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stephenthemartyrhi i really need some help04:11
naptasticHas anyone here tried compiling the new -rt kernel? (3.0.0-rc7-rt1)04:11
holsteinnaptastic: im still using the old one04:12
stephenthemartyri have a dual boot with windows xp/ubuntu studio and there was a graphics crash and i have no idea why and now when i run jackaudio and hydrogen drums it eats my cpu and has x-runs04:12
holsteinthe question is, how it the RT capabilities on the stock 3.0 kernel :)04:12
stephenthemartyreven though it was fine before04:12
holsteinhow are the *04:12
ubuntududeis their a ubuntu studio wubi?04:12
holsteinubuntudude: you can, i would suggest just doing the normal buntu04:13
holsteinand adding what you want04:13
holsteinopen a package manager and search ubuntustudio, and read about the metapackages, or04:13
ubottuTo install Ubuntu Studio on top of a vanilla Ubuntu install, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Installation04:13
naptasticholstein, that's a good question; I've actually been using 2.6.37-bfs since Con patched it, and it performs basically as well as I could ask for...04:13
holsteinnaptastic: thats awesome... im ready for it :)04:13
naptasticholstein, yeah, 3.0.0+bfs is gonna be friggin' awesome.04:14
holsteinstephenthemartyr: i would make sure you are booting the same kernel04:14
stephenthemartyrwhat dop you mean04:14
holsteinstephenthemartyr: the kernel you are booting?04:14
stephenthemartyrim a novice,04:14
stephenthemartyrno im not booting04:14
naptasticholstein, but for my audio stuff, I just compile the whole audio stack myself... (JACK, lv2, ardour...)04:14
holsteinmaybe you updated, and the kernel order got changed04:14
stephenthemartyri dont think haha04:14
holsteinstephenthemartyr: dont think... make sure... in a terminal run04:15
holsteinuname -a04:15
stephenthemartyrok sorry04:15
holsteinstephenthemartyr: you did *not* do any upgrades?04:16
stephenthemartyrLinux ubuntu 2.6.32-33-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 21:09:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux <holstein>04:16
holsteinif i were you, i would run system upgrades, and reboot04:16
holsteinthen, i would consider trying an RT kernel, or relaxing the JACK settings04:16
stephenthemartyrhow do i do thaT?why do i need to reboot what abouit my music i have will i lose it?04:16
holsteinstephenthemartyr: what music?04:17
holsteinyou mean files?04:17
holsteinyou dont lose any files from rebooting04:17
stephenthemartyrbut jack was working fine before the graphics thing went down04:17
holsteinstephenthemartyr: im proposing this...04:17
stephenthemartyralthough only difference i see as far as graphics is the neato screen savers are not working04:17
holsteinyou upgraded the box... you were running an realtime kernel, and you got the latest -generic kernel which got put in front of the -RT one04:18
stephenthemartyryes files,i apologize<holstein>04:18
holsteini think whatever graphics crash is irrelavant04:18
stephenthemartyrcan you explain what i should do?04:19
holsteinif i were you, i would run the system upgrades04:19
stephenthemartyrthanks your very nice04:19
holsteinthen, i would try a realtime kernel04:19
holsteinOR try relaxing the JACK settings04:19
stephenthemartyrand how do i that,yea but i dont understand why it was working perfect last nite and now its not04:20
holsteinstephenthemartyr: thats the past04:20
holsteinthats over now04:20
holsteinyou nor i have any idea what happened04:20
holsteinso move on...04:20
holsteinin a terminal04:20
holsteinsudo apt-get update04:20
holsteinsudo apt-get upgrade04:20
holsteinshould be no errors...04:20
holsteinreport if any04:20
holsteinafter that is finished, reboot, and test, then...04:21
stephenthemartyrupdate went normal,upgrade says "ephen@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."04:22
stephenthemartyristhat good?04:22
ubuntududeif their is a Ubuntu Studio Wubi ca I have  link?04:22
stephenthemartyrwhat is a wubi?04:23
holsteinubuntudude: i'll look, but strongly consider the other route04:23
stephenthemartyr<holstein>so i restart my comp?04:23
holsteinubuntudude: actually, i dont see one, so thats the deal04:24
ubuntududeThat stinks......04:24
holsteinif you want a wubi, you install vanilla, and upgrade04:24
holsteinubuntudude: ubuntu = ubuntustudio04:24
holsteinSO, you can just add what you wan04:24
ubuntududeLink for vannilia please?04:24
holsteinstephenthemartyr: no need to restart04:25
stephenthemartyrhow do i reboot as you said04:26
holsteinstephenthemartyr: no need to reboot04:26
stephenthemartyrum what was the next step?04:26
holsteinif i were you , i would try a differnt kernel04:26
holsteinstephenthemartyr: in the terminal04:26
holsteinsudo apt-get install linux-rt04:26
stephenthemartyrthat wont mess my computer up right?04:27
holsteinstephenthemartyr: feel free to research any command anyone, including me, asks you to paste in04:27
holsteinsudo, is to get root privlages04:27
stephenthemartyri thought i read warnings ABOUT  using it04:28
holsteinapt-get is for package management04:28
stephenthemartyrsorry i meant no offense04:28
holsteininstall is just that04:28
stephenthemartyrif i was rude i apologize04:28
holsteinlinux-rt is the realtime kernel that *should* give you lowerlatency04:28
holsteinits not trivial though04:28
holsteinyou dont just install it04:28
holsteinyou need to boot into that kernel04:28
holsteinafter installing it04:28
stephenthemartyrhow does that happen04:29
holsteinstephenthemartyr: no worries, im quite serious... dont just copy and paste, google the commands at least04:29
holsteinyou want to know whats going on before running the commands04:29
stephenthemartyryour right04:29
holsteinstephenthemartyr: when you boot the machine, you see grub right?04:30
holsteinyou can choose windows or whatever?04:30
holsteinseveral lines for ubuntu and windows right?04:30
stephenthemartyrwhat is the grub?04:31
holsteinthe boot loader04:32
holsteinyou should see a black screen where you choose between ubuntu or windows right?04:32
holsteinanyways... when you install that package04:34
holsteinsudo apt-get install linux-rt04:34
holsteinthat *should* install a realtime kernel which would be the next thing to try04:34
holsteinwhen you reboot the box, where you hopefully see a choice between linux and windows, you'll see something about a 2.6.31-11-rt kernel04:36
holsteinyou want to try booting it, and see if the xruns are better, and if anything else is negatively effected04:36
stephenthemartyrok and what was the graphics x crash thing?ever heard of that04:37
holsteinsure, but i dont have enough information to go on04:38
holsteinthat graphics crash, and the xruns seem unrelated to me04:38
holsteini think something else happened, and it just seems that way04:38
stephenthemartyrright yes black screen04:39
stephenthemartyrits instralling now04:40
holsteinstephenthemartyr: you are up to date with upgrades, which means, you have upgraded recently04:41
stephenthemartyri googled it but i came to a forum where people were talking about stuff i had no iodea what it meant,that happens alot sadsad04:41
holsteinand that upgrade likely broke something04:41
holsteincould have broken your graphics, and JACK04:41
stephenthemartyraww crap04:41
stephenthemartyrhow do i find out if it did04:41
holsteini know you did04:41
holsteinyou didnt have any packages to update just then04:42
holsteinthats means you are up to date, and just upgraded04:42
stephenthemartyrwhen?the update manager earlier came up and i hit install04:42
holsteinthat would do it04:42
stephenthemartyrwhy would the updatemanager let me update and break somin?04:43
holsteinits an update04:43
holsteinthey sometimes break things04:43
holsteineveryone has different hardware04:43
holsteinthis is the same for *any* OS04:43
stephenthemartyrso i should reboot into the realtime kernel yea?04:43
holsteinstephenthemartyr: i would try that04:43
stephenthemartyrwill you be here for a bit incase it doesnt work?04:44
holsteinshould be04:44
stephenthemartyrand if it did go into "lowgraphics mode04:44
stephenthemartyr"can i fix that04:44
holsteinsee, i think you broke a lot with an update04:44
holsteinwhat graphics card?04:45
stephenthemartyrdont know,what copmmand would tell me/04:45
holsteinif you have an nvidia proprietary driver, that kernel wont work04:45
holsteinstephenthemartyr: try in the GUI04:45
stephenthemartyri dont know04:45
stephenthemartyrwhat kind04:45
holsteinwhere ever you feel comfortable04:45
holsteinsystem information?04:45
holsteinsomething like that04:45
holsteini would run lspci in terminal...04:45
stephenthemartyr00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)04:47
holsteinstephenthemartyr: ah04:47
stephenthemartyrso my graphics card is04:47
holsteinwe dont paste that here like that, you use http://paste.ubuntu.com/04:47
holsteinyou'll get droped for flooding by the server04:48
holsteinno worries :)04:48
holsteinthats intel, which is usually well supported04:48
holsteinand you can try the RT kernel with it04:48
stephenthemartyrwill it just go back to "normal" graphics?04:49
holsteinlets do that... and assume all the trouble is with the current kernel version04:49
stephenthemartyrhaha i know nothing04:49
holsteinstephenthemartyr: you just mentioned that04:49
holsteini was not aware that you were in some safe graphics mode04:49
holsteinit might though04:49
stephenthemartyri dont know if i am or not04:50
stephenthemartyrim confused04:50
holsteinIF the kernel version is the issue, and thats likely04:50
holsteinstephenthemartyr: just reboot, and see if you see that kernel, and try it04:50
stephenthemartyrok ill go check,thanks sososososososo much!04:50
holsteinand we04:50
holstein'll go from there04:50
stephenthemartyrthank you04:50
stephenthemartyri owe yuou bigtime04:50
holsteinnah... we havnet sorted it out yet04:50
holsteinBUT we will04:51
stephenthemartyrcool ill be back04:51
stephenthemartyrit said no device mounted when i picked the realtime kernel05:14
holsteinwhat said what?05:15
stephenthemartyrthe comp went to a black screen that said that05:15
holsteinstephenthemartyr: did you see another kernel?05:15
holsteinanother -generic one05:15
stephenthemartyri picked it05:15
holsteinOK... and?05:15
stephenthemartyroh i thought i was to pick the rt one05:15
holsteinright, but thats not the last one that worked05:16
holsteinthere should be another one in there that you used to use05:16
holsteinis that what you are in now?05:16
holsteinuname -a05:16
stephenthemartyrno regular one05:17
stephenthemartyr\same as before05:17
holsteinso when you reboot, you have windows, the RT kernel, and only the one -generic kernel?05:17
holsteinno other -generic kernel option?05:17
stephenthemartyrthere may have been another,i i just thought i was to pick the rt05:18
stephenthemartyrso pick the other generic05:18
holsteinstephenthemartyr: try that real quick05:18
holsteinyou should see the current one you are using05:18
holsteinand some older one05:18
holsteinand the -rt one is probably near the bottom of the list05:18
stephenthemartyrso the older one i pick?05:18
holsteintry that, see if all is well05:18
stephenthemartyrhey man,it looks like there are 2 other generics05:28
holsteincool, are you trying one now?05:28
stephenthemartyri think so but same thiong with xruns05:28
stephenthemartyr 2.6.32-21-generic05:29
holsteinhow about the graphics?05:29
holsteinseem better?05:29
stephenthemartyrthats not the same right05:29
stephenthemartyrsame jackaudio problem05:29
stephenthemartyrman its sad cuz ive been having problems for a few weeks,this is actually a new faster computer05:29
stephenthemartyri used to have lucid on an old one and this one worked great05:30
holsteinthis is lucid05:30
stephenthemartyrshould i try the other generic one?05:30
holsteinthats the lucid kernel05:30
stephenthemartyrbut not ubuntu studio before i mean05:30
holsteinubuntu = ubuntustudio05:31
holsteinthats lucid ubuntustudio05:31
stephenthemartyrcan i unupdate it05:31
stephenthemartyrright im saying on my old computer05:31
stephenthemartyrany thoughts on next steps?05:31
holsteintheres a history05:31
holsteinif you open synatpic pacakge manager05:32
holsteingo to file - history05:32
holsteinthere you can see what got upgraded last05:32
holsteinprobably something got broken05:32
holsteini use 10.04 with KXstudio ppa's added05:33
stephenthemartyryea i have that as well so i could get the .9.5 version of hydrogen05:33
stephenthemartyryea im there in synaptic05:34
holsteinhydrogen wont have broken JACK though05:34
stephenthemartyri know the last update was a bunch of studd should i list them?05:34
holsteini wont be able to tell05:35
holsteinyou can literally go in and step each one down05:35
holsteinOR, go for the likely ones05:35
holsteinif i were you, i would try live CD's and try and pinpoint what the issue is05:35
stephenthemartyrwhat is live cd and how do i do that05:36
holsteinchoose something within the scope of your comfort level05:36
stephenthemartyryou mean reboot the whole thing?05:36
holsteinif thats reisntalling, do that05:36
stephenthemartyri dont have a comfort level,i want to fix it so i can record05:37
holsteinif you say lucid worked great, install that05:37
stephenthemartyri like studio better tho05:37
holsteinKXstudio has a live CD05:37
holsteinstephenthemartyr: ubuntu = ubuntustudio05:37
stephenthemartyryea but ubuntustudio is different then lucid it serems05:38
holsteinyou would think so05:38
holsteinbut actually, its not05:38
holsteinlucid is just the release #05:38
holstein10.04 is code named lucid05:38
stephenthemartyrid rather not reinstall,if i downgrade the things in synaptic should i go back to the original kernel?05:38
holsteinubuntustudio 10.04 = ubuntu 10.0405:38
holsteinwith just a few tweaks here and there, and extra pacakges05:38
holsteinbut the same repositories05:38
holsteinstephenthemartyr: you've already tried kernels05:39
holsteinso, you can stop with that05:39
holsteinits going to be a JACK update maybe05:39
holsteinim not sure... i thought this was a box that had worked well for a long time05:39
stephenthemartyryes but you said i could downgrade the items from my last upgrade05:39
holsteini would try running JACK as root for troubleshooting purposes05:40
holsteinalso, try something other than hydrogen05:40
holsteintry any other JACK application05:40
holsteinsomething like ardour05:40
holsteinardour has great JACK support05:40
holsteinH2, not so much...05:40
stephenthemartyrok so i should stay in whatever kerne;l iam in?05:40
holsteinstephenthemartyr: yes05:41
holsteinstephenthemartyr: has JACK *ever* been stable on this box?05:41
holsteinwhen? and how?05:41
holsteinwhat verion of JACK?05:41
holsteinthese are the questions you'll need to answer05:41
stephenthemartyrlast night and earlier today05:41
stephenthemartyrit was working fine05:42
holsteinyou can get JACK from that PPA i listed05:42
stephenthemartyrwhat good will that do?05:42
holsteinstephenthemartyr: well, it could potentially give you non-broken pacakges05:43
holsteinassuming thats whats up05:43
holsteini dont think you want to move backwards05:43
stephenthemartyroh so which rep. should i add to my software sources?05:43
holsteinstephenthemartyr: i would carefully read all of http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories05:43
holsteinmaybe a few times05:43
holsteinthen, if you still dont know, ask me, or the folks in #opensourcemusicians05:44
holsteinOR #kxstudio05:44
stephenthemartyrwould a hydrogen update with a "fixed 1" break things?05:44
holsteini can tell you the ones i use05:44
holsteinstephenthemartyr: sure05:44
holsteinwhere did you get it?05:44
stephenthemartyrfrom my last update05:44
holsteinstephenthemartyr: if i were you, i would check out how to remove and purge PPA's just in case, and i would try the kxstudio PPA's05:45
stephenthemartyri have their music one05:45
holsteini use the main repo and the kernel one05:46
stephenthemartyraahhh the ppa puge thing ,i tried that for like a week and got no where c`uz it made no sense05:46
holsteinstephenthemartyr: purge?05:46
stephenthemartyrim not trying to be difficult05:46
holsteinwhat made no sense?05:47
stephenthemartyrpurge ppa thing05:47
stephenthemartyrhow to do it05:47
holsteinwhat thing?05:47
stephenthemartyrpurge a ppa05:47
stephenthemartyri have to download some software called ppa purge right?05:47
holsteinyou should have it05:48
stephenthemartyrok yea thats the site,ill try it from the terminal05:49
stephenthemartyrhow do i ion synaptic downgrade hydrogen to the last version i had05:49
holsteinstephenthemartyr: you can do that in synaptic05:50
holsteinopen synaptic05:50
holsteinsearch for hydrogen05:50
holsteinyou should be able to click on hydrogen and hit control+E05:52
stephenthemartyrit only shows .9.4 but it was just upgraded from .9.5.2 to .9.5.3??05:52
stephenthemartyrwhere is the old one its not listed05:52
stephenthemartyrthe version that i had right before the last update05:52
holsteinyou should see a drop down where you can choose to force an older version05:52
holsteinif control+E doesnt work, you can find 'force' under the 'package' menu05:53
holsteinstephenthemartyr: alright... im out05:53
holsteinits going to get quiet05:53
stephenthemartyryea i went there but it had only the two versions,yet my history05:53
holsteinfeel free to try #opensourcemusicians05:54
stephenthemartyrthis sucls05:54
stephenthemartyrhave a good one05:54
holsteintry kxstudio live05:54
holsteinmaybe you would benifit from a more 'out of the box' system05:54
stephenthemartyri dont know what that is05:54
holsteinlike, everything works out of the box05:54
holsteinyou might have tricky hardware though05:55
stephenthemartyrwhere would that be cuz it seems like ubuntu always breaks05:55
holsteinwell, your hardware support breaks*05:55
holsteinubuntu is just fine05:55
holsteinits just broken for you on your hardware05:55
holsteinand im not sure why05:56
holsteinanyways... check out #kxstudio and kxstudio live05:56
holstein're not sure you have a graphics problem05:57
holsteinyou had some sort of crash05:57
holsteinthis is an internal sound card, so you should expect stellar performance05:58
holsteinanyways... im out... we'll get you sorted somehow or other... GN05:58
stephenthemartyrthanks dude05:59
Jordi_Can someone help me with a problem with JACK?08:59
Jordi_10:59:31.732 Patchbay deactivated. 10:59:31.738 Statistics reset. 10:59:31.772 ALSA connection change. Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started 10:59:31.779 ALSA connection graph change.09:00
AutoStaticHello Jordi_09:00
AutoStaticJordi_: that's a default QjackCtl message afaik09:01
Jordi_yes i've got a new message now i've connected my usb interface09:02
Jordi_but it's so long it's probably hard to read it here so I'm selecting a couple of importet lines09:02
Jordi_ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode Cannot initialize driver09:03
Jordi_I installed the ALSA driver for my external soundcard (Tascam US-122L)09:04
AutoStaticSomething else has your soundcard09:04
Jordi_I am in the audio group09:04
AutoStaticWhat are your JACK settings? Are you using QjackCtl?09:04
Jordi_I can't send a screenshot here, can I?09:04
AutoStaticNo, but you could patebin it09:05
AutoStaticfor example09:05
AutoStaticAh that one doesn't accept images, my bad09:06
Jordi_ok, here it comes then:09:06
Jordi_realtime turned on09:06
Jordi_priority default09:06
Jordi_no memory lock09:06
Jordi_frames/period 51209:06
Jordi_unlock memory turned off as well09:07
Jordi_sample rate 4410009:07
Jordi_soft mode turned off, periods/buffer 209:07
Jordi_monitor turned off09:07
Jordi_force 16bit turned off09:07
Jordi_h/w monitor unticked09:07
Jordi_h/w meter unchecked as well09:08
Jordi_ignore h/w unchecked09:08
Jordi_port maximum 51209:08
Jordi_verbose messages off09:08
Jordi_timeout 500 msec09:08
AutoStaticThat's all well09:08
Jordi_interface hw:1 (which is my Tascam)09:08
Jordi_dither none09:08
AutoStaticExcept for the periods setting, that shoudl be 309:08
Jordi_audio duplex09:08
Jordi_frames/period = 3?09:09
AutoStaticThe Tascam US122L is kinda finicky to set up09:09
AutoStaticNo periods/buffer 309:09
AutoStaticframes/periods 512 is ok09:09
Jordi_ok i'll continue09:10
Jordi_audio duplex09:10
Jordi_rest on that side = default09:10
AutoStaticYeah, should be ok.09:10
AutoStaticWhat's the output of the terminal command 'cat /proc/asound/cards' (without the quotes) ?09:11
Jordi_i once did that09:11
Jordi_0 was the internal soundcard09:11
Jordi_1 was my tascam09:11
Jordi_but i'll try again09:11
Jordi_ 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel                       HDA Intel at 0xb4400000 irq 43  1 [US122L         ]: USB US-122L - TASCAM US-122L                       TASCAM US-122L (644:800e if 0 at 002/003)09:12
AutoStaticGood, so LASA has named it US122L09:12
AutoStaticSo in the interfaces field of QjackCtl you could also enter 'hw:US122L' manually, this way Jack will always use the correct card, just FYI ;)09:13
Jordi_ok, i've just done that09:14
AutoStaticEverything else (application wise) that could generate sound is turned off09:14
Jordi_no firefox is still on and can generate sound, but there's no sound coming from it right now09:14
Jordi_haven't started youtube or anything like that09:14
AutoStaticAh, then could you also close FF?09:14
Jordi_yes but i'll login to this forum on my cell phone09:15
AutoStaticYou're not using an IRC client?09:15
Jordi_no not that I'm aware of09:15
AutoStaticHow did you login this channel? Through a webpage?09:16
AutoStaticAh ok09:16
Jordi_should it work with pidgin?09:16
AutoStaticjust a sec, let's check first if something is blocking your sound09:17
Jordi_ok but it doesn't work on my phone and i have to stay on the chat I think09:18
Jordi_i can install an IRC client09:18
AutoStaticJust check first what is blocking your sound with 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/pcm'09:19
AutoStaticWhat is the output of that terminal command?09:19
Jordi_that's very weird09:19
Jordi_no output09:19
Jordi_does that mean everything should be fine?09:20
AutoStaticAnd 'lsof | grep /dev/snd' ?09:20
Jordi_pulseaudi 1658      jordi   22u      CHR              116,7      0t0       5963 /dev/snd/controlC0 pulseaudi 1658      jordi   29u      CHR              116,7      0t0       5963 /dev/snd/controlC0 ^C09:20
AutoStaticOk, so nothing is blocking it09:21
jordi__I'm back on an IRC client09:22
AutoStaticBut FF is not blocking your soundcard09:22
AutoStaticCould you try starting JACK again?09:23
jordi__just did09:23
jordi__should i paste the output in pastebin?09:23
AutoStaticYeah, that's ok09:23
AutoStaticAh: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode09:24
AutoStaticWhat is the output of lspci | grep USB ?09:25
jordi__yes that's what i pasted earlier this conversation:P09:25
jordi__let's see09:25
AutoStaticYeah, I didn't read it correctly09:25
AutoStaticOversaw it09:25
jordi__00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)09:25
jordi__00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)09:25
AutoStaticThis is a problematic USB controller09:26
AutoStaticYou probably can't use full-duplex with it09:26
AutoStatic(so capture and playback at once)09:26
AutoStaticAre you on a desktop or a notebook?09:26
jordi__it does work on windows09:27
AutoStaticThat's probably because the Windows driver works around this issue09:27
jordi__same error lines as far as i can see09:27
AutoStaticWhat is the output of lsusb ?09:28
jordi__Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0644:800e TEAC Corp. TASCAM US-122L09:28
jordi__Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub09:28
jordi__Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub09:28
jordi__Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:5801 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.09:28
jordi__Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub09:28
jordi__Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub09:28
AutoStaticYeah, that Integrated Rate Matchin hub thing09:28
AutoStaticthat could be the bottleneck too09:28
jordi__is it very hard to fix?09:29
AutoStaticAfaik the only fix is to get yourself a USB2 PCIe ExpressCard09:29
AutoStaticBut could you try to run JACK with capture or playback only?09:30
jordi__11:27:22.025 JACK is starting...09:31
jordi__11:27:22.026 /usr/bin/jackd -p512 -dalsa -dhw:US122L -r44100 -p512 -n3 -P09:31
jordi__Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory09:31
jordi__Cannot connect to server socket09:31
jordi__jack server is not running or cannot be started09:31
jordi__11:27:22.046 JACK was started with PID=4805.09:31
jordi__no message buffer overruns09:31
jordi__no message buffer overruns09:31
jordi__jackdmp 1.9.709:31
jordi__Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.09:31
jordi__Copyright 2004-2010 Grame.09:31
jordi__jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY09:31
jordi__This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it09:31
jordi__under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details09:31
jordi__JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 1009:31
jordi__Acquire audio card Audio109:31
jordi__creating alsa driver ... hw:US122L|-|512|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit09:31
jordi__Using ALSA driver USB US-122L running on card 1 - TASCAM US-122L (644:800e if 0 at 002/003)09:31
jordi__ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode09:31
jordi__Cannot initialize driver09:31
jordi__JackServer::Open() failed with -109:31
jordi__Failed to start server09:31
jordi__11:27:22.184 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.09:31
jordi__11:27:24.196 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.09:31
jordi__Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory09:32
jordi__Cannot connect to server socket09:32
jordi__jack server is not running or cannot be started09:32
jordi__what does the ExpressCard cost09:32
AutoStaticLess than €20,-: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/161615/sweex-2-port-usb-20-pc-card.html09:34
AutoStaticDo you have access to another USB soundcard? Just to make sure that it'sthe USB hub/host controller and not the Tascam soundcard09:35
jordi__are you dutch as well?09:36
jordi__no i don't09:36
AutoStaticJazeker :)09:36
jordi__oh :P09:36
AutoStaticOr is it possible to try your Tascam on a different system, maybe with a LiveCD?09:36
jordi__live cd zou ik kunnen proberen09:37
jordi__als ik m nog ergens kan vinden09:37
AutoStaticHe he :)09:37
AutoStaticWaar is die LiveCD als je 'm nodig hebt09:37
jordi__maar ik denk niet dat het wel met de livecd werkt09:38
AutoStaticWaar zit je ergens in NL?09:38
AutoStaticBedoel andere computer09:39
AutoStaticJe zou het op een andere computer kunnen proberen09:39
AutoStaticMet een LiveCD eventueel09:39
jordi__ja maar er zijn sowieso mensen die dat ding werkend hebben met jack09:39
AutoStaticDe Tascam US-122L wel09:40
AutoStaticMaar niet met die host controller / hub09:40
AutoStaticHeb hier pc's staan met die combi en dat werkt gewoon niet09:40
jordi__maar dan zou het in principe wel op een andere pc werken09:40
AutoStaticEn met een USB PCIe ExpressCard ook09:40
jordi__maar dat zou voor mij niks uitmaken want mijn versterker, microfoon etc staan op mijn slaapkamer09:41
jordi__dus als ik dan op een andere pc ga09:41
jordi__desktop beneden bvb09:41
jordi__dan heb ik niks om op te nemen in de buurt09:41
AutoStaticNou, wil graag weten of die Tascam het doet onder Ubuntu09:41
AutoStaticAls je 'm op een andere PC aan de gang krijgt met Jack09:42
AutoStaticDan ligt het écht aan die controller/hub combi09:42
AutoStaticEn jaag je jezelf niet onnodig op kosten door zo'n ExpressCard aan te schaffen09:42
jordi__past dat wel in een laptop?09:43
jordi__is dat een hub dan ofzo?09:43
AutoStaticHeb je een PCIe ExpressCard slot op je notebook?09:43
AutoStaticWat voor notebook heb je?09:43
jordi__hp g6209:43
AutoStaticoei, er zijn nagal wat verschillende G62's09:44
jordi__ik heb volgens mij de09:45
jordi__nog iets09:45
jordi__haha ik zal zelf eens zoeken09:45
jordi__wow dat ding is 170 goedkoper geworden binnen een jaar09:46
jordi__er staat geen stikker op mijn laptop09:47
jordi__maar er zat een 4 in09:47
jordi__dat weet ik nog09:47
jordi__en ed09:47
AutoStaticStaat onderop09:47
AutoStaticOnderop staat ergens het model/typenummer09:48
jordi__nee volgens mij niet09:48
jordi__op een sticker?09:48
jordi__dat is m geloof i09:51
AutoStaticBedankt. Geen slot voor PC cards :(09:51
AutoStaticDus je kan er geen extra kaartje inschuiven09:52
AutoStaticDus onder Ubuntu gaat de Tascam waarschijnlijk niet werken op je notebook, ja alleen playback of capture, maar niet full-duplex09:52
jordi__oh daar was die platte open ruimte voor op mijn oude laptop?09:52
jordi__dan ga ik wel op windows icm cubase09:53
AutoStaticGraag gedaan, wel jammer dat het waarschijnlijk niet gaat werken09:53
jordi__is er misschien nog hoop voor een toekomstige versie van ubuntu die dit probleem omzeilt?09:53
jordi__net als windows09:54
AutoStaticGeen idee eigenlijk, zal ik de mailwisselingen eens op na moeten slaan hierover09:54
AutoStaticStaat nl. los van Ubuntu, geluidsdrivers => ALSA09:55
AutoStatic(tenzij je FireWire gebruikt)09:55
jordi__maar wat was de naam van het onderdeel dat het probleem veroorzaakte?09:58
AutoStaticJe USB host controller: 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced09:59
AutoStaticEn de hub die tussen de controller en je USB poorten zit:  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub09:59
AutoStaticVooral die laatste is de bottleneck waarschijnlijk10:00
AutoStaticIntel heeft buggy host controllers uitgebracht van de 5 Series/3400 Series10:00
AutoStaticMaar kans is klein denk ik dat die in je notebook zit10:01
jordi__ik ga weer10:02
jordi__bedankt voor je hulp10:02
AutoStaticGraag gedaan :)10:02
jordi__houdoe ;p10:02
stephenthemartyri am having x-runs in jack audio even tho the latency is set at 1024 frames and i have the rt kernel,can anyoine help me?23:59
holsteinstephenthemartyr: what audio device?23:59
stephenthemartyralso i had to boot into a different kernel because of some graphics crash23:59

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