[04:11] <stephenthemartyr> hi i really need some help
[04:11] <naptastic> Has anyone here tried compiling the new -rt kernel? (3.0.0-rc7-rt1)
[04:12] <holstein> naptastic: im still using the old one
[04:12] <stephenthemartyr> i have a dual boot with windows xp/ubuntu studio and there was a graphics crash and i have no idea why and now when i run jackaudio and hydrogen drums it eats my cpu and has x-runs
[04:12] <holstein> the question is, how it the RT capabilities on the stock 3.0 kernel :)
[04:12] <stephenthemartyr> even though it was fine before
[04:12] <holstein> how are the *
[04:12] <ubuntudude> is their a ubuntu studio wubi?
[04:13] <holstein> ubuntudude: you can, i would suggest just doing the normal buntu
[04:13] <holstein> and adding what you want
[04:13] <holstein> open a package manager and search ubuntustudio, and read about the metapackages, or
[04:13] <holstein> !vanilla
[04:13] <naptastic> holstein, that's a good question; I've actually been using 2.6.37-bfs since Con patched it, and it performs basically as well as I could ask for...
[04:13] <holstein> naptastic: thats awesome... im ready for it :)
[04:14] <naptastic> holstein, yeah, 3.0.0+bfs is gonna be friggin' awesome.
[04:14] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: i would make sure you are booting the same kernel
[04:14] <stephenthemartyr> what dop you mean
[04:14] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: the kernel you are booting?
[04:14] <stephenthemartyr> im a novice,
[04:14] <stephenthemartyr> no im not booting
[04:14] <naptastic> holstein, but for my audio stuff, I just compile the whole audio stack myself... (JACK, lv2, ardour...)
[04:14] <holstein> maybe you updated, and the kernel order got changed
[04:14] <stephenthemartyr> i dont think haha
[04:15] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: dont think... make sure... in a terminal run
[04:15] <holstein> uname -a
[04:15] <stephenthemartyr> ok sorry
[04:16] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: you did *not* do any upgrades?
[04:16] <stephenthemartyr> Linux ubuntu 2.6.32-33-generic #70-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 7 21:09:46 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux <holstein>
[04:16] <holstein> if i were you, i would run system upgrades, and reboot
[04:16] <holstein> then, i would consider trying an RT kernel, or relaxing the JACK settings
[04:16] <stephenthemartyr> how do i do thaT?why do i need to reboot what abouit my music i have will i lose it?
[04:17] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: what music?
[04:17] <holstein> you mean files?
[04:17] <holstein> you dont lose any files from rebooting
[04:17] <stephenthemartyr> but jack was working fine before the graphics thing went down
[04:17] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: im proposing this...
[04:17] <stephenthemartyr> although only difference i see as far as graphics is the neato screen savers are not working
[04:18] <holstein> you upgraded the box... you were running an realtime kernel, and you got the latest -generic kernel which got put in front of the -RT one
[04:18] <stephenthemartyr> yes files,i apologize<holstein>
[04:18] <holstein> i think whatever graphics crash is irrelavant
[04:18] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[04:18] <holstein> irrelevant*
[04:19] <stephenthemartyr> can you explain what i should do?
[04:19] <holstein> sure...
[04:19] <holstein> if i were you, i would run the system upgrades
[04:19] <stephenthemartyr> thanks your very nice
[04:19] <holstein> then, i would try a realtime kernel
[04:19] <holstein> OR try relaxing the JACK settings
[04:20] <stephenthemartyr> and how do i that,yea but i dont understand why it was working perfect last nite and now its not
[04:20] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: thats the past
[04:20] <holstein> thats over now
[04:20] <stephenthemartyr> hahah
[04:20] <holstein> you nor i have any idea what happened
[04:20] <holstein> so move on...
[04:20] <holstein> in a terminal
[04:20] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[04:20] <holstein> then
[04:20] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:20] <holstein> should be no errors...
[04:20] <holstein> report if any
[04:21] <holstein> after that is finished, reboot, and test, then...
[04:22] <stephenthemartyr> update went normal,upgrade says "ephen@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[04:22] <stephenthemartyr> isthat good?
[04:22] <ubuntudude> if their is a Ubuntu Studio Wubi ca I have  link?
[04:23] <stephenthemartyr> what is a wubi?
[04:23] <holstein> ubuntudude: i'll look, but strongly consider the other route
[04:23] <ubuntudude> ok
so i restart my comp?
[04:24] <holstein> ubuntudude: actually, i dont see one, so thats the deal
[04:24] <ubuntudude> That stinks......
[04:24] <holstein> if you want a wubi, you install vanilla, and upgrade
[04:24] <holstein> ubuntudude: ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[04:24] <holstein> SO, you can just add what you wan
[04:24] <holstein> want*
[04:24] <ubuntudude> Link for vannilia please?
[04:25] <holstein> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[04:25] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: no need to restart
[04:26] <stephenthemartyr> how do i reboot as you said
[04:26] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: no need to reboot
[04:26] <stephenthemartyr> oh
[04:26] <stephenthemartyr> um what was the next step?
[04:26] <holstein> if i were you , i would try a differnt kernel
[04:26] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: in the terminal
[04:26] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[04:27] <stephenthemartyr> that wont mess my computer up right?
[04:27] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: feel free to research any command anyone, including me, asks you to paste in
[04:27] <holstein> sudo, is to get root privlages
[04:28] <stephenthemartyr> i thought i read warnings ABOUT  using it
[04:28] <holstein> apt-get is for package management
[04:28] <stephenthemartyr> sorry i meant no offense
[04:28] <holstein> install is just that
[04:28] <stephenthemartyr> if i was rude i apologize
[04:28] <holstein> linux-rt is the realtime kernel that *should* give you lowerlatency
[04:28] <holstein> its not trivial though
[04:28] <holstein> you dont just install it
[04:28] <holstein> you need to boot into that kernel
[04:28] <holstein> after installing it
[04:29] <stephenthemartyr> how does that happen
[04:29] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: no worries, im quite serious... dont just copy and paste, google the commands at least
[04:29] <holstein> you want to know whats going on before running the commands
[04:29] <stephenthemartyr> your right
[04:30] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: when you boot the machine, you see grub right?
[04:30] <holstein> you can choose windows or whatever?
[04:30] <holstein> several lines for ubuntu and windows right?
[04:31] <stephenthemartyr> what is the grub?
[04:32] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:32] <holstein> the boot loader
[04:32] <holstein> you should see a black screen where you choose between ubuntu or windows right?
[04:34] <holstein> anyways... when you install that package
[04:34] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-rt
[04:34] <holstein> that *should* install a realtime kernel which would be the next thing to try
[04:36] <holstein> when you reboot the box, where you hopefully see a choice between linux and windows, you'll see something about a 2.6.31-11-rt kernel
[04:36] <holstein> you want to try booting it, and see if the xruns are better, and if anything else is negatively effected
[04:37] <stephenthemartyr> ok and what was the graphics x crash thing?ever heard of that
[04:38] <holstein> sure, but i dont have enough information to go on
[04:38] <holstein> that graphics crash, and the xruns seem unrelated to me
[04:38] <holstein> i think something else happened, and it just seems that way
[04:39] <stephenthemartyr> right yes black screen
[04:40] <stephenthemartyr> its instralling now
[04:41] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: you are up to date with upgrades, which means, you have upgraded recently
[04:41] <stephenthemartyr> i googled it but i came to a forum where people were talking about stuff i had no iodea what it meant,that happens alot sadsad
[04:41] <holstein> and that upgrade likely broke something
[04:41] <holstein> could have broken your graphics, and JACK
[04:41] <stephenthemartyr> aww crap
[04:41] <stephenthemartyr> how do i find out if it did
[04:41] <holstein> i know you did
[04:42] <holstein> you didnt have any packages to update just then
[04:42] <holstein> thats means you are up to date, and just upgraded
[04:42] <stephenthemartyr> when?the update manager earlier came up and i hit install
[04:42] <holstein> that would do it
[04:43] <stephenthemartyr> why would the updatemanager let me update and break somin?
[04:43] <holstein> ?
[04:43] <holstein> its an update
[04:43] <holstein> they sometimes break things
[04:43] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[04:43] <holstein> everyone has different hardware
[04:43] <holstein> this is the same for *any* OS
[04:43] <stephenthemartyr> so i should reboot into the realtime kernel yea?
[04:43] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: i would try that
[04:44] <stephenthemartyr> will you be here for a bit incase it doesnt work?
[04:44] <holstein> should be
[04:44] <stephenthemartyr> and if it did go into "lowgraphics mode
[04:44] <stephenthemartyr> "can i fix that
[04:44] <holstein> see, i think you broke a lot with an update
[04:45] <holstein> what graphics card?
[04:45] <holstein> nvidia?
[04:45] <stephenthemartyr> dont know,what copmmand would tell me/
[04:45] <stephenthemartyr> ?
[04:45] <holstein> if you have an nvidia proprietary driver, that kernel wont work
[04:45] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: try in the GUI
[04:45] <stephenthemartyr> i dont know
[04:45] <stephenthemartyr> what kind
[04:45] <holstein> where ever you feel comfortable
[04:45] <holstein> system information?
[04:45] <holstein> something like that
[04:45] <holstein> i would run lspci in terminal...
[04:47] <stephenthemartyr> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:47] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: ah
[04:47] <stephenthemartyr> so my graphics card is
[04:47] <holstein> we dont paste that here like that, you use http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:47] <stephenthemartyr> ...
[04:48] <holstein> you'll get droped for flooding by the server
[04:48] <stephenthemartyr> sorry
[04:48] <holstein> no worries :)
[04:48] <holstein> thats intel, which is usually well supported
[04:48] <holstein> and you can try the RT kernel with it
[04:49] <stephenthemartyr> will it just go back to "normal" graphics?
[04:49] <holstein> lets do that... and assume all the trouble is with the current kernel version
[04:49] <stephenthemartyr> haha i know nothing
[04:49] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: you just mentioned that
[04:49] <holstein> i was not aware that you were in some safe graphics mode
[04:49] <holstein> it might though
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> i dont know if i am or not
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> im confused
[04:50] <holstein> IF the kernel version is the issue, and thats likely
[04:50] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: just reboot, and see if you see that kernel, and try it
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> ok ill go check,thanks sososososososo much!
[04:50] <holstein> and we
[04:50] <holstein> 'll go from there
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> thank you
[04:50] <holstein> sure
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> i owe yuou bigtime
[04:50] <holstein> nah... we havnet sorted it out yet
[04:51] <holstein> BUT we will
[04:51] <stephenthemartyr> cool ill be back
[04:51] <stephenthemartyr> thanks
[05:14] <stephenthemartyr> sadsad
[05:14] <stephenthemartyr> it said no device mounted when i picked the realtime kernel
[05:15] <holstein> it?
[05:15] <holstein> what said what?
[05:15] <stephenthemartyr> the comp went to a black screen that said that
[05:15] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: did you see another kernel?
[05:15] <stephenthemartyr> yes
[05:15] <holstein> another -generic one
[05:15] <stephenthemartyr> i picked it
[05:15] <holstein> OK... and?
[05:15] <stephenthemartyr> oh i thought i was to pick the rt one
[05:15] <stephenthemartyr> no?
[05:16] <holstein> right, but thats not the last one that worked
[05:16] <holstein> there should be another one in there that you used to use
[05:16] <holstein> is that what you are in now?
[05:16] <holstein> uname -a
[05:17] <stephenthemartyr> no regular one
[05:17] <stephenthemartyr> \same as before
[05:17] <holstein> OK
[05:17] <holstein> so when you reboot, you have windows, the RT kernel, and only the one -generic kernel?
[05:17] <holstein> no other -generic kernel option?
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> there may have been another,i i just thought i was to pick the rt
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> so pick the other generic
[05:18] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: try that real quick
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:18] <holstein> you should see the current one you are using
[05:18] <holstein> and some older one
[05:18] <holstein> and the -rt one is probably near the bottom of the list
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> so the older one i pick?
[05:18] <holstein> right
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:18] <holstein> try that, see if all is well
[05:18] <stephenthemartyr> thanks
[05:28] <holstein> ?
[05:28] <stephenthemartyr> hey man,it looks like there are 2 other generics
[05:28] <holstein> cool, are you trying one now?
[05:28] <stephenthemartyr> i think so but same thiong with xruns
[05:29] <stephenthemartyr>  2.6.32-21-generic
[05:29] <holstein> how about the graphics?
[05:29] <holstein> seem better?
[05:29] <stephenthemartyr> thats not the same right
[05:29] <stephenthemartyr> no
[05:29] <holstein> hmmm
[05:29] <stephenthemartyr> same jackaudio problem
[05:29] <stephenthemartyr> man its sad cuz ive been having problems for a few weeks,this is actually a new faster computer
[05:30] <stephenthemartyr> i used to have lucid on an old one and this one worked great
[05:30] <stephenthemartyr> now
[05:30] <holstein> this is lucid
[05:30] <holstein> right?
[05:30] <stephenthemartyr> should i try the other generic one?
[05:30] <holstein> thats the lucid kernel
[05:30] <stephenthemartyr> but not ubuntu studio before i mean
[05:30] <stephenthemartyr> oh
[05:31] <holstein> ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[05:31] <holstein> thats lucid ubuntustudio
[05:31] <holstein> 10.04
[05:31] <stephenthemartyr> can i unupdate it
[05:31] <stephenthemartyr> right im saying on my old computer
[05:31] <stephenthemartyr> any thoughts on next steps?
[05:31] <holstein> theres a history
[05:32] <holstein> if you open synatpic pacakge manager
[05:32] <holstein> go to file - history
[05:32] <holstein> there you can see what got upgraded last
[05:32] <holstein> probably something got broken
[05:33] <holstein> i use 10.04 with KXstudio ppa's added
[05:33] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[05:33] <stephenthemartyr> yea i have that as well so i could get the .9.5 version of hydrogen
[05:34] <stephenthemartyr> yea im there in synaptic
[05:34] <holstein> hydrogen wont have broken JACK though
[05:34] <stephenthemartyr> i know the last update was a bunch of studd should i list them?
[05:35] <holstein> i wont be able to tell
[05:35] <holstein> you can literally go in and step each one down
[05:35] <holstein> OR, go for the likely ones
[05:35] <holstein> if i were you, i would try live CD's and try and pinpoint what the issue is
[05:36] <stephenthemartyr> what is live cd and how do i do that
[05:36] <holstein> nevermind
[05:36] <holstein> choose something within the scope of your comfort level
[05:36] <stephenthemartyr> you mean reboot the whole thing?
[05:36] <holstein> if thats reisntalling, do that
[05:37] <stephenthemartyr> i dont have a comfort level,i want to fix it so i can record
[05:37] <holstein> if you say lucid worked great, install that
[05:37] <stephenthemartyr> i like studio better tho
[05:37] <holstein> KXstudio has a live CD
[05:37] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: ubuntu = ubuntustudio
[05:38] <stephenthemartyr> yea but ubuntustudio is different then lucid it serems
[05:38] <holstein> you would think so
[05:38] <holstein> but actually, its not
[05:38] <holstein> lucid is just the release #
[05:38] <holstein> 10.04 is code named lucid
[05:38] <stephenthemartyr> id rather not reinstall,if i downgrade the things in synaptic should i go back to the original kernel?
[05:38] <holstein> ubuntustudio 10.04 = ubuntu 10.04
[05:38] <holstein> with just a few tweaks here and there, and extra pacakges
[05:38] <holstein> but the same repositories
[05:39] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: you've already tried kernels
[05:39] <holstein> so, you can stop with that
[05:39] <holstein> its going to be a JACK update maybe
[05:39] <holstein> im not sure... i thought this was a box that had worked well for a long time
[05:39] <stephenthemartyr> yes but you said i could downgrade the items from my last upgrade
[05:39] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:40] <holstein> i would try running JACK as root for troubleshooting purposes
[05:40] <holstein> also, try something other than hydrogen
[05:40] <holstein> try any other JACK application
[05:40] <holstein> something like ardour
[05:40] <holstein> ardour has great JACK support
[05:40] <holstein> H2, not so much...
[05:40] <stephenthemartyr> ok so i should stay in whatever kerne;l iam in?
[05:41] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: yes
[05:41] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: has JACK *ever* been stable on this box?
[05:41] <stephenthemartyr> yesd
[05:41] <holstein> when? and how?
[05:41] <holstein> what verion of JACK?
[05:41] <holstein> these are the questions you'll need to answer
[05:41] <stephenthemartyr> last night and earlier today
[05:42] <stephenthemartyr> jack1
[05:42] <holstein> OK
[05:42] <stephenthemartyr> it was working fine
[05:42] <holstein> you can get JACK from that PPA i listed
[05:42] <holstein> JACK2
[05:42] <stephenthemartyr> what good will that do?
[05:42] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[05:43] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: well, it could potentially give you non-broken pacakges
[05:43] <holstein> assuming thats whats up
[05:43] <holstein> i dont think you want to move backwards
[05:43] <stephenthemartyr> oh so which rep. should i add to my software sources?
[05:43] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: i would carefully read all of http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/KXStudio:Repositories
[05:43] <holstein> maybe a few times
[05:44] <holstein> then, if you still dont know, ask me, or the folks in #opensourcemusicians
[05:44] <holstein> OR #kxstudio
[05:44] <stephenthemartyr> would a hydrogen update with a "fixed 1" break things?
[05:44] <holstein> i can tell you the ones i use
[05:44] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:44] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: sure
[05:44] <holstein> where did you get it?
[05:44] <stephenthemartyr> from my last update
[05:45] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: if i were you, i would check out how to remove and purge PPA's just in case, and i would try the kxstudio PPA's
[05:45] <stephenthemartyr> i have their music one
[05:46] <holstein> i use the main repo and the kernel one
[05:46] <stephenthemartyr> aahhh the ppa puge thing ,i tried that for like a week and got no where c`uz it made no sense
[05:46] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: purge?
[05:46] <stephenthemartyr> im not trying to be difficult
[05:47] <holstein> what made no sense?
[05:47] <stephenthemartyr> purge ppa thing
[05:47] <stephenthemartyr> how to do it
[05:47] <holstein> what thing?
[05:47] <stephenthemartyr> purge a ppa
[05:47] <stephenthemartyr> that
[05:47] <holstein> http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[05:47] <stephenthemartyr> i have to download some software called ppa purge right?
[05:48] <holstein> you should have it
[05:49] <stephenthemartyr> ok yea thats the site,ill try it from the terminal
[05:49] <stephenthemartyr> how do i ion synaptic downgrade hydrogen to the last version i had
[05:50] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: you can do that in synaptic
[05:50] <stephenthemartyr> how
[05:50] <holstein> open synaptic
[05:50] <holstein> search for hydrogen
[05:52] <holstein> you should be able to click on hydrogen and hit control+E
[05:52] <stephenthemartyr> it only shows .9.4 but it was just upgraded from .9.5.2 to .9.5.3??
[05:52] <holstein> it?
[05:52] <stephenthemartyr> where is the old one its not listed
[05:52] <stephenthemartyr> the version that i had right before the last update
[05:52] <holstein> you should see a drop down where you can choose to force an older version
[05:53] <holstein> if control+E doesnt work, you can find 'force' under the 'package' menu
[05:53] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: alright... im out
[05:53] <holstein> its going to get quiet
[05:53] <stephenthemartyr> yea i went there but it had only the two versions,yet my history
[05:53] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:54] <holstein> feel free to try #opensourcemusicians
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> this sucls
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> thanks
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> have a good one
[05:54] <holstein> try kxstudio live
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> thanks
[05:54] <holstein> maybe you would benifit from a more 'out of the box' system
[05:54] <stephenthemartyr> i dont know what that is
[05:54] <holstein> like, everything works out of the box
[05:55] <holstein> you might have tricky hardware though
[05:55] <stephenthemartyr> where would that be cuz it seems like ubuntu always breaks
[05:55] <holstein> well, your hardware support breaks*
[05:55] <holstein> ubuntu is just fine
[05:55] <holstein> its just broken for you on your hardware
[05:56] <holstein> and im not sure why
[05:56] <holstein> anyways... check out #kxstudio and kxstudio live
[05:57] <stephenthemartyr> hmmmmm
[05:57] <holstein> we
[05:57] <holstein> 're not sure you have a graphics problem
[05:57] <holstein> you had some sort of crash
[05:58] <holstein> this is an internal sound card, so you should expect stellar performance
[05:58] <holstein> anyways... im out... we'll get you sorted somehow or other... GN
[05:59] <stephenthemartyr> yea
[05:59] <stephenthemartyr> thanks dude
[08:59] <Jordi_> Can someone help me with a problem with JACK?
[09:00] <Jordi_> 10:59:31.732 Patchbay deactivated. 10:59:31.738 Statistics reset. 10:59:31.772 ALSA connection change. Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started 10:59:31.779 ALSA connection graph change.
[09:00] <AutoStatic> Hello Jordi_
[09:00] <Jordi_> hello
[09:01] <AutoStatic> Jordi_: that's a default QjackCtl message afaik
[09:02] <Jordi_> yes i've got a new message now i've connected my usb interface
[09:02] <Jordi_> but it's so long it's probably hard to read it here so I'm selecting a couple of importet lines
[09:02] <Jordi_> important*
[09:03] <Jordi_> ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode Cannot initialize driver
[09:04] <Jordi_> I installed the ALSA driver for my external soundcard (Tascam US-122L)
[09:04] <AutoStatic> Something else has your soundcard
[09:04] <AutoStatic> locked
[09:04] <Jordi_> I am in the audio group
[09:04] <AutoStatic> What are your JACK settings? Are you using QjackCtl?
[09:04] <Jordi_> yes
[09:04] <Jordi_> I can't send a screenshot here, can I?
[09:05] <AutoStatic> No, but you could patebin it
[09:05] <AutoStatic> pastebin
[09:05] <AutoStatic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[09:05] <AutoStatic> for example
[09:06] <AutoStatic> Ah that one doesn't accept images, my bad
[09:06] <Jordi_> ok, here it comes then:
[09:06] <Jordi_> realtime turned on
[09:06] <Jordi_> priority default
[09:06] <Jordi_> no memory lock
[09:06] <Jordi_> frames/period 512
[09:07] <Jordi_> unlock memory turned off as well
[09:07] <Jordi_> sample rate 44100
[09:07] <Jordi_> soft mode turned off, periods/buffer 2
[09:07] <Jordi_> monitor turned off
[09:07] <Jordi_> force 16bit turned off
[09:07] <Jordi_> h/w monitor unticked
[09:08] <Jordi_> h/w meter unchecked as well
[09:08] <Jordi_> ignore h/w unchecked
[09:08] <Jordi_> port maximum 512
[09:08] <Jordi_> verbose messages off
[09:08] <Jordi_> timeout 500 msec
[09:08] <AutoStatic> That's all well
[09:08] <Jordi_> interface hw:1 (which is my Tascam)
[09:08] <Jordi_> dither none
[09:08] <AutoStatic> Except for the periods setting, that shoudl be 3
[09:08] <Jordi_> audio duplex
[09:09] <Jordi_> frames/period = 3?
[09:09] <AutoStatic> The Tascam US122L is kinda finicky to set up
[09:09] <AutoStatic> Yup
[09:09] <AutoStatic> No periods/buffer 3
[09:09] <Jordi_> ok
[09:09] <AutoStatic> frames/periods 512 is ok
[09:10] <Jordi_> ok i'll continue
[09:10] <Jordi_> audio duplex
[09:10] <Jordi_> rest on that side = default
[09:10] <AutoStatic> Yeah, should be ok.
[09:11] <AutoStatic> What's the output of the terminal command 'cat /proc/asound/cards' (without the quotes) ?
[09:11] <Jordi_> i once did that
[09:11] <Jordi_> 0 was the internal soundcard
[09:11] <Jordi_> 1 was my tascam
[09:11] <Jordi_> but i'll try again
[09:12] <Jordi_>  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel                       HDA Intel at 0xb4400000 irq 43  1 [US122L         ]: USB US-122L - TASCAM US-122L                       TASCAM US-122L (644:800e if 0 at 002/003)
[09:12] <AutoStatic> Good, so LASA has named it US122L
[09:12] <AutoStatic> ALSA
[09:13] <AutoStatic> So in the interfaces field of QjackCtl you could also enter 'hw:US122L' manually, this way Jack will always use the correct card, just FYI ;)
[09:14] <Jordi_> ok, i've just done that
[09:14] <AutoStatic> Everything else (application wise) that could generate sound is turned off
[09:14] <AutoStatic> ?
[09:14] <Jordi_> no firefox is still on and can generate sound, but there's no sound coming from it right now
[09:14] <Jordi_> haven't started youtube or anything like that
[09:14] <AutoStatic> Ah, then could you also close FF?
[09:15] <Jordi_> yes but i'll login to this forum on my cell phone
[09:15] <AutoStatic> You're not using an IRC client?
[09:15] <Jordi_> no not that I'm aware of
[09:16] <AutoStatic> How did you login this channel? Through a webpage?
[09:16] <Jordi_> yes
[09:16] <AutoStatic> Ah ok
[09:16] <Jordi_> should it work with pidgin?
[09:17] <AutoStatic> just a sec, let's check first if something is blocking your sound
[09:18] <Jordi_> ok but it doesn't work on my phone and i have to stay on the chat I think
[09:18] <Jordi_> i can install an IRC client
[09:19] <AutoStatic> Just check first what is blocking your sound with 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/pcm'
[09:19] <AutoStatic> What is the output of that terminal command?
[09:19] <Jordi_> that's very weird
[09:19] <Jordi_> no output
[09:20] <Jordi_> does that mean everything should be fine?
[09:20] <AutoStatic> And 'lsof | grep /dev/snd' ?
[09:20] <Jordi_> pulseaudi 1658      jordi   22u      CHR              116,7      0t0       5963 /dev/snd/controlC0 pulseaudi 1658      jordi   29u      CHR              116,7      0t0       5963 /dev/snd/controlC0 ^C
[09:21] <AutoStatic> Ok, so nothing is blocking it
[09:21] <AutoStatic> thanks
[09:22] <jordi__> I'm back on an IRC client
[09:22] <AutoStatic> :)
[09:22] <AutoStatic> But FF is not blocking your soundcard
[09:23] <AutoStatic> Could you try starting JACK again?
[09:23] <jordi__> just did
[09:23] <jordi__> should i paste the output in pastebin?
[09:23] <AutoStatic> Yeah, that's ok
[09:24] <jordi__> http://pastebin.com/jc3zJ5vq
[09:24] <AutoStatic> Ah: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode
[09:25] <AutoStatic> What is the output of lspci | grep USB ?
[09:25] <jordi__> yes that's what i pasted earlier this conversation:P
[09:25] <jordi__> let's see
[09:25] <AutoStatic> Yeah, I didn't read it correctly
[09:25] <AutoStatic> Oversaw it
[09:25] <jordi__> 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
[09:25] <jordi__> 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05)
[09:25] <AutoStatic> Ouch
[09:26] <AutoStatic> This is a problematic USB controller
[09:26] <AutoStatic> You probably can't use full-duplex with it
[09:26] <AutoStatic> (so capture and playback at once)
[09:26] <jordi__> ok
[09:26] <AutoStatic> Are you on a desktop or a notebook?
[09:27] <jordi__> it does work on windows
[09:27] <jordi__> notebook
[09:27] <AutoStatic> That's probably because the Windows driver works around this issue
[09:27] <jordi__> same error lines as far as i can see
[09:28] <AutoStatic> What is the output of lsusb ?
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0644:800e TEAC Corp. TASCAM US-122L
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0bda:5801 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[09:28] <jordi__> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:28] <AutoStatic> Yeah, that Integrated Rate Matchin hub thing
[09:28] <AutoStatic> that could be the bottleneck too
[09:29] <jordi__> is it very hard to fix?
[09:29] <AutoStatic> Afaik the only fix is to get yourself a USB2 PCIe ExpressCard
[09:30] <AutoStatic> But could you try to run JACK with capture or playback only?
[09:31] <jordi__> 11:27:22.025 JACK is starting...
[09:31] <jordi__> 11:27:22.026 /usr/bin/jackd -p512 -dalsa -dhw:US122L -r44100 -p512 -n3 -P
[09:31] <jordi__> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[09:31] <jordi__> Cannot connect to server socket
[09:31] <jordi__> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[09:31] <jordi__> 11:27:22.046 JACK was started with PID=4805.
[09:31] <jordi__> no message buffer overruns
[09:31] <jordi__> no message buffer overruns
[09:31] <jordi__> jackdmp 1.9.7
[09:31] <jordi__> Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
[09:31] <jordi__> Copyright 2004-2010 Grame.
[09:31] <jordi__> jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
[09:31] <jordi__> This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
[09:31] <jordi__> under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
[09:31] <jordi__> JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 10
[09:31] <jordi__> audio_reservation_init
[09:31] <jordi__> Acquire audio card Audio1
[09:31] <jordi__> creating alsa driver ... hw:US122L|-|512|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[09:31] <jordi__> Using ALSA driver USB US-122L running on card 1 - TASCAM US-122L (644:800e if 0 at 002/003)
[09:31] <jordi__> ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode
[09:31] <jordi__> Cannot initialize driver
[09:31] <jordi__> JackServer::Open() failed with -1
[09:31] <jordi__> Failed to start server
[09:31] <jordi__> 11:27:22.184 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
[09:31] <jordi__> 11:27:24.196 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.
[09:32] <jordi__> Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
[09:32] <jordi__> Cannot connect to server socket
[09:32] <jordi__> jack server is not running or cannot be started
[09:32] <jordi__> what does the ExpressCard cost
[09:34] <AutoStatic> Less than €20,-: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/161615/sweex-2-port-usb-20-pc-card.html
[09:35] <AutoStatic> Do you have access to another USB soundcard? Just to make sure that it'sthe USB hub/host controller and not the Tascam soundcard
[09:36] <jordi__> are you dutch as well?
[09:36] <jordi__> no i don't
[09:36] <AutoStatic> Jazeker :)
[09:36] <jordi__> oh :P
[09:36] <AutoStatic> Or is it possible to try your Tascam on a different system, maybe with a LiveCD?
[09:37] <jordi__> windows
[09:37] <jordi__> 7
[09:37] <jordi__> live cd zou ik kunnen proberen
[09:37] <jordi__> als ik m nog ergens kan vinden
[09:37] <AutoStatic> He he :)
[09:37] <AutoStatic> Waar is die LiveCD als je 'm nodig hebt
[09:38] <jordi__> maar ik denk niet dat het wel met de livecd werkt
[09:38] <AutoStatic> Waar zit je ergens in NL?
[09:38] <jordi__> breda
[09:39] <AutoStatic> Bedoel andere computer
[09:39] <AutoStatic> Je zou het op een andere computer kunnen proberen
[09:39] <AutoStatic> Met een LiveCD eventueel
[09:39] <jordi__> ja maar er zijn sowieso mensen die dat ding werkend hebben met jack
[09:40] <AutoStatic> De Tascam US-122L wel
[09:40] <AutoStatic> Maar niet met die host controller / hub
[09:40] <AutoStatic> Heb hier pc's staan met die combi en dat werkt gewoon niet
[09:40] <jordi__> maar dan zou het in principe wel op een andere pc werken
[09:40] <AutoStatic> Yup
[09:40] <jordi__> ok
[09:40] <AutoStatic> En met een USB PCIe ExpressCard ook
[09:41] <jordi__> maar dat zou voor mij niks uitmaken want mijn versterker, microfoon etc staan op mijn slaapkamer
[09:41] <jordi__> dus als ik dan op een andere pc ga
[09:41] <jordi__> desktop beneden bvb
[09:41] <jordi__> dan heb ik niks om op te nemen in de buurt
[09:41] <AutoStatic> Nou, wil graag weten of die Tascam het doet onder Ubuntu
[09:42] <AutoStatic> Als je 'm op een andere PC aan de gang krijgt met Jack
[09:42] <AutoStatic> Dan ligt het écht aan die controller/hub combi
[09:42] <AutoStatic> En jaag je jezelf niet onnodig op kosten door zo'n ExpressCard aan te schaffen
[09:42] <jordi__> ja
[09:43] <jordi__> past dat wel in een laptop?
[09:43] <jordi__> is dat een hub dan ofzo?
[09:43] <jordi__> onee
[09:43] <AutoStatic> Heb je een PCIe ExpressCard slot op je notebook?
[09:43] <AutoStatic> Wat voor notebook heb je?
[09:43] <jordi__> hp g62
[09:44] <AutoStatic> oei, er zijn nagal wat verschillende G62's
[09:45] <AutoStatic> nogal
[09:45] <jordi__> ik heb volgens mij de
[09:45] <jordi__> e14
[09:45] <jordi__> nog iets
[09:45] <jordi__> haha ik zal zelf eens zoeken
[09:46] <jordi__> wow dat ding is 170 goedkoper geworden binnen een jaar
[09:47] <AutoStatic> g62-140us?
[09:47] <jordi__> nee
[09:47] <jordi__> er staat geen stikker op mijn laptop
[09:47] <jordi__> maar er zat een 4 in
[09:47] <jordi__> dat weet ik nog
[09:47] <jordi__> en ed
[09:47] <AutoStatic> Staat onderop
[09:48] <AutoStatic> Onderop staat ergens het model/typenummer
[09:48] <jordi__> nee volgens mij niet
[09:48] <jordi__> op een sticker?
[09:51] <jordi__> http://www.kieskeurig.nl/laptop/hp/g62-a14ed_ww008ea/949223/
[09:51] <jordi__> dat is m geloof i
[09:51] <jordi__> k
[09:51] <AutoStatic> Bedankt. Geen slot voor PC cards :(
[09:52] <AutoStatic> Dus je kan er geen extra kaartje inschuiven
[09:52] <AutoStatic> Dus onder Ubuntu gaat de Tascam waarschijnlijk niet werken op je notebook, ja alleen playback of capture, maar niet full-duplex
[09:52] <jordi__> oh daar was die platte open ruimte voor op mijn oude laptop?
[09:52] <AutoStatic> Ja
[09:53] <jordi__> ok
[09:53] <jordi__> dan ga ik wel op windows icm cubase
[09:53] <jordi__> bedankt!
[09:53] <AutoStatic> Graag gedaan, wel jammer dat het waarschijnlijk niet gaat werken
[09:53] <jordi__> is er misschien nog hoop voor een toekomstige versie van ubuntu die dit probleem omzeilt?
[09:54] <jordi__> net als windows
[09:54] <AutoStatic> Geen idee eigenlijk, zal ik de mailwisselingen eens op na moeten slaan hierover
[09:55] <AutoStatic> Staat nl. los van Ubuntu, geluidsdrivers => ALSA
[09:55] <AutoStatic> (tenzij je FireWire gebruikt)
[09:56] <jordi__> nee
[09:58] <jordi__> maar wat was de naam van het onderdeel dat het probleem veroorzaakte?
[09:59] <AutoStatic> Je USB host controller: 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced
[09:59] <AutoStatic> En de hub die tussen de controller en je USB poorten zit:  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[10:00] <AutoStatic> Vooral die laatste is de bottleneck waarschijnlijk
[10:00] <jordi__> ok
[10:00] <jordi__> bedankt
[10:00] <AutoStatic> Intel heeft buggy host controllers uitgebracht van de 5 Series/3400 Series
[10:01] <AutoStatic> Maar kans is klein denk ik dat die in je notebook zit
[10:02] <jordi__> ok
[10:02] <jordi__> ik ga weer
[10:02] <jordi__> bedankt voor je hulp
[10:02] <AutoStatic> Graag gedaan :)
[10:02] <jordi__> houdoe ;p
[23:59] <stephenthemartyr> i am having x-runs in jack audio even tho the latency is set at 1024 frames and i have the rt kernel,can anyoine help me?
[23:59] <holstein> stephenthemartyr: what audio device?
[23:59] <stephenthemartyr> also i had to boot into a different kernel because of some graphics crash
[23:59] <stephenthemartyr> intel
[23:59] <stephenthemartyr> ?