[01:51] <renaldocreative> Hello everyone
[18:06] <coz_>  have to break for a bit , be back later
[22:50] <codepal> can anyone tell me which ubuntu system fonts, if disabled, will break my system?
[22:50] <coz_> codepal,  mm
[22:50] <coz_> codepal,  havent looked into that,, well hold on
[22:51] <coz_> Ubuntu fonts,,sansm,,  monospace are pretty much default right now
[22:51] <coz_> codepal,  if you right click the desktop   change desktop background and click the fonts tab
[22:52] <coz_> codepal,  there is an application name   font-manager    this will list all fonts on the system and allow temporary disabling of fonts
[22:52] <coz_> they can also be catagorized into sets/groups  and entire sets can be disabled
[22:53] <codepal> coz_, just installed a font-manager from google code.
[22:53] <codepal> I think it's slightly better, hopefully, than the built-in one.
[22:53] <coz_> codepal,  welll is it named   "font-manager"
[22:53] <codepal> I'm using 10.04, with it. - yup!
[22:54] <coz_> codepal,  ok then yes it is probably the best font manager i have used on linux
[22:54] <coz_> codepal,  with that ,, as I said, you can disable fonts on the fly
[22:54] <codepal> I've tried fontmatrix...
[22:54] <coz_> yuck
[22:54] <codepal> unfortunately development isn't very up-to-date on that project...
[22:54] <coz_> right
[22:54] <coz_> font-manager is the best
[22:55] <codepal> yeah, I managed to screw my Opera fontcache somehow with it.
[22:55] <codepal> and Firefox.
[22:55] <coz_> my opinion ,, howeve because of its options I find it very useful
[22:55] <codepal> right, any chance you've got a couple of font collections to share?
[22:55] <coz_> codepal,  I have a small set of fonts I always install hold on
[22:56] <codepal> I'm just starting to categorise my system installed fonts, then I'll drop my own in.
[22:57] <coz_> codepal,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/myfonts.tar.gz
[22:57] <codepal> coz_, very kind of you, thanks!
[22:57] <coz_> let me now when you download that so I can delee it
[22:57] <coz_> delete
[22:58] <codepal> downed - thanks!
[22:58] <coz_> ok
[22:58] <coz_> codepal,  once you put them into the directory you want ,, generally /usr/share/fonts/truetype   , do you have the command to regenerate the font cache?
[22:59] <codepal> yup
[22:59] <coz_> cool
[22:59] <codepal> apparently I can also do it via font-manager... awesome!
[23:00] <codepal> "Reset cache and reload application" - bottom right corner.
[23:00] <coz_> yep :)
[23:01] <coz_> you can also just double click a font and it will have an "Install" button there
[23:02] <codepal> nice...
[23:02] <codepal> I've got the latest font-manager, which are you using?
[23:03] <coz_> let me check
[23:03] <coz_> 0.5.7
[23:04] <codepal> cool, we're on the same page then.
[23:05] <coz_> codepal,  I doubt there is a better manager  I have tried them all,, and since I love fonts I had to find one that did just about everything I need and this one does
[23:05] <coz_> especially the ability to disable fonts on the fly
[23:05] <codepal> coz_, just outta interest, what kind of design / projects are you involved with?
[23:05] <codepal> yeah, that's neato
[23:05] <coz_> codepal,  compiz   cairo dock
[23:06] <codepal> predominately coding / theming?
[23:06] <codepal> or both?
[23:06] <coz_> codepal, right now only  graphics
[23:06] <coz_> codepal,  I do the ccsm icons,,,compiz textures,, splash screen, and 3d animated cube models,, on cairo dock mainly themes
[23:08] <codepal> cool coz_ !!
[23:08] <codepal> I'm trying to tidy up some ugly slideshows I did for a client.
[23:08] <coz_> codepal, excellent
[23:09] <codepal> I've been told they're currently late 90's style....
[23:09] <coz_> :)
[23:09] <codepal> I'm probably a bit rusty
[23:09] <codepal> I'm jumping back into the game, was trained at a newspaper & commercial print business.
[23:09] <codepal> 1 old Mac with Photoshop and QuarkXpress on it.
[23:10] <codepal> and then IBM's with Photoshop & Quark.
[23:10] <coz_> codepal,  cool,, photoshop is almost always required:)
[23:10] <coz_> I havent used quark express more than once that I can recall
[23:10] <codepal> yeh? - I was hoping gimp would replace it on my box...
[23:11] <coz_> codepal,  well sort of yes and no likely
[23:11] <codepal> OS don't let me down...
[23:11] <coz_> codepal,  most of my graphics work is done in inkscape  a vector application
[23:11] <codepal> :D
[23:11] <coz_> :)
[23:11] <codepal> nice, latest?
[23:11] <coz_> other than the 3d animations  mostly inkscape  ,, well the latest in ubuntu repositories ,, I got tired of compiling the most recent :)
[23:11] <coz_> takes way too long ,, about an hour
[23:12] <codepal> right, fair enough.
[23:12] <coz_> inkscape  0.48 r9760
[23:12] <coz_> that was put out in march 22 of this year
[23:12] <coz_> so not the actual development version
[23:14] <coz_> I believe the current is 0.48.1
[23:16] <codepal> close enough
[23:16] <codepal> I was gonna try compiling GIMP 2.8 on ubuntu 10.04....
[23:16] <coz_> codepal,  mm not sure if it will,, I didnt realize 2,8 was available yet
[23:16] <coz_> 2.8 rather
[23:17] <coz_> codepal,  if so it should have the single window mode which is very cool
[23:17] <codepal> dependencies might be a little difficult, libbabl is the problem.
[23:17] <coz_> yeah
[23:17] <codepal> I have 2.7 installed, and it has the single window mode..
[23:17] <coz_> codepal,  if on ubuntu there may be a ppa at some oint
[23:17] <coz_> codepal,  yes it does  but not premanent default
[23:18] <codepal> unfortunately there is no way to set single as default
[23:18] <coz_> 2.8 is suppose to be able to have single window mode as a default
[23:18] <codepal> yup
[23:18] <coz_> which is what I am waiting for
[23:18] <coz_> but as I said ,, I generally always use inkscape
[23:18] <codepal> which ver of ubuntu is your default?
[23:18] <coz_> 11.04
[23:18] <codepal> ah, right
[23:18] <codepal> I downgraded for my wacom.
[23:19] <codepal> since it's serial
[23:19] <codepal> I was using 11.04
[23:19] <coz_> oh ok because i have wacom here
[23:23] <codepal> nice - use it much?
[23:23] <codepal> I've only just got one, it's old A3 - intous2
[23:24] <coz_> codepal,  I do for fine work, but in inscape I use the mouse
[23:24] <coz_> codepal,  wacom is good regardless of age :)
[23:24] <codepal> yeah, that's what I reckon.
[23:24] <codepal> I love it.
[23:24] <codepal> unfortunately it's not USB.
[23:25] <coz_> codepal,  yeah that I understand
[23:25] <coz_> I wonder if it can be converted
[23:27] <codepal> I'm hoping as the wacom driver matures, and more people complain about the dropped support....
[23:27] <codepal> that we'll get that serial support back.
[23:27] <coz_> hopefully
[23:27] <codepal> I'll learn my lesson, stick to LTS, and watch developments
[23:28] <coz_> codepal,  yeah lts is generally the best way to go...unless you enjoy experimenting with some new things
[23:28] <codepal> I love experimenting
[23:29] <codepal> it's the best way to learn new things.
[23:29] <codepal> I'm a little bit of coder myself, just learning python @ openhatch.org
[23:30] <codepal> done a bit of compiling / patching / search for dependencies, so it doesn't scare me..
[23:30] <codepal> coz_, nice talking to ya, and thanks for the fonts!
[23:31] <coz_> ok