[00:12] <silverarrow> how safe is lubuntu?
[00:12] <silverarrow> would you dare open a link that might be malware?
[00:12] <KM0201> silverarrow: as safe as Ubuntu.
[00:13] <silverarrow> well, is that safe?
[00:13] <silverarrow> I got this link from a person I know, and something is weird
[00:13] <KM0201> silverarrow: lol... i clicked this just to see what happened (nothing did)...  http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/virus.jpg
[00:14] <KM0201> silverarrow: is it a link you can share? if you're nervous, i'll try it
[00:14] <silverarrow> lol
[00:14] <silverarrow> this one then http://venus-beauty.pl/tnx_you.htm
[00:14] <Kurdistan> silverarrow: lubuntu is secure.
[00:15] <silverarrow> I think my friend is messed with somehow, stolen email identity
[00:16] <KM0201> silverarrow: yeah, it doesn't really look right.
[00:16] <KM0201> silverarrow: thats possible.. but that doesn't mean you're infected, it means she is
[00:16] <silverarrow> it's her name but her email address is different too
[00:17] <silverarrow> I have to let her know
[00:17] <KM0201> silverarrow: there's a good example, they've probably gotten your name, out of her address book, and are spoofing her address
[00:18] <silverarrow> lets hope it's hers, and not mine
[00:20] <aikInsaan> what's the best way to run MSie in lubuntu? wine?
[00:20] <aikInsaan> and by best i mean easiest and tried and tested
[00:20] <KM0201> aikInsaan: why on earth would you do that
[00:21] <aikInsaan> as much as i hate ie there are a few web apps i run that only work on IE
[00:21] <aikInsaan> that's why
[00:22] <KM0201> aikInsaan: latest version of IE that i know of, that works on Linux, is IE 6, which is severely dated...
[00:22] <KM0201> you can run it in playonlinux
[00:23] <Unit193> That's a very old and bad/unsupported version
[00:24] <KM0201> Unit193: thus my point
[00:24] <KM0201> i'm not aware of anyway to make a current IE run in Linux (thankfully)
[00:25] <aikInsaan> hmm....thanks
[00:25] <aikInsaan> i am not too keen on IE either....gonna find a better alternative
[00:27] <Unit193> Looks like a few versions of 8 are barely OK http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=25
[00:28] <silverarrow> I have no problem with browsers, for everything except windows update or special microsoft functions
[00:28]  * phillw there are some spoofs available of ffox that allow IE versions to run, but I've not really played with them. I do still code for IE 6 exceptions in my web coding.
[00:30] <Unit193> UserAgentSwitcher?
[00:30] <phillw> Unit193: yes
[00:31] <phillw> Ffox can interperate IE6 stuff, or at least used to do, I think it has now been dropped in the recent Ffox releases.
[00:34] <phillw> aikInsaan: under the WINE system IE6 is rated as silver, which is not perfect but quite resonable. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=469
[00:35] <aikInsaan> phillw, yeah saw that...giving it a go
[00:35] <aikInsaan> lets see
[00:36] <phillw> aikInsaan: a small hint... use the rc of WINE, not the stable.
[00:36] <aikInsaan> rc?
[00:37] <Unit193> This one? ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[00:37] <phillw> there is 'stable' WINE and the Release Candidate, I've always found WINE issues to be better sourced and responsive using the RC.
[00:38] <aikInsaan> hmm...thanks
[00:39] <phillw> aikInsaan: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313 is the best place on *buntu systems to head for answers.
[00:39] <aikInsaan> thanks phillw that's very helpful...will look into em
[02:30] <philipballew> can i run lubuntu on 128 mb of ram?
[02:30] <a> hi
[02:31] <stlsaint> philipballew: lol, yes
[02:31] <stlsaint> Guest60466: hello
[02:32] <hoodie-1> i'm having issues with a java applet in chromium
[02:32] <hoodie-1> i'm running lubuntu 11.04
[02:32] <hoodie-1> i have the latest iced tea and jre
[02:32] <hoodie-1> the applet works, except most pop-ups
[02:33] <hoodie-1> i enabled pop-ups
[02:33] <hoodie-1> anyone have any ideas?
[02:33] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: what applet are you talking about?
[02:33] <hoodie-1> anyone here??
[02:34] <hoodie-1> chat.parachat.com
[02:34] <hoodie-1> the main chat window works...
[02:34] <hoodie-1> but pm's don't work
[02:35] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: that will not be due to lubuntu
[02:35] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: more than likely the browser has a issue with it
[02:36] <hoodie-1> it works in windows, i know that
[02:36] <hoodie-1> i tried firefox in lubuntu
[02:36] <hoodie-1> no luck
[02:36] <hoodie-1> and opera as well
[02:38] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: seems to work fine for me in chromium
[02:38] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: did you try chromium in lubuntu?
[02:38] <hoodie-1> that's my default
[02:38] <hoodie-1> yes
[02:40] <hoodie-1> fresh lubuntu install, updated, latest chromium, java jre, and iced tea
[02:41] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: can you give me the exact package name for the java you installed
[02:41] <hoodie-1> ya 1 sec
[02:42] <Semitones_tea> hello
[02:43] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: hello
[02:44] <Semitones_tea> i asked a question about how to bring up Grub if holding shift wasn't working
[02:44] <Semitones_tea> did anyone answer that?
[02:45] <hoodie-1> icedtea-plugin  ... and...
[02:45] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: did you edit grub to show a timeout?
[02:45] <hoodie-1> openjdk-6-jre
[02:45] <Semitones_tea> my cd drive is broken so I can't go in and change it that way
[02:45] <hoodie-1> and dependencies for both
[02:45] <Semitones_tea> and I think the computer needs an IDE cdrom drive, I don't know if those are still made
[02:47] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: i dont have that icedtea plugin nor is it in my repositories (official ubuntu ones)
[02:47] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: i do have the 6-jre installed but thats it and i can access that site just fine
[02:48] <hoodie-1> do pm's work?
[02:48] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: you can edit grub thru the live install
[02:48] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: one sec
[02:49] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: ah on second view i see the plugin
[02:49] <stlsaint> icedtea one, it must ask me to run though
[02:50] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: how are pm's performed?
[02:50] <hoodie-1> idk
[02:51] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: so how do you know they do not work?
[02:51] <Semitones_tea> stlsaint, I can't see how to do the live install though without a cd drive
[02:51] <hoodie-1> when i try to send a private message, no little window loads
[02:52] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: ok your asking how to get to grub which means you have a distro installed yes?
[02:52] <hoodie-1> i got a little pop-up window from the parachat software once, but it was just an informational message
[02:52] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: how do you try sending private messages?
[02:53] <hoodie-1> double-click on a nickname, or right click and select 'send pm' or however it's worded
[02:53] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: are you in there right now? what is your nick?
[02:53] <hoodie-1> i'll go
[02:54] <stlsaint> a pm window popped up for me just now
[02:54] <hoodie-1> what os/browser?
[02:54] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: ubuntu 10.04/chromium
[02:55] <hoodie-1> i tried to find lubuntu 10.04, but it was kinda hard
[02:55] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: honestly i dont understand the point of that room
[02:55] <hoodie-1> so i gave in and got 11.04
[02:55] <stlsaint> random non-sense is all i see
[02:55] <hoodie-1> there's a different room
[02:55] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: lubuntu 10.04 is on the main downloads page
[02:55] <hoodie-1> 'over-25' it's usually called
[02:56] <Semitones_tea> stlsaint, yes, what happens is the Lubuntu splash screen pops up for a second, then I get an "startlxde not found, falling back" type error, then nothing except a pointer.
[02:57] <Semitones_tea> stlsaint, if I try to access a virtual terminal, the monitor says "frequency out of range" and I can't switch back to f8 either
[02:57] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: that sounds like a xorg issue
[02:58] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: i must leave for now but if you join the channel #ubuntu-beginners they will be able to continue helping you
[02:58] <stlsaint> Semitones_tea: just explain what is going on
[02:58] <Semitones_tea> ok thanks
[02:58] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: i would suggest putting lubuntu 10.04 on a usb drive or a install medium and try it live with that site
[03:00] <hoodie-1> what url do u have for 10.04?
[03:02] <stlsaint> hoodie-1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#Downloading Lubuntu
[03:11] <hoodie-1> yea i think i'll give 10.04 a try
[03:45] <semitones_> ok this is the error I was getting: x session: unable to launch "startlxde" X session -- "startlxde" not found; falling back to the default session. (okay)
[03:45] <semitones_> for educational purposes, anyone have any insights to what might have been going on?
[06:12] <KevBro> I cant get  lubuntu to work from a flash drive on my computer ? it just sits loading and then quits after a while
[06:13] <KevBro> could any one give me some advice on how to get it to work ?
[06:15] <KevBro> whats the command to load the gui ?
[06:18] <KevBro> ?
[06:18] <KM0201> startx
[06:18] <KevBro> i tried that
[06:18] <KevBro> says not found
[06:19] <KM0201> welll, there's the problem
[06:19] <KevBro> what should i do ?
[06:19] <Unit193> startlubuntu
[06:19] <Unit193> Not startx in this case
[06:19] <KevBro> not ofund
[06:19] <KevBro> found*
[06:20] <Unit193> What is the current text on the screen? Do you see "busybox"?
[06:20] <KevBro> (initramfs) _
[06:21] <KevBro> there was a message earlier but i hit help to try and find the commands
[06:21] <KevBro> hold on ill restart it
[06:21] <Unit193> Yikes! Like this http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/whiztech/blog-ukxb-01.png ?
[06:22] <KevBro> it comes upwith a screen and askes me english ... and then askes if i want to try lubuntu without installing .. click it ... then loading
[06:23] <KevBro> after a while it has a big paragraph of info ... hld on ill tell you what it says
[06:26] <KevBro> it does say busy box
[06:26] <KM0201> yeah, busybox is bad.
[06:26] <KevBro> v1.17.1
[06:26] <Unit193> Do you know what CPU you have?
[06:27] <KevBro> ........ init: line 7 : can't open udevadm settle- timeout of 180 seconds reached, the event queue contains: / sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7.........................................................
[06:28] <KevBro> celeron D 3.2 ghz single core
[06:28] <Unit193> Do you have fast internet/uncapped?
[06:29] <KevBro> whatd you mean ? i have a wifi card for it
[06:29] <bioterror> can you leech as much as you can without extra payments?
[06:29] <KevBro> and someones internet :\ haha
[06:29] <KevBro> haha
[06:29] <KevBro> no payment
[06:30] <KevBro> Im trying to set up this old comp to hook up to my tv so i can watch hulu and stuff
[06:30] <KevBro> i bought it at the university for 30 bucks ... but it has no HD so i need to use a flash drive
[06:30] <KM0201> man, stealing wifi, and using it to watch hulu, bet your neighbors love you.
[06:30] <KM0201> lol
[06:30] <KevBro> I have a 8GB flash drive in there and a usb wifi dongle
[06:31] <bioterror> in finland it's loaning and our gov have free'ed it :D
[06:31] <bioterror> it's legal to "borrow" wlan
[06:31] <KM0201> lol
[06:31] <KevBro> ehhh i doubt the notice ... their wifi name is set as netgear .... i dont think they are toooooo computer savy
[06:32] <KM0201> KevBro: how fast is their connection?
[06:32] <KevBro> idk
[06:33] <KevBro> ill bet its comcast they probably have 11mb dl with 15 initial boost
[06:33] <KevBro> thats the deal i sisnged up for .. but i havent paid my bill so im using theirs
[06:33] <KevBro> something liek that
[06:37] <KevBro> why does it matter though i cant even get a gui to load ...
[06:37] <KevBro> let alone get the wifi card to work yet
[06:39] <KevBro> any suggestions ?
[06:46] <KevBro> ?
[07:24] <bignono1> am using lubuntu 11.04 on a fujitsu siemens esprimo laptop and having a problem with the touchpad ,it is working ok except when i open a folder i canr open click any icon inside,please help
[07:26] <bignono1> if i click an icon on the desktop it will open tho but icons inside a folder need to be opened by right click and choosing open or by the keyboard
[07:45] <bignono1> thanks anyway
[13:40] <bignono1> how can i put an icon on the desktop?
[13:47] <phillw> bignono1: if you right click it, you will the option 'add to desktop'
[13:47] <phillw> *will see the*
[13:53] <EagleScreen> I installed Kubuntu in one PC, it was a few slowly, then I decided to instal LXDE by installing lubuntu-desktop metapackage and all its dependencies, the result was an usable LXDE enviroment but without the Lubuntu default arkwork, it has LXDE upstream artkwork instead
[14:06] <phillw> EagleScreen: when you boot, is there the option to select kubuntu / lxde / lubuntu? From memory (and I could well be wrong), you get the option for lxde and lubuntu. Ensure you select lubuntu.
[14:07] <EagleScreen> lubuntu will apply the lubuntu arkrowk? I will check it later
[14:08] <phillw> it should do. I have seen this discussed before, but cannot fully recall what was said. No doubt one of the support guys has a better memory than me :)
[14:09] <EagleScreen> then what is Lxde one added for?
[14:09] <EagleScreen> has it any sense?
[14:09] <phillw> I think it comes in when you add lubuntu to an existing installation.
[14:10] <phillw> I'm just looking through my logs now to see if I can find the discussion on it.
[14:11] <EagleScreen> another question: how to create an applicatio launcher on the desktop?
[14:16] <phillw> application launcher is discussed in depth at the thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1492980
[14:23] <EagleScreen> so I must copy an edited .desktop file
[14:23] <EagleScreen> .
[14:26] <EagleScreen> I hope lxde implememnts an easier way to add a laucher to the desktop
[14:29] <semitones_> hey everyone
[14:30] <semitones_> I installed lubuntu yesterday, but I can't get boot to come up, all I get is boot rescue
[14:30] <semitones_> I read on ubuntuforums that sometimes old bioses can't boot kernels off of a partition bigger than 8gb
[14:31] <semitones_> so I guess I'll make a boot partition. Does anyone know how to move /boot to a new ext2 partition, and then tell the operating system that it lives there from now on?
[14:42] <phillw> semitones http://tekguru.wordpress.com/2007/09/04/howto-moving-boot-to-its-own-partition/
[14:43] <phillw> looks like that's what you're after :)
[14:44] <phillw> although we use ext4 these days (that was written pre ext4)
[14:56] <bignono1> phillw: when i right click i dont get add to desktop
[14:57] <phillw> bignono1: which icon do you want to add?
[14:57] <bignono1> i only get to change the desktop and wallpaper
[14:57] <bignono1> any icon
[14:58] <phillw> bignono1: you right click on the launch icon of the app you want to add... Use the start menu to get to the application you want, then right-click on that.
[14:58] <bignono1> when i right click on a program on the meno nothing pups out
[15:02] <phillw> try using your mouse to.. Start, Office and then highlight AbiWord. Once AbiWord is highlighted right click on it.
[15:03] <bignono1> nothing
[15:04] <phillw> which version of lubuntu are you using?
[15:04] <bignono1> 11.04
[15:04] <bignono1> and ran the updates also
[15:06] <phillw> I am at a loss, I've just fired 11.04 up and it works fine for me :/
[15:06] <bignono1> maybe my synaptics update manager needs some fixing
[15:07] <phillw> that functionality has nothing to do with update manager.
[15:07] <bignono1> idk when i was using ubuntu everything was ok
[15:08] <bignono1> and running off lubuntu cd is somhow better than the install
[15:08] <bignono1> somewhat
[15:09] <phillw> I can only guess the install did not fully work.
[15:10] <bignono1> shuoldnt i get some warnning in that case?
[15:12] <bignono1> thanks anyway phillw
[15:12] <bignono1> i'll keep trying
[15:26] <bignono1> phillw: got it now after a reboot
[15:26] <phillw> bignono1: good... I'm still very puzzled though!
[15:27] <bignono1> but one thing is missing tho , clicking on an icon will not open it , must use the keyboard after highlighting
[15:27] <bignono1> using touchpad , lapy
[15:28] <phillw> hmm, again, odd. works fine for me (also on laptop with touch-pad)
[15:28] <bignono1> where is the folder to set the touch pad ?
[15:29] <bignono1> it is not in /etc
[15:30] <bignono1> i can close a window , restore and minimize  tho
[15:30] <phillw> I don't know, I ave never had to alter any settings for my touch-pad.
[15:38] <semitones_> do you think I should report a bug in the installer?
[15:39] <semitones_> to keep people from making the same mistake i did
[15:39] <semitones_> installer should check for old bios and big hard drive combination
[16:12] <phillw> semitones does it work now?