Dori922: please tell me you do all this as a learning experience. right?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: exactly, then restart X or the system
[16:50] <TrentH> th0r, I have a Radeon HD5850 and it can't handle the "fancy effects"?
[16:50] <Dori922> wols: i got hired to learn/research/develop a mock cloud system
[16:50] <riddler> question: how do I make usb look like the cdrom? i forgot the correct 'mount' command for it
[16:50] <th0r> TrentH: do you want an answer or an argument?
[16:50] <Dori922> wols: its all about me learning UEC before putting a system into production
[16:50] <wols> Dori922: I'd be wary of the "Mock" part :)
[16:50] <Dori922> wols: :P its not gonna be sold to clients
[16:51] <TrentH> th0r, i just didn't think it wouldn't handle somthing like that
[16:51] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, ok, let me try it out
[16:51] <Dori922> wols:  all my problems are coming from hardware issues :(
[16:52] <daGrevis> Hello!
[16:52] <daGrevis> Can you help me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/54152/how-to-configure-my-graphics-card
[16:52] <TrentH> th0r, I removed Conky, and I only have "Enable Window Decoration" on compiz
[16:52] <riddler> anyone know the command? to mount cdrom to usb so when I install from a usb it wont ask a weird question about no cd on cdrom
[16:52] <th0r> TrentH: turn off compiz
[16:52] <ryanakca> Any suggestions on how to shrink and center every page of a pdf so that I get larger margins?
[16:53] <what_if> On reboot... Ubuntu / Xorg forgets my multiple monitor setup. How can I save my configuration over reboots?
[16:53] <TrentH> th0r, when I disable Window Decoration it seems to work faster.
[16:54] <th0r> TrentH: did you turn off compiz?
[16:54] <luffy> hey guy, I am very new in ubunt and I have a problem with my mic, it doesnt work in linux but it works in my windows pc, it is just a normal mic
[16:54] <luffy> please help me guys
[16:54] <daGrevis> I need help too! http://askubuntu.com/questions/54152/how-to-configure-my-graphics-card
[16:54] <Pici> !here
[16:54] <tik> so the last update totally fuck my system.. thanks!
[16:54] <tik> switching to mint
[16:54] <edbian> hahahahah
[16:54] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[16:54] <TrentH> th0r, I dunno how to disable compiz
[16:55] <edbian> tik: mint has updates too
[16:55] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, it didn't work: in Xorg.0.log, there is the following message: NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x1024+0+0"; removing.
[16:55] <tik> also a big fuck unity!!!!!!!!!
[16:55] <th0r> I give up
[16:55] <daGrevis> edbian, my man. Im the guy who had problems with wi-fi. ;) http://askubuntu.com/questions/54152/how-to-configure-my-graphics-card
[16:55] <TrentH> BAHAHHAHA
[16:55] <luffy> can anyone please help me with my mic problem, it is a very simple mic but it doesnt work
[16:56] <riddler> anyone here at all know the command to mount cdrom to usb? so when i install an OS it wont say there's no cd on cdrom?
[16:56] <mang0> Is there a garage band equivilant for linux?
[16:57]  * cant-login needs some help in regards to linuxtracker
[16:57] <ikonia> cant-login: not really an ubuntu problem
[16:57] <cant-login> ok
[16:58] <ikonia> mang0: there is ubuntu studio with musical recording applications, but not a direct garage band replacment, DAWs on linux are not really mature
[16:58] <mang0> ikonia: I don't want a powerful DAW. I've already got FL studio, but I want to do some stuff with a garageband like program
[16:59] <ikonia> mang0: then no
[16:59] <mang0> Darn.
[16:59] <luffy> please guys, can anyone help me with my microphone problem, it doesnt work in linux but it works perfecley in windows
[16:59] <luffy> it is a normal mic, no usb at all
[17:00] <bitcycle> Hey all.  I've got a python-* debian package which installs a number of python projects... we use it to install 3rd party dependencies where I work.  I just recently added python > lxml 2.3  to the debian pkg, but when I go to install using "sudo dpkg -i python-3rd_Party.deb" it fails saying "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/lxml/etree.so', which is also in package python-lxml \n dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken
[17:00] <bitcycle> pipe)"
[17:00] <BluesKaj> !Linux Multimedia Studio  | mang0
[17:00] <venik212> can anyone help me figure out why NX is not working on my 11.04 (64 bit) ubuntu?
[17:00] <bitcycle> Any ideas on how to resolve that issue?
[17:00] <mang0> !ubuntu studio
[17:00] <BluesKaj> !info Linux Multimedia Studio  | mang0
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: you may need to set the resolution in the screen section  like:  1280x1024_60
[17:01] <delac> how to restart notify-osd?
[17:01] <venik212> Could anyone please help me figure out why NX is not working on my 11.04 (64 bit) ubuntu?
[17:01] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, that's not very clear
[17:02] <e3> :59 *** Cheri703 QUIT Remote host closed the connection
[17:02] <e3> > :59 *** Cheri703 QUIT Remote ho
[17:02] <Guest42111> .
[17:02] <e3> Sorry
[17:02] <piero> Hi! I'm in trouble with my encfs. Since I lost the first of 5 backup dvds I have just my files and folders encrypted, but not any other file encfs creates in the encrypted folder. I remember my passphrase, but it doesn't work. Is there a solution to me?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> gribouille: if you search aound you will find sample files, you can copy the syntax, basically your screen sucks and isn't reporting its refesh rates and such to the system, so you need to manually tell it the refresh rates
[17:03] <BluesKaj> mang0  check this out ...haven't used it myself , but I've heard good things about it ... http://acurrie.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/linux-multimedia-studio-brings-garageband-to-linux-except-that-its-probably-better/
[17:04] <mang0> thanks BluesKaj
[17:04] <gribouille> ActionParsnip, normally, there is no problem with my screen. for example, ubuntu installed without problem
[17:05] <daGrevis> anyone? problem with graphics! http://askubuntu.com/questions/54152/how-to-configure-my-graphics-card
[17:05] <ziikutv> hi
[17:05] <e3> Does someone know about Dolphin-context-menu & archiving-option problems ?
[17:05] <wols> gribouille: what's in your xorg.conf?
[17:06] <wols> gribouille: if you tell it to use 1280x1024 it should do that happily. just that your monitor doesn't do edid threw it all of. must be an old one
[17:07] <gribouille> wols, I'm not sure it is a problem with the monitor. everything worked fine two weeks ago.
[17:07] <gribouille> wols, ans it happend several times that ubuntu screwed my configuration
[17:08] <delac> or can anyone tell me why receiving message with Pidgin or changing volume doesn't bring up the notifications anymore?
[17:08] <szal> daGrevis: that gfx card works only w/ the free radeon driver, so it won't get any better
[17:09] <jnsl_> When i reboot my amazon server it says it can't mount the filesystem. I have created a new instance and attached the drive from my original server to troubleshoot it, however im not sure how to approach this. Maybe i should run fsck on it ?
[17:09] <zhb> hello
[17:10] <wols> jnsl_: try to mount the old filesystem first
[17:10] <pdtpatrick> Question .. in ubuntu .. my terminal and other windows keep opening atop left but its stuck. What settings do i change to bring it back to normal? Thanks.
[17:10] <zhb> where are you come from?
[17:10] <szal> pdtpatrick: what is stuck?
[17:11] <szal> zhb: doesn't matter
[17:11] <jnsl_> wols i have mounted the old filesysten on my new instance so i can fix the error, if i only i knew :)
[17:11] <zhb> who
[17:11] <zhb> don't move
[17:11] <szal> !ot | zhb
[17:11] <blade_> how do i get ubuntu to let me run both of my ati video cards at the same time?
[17:12] <wols> jnsl_: do you have any output from the failed boot?
[17:12] <jnsl_> wols i cant access the server log right now :/
[17:13] <jnsl_> system log even
[17:13] <chriswr> is there a way i can disable unity?
[17:13] <szal> !classic | chriswr
[17:13] <chriswr> oooo alright thnx szal
[17:13] <WaltherFI> I'd like to find a barcode creator for invoicing, with EAN-128, preferably as a plugin to LibreOffice
[17:13] <daGrevis> szal, its really bad. there r no way how to make situation better?
[17:14] <szal> daGrevis: you could try whether a newer *buntu version makes any difference
[17:14] <TheCyph3r> Got a question: Running Ubuntu 10.04 on laptop, plug in mouse and use for a while, but when I remove it...I can't use the touchpad
[17:14] <szal> daGrevis: other than that, no#
[17:14] <tdignan> How do I adjust the pulseaudio volume from the command line? In the main ubuntu distro a tool is included to adjust the volume above 100% but there is no such tool in xubuntu to my knowledge
[17:15] <llutz> WaltherFI: don't know if this works with libreoffice too http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/barcode
[17:15] <szal> tdignan: install pavucontrol
[17:15] <tdignan> szal++
[17:15] <pdtpatrick> szal my windows are stuck at the top left. Whenever you open a window, it goes to top left and you cannot move it or do anything. It remains there
[17:16] <daGrevis> szal, i dont believe you. ;D
[17:17] <TheCyph3r> nevermind, i found a script :-)
[17:17] <szal> daGrevis: AMD has 3 support levels for gfx cards: the proprietary solution (fglrx) for HD2000 and newer, the free radeonhd driver (don't know for what cards exactly that is) and the free (2D) radeon driver
[17:17] <tdignan> szal: does this tool usually let you exceed 100% volume?
[17:18] <szal> tdignan: not that I know of
[17:18] <tdignan> :/ in regular ubuntu there is a tool, perhaps it's a gnome tool.
[17:18] <tdignan> It lets you hit 200%
[17:18] <tdignan> (it adjusts the amplitude of the signal)
[17:18] <szal> tdignan: never heard of
[17:18] <progbot> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/barcode
[17:20] <inemion> If I have a script that is trying to restart two services back to back .... do I have to put some sort of a wait() in between both of them?
[17:20] <defectz_> hey all, how do i load a file as an executable
[17:20] <inemion> The second restart is failing on me
[17:20] <inemion> In Gentoo the script works fine but in ubuntu it's failing
[17:20] <szal> defectz_: huh?
[17:20] <tdignan> Oh well, there have been things more worth chasing than this one.
[17:21] <tdignan> I will have to get some better speakers.
[17:21] <defectz_> szal: i have a .jar file and i need to run it
[17:21] <szal> defectz_: what is it?
[17:21] <defectz_> szal: minecraft
[17:21] <xibalba> Hey all, I need some help getting 2 sets of NIC bonding network cards working is anyone familiar with this? My config here at the following URL : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650125/
[17:22] <szal> defectz_: try 'java -jar filename.jar'
[17:22] <xibalba> im hoping you're not limited to 1 set of nic bonding cards
[17:23] <sabrina> j #studioDomenico
[17:23] <wols> defectz_: java -jar <jarfile>
[17:23] <daGrevis> szal, I have 'ati radeon x1200'. its very often used gfx card. no way to get it working so that it have no problems to show medium effects and youtube videos?
[17:23] <daGrevis> NO WAY!
[17:23] <daGrevis> *no fuckin way
[17:24] <oCean> daGrevis: control your language please
[17:24] <somsip> !language daGrevis
[17:24] <defectz_> szal: i need to set my terminal to the directory , whats the cmd to list files in current directory
[17:24] <wols> defectz_: "ls"
[17:24] <xibalba> too many signon, signoffs show up on my scren. makes it so hard to see what's going on here
[17:24] <xibalba> if anyone knows how to do nic bonding, or has done it, please message me
[17:24] <daGrevis> lol, language... xD
[17:24] <daGrevis> like we all are 13 years old.
[17:24] <h00k> !language | daGrevis ^ here's correct syntax
[17:25] <rww> daGrevis: It's not a matter of age, it's a matter of respect.
[17:25] <angrycarrot> hi i need the sun java for ubuntu 10.04, how do i download it?
[17:25] <xibalba> is there another channel i should try as well?
[17:25] <daGrevis> yes, it is. but not in this situation. i didn't call anyone f**. i just expressed my emotions.
[17:25] <daGrevis> by the way, i got a clue
[17:25] <daGrevis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/42086/unity-messed-up-by-fglrx-drivers/42160#42160
[17:26] <carlly> i
[17:26] <oCean> daGrevis: don't use that language here again. No matter in what way
[17:26] <defectz_> szal: this is the error i get when i run it http://pastebin.com/QmiNRUbH
[17:26] <xibalba> do i take a number or...?
[17:26] <destinal_> I've got a strange / interesting problem wherein I need to boot a new ubuntu 11.04 install from the install CD but set root fs to the hard drive.    root=/dev/sda1 doesn't work (I guess I still need the initrd for kernel modules for ext4?)  -- I've googled it a bit but can't seem to find the proper boot line, anyone here know?
[17:26] <szal> daGrevis: apparently I was wrong & the radeonhd driver works w/ X1xxx cards
[17:27] <Alias> Hello, this is the support channel for Ubuntu, correct?
[17:27] <xibalba> i'll try back later\
[17:27] <xibalba> Alias , good luck
[17:27] <oCean> Alias: indeed
[17:28] <daGrevis> szal, good to hear ;)
[17:28] <somsip> command line for running 11.04 Disk Utility from terminal anyone?
[17:28] <daGrevis> oCean, okay... if it matters - no problems. :)
[17:28] <defectz_> szal: this is the error i got when i ran the file http://pastebin.com/QmiNRUbH
[17:28] <Alias> Tell me, why do you use Ubuntu on your home computer?
[17:28] <szal> daGrevis: don't ask me what to do to run it though
[17:28] <aetas> somsip, disk utility?  care to elabortate?
[17:28] <szal> !ot | Alias
[17:29] <daGrevis> szal, arghm
[17:29] <CLF1> why is chmod applied after the samba config file is writen instead of applying the chmod within the samba config when the share is  identified
[17:29] <daGrevis> szal, I was going to xD
[17:29] <somsip> aetas: I don't use standard menus and want to access this. Can't find it now :) http://www.care4tech.com/ubuntu-2/how-to-disk-management-in-ubuntu-11-04/1153/
[17:30] <blade_> can i run 2 ATI video cards at the same time
[17:30] <Zzarkc-20> Hey. On a 10.04 server, how do I add a user to the www-data group?
[17:30] <aetas> somsip, ok one sec
[17:30] <Galaxor> In natty, where is the "Software Sources"?
[17:30] <llutz> Zzarkc-20: sudo adduser "user" www-data
[17:30] <destinal_> apparently my motherboard has an onboard IDE / PATA but no capability to boot from it
[17:30] <Zzarkc-20> llutz: Thanks!!!
[17:30] <szal> !ati | daGrevis
[17:31] <Galaxor> Oh, it's part of software center, and not a separate program.
[17:31]  * destinal_ sighs
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Galaxor: you can edit them in software centre
[17:31] <TheCyph3r> does ubuntu have a counterpart for windows' "notepad"?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Galaxor: thre is a software sources if you search in dash
[17:32] <iceroot> TheCyph3r: gedit
[17:32] <iceroot> TheCyph3r: or if you need a real editor, use vim / emacs
[17:32] <blade_> Thec or nano edit
[17:32] <blade_> TheCyph3r, that was to you just forgot tab lol
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheCyph3r: several, leafpad is a closer match in functionality than gedit, gedit is modular and has actual features
[17:32] <carbon357> thecypher :  gedit
[17:32] <edisto> is there an alternative flash that doesn't crash every time you play 2 movies?
[17:33] <Galaxor> Hm.  kmobiletools has been dropped.  What should I use instead?  I've got a motorola v365.
[17:33] <iceroot> !gnash | edisto
[17:33] <edisto> thanks ice
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> edisto: could try lightspark
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> edisto: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/open-source-flash-alternative-lightspark-final-released/
[17:33] <somsip> aetas: SoftwareCentre message from someone else got me there:  sudo palimpsest
[17:33] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: worth watching it?
[17:33] <szal> daGrevis: you might be interested in this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:34] <n4dsp> there a reason I get terminated ???
[17:34] <remsSs> hello everybody
[17:34] <n4dsp> got bounced after being logged in here for about a minute
[17:34] <blade_> dual video ati video cards..... can it be done in Ubuntu 10 10
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: watching what?
[17:35] <tjiggi_fo> [13:33] * n4dsp has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[17:36] <jnsl_> wols i have the system log now
[17:36] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: lightdpark
[17:36] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: lightspark
[17:36] <Deesl> trying to setup a IPSEC transport mode with a FreeBSD box referring to http://www.ipsec-howto.org/x299.html . However its not working.. can someone help please?
[17:36] <aetas> jnsl_, back again? :P
[17:36] <n4dsp> got bounced again
[17:36] <iceroot> Deesl: #freebsd
[17:36] <jnsl_> Ohh yes a new monster
[17:36] <szal> daGrevis: radeonhd seems to be deprecated; so you better try to get as much out of the radeon driver as you can (see link in my previous line)
[17:36] <aetas> whats this one?
[17:36] <Deesl> iceroot: hrmm
[17:36] <n4dsp> what does that mean that remote host has closed the connection?
[17:36] <edisto> thanks action
[17:37] <jnsl_> here it is http://pastebin.com/U9GpKQKK
[17:37] <wols> n4dsp: just that. the remote host closed the connection your tried to establish or had
[17:37] <blade_> szal with the open drivers can i enable both of my video cards at the same time?
[17:37] <szal> tjiggi_fo: and?
[17:37] <wols> n4dsp: like on a phone when the other side hangs up
[17:37] <n4dsp> what causes that w0ls?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: sure, ive seen some guys say its not bad
[17:38] <MrUnagi> mail servers are so difficult
[17:38] <szal> blade_: no idea, I can only give as much advice about ATI as I can google, plus I don't use multiple cards, whatever brand
[17:38] <tjiggi_fo> szal, just answering his question
[17:38] <wols> MrUnagi: they all suck
[17:38] <blade_> szal ok thank you
[17:38] <aetas> jnsl_, system drive can't be mounted anymore?
[17:38] <MrUnagi> I'm starting to think i should keep my current setup wols
[17:38] <jnsl_> yes : (
[17:38] <wols> blade_: do you have several monitors?
[17:38] <MrUnagi> wols
[17:38] <blade_> wols yes
[17:38] <OeKintaro> Hi. A While a go I asked about doing an ubuntu install on less than 3gb hdd, at the time someone suggested to download the alternate and install a minimal and then build form there, and offered a link to a step by step setup. I can't find that info now, googled the whole afternoon and came out empty... anyone can help me?
[17:38] <MrUnagi> er……bah sorry
[17:38] <aetas> jnsl_, what partition type?
[17:39] <jnsl_> i can mount the filesystem on another instance and troubleshoot but i dont know what to fix
[17:39] <jnsl_> ext4
[17:39] <aetas> you try fscking it yet?
[17:39] <jnsl_> i tried e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> !minimal | OeKintaro
[17:39] <blade_> wols i can run 2 monitors off my onboard card but my main monitor runs off a dedicated card
[17:39] <terry> !minimal | OeKintaro
[17:39] <terry> ooops
[17:40] <gimpy1382> How would I get my extra mouse buttons to work like keyboard shortcuts on Ubuntu 10.10?
[17:40] <aetas> jnsl_, what'd it do?
[17:40] <wols> blade_: as long as you don't want to use crossfire or such, it should work fine without fglrx
[17:40] <blade_> wols so i should use the open drivers
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> OeKintaro: if you install minimal then install something like fluxbox and lightdm  you should be ok (or skip lightdm and configure auto logins with conf files ;))
[17:41] <blade_> wols i have tried fglrx drivers when i was using Ubuntu Studio and it would only let me use one card at a time
[17:41] <jnsl_> aetas http://pastebin.com/y0jBdHDL
[17:41]  * szal doubts that 3 GB is anywhere near enough for a sustainable system
[17:41] <wols> blade_: just install ubuntu and see. if it doesn't work you can still install fglrx
[17:41]  * TheCyph3r agrees with szal
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> szal: it'll struggle but could work
[17:41] <OeKintaro> I'll try that, thanks you all
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> OeKintaro: I'd use something like puppy or xpud, they will run fine in that sort of space
[17:41] <wols> szal: of course it is. that's plenty of room. not much space for ~ but for the system: fine
[17:42] <TheCyph3r> But then again, you can still run a *nix system as a live disc...which is less than a gig
[17:42] <Sterile> Anybody here familiar with VIM?
[17:42] <blade_> wols i have Ubuntu 10 10 installed right now... lspci shows that Ubuntu can see both cards but will only let me use one at a time
[17:42] <aetas> jnsl_, looks fine, something else is wrong then.  how did this start?
[17:42] <szal> wols: my / here has grown to 5.7 GB in the meantime
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> szal: yikes, mine is about 3.1Gb
[17:42] <wols> blade_: you will have to write your own xorg.conf
[17:43] <blade_> wols ok it's been a while since i have had to use nanoedit but it should all come back once i get started lol
[17:43] <jnsl_> aetas hmm everything was working fine, then i rebooted and bam
[17:44] <aetas> jnsl_, what stuff did you change on the last time it ran?
[17:44] <kadder> Hello, community! Let's make Ubuntu Mobile ! I  think that this will be more popular than Android
[17:44] <blade_> wols just wanted to see if that would be my best bet or if it was a conflict with Studio not using Unity in 11 4 that would not let me use both in the ccc for ati
[17:45] <Sterile> Anybody here familiar with VIM?
[17:45] <jnsl_> aetas i tried to upgrade to 11.04 and then it quit the ssh session and i reconnected and nothing had happen
[17:45] <terry> sure
[17:45] <terry> Sterile: What do you need?
[17:46] <jnsl_> aetas i also deleted gitolite manually
[17:46] <Sterile> terry, I'm trying to setup syntax highlighting
[17:46] <Sterile> terry, for python code
[17:46] <Sterile> terry, but for some reason I can't see any colors at all
[17:47] <terry> Sterile: Hummm... YOu should.
[17:47] <aetas> jnsl_, have you tried skipping when it asks you to?
[17:47] <Sterile> terry, but it's weird cause it seems to depend on the file; for example if I do vim ~/.vimrc I get colors
[17:47] <terry> Sterile: How big is the file?
[17:47] <Sterile> terry, but I don't get colors for any other file
[17:47] <jnsl_> aetas its an amazon instance so i can't do that - i think
[17:47] <Sterile> terry, not very big
[17:48] <abhinav_singh> how can i find if my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit
[17:48] <aetas> jnsl_, then how are you able to start fsck?
[17:48] <oCean> abhinav_singh: unmae -m
[17:48] <oCean> abhinav_singh: uname -m
[17:49] <terry> Sterile: What version of vim are you running?
[17:49] <jnsl_> aetas i detached the drive and mounted it on another instance i started up
[17:49] <n4dsp> for some reason when I log in here using xchat and to connect by hitting the <Enter> key I get disconnected within one minute. So click on the <connect> key on xchat window in future. By doing so I do not get disconnected. Just info for others using Xchat
[17:49] <Sterile> terry, pretty sure it's the latest; 7.3.035
[17:49] <abhinav_singh> it is showing me i686 oCean
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh: i686 = 32bit  x86_64 = 64bit
[17:49] <terry> 7.2.330   here
[17:50] <mongy> jnsl_, sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[17:50] <aetas> jnsl_, ok, you probably need to do that so we can edit the files.  I have a feeling its trying to mount something that it can't but I don't think its the primary partition.  That said, its still blocking and since you can't skip it its more of a problem than it should be
[17:50] <abhinav_singh> oh okay ActionParsnip
[17:50] <terry> Sterile: sudo apt-get upgrade vim
[17:51] <Sterile> terry, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Sterile: what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[17:51] <Sterile> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 11.04
[17:51] <jnsl_> aetas i will reattach the drive then
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !info vim
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Sterile: yep, you are up to date
[17:52] <aetas> jnsl_, to start can you pastebin the drive's /etc/fstab
[17:53] <Sterile> I downloaded the python vim file
[17:53] <Sterile> and I placed it in ~/.vim/syntax
[17:53] <aetas> jnsl_, my guess is that its mounting the primary partition fine and then when it goes to mount the other partitions, it finds one it can't because you or someone deleted the directory it was supposed to be mounted into
[17:53] <Sterile> but it doesn't seem to do anything
[17:53] <jnsl_> yeah i looked in fstab and there was a line, one i had not added, ill post is in a sec
[17:53] <kpoman> hello guys ! do someone know if there is still a free vmware ?
[17:54] <kpoman> or only virtualbox now to virtualize ?
[17:54] <Sterile> here's the file I tried to install: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=790
[17:54] <aetas> free as in money or free as in opensource?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> !vmware | kpoman its free as in money
[17:55] <kpoman> ActionParsnip, really dude ? is it pure commercial thing now ???
[17:56] <Sterile> terry, do you have any  idea what I could do?
[17:56] <jnsl_> aetas here is my fstab http://pastebin.com/pHAcVxGL
[17:57] <Corey> Sterile: Is the script being loaded?  And is python support compiled into your version of vim?
[17:57] <Sterile> Corey, how do I know if the script is being loaded?
[17:57] <jnsl_> aetas maybe uncomment the whole thing and try again ?
[17:57] <Sterile> Corey, and how do I know if python support is compiled in my version xD
[17:57] <venik212> Could anyone help me figure out why NX is not working on my 11.04 (64 bit) ubuntu?
[17:57] <terry> ls -l ~/.vim/syntax/phtyon3.0.vim  | pastebinit
[17:57] <aetas> jnsl_, whats this /dev/sdb doing in here?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> kpoman: always has been
[17:57] <unknownhost> how to add email server to ubuntu?
[17:58] <oCean> !postfix | unknownhost
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> unknownhost: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[17:58] <jnsl_> aetas i have not touched the fstab so its something aws had added i suppose
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> kpoman: its free to use, just closed source
[17:58] <terry> Sterile: (Maybe you need to do chmod +x ~/.vim/syntax/python3.0.vim )
[17:58] <aetas> jnsl_, comment it out, it doesnt even have a partition number.  then put the drive back and try again
[17:59] <jnsl_> what about /dev/shm?
[17:59] <terry> Sterile: In other words, see if the executable bit is set for it.  I don't know that it needs to be but would asume it does.
[17:59] <aetas> jnsl_, it looks like some sort of amazon cloud drive.  does /mnt exist on that drive?
[18:00] <aetas> jnsl_, it can be commented too.  I dont think that ones the problem but never know
[18:00] <Sterile> terry, when I execute that I get -rw-r--r-- 1 alex alex 15328 2011-07-22 12:17 /home/alex/.vim/syntax/python3.0.vim
[18:00] <jnsl_> mnt exist, its empty, i dont remember it being there pre my reboot failure
[18:00] <Sterile> (when I execute ls -l ~/.vim/syntax/python3.0.vim)
[18:00] <daweefolk> i use elinks. i edited my elinks.conf but the changes dont appear to happen. how do i open elinks and essentially reload my config file?
[18:00] <aetas> jnsl_, I think that sdb line is the problem most likely.  lemme know if it fixes it
[18:00] <jnsl_> ohhhhh crap aetas
[18:00] <jnsl_> i gave wrong fstab
[18:01] <Ray2> I have Ubuntu 10.04 w/grub2 on my sda drive...I also have Ubuntu 10.04 w/grub2 on my sdb drive along with mageia 1 w/ grub1...can I delete the ubuntu on the sdb drive and not screw up the grub on sda drive
[18:01] <jnsl_> aetas no wait its the right one hehe sorry :) ill try reboot now
[18:01] <aetas> lol
[18:02] <jnsl_> aetas do i comment out LABEL and proc line as well ?
[18:02] <aetas> if you comment out your root mount point, you won't have a system
[18:02] <aetas> and dont pick on proc
[18:02] <jnsl_> haha ok
[18:04] <a-new-user> hi, how do i find out whats causing this error? "failed to enumerate usb device on port 2"
[18:04] <a-new-user> actually its "unable to enumerate...."
[18:04] <ohzie> Hey, if I give someone ssh access and I just want them to be able to scp/sftp, can I make their default shell null?
[18:05] <ohzie> a-new-user: unplug your usb devices and slowly plug them in until you get that error in dmesg
[18:05] <RavenHursT> so... I'm attempting to follow this walk through here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim but everytime I attempt to run the hdparm command.. I get "reading sector 5805056: FAILED: Input/output error"  any ideas?
[18:05] <ohzie> a-new-user: when you get it, the last thing you plugged in is probably what's causing that error.
[18:06] <kpoman> ActionParsnip, I dont even see anything free in there !!! only 30 days evaluation ... where do you get the free for non-commercial version ?
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> RavenHursT: are you prefixing the command with sudo
[18:06] <ikonia> RavenHursT: sounds like that sector has a fault
[18:06] <a-new-user> i don't have any usb devices plugged in, the error's always there
[18:06] <ikonia> RavenHursT: ahhh, ActionParsnip is more realistic
[18:06] <terry> Sterile: Did you grab script version 3.0.6?    If so, try 3.0.5  and just overwrite and see.
[18:06] <RavenHursT> kpoman: yup..
[18:06] <a-new-user> actually, i have keyboard and mouse. Could they cause it?
[18:06] <Rigin> yes
[18:07] <Sterile> terry, yes, I did. One second.
[18:07] <RavenHursT> ikonia:  if it's a bad sector.. then how is it able to create the temp file there?
[18:07] <Rigin> yes i
[18:07] <kpoman> RavenHursT, no free version at all now ?
[18:07] <Rigin> how
[18:07] <RavenHursT> kpoman: huh?
[18:07] <RavenHursT> kpoman: free what?
[18:08] <terry> Sterile: There are 4 there, that all have same file name, python3.0.vim  Could be that script version 3.0.6 is not working for you and one of the ohters will.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> kpoman: i'd ask in #vmware   its more specific to the issue
[18:08] <Rigin> how i make shell null
[18:08] <kpoman> RavenHursT, vmware workstation or whatever
[18:08] <terry> Sterile: I jsut compared the first two and they are different.
[18:08] <RavenHursT> kpoman: oooohhh... I'm using Oracle VM Virtual Box running Natty
[18:08] <kpoman> RavenHursT, I am too, but need to test some stuff on vmware
[18:09] <Sterile> terry, ohoh, I think the first ones are for python 3+
[18:09] <RavenHursT> kpoman:  I'm sooo lost in this conversation.. lol
[18:09] <Sterile> terry, but I have like python 2.7
[18:09] <RavenHursT> kpoman: Not sure what you're getting at
[18:09] <Rigin> hiiiiiiiiiii
[18:10] <kpoman> RavenHursT, nevermind :p I am just looking for a free as in "not pay nor register nor make me sick" version of vmware
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Rigin: gksudo gedit /etc/passwd
[18:10] <RavenHursT> kpoman: Oh.. sorry man.. can't help ya there..
[18:10] <misha> sadasd
[18:10] <misha> Hello?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Rigin: change the /bin/bash to /bin/false   for the user you want to null the shell of, they will then have zero console access
[18:11] <RavenHursT> So does anyone have any idea how I can get the tests here to work? reading sector 5805056: FAILED: Input/output error
[18:11] <RavenHursT> oops
[18:11] <RavenHursT> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> very odd that i downloaded 2.2gig of 2gig on this torrent
[18:11] <[THC]AcidRain> what could it be :)
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: MD5 test it (if possible)
[18:12] <[THC]AcidRain> ah. no md5 checksum was included
[18:12] <terry> Sterile: aaahhhh ok.
[18:12] <RavenHursT> arg
[18:12] <Zzarkc-20> Hello. What do I add to a script to make it input for a prompt? Like, I'm trying to write a script to scp some files to a remote server, but when I connect, it asks for a password. How do I hardcode it so it will enter the password and hit, "enter?"
[18:14] <Parameter> Zzarkc-20, try piping
[18:14] <jnsl_> WOOT
[18:14] <terry> Sterile: Did you already have the directory  ~/.vim/syntax  ?  Or did you have to create it?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc-20: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_08_02.html
[18:14] <Parameter> not sure if it works
[18:14] <rns> how do I copy a file in the terminal with a different name?  For example say test.py already exists, and I want create a new file that is a copy of test.py and name it test_copy.py.
[18:14] <jnsl_> I think it worked!!!!!
[18:14] <Parameter> but, you could still try
[18:14] <Parameter> for example
[18:14] <Parameter> echo SomePass123 | yourcommnd
[18:14] <Flannel> rns: cp test.py test_copy.py
[18:14] <jnsl_> aetas i think it worked!!! :D
[18:14] <Sterile> terry, I had to create it
[18:14] <Sterile> terry, why?
[18:14] <terry> rns cp test.py test_copy.py
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Parameter: there is the 'read' command in bash :D
[18:15] <Parameter> ok
[18:15] <jnsl_> let me rephrase, aetas it worked! thanks a million bloody fstab how did that one get in there
[18:15] <WaltherFI> Any plugins for LibreOffice that would allow me to create invoices with SEPA-compatible barcodes in Code 128 C
[18:15] <terry> rns: cp test.py test_copy.py  #Will give you two identical files.
[18:15] <aetas> jnsl_, are you using some type of cloud?
[18:15] <jnsl_> aetas yep =)
[18:16] <aetas> jnsl_, it looks like your cloud connection disappeared and it could no longer mount it
[18:16] <rns> Flannel, terry thanks that worked perfectly
[18:16] <alazare619> i have a jump drive that soon as i put it into a pc it dismounts it i cant even try and format it any ideas? i know its partition table is corrupt
[18:16] <terry> Sterile: Well, I don't have that dir either.  I was just wondering.  I DO have /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax
[18:16] <terry> so.....
[18:16] <jnsl_> i see, yes im using amazon web services! Now i know how to fix that another time :)
[18:17] <Sterile> terry, yeah, I read a bit about it
[18:17] <terry> Sterile: and in that dir, I have python.vim
[18:17] <Sterile> terry, I think vim looks into that dir too
[18:17] <alazare619> i have a jump drive that soon as i put it into a pc it dismounts it i cant even try and format it any ideas? i know its partition table is corrupt
[18:17] <Sterile> terry, ok now it seems to work for .py files
[18:17] <Sterile> terry, question: how to make it work exactly the same with .sage files?
[18:17] <aetas> jnsl_, if you're going to use those types of things, don't have them as "auto" in your fstab....don't put anything auto if there's a chance its not going to be there on the boot
[18:17] <Sterile> terry, same colors etc.
[18:18] <terry> Sterile: It is possible it looks for ~/.vim/syntax/  for plugins first.  Not sure, but I just think that might be the way it works.
[18:18] <alazare619> i have a jump drive that soon as i put it into a pc it dismounts it i cant even try and format it any ideas? i know its partition table is corrupt
[18:18] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: Parameter Thanks guys!
[18:18] <Parameter> Zzarkc-20, you're welcome
[18:18] <Parameter> so, what did help?
[18:18] <terry> Sterile: Try moving /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/python.vim  someplace else and put the new one there.
[18:19] <aetas> alazare619, how do you mean it dismounts it?
[18:19] <mel> Zzarkc-20: Can you use passwordless SSH to the remote server?  1. Create a shared key in your .ssh folder by running 'ssh-keygen -t rsa' and just return through all the prompts.  2. scp the id_rsa.put to the server like this: cat /<username>/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh <server-ip> "cat >> /<username>/.ssh/authorized_keys; chmod 600 /<username>/.ssh/authorized_keys"   Be sure to replace <username> and <server-ip> with the correct info.
[18:19] <terry> Sterile: In other words, temporarily move /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/python.vim  someplace else, copy the new script to /usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/ and do  rm -rf ~/.vim/syntax
[18:20] <alazare619> it acts like it sees it aetas then it just disappears whats the terminal command to show all devices?
[18:20] <Omega> Can I resize my root and home partition while in ubuntu?
[18:20] <aetas> alazare619, connect it and type "fdisk -l" and pastebin what it says
[18:20] <trism> Sterile: you could add: au BufRead,BufNewFile *.sage set filetype=python to your ~/.vimrc (for your other question)
[18:21] <stercor> I'm having trouble installing texlive-*.  Is there another way to get LaTeX installed?
[18:23] <terry> Sterile: It may also work if you just name the file python.vim  AND maybe that is what vim is looking for.  (Just guessing here. It probably doent's matter as long as the name starts with python.)
[18:23] <Abhijit> stercor, what trouble? i think sudo apt-get install latex install it
[18:24] <Raven> I just installed Ubuntu and there's something that really confuses me
[18:24] <Sterile> terry, yay it works :) I typed the command in vimrc and now both .py and .sage files work
[18:24] <Raven> Would this be the place to ask?
[18:25] <terry> Sterile:  Great!
[18:25] <stercor> Abhijit: I have logs of all of it.  But none of it makes sense.  It just says "Error" or "PANIC" with little explanation.
[18:25] <Sterile> terry, what does "au" do?
[18:25] <Raven> Hello?
[18:25] <aetas> dont ask to ask, just ask
[18:25] <Abhijit> stercor, u tried sudo apt-get install latex?
[18:25] <Raven> ugh, never mind
[18:25] <Abhijit> !details | Raven
[18:25] <Raven> oh, ok.
[18:26] <slacker_nl> szal: ping back
[18:26] <Raven> I was wondering if I download a program from firefox
[18:26] <Raven> and it gives a .tar
[18:26] <terry> Sterile: I dono
[18:26] <aetas> Raven, is this your first ubuntu install?
[18:26] <szal> slacker_nl: your EOL Upgrade howto could use a little refreshment ;)
[18:26] <Sterile> terry, did you just google it? lol
[18:26] <Raven> where do I extract it to so that ubuntu considers it an installed program?
[18:26] <terry> Sterile: Prolly puts you in edit mode and prints u
[18:26] <Raven> Yes, this is my first ubuntu install
[18:26] <slacker_nl> szal: which part?
[18:27] <terry> Sterile: No. Was that a joke?
[18:27] <szal> slacker_nl: specifically including upgrading from Hardy or Karmic to Lucid
[18:27] <Raven> I'm running the newest version, by the way
[18:27] <Sterile> terry, no, I mean, how did you find out the command
[18:27] <maco> Raven: for a pre-compiled tarball like firefox uses, it doesn't really matter where it is. it's statically compiled. you can run it from anywhere, as long as the thing to double click stays in the same spot in its untar'd directory
[18:27] <Sterile> terry, is what I'm wondering
[18:27] <aetas> Raven, things in .tar or .tar.gz or .tgz or .bzip2 are usually source packages which have to be built and installed manually (usually scripted) but will never show up as installed in Ubuntu
[18:27] <maco> Raven: what you CAN do is make a launcher and tell it the path to wherever you stashed it
[18:27] <trism> Sterile: :help filetype
[18:27] <maco> aetas: firefox doesn't ship source tarballs, just static compiled ones
[18:28] <trism> Sterile: it was from me, not terry
[18:28] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. My sound has disappeared! What can I do???
[18:28] <slacker_nl> szal: mkay.. I don't have much time on my hands and my VM is broken (at least, unable to connect to it..)
[18:28] <terry> au: command not found
[18:28] <slacker_nl> szal: I will have a look, but no idea when/how
[18:28] <Sterile> trism, oh, my bad
[18:28] <szal> slacker_nl: and perhaps even from Intrepid or Jaunty to Lucid (no idea whether that's supported, but helpers here in the chat keep reiterating that it should at least still be possible to upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid via Karmic, which I somehow doubt)
[18:28] <Sterile> trism, you both have similar names
[18:28] <maco> Raven: there should be a way to make that launcher in the menu, but i use kubuntu so dont knw how to do it in ubuntu
[18:28] <Raven> Well, when I double click the cog icon which appears represent the program, nothing happens
[18:28] <aetas> maco, "usually"
[18:28] <trism> Sterile: indeed
[18:28] <Raven> I've somewhat lost the thread of the explanation
[18:28] <maco> Raven: i'm not sure why you need a static firefox though. firefox should be included in your ubuntu install
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Raven there is a ppa which will give firefox5 and will integrate it into you system packages
[18:29] <slacker_nl> jaunty to lucid?
[18:29] <Raven> but not the newest version
[18:29] <roasted> eth0 is set for static, yet it pulled a dhcp address. uhh???
[18:29] <maco> Raven: which version of ubuntu?
[18:29] <Raven> 11
[18:29] <maco> !info firefox
[18:29] <szal> slacker_nl: and I think everything older than Hardy can be removed or moved to some other place for historical reasons ;)
[18:29] <maco> Raven: 5.0 is in 11.04
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: how did you define it as static?
[18:29] <slacker_nl> szal: 9.04 to 10.04 directly is not possible
[18:29] <terry> Oh you mean for python code.  ... again , I dono.
[18:29] <aetas> maco: he said download a program FROM firefox, not firefox ;)
[18:30] <Raven> No, mine only came with 4.0
[18:30] <aetas> guys stop confusing him, he didnt say hes downloading firefox
[18:30] <slacker_nl> szal: I don't agree, it is already called EOLUpgrades ;)
[18:30] <Raven> actually i am
[18:30] <maco> Raven: you just need to install updates :)
[18:30] <aetas> ok well you said from firefox ;)
[18:30] <szal> slacker_nl: of course not, but some say that it's still possible to go 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04
[18:30] <Raven> but that's not really the point
[18:30] <maco> Raven: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:30] <maco> Raven: or use update-manager
[18:30] <slacker_nl> that is true, that should be possible
[18:30] <roasted> ActionParsnip, I uninstalled network manager and set it as static in the network interface file. I thought it was weird that my network connection wasnt working, then I realized it was 17.11 when the IP should be static @ 17.2
[18:30] <roasted> ActionParsnip, with the dhcp range being 17.10 to 17.254
[18:31] <dualbootah> please helpe me
[18:31] <dualbootah> my wow crashes
[18:31] <slacker_nl> szal: ^^ I'll need to have a little go at it, so I need FF3.x for that, otherwise the VMWare console is not working
[18:31] <dante123> hi all......will name my first child after you if you can help me.......have a dell mini 10v which will not go into 1024x600 resolution but instead goes to 1024x768.  Probelm is that edid is corrupt i think ....so it does what it can but losed 1024x600 resolution on this netbook
[18:31] <dualbootah> even after ive added the SET opengl thing to the config file
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> slacker_nl: its possible, just no advised or supported
[18:31] <roasted> ActionParsnip, I just restarted the net interfaces and now its 17.2, but it legitimently puled a DHCP address when it was set to static, which shocked me.
[18:31] <gentoo> Salam
[18:31] <slacker_nl> ActionParsnip: I know, so not going to advise/document it ;)
[18:31] <Raven> This is incredibly confusing.  Is ubuntu really set up so that you can't download an application from the internet without having to resort to terminal workarounds?
[18:31] <Sterile> terry, trism, thanks for the help :)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> slacker_nl: point taken
[18:32] <dualbootah> gentoo can you help me
[18:32] <dante123> that means bottom is cut off on screen.....running ubuntu 11.04.  I would edit xorg.conf to add 1024x600 res but it is not there....any solutions?
[18:32] <gentoo> blb yа[уq
[18:32] <maco> Raven: you don't need to get firefox from a random point on the internet. it's in the repositories as version 5. there is an update available for your ubuntu to get it
[18:32] <dualbootah> my world of warcraft crashes saying it encountered a serious error
[18:32] <dualbootah> i have the log if you need it
[18:32] <Raven> I was actually trying get the beta, which I think is reasonable
[18:32] <dualbootah> i added the SET gxApi "opengl"
[18:32] <dualbootah> and it still wont work
[18:32] <maco> i see
[18:32] <gentoo> мне похуй
[18:33] <dualbootah> hello?
[18:33] <dante123> so i need to know how to create a custom resolution if there is no xorg.conf in 11.04?
[18:33] <szal> !ru | gentoo
[18:33] <aetas> if you're dual booting can't you just run wow on windows ;)
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Raven: sometimes it really makes life easier. The terminal is very powerful and great for advising as we can give terminal commands here
[18:33] <dante123> ActionParsnip u there?
[18:33] <ikonia> dante123: you make an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[18:33] <maco> Raven: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[18:33] <aetas> ActionParsnip, and copy the output instead of screenshot it
[18:33] <maco> Raven: the ubuntu mozilla team maintains a repository for the beta, linked above
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if you make an xorg.conf it will be obeyed
[18:34] <dante123> ikonia, but I don't know what to put in it......everything else works, mouse, synaptics and I dont want to mess that up?  Is there a generic I can use?
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> aetas: exactly, very handy
[18:34] <maco> Raven: somewhere in software center (sorry, i use kubuntu not ubuntu) there should be a way to add that repository
[18:35] <ikonia> dante123: you only put in the stuff you want, if your mouse works, don't put any mouse config in there, the auto detect works fine
[18:35] <dante123> like can you point me to a very generic one that will just add the 1024x600 res while leaving everything else as configured?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if you drop to root recovery you can run: Xorg -configure   to make a base file.
[18:35] <ikonia> dante123: you don't want a generic one, that will conflict with the auto detect stuff, just put in the stuff you want
[18:35] <maujhsn> I deleted a config.inp file! Fortunately I saved the original config.inp as a text file. What commands do I use to create anew config.inp file?
[18:35] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[18:35] <dualbootah> can someone help me
[18:36] <MrNthDegree> !question
[18:36] <ikonia> maujhsn: what application use a config.inp file ?
[18:36] <dante123> let me pastebin u all....ikonia and ActionParsnip....hang on...this is what I want to try
[18:36] <dr_willis> !Ask
[18:36] <terry> dualbootah: Only if you ask a question.
[18:36] <aetas> MrNthDegree, thanks
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> !ff5
[18:36] <dualbootah> i have terry
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Yeya
[18:36] <dualbootah> my world of warcraft crashes saying it encountered a serious error
[18:36] <ikonia> oghh
[18:36] <dualbootah> i added the SET gxApi "opengl"
[18:36] <aetas> which is why no one answered
[18:36] <dualbootah> and it still wont owkr
[18:36] <ikonia> dualbootah: have you considered asking for help in #winehq where the specialist wine support is
[18:36] <dualbootah> i have
[18:36] <dualbootah> and no one knows the answer
[18:36] <Pici> dualbootah: Did you look at the url I gave you earlier, or in the channel I told you to ask in?
[18:37] <terry> dualbootah: Are you running gentoo?
[18:37] <dualbootah> im running ubuntu
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: they know about all the config tweaks and glitches needed
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: you're running wine
[18:37] <dualbootah> i aksed
[18:37] <dualbootah> no one knows in there
[18:37] <dr_willis> !appdb | dualbootah
[18:37] <dante123> does this look okay?  http://pastebin.com/tunDEGXU
[18:37] <dualbootah> im aware
[18:37] <maujhsn> Ikonia projectM!
[18:37] <ikonia> dualbootah: not everything works well with wine, hence why #winehq knows all the tricks/tips and known issues
[18:37] <Pici> dualbootah: They know more than us about wine issues, its futile to ask in #ubuntu for Wine help.
[18:38] <dr_willis> there the wine forums also
[18:38] <dante123> because this is on dell mini 10v notebook and that is really the only res choice worth using
[18:38] <delac> can anyone tell me why receiving message with Pidgin or changing volume doesn't bring up the notifications anymore?
[18:39] <aetas> delac, since?
[18:39] <maujhsn> Ikonia ProjectM is the application!
[18:39] <dante123> ActionParsnip and ikonia how does that look http://pastebin.com/tunDEGXU
[18:39] <delac> aetas: i think it has been a while
[18:40] <ikonia> orys_: maujhsn I have no idea what that application is
[18:40] <iLogic> help guys, I just downloaded a .iso image of ubuntu on a mac, how do I copy it to a usb drive so I can install on another computer?
[18:40] <aetas> delac, ps ax | grep notification-area-applet
[18:40] <terry> dante123: Looks ok as long as your video card and monitor will suport 1024x600   What does xrandr say?
[18:41] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: Hey, so I was looking through that guide. It talks about here files, but I can't figure out where the code for their "CONFIRM" is.
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Raven: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[18:41] <delac> aetas:  1992 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_NotificationAreaApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=41 17169 pts/4    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto notification-area-applet
[18:41] <xibalba> hello all, is it possible to have 2 bond devices? bond0 and bond1?
[18:41] <maujhsn> Ikonia tried using the mv command but the terminal says go to mv --help
[18:42] <aetas> iLogic, I have no idea if this will work but what about "dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb" or whatever your image and flash drive is
[18:42] <ikonia> maujhsn: mv is "move" not create new file
[18:42] <aetas> delac, one sec
[18:42] <Zzarkc-20> mel: Yeah, that would be an option. regardless, I've always wanted to know how to autoinput data when the prompt asks for it. I'm sure I'll need it again soon enough.
[18:42] <dualbootah> i need to figure out this wow problem
[18:42] <maujhsn> Ikonia what command creates a new file?
[18:42] <dualbootah> why does it keep crashing!
[18:43] <ikonia> maujhsn: just open a blank file in a text editor and save it
[18:43] <iLogic> aetas: will try
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc-20: command << inputlist
[18:43] <TheTongue> um, I think pidgin is possesed
[18:43] <xibalba> hello all, is it possible to have 2 bond devices? bond0 and bond1? i've submitted this to the mailing list too, waiting on a response
[18:43] <dr_willis> iLogic:  dd wont work wuth ubuntu isos . yet.. try the pendrivelinux website for tools to put the iso in the flash
[18:43] <dante123> terry, i know it will because it has before.....problem i think is that edid is sending garbled info (this is a netbook and there have been screen hinge issues) my wifes dell is exactly the same and works with this res.....xanr doesnt recognize the rez however
[18:43] <jonatasnona> iLogic, use this app usb-creator-gtk
[18:43] <TheTongue> when my nicklist scrollbar is not at very top or very bottom
[18:43] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: How would I indicate pressing enter?
[18:43] <TheTongue> it jumbles about like its on acid
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> dualbootah: have you asked in #winehq
[18:43] <dualbootah> yes
[18:43] <xibalba> is there an advanced user ubuntu channel?
[18:43] <dualbootah> no one knows the answer
[18:44] <dualbootah> ive talked to the 4 best ppl
[18:44] <aetas> delac, in pidgin's settings under plugins do you have libnotify enabled?
[18:44] <terry> dante123: Try it and see.
[18:44] <maujhsn> Ikonia what commands do I use?
[18:44] <dante123> terry all this stuff happened after 10.04 to 10.10 so I am trying latest and forcing it to go 1024x600 through xorg.conf if possible
[18:44] <ikonia> maujhsn: open a file in a text editor, put whatever data in you want and just save it
[18:44] <iLogic> thanks guys!
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Zzarkc-20: not sure. My bash-fu is weak. Could ask in #bash as well
[18:45] <terry> dante123: What video card does it have?  What driver are you loading?
[18:45] <delac> aetas: yep
[18:45] <dante123> i put the xorg.conf in etc/X11 still right?
[18:45] <iLogic> I will try the unetbooting for mac os
[18:45] <Zzarkc-20> ActionParsnip: Ah yeha... That's a good idea. Forgot they had a channel. Thanks for the help!!!
[18:45] <terry> dante123: Yes
[18:45] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , you've helped me out before and seemed knowledgable. do you know if it's possible to have 2 sets of bonded NICs?
[18:45] <dante123> this is a dell mini 10v......some intel driver....not sure
[18:45] <maujhsn> Ikonia sudo nano?
[18:45] <ikonia> maujhsn: if you want, sure
[18:45] <[THC]AcidRain> omg
[18:45] <maujhsn> OK
[18:45] <marek_> Hi.
[18:45] <[THC]AcidRain> relay access denied. you gotta be shittin me. ive already delt with this problem
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: never used it dude. I would have replied earlier if i did as well
[18:46] <terry> xibalba: What exactly are you wanting to do?
[18:46] <dante123> can i just log out then back in or do i have to reboot in order to use xorg.conf???
[18:46] <aetas> delac, do any other notification events happen up there?
[18:47] <dr_willis> dante123:  restart x.    sudo service gdm restart    is one way
[18:47] <terry> what is meant by "bonded NICs"
[18:47] <aetas> iLogic, I dont think thats gonna work for .iso files, it would need to be .img
[18:47] <dante123> logged out and then logged back in.....still 1024x768.....cant get 1024x600   anymore ideas?  (also how to check edid data)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Dante: any bugs logged for it? Checked in the ubuntu docs? There is a very long page describing issues with lots of netbooks as well as what works well
[18:48] <aetas> iLogic, apt-get install usb-creator-gtk
[18:48] <dr_willis> dante123:  loggin/out is not the same as restarting x
[18:48] <yuvilio> anyone deal with this issue when trying to install postgres? Error: could not exec /usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/pg_ctl .... invoke-rc.d: initscript postgresql, action "start" failed.
[18:48] <delac> aetas: changing volume doesnt show the popups. and I havent noticed any others either for a while
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Terry: 2 connections with a different wan ip joined to make on interface with the combination of the speeds
[18:49] <terry> o
[18:49] <dante123> okay will try shutdown and then start again
[18:49] <dr_willis> dante123:  restart x.    sudo service gdm restart    is one way
[18:49] <iLogic> aetas: unetbooting seems to be working :)
[18:49] <aetas> iLogic, you got it working?
[18:49] <iLogic> thanks for the help, aetas, dr_willis
[18:49] <iLogic> yep
[18:49] <terry> dante123: YOu only have to log out and back in again.
[18:50] <Gunz4MiPPle> how do i connect the wifi from the cli
[18:50] <MagentoPycho> hi guys
[18:50] <dr_willis> dante123:  command is  'sudo service gdm restart'
[18:50] <aetas> iLogic, great, np :)
[18:50] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: wilist wlan scanning
[18:50] <dr_willis> logging out of x may or may not restart the x server
[18:50] <MagentoPycho> i want to redirect /admin to http://mysite/admin/admin using .htaccess
[18:50] <nyuszika7h> dante123: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:51] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning ;  sudo dhclient wlan0  #Where wlan0 is the actual interface name.
[18:51] <aetas> delac, you still have the notify panel up right?  the part where the pidgin icon should be and all?
[18:51] <dante123> well, it didn't work.....under system, pref, monitors my choices are 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.  This dell mini should run 1024x600 but no choice there.  How to check edid for monitor?
[18:51] <mardi_> hell
[18:51] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwlconfig   #With no arguments will show your wireless NIC's name.
[18:52] <delac> aetas: yes
[18:52] <dante123> Thanks for suggestios so far everyone.  I'm thinking there has to be a way to add custom resolution or force 1024x600
[18:53] <terry> dante123: What display adapter is it?
[18:53] <delac> aetas: but are those even related? I'm talking about the notify-osd popups
[18:53] <shadow98> in natty how do you change visual effects to minimal..
[18:53] <terry> dante123: What driver are you using?
[18:53] <dante123> terry, how do i check lspci?
[18:53] <terry> dante123: yes
[18:53] <alessioalex> hello
[18:53] <ciss> our ubuntu server 10.04 (virtualbox guest) freezes on boot, immediately after "Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done."
[18:53] <alessioalex> I cannot install vcprompt on Ubuntu
[18:53] <aetas> delac, ok well is the notify-osd daemon running?
[18:53] <alessioalex> can anybody help?
[18:54] <ciss> i've seen in another paste that the next step in the boot process would be to mount /dev - is this correct?
[18:54] <ikonia> alessioalex: you need to ask a question for someone to help
[18:54] <Gunz4MiPPle> thanks terry, but its not working
[18:54] <shadow98> how do i set the minimum visual effects in natty?
[18:54] <delac> aetas: not at the moment :) I killed it while trying to restart it. For some reason it never came up again
[18:54] <dante123> intel 945gm/gms/gme
[18:54] <alessioalex> I followed the instructions from here, but I get "vcprompt command not found" : http://vcprompt.com/
[18:54] <dante123> terry
[18:54] <alessioalex> fresh Ubuntu installation 11.04
[18:55] <terry> Gnurdux: What is the NIC's name?
[18:55] <delac> aetas: and I tried to restart it because of the lack of popups
[18:55] <dante123> how to get edid info terry et al
[18:55] <aetas> ciss, I believe so
[18:55] <terry> dante123: xrandr    #What does that tell you?
[18:56] <ikonia> alessioalex: what instructions
[18:56] <aetas> delac, did it die off?
[18:56] <ciss> aetas: then what could possibly prevent /dev from being mounted, without giving any errors?
[18:56] <shadow98> how do i set the minimum visual effects in natty?
[18:56] <alessioalex> curl <url> chmod
[18:56] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What it the NIC name?  What does  iwconfig tell  you?
[18:56] <alessioalex> and export..
[18:56] <delac> aetas: yes, it did die
[18:56] <dante123> terry it says min 320x200, max 4096x4096 and gives the three resolutions i mentioned before plus the refresh rates
[18:56] <ikonia> alessioalex: what is the output you get after the curl command
[18:56] <delac> aetas: and I was kinda expecting it to restart itself, but it didnt
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry:
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> err
[18:57] <dante123> i have my wifes dell mini 10v which i could use to compare with
[18:57] <alessioalex> Everything's fine, I don't get any error
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> wifi@realtek
[18:57] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: Yes?
[18:57] <alessioalex> I made it with sudo
[18:57] <delac> aetas: and I dont know any command to start it again
[18:57] <ikonia> alessioalex: what does "ls -la ~/bin/vcprompt" give you
[18:57] <Gunz4MiPPle> it says wifi@realtek
[18:57] <alessioalex> -rwxr-xr-x 1 alessio alessio 19228 2011-07-22 21:49 /home/alessio/bin/vcprompt
[18:58] <aetas> delac, /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-os
[18:58] <terry> dante123: Then those are the screen size resolutions you have available to you with the driver  you are using now.   Which one is it using now?
[18:58] <ikonia> alessioalex: please do PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[18:58] <ThatSnail> Hi, sorry if this is a dumb question; I'm trying to access an environmental variable from a .sh file but it turns up blank.
[18:58] <dante123> terry my wife is running 10.04 on hers and it gives more resolutions with same graphics card
[18:58] <ikonia> alessioalex: then try vcpompt
[18:58] <ikonia> vcprompt
[18:58] <dante123> terry, how to tell what driver?
[18:58] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What is the essid name of the router?
[18:58] <Bibesko> hi
[18:58] <Gunz4MiPPle> LOVEBOMB
[18:58] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: please don't
[18:58] <terry> dante123: xrandr
[18:59] <terry> dante123: No sorry.....
[18:59] <tzhuang> hello
[18:59] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: this is a support channel, we don't need random offtopic outbursts
[18:59] <alessioalex> ikonia it seems to work now
[18:59] <alessioalex> thanks
[18:59] <ikonia> alessioalex: ther eyou go
[18:59] <Gunz4MiPPle> ikonia: are you reading my conversation
[18:59] <tzhuang> i have a shared desktop between my dual boot winxp and ubuntu natty
[18:59] <terry> dante123:
[18:59] <terry> dante123: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:59] <dante123> terry i have xrandr on screen for this computer and my wifes (which is working in 1024x600)
[18:59] <ikonia> Gunz4MiPPle: ha, I've just realised it was you SID - sorry
[18:59] <tzhuang> problem is, shortcuts on my windows don't work in ubuntu
[18:59] <Gunz4MiPPle> np lol
[18:59] <dante123> you mean open that file terry?
[18:59] <tzhuang> and sym links in ubuntu don't work in win
[19:00] <tzhuang> anyone have a solution to this?
[19:00] <ikonia> tzhuang: shortcuts ?
[19:00] <tzhuang> like windows shortcuts. they show up as [shortcut_name].lnk in ubuntu
[19:00] <tzhuang> folder shortcuts?
[19:00] <ikonia> tzhuang: windows shortcuts won't work in Ubuntu
[19:00] <tzhuang> i know that
[19:01] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwconfig wifi@realtek essid LOVEBOMB
[19:01] <seanzy> does anybody else hate unity?
[19:01] <ikonia> tzhuang: they are a a different format
[19:01] <ikonia> seanzy: this isn't the channel for that sort of thing
[19:01] <dante123> okay terry , i have the log files open on both....what am i looking for?
[19:01] <ikonia> seanzy: if you don't like it, don't use it
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia: and symbolic links don't seem to work in windows
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia:  the quetion is
[19:01] <ikonia> tzhuang: the answer is "no"
[19:01] <tzhuang> ikonia: is there a problem to replace the both fo them
[19:01] <alex--> lol
[19:01] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: And then: dhclient wifi@realtek
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: *solution
[19:02] <mang0> Hm. I'm looking for getting my UC-Logic tablet working properly in ubuntu, but the forum page I've found is for ubuntu 9.04.....
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: there's no a format that both will recognize?
[19:02] <dante123> terry what am I looking for in this log file?
[19:02] <ikonia> tzhuang: no
[19:02] <crf> hi, how should desktop entry files be named? application.desktop?
[19:02] <tzhuang> ikonia: that's unfortunate =( thanks for the help
[19:02] <george_> hey guys i close the lid so the netbook suspends right? but i see random colors on the screen and my caps lock key goes crazy
[19:02] <mang0> tzhuang: what? a format that windows and that ubuntu recognises?
[19:03] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: Of course, you have to preface those commands with sudo
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry its
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> grr
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle>  Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>"
[19:03] <aetas> george_, not necessarily no, only if ACPI is setup for it
[19:03] <Gunz4MiPPle> but it says adapter not found
[19:03] <ThatSnail> Hey, have a problem with a shell script, there's an environment variable that I have defined in .profile and .bashrc; env makes it appear in root but not in a shell script.  Any ideas?
[19:03] <dante123> terry, it looks to me that it is using the intel driver
[19:03] <alessioalex> ikonia another thing: every time I install gVim, I don't get any shortcut and I don't get any icon
[19:03] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: is   WIFI@REALTEK   really the NIC name of the wifi device?
[19:04] <mang0> !tablet
[19:04] <alessioalex> what's that all about?
[19:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> SET failed on device WIFI@REALTEK ; No such device.
[19:04] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: What does iwconfig say it is?
[19:04] <george_> aetas: what do u mean??
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: where are you looking for an icon ?
[19:04] <alessioalex> Applications ... somewhere
[19:04] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry  Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>"
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: it is in there,
[19:04] <mang0> !uc-logic
[19:04] <alessioalex> I just want to put it at the top (near the Firefox icon)
[19:04] <jerk> hello there... I have the "BOOTMGR is missing" problem... I made a usb boot stick of ubuntu 10.04 32 bit, and booted it from boot menu. however, I get the message that BOOTMGR is missing, and I should press alt ctrl delete for rebbot
[19:04] <ikonia> alessioalex: you have to create your own launcher next to the firefox icon
[19:04] <aetas> george_, when you close your netbook the computer sends an ACPI event to the kernel notifying it that it needs to suspend, which the computer can ignore or isnt even setup to receive it
[19:05] <dante123> terry...have you abandoned me????
[19:05] <jerk> oh and yeah, i used unetbootin (for windows)
[19:05] <dualbootah> i made a log of my wow error
[19:05] <dualbootah> http://pastebin.com/mZvDDzCf
[19:05] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: iwconfig <wirleless-NIC-name-here> essid <essid-of-router-here> ; dhclient <wireless-NIC-name-here>
[19:05] <terry> dante123: No
[19:05] <dualbootah> can someone read it over
[19:05] <ikonia> dualbootah: you've been give options
[19:06] <alex--> "You can skip this step if your distribution’s package manager provides a sparsehash package that you can install. "
[19:06] <alex--> does apt-get provides a sparsehash?
[19:06] <terry> dante123: Let me first ask you this?  You have upgraded to 10.10, Right?
[19:06] <terry> dante123: Have you done:  sudo apt-get upgrade   Yet?
[19:07] <terry> dante123: If not, do so now.  And then see what you get.
[19:07] <dante123> terry, originally all worked under 10.04.....then after 10.10 (this is my wife's friends netbook) problem happened.  I know that edid on this netbook is not being read....the system defaults to 1024x768 ever since then.  So I decided to install 11.04 celan fresh install
[19:08] <delac> aetas: seems the popups came back. thanks!
[19:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry: durp, i thot you mean Nickname, not the name of the nic
[19:08] <jerk> can anyone help, then?
[19:08] <aetas> dualbootah, pm me
[19:08] <Gunz4MiPPle> ROLF
[19:08] <aetas> delac, awesome :)
[19:08] <dante123> but still resolution is 1024x768 terry, I believe there is soemthing wrong with lcd screen sending incorrect or messed up edid info to the system....hence it does not know that this can support 1024x600..
[19:10] <terry> dante123: Did you use ubuntu-10.04.1   or  ubuntu-10.04.2 ?
[19:10] <dante123> 10.10 and upgrade is not part of the problem really, something wrong with edid info and the system does  not realize that this lcd monitor can go into 1024x600....I am trying to force it somethow into 1024x600...becase then all will be well in the universe
[19:10] <aetas> dante123, any chance you have an nvidia card for it?
[19:10] <terry> dante123: It depends on the video driver.
[19:11] <ciss> i've enabled verbose output in grub. my 10.04 server freezes after the line: "EXT4-fs (dm-0): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode". any ideas?
[19:11] <botthead> hi dudes, one question... does the livecd has an option for load it to ram instead of being a live'cd' ?
[19:11] <george__> aetas: hey, strange, when i click suspend, the random colors appear again, and the light on my caps lock key starts blinking
[19:11] <terry> dante123: sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <dante123> terry, this was probably running fine with ubuntu 10.04.1 originally......what the woman did in between me installing 10.04.1 is anyones guess....when she brought it back to me it was 10.10 and rez was messed up....and no, this does not have nvidia graphics....intel
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> dante123: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[19:11] <ciss> .. the "freezing" being more of a "hanging", since keyboard input is still displayed
[19:11] <jerk> thanks anyway
[19:12] <aetas> george__, looks like ACPI is confused as hell
[19:12] <george__> aetas: is there a way to fix it??
[19:12] <aetas> george__, what netbook is this?
[19:12] <dante123> ActionParsnip it is intel mobile 845gme
[19:12] <dante123> sorry ActionParsnip intel 945gme
[19:12] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: ROLF  ?   is that in the output of   iwconfig ?
[19:13] <george__> aetas: its an HP Mini 210 1010NR with proprietary driver wl installed
[19:13] <botthead> plz, i want to check a dvd md5sum and i really dont want to install it to hd because it will take me a lot of time... and i just need it for doing a simple task... any hints on how to? i dont need x...just a shell whit noX and whit the cd driver available
[19:13] <seanzy> how can you resize the icons in the launcher in unity?
[19:13] <Gunz4MiPPle> terry: yes, there is something called Nickname, but you meant the adapters name, which is wlan2
[19:13] <george__> seanzy: a program called ccsm will help u out on that
[19:14] <dante123> ActionParsnip how do i get edid info from monitor?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> dante123: you could use the xorg edgers ppa as a very last resort. Its experimental but may fix stuff, may also break stuff but ppa-purge may be able to remove it and reinstall the bad packages
[19:14] <botthead> Welll... just like i tought... downloading and burning ubuntu was a waste of time... time to go back to the old 'n reliable rescuecd... thanks for nothing anyway.
[19:14] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: If so:  iwconfig wlan2 essid LOVEBOB ; dhclient wlan2
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> dante123: if edid isn't given by default then it doesn't do it
[19:15] <terry> Gunz4MiPPle: NIC -  Network Interface Card  (Sorry I should have said what is the network name for your Wireless Netwrok Interface.)
[19:15] <dante123> ActionParsnip and terry, i really think this problem is with edid because even bios now shows up using 1024x768 instead of 1024x600......something physically messed up...not just drivers
[19:16] <Gunz4MiPPle> i shoudl have known thats what you meant
[19:16] <terry> dante123: bios shows screensize resolution?
[19:16] <mang0> Guys I found this page whilst trying to sort my graphics tablet out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen But it's for 9.04. Will it still work in 11.04?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Dante123: that's all i got. Its one reason i always buy nvidia:-)
[19:17] <dante123> terry, when booting the computer (my wifes with exact same hardware) and her friends (messed up one) you can see from the bios screen by the location of the dell logo that they are in different resolutions.....so this is PRIOR to any OS running
[19:17] <aetas> george__, I can't find anything on google relating to it :(
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: worth a try. Just be sure you can roll back whatever you do
[19:18] <dante123> Is there a way to access edid information from command line.....?  like lspci, or lsusb,,,,some other command?
[19:18] <mang0> ActionParsnip: I've got no idea how to roll back anything on ubuntu :/
[19:18] <terry> dante123: Then see what you have on your wife's PC and duplicate it.
[19:18] <mang0> are there terminal commands to undo the last command ActionParsnip ?
[19:18] <terry> dante123: But did you do   apt-get upgrade    yet?  If not. do so now.  Ok?
[19:18] <dante123> terry, wife is running 10.04 and this is running 11.04 so exact duplication is not possible I dont think
[19:18] <aetas> george__, I have some stuff to try if you wanna pm me
[19:19] <dante123> terry, already ran update manager after fresh install of 11.04
[19:19] <TheCyph3r> Question: If I use the "sudo su" command, how can I revert OUT of root in that shell?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: if a guide tells you to edit a file, make a backup copy somewhere else. Its not ubuntu specific
[19:19] <mang0> ActionParsnip: gotcha, thanks
[19:19] <dante123> terry, why should I run upgrade if I just did a fresh install and updated everything after that (will do it if you really think it will help)
[19:19] <th0r> TheCyph3r: exit
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Mang0: if its bad you can simply restore the known good file
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm
[19:20] <mang0> yeah, I see. thankyou
[19:20] <terry> dante123:  Then look at what you have on the wife's and duplicate it on the other one.  lsmod  will tell you the modules.  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  will show you X's log file.
[19:20] <dante123> terry, just ran it and there is nothing to upgrade....already running the latest
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> how do i get phpbb3 to relay with my email? i was sure this thing was working 2 months ago
[19:20] <alex--> how can i get something like this? : http://84.27.25.180/images/eth0-day.png
[19:20] <[THC]AcidRain> but now im getting emails saying relay access denied
[19:20] <ikonia> [THC]AcidRain: check the phpbb forums
[19:20] <Arcademan> May I ask is there a way to disable the unity dock in Ubuntu 11.04 :)
[19:21] <terry> dante123: You run upgrade to make sure all packages are up to date.
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Dante123: if you run Natty in a live cd, is it ok?
[19:21] <ikonia> [THC]AcidRain: your MTA needs to have your domain setup in the smtp relay parameter
[19:21] <th0r> alex--: nagios?
[19:21] <dante123> terry, i compared the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the main difference I see is around edid (wife's computer lists make of monitor etc.) and resolution modes
[19:21] <alex--> what does nagios does?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !classic |arcademan
[19:21] <th0r> alex--: http://84.27.25.180/images/eth0-day.png
[19:21] <alex--> i mean
[19:21] <alex--> is it a webpage?
[19:21] <alex--> webapp?
[19:21] <alex--> program?
[19:22] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> !info nagios
[19:22] <terry> dante123: what you are looking for is the video driver.
[19:22] <alex--> does it needs a gui?
[19:22] <ikonia> alex--: it's overkill for you, it's a full monitoring suite
[19:22] <Arcademan> Is there another way without changing to gnome classic :)
[19:22] <alex--> why overkill?
[19:22] <th0r> alex--: it is an app you install on a server. It collects snmp data from network nodes and creates those graphs from that data
[19:22] <dante123> ActionParsnip, no, same thing.  Runs in 1024x768 no matter what livecd, ubuntu, BIOS
[19:22] <ikonia> alex--: because it's a full enterprise monitoring tool that needs to be installed, setup and maintained, and you just want a graph for your network card
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Terry: intel drivers are part of a default install
[19:22] <dante123> well not bios setup, but logo screen before booting
[19:23] <alex--> ikonia: i also want to see where traffic goes to
[19:23] <terry> ActionParsnip: Ok, good info.
[19:23] <dwatkins> alex--: that screenshot looks like "MRTG", it needs no GUI and can run in the background
[19:23] <ikonia> alex--: nagios won't do that
[19:23] <Arcademan> Is there a dockable weather App in unity :) may I ask where the extension are placed
[19:24] <alex--> is it nagios or MRGT?
[19:24] <alex--> !info MRGT
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> dante123: I've used puppy Linux in the past to make an xorg.conf file then copied it to my installed ubuntu
[19:24] <dante123> terry, the driver is same as my wifes computer.....intel 945 gme.....the problem is that the monitor is not detected properly.....it does not recognize what the monitor can do.....refresh rates,resolutions etc.....becasue I believe there is a hardware problem....what i am trying to do is force it into 1024x600
[19:24] <bbird1999> !!
[19:25] <th0r> alex--: that is mrtg
[19:25] <alex--> is mrtg easier?
[19:26] <dante123> ActionParnsip, I have used puppy like that too......aside from the fact that I do not have puppy on usb handy....though....I think solution will come from editing existing xorg.conf to get the resolutiion we need.
[19:26] <terry> dante123: I do not think you can force it to use 1024x600 Unless the driver software says you can, it's not gonna happen.  xrandr - what you see is what you get.  Unless you can run a different driver or a diferent kernel that has built in driver that will support it.
[19:26] <jakemp> It would be nice if ubuntu one had something set up so that I could use it to communicate(something like ssh or http) with all of my other ubuntu machines wherever I was.
[19:27] <aetas> dante123, edit xorg.conf?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> dante123: xorg.conf will tell it. The screen/video chip just isn't playing well with your version of xorg
[19:28] <dante123> terry, u r probably right, but I have edited xorg.conf before on another system where acer monitor did not give the edid info correctly and by having refresh rate and resolutions in there....was able to get it to display res i wanted
[19:29] <terry> dante123: was that with a CRT monitor?
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: you can. I do it e every day. Just use port forwarding. Different port forwarding to each host
[19:29] <alexleon> ugh this new frostwire sucks -.- there is a program like frostwire but the old one?
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> !gnutella | alexleon
[19:30] <dante123> ActionParsnip, then how do you explain that bios spash screen display differently on the exact same netbooks......something has happened to this pc itself...where even spash screens appear different (whereas when they were first purchased were identical)
[19:30] <jakemp> yeah, ActionParsnip  but something a bit more seamless and easier. I can set up a shared directory between all of my machines, but Ubuntu one is so much easier
[19:30] <alexleon> i wanna download sigle mp3's
[19:31] <jakemp> It just seems like a good next step
[19:31] <aetas> alexleon, telling us the feature you're looking for is probably better
[19:31] <dante123> terry, that was a monitor that was NOT crt but ubuntu detected it as such.......again edid issues
[19:31] <alex--> what's the difference between ubuntu server 32 bit and ubuntu server 64 bit?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> dante123: the bios is its own thing. So will always show the splash. It will even shos it if you installed ubuntu server which has no graphical desktop at a
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> All
[19:32] <terry> alex--: 32bit libraries in one, 64bit libraries in the other.
[19:32] <alex--> nothing else ?
[19:32] <alexleon> aetas the old frostwire used to show wich one is mp3 but the new one doesnt it shows only bog torrents i wanna find songs one by one
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> alex--: 64 bit will only run on 64 bit cpu. 32bit will run both
[19:33] <alex--> and about ram?
[19:33] <terry> alex--:  More than that, different kernel etc.
[19:33] <alex--> windows had some problem only couldn't take 3 gb ram
[19:33] <dante123> ActionParsnip, how do you explain how a computer that once had Dell Logo on bootup centred in the middle of screen, suddenly has it lowered and cut off?  Hardware issue...that happens to correspond with display issues that came up in ubuntu.
[19:33] <joshmc> alex--: that may be limited by the model of your processor, maybe not
[19:33] <alex--> intel i7
[19:33] <alex--> i dont know which one
[19:33] <Aleuck> hello, i'm working with ubuntu server and i need a qemu-kvm virtual machine to use the eth0 on bridge.. how is this possible?
[19:34] <joshmc> alex--: well, then it's not likely limited by that, haha
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: you could forward to one system, then have that system mount the other systems. Acting as a center
[19:34] <dante123> Im saying that if you ran windows or anything else on this computer.......the screen is going to go into 1024x768 now (for some unknown reason) when it used to go 1024x600
[19:34] <alex--> why is 64 bit recommend then?
[19:34] <jakemp> any modern CPU is 64 bit, except atoms
[19:34] <jakemp> anything newere than a pentium
[19:34] <jakemp> 4
[19:34] <edbian> Me CPU is modern!
[19:35] <edbian> And it's 32 bits! :D
[19:35] <shj> hi! guys!
[19:35] <terry> dante123: I suppose you could try to create an xorg.conf file while running the LiveCD and then copy it to /etc/X11/ on the HD.   Use  X -configure  See what happens.
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Dante: the bios splash would show even if you had no OS installed at all. It means nothing
[19:35] <terry> dante123: Does the LiveCD show porper resolution?
[19:35] <aetas> terry, why can't he edit the one he has?
[19:35] <terry> aetas: He can.
[19:35] <jakemp> edbian, what CPU is that?
[19:35] <edbian> jakemp: Intel Celeron D from 2007
[19:36] <jakemp> okay, modern non celeron CPU
[19:36] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , you've helped me out before and seemed knowledgable. do you know if it's possible to have 2 sets of bonded NICs?
[19:36] <Spikestuff> Hi, how do I change my workstation or computer name on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:36] <aetas> terry, so what was the reason for the liveCD one?  I haven't been able to keep track
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> jakemp: is my core2duo 1
[19:36] <alex--> what are the cons and tons of me taking 64 bit ubuntu?
[19:36] <alex--> because i have a problem with starting and compiling mta server on ubuntu 64 bit
[19:36] <dante123> terry, the livecd goes into 1024x768 on this system.....so basically that is pointless
[19:36] <alex--> because the program itself is 32 bit
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> 1.2ghz dual core modern?
[19:36] <edbian> alex--: cons and tons?
[19:36] <xibalba> ActionParsnip , if it's n atom
[19:36] <aetas> alex--, 32bit binaries can run fine
[19:37] <terry> dante123: Ok then create one from your wire's PC.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: its a
[19:37] <jakemp> what c2d? I thought they were all 64 bit?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> An intel
[19:37] <alex--> advantages and disadvantages
[19:37] <xibalba> has anyone in t his chan now dont nic-bnding?
[19:37] <alex--> i can't get my mta server running aetas
[19:37] <xibalba> nic-bindongi*
[19:37] <jakemp> also, edbian pentium D is netburst architecture, so that is splitting hairs
[19:37] <terry> dante123: Create one on the wife's PC, test it, see if it works over there, then copy it to the other one and try it.
[19:37] <dante123> terry, now that makes sense
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> alex--: i suggest you research what 64bit is
[19:38] <edbian> jakemp: It's not a pentium.  but who's splitter hairs now?
[19:38] <aetas> alex--, ok well you obviously compiled it fine so what happens when you run it?
[19:38] <edbian> spittling*
[19:38] <Aleuck> I need to bridge my qemu virtual machine's network, can anyone help me?
[19:38] <alex--> no i'm stuck in compiling
[19:38] <alex--> but actually i dont need to compile
[19:38] <alex--> on my linux desktop i just open the file and it works
[19:38] <alex--> but on my linux server it gets me a access denied
[19:38] <alex--> or segmentation fault
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Jakemp: its in a dell d420  dual core 1.2ghz. 32bit architecture
[19:39] <blackhawk> hey everyone
[19:39] <shj> i just installed ubuntu in my brother laptop and @ first boot it showed me msg says something like "due to lack graphic capabilities it unity wont be able to work" and so it switched me to gnome ""no effects .... i installed the graphic card drivers but still i cant run gnome or unity i just have gnome "no effects"!
[19:39] <ikonia> alex--: what are you trying to compile ?
[19:39] <blackhawk> is this the right place for help?
[19:39] <alex--> mta-server
[19:39] <jakemp> ActionParsnip, a dell latitude?
[19:39] <ikonia> blackhawk: if it's ubuntu help, sure
[19:39] <blackhawk> cool
[19:39] <blackhawk> well i installed ubuntu and everything is fine with me till now except one problem,i'm dual booting ubuntu with windows 7,i once logged into windows and it gave me a message to restart then i restarted,everything is fine but on next restart,it didn't give me the screen which make me choose which os do i want to get into and if i don't choose it would go to ubuntu,this page didn't appear and it gave me an error and there was somthing like this written,"Grub
[19:39] <blackhawk> rescue>" or something like that,i had to reinstall ubuntu and everything came back alive,i think it is a problem between the two booting managers of windows and ubuntu,so is there something to unify both of them so this won't happen again??!!
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> jamesbond2: yes
[19:39] <jakemp> heh close enough
[19:40] <aetas> alex--, something else is going on then...if its access is denied then it means you dont have executability set or you aren't running with necessary privileges
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> ;-)
[19:40] <ikonia> !dualboot | blackhawk
[19:40] <ikonia> blackhawk: that url should explain it to you
[19:40] <shj> mmm ... can anybosy help me here plz!?
[19:40] <alex--> i get access denied with root
[19:40] <shj> anybody
[19:40] <alex--> or i get segmentation fault
[19:40] <ikonia> alex--: you shouldn't be root
[19:40] <alex--> why not
[19:40] <ikonia> alex--: the root account is locked, you shouldn't be able to be root
[19:40] <alex--> then i have enough privileges
[19:40] <alex--> no it's not
[19:40] <alex--> i changed the password of it
[19:41] <alex--> and now i can access it
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: then you should know what you're doing
[19:41] <alex--> otherwise i can't edit my websites
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: if you know enough to change the password on root, so you know better than the ubuntu developers
[19:41] <ikonia> alex--: yes, you can, that's what sudo and permissions changes are for
[19:41] <blackhawk> thanks ubutto i'll read it now
[19:41] <alex--> how to open the terminal file manager with sudo?
[19:41] <Aleuck> Hi, I have a host ubuntu server with ubuntu serveras guest OS... I need to start the guest OS on qemu-kvm in network bridging mode. can anyone help me?
[19:41] <alex--> to access my websites? because virtualmin places them into another home dir
[19:42] <llutz> alex--: sudo mc
[19:42] <alex--> thx
[19:42] <Spikestuff> How do I change my workstation or computer name on Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:42] <llutz> !hostname | Spikestuff
[19:42] <jakemp> ActionParsnip, that's not a core2duo, it's a core duo
[19:42] <shj> guys! how can i activate effects and unity ?!
[19:42] <alex--> *** The curl-config script could not be found. Make sure it is
[19:43] <alex--> *** in your path, and that curl is properly installed.
[19:43] <alex--> *** Or see http://curl.haxx.se/
[19:43] <alex--> configure: error: Library requirements (curl) not met.
[19:43] <edbian> shj: What video card do you have?
[19:43] <shj> invida
[19:43] <shj> geforece
[19:43] <ikonia> alex--: you need curl
[19:43] <alex--> ok
[19:43] <seanzy> ugg i started playing around with ccsm and now my launcher is gone
[19:43] <alex--> i insatlled it now
[19:43] <alex--> apt-get install curl
[19:43] <alex--> same error
[19:43] <ikonia> alex--: what is mta-server the thing you're trying to build
[19:44] <alex--> ikonia: i dont understand you
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: no, the curl libraries and development packages, not the binary
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: what does "mta-server" do ?
[19:44] <edbian> shj: what driver are you using?
[19:44] <alex--> host mta server ?
[19:44] <shj> edbian : recommended one!
[19:44] <alex--> ikonia: how to install the libraries and development packages?
[19:44] <ikonia> alex--: mta as in "mail transfer agent"
[19:44] <wols> alex--: what is this software you are trying to build?
[19:44] <alex--> game server
[19:44] <alex--> for gta san andreas
[19:44] <edbian> shj: which one is that?  proprietary or open source?
[19:44] <alex--> multi theft auto
[19:45] <wols> alex--: apt-cache search curl |grep curl |grep dev
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl-ocaml-dev - OCaml libcurl bindings (Development package)
[19:45] <alex--> libflickcurl-dev - C library for accessing the Flickr API - development files
[19:45] <alex--> libghc6-curl-dev - GHC 6 libraries for the libcurl Haskell bindings
[19:45] <shj> edbian : its proprietary
[19:45] <alex--> liblua5.1-curl-dev - libcURL development files for the Lua language version 5.1
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl4-gnutls-dev - Development files and documentation for libcurl (GnuTLS)
[19:45] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:45] <alex--> libcurl4-openssl-dev - Development files and documentation for libcurl (OpenSSL)
[19:45] <moegreen> hey guys whats a good desktop widget people are using to monitor their system as far as ram, cpu temp, load, etc...?
[19:45] <edbian> shj: Which one then?  (sudo lspci -k will tell you exactly which)
[19:46] <Galaxor> Hey, I'm looking for libgcj.a.  It doesn't seem to come with libgcj.a.  Is there another package that includes it?
[19:46] <alex--> wols: http://pastebin.com/Gbguecn3
[19:46] <ikonia> alex--: sorry to be awkward, but multi theft auto is a windows server, I can't see a linux version
[19:46] <jen_> ello
[19:46] <alex--> http://linux.mtasa.com/
[19:46] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[19:46] <ikonia> alex--: thank you
[19:46] <Stockholm_Angel> TURN ON THE NEWS NOW huge explosion and attack in norway
[19:47] <alex--> every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault
[19:47] <alex--> so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:47] <ikonia> alex--: the mta site says it's binary files, you don't compile it
[19:47] <edbian> ikonia: How do you know it was a lie?
[19:47] <dr_willis> alex--:  and how are you running it?
[19:47] <alex--> every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault, so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:47] <alex--> ./mta-server
[19:47] <ikonia> edbian: didn't say it was a lie
[19:47] <edbian> ikonia: Just OT for the channel?
[19:47] <alex--> dr_willis: ./mta-server
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  its a windows app. use wine.
[19:48] <alex--> it's not a windows app
[19:48] <alex--> it's for linux
[19:48] <ikonia> edbian: yup, and it happens with this user all the time
[19:48] <shj> edbian : mmm.... i got this from additional dirvers (NVIDIA graphic driver (version current) [recommended ]
[19:48] <alex--> :\
[19:48] <ikonia> dr_willis: there is a windows erver too
[19:48] <dr_willis> then chmod +x it.
[19:48] <ikonia> dr_willis: linux sorry
[19:48] <alex--> i already did
[19:48] <shj> edbian : is this helpful
[19:48] <ikonia> alex--: ok - so the file is a binary file, you don't need to compile it
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  you on 32 or 64bit?
[19:48] <alex--> alex--	every time when i run it i get permission denied or segmentation fault, so some guy in mta support said to me: compile it again
[19:48] <alex--> 64 bit
[19:48] <edbian> shj: It's too vague.  I need you to use sudo lspci -k  to see which driver is being used.
[19:48] <dr_willis> alex--:  it may be a 32bit binary.
[19:48] <ikonia> alex--: ok, so you know it's for a 32bit OS
[19:48] <Galaxor> I have some java source code.  I want to compile it down to native code and put it on a machine that doesn't have gcj or java installed, so I figured I'd compile it statically.  But I don't have libgcj.a.  Is there any package that contains that file, or do I have to build it myself?
[19:49] <alex--> ikonia: yes
[19:49] <alex--> it is a 32 bit binary
[19:49] <ikonia> alex--: the website says "The package is built on and for 32bit systems.
[19:49] <ikonia> alex--: it's quite clear
[19:49] <alex--> and?
[19:49] <alex--> how to run it?
[19:49] <shj> edbian : VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1)
[19:49] <shj> 	Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0110
[19:49] <acicula> Galaxor: apt-file might help you locate the package i think
[19:49] <dr_willis> !find libgcj.a
[19:49] <shj> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[19:49] <frank123> hello I am having issues with the "mute" key. "volume-up" and "volume-down" works well, but with the update "mute" does not work no more. The hardware is a thinkpad sl 510. xev does not recieve signals from the key. before the update it worked.
[19:49] <shj> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[19:49] <acicula> !find apt-file
[19:49] <Tigerboy> Regarding Gnome 2 how to I change settings like make it so I can single-click an icon on the desktop to launch it
[19:49] <edbian> Galaxor: any java code requires the JVM (java) to run.  That is the point of java actually.
[19:50] <aetas> alex--, I thought this was something you compiled.  its a 32bit binary they gave ya?
[19:50] <frank123> here I found a tutorial, about kernel modification how it could be fixed, but it seems to complicated for me. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SL_Driver_on_Ubuntu
[19:50] <Galaxor> acicula: Cool, thanks.
[19:50] <alex--> yes it is
[19:50] <alex--> but some guy said: compile it yourself
[19:50] <frank123> can you please fix the kernel for this hardware in the next update?
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: so a.) it's not a compile you're trying to do b.) it's a 32bit binary running on a 64bit system
[19:50] <alex--> so i'm trying to
[19:50] <edbian> shj: So kernel driver in use is nvidia :)
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: ok then ask that guy for support
[19:50] <alex--> he's gone
[19:50] <alex--> nobody answering
[19:50] <Spikestuff> Now once I edit /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and perform the hostname command, should I reboot to implement the changes?
[19:50] <Galaxor> edbian: not if you compile it to native code with gcj.  That is the point of gcj.
[19:50] <ikonia> alex--: I'm looking at the dependencies on the package and I don't think it's going to work on 11.04
[19:50] <alex--> all offtopic talk
[19:50] <edbian> shj: the first thing you said is just the card which is useful because it has the number 7300 :)
[19:50] <shj> edbian : yes! but i cant run unity!
[19:50] <dr_willis> !hostname | Spikestuff
[19:50] <alex--> ikonia: i have 10.04 lts 64 bit
[19:50] <TheCyph3r> what does unity have over standard gnome?
[19:51] <edbian> Galaxor: OH RLY?! :D
[19:51] <Spikestuff> I already did that, dr_willis, but my hostname is still the same.
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: Hmmm it looks like it's designed for 32bit systems, which is why it's built for 32bit stuff
[19:51] <dante123> terry, u still there?
[19:51] <edbian> shj: Yes, I know that.  Hang on I have to look something up.
[19:51] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  well 'standard' gnome (aka gnome2) is being phased out.
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: the dependencies suggest it's not going to build 64bit
[19:51] <dr_willis> Spikestuff:  you missed a step then i am guessing.
[19:51] <shj> edbian : sure! thanks! for trying :)
[19:51] <alex--> ikonia: how to make it work then?
[19:51] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Why??
[19:51] <ikonia> alex--: use it on a 32bit system,
[19:51] <dr_willis> Spikestuff:  do the changes then reboot.
[19:52] <aetas> alex--, whats the link for this thing?
[19:52] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  the gnome devs have decided to move on.
[19:52] <alex--> i dont have 32 bit installation
[19:52] <alex--> aetas: http://linux.mtasa.com/
[19:52] <frank123> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/SL_Driver_on_Ubuntu
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: boo...maybe I'll just stick with 10.04 forever :P
[19:52] <ikonia> aetas: has quite good documentation
[19:52] <Tigerboy> anyone know what file or program to use for gnome 2 settings?
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: btw, I found a way to rename all of those pictures very quickly
[19:52] <edbian> shj: Could you put the output of sudo lspci -k and sudo lsmod    into this website and give me the link it give you?  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <TheCyph3r> dr_willis: Thunar File Manager did the job :-)
[19:52] <edbian> shj: This is called pastebin
[19:53] <dr_willis> TheCyph3r:  rox-filer has similer features.
[19:53] <aetas> alex--, lol this is mta?  I used to work on it :p
[19:53] <shj> edbian : sure just a minute!
[19:53] <alex--> aetas: what do you mean?
[19:53] <Tigerboy> anyone can use standard gnome by just choosing classic decktop after you click the username in the log on screen
[19:53] <aetas> alex--, <-- programmer
[19:54] <dante123> how to get out of gui and drop into command line to run sudo Xorg -configure ??????
[19:54] <alex--> you are mta sa programmer?
[19:54] <edbian> shj: thanks
[19:54] <edbian> dante123: ctrl + alt + F1
[19:54] <shj> edbian : do you want the full output or just the one related to the graphic card!?
[19:54] <aetas> alex--, I used to help them with it but it was years ago
[19:54] <edbian> shj: The whole thing
[19:54] <edbian> shj: Easier for you :)
[19:54] <alex--> :)
[19:54] <alex--> can you help me out now?
[19:54] <shj> edbian : :) ok!
[19:54] <aetas> alex--, I have 64bit too, lemme try my luck
[19:56] <aetas> alex--, The MTA:SA server currently cannot be properly compiled in 64-bit mode. Instead, you should compile it in 32-bit mode and run it using 32-bit compatibility mode (use the -m32 flag).
[19:56] <shj> edbian : here is the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/650198/
[19:56] <edbian> shj: reading...
[19:56] <alex--> ./mta-server -m32 ?
[19:57] <edbian> shj: Missing the output of sudo lsmod    :)  Can I get another one with that in it?
[19:57] <acicula> aetas: not all 32bit dependencies might be available though?
[19:58] <CharlieM2304> Hi everyone! does anyone recommend me any firewall software to control the local network?
[19:58] <aetas> acicula, yeah you need the 32bit libraries
[19:58] <shj> edbian : sure! here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650199/
[19:59] <edbian> shj: No.  That's sudo lspci -k     I need sudo lsmod
[19:59] <shj> edbian : oh! sorry!
[19:59] <Darkfd> anyone know where ubuntu-tweak is hiding on irc?
[19:59] <edbian> shj: It's k
[19:59] <acicula> aetas: yeah but i mean on 64bit pnly some libs are repackaged as 32bit, so any nonstandard dependencies youd need to add
[19:59] <Aleuck> Hi, I have a host ubuntu server with ubuntu serveras guest OS... I need to start the guest OS on qemu-kvm in network bridging mode. can anyone help me?
[20:00] <acicula> Aleuck: look up libvirt, that makes doing that pretty easy, detailed documentation on how to setup bridging on the libvirt site as well
[20:00] <aetas> acicula, it runs on my 64big
[20:00] <shj> edbian : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650201/ .... hopefully that's what u want! :)
[20:00] <aetas> t
[20:00] <edbian> shj: Your username and computer name are strange
[20:00] <joeseph> I'm trying to setup sftp.  I have ssh and ftp setup. What resource is avaliable for a tutorial/walkthrough?  I'm having trouble googling one.
[20:00] <edbian> shj: Yes that's the correct pastebin
[20:01] <edbian> thanks
[20:01] <shj> edbian : yes! i will change later! :) i guess!
[20:02] <balakrishna> hi
[20:02] <edbian> shj: let's try removing the open source driver and reboot ok?  sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:03] <dualbootah> how do i find my flash drive in ubuntu
[20:03] <shj> edbian : so remove current driver and run that command?
[20:04] <aetas> acicula, we got it working, not sure what he was doing but its ok
[20:05] <edbian> shj: Running the command removes the open source driver nouveau  It is generally a good idea to have exactly 1 driver installed at a time.  The restart the machine.  We're going to try to test out the nvidia-current proprietary driver (which does support your card)
[20:06] <shj> edbian : ops! i just removed it!
[20:06] <edbian> shj: Which did you remove?
[20:06] <edbian> shj: What command did you run?
[20:06] <Kazisho> >mfw Americans call a tutti frutti point and shooty a "gun"
[20:06] <shj> edbian : i used "additional drivers"
[20:07] <edbian> shj: That's fine.  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[20:07] <edbian> shj: I don't like using that 'additional drivers' gui because it is buggy and a liar :P
[20:07] <shj> edbian : i runed the command : sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:07] <edbian> shj: good, so we don't have to do that agian.
[20:07] <edbian> shj: restart then
[20:08] <shj> edbian : ok
[20:08] <slim_gaza> hey guys is 11.04 any good yet, i tried it wen if first came out but unity just made me revert plus i have an acer timeline 4810 so it isn't powerful
[20:09] <edbian> slim_gaza: unity runs great on my netbook.  One of it's strong suits is small screens.
[20:10] <slim_gaza> edbian, so i take 11.04 is stable?
[20:10] <edbian> slim_gaza: Not as stable as 10.04 or Debian
[20:10] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, has one would say, "stable...ish"
[20:11] <slim_gaza> edbian, PhoenixSTF   ah! i'll just stick to my good o 10.10
[20:11] <shj> edbian : nothing has changed!
[20:11] <edbian> slim_gaza: sure :)
[20:11] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, thats a bad choice
[20:11] <edbian> shj: alright  so nvidia-current does not help (I didn't expect it to)
[20:11] <edbian> shj: We have many more options.  Before we switch drivers can you give me the output of dmesg in a pastebin?
[20:11] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, but if it holds until the 12.04 comes out
[20:12] <slim_gaza> PhoenixSTF, why is it bad?
[20:12] <edbian> shj: Then sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current    and sudo apt-get install nvidia-173   and restart again
[20:12] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, i think 10.10 has only 1 year or 2 of updates qhile the LTS has 3 or 4
[20:12] <ikonia> non LTS version have 18 months, LTS versions have 3 years on the desktop 5 on the server
[20:12] <acicula> slim_gaza: no its not, though it seems not everyone agrees with the choice of windowmanager, but you can just use the classic gnome look if you want
[20:13] <shj> edbian : sure!
[20:13] <slim_gaza> PhoenixSTF, oh
[20:13] <acicula> as in,its not bad
[20:13] <edbian> shj: awesome
[20:13] <slim_gaza> acicula, okay, i'll give it a spin
[20:13] <PhoenixSTF> ikonia, thanks for the info ;)
[20:13] <acicula> PhoenixSTF: 18 months for normal, 3 year for LTS, 5 year for Server
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> 11.04 its good but if it is a production entreprise enviroment i would stick to a lts
[20:14] <shj> edbian : here is the link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650209/
[20:14] <acicula> oh ikonia posted that already, nvm
[20:14] <edbian> shj: k, not runt he apt-get commands and reboot while I read.
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> acicula, all server versions?
[20:14] <acicula> PhoenixSTF: no just LTS
[20:14] <edbian> shj: wait
[20:14] <edbian> shj: there is a whole bunch of stuff about nouveau in here.  I thought we purged that?
[20:14] <PhoenixSTF> acicula, ty :)
[20:15] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:15] <dante123> if i want ubuntu 11.04 to use xorg.conf file.......do I put it in etc/X11 or is there a new place it needs to be for 11.04?
[20:15] <acicula> dante123: same old place
[20:16] <edbian> dante123: /etc/X11   :)
[20:16] <shj> edbian : ok!
[20:16] <slim_gaza> fresh install or upgrade which is better?
[20:16] <edbian> shj: ok, so what was installed and what was removed?
[20:16] <PhoenixSTF> dante123, ususaly those things dont change on ubuntu/debian
[20:16] <slim_gaza> got my stuff on dropbox anyway
[20:16] <acicula> slim_gaza: id just upgrade
[20:17] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, IMO fresh... but safe upgrade will do the trick but a lot of trash will be acumulated
[20:17] <terry> dante123: No, that's the right place.
[20:17] <slim_gaza> acicula, PhoenixSTF  thanks
[20:17] <terry> /etc/X11
[20:18] <shj> edbian : nothing removed as nivida was not found! and nivida-137is still in download ... slow connection!
[20:18] <slim_gaza> Is it only me, or are u guys tempted by the new macs and lion?
[20:18] <acicula> slim_gaza: some cruft will remain when you upgrade, but its marginally mostly, i survived 6 consequtive upgrades without any adverse effects. just gotta watch out if you have customized things like nvidia drivers installed by hand
[20:18] <PhoenixSTF> slim_gaza, im with acicula on this one, safe-upgrade it, if you fell it isnt good just fresh install
[20:18] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau        This needs to happen.  Did it?
[20:18] <edbian> shj: without errors?
[20:18] <slim_gaza> aright guys thanks, upgrading now
[20:18] <rww> slim_gaza: It's just you and #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <PhoenixSTF> LOL
[20:19] <dante123> terry, okay i think i made a xorg.conf from my wifes computer and ubuntu 11.04 livecd.....will try same file on the other computer
[20:19] <slim_gaza> haha very funny rww
[20:19] <shj> edbian : home@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current
[20:19] <shj> Reading package lists... Done
[20:19] <shj> Building dependency tree
[20:19] <shj> Reading state information... Done
[20:19] <edbian> shj: don't do that!
[20:19] <FloodBot1> shj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <shj> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[20:19] <shj>   dkms screen-resolution-extra
[20:20] <slim_gaza> rww i am sure you are probably drooling over the apple store's site at this very moment :P
[20:20] <ANdrw> _12321
[20:20] <acicula> slim_gaza: take a hint when its offered?
[20:21] <shj> floodbot1 : sure! sorry for that!
[20:21] <edbian> shj: I don't care about those extra packages right now.  We'll clean them all up when we're done.  Did you do this:  sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[20:21] <slim_gaza> acicula, sure just mocking about
[20:22] <slim_gaza> thanks anyways for the info guys
[20:22] <acicula> slim_gaza: thats what -offtopic is for ;)
[20:22] <shj> edbian : just a moment its installing nvida-173 now!
[20:23] <edbian> shj: k
[20:23] <shj> edbian : ok! i ran the command
[20:23] <blackhawk> is the grub app come already installed in ubuntu?
[20:23] <aetas> guys whats the command that brings up an ncurses dialog that you can implement in a shell script?  cant remember the name :/
[20:23] <edbian> shj: ok, so nvidia-173 is installed.  and nouveau is purged?
[20:23] <aetas> it was like "dialog" or something
[20:24] <edbian> shj: restart and if it doesn't work then give me dmesg in a pastebin again
[20:24] <shj> edbain : it says "not installed so not removed"
[20:24] <rww> !info dialog | aetas
[20:24] <rww> so yes, dialog :P
[20:24] <edbian> shj: that's what the nouveau purge command said?
[20:24] <aetas> rww, thats not it is it?
[20:25] <alex--> rww: The program 'dialog' is currently not installed.
[20:25] <aetas> lol yeah I guess it is
[20:25] <rww> aetas: looks like it is to me :|
[20:25] <rww> alex--: and?
[20:25] <shj> edbian : it says : xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is not installed, so not removed
[20:25] <alex--> is there any other way
[20:25] <alex--> by not installing it?
[20:25] <xibalba> hey guys
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, ok alex yeah do read
[20:25] <xibalba> has anyone here done dual nic-bonding
[20:25] <edbian> shj: strange... ok restart and give me the output of dmesg again
[20:25] <rww> ,lastlog alex--
[20:25] <xibalba> like having a bond0 and bond1 interface?
[20:25] <alex--> read?
[20:25] <rww> eep
[20:25] <alex--> or dialog?
[20:25] <Caelum> What is the windows installer? Does it run ubuntu in some sort of VM? Is it better than using VirtualBox?
[20:25] <xibalba> anybody?
[20:25] <shj> edbian :
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, dialog draws a little ncurses GUI but if they're not shipping it default then use read
[20:25] <edbian> shj: restart and give me dmesg   and lspci -k and lsmod
[20:25] <xibalba> i've been asking for hours here, but too much data flies by
[20:25] <shj> edbian : ok!
[20:25] <alex--> i just want plain text
[20:25] <edbian> shj: k great
[20:25] <alex--> not a dialog
[20:25] <aetas> alex--, read
[20:25] <rww> Caelum: no, it runs Ubuntu on the actual hardware with the root partition mounted to a loopback filesystem in C:\wubi
[20:25] <terry> dante123: See my pm
[20:26] <RobinJ> what the shit?
[20:26] <xibalba> i've also posted to the mailing list, but my email has gone through yet
[20:26] <Caelum> rww: oh I see, thank you
[20:26] <RobinJ> ubuntu just froze.... how can i flter all those useless crap out of my dmesg logs?
[20:26] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, in terminal?
[20:26] <RobinJ> i need to see what caused the error, not things about my wireless
[20:27] <RobinJ> Phoenix6780: GUI or terminal, doesnt matter
[20:27] <dante123> terry see my reply
[20:27] <edbian> RobinJ: It puts most recent stuff at the bottom of dmesg.  There is a time stamp next to it.  The freeze is probably the most recent thing.
[20:27] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, cat "File" | grep "parameter you are searching for"
[20:28] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, example, cat /var/log/secure | grep login
[20:28] <RobinJ> ed1703: only the timestamps arent readable to human beings xd
[20:28] <aetas> RobinJ, so "dmesg | grep login"
[20:28] <RobinJ> parameter...what parameter
[20:28] <edbian> RobinJ: They're second from when the computer started.
[20:28] <xibalba> is there a more advanced ubuntu channel
[20:28] <xibalba> where someone could answer this?
[20:28] <xibalba> #ubuntu-server is quiet, no one responds
[20:28] <ikonia> xibalba: why do you need a more advanced channel
[20:28] <acicula> xibalba: do you have a specific question?
[20:28] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, parameter is hwat are you lokiin for in the line, if it says Login, Robin, Error or something
[20:29] <aetas> xibalba, you can ask but let em know in advance so you don't get chased out
[20:29] <xibalba> ikonia , acicula , yes i do have a specific question
[20:29] <ikonia> xibalba: this channel is more than capable of answering simple things like nic bonding
[20:29] <ikonia> xibalba: then ask it
[20:29] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, try the example i told you you get the picture
[20:29] <RobinJ> Phoenix6780: i know how grep works...... but how do i know whats important in the dmesg logs
[20:29] <xibalba> ikonia , let me repost my whole Q. I started asking a few hours ago, can you hang on just a moment?.
[20:29] <ikonia> yes
[20:29] <blackhawk> anyone know if grub is preinstalled in ubuntu?
[20:30] <xibalba> ikonia , this is my interface config from /etc/network/interface -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/650125/
[20:30] <acicula> blackhawk: its installed during installation yes
[20:30] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, your computer crashed? try searching for the time it whent down!
[20:30] <xibalba> i have also tried using - inplace of _
[20:30] <justine777w> Hello. I just downloaded Ubuntu 10.04 to my dell laptop but my wireless is disabled and I am unable to click on it to enable it. I do not know why this is happening. Help?
[20:30] <xibalba> so putting - did the trick, however only bond0 come up
[20:30] <ikonia> xibalba: ok
[20:30] <PhoenixSTF> RobinJ, sorry but i dont Know more hoe to do it.
[20:30] <xibalba> and bond0 is showing it's down and in a RoundRobin setup, when I'm trying for fail over
[20:30] <blackhawk> good,so it over writes the windows boot manager
[20:30] <RobinJ> would be around 22:27... but the dmesg timestamps arent actually timestamps as human beings would write them down are they
[20:30] <shj> edbian : nothing has changed! dmesg output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650215/
[20:31] <Daghdha> I am streaming a video from my unbuntu over SMB. runs fine. Untill i delete a file from the same volume remotely. Then it stops untill the the disks from my raid have wakened. Sound familar/logical?
[20:31] <blackhawk> then why did i had problems booting
[20:31] <acicula> justine777w: can you try connecting a cable and let ubuntu update first?
[20:31] <ikonia> xibalba: how are you trying to fail it over ?
[20:31] <Daghdha> the raid is a totally different volume.
[20:31] <acicula> blackhawk: idk, what do you see at boot?
[20:32] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm trying to use bond-mode 1, ut it looks like is defaulting to bond mode 0
[20:32] <justine777w> acicula: yes, i updated and everything as well as restarted. it still does not work.
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: what makes you think that
[20:32] <xibalba> i can only do screen captures now because i only have IPMI access
[20:32] <shj> edbian : and lsmod : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650217/
[20:32] <xibalba> ikonia , how do you propose i uplaod some screen shots?
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: I don't want screen shots
[20:32] <ikonia> xibalba: I want to know why you think it's running in mode 0
[20:32] <acicula> justine777w: does the Additional driver tool list a driver for the wireless?
[20:32] <edbian> shj: reading...
[20:33] <blackhawk> acicula it gives me "error" and "grub rescue"
[20:33] <xibalba> ikonia , ok. I checked /proc/net/bonding/bond0
[20:33] <xibalba> i cat'd that file.
[20:33] <ikonia> xibalba: and it shows mode 0 ?
[20:33] <edbian> he quit
[20:33] <edbian> wow
[20:33] <blackhawk> just black screen with those
[20:33] <edbian> shj: You're back
[20:33] <acicula> blackhawk: did you install on a usb disk?
[20:33] <blackhawk> yes
[20:33] <edbian> shj: I am NO CLUE why nouveau is running instead of nvidia.  It isn't even installed!  Can I see sudo lspci -k please?
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , i guess not it's saying "bonding Mode: faul-tolerance (active-backup)"
[20:34] <blackhawk> no,sorry,i did it FROM a usb
[20:34] <xibalba> so that is correctly setting bond-mode 1
[20:34] <edbian> Why is nouveau running on shj's system even though he has purged xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  ??
[20:34] <ikonia> xibalba: right, so it's running in the right mode
[20:34] <justine777w> acicula: where can I find that? I know I have wireless on this laptop. I had 10.10 before but it crashed so I installed 10.04. Now the wireless will not work. I had to do something before when I had 10.10 but I do not remember what it was,
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , ok well that sa good start from where i was before
[20:34] <boywonder> hi,im trying to recover some hd space on a win partition,ive currently got the un partitioned space/formated,can anyone point me in the right direction of what i need todo or use gparted is proving un realiable?
[20:34] <xibalba> but my bond1 interface is not found
[20:34] <shj> edbian : i had a connection problem >> sure!
[20:34] <xibalba> ikonia , i tried ifconfg bond1
[20:34] <xibalba> and it says no device
[20:35] <edbian> shj: what?
[20:35] <alex--> how to prompt a user in ubuntu server
[20:35] <edbian> shj: oh, with you quitting and joining?
[20:35] <alex--> echo, and if he presses y then do thing1
[20:35] <ikonia> xibalba: does ifconfig show eth2 and 3 ?
[20:35] <alex--> and if he presses n then do thing2
[20:35] <alex--> how
[20:35] <ikonia> alex--: that's not very easy to do
[20:35] <acicula> blackhawk: are there multiple partitions on that disk? probably a bios issue preventing grub from seeing its boot files at boot, i had it too, solved it by making a small partition holding /boot at the start of the disk. it still gives errors but will boot (eventually)
[20:35] <shj> edbian : here is the output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650219/
[20:35] <alex--> ikonia: any other way?
[20:35] <alex--> because i want to ask the user if he want's to edit
[20:36] <edbian> shj: reading...
[20:36] <alex--> otherwise lets continue the script
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: I just said it's not very easy, I didn't suggest a method
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia , checking
[20:36] <alex--> hmm :P
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: you'd have to write a shell script wrapper
[20:36] <edbian> shj: nouveau is still listed there too!!!
[20:36] <alex--> a what?
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia , yes ifconfig shows eth0-3
[20:36] <ikonia> alex--: a shell script to act as a wrapper
[20:36] <edbian> shj: Hang on...
[20:36] <alex--> what's that?
[20:36] <acicula> justine777w: you had 10.10 working before? how old is this laptop? do you have a brand name/model?
[20:36] <shj> edbain : ok! sure! :)
[20:36] <boywonder> ill wait patiently thanks
[20:36] <xibalba> ikonia,  I have a total of 2 NIC cards in the server, each card is dual port
[20:36] <edbian> shj: open synaptic and search for the word nouveau
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Hello whitehats.. Please I have a serious problem... Any CD i insert into my ubuntu (11.04) machine's drive does not boot. I am trying to create a virtualbox. VM installs but when it's time to boot from the CD I get an error saying "FATAL: No bootable media found! System halted". I tried the same CD on another person's PC and it reads correcty. Please help, why can't my drive detect the XP boot CD?
[20:37] <ikonia> alex--: a shell script is a set of commands put together to do what you tell it to
[20:37] <ikonia> xibalba: ok, good news is that it's seeing the 2 physical nics
[20:37] <ikonia> xibalba: are both dual port cars the same model/brand ?
[20:37] <acicula> justine777w: and/or ist installing 10.10 or 11.04 an option? might simply be that the wireless support for your nic was not added to 10.04 yet?
[20:37] <ikonia> wh1zz0: this is ubuntu support, not "white hats"
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Sorry
[20:37] <wh1zz0> Please help
[20:38] <justine777w> acicula: i am not sure. I guess I could put 10.10 on here since I know the wireless will work
[20:38] <xibalba> ikonia, both dual ports are not the same exact NIC card model. They ar eboth intels, I have matched the bond interfaces with the respective NIC sets. So Bond0 is using the same nic on both ports, bond1 should be using the same nic on both ports too
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: if the cd works on other machines, but not this one, it suggests your cd drive has a problem
[20:38] <shj> edbain : ok! the frameware is no installed!!
[20:38] <alex--> ikonia: can you help me with it?
[20:38] <wh1zz0> The CD drive is good
[20:38] <ikonia> alex--: no, it's quite complex
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: how do you know
[20:38] <shj> edbian : i mean firmware
[20:38] <alex--> :(
[20:38] <xibalba> ikonia , they're both Intel Pro/1000, but slightly different models
[20:38] <ikonia> xibalba: the reason I was asking to make sure both had support for bonding but all intels are pretty good so that's not a concern
[20:38] <wh1zz0> I used it to watch a movie just before I installed ubuntu 2 days ago
[20:38] <alex--> like sensors haves
[20:38] <edbian> shj: the firmware is not* or now* ?
[20:38] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok - but that doesn't mean it's good now
[20:38] <alex--> "do you want to search for them (yes/no) ?"
[20:39] <alex--> ikonia: ^
[20:39] <alex--> lm-sensors does the job
[20:39] <ikonia> alex--: I know what you mean
[20:39] <shj> edbian : not!
[20:39] <shj> edbian : :)
[20:39] <acicula> justine777w: id try that then and/or move on to 11.04
[20:39] <alex--> can't you get it out of lm-sensors ?
[20:39] <wh1zz0> ikonia: I inserted another CD into the drive and it works
[20:39] <ikonia> wh1zz0: when ?
[20:39] <daniel_> hello i was wondering if anyone has hp mini 210 because im about to install ubuntu onto it and was wondering what issues i might run into and wondering if its worth it cause windows 7 is going slow
[20:39] <wh1zz0> Today
[20:39] <boywonder> wh1zz0,that to me also sounds like drive but you could try booting from the bios?
[20:39] <edbian> shj: Remove all packages with nouveau in the name.  Tell me what they all are please
[20:39] <TrD> bonsoir tout le monde
[20:39] <xibalba> ikonia , next thoughts?
[20:40] <Night-hacks> is there any Whist Card Game for Ubuntu ?
[20:40] <boywonder> can anyone help with my problem>
[20:40] <boywonder> ?
[20:40] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok - so you've proved the media is good, you've proved the drive is good, that must mean your bios is not configured correctly
[20:40] <ikonia> xibalba: just thinking
[20:40] <wh1zz0> Bios? I'm not trying to format the whole PC.. Just trying to create a win xp Virtual Box
[20:40] <xibalba> ikonia , sure thing
[20:40] <acicula> daniel_: the odds of finding soemone with the exact same hw as you arent good, but my guess is it'll work
[20:40] <zack> where am i supposed to install programs i download online?
[20:40] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ahhh, you're trying to boot a virtual box, not your machine
[20:40] <RobinJ> my screen froze for a whiel this time, anyone thinks he can help me if he takes a look at the dmesg?
[20:40] <shj> edbian : only : libdrm-nouveau1a
[20:40] <gnoke> hi folks
[20:40] <RobinJ> may be the same cause as the crash
[20:40] <edbian> shj: purge it
[20:40] <acicula> boywonder: best to ask/describe the problem you are having
[20:40] <wh1zz0> ikonia:  Yes, exacty
[20:40] <mang0> Night all!
[20:40] <gholen> Hello.. I've got a very strange problem with just about every client I could have for Messnger. I cannot connct at all. I've tried changing my pass. Updating my info and so on. NOTHING. PLEASE help.
[20:40] <gnoke> i got an error when i try to install openoffice
[20:41] <daniel_> acicula, well yesterday i put ubuntu on my dell mini and asked the same question and i got 3 responses so was just wondering
[20:41] <gnoke> is there someone that can help me?
[20:41] <ikonia> wh1zz0: you've probably not mapped your physical CD drive to the virtual CD drive of the guest machine
[20:41] <ikonia> xibalba: this one is a bit interesting.......
[20:41] <edbian> shj: and sudo modprobe -r nouveau
[20:41] <xibalba> ikonia , good i'm glad it's not newbish :)
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: there is no standard way to install programs in linux
[20:41] <RobinJ> dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650223/
[20:41] <wh1zz0> ikonia: Please how can I achieve this?
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: generally you install them from the software center
[20:41] <ikonia> wh1zz0: the topic in #vbox points you at the documentation
[20:41] <xibalba> ikonia , i was at the data center for 8 hours pounding my head on the rack with this
[20:41] <ikonia> xibalba: you're using the same modes, so if one pair works, the second should
[20:41] <tensorpudding> zack: the problem is packaging
[20:41] <wh1zz0> Okie let me have a look, thanks.
[20:42] <boywonder> acicula, i already did, im trying to add space to a partition with which the sa
[20:42] <xibalba> ikonia , i heard somethign about a bonding limit and you may have to tune the kernel or some option somewhere
[20:42] <ikonia> xibalba: ok, this is a poor suggestions, but it's all I've got
[20:42] <shj> ednbian : it says : could not apply changes fix broken packages first!
[20:42] <zack> tensorpudding: for example, im installing http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/xppaut_latest.tar.gz
[20:42] <xibalba> someone had mentioned it in this chan before but i couldn't find any documentation on this
[20:42] <zack> tensorpudding: where do I need to extract the files to, which directory?
[20:42] <gnoke> when i try to install the package "openoffice.org3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9556_all.deb" for openoffice, i got the following error: dpkg: regarding openoffice.org3.2-debian-menus_3.2-9472_all.deb containing openoffice.org-debian-menus: openoffice.org-common conflicts with openoffice.org-debian-menus openoffice.org-debian-menus (version 3.2-9472) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing openoffice.org3.2-debian-menus_3.2-9472_all.deb (--ins
[20:42] <boywonder> acicula, i already did, im trying to add space to a partition with which the space comes from unformated space if you like?
[20:42] <tensorpudding> zack: it's almost certainly source code that needs to be compiled
[20:42] <ikonia> xibalba: when you "bond" an instance of the kernel module is loaded for bonding, I'm wondering if you have a problem in that something is stopping a second instance of the module for being loaded
[20:43] <zack> tensorpudding: how would i do that then? .. ive ran this same program on windows before
[20:43] <ikonia> xibalba: I'm trying to work out what would possibly cause this
[20:43] <tensorpudding> zack: you'll have to unpack the archive, and read the instructions
[20:43] <acicula> gnoke: you cant mix debian repositories with ubuntu repositories, it breaks the package manager and your system
[20:43] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.  I cannot get it back down to 1600x900 so that I can have the entire screen.  Any assistan
[20:43] <xibalba> ikonia , in my /etc/modprobe.d/bonding.conf i have 2 entries for obnding as specific in the ubunutu doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding , i have one for bond0 and one for bond1
[20:43] <xibalba> ikonia , thats man much appreciated
[20:43] <ikonia> xibalba: so you have an alias bond1 in your bonding.conf
[20:43] <zack> tensorpudding: the website says "you could compile it yourself, but, instead, you can get the latest binary and copy xppaut to /usr/local/bin "
[20:44] <xibalba> ikonia , correct
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: compiling software is a big issue, there is no magic solution that works for everything
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: well, is that what you downloaded?
[20:44] <ikonia> xibalba: that's what should load the module
[20:44] <gholen> I give up. If I cant connect to my class, I might as well do my work in XP or seven instead.
[20:44] <zack> tensorpudding: yeah im just curious which directory im supposed to extract to
[20:44] <edbian> shj: Why didn't you tell me you had broken packages?
[20:44] <edbian> shj sudo apt-get install -f
[20:44] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm going to message a buddy of mine that manages ubuntu boxes too
[20:44] <tensorpudding> zack: extract it to your desktop or wherever, and copy the binary to /usr/local/bin
[20:44] <xibalba> luckily i have IPMI on this thing
[20:44] <gnoke> acicula: so, what i have to do?
[20:45] <acicula> gholen: dont be discouraged, if noone anserwed your question it may simply be because noone has a solution
[20:45] <ikonia> xibalba: can we do a test
[20:45] <shj> edbian : i did't know that i just installed ubuntu hours ago!!!
[20:45] <zack> tensorpudding: which file is the 'binary' .. theres lots of files.
[20:45] <xibalba> ikonia , i'm all ears
[20:45] <gnoke> i have downloaded that package from the openoffice site
[20:45] <acicula> gholen: try rephrasing the problem you are experiencing and/or be more specific
[20:45] <edbian> shj: apt-get should have been saying there were.  It's ok
[20:45] <ikonia> xibalba: I'm working from memory so you may have to check some of my options out
[20:45] <tensorpudding> zack: presumably it's executable, and named xppaut
[20:45] <boywonder> what software do i use to sort out my partitions?
[20:45] <gnoke> that says to download .deb package if u have ubuntu
[20:45] <acicula> gnoke: try using the ubuntu software package manager instead of downloading deb files
[20:45] <LWade> Any idea how to correct my issue?
[20:45] <tensorpudding> zack: in nautilus, it will be shown with a characteristic icon, with gears on it
[20:46] <ikonia> xibalba: can you do an "sudo ifconfig bond1 192.168.140.140 up"
[20:46] <acicula> gnoke: also if you installed ubuntu desktop then openoffice should already be installed
[20:46] <ikonia> xibalba: it should complain, what does it complain about
[20:46] <tensorpudding> zack: a purple diamond with gears in it
[20:46] <xibalba> ikonia , standby
[20:46] <zack> tensorpudding: im not sure what nautilus is.
[20:46] <winux> how do i see whether a particular process is running?
[20:46] <gnoke> acicula: i can't find openoffice packages in the ubuntu package manager
[20:46] <tensorpudding> zack: sorry
[20:46] <gnoke> i have ubuntu 11
[20:46] <tensorpudding> it's the file manager
[20:46] <th0r> gnoke: I think it has been replaced by libreoffice
[20:47] <gholen> acicula: Well. I cannot, under any circumstances connect with MSN Live, from Pidgon (first try, also first program that wouldt work) ams, empahy, Emesene. or just about anything. I have do do all my instant messgeing from the horribale ebuddy network.
[20:47] <tensorpudding> it's the equivalent of explorer in windows or finder in osx, if you want to think of it like that
[20:47] <acicula> gnoke i think its renamed/replaced with libreoffice
[20:47] <xibalba> ikonia , for this i will need to link you to screen shot
[20:47] <xibalba> unfortuantely i cannot highlight text in IPMI
[20:47] <ikonia> xibalba: just summerise
[20:47] <gnoke> ok, so it's only openoffice renamed?
[20:47] <ikonia> xibalba: don't need exact message, just give me an overview
[20:47] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.  I cannot get it back down to 1600x900 so that I can have the entire screen.  Any assistan
[20:47] <boywonder> fgs,somthing so pitiful..and no help !!
[20:48] <edbian> shj: ?
[20:48] <ikonia> boywonder: complaing doesn't help, just wait
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: did you ask a question
[20:48] <acicula> gnoke: i think its a fork, a variation of openoffice
[20:48] <ikonia> boywonder: or pay for a support agreement from canonical.com
[20:48] <gnoke> acicula: ok, thanks
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: oh,
[20:48] <xibalba> ikonia , ok summary is it loads CAP_SYS_MODULE, which is saying its deprecated, and wants to use CAP_NET_ADMIN instead, then goes on to say no such device. In case you want a screenshot , it's here http://sandbox.vincomm.net/~reza/bond1%20error.jpg
[20:48] <tensorpudding> about partitions
[20:48] <froq> how many in here use Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:48] <ikonia> xibalba: so no such device, rats
[20:48] <ikonia> froq: why ?
[20:48] <tensorpudding> boywonder: all sorts of disk partitioning can be done using GNOME Parted
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: search for it in the software center
[20:49] <froq> ikonia, b/c I am considering upgrading to it and want to know how many use it at the moment?  I am currently using 10.10
[20:49] <boywonder> search for what
[20:49] <boywonder> ?
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gnome partition editor
[20:49] <shj> edbian : i went to synaptic and  looked nouveau .... there are too many packages will be affected!
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: or gparted, as it is often called
[20:49] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get install -f   first to fix your broken packages
[20:49] <tensorpudding> boywonder: then search for it in applications
[20:49] <acicula> gholen: are you sure its not a network problem? afaik msn works fine under pidgin or empathy. do you get any errors when you try to connect?
[20:50] <ikonia> froq: it's the current stable version, the number of people using it should have no relevance to your upgrade
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: what is it you want to do with your partitions
[20:50] <ikonia> xibalba: that is very frustrating
[20:50] <boywonder> tensorpudding,  i cant get gparted to do what i want do i have to boot from it?
[20:50] <froq> ikonia, okay.
[20:50] <Z00la> Hi all, in practice, is there any difference between dual-booting Windows&Ubuntu and using a virtual windows emmulator of some kind?
[20:50] <xibalba> ikonia , you're telling me. i'm unfamiliar with this error message.
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: what is it you want to do
[20:50] <Z00la> I mean in terms of being able to use softwares.
[20:50] <tensorpudding> boywonder: you can't edit a partition which is in use
[20:51] <boywonder> tensorpudding, i have some deleted space i want to reclaim onto my ubutu partition
[20:51] <acicula> froq: this is not a polling station
[20:51] <s3r3n1t7> Z00la, an emulator cannot run graphical programs with the same speed as an installed OS, but it's sometimes faster to use.
[20:51] <shj> edbian : i did ! ..... i get : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) :(
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: the error message isn't a problem, I just don't see why it would give it when bond0 is fine
[20:51] <xibalba> ikonia , was the screenshot helpful
[20:51] <gholen> acicula: Nope, just "connection timed out". Tested it with standalone 3g, wireless, and wire. 3 diffrent networks as wireless and wired
[20:51] <acicula> Z00la: virtualized you do not get gpu acceleration
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: a solution would be to use the ubuntu cd you used to install from
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: not massivly as you gave me good information
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: it has gparted on it
[20:51] <edbian> shj: close synaptic and run the command agian.  You can only have 1 package manager running at once
[20:51] <ikonia> xibalba: can we do another test ?
[20:51] <tensorpudding> boywonder: you can boot from the ubuntu cd into a  "live" environment
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , are you going to be around for a while ?
[20:52] <shj> debian : ok! :) silly!
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , i have to go into a meeting! Argh!!!
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: don't think I'm going anywhere
[20:52] <froq> acicula, I realize that since there is no election, how can it be a polling station?
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: ping me when you come back, lets see if we can fix this
[20:52] <boywonder> tensorpudding, but will gparted definatly move it
[20:52] <xibalba> ikonia , thanks man. I will gladly ship you a case of beer for this
[20:52] <ikonia> xibalba: happy to help
[20:52] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gparted can resize partitions, yeah
[20:52] <acicula> gholen:  can you connect when you reboot to windows?
[20:53] <gholen> acicula: Yep.
[20:53] <dell> When i install a program where are it's source code saved?
[20:53] <ikonia> dell: it's sourcecode isn't
[20:53] <boywonder> tensorpudding, thanks for helping, i think i might have a bootable gparted but if it dont work??
[20:53] <joki> How can i use my rams to help the performances of my system?
[20:53] <ikonia> dell: it's binary you download
[20:53] <acicula> dell its not, you can get the source code by typing apt-get source <package>
[20:53] <ikonia> joki: the linux kernel will manage your ram to give you the best performance
[20:53] <shj> debian : i get the same message .... fix broken packages first!
[20:53] <dell> ohh
[20:53] <gholen> In fact, as it seems,I can connect, but I have problems logging in, it takes a while with pidgin, but trillian, msn and so on WORKS.
[20:53] <tensorpudding> boywonder: gparted should be able to do anything which you need to do
[20:54] <LWade> Hello, I'm having an issue with ubuntu on a vbox, I have installed guest additions and for a period of time the monitor recognized the proper resolution 1600x900, and then it reverted down to 800x600 and wouldn t change.  After multiple reinstalls of guest additions it will give me 1600x1200 which is too large for my screen and everything is cut off.  I cannot get it back down to 1600x900 so that I can have the entire screen.  Any assistan
[20:54] <LWade> no rush anyone just a reminder :P
[20:54] <acicula> gholen: so it works but it just takes some time to login?
[20:54] <joki> ikonia: right now is only using 11% of it. Can't i do anything to use more of it, and make it efficient ?
[20:54] <Jordan_U> acicula: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[20:54] <ikonia> joki: why do you think it's only using %11 ?
[20:55] <LWade> oh hell may not need it now
[20:55] <LWade> i just messed it u
[20:55] <LWade> p
[20:55] <gholen> acicula: ONLY with pidgin, not trillian in windows, MSN LIVE does what its told to, quite fast even
[20:55] <edbian> shj: You're butchering my name and I'm missing things you're saying :P
[20:55] <acicula> Jordan_U: no i dont
[20:55] <edbian> shj: close synaptic.  run sudo apt-get -f install
[20:55] <boywonder> tensorpudding, thank you
[20:55] <shj> debian : i did that!
[20:55] <joki> Ikonia: because that's what conky, and system monitor is telling me,
[20:56] <acicula> gholen: well no surprise there, its their own closed protocol, does pidgin under ubuntu work, if slow at logging in?
[20:56] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | acicula
[20:56] <edbian> shj: My name is not debian
[20:56] <LWade> well to hell with it im just going to reinstall it :P
[20:56] <ikonia> joki: that means it only needs %11 as "active" at thie moment, you'll find more will be use for things such as disk cache, and when it needs it will swap it to active
[20:56] <acicula> Jordan_U: i think you have me confused with someone else
[20:56] <Z00la> s3r3n1t7 , acicula Thanks.
[20:56] <shj> edbian : :) sorry
[20:56] <Jordan_U> acicula: Indeed, sorry.
[20:56] <gholen> acicula: Nope, nither does empahy, amsn, emesene or something else.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> blackhawk: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[20:57] <joki> ikonia: so' in another words i can't use any ram space to make my experience smoother?
[20:57] <edbian> shj: sudo apt-get -f install
[20:57] <edbian> shj: What is it saying?
[20:57] <ikonia> joki: is your machine behaving slow ?
[20:57] <shj> edbian : i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650232/
[20:58] <acicula> gholen: well empathy or pidgin support msn fine, got any other customizations done on your ubuntu like firewall settings etc?
[20:58] <gholen> acicula: None what so ever.
[20:59] <gholen> acicula: vanilla install so to speak
[20:59] <edbian> If the package: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is uninstalled why is nouveau still being used?
[20:59] <lsv> how can I check if Ubuntu recognize my wireless card?
[20:59] <joki> ikonia: a bit slow, yes.
[20:59] <ikonia> joki: how much ram do you have ?
[20:59] <edbian> shj: I'm asking the channel for help.  Open synaptic and remove all the nouveau packages again.
[20:59] <designbybeck> i did a top command... saw that skype is peggin' out one of my CPUs... I tried to do a kill but it will not kill
[20:59] <acicula> gholen: then idk what else to try, double check your login credentials and let it try to connect for awhile?
[20:59] <designbybeck> any ideas how to kill it
[20:59] <ikonia> designbybeck: it maybe zombied, a reboot will clear it
[20:59] <shj> edbian : it refuses .... it says fix broken packages first!
[21:00] <edbian> designbybeck: kill -9
[21:00] <designbybeck> Ah... thanks ikonia, I was hoping to not hae to reboot right now
[21:00] <edbian> shj: what?
[21:00] <designbybeck> i tried that in top edbian
[21:00] <gholen> acicula: Done that. Nothing helps. Thats why I'm asking here :)
[21:00] <designbybeck> with the process id
[21:00] <edbian> shj: This is very strange.  apt-get -f says there are no broken packages. nouveau cannot be removed
[21:00] <edbian> I have no idea what is happening
[21:00] <edbian> designbybeck: then restart
[21:00] <shj> edbian : strange !!! but that's what synaptic says!
[21:00] <edbian> shj: Yeah.  I don't know.  I am confused
[21:00] <shj> debian : i'll try again!
[21:01] <edbian> shj: my name is not Debian
[21:01] <joki> ikonia: about 8gb ddr2 on a laptop
[21:01] <ikonia> joki: ok - so is it visually slow, or slow at doing things
[21:01] <edbian> Why would synaptic say there are broken packages when apt-get says there are not?
[21:01] <shj> edbian : sorry
[21:02] <edbian> shj: it's fine
[21:02] <joki> ikonia: visually
[21:02] <ikonia> joki: so the most realistic option is your video card and xorgs compatability
[21:02] <ikonia> joki: what video card do you have ?
[21:03] <joki> ikonia: psh, is garbage some intel integrated....
[21:03] <ikonia> joki: ok, the most obvious thing to me is that it's not configured to use it properly, or the card is not powered enough
[21:03] <ikonia> joki: your issue is not ram related
[21:03] <shj> edbian : the only package that have nouveau on it is : libdrm-nouveau1a >>>> and i get that broken package message when  i try to remove it
[21:03] <joki> ikonia: ik is most likely that, but i was asking if there was any way of putting my ram to use. It's always 10-20
[21:04] <edbian> shj: I know.  I do not know how to fix it.
[21:04] <ikonia> joki: it's already in use, you'll find that ram that's not "needed" is used as disk cache and other things,
[21:04] <ikonia> joki: then when it's needed it's returned to the active pool
[21:04] <glebihan> shj, what does it say it you run "sudo apt-get remove libdrm-nouveau1a"
[21:04] <shj> edbian : anyway! thank you very much for your effort! .... appreciated!
[21:05] <ikonia> joki: think of it as having 10 legs to pedal a bike with 2 pedals, you can only use 2 legs, no matter how many you've got
[21:05] <edbian> shj: sure, good luck!
[21:06] <shj> glebihan : broken packages
[21:06] <glebihan> shj, what is the exact message ?
[21:06] <alex--> How to 'ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm' but do this only for the tar.gz file?
[21:06] <alex--> not for the folder?
[21:06] <Eighteens> if i play a music cd, my sound card plays the first song ok, "most of the time
[21:06] <joki> ikonia: lol, you're right.. I just seen it somewhere
[21:07] <ikonia> joki: I know where you are going, but trust me, the linux kernel knows how to deal with it's memory best
[21:07] <alex--> How to 'ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm' but do this only for the tar.gz file? not for the folder?
[21:07] <ikonia> alex--: you need to untar it
[21:07] <alex--> yes
[21:07] <alex--> but then i have 1 folder with multitheft
[21:07] <shj> glebihan : here is the message : http://paste.ubuntu.com/650237/
[21:07] <ikonia> alex--: correct
[21:07] <alex--> and 1 .tar.gz file with multithefta
[21:07] <alex--> how to remove the .tar.gz?
[21:07] <Eighteens> i have ubuntu 10.04.2 lucid on this machine, been trying for months to get perfect sound, nothing seems to work, except live cd, then sound always sounds good and crisp
[21:07] <Jordan_U> blackhawk: Do you see an "out of disk" error?
[21:08] <alex--> if i do ls multitheftauto_linux* | xargs rm it will remove the folder
[21:08] <alex--> i want it to remove the file
[21:08] <boywonder> tensorpudding, i just thought of somthing, i have this machine dual booted with xp, can i just delete the xp partition or will that cause problems?
[21:08] <ikonia> alex--: rm $filename.tar
[21:08] <alex--> no ls?
[21:08] <zack> im getting 'fatal error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory' after typing 'make' .. any idea how to fix this?
[21:08] <tensorpudding> boywonder: yes, you can delete it
[21:08] <edbian> shj: update the system first.  sudo apt-get update   and sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[21:08] <ikonia> alex--: you do know multitheftauto is not going to work on your system don't you ?
[21:08] <alex--> it's almost working
[21:08] <alex--> thanks to aetas
[21:08] <acicula> Zack you need to install the compiletime dependencies
[21:08] <shj> edbian : ok!
[21:08] <alex--> but now about this
[21:09] <edbian> shj: That will probably help.  It's not saying there are broken packages.  It's saying that what you requested will create broken packages.  I was confused about this before.
[21:09] <boywonder> tens and the boot list ting will just drop it? thanks in advance
[21:09] <acicula> so not just the library but also the -dev version of the library
[21:09] <alex--> rm $filename.tar
[21:09] <ikonia> I don't think it will work properly though when I worked through the dependencies earlier
[21:09] <philipballew> whats lvm mean when i am selecting where to install and do i want it
[21:09] <alex--> rm: cannot remove `.tar': No such file or directory
[21:09] <zack> acicula where do I get that?
[21:09] <ikonia> alex--: what is the name of the tar file
[21:09] <alex--> i dont know
[21:09] <Eighteens> if i killall pulseaudio, it will restart, then i can play music, or watch movies, but if i try to watch any other movie, or listen to any other music after the initial reboot, i get train wreck, or garbled sound
[21:09] <alex--> the script should get it with ls multitheft*
[21:09] <boywonder> tensorpudding,  and the boot list thing will just drop it? thanks in advance excuse typo?
[21:09] <ikonia> alex--: oh come on, yes you do, what is the name of the tar file that you downloaded that contains mta
[21:09] <alex--> no
[21:09] <alex--> i'm creating a script
[21:09] <alex--> to do this automaticly
[21:09] <alex--> name changes every time
[21:10] <tensorpudding> boywonder: i think so
[21:10] <FloodBot1> alex--: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: no - you're not
[21:10] <tensorpudding> boywonder: it won't interfere with booting other operating systems
[21:10] <alex--> will this work?        ls multitheftauto_linux*.tar.gz | xargs rm
[21:10] <boywonder> tensorpudding, cool stuff
[21:10] <Eighteens> i've searched forums, and tried many suggestions, should i just get a better sound card than the integrated intel-hda that it came with
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: the file name does not change
[21:10] <alex--> it does
[21:10] <alex--> mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r734.zip
[21:10] <ikonia> alex--: no, it doesn't I've read the revision history
[21:10] <acicula> zack read the INSTALL file or google for the package that header file belongs to and install the development version via the software center or apt-get. the convention is that libabc has a development package called libabc-dev
[21:10] <alex--> will change in mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r735.zip or mtasa-1.0.x-resources-r736.zip
[21:11] <ikonia> alex--: don't script compiling something,
[21:11] <Jordan_U> alex--: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#for_i_in_.24.28ls_.2A.mp3.29
[21:11] <alex--> i'm not scripting to compile
[21:12] <alex--> just to download the files
[21:12] <alex--> and put it in the right folder
[21:12] <shj> edbain : another error message :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/650239/
[21:12] <ikonia> alex--: finish working it through with aetas this isn't an ubuntu issue and we are getting to the point of spoon feeding you
[21:13] <alex--> i'm stuck at read now
[21:13] <alex--> i used read VARNAME
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: work it through with aetas he was helping you earlier
[21:13] <Jordan_U> alex--: Do you plan on distributing this script ?
[21:13] <alex--> he's gone
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: this isn't an ubuntu issue, so it's offtopic for this channel
[21:13] <alex--> Jordan_U: no
[21:13] <alex--> maybe
[21:13] <alex--> actually
[21:13] <alex--> why?
[21:13] <ikonia> alex--: we cut you a lot of slack earlier, but this is now getting to the point where we are having to spoon feed you, so I suggest you take it to a channel such as #bash for scripting
[21:14] <alex--> ok
[21:14] <ikonia> alex--: be aware though, #bash are quite tought on you doing your own research
[21:14] <alex--> sorry for disturbing you
[21:14] <ikonia> not a problem
[21:15] <Jordan_U> alex--: Because to be perfectly blunt, I don't think you're ready to be writing scripts that might break people's systems if things go wrong. What you are trying to do with rm is very prone to error and you might accidentily delete much more than you expected to.
[21:15] <alex--> maybe :P
[21:17] <john_rambo> just installed natty.   Getting a black screen with  a cross mouse pointer
[21:18] <gabdantas> good evening!
[21:20] <Jef91> Is there a desktop neutral tool that allows the configuration of synaptics touch pads?
[21:20] <ciss> how do i debug a boot freeze in the /sbin/init phase?
[21:21] <john_rambo> just installed natty.   Getting a black screen with  a cross mouse pointer
[21:21] <ThinkT510> !upstart | ciss
[21:21] <th0r> Jef91: synclient?
[21:23] <Jef91> what package name is that th0r?
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !find synclient | Jef91
[21:24] <Infernet> hey all
[21:25] <Jef91> ThinkT510 that is the drivers - not a desktop neutral GUI to configure them
[21:27] <townes> could someone recommend some simple/intuitive software for creating posters and things of that nature...not something bloated and ram hogging and 10,000 features...just something that does what it does
[21:27] <ThinkT510> Jef91: you first said desktop neutral tool, which is why th0r pointed to synclient that is part of the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package
[21:28] <townes> I know that's a bit of a loaded question
[21:28] <Jef91> ahh
[21:28] <townes> but maybe someone has a few ideas
[21:28] <ciss> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:28] <ThinkT510> ciss: no worries :)
[21:29] <werever> hi guys
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> townes, Inkscape, GIMP => have you actually researched this yet?
[21:29] <ThinkT510> townes: you could try libreoffice draw
[21:30] <werever> anybody can help me? I am on a live cd and need to acces to my user folder data on the hard disk, only need copy some files until I fix some GUI problems
[21:31] <ciss> ok, i added --verbose and can see now that the system hangs at: "init: plymouth post-start process (222)". any advice?
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> ThinkT510, When you're doing large format graphics, you have to have extremely high DPI, mate..."Draw" does not fit that bill. I have to put out posters (well, graphics for banners and rollups and such) and that just don't work. However Inkscape and GIMP do the trick extremely well - especially in comparison to MS based crap graphics programs.
[21:32] <ciss> weird - why is plymouth active on a server install?
[21:32] <townes> YankDownUnder, a little bit, I was just curious if people had other suggestions
[21:32] <shj> hi guys! .... how can i force nvida's card driver to work!!! ... it says in (additional dirvers) "this driver is activated but not currently in use"
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> ciss, Remove the plymouth packages on the server.
[21:32] <townes> YankDownUnder, havent looked at inkscape... scribus looked pretty complicated to me
[21:32] <townes> inkscape similiar?
[21:33] <ThinkT510> YankDownUnder: you can tell i don't have much experience in that area so i said the first thing that came to mind, your suggestions are much better though
[21:33] <townes> ThinkT510, that sounds like it might be a good way to go, office stuff is usually straight forwardf
[21:33] <werever> any body available_
[21:33] <werever> ?
[21:33] <YankDownUnder> townes, If you're wanting "so simple that it does it itself", well, you have to remember that regardless the situation, there IS a learning curve. If you're not willing the learn, the curve is quite steep.
[21:34] <townes> YankDownUnder, oh yeah absolutely, I just..... scribus is beyond me
[21:34] <townes> gimp works, I just wanted other ideas
[21:34] <blade> werever,  if you need help with something ask
[21:34] <YankDownUnder> townes, Scribus IS a bit complex, however, if you have an objective, don't let "a new tool" that is different in dialogues - throw you for a loop.
[21:34] <Jef91> darn net drops
[21:35] <Jef91> synclient is saying that it doesn't appear the synaptics driver is loaded
[21:35] <faLUCE>  hi, is there a simple calendar gui for linux that prints on the console the date when it's picked?
[21:35] <Jef91> and I don't see it in lsmod - is there somewhere else it would be?
[21:35] <townes> YankDownUnder, thanks, I really needed that encouragement... sometimes this stuff is so intimidating
[21:35] <werever> thanks blade, only need some help to remember how to login into my hard disk ubuntu files until I am in a live cd
[21:35] <YankDownUnder> townes, For that matter, anyone that doesn't know how to use Photoshop would think it's an alien - and find it hard to use. However, that being said, if you understand the objective and the tools necessary, dialogues really don't matter.
[21:35] <townes> you're right
[21:35] <blade> werever, from what os
[21:36] <YankDownUnder> townes, Cheers
[21:36] <townes> cheers mate
[21:36] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, hi im back, im booted into persistant ubuntu but its not letting me move the partition?
[21:36] <werever> I am sure there is some help in ubuntu forums or google, but I am not lucky today searching, and I have a not enought time toresearch
[21:36] <werever> I am using ubuntu 11.04 in my hard disk, wich is broken, now I am in a live cd ubuntu 11.04, and I need to login and copy some files
[21:36] <ciss> YankDownUnder: not an option. there's a whole forest of dependencies
[21:37] <zack> why can i not copy stuff to usr/bin, i get permission denied?
[21:37] <blade> werever, what os are you using
[21:37] <werever> 11.04
[21:37] <ciss> looks like plymouth is tightly integrated
[21:37] <blade> werever, you should be able to mount the drive they are on and see them
[21:37] <werever> yep
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> ciss, So the server doesn't get past that - ergo, it ain't booting into the system...ya?
[21:37] <werever> I mounted
[21:38] <werever> bur files are under my user folder, and there are private
[21:38] <werever> any ideas? )P
[21:38] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: you said resize before, not move
[21:38] <blade> werever,  they are encrypted then right
[21:38] <werever> yes
[21:38] <blade> that sounds like it's going to be a bit over my head then sorry
[21:38] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: if you want you can expand partitions, and contract them, but you can't pick them up and move them to a different part of the disk
[21:39] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  my original post said move, do i have a problem?
[21:39] <blade> werever,  i would think you would have to open the folder with terminal but i'm not sure
[21:39] <werever> blade, yes, data is encripted, file explorer say , I have no permission
[21:39] <kids> hello, can anyone assist in installing flash for firefox in edubuntu
[21:39] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, seems that it will only let me move right to left?
[21:40] <babble> hey everyone: does anybody know if there's an ubuntu build of GADMIN-HTTPD that works in natty?
[21:40] <acicula> zack: you can only write in your home directory and the /tmp directory as a normal user
[21:40] <kids> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:40] <kids> is the website I am on but do not know which version to choose
[21:40] <blade> werever, with terminal you should be able to open them but i am unsure how you would do it
[21:40] <YankDownUnder> kids, In the package manager, you can search for flash and install flash-player for Firefox.
[21:41] <TrentH> msg NickServ identify xbox360
[21:41] <ciss> YankDownUnder: we had a blackout, since then the server (10.04, virtualbox guest) doesn't boot up anymore. it idles at the named line without throwing any errors. keyboard input gets displayed, but that's about all
[21:41] <zack> "you could compile it yourself, but, instead, you can get the latest binary and copy xppaut to /usr/local/bin " .. why would it say to just copy to usr/local/bin if i cant do that
[21:41] <TrentH> Hello, everyone!
[21:41] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: if you have something like
[21:41] <acicula> TrentH: best change your password now
[21:41] <rww> !identify | TrentH
[21:41] <TrentH> heheheheheh
[21:41] <werever> blade,  what do you think is faster? fix my ubuntu boot problem or acces to my private folder? , my problem is ubuntu 11.04 says #mountall: disconnected plymouth
[21:41] <TrentH> It's alright acid
[21:41] <ThinkT510> !find gadmin | babble
[21:41] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2:  a partition A, then empty space, then partition B, then more space
[21:42] <acicula> zack: you can copy as root
[21:42] <TrentH> I'm having an issue manually installing the ATI drivers, It error's out on me when it shows the hardware I have.
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: you can expand A to the right or B to left
[21:42] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  thats what i have?
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: but you can't swamp A and B's places
[21:42] <acicula> or with root privelidges rather, but you can execute it just fine in your home directory
[21:42] <babble> ThinkT510, yeah, I saw the rest of the Gadmin packages in the repo, but I can't find one for GADMIN-HTTPD
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: this is entirely a contrived example
[21:42] <zack> acicula: how do i do that then
[21:42] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: how do i know what your partition layout looks like?
[21:42] <blade> werever, i am unsure that would be a bit over my head, again i would think you could open the folder using terminal
[21:42] <YankDownUnder> ciss, You should be able to "attach" a 10.04 server CD to that VM, boot to the CD, and attempt to repair the build - it would appear (from what I've seen in the past in my clients situations) that the VM is corrupted - so start from the base filesystems on the VM and then work your way out from there...make sense?
[21:43] <roasted> hi
[21:43] <babble> and the sources posted at http://gadmintools.flippedweb.com/ are for i386
[21:43] <roasted> @ mcdonalds
[21:43] <roasted> woops
[21:43] <roasted> wrong channel
[21:43] <acicula> zack: make sure the file is executable and then in the same directory type ./ and then the filename of your program
[21:43] <Hyperling> I have a few folders that were accidentally created as root, and they contain files, which I need to delete. What's the simplest/fastest way?
[21:43] <TrentH> acicula, can you help me install 11.6 ATI driver?
[21:43] <babble> (I'm running AMD64)
[21:43] <ThinkT510> babble: doesn't seem to exist
[21:43] <Hyperling> I need to delete the actual folders too, not only the files
[21:43] <werever> blade, thats I am trying, but Its taking more time than I expected
[21:43] <acicula> TrentH: you can install ati drivers via the additional drivers tool
[21:43] <zack> acicula: its just a folder that im trying to copy over that has a bunch of files
[21:44] <YankDownUnder> Hyperling, Have you thought of using "sudo"?
[21:44] <babble> ThinkT510, there's an x86 source package for GADMIN-HTTPD here: http://gadmintools.flippedweb.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=36
[21:44] <babble> ThinkT510, but the posted tarball is for 32bit/i386
[21:44] <blade> werever, i do not know enough about terminal to know the command to open it but i am sure it would be a sudo command
[21:44] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: When I use the sudo folder remove command it tells me I can't while there are files inside
[21:44] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, my partition layout is as, devsda1,devsda3,devsda5(files system),devsda6swap : i want to move devsda3 to devsda5?
[21:44] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: Is there a command to delete folders AND files?
[21:44] <acicula> zack: i understand, but you can just execute the files with the directory in your home directory as well
[21:45] <ciss> YankDownUnder: absolutely. i'll give it a try, thanks
[21:45] <YankDownUnder> Hyperling, "sudo rm -rf foldername"
[21:45] <AlexDevilLX> ubuntu different wallpapers on workspaces metacity
[21:45] <blade> werever, from the sounds of it YankDownUnder know a bit about terminal
[21:45] <TrentH> acicula, but I don't want to use FGLRX. It laggs the special things
[21:45] <kids> @yank, sorry but where do I find the package manager?
[21:45] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: I'll try it, thank you
[21:45] <acicula> TrentH: then you dont need to do anything, ubuntu should load the opensource ati drivers for you
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, the special things I mean the special effects for the graphics they lagg
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, but the newest ati drivers fixed the issue with it lagging on special effects
[21:46] <babble> ThinkT510, but thank you very much for looking for me ;)
[21:46] <Hyperling> YankDownUnder: Thanks, it worked :D
[21:46] <TrentH> acicula, can you tell me how to keep the installer from closing whenever it errors? Or tell me how to find out why it error'd?
[21:46] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, is there noway i can do this?
[21:46] <werever> blade, YankDownUnder, with this command am I able to open my private user folder from live cd?
[21:46] <ThinkT510> babble: sorry i couldn't help more
[21:47] <acicula> TrentH: how do you know the newer drivers will fix your graphics issue?
[21:47] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: there are ways, possibly, but they're all complex and involve backing up your files elsewhere, deleting partitions and recreating them, and moving files back onto them
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> werever, Eh? If the "private user folder" is encrypted?
[21:47] <TrentH> acicula, alot of people said online that the "newer" driver addresses the lagging issue with compizz.
[21:48] <werever> yankdownunder, yes is encrypted, I found this on google, do you think I am on the correct way?
[21:48] <werever> yankdownunder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live%20CD%20method%20of%20opening%20a%20encrypted%20home%20directory
[21:48] <acicula> TrentH: that sounds like nonsense
[21:49] <alex--> ikonia: my script is almost finished =D
[21:49] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, this sucks surely i should just be able to expand over ?
[21:49] <kids> @ Yank, found the package manager, thank you very much.
[21:49] <ikonia> alex--: I've been following you in #bash
[21:49] <zack> I'm trying to find libxfree86-devel in the synaptic package manager, any reason why its not showing up?
[21:49] <YankDownUnder> werever, Give the "short advanced way" a go - it's less, um, cluttered and more straightforwrad.
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> *forward*
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> kids, Coolbeans. Cheers
[21:50] <werever> yankdownunder, hehehe, do you know this #short advanced way#?
[21:51] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: please state exactly what you want to do
[21:51] <ThinkT510> !find xfree86 | zack
[21:51] <TrentH> acicula, can you tell me how to see the error code the installer gives me?
[21:51] <YankDownUnder> werever, Scroll down to below the initial page tag and you'll see the "advanced short way"
[21:51] <zack> i just need xlib.h :/
[21:51] <werever> yankdownunder, nice, I will try it, thanks!
[21:51] <acicula> TrentH: i dont understand
[21:52] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding,  as of the table i have 10 gigs of space(sda3)deleted formated whatever, i want to put this into sda5 and kill sda3
[21:52] <blade> with the ati restricted drivers can i use 2 video cards.. one monitor on each
[21:53] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, so that sda5 is 10 gigs bigger
[21:53] <Connelly> does anyone know how well supported ubuntu is on macbook pro?
[21:53] <acicula> !mac
[21:53] <TrentH> acicula, how do I get the terminal
[21:53] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: then resize sda3 and then sda5
[21:54] <tensorpudding> chrisyboy2: and there is an sda4 in the middle?
[21:54] <acicula> TrentH: the program is called terminal
[21:54] <chrisyboy2> tensorpudding, no sda4
[21:54] <tensorpudding> wher is the extra space?
[21:54] <tensorpudding> between 3 and 5?
[21:55] <acicula> TrentH: what kind of graphic issues have you been experiencing?
[21:55] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: ah, that is a bit tricky, one is a primary partition the other is logical, you would have to shrink the logical then the extended and then grow the primary
[21:56] <blade> how can i configure ATI CCC for 2 video cards
[21:56] <acicula> TrentH: please keep your questions to #ubuntu
[21:56] <ThinkT510> chrisyboy2: sorry wrong way round, you want the extra space going to sda5
[21:57] <TrentH> acicula, alright how do I remove fglrx? I ram ati installer through terminal...and I go to install it and it says I still have FGLRX installed?
[21:57] <TrentH> acicula, I tried apt-get purge fglrx* and it says "the following packages will be removed, FGLRX*" but everytime I redo the command it still says it's going to be removed?
[21:58] <acicula> TrentH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI , especially the bit about making a deb from the installer is relevant as it makes it easier later if you want to revert
[22:00] <blade> aciula i am unsure how/if i move forward, can i run dual video cards with the restricted drivers from ATI
[22:01] <ciss> i attempted an apt-get update inside a rescue system with my root partition mounted in /. unfortunately the status hangs at 0 %. all servers are reachable. what could cause this?
[22:01] <Darklord6229> Im am having trouble getting my wireless card to work. It is a Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 card. Any Ideas?
[22:01] <acicula> blade: yeah you can
[22:01] <blade> acicula,  2 cards both with monitors on them?
[22:02] <acicula> blade yeah, you will need to run seperate X instances on both cards though
[22:02] <chrisyboy2> thinkt510 why cant i tab your name, lets start off?
[22:02] <blade> acicula,  so it's just a matter of installing the drivers and ccc and then edit the xorg file
[22:04] <chrisyboy2> ThinkT510 ?
[22:05] <fructose_> Unity/compiz seems to have gone haywire and I cant do anything except move the mouse and ctrl.alt.fx ... Is there anything I can try to restore my session without
[22:05] <acicula> blade: you dont need to run two X instances even, you do need to edit xorg though, or use a tool that configures it for you
[22:05] <fructose_> ...losinig my session
[22:05] <acicula> !Xinerama
[22:05] <acicula> start there
[22:05] <fructose_> I had windows open I did not want to lose
[22:06] <Darklord6229> Im am having trouble getting my wireless card to work. It is a Linksys WMP54GS v1.1 card. Any Ideas?
[22:06] <blade> acicula, thank you
[22:07] <fructose_> Can anyone hear me btw, or do I need to login?
[22:07] <acicula> fructose_: we can see you
[22:07] <bbird1999> fructose_: we can hear you
[22:08] <acicula> fructose_: you can try restarting the windowmanager, in a console type export DISPLAY=:0
[22:08] <blade> !dualhead
[22:08] <TrentH> acicula, how do I remove fglrx?
[22:08] <chrisyboy2> im a patient guy but i gotta say this is a funny situation im in lol
[22:08] <acicula> TrentH: deactivate the driver via additional drivers
[22:09] <acicula> fructose_: and then try compiz --replace
[22:09] <fructose_> Acicula: will i lose the windows I had open?
[22:09] <acicula> fructose_: killing the windowmanager should not kill your session or any programs you have open
[22:09] <TrentH> The driver is not activated
[22:09] <aroman> hi, what's the Mac version about? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/alpha-2/
[22:10] <acicula> TrentH: then its not installed? tried the uninstall option of the ati driverpackage you downloaded?
[22:10] <fructose_> acicula: It tries to init, then set faults
[22:10] <acicula> fructose_: it segfaults?
[22:10] <fructose_> *seg faults
[22:10] <acicula> fructose_: euh, try metacity --replace then
[22:10] <gohdan> i was wondering if someone could assist me in resetting my keyboard layout to the some sort of default. i removed my keybindings in gconf and reset the layout via the gui tool in gnome, but bad things still happen
[22:11] <acicula> then go back, save your stuff and logout and back in
[22:11] <gohdan> the ctrl keys power down the system and the shift keys alter volume. emacs.... is unusable
[22:11] <acicula> fructose_: did that work/
[22:12] <fructose_> acicula: No seg fault, but the view is still frozen except for the mouse
[22:12] <gohdan> i never set any of these options btw. just, 'kind of happened' somewhere
[22:13] <fructose_> acicula: Was I supposed to actually kill something first?
[22:13] <acicula> fructose_: then i think you are out of luck
[22:13] <acicula> fructose_: no the --replace ensures it replaces whatever is your current window manager
[22:13] <fructose_> acicula: I had unity
[22:13] <acicula> if that does not give you control back even though it starts then i suppose its X itself causing problems
[22:14] <fructose_> *hate
[22:14] <induz> any good disk cloning program
[22:14] <acicula> fructose_: you can select classic ubuntu at the login prompt after you select your user
[22:14] <nit-wit> So any of enjoying the sudden x crashes to the login?
[22:14] <fructose_> acicula: Yeah...will have to do that
[22:15] <fructose_> acicula: Thanks for trying though
[22:16] <acicula> yw
[22:18] <fructose_> Where do I go to tell Shuttleworth that Unity is bad and he should feel bad?
[22:19] <edbian> ha
[22:19] <___Alex___> my X Windows Session is locked and the lock screen isn't coming up... how can I kill the screensaver without killing the entire X session?
[22:20] <___Alex___> unlock screen even... screensaver is showing but I can't enter in a password or anything...
[22:21] <xibalba> hey all, any ideas what would be causing this  http://sandbox.vincomm.net/~reza/bond1%20error.jpg
[22:21] <xibalba> bond0 comes up without issue, bond1 has issue
[22:21] <faLUCE> is it possible to disable for a gui program all the keys of keyboard and allow only the arrow keys?
[22:21] <fructose> ___Alex___: Are you running gnome?
[22:21] <blade> fructose, let me know when you find it i will do the same
[22:21] <xibalba> ikonia , you around?
[22:21] <___Alex___> fructose: ubuntu classic, yup
[22:22] <___Alex___> fructose: on irssi from cli via ctrl-alt-f1
[22:22] <fructose> ___Alex___: Google tells me there's a gnome-screensaver-command with an --exit option
[22:22] <___Alex___> fructose: I'd love to google but elinks / lynx is kinda crappy :)
[22:22] <fructose> ___Alex___: No worries
[22:22] <blackhawk> anyone having/heard of problems like unstable internet connection?
[22:23] <fructose> ___Alex___: Just emphasizing I don't have experience with it
[22:23] <Quantum_Ion> Do you have an Ubuntu question ?
[22:23] <Quantum_Ion> Lets stick to the topic ?
[22:23] <blackhawk> yes me
[22:23] <___Alex___> fructose: how would i set my xdisplay to my current xsession instead of my tty window?
[22:24] <blade> blackhawk, yes i have sat Internet = unstable
[22:24] <blackhawk> new to ubuntu and i'm noticing unstable internet connection
[22:24] <ikonia> xibalba: be with you shortly
[22:24] <blackhawk> so how do we fix it
[22:24] <fructose> Try export DISPLAY=:0 ?
[22:24] <blackhawk> ?
[22:25] <blackhawk> i'm new so i don't understand what is that lol
[22:25] <Quantum_Ion> unstable ?
[22:25] <blade> it has nothing to do with Linux/Unix it's your isp
[22:25] <Quantum_Ion> etf
[22:25] <blackhawk> no,this "Try export DISPLAY=:0 ?"
[22:25] <blackhawk> well i have another computer which is working fine]
[22:26] <blade> blackhawk, then you need to check  your lan driver
[22:26] <blackhawk> not quit sure but first time experiencing it so i was wondering if it's ubuntu
[22:26] <rww> blackhawk: that was fructose talking to ___Alex___, not you.
[22:26] <blackhawk> blade,how?
[22:26] <fructose> blackhawk: Was talking to ___Alex___,s orry
[22:26] <blade> blackhawk, lspci
[22:26] <blackhawk> ok rww :(
[22:26] <___Alex___> fructose: that disabled the screensaver, but my display is not updating (probably the root problem)... is there a way to force a screen redraw?
[22:26] <blade> blackhawk, in terminal
[22:27] <nit-wit> ___Alex___, ctrl-alt-f7
[22:27] <blackhawk> ok,i know the terminal lol
[22:27] <blackhawk> then
[22:27] <___Alex___> nit-wit: I know how to move from tty to X session, but that's not causing it to redraw everything... :(
[22:27] <blade> blackhawk, look for your lan card and check to see if you have drivers instaled for it
[22:28] <blackhawk> ok
[22:28] <___Alex___> all I see is a mouse cursor
[22:28] <nit-wit> ___Alex___, not sure if you didn't shutdown X sorry.
[22:28] <blade> blackhawk, only other thing i can think of is ubuntu tweak
[22:28] <___Alex___> nit-wit: yeah, I'm not tryng to shutdown X... I just want my windows to stay open but re-init the video somehow
[22:29] <blackhawk> umm how so?
[22:29] <blackhawk> i have a z68 gigabyte motherboard btw
[22:29] <fructose> ___Alex___: I've never tried it, but apparently there is a gnome-session-save
[22:30] <blade> blackhawk, i also have a gigabyte MoBo
[22:30] <fructose> ___Alex___: And then gnome-session to start it again
[22:30] <___Alex___> fructose: interesting, but I'm running a terminal window doing a couple of jobs and a virtual machine...  will those still continue to run if I restart the X session?
[22:31] <hamed> hello i want to buy this pen and i want to be sure thats will work on linux it convert my screen on my laptop to touch screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBr9kU4Knp4&feature=player_embedded
[22:32] <fructose> ___Alex___: Without experience, I can't promise anything. The manpage says it saves a snapshot of the currently running applications
[22:32] <fructose> ___Alex___: I don't know if that means it will just terminate and reopen them later or if it will try to reattach to the ones that were already open
[22:33] <blackhawk> ok,one more thing,how do you install plugins? like quakelive one?
[22:33] <blade> blackhawk,  i am unsure what you mean.... plugins for what?
[22:34] <blackhawk> for a web browser,like the quakelive game plugin
[22:34] <blade> blackhawk, what browser.... firefox?
[22:35] <blackhawk> yea,or chrome if you know that too,but mainly firefox
[22:35] <OerHeks> ___Alex___, does right-alt + printscreen + K log you out ( ugly way, i know ) wich keeps your processes running, and i hope this disable screeensaver ?
[22:35] <hamed> this is the picture of the pen i want to buy and i want it's programmes
[22:36] <blade> blackhawk, open firefox and go to the tools tab... then to addons
[22:36] <blade> blackhawk, search for your plugin or browse
[22:37] <blade> i thought i seen nitwit
[22:37] <Darklord6229> I can't access the Internet from my Linux machine. I have a Linksys wireless card. Can anybody help me?
[22:38] <edbian> Darklord6229: yep
[22:38] <edbian> Darklord6229: What chipset do you have?
[22:38] <edbian> Darklord6229: PM me maybe easier
[22:38] <blackhawk> ok this is about the installed ones,how about adding one?
[22:38] <blackhawk> i've downloaded the plugin from the site
[22:38] <blackhawk> i want to add it
[22:38] <blackhawk> "QuakeLivePlugin_433.xpi"
[22:38] <blackhawk> that is it's name
[22:38] <FloodBot1> blackhawk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <___Alex___> OerHeks: logging out usually kills all windows
[22:39] <[snake]> Ok, I installed windows AFTER ubuntu. and then I fixed the grub so I am in ubuntu now. but how can I get a nice menu for at bootup?
[22:39] <___Alex___> OerHeks: so I'm avoiding doing that ;)
[22:39] <[snake]> im using grub2
[22:39] <blade> blackhawk, in that same tab that i told you about you can search for ones that are not installed also
[22:39] <Eighteens> never install windows after ubuntu, lol
[22:39] <edbian> [snake]: If you fixed grub it should show the menu at every boot now.
[22:40] <OerHeks> ___Alex___, hard logout kills ? oops, sorry my bad
[22:40] <blade> eighteens no problem lol
[22:40] <___Alex___> OerHeks: the screensaver has been disabled, but the windows' aren't redrawing... tried to do a gtk-window-decorator --replace but no luck... (I broke down and installed elinks)
[22:40] <Eighteens> just kiding
[22:40] <blackhawk> blade,it's not in the search
[22:40] <blade> Eighteens, i'm not
[22:40] <blade> blackh
[22:40] <blade> blackhawk, one sec
[22:40] <[snake]> edbian, ok i just did it a second time, I will look. if I don't return, then it probably worked.
[22:41] <edbian> [snake]: ok
[22:41] <wdp> errm
[22:41] <wdp> im reading since 15 minutes the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades <- there's no "upgrade" button.
[22:41] <wdp> is it also possible to do that in a terminal..?
[22:42] <edbian> wdp: System -> Admin -> Software sources   change it from LTS to normal releases
[22:42] <\bMike\b> When I try to mount my encrypted directory using the instructions on the wiki, I only get the Readme file and the .desktop file. Are the instructions out of date?
[22:42] <blade> blackhawk,  you should be able to do that from the tools tab like i said as for how to download and install i have no idea
[22:42] <[snake]> edbian, I'm back. it didn't work.
[22:43] <quem> anyone with experience of turning off webcam led? :)
[22:43] <edbian> [snake]: What happens when you boot?
[22:43] <Eighteens> blade how long have you gone by that nick, just curious if your someone i use to know from like 16 or so years ago
[22:43] <[snake]> well, it goes through bios, then i see a cursor blinking in the corner, and bam! within 4 seconds im already logged into ubuntu
[22:43] <blade> quem i dont even want to know lol but if you search for cam in your package manager you should find some cool programs
[22:44] <wdp> edbian, theres nothing like that (selecting lts/normal)
[22:44] <blade> Eighteens, most of my life
[22:44] <Eighteens> did you use to run a gaming server? in like 95 ot 96
[22:44] <blade> Eighteens, what state do you know "Blade" from
[22:44] <edbian> wdp: hang on, overwhelmed right now
[22:44] <NoReGreT> i'm having trouble with suspending the system, it just freezes with a black screen, so i read somehwere to use "acpitool", that worked by suspending, but waking up is failing with the same black screen, any solutions? i'm on HP DV6 with dual GPUs [on Lucid]
[22:44] <Eighteens> dude would call me, i went by crackerbox
[22:45] <[snake]> crackerbox... lol
[22:45] <[snake]> thats a cool name
[22:45] <quem> blade: looking into the webcam module.. heh. hmm.. not looking good for me so far though.
[22:45] <davekong42> I am using Natty amd64 and have two monitors. When I don't set the displays to both have the same resolution the wallpaper turns black and objects that appear on the screen stay there indefinitely, is this a known bug? Is there some way to fix this?
[22:45] <[snake]> edbian needs an award, he's helping at least three or four people right now.
[22:45] <[snake]> at the same time O_O
[22:46] <blade> quem, lots of cool  webcam control programs around just need to do a little looking
[22:46] <edbian> [snake]: hahaha :)
[22:46] <xibalba> [snake] , same with ikonia
[22:46] <wdp> edbian, nevermind.
[22:46] <wdp> edbian, translation issue.
[22:46] <tjiggi_fo> wdp, software sources >> updates >> release upgrade
[22:46] <blade> Eighteens, Michigan here
[22:46] <edbian> [snake]: sudo nano /etc/default/grub   and change the menu timeout
[22:46] <edbian> wdp: So you found it?
[22:46] <xibalba> loeww
[22:46] <xibalba> who uses anano
[22:46] <xibalba> USE VIM, BE A MAN
[22:46] <Eighteens> blade: California
[22:46] <FloodBot1> xibalba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:47] <wdp> edbian, yes..
[22:47] <blade> Eighteens, then it's prob not the same Blade
[22:47] <pythonirc1012> my ubuntu guest machine on win 7 + vbox just hanged. Does anyone know how to debug this?
[22:47] <blade> Eighteens, unless you played a game called continuum
[22:48] <edbian> wdp: awesome :)
[22:48] <[snake]> edbian, it's at 10 right now. perhaps there is a key I need to press?(when I said 4 seconds before I might've been exaggerating.)
[22:49] <edbian> [snake]: After you change that file run sudo update-grub
[22:49] <edbian> [snake]: pressing shift during boot is the workaround to see the menu
[22:50] <[snake]> edbian, ok, thanks bro.
[22:50] <edbian> [snake]: sure
[22:50] <vixtal> this chat is only in english
[22:51] <edbian> xibalba: be a man, use ed
[22:51] <xibalba> =P
[22:52] <edbian> ed is the standard
[22:52] <blackhawk> blade i'm not sure but i can't find it when i search for it in the add-ons managers
[22:52] <blackhawk> and again the connection problem happened and suddenly all the messages flooded into me at once
[22:53] <\bMike\b> When I try to mount my encrypted directory using ecryptfs-mount-private, I only get the Readme file and the .desktop file. Am I doing something wrong?
[22:53] <kdub> the internet is a lie
[22:53] <edbian> kdub: hardly!
[22:54] <davekong42> Seems to be a little less buggy if I set them directly with xrandr, but there is still ghosting in the root background/ black wallpaper
[22:55] <davekong42> I guess unity support for dual monitors and not very good?
[22:56] <davekong42> s/and/not
[22:56] <davekong42> I mean is...
[22:56] <edbian> davekong42: You guess right.
[22:56] <seanzy> how can i install a lua interpreter?
[22:57] <gimyp4735> In Ubuntu 10.04.2 I enabled remote desktop.  I can conect and see the desktop but when I click anything, the screen stops updating/refreshing.  If I re-connect I can see the last click did work, bt since it stops refreshing I can't do anything.  Any ideas?
[22:57] <LinuxMan> hey i have a question
[22:57] <edbian> LinuxMan: what is it?
[22:58] <vixtal-epi> hi
[22:59] <edbian> gimyp4735: I notice that too.  If you wait a long time (and you have a fast connection) it fixes itself.
[22:59] <edbian> gimyp4735: ssh is my prefered method
[22:59] <gimyp4735> edbian I prefer a command line too but I need a GUI for what I am doing and X11 forwarding won't work well in this case sinc eI have to switch client machines.
[23:00] <edbian> gimyp4735: Yeah just wait and click stuff and it should fix. I hate that bug
[23:00] <vixtal-epi> this very geek chat, cool
[23:01] <_jay> how do I bring up the key identifier in terminal?
[23:01] <gimyp4735> edbian: It'd been almost 20 inutes with no change...
[23:01] <edbian> gimyp4735: Oh that's way to long.  I meant 1 minute or less.
[23:01] <edbian> gimyp4735: I don't know then :(
[23:02] <_jay> as in, the little window where I click/type in it and it tells me what the key is
[23:10] <cyperbg> guys I'm adding a script in etc/rc.local and it does not start on boot
[23:10] <cyperbg> this script is ~/Autominer/startmining.sh
[23:10] <justine777w> hello I downloaded 10.04 on my laptop but i am unable to enable wireless. Can someone help/
[23:10] <OerHeks> cyperbg, is it executable ?
[23:11] <cyperbg> hm I think not - it as s script - I can open it and edit it
[23:11] <cyperbg> it is a script
[23:11] <OerHeks> chmod +x ~/Autominer/startmining.sh
[23:11] <_jay> how do I know what ubuntu identifies as the page up key?
[23:11] <dougsko> justine777w: this should probably help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:11] <cyperbg> OerHeks let me try
[23:12] <cyperbg> OerHeks what is the command to check I set the permissions properly
[23:12] <OerHeks> ls -al
[23:13] <cyperbg> does it look good?
[23:13] <cyperbg> -rwxr-xr-x  1 cyper cyper  1554 2011-07-02 08:11 startmining.sh
[23:13] <OerHeks> yes, seems correct
[23:13] <cyperbg> ok let me restart and try it out
[23:13] <justine777w> dougsko: thank you but what exactly do I follow?
[23:14] <dougsko> justine777w: the instructions on the page
[23:14] <th0r> _jay: the program xev might help
[23:15] <_jay> ah that's it thx th0r
[23:16] <cyperbg> OerHeks it still doesn't work :(
[23:17] <OerHeks> cyperbg, did you edit /etc/rc.local with sudo ?
[23:17] <cyperbg> no
[23:17] <cyperbg> I read you don't need sudo there
[23:17] <OerHeks> i think it does.
[23:18] <justine777w> dougsko: yes, i understand that i need to read the directions, but i do not quite understand them.
[23:18] <cyperbg> hm so you suggest write: sudo ~/Autominer/startmining.sh
[23:18] <gamax92>  /join #wolfgame!
[23:19] <dougsko> justine777w: if you have a specific question, i'll try to answer it, but there's no way you could have even read it all yet
[23:19] <Python> Hey guys ! A new distro is coming soon ! http://polyboxos.schreiberstein.de/wp/
[23:19] <OerHeks> cyperbg, no, the instance in /etc/rc.local needs to be set as root
[23:20] <Jordan_U> !ot | Python
[23:20] <cyperbg> OerHeks how would I do that?
[23:21] <OerHeks> gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local #and put your command before exit 0
[23:21] <cyperbg> OerHeks I did gksudo nautilius and then I opened it, otherwise can't edit it
[23:21] <cyperbg> I think this is the same
[23:22] <OerHeks> same way to edit it as root, oke
[23:22] <cyperbg> so I did that
[23:22] <OerHeks> cyperbg, did you set it before exit 0 ?
[23:22] <cyperbg> yes
[23:22] <cyperbg> before
[23:23] <jnsl_> im having an issue mounting with sshfs, when i do sudo sshfs it says: "Connection reset by peer", but i need to do the command with sudo since i want to mount it /media/<directory>... the command works without sudo if i mount in my home folder. Also, i have copyed the entire .ssh folder from my user to root, so thats not the problem
[23:23] <cyperbg> OerHeks I even tried that:
[23:23] <cyperbg> cd ~/Autominer
[23:23] <cyperbg> ./startmining.sh
[23:23] <cntb> please excuse laziness ! interested in finding earlier pastes of text on my ubuntu 10.10 like clipboard storage
[23:24] <cntb> Actually on Natty 11.04
[23:24] <cyperbg> OerHeks any other ideas?
[23:24] <cntb> please excuse laziness ! interested in finding earlier pastes of text on my ubuntu 10.10 like clipboard storage
[23:24] <OerHeks> cyperbg, i don't konw why it does not run
[23:25] <Numn> somebody here know how i can replace evoloution with thunderbird in indicator..
[23:25] <alex--> My mta server works =D
[23:25] <dougsko> cntb: check out glipper
[23:26] <cyperbg> anyone else know why adding a line to rc.local does not run at startup?
[23:26] <jrib> cyperbg: be more specific
[23:27] <slashfoo> greetings earthlings
[23:27] <dougsko> cyperbg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[23:28] <cyperbg> jrib I have this script called startmining.sh that I want to run at reboot automatically. What is the best way to do that?
[23:28] <bmanplus2> I got a question for you all if anyone has the time
[23:28] <DasEi> just ask bmanplus2
[23:29] <slashfoo> is there still an issue with flash and 64bit linuxes?
[23:29] <bmanplus2> well I dont know if I am in the right place but when vineyard is installed it takes over the places menu
[23:30] <DasEi> !startup | cyberbg
[23:31] <bmanplus2> when I click on a menu in places it asks me where to put it in vineyard
[23:31] <cyperbg> DasEi I've tried that, but it is a script that calls other scripts - it won't work when addedd to Startup Applications
[23:31] <azripah> I'm having a problem- my ubuntu server is not allowing http connections after an update today- anyone have any ideas?
[23:31] <cntb> will do dougsko .thank you quick response from you
[23:31] <dougsko> cyperbg: read the link i gave you. the short answer is that rc.local is not the debian way of starting things
[23:32] <cyperbg> dougsko I'll have a read and report back
[23:32] <DasEi> cyberbg: you can add it to /etc/rc.local , that file runs with superprivilegs last in backup, and let's you do it, finish it with a "&" (no quotes)
[23:32] <DasEi> last in startup*
[23:32] <azripah> the upgrade was to natty with about 600MB in new packages
[23:33] <azripah> if that helps
[23:33] <cyperbg> DasEi I've added it there but dougsko just said that rc.local is not the debian way of starting things
[23:33] <CoJaBo> how do I increase the swap size ?
[23:33] <cyperbg> DasEi forget it - I added it to the Startup application and it runs fine now :D
[23:33] <azripah> go into gparted, unmount it, and increase it
[23:34] <azripah> not neccisarily in that order
[23:34] <jrib> cyperbg: use @reboot in your crontab or create a proper upstart script
[23:34] <CoJaBo> the installer auto-set it wrong (bug?)
[23:34] <DasEi> cyperbg: nice, have fun
[23:34] <azripah> So can anyone help with my server issue?
[23:34] <jrib> cyperbg: note that in startup application it only runs after login
[23:34] <azripah> It's rather urgent.
[23:35] <jrib> azripah: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[23:35] <cyperbg> jrib my username logins automatically
[23:35] <CoJaBo> azripah:  can it shrink the main position tho?
[23:35] <CoJaBo> partition*
[23:35] <azripah> jrib: I did- nobody answered
[23:35] <azripah> Basically it refuses any connections with http or https
[23:35] <azripah> but ssh is fine
[23:36] <dougsko> jrib: speaking of upstart, is there a way to make it drop privleges when running something? if it can, i could never figure out how
[23:36] <jrib> azripah: verify the server is running?
[23:36] <DasEi> CoJaBo: you can use gparted to resize partitions, but then will have to correct the uuids in /etc/fstab
[23:36] <azripah> CoJaBo:It can shrink the main partition if you unmount it which is only possible in a live environment
[23:36] <azripah> jrib:I'm using irssi on the server actually
[23:36] <deven_> please help me, i have ubuntu 11.04 installed on my pc, everytime i login it keeps default setting for sound preference, how can i make it remember my sound settings on each restart
[23:36] <DasEi> !blkid | CoJaBo
[23:36] <jrib> azripah: I mean the server program (like apache)
[23:37] <azripah> jrib:yeah, of course. First thing I checked
[23:37] <jrib> azripah: so can you view the page locally on the server?
[23:38] <azripah> jrib:no, when I go to it on links it says something like permission denied
[23:38] <azripah> I can of course view it manually on /var/www
[23:38] <slashfoo> excuse me, is there still an issue with adobe flash and 64bit linux systems?
[23:38] <CoJaBo> DasEi:  where else are the uuids stored? I had to format a swap partition once, and it did not resume from hibernate even after fixing /etc/fstab
[23:38] <jrib> azripah: does it give the same permission denied message remotely?
[23:38] <adac> hi guys. what is a nice firewall for ubuntu?
[23:38] <jrib> slashfoo: only if your from like 2005
[23:39] <jrib> you're*
[23:39] <kdub> adac: iptables
[23:39] <kdub> only one you'll ever need
[23:39] <azripah> jrib:on firefox nightly it says "cannot establish connection to the server"
[23:39] <dougsko> adac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[23:39] <azripah> I'm guessing it'd say the same on links but I'm on a windows laptop right now
[23:39] <deven_> can someone look at my question above and help me
[23:39] <lfender> is there a better media player then rythem box if some what is it
[23:40] <Senix> how do i reinstall grub after installing fixing my windows mbr?
[23:40] <azripah> lfender:banshee, exaile, amarok
[23:40] <adac> dougsko, oh thanks!
[23:40] <slashfoo> jrib: thank you :)
[23:41] <DasEi> !grub | senix
[23:41] <CoJaBo> slashfoo:  make sure your runing latest flash version
[23:41] <DasEi> senix: first above link
[23:41] <lfender> what would racomand
[23:41] <Senix> DasEi, thnx
[23:41] <ciss> how can i get upstart to log to a file during boot?
[23:41] <Colin969> Hey
[23:41] <Colin969> Can i get some help
[23:42] <dougsko> ciss: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Debugging
[23:42] <KM0201> Colin969: if you ask a question
[23:42] <Colin969> Anyone?
[23:42] <DasEi> !ASK | Colin969
[23:42] <Colin969> Ah
[23:42] <Colin969> Well...
[23:43] <DasEi> ciss: which info you want logged ?
[23:43] <CoJaBo> k, new question then- if I reformat a swap partition and fox the uuid in fstab, where else do I have to fix it to get hibernate to work again?
[23:43] <Colin969> I formatted my Ubuntu partion from a second copy of Ubuntu, now on boot I get Error : File Not Found Grub Rescue >
[23:43] <Colin969> I read up about it but i dont have a USB or CD For a few days
[23:43] <azripah> so, any help?
[23:44] <Colin969> Is there anyway to boot into XP at all until then?
[23:44] <slashfoo> CoJaBo: thanks
[23:44] <ciss> DasEi: basically the whole verbose output
[23:45] <Colin969> Nope?
[23:45] <DasEi> ciss: look in /var/log  (syslog...) and pipe dmesg to a file
[23:45] <OerHeks> Colin969, you can repair the MBR with your windows cd
[23:46] <DasEi> ciss: also you can disable bootsplash, though messages are hard to read because of speedy scrolling
[23:46] <Colin969> Oerheks, im asking anyway WITHOUT A Ubuntu USB or live CD
[23:46] <dougsko> ciss: the link i gave you shows how to do exactly that. the short answer is you add --verbose to your kernel options where upstart is called
[23:46] <th0r> Colin969: probably not
[23:46] <Colin969> Damn =/
[23:47] <DasEi> ciss: dmesg > dmesg.txt && gedit dmesg.txt
[23:47] <Colin969> No netbook till wednesday them.
[23:47] <hearnoseeno> colin969 you could attempt to use an sd card
[23:47] <Colin969> Oh BTW Th0r is there a way to install a Ubuntu Partition in windows?
[23:48] <th0r> Colin969: there is wubi, but I don't use ubuntu so have no experience with it
[23:48] <Colin969> Hearnoseeno The cloest i have is a 512mb MS DUO
[23:48] <Colin969> Which i could use but its JUST Too small
[23:49] <hearnoseeno> colin969
[23:49] <Colin969> Hmm
[23:49] <deven_> how to make system remember my sound preferences forever, it keeps coming to default level on restart currently, i have ubuntu 11.04 installed
[23:49] <DasEi> Colin969: 512 bootable ? use netinstaller image
[23:49] <hearnoseeno> colin969 well if you're really stuck till wednesday you can always try to just find a small live os
[23:50] <hearnoseeno> until you can get ubuntu up and running at another date
[23:50] <upgrdman> anyone use wifi and get transfer speeds over 3 - 3.5MB/s? I have a 802.11b/g/n router and adapter cards, both of which support both 2.4 and 5ghz. even with my laptop and router on the same desk i can
[23:50] <DasEi> !minimal | Colin969
[23:50] <upgrdman> *i can't get more than 3MB/s
[23:51] <Colin969> DasEi, I was wondering as well, why isnt there a Ubuntu Netbook 11.04? I updated fine from 10.10
[23:51] <DasEi> Colin969: netbook is depreciated
[23:51] <DasEi> !netbook
[23:51] <Colin969> !netbook
[23:51] <Colin969> Hmm?
[23:52] <dougsko> deven_: according to here, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting, 'sudo alsactl store 0' might do the trick
[23:52] <Colin969> Ill try out Minimal later if i can get somin done
[23:52] <DasEi> Colin969: no factoid there, it's integrated in the standard installer now
[23:53] <Colin969> DasEi, Oh,
[23:53] <hearnoseeno> is anyone familiar with chromium-browser?
[23:53] <Colin969> Hearnoseeno Vaguely
[23:53] <deven_> thanks alot dougsko
[23:53] <ciss> dougsko: did that already, but the messages were flashing by. i'm currently trying the init=/bin/bash strategy to debug my boot problems
[23:53] <DasEi> !details | hearnoseeno
[23:54] <hearnoseeno> I'm trying to get logging via this command:  chromium-browser --enable-logging --v=1
[23:55] <Colin969> Back in a sec
[23:55] <hearnoseeno> trouble is that I can't find the .log file and it's frustrating since the search takes awhile and sometimes crashes or freezes
[23:55] <Colin969> Think i can get this running
[23:56] <hearnoseeno> *searching the system's files/folders
[23:56] <Colin969> DasEi, shall I extract the ISO in 7-Zip into the card?
[23:57] <DasEi> Colin969: no, use unetbootin for windows and play it to the card
[23:57] <Colin969> Ok.
[23:58] <Colin969> Why do i bloody love this IRC Channel?
[23:58] <DasEi> rofl :)
[23:58] <Colin969> Im pissed off too, i'd just downloaded like 80GB of stuff
[23:59] <DasEi> Colin969: anyway, keep language friendly
[23:59] <\bMike\b> When I try to mount my encrypted directory using the passphrase I wrote down when the encrypted homedir was made, I only get the Readme file and the .desktop file. Am I doing something wrong?
[23:59] <Colin969> Pissed is a bad word? Theres already drinks called Pussy and Boobee