[05:07] godbyk: Hay Kevin [05:07] benonsoftware: Hey. [05:08] godbyk: Just got your email. I'm learning Django at the moment and I have made a dozen other websites with HTML and WordPress [05:08] cool [05:09] godbyk: So what do I do to get started helping with ubuntu-manual.org devel? [05:10] let me sketch up a list of things we'll need the site to do for us. then we can figure out what framework/system would be most helpful to use. then you can start on the code. [05:11] godbyk: Thanks, at the moment I perfear the test.ubuntu-manual.org site to the main one [05:11] yeah. I think we just never got around to actually *testing* that site. it might be a good starting point. I'll have to take a look at it. [05:12] godbyk: Ok [05:12] we'll definitely want an administration system for the site so that people other than me can post new PDFs and handle other site responsibilities. [05:13] (it's never good if I'm the only one who can do something!) [05:13] godbyk: Haaa. WordPress is a good back end for that type of thing. We would just need to find a nice template [05:14] I'm not sure if wordpress is quite smart enough for what I'd like. [05:14] we do some slightly fancier things with language detection and the like. [05:15] maybe there are enough wordpress plugins that it would work. we'll have to see. [05:15] godbyk: Yeah. We I thoght that would be the problem [05:15] godbyk: I'll just be 10 mins. I'm just getting lunch [05:15] np [05:15] I'll probably have to head to bed soonish. I have to actually get up earlier tomorrow. :-( [05:30] godbyk: Sorry, I'm back now [05:31] godbyk: So at the moment what is the website built with? [05:32] the ubuntu-manual.org site is just some hand-written php code. [05:32] I *think* the test site uses Django, but I may be misremembering. [05:33] godbyk: So do we at one stage want to switch the website to Django? [05:33] we could go with django. [05:34] as crazy as the language is, my web host actually works a lot better with php. [05:34] godbyk: What are the other options at the moment? [05:34] (they don't have mod_python yet, so I think the django stuff runs a bit slower.) [05:34] godbyk: What is the current host. I **think** it is Dreamhost from a WhoIs [05:34] there are some php frameworks that are similar to django. see code igniter for an example. [05:35] Yeah, it's Dreamhost. [05:35] godbyk: How does the current site get updated/changed? eg a new release? [05:36] each new release of the manual? I hand-edit a variety of php files. It's a bit of a mess, currently. [05:36] godbyk: When is the next release due or when are they released? [05:37] I don't recall the date for the next release. I think it's a month or two out. [05:37] godbyk: Ah ok. Se what can I do to help with the website dev? [05:40] Why don't you take a look at the test site. See what's there and if anything appears to be missing or non-functional. [05:41] I'll try to make some notes over the next few days of what I'd like the website to be able to do. [05:42] godbyk: Well first on the test site I can only download the 10.04 2nd edition.But when I click download I get a 404 [05:44] right [05:44] I think the test site was last updated about a year ago. [05:44] godbyk: Oh ok then :) [05:45] godbyk: But when I try to change the lang it is still English [05:45] probably no translations yet. [05:46] can you email me the list when you're finished? [05:46] I need to head to bed. [05:46] godbyk: Ok thanks. [05:46] thanks for your help, benonsoftware! [05:48] godbyk: That's fine. I love building websites :) [07:12] Question: Is there some where I can buy the manual as a hard copy?