[05:36] <tumbleweed> time for us to take part in global jam again http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1011/detail/
[08:00] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[08:00] <superfly> morning Kilos
[08:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:00]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:04] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:04] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[09:10] <Kilos> hi Kerbero 
[09:10] <Kerbero> hi Kilos
[09:21] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[09:21] <magespawn> hi kilos
[09:22] <magespawn> i see from my log i was last here a long time ago 
[09:22] <magespawn> should get in here more often
[09:22] <Kilos> lol yeah
[09:23] <magespawn> how is it going this fine saturday?
[09:23] <Kilos> all well so far ty
[09:23] <Kilos> have you gone to natty
[09:25] <magespawn> no my laptop is about 4 years old, but i have got natty running in my internet cafe.
[09:25] <Kilos> ah. is 4 years old to old for natty then?
[09:29] <magespawn> maybe i am not sure but when i load it down with programs now it struggles, so do not want to try it to have reinstall later
[09:29] <kbmonkey> all is good magespawn and yourself?
[09:29] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[09:30] <magespawn> hi kbmonkey
[09:34] <Kilos> hello kbmonkey all well?
[09:35] <kbmonkey> ja all is good. ate some rusks with koffie.
[09:35] <Kilos> lol
[09:35] <Kilos> ouma's
[09:36] <kbmonkey> yup!
[09:36] <magespawn> real ouma's or the shop kind?
[09:36]  * Kilos wonders if maaz has replaced his supply
[09:36] <Kilos> oh
[09:36] <kbmonkey> i have some chores
[09:36] <kbmonkey> the oumas from the shop
[09:36] <Kilos> i always loved the oumas buttermilk rusks
[09:36] <kbmonkey> oumas brand
[09:37] <Kilos> ja man doop n ouma doop n ouma
[09:37] <kbmonkey> the real ouma not around anymore to make those magical rusks
[09:38] <Kilos> i saw on the idiot box a while ago there was a whole Ouma's factory on the original farm where she started
[09:39] <Kilos> maybe i mixed up with Mrs Balls chutney
[09:45] <magespawn> hey any of the n900 users here today?
[09:48] <Kilos> hi jpm 
[09:48] <Kerbero> hi Kilos
[09:48] <Kerbero> :P
[09:49] <Kilos> lol hiya Kerbero 
[09:50] <superfly> magespawn: yo
[09:50] <Kilos> again
[09:50] <magespawn> howdy all
[09:50] <magespawn> superfly you have a n900?
[09:50] <superfly> magespawn: yes
[09:50] <magespawn> what os you running?
[09:54] <superfly> still maemo 5
[09:59] <jpm> hmm
[09:59] <magespawn> i see you can dual boot it with android 
[09:59] <kerbero[pc]> android can't phone
[09:59] <kerbero[pc]> and i tried meego too
[10:00] <kerbero[pc]> that can only phone
[10:00] <magespawn> brb
[10:00] <kerbero[pc]> so i'm on maego too
[10:00] <kerbero[pc]> *maemo
[10:00] <magespawn> http://www.almostlikeeverything.com/mobiles/install-android-gingerbread-nitdroid-nokia-n900/
[10:00] <magespawn> this is what i found
[10:01] <kerbero[pc]> at least everything is mostly working in maemo
[10:01] <kerbero[pc]> let me check
[10:02] <kerbero[pc]> that tutorial seems correct for dualbooting
[10:02] <kerbero[pc]> roughly how i did it too
[10:02] <magespawn> is it worth the work?
[10:02] <kerbero[pc]> as i said, android is awesome
[10:02] <kerbero[pc]> it can do everything except for making calls
[10:02] <kerbero[pc]> and taking photos
[10:03] <magespawn> i have been wanting to try it
[10:03] <magespawn> no apps for those?
[10:03] <kerbero[pc]> uhm
[10:03] <kerbero[pc]> there are a lot of apps pre installed
[10:04] <magespawn> is skype or similar available?
[10:04] <kerbero[pc]> don't think so 
[10:04] <kerbero[pc]> maybe one can install it later
[10:05] <magespawn> i see
[10:06] <kerbero[pc]> http://nitdroid.com/index.php?title=N900
[10:06] <kerbero[pc]> see that
[10:06] <magespawn> going
[10:06] <kerbero[pc]> there is way too much hardware that still does not work
[10:07] <magespawn> thats a pity
[10:07] <kerbero[pc]> nice to play with
[10:07] <kerbero[pc]> but not usable for a phone
[10:07] <magespawn> maybe i will give it ago then
[10:09] <magespawn> does the meego allow dual boot?
[10:10] <kerbero[pc]> you can dualboot maemo+meego
[10:10] <kerbero[pc]> or maemo+android
[10:10] <kerbero[pc]> but triplebooting is almost impossible
[10:10] <kerbero[pc]> because the two setups use different boot loaders
[10:11] <magespawn> going to try the maemo+android
[10:13] <magespawn> i want to have a look at android, might be getting a native device later this year.
[10:20] <magespawn> thanks for help, never quite sure if info on the net is accurate, nice to be confirmed
[11:10] <magespawn> later all have work to do
[12:05] <superfly> inetpro: http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2011/07/23/building-ubuntu-or-kubuntu-natty-package-choqok-11
[15:29]  * Kilosm just checking if you all ok
[15:29] <Kilosm> hehe
[15:30] <Kilosm> maaz cofee on
[15:30] <Maaz> Kilosm: Huh?
[15:30] <Kilosm> grrr
[15:31] <Kilosm> maaz coffee on
[15:31]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[15:35] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilosm!
[15:35] <Kilosm> lo nlsthzn
[15:36] <Kilosm> maaz ty
[15:36] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilosm
[15:43] <nlsthzn> Hey Uncle Kilosm ...
[15:45] <Kilosm> bbl
[17:44] <Barco> Anyone know what happened to the linuxlab.org project?
[17:49] <Kilos> evening all of ya
[17:50] <Barco> Hi Kilos, have you ever of the linuxlab.org project? 
[17:50] <Kilos> nope Barco 
[17:51] <Kilos> whats it about
[17:51] <Barco> I'm looking to help a rural school set up a lab. They source old PC's for terminals and provide for the use.  
[17:52] <Kilos> ah
[17:52] <Barco> I'm looking for 486-P2 for the job 
[17:53] <Barco> most companies send these to e-waste. 
[17:54] <Kilos> i have a 486 and bits and pieces of a few others
[17:54] <Kilos> and a p3 i normally use for spare here
[17:55] <Kilos> but you will need someone that knows hardware and bios to get them going
[17:56] <Barco> not much of a problem as I have it background. Just a newb in the Linux realm 
[17:57] <Kilos> ok
[17:57] <Barco> Been setting up my lab and was thinking about how usefull edubuntu would be for rural schools I've visited as a youth worker 
[17:58] <Kilos> wwhere are you?
[17:58] <Barco> I'm in Bloemfontein. you?
[17:58] <Kilos> pretoria
[17:59] <Kilos> actually try pc shops that do upgrades for people, they normally got a few old pcs when the upgrade companies
[18:00] <Barco> Hmm, quite a way off. I'm gonna do that.  
[18:00] <Kilos> must be lots in bloem
[18:01] <Barco> quite a few but the larger companies send everything to ewaste. 
[18:01] <Kilos> or do most peeps there still use the abacus
[18:01] <Kilos> lol
[18:01] <Barco> Most are a bit behind Gauteng lol 
[18:02] <Kilos> just speak to a few i am sure you will find some
[18:02] <Barco> Financially the Free State is not affluent but we got the meat ;)
[18:02] <Kilos> lol
[18:02] <Kilos> nuvolari, ping
[18:03] <Barco> I'm gonna give it a shot. 
[18:03] <Kilos> yeah its worth a try
[18:04] <Kilos> i actually got started here from a guy that stayed close by that did upgrading for people
[18:04] <Barco> Might end up buying terminals by the kg lol 
[18:04] <Kilos> he gave me a lot of bits and pieces to sort through before he dumped them
[18:04] <Kilos> lol
[18:05] <Kilos> its just hard work sorting what is still good and what not
[18:05] <Barco> wondering if recyclers will take  a buyback offer befor they melt them ;) 
[18:06] <Barco> agreed. Might be able to teach some learners to help 
[18:06] <Kilos> go for it
[18:07] <Barco> I'll search for a few guys to help locally. 
[18:09] <Kilos> maybe look in your local papers for guys offering pc repairs
[18:09] <Kilos> they mostly know each other
[18:11] <Kilos> and the smaller businesses normally have private guys do pc work for them
[18:11] <Kilos> then you can just promote ubuntu at the same time
[18:17] <Barco> sounds good, I'll do that. 
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz, where is nuvolari 
[18:22] <Maaz> Kilos: nuvolari is no Sir :-P
[18:22] <Kilos> lol
[18:23] <Kilos> Maaz, tell nuvolari Het jy gewen met pa se rekenaar seun?
[18:23] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell nuvolari on freenode
[18:23] <Kilos> nlsthzn, you dropped me
[18:23] <Kilos> heat packages didnt come and we heading for even bigger cold in next few days
[18:24] <nlsthzn> Kilos: oh... was racking my mind for a second there... it did arrive... it would have been much worst than it is now ;)
[18:24] <Kilos> hee hee hee
[18:25] <Kilos> the whole Drakensberg and Lesotho getting snow for the next few days
[18:25]  * Kilos shivers
[18:28] <nlsthzn> Nice
[18:28] <Kilos> eish those dates and camel steaks have addled your brain
[18:29] <nlsthzn> must be this flu... :'(
[18:30] <Kilos> lol
[18:31] <nlsthzn> suffering through night shifts this way is not nice at all...
[18:31] <Kilos> eish
[18:31] <Kilos> not enough action or what?
[18:35] <nlsthzn> just feeling very bad
[18:35] <Kilos> aw
[18:42] <nlsthzn> well, good luck with the cold... snugle up warm... 
[18:42] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn  i gonna crash soon too
[18:43] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:43] <nlsthzn> night :)
[18:48] <Kilos> night everyone still up. sleep tight and warm
[19:49] <nlsthzn> superfly: just read your blog... chokoq is awesome
[21:35] <superfly> nlsthzn: cool
[21:35] <superfly> it is pretty cool, just got some annoying bugs at times
[21:35] <nlsthzn> superfly: can't add a comment on it cause I don't have an account though...
[21:35] <superfly> nlsthzn: bug you can register ;-)
[21:36] <nlsthzn> but chokoq 1.1 has been out for a while... I installed it on openSUSE months ago when I got login issues... 
[21:36]  * nlsthzn has so many accounts all over the place he can't keep track anymore
[22:34] <superfly> nlsthzn: yeah, it's been out a while, but there are no updates in Ubuntu/Kubuntu for it
[22:35] <nlsthzn> superfly: well, the way you explained it on your blog it looks pretty easy to make a package for Ubuntu :)
[22:36] <superfly> It's not a proper package, but it's a convenient way to keep your system intact while compiling and installing a new version of whatever software it is that you require