[01:51] Hello everyone [18:06] have to break for a bit , be back later [22:50] can anyone tell me which ubuntu system fonts, if disabled, will break my system? [22:50] codepal, mm [22:50] codepal, havent looked into that,, well hold on [22:51] Ubuntu fonts,,sansm,, monospace are pretty much default right now [22:51] codepal, if you right click the desktop change desktop background and click the fonts tab [22:52] codepal, there is an application name font-manager this will list all fonts on the system and allow temporary disabling of fonts [22:52] they can also be catagorized into sets/groups and entire sets can be disabled [22:53] coz_, just installed a font-manager from google code. [22:53] I think it's slightly better, hopefully, than the built-in one. [22:53] codepal, welll is it named "font-manager" [22:53] I'm using 10.04, with it. - yup! [22:54] codepal, ok then yes it is probably the best font manager i have used on linux [22:54] codepal, with that ,, as I said, you can disable fonts on the fly [22:54] I've tried fontmatrix... [22:54] yuck [22:54] unfortunately development isn't very up-to-date on that project... [22:54] right [22:54] font-manager is the best [22:55] yeah, I managed to screw my Opera fontcache somehow with it. [22:55] and Firefox. [22:55] my opinion ,, howeve because of its options I find it very useful [22:55] right, any chance you've got a couple of font collections to share? [22:55] codepal, I have a small set of fonts I always install hold on [22:56] I'm just starting to categorise my system installed fonts, then I'll drop my own in. [22:57] codepal, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/myfonts.tar.gz [22:57] coz_, very kind of you, thanks! [22:57] let me now when you download that so I can delee it [22:57] delete [22:58] downed - thanks! [22:58] ok [22:58] codepal, once you put them into the directory you want ,, generally /usr/share/fonts/truetype , do you have the command to regenerate the font cache? [22:59] yup [22:59] cool [22:59] apparently I can also do it via font-manager... awesome! [23:00] "Reset cache and reload application" - bottom right corner. [23:00] yep :) [23:01] you can also just double click a font and it will have an "Install" button there [23:02] nice... [23:02] I've got the latest font-manager, which are you using? [23:03] let me check [23:03] 0.5.7 [23:04] cool, we're on the same page then. [23:05] codepal, I doubt there is a better manager I have tried them all,, and since I love fonts I had to find one that did just about everything I need and this one does [23:05] especially the ability to disable fonts on the fly [23:05] coz_, just outta interest, what kind of design / projects are you involved with? [23:05] yeah, that's neato [23:05] codepal, compiz cairo dock [23:06] predominately coding / theming? [23:06] or both? [23:06] codepal, right now only graphics [23:06] codepal, I do the ccsm icons,,,compiz textures,, splash screen, and 3d animated cube models,, on cairo dock mainly themes [23:08] cool coz_ !! [23:08] I'm trying to tidy up some ugly slideshows I did for a client. [23:08] codepal, excellent [23:09] I've been told they're currently late 90's style.... [23:09] :) [23:09] I'm probably a bit rusty [23:09] I'm jumping back into the game, was trained at a newspaper & commercial print business. [23:09] 1 old Mac with Photoshop and QuarkXpress on it. [23:10] and then IBM's with Photoshop & Quark. [23:10] codepal, cool,, photoshop is almost always required:) [23:10] I havent used quark express more than once that I can recall [23:10] yeh? - I was hoping gimp would replace it on my box... [23:11] codepal, well sort of yes and no likely [23:11] OS don't let me down... [23:11] codepal, most of my graphics work is done in inkscape a vector application [23:11] :D [23:11] :) [23:11] nice, latest? [23:11] other than the 3d animations mostly inkscape ,, well the latest in ubuntu repositories ,, I got tired of compiling the most recent :) [23:11] takes way too long ,, about an hour [23:12] right, fair enough. [23:12] inkscape 0.48 r9760 [23:12] that was put out in march 22 of this year [23:12] so not the actual development version [23:14] I believe the current is 0.48.1 [23:16] close enough [23:16] I was gonna try compiling GIMP 2.8 on ubuntu 10.04.... [23:16] codepal, mm not sure if it will,, I didnt realize 2,8 was available yet [23:16] 2.8 rather [23:17] codepal, if so it should have the single window mode which is very cool [23:17] dependencies might be a little difficult, libbabl is the problem. [23:17] yeah [23:17] I have 2.7 installed, and it has the single window mode.. [23:17] codepal, if on ubuntu there may be a ppa at some oint [23:17] codepal, yes it does but not premanent default [23:18] unfortunately there is no way to set single as default [23:18] 2.8 is suppose to be able to have single window mode as a default [23:18] yup [23:18] which is what I am waiting for [23:18] but as I said ,, I generally always use inkscape [23:18] which ver of ubuntu is your default? [23:18] 11.04 [23:18] ah, right [23:18] I downgraded for my wacom. [23:19] since it's serial [23:19] I was using 11.04 [23:19] oh ok because i have wacom here [23:23] nice - use it much? [23:23] I've only just got one, it's old A3 - intous2 [23:24] codepal, I do for fine work, but in inscape I use the mouse [23:24] codepal, wacom is good regardless of age :) [23:24] yeah, that's what I reckon. [23:24] I love it. [23:24] unfortunately it's not USB. [23:25] codepal, yeah that I understand [23:25] I wonder if it can be converted [23:27] I'm hoping as the wacom driver matures, and more people complain about the dropped support.... [23:27] that we'll get that serial support back. [23:27] hopefully [23:27] I'll learn my lesson, stick to LTS, and watch developments [23:28] codepal, yeah lts is generally the best way to go...unless you enjoy experimenting with some new things [23:28] I love experimenting [23:29] it's the best way to learn new things. [23:29] I'm a little bit of coder myself, just learning python @ openhatch.org [23:30] done a bit of compiling / patching / search for dependencies, so it doesn't scare me.. [23:30] coz_, nice talking to ya, and thanks for the fonts! [23:31] ok