benonsoftware | godbyk: Hay Kevin | 05:07 |
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godbyk | benonsoftware: Hey. | 05:07 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Just got your email. I'm learning Django at the moment and I have made a dozen other websites with HTML and WordPress | 05:08 |
godbyk | cool | 05:08 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: So what do I do to get started helping with ubuntu-manual.org devel? | 05:09 |
godbyk | let me sketch up a list of things we'll need the site to do for us. then we can figure out what framework/system would be most helpful to use. then you can start on the code. | 05:10 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Thanks, at the moment I perfear the test.ubuntu-manual.org site to the main one | 05:11 |
godbyk | yeah. I think we just never got around to actually *testing* that site. it might be a good starting point. I'll have to take a look at it. | 05:11 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Ok | 05:12 |
godbyk | we'll definitely want an administration system for the site so that people other than me can post new PDFs and handle other site responsibilities. | 05:12 |
godbyk | (it's never good if I'm the only one who can do something!) | 05:13 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Haaa. WordPress is a good back end for that type of thing. We would just need to find a nice template | 05:13 |
godbyk | I'm not sure if wordpress is quite smart enough for what I'd like. | 05:14 |
godbyk | we do some slightly fancier things with language detection and the like. | 05:14 |
godbyk | maybe there are enough wordpress plugins that it would work. we'll have to see. | 05:15 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Yeah. We I thoght that would be the problem | 05:15 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: I'll just be 10 mins. I'm just getting lunch | 05:15 |
godbyk | np | 05:15 |
godbyk | I'll probably have to head to bed soonish. I have to actually get up earlier tomorrow. :-( | 05:15 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Sorry, I'm back now | 05:30 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: So at the moment what is the website built with? | 05:31 |
godbyk | the ubuntu-manual.org site is just some hand-written php code. | 05:32 |
godbyk | I *think* the test site uses Django, but I may be misremembering. | 05:32 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: So do we at one stage want to switch the website to Django? | 05:33 |
godbyk | we could go with django. | 05:33 |
godbyk | as crazy as the language is, my web host actually works a lot better with php. | 05:34 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: What are the other options at the moment? | 05:34 |
godbyk | (they don't have mod_python yet, so I think the django stuff runs a bit slower.) | 05:34 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: What is the current host. I **think** it is Dreamhost from a WhoIs | 05:34 |
godbyk | there are some php frameworks that are similar to django. see code igniter for an example. | 05:34 |
godbyk | Yeah, it's Dreamhost. | 05:35 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: How does the current site get updated/changed? eg a new release? | 05:35 |
godbyk | each new release of the manual? I hand-edit a variety of php files. It's a bit of a mess, currently. | 05:36 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: When is the next release due or when are they released? | 05:36 |
godbyk | I don't recall the date for the next release. I think it's a month or two out. | 05:37 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Ah ok. Se what can I do to help with the website dev? | 05:37 |
godbyk | Why don't you take a look at the test site. See what's there and if anything appears to be missing or non-functional. | 05:40 |
godbyk | I'll try to make some notes over the next few days of what I'd like the website to be able to do. | 05:41 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Well first on the test site I can only download the 10.04 2nd edition.But when I click download I get a 404 | 05:42 |
godbyk | right | 05:44 |
godbyk | I think the test site was last updated about a year ago. | 05:44 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Oh ok then :) | 05:44 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: But when I try to change the lang it is still English | 05:45 |
godbyk | probably no translations yet. | 05:45 |
godbyk | can you email me the list when you're finished? | 05:46 |
godbyk | I need to head to bed. | 05:46 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: Ok thanks. | 05:46 |
godbyk | thanks for your help, benonsoftware! | 05:46 |
benonsoftware | godbyk: That's fine. I love building websites :) | 05:48 |
benonsoftware | Question: Is there some where I can buy the manual as a hard copy? | 07:12 |
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