[00:00] <Mandrew> will removing programs that im not using helping my computer work better and smother?
[00:00] <Colin969> Urgh
[00:00] <terry>    Mandrew no
[00:00] <Colin969> She gave me a MS Duo
[00:00] <Colin969> And not an SD..
[00:00] <StevenR> Mandrew: probably not.
[00:01] <Colin969> Aso DasEi, you reckon i can boot from my Built in Mem Card reader?
[00:01] <DasEi> Mandrew: rather disabling unneeded services, look at :
[00:01] <DasEi> !bum
[00:01] <pooltable> Linux 3.0 is here how do i know i am useing it?
[00:01] <Mandrew> thanks DasEi
[00:01] <StevenR> pooltable: uname -a
[00:02] <DasEi> pooltable: you won't until ppa/compile it, uname -a tells your version
[00:02] <Colin969> Aso DasEi, you reckon i can boot from my Built in Mem Card reader?
[00:02] <DasEi> Colin969: some work , others not, check if it's seen in bios
[00:03] <pooltable> 2.6.38.11
[00:03] <Colin969> DasEi, Cant tell, theres quite a few though. ill hope.
[00:04] <montero61> Buenas tardes tengo una consulta , nesesito cambiar el compilador de la version mia de ubuntu
[00:04] <chipmonk> nautilus network tab shows places that don't exist and not shows places that do
[00:04] <chipmonk> do i have to resintall nautilus
[00:05] <jb007_> Maybe a silly question, but where do I register my nick?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> !register | jb007_
[00:06] <rww> !es | montero61
[00:06] <jb007_> Thanks, I gave I type "/msg nickserv register <password> <email>" in this textbox here?
[00:07] <DasEi> jb007_: yes, and comprehensive help is in #freenode, see above given link
[00:07] <terry> jb007_: You can, but you really need to go to the status window to see what your doing.
[00:07] <WolfDogDesigns> Hey guys. Trying to install Ubuntu alongside Win7 on a new PC. getting the old "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system." error when trying to boot from cd. Tried 2 different ISO downloads on 2 diff CDs
[00:07] <chipmonk> Dasei what channel for nautilus help?
[00:08] <terry> WolfDogDesigns: What CD burning software did you use?
[00:08] <DasEi> chipmonk: can ask here
[00:08] <WolfDogDesigns> erm, Windows Disk Image Burner. .. all I have access to
[00:08] <chipmonk> did
[00:08] <chipmonk> no ans
[00:09] <chipmonk> nautilus network tab shows places that don't exist and not shows places that do
[00:09] <chipmonk> do i have to resintall nautilus
[00:09] <WolfDogDesigns> terry, something else I should use?
[00:09] <terry> WolfDogDesigns:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[00:09] <Jordan_U> WolfDogDesigns: It sounds like the kernel has problems with your particular CDROM drive. Try installing via a flash drive.
[00:10] <iLogic> anyone knows if ubuntu has a pdf reader that supports highlighting?
[00:10] <W43372> I'm trying to recover a deleted folder of pictures and I'm having an issue with scalpel recovering it.
[00:10] <WolfDogDesigns> Jordan_U, dont have one :/
[00:11] <WolfDogDesigns> terry, it suggests windows image burner should be fine, ill give it a go with the alternative though
[00:11] <YankDownUnder> WolfDogDesigns, Use a CD/DVD cleaner in the drive, try again. If anything, burn a new copy of the ISO at a slower speed to make sure it's done correctly.
[00:12] <Aylin_CD> r
[00:12] <Jordan_U> WolfDogDesigns: I doubt that using another burning program will make any difference.
[00:12] <chipmonk> good suggestion yank always burn at slowest speed
[00:13] <WolfDogDesigns> im dling InfraRecorder which should let me set burn speed. Win Image Burner doesnt let you adjust anything
[00:13] <YankDownUnder> Jordan_U, SLOWER SPEED...as well, every month you should clean your CD/DVD drive...dust IS the enemy...
[00:13] <Jordan_U> WolfDogDesigns: The minimal install CD should work. It needs to grab everything from the internet though.
[00:13] <YankDownUnder> WolfDogDesigns, XP CD Burner. Free, always works, small, and just always works. ;)
[00:14] <Jordan_U> WolfDogDesigns: Can you be connected to the internet via ethernet while installing?
[00:14] <WolfDogDesigns> yeah, its got ethernet connection
[00:15] <Jordan_U> WolfDogDesigns: Then the minimal install CD *will* work for you.
[00:15] <W43372> Trying to recover a deleted folder. What do?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !minimal | WolfDogDesigns
[00:15] <Jordan_U> !undelete | W43372
[00:19] <aikInsaan> what's the best way to run MSie in ubuntu? wine?
[00:20] <terry> aikInsaan: What do you need IE for?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> aikInsaan: Wine can only run up to IE6 (and IE7's rendering engine within IE6's chrome).
[00:20] <aikInsaan> by best i mean tried and tested
[00:20] <chipmonk> thx for the help
[00:21] <aikInsaan> as much as i hate ie...there are a few web apps that i use which only run on ie
[00:21] <terry> aikInsaan: Best to run IE under MS Windows
[00:21] <Jordan_U> aikInsaan: Have you tried changing user agent?
[00:21] <aikInsaan> i can change user agent for chromium???
[00:21] <cyperbg> guys I need help setting SSH with public/private keys - Ive followed different turorials and I always get Server refused our key
[00:21] <cyperbg> please help
[00:21] <terry> aikInsaan: Try firefox
[00:22] <xiamx> I have a partition created for /home, I want to move all /home files mounted on / to the enw partition, will cp -a work? Do it need to run checksum?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | xiamx
[00:22] <terry> xiamx: cp -ar will work
[00:23] <xiamx> Jordan_U, terry, thanks
[00:24] <terry> xiamx: You should rename the other one /old-home and then create the fstab entry for separate /home and reboot to see if everytihng is ok before deleting /old-home
[00:24] <uw_> hi is anyoen on here familar with netboot?
[00:24] <terry> xiamx: But read the info Jordan_U sent you for more details.
[00:25] <xiamx> terry, alright
[00:25] <pooltable> how do i look at the redecuation on the ubuntu software center?
[00:25] <uw_> or network installs
[00:26] <pooltable> got it
[00:26] <WolfDogDesigns> Right. Im gonna try the new burn. Thanks a lot for the help guys
[00:28] <cyperbg> :)
[00:31] <stercor> Where does Ubuntu set the final PATH variable?  The one that the user uses.
[00:31] <pooltable> where to find chat about amd fx?
[00:31] <Jordan_U> pooltable: "redecuation"?
[00:32] <pooltable> jordan u nm i got it
[00:32] <stercor> pooltable: #hardware, perhaps?
[00:33] <terry> stercor: Are you wanting to add to your PATH?
[00:33] <stercor> terry: yes.
[00:34] <pooltable> thanks stercor
[00:34] <stercor> pooltable: That assumes that AMD is a chip and fx is a part of that chip.
[00:34] <terry> PATH="$PATH:/home/stercor/bin
[00:34] <terry> PATH="$PATH:/home/stercor/bin"
[00:34] <pooltable> ok what about fluxbox how to comfig it ?
[00:35] <stercor> terry: I don't want to do that every time I login/boot.  There must be some place where Ubuntu sets it.
[00:35] <terry> stercor: And to see what it now includes:  $PATH
[00:36] <terry> stercor: You don't have to do it every time  you boot.  Just do it once.
[00:36] <stercor> terry: I have to do it with each new window I open...
[00:36] <DeviceZer0> any anyone tell me what the default theme is for unity? I moved my old home folder over and now unity looks all weird and trying to use my old homes theme and settings
[00:37] <terry> stercor: What are you talking about?
[00:37] <terry> stercor: You need to tell us what it is exactly you are wanting to do.
[00:38] <stercor> terry: I need to have the system put an extra directory (actually, two) into the PATH variable on boot-up or login.
[00:38] <pooltable> stercor the next new FX 8 core
[00:38]  * stercor know nothing of hardware, only software.
[00:39] <terry> stercor: And this is where you have executable files?
[00:39] <stercor> terry: Yes.
[00:39] <stercor> terry: rc.local?
[00:39] <terry> stercor: Why not just put them in /home/stercor/bin   (All of them.)
[00:40] <stercor> terry: The executables?
[00:40] <terry> stercor: Are you sure it is $PATH options you are after?
[00:40] <stercor> terry: Yes
[00:41] <terry> stercor: Well then yes, you set the $PATH for executables.  That is all it is for.
[00:41] <terry> stercor: So why don't you tell us what it is you really want to do.
[00:43] <stercor> terry: I want the system to provide the correct PATH to get to my executables by prepending/postpending the directories on to the PATH variable.  I don't want to do it manually every time I want to use an executable.  That is madness.  Surely Ubuntu has a place to set the PATH variable that the user (any user) uses.
[00:44] <edbian> stercor: Put your executables in the correct place
[00:44] <terry> stercor: As I just told you;  You do NOT have to do it every time you boot.  Ok?
[00:44] <edbian> or at least symlink them iectplace
[00:44] <stercor> Oh, forget it.  I'll find it myself.  All of the solutions are "Band-Aids" that don't address the problem.
[00:44] <iLogic> the fact that linux has no software capable of making highlights in pdfs makes me sad :(
[00:44] <YankDownUnder> stercor, /etc/profile
[00:45] <stercor> YankDownUnder: Now we're getting somewhere!
[00:45] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, Research before you complain?
[00:45] <iLogic> YankDownUnder: I did, actually..
[00:45] <YankDownUnder> stercor, Just make sure you make a backup of the /etc/profile before you hose the entire system.
[00:45] <terry> as edbian suggest, symlinks are good.  Just place your executables in ~/bin/  and symlink them to /usr/bin or where ever else you want, (that's already in your path).
[00:46] <stercor> YankDownUnder: Good advice!
[00:46] <iLogic> YankDownUnder: only acrobat reader, and if was previously enabled by acrobat pro which costs a billion bucks
[00:46] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, There are always alternatives.
[00:47] <maum> hello
[00:47] <iLogic> YankDownUnder: yep, very lame ones.. :(
[00:47] <maum> how can I calibrate touch screen?
[00:47] <maum> on ubuntu 11.04
[00:47] <terry> stercor: They are not band-aids.  It is the way it's done.  You just don't understand the system.
[00:48] <terry> stercor: Have you looked at what you have in your path now?
[00:48] <stercor> terry: yes
[00:48] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, Ya know, there is something called "Crossover Office" by Codeweavers (www.codeweavers.com) that will allow you to run MS programs in a basically native environment (meaning on linux)
[00:48] <terry> stercor: Ok, well what do you need to add to it?
[00:49] <terry> stercor: And what do you have against using symlinks?
[00:49] <stercor> terry: And I know how to set PATH=blah:$PATH or PATH=$PATH:blah
[00:49] <terry> stercor: Then what is the problem?
[00:49] <edbian> stercor: Changing the path variable is not the correct solution.
[00:50] <pooltable> what is the commane to find out what video card i have?
[00:50] <terry> stercor: It is a very simple orderly system.  What else do you need?
[00:50] <pooltable> command
[00:50] <bazhang> pooltable, lspci
[00:51] <edbian> pooltable: sudo lspci -k    (I like the -k to tell me what drivers are being used)
[00:51] <iLogic> YankDownUnder: yeah.. seems like I'm stuck with pdf x-change in wine, but it's very lame not having one single native app that is able to do such easy task
[00:51] <iLogic> YankDownUnder: if not easy, popular..
[00:51] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, Then bitch at Adobe for locking down their legalities in such a way as to keep their stuff extremely proprietary.
[00:52] <pooltable> bazhang thanks
[00:52] <terry> stercor: Just mkdir ~/bin  and put your new executables there.  From that point, you have the option of adding it to your $PATH or symlink to some dir that is already in your path. It is as simple as that.
[00:52] <edbian> pooltable: :(
[00:52] <pooltable> edbian yes?
[00:52] <edbian> pooltable: I helped too :(
[00:53] <pooltable> edbian way :(??
[00:53]  * edbian looks sheepish
[00:53] <pooltable> sorry edbian thanks
[00:53] <edbian> pooltable: it's ok
[00:53] <pooltable> sorry edbian yes your is more info thanks
[00:54] <edbian> pooltable: Yay! \o/
[00:54] <Infernet> lol
[00:56] <OogyPoogy> Hi all. Any recommendations on the best way to share an external Harddrive plugged into my Ubuntu box over a home network (other computers running Win7)?
[00:56] <terry> OogyPoogy: samba
[00:57] <edbian> OogyPoogy: samba is pretty much your only option.  It is hard to configure though
[00:57] <OogyPoogy> Samba, eh?
[00:57] <terry> OogyPoogy: nfs is great, but is for Linux, (not MS Windows)
[00:57] <OogyPoogy> I installed Samba from the Software center, but it doesn't seem to have registered an icon in my menu system
[00:57] <YankDownUnder> Um...there ARE NFS clients for MS Windows...(not that they're good, but they do exist)
[00:57] <terry> OogyPoogy: You have to configure it.,
[00:58] <OogyPoogy> terry: if it changes anything, the external harddrive is formatted as fat32
[00:58] <terry> !samba | OogyPoogy
[00:58] <edbian> OogyPoogy: You probably installed the client not the server
[00:58] <terry> OogyPoogy: fat32 is fine, doens't matter.
[00:58] <OogyPoogy> ebian: ahhhh
[00:59] <edbian> OogyPoogy: ahh indeed
[00:59] <OogyPoogy> Ohh, its in the Admin menu
[00:59] <terry> OogyPoogy: sudo apt-get install samba
[00:59] <edbian> also that
[01:01] <edbian> nobody needs help?!
[01:01] <edbian> How about some wifi cards!
[01:01] <OogyPoogy> terry: I think I have both server and client installed. There is a GUI that pops up for "Server Configuration"
[01:01] <terry> edbian: I've got mine.
[01:01] <OogyPoogy> I guess its as "simple" as adding a Share
[01:01] <OogyPoogy> ?
[01:01] <OogyPoogy> ;)
[01:01] <edbian> terry: :)
[01:02] <edbian> OogyPoogy: ha, yeah right.  Are you on the right workgroup?  Is the samba server running right now?  What user's can access the share you set?
[01:03] <OogyPoogy> edbian: haha :) Do I not define the workgroup when making the share? I've set up a user/pass for logging in. How can I check to see if the Samba server is running?
[01:03] <edbian> OogyPoogy: ps -e | grep samba    will tell if it's running.
[01:03] <OogyPoogy> edbian: thanks for that!
[01:03] <edbian> OogyPoogy: The workgroup (afaik) is in the config file in /etc/
[01:04] <edbian> OogyPoogy: I have never been clear about the users.  Do the windows user names get sent to the samba server or does the server just see 'samba' the local linux user trying to access stuff?  IDK
[01:04] <YankDownUnder> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:04] <OogyPoogy> edbian: I typed that command and literally nothing happened. just popped up to the next prompt
[01:04] <edbian> OogyPoogy: That means it isn't running.
[01:05] <edbian> OogyPoogy: ps -e lists all running processes   | grep filters stuff  We filtered for the word 'samba'
[01:05] <OogyPoogy> edbian: ahh.... hehe. I guess /.samba?
[01:05] <edbian> OogyPoogy: Get it?
[01:05] <OogyPoogy> edbian: Oh I see. I do
[01:05] <YankDownUnder> "smbd" is what you want to look for.
[01:05] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, as the process listed or is that the filename?
[01:05] <edbian> OogyPoogy: ~/.samba is the per user config     There is a system config file (for the server) in /etc somehwere
[01:06] <edbian> OogyPoogy: grepping for the right filter might help
[01:06] <OogyPoogy> oh, i see.
[01:06] <edbian> OogyPoogy: That's the process
[01:06] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, To restart samba, /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[01:06] <YankDownUnder> When looking for it, try: ps - Ae | grep smbd
[01:06] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, thanks! Very much appreciate the help here!
[01:07] <YankDownUnder> ;)
[01:09] <OogyPoogy> Is it possible to accidentally have duplicate processes running? I have smbd listed twice: http://pastebin.com/qtSA5zq7
[01:09] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, That's cool. Don't worry. Be happy.
[01:09] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, Mr. McFerrin!
[01:09] <edbian> OogyPoogy: It likely doesn't matter.  Especially if you plan to reboot
[01:10] <OogyPoogy> since you guys are especially helpful, I'll take the opportunity to ask: is there an equivalent Linux/Ubuntu program that tweaks startup settings and cleans unused files like CCleaner for WIndows?
[01:11] <OogyPoogy> Or is that not even a necessity by virtue of the Linux architecture?
[01:11] <YankDownUnder> It's not a worry in linux => unless you specifically don't want certain services or programs from starting...otherwise, it's not necessary.
[01:11] <edbian> OogyPoogy: They're unnecessary.
[01:11] <iLogic> my netbook has no page up or down keys, anyone knows if there is a way to use function + up and down or something instead?
[01:11] <OogyPoogy> As an off-topic, has anyone seen that crazy 16-year old girl who married that 53 your-old actor? She looks like she's on *major* drugs during her interview
[01:12] <OogyPoogy> iLogic, perhaps it can be mapped?
[01:12] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, I'd look through the keymappings and keyboard layouts => as well, dig through the Ubuntu forums as I'm quite certain someone with your same machine has ran across the same issue.
[01:12] <iLogic> no success so far..
[01:12] <th0r> iLogic: you can use xev to determine keycodes and xmodmap to fix the issue. Google xmodmap for more details
[01:13] <YankDownUnder> iLogic, ...patience is a virtue.
[01:13] <JayB> How do I install the cure font from artwiz to be systemwide? ubuntu 11.04
[01:13] <Carpe|Diem> can somebody tell me whats the latest stable kernel in Ubuntu?
[01:13] <Snooffy> !kernel
[01:14] <OogyPoogy> When Ubuntu gets upgraded and Gnome 2 is removed, do you think there will be a way to reinstall it? I really can't get used to Unity for some reason...
[01:14] <edbian> OogyPoogy: I'm not sure you'll be able to get gnome2 in the future.  gnome3 definitely.  What you might want to look at is xfce
[01:14] <th0r> OogyPoogy: you might want to consider debian at that point
[01:14] <Carpe|Diem> Snooffy: i don't see a version on there?
[01:15] <Snooffy> yeah sorry:D
[01:15]  * edbian uses Debian
[01:15] <Snooffy> !stable
[01:15] <OogyPoogy> th0r, is Debian as user-friendly as Ubuntu?
[01:15] <edbian> That's what he says for stable?
[01:15] <edbian> OogyPoogy: no
[01:16] <OogyPoogy> edbian: is there a way to emulate the menu dropdown on Gnome 3?
[01:16] <Snooffy> it must be there under something..
[01:16] <edbian> OogyPoogy: I don't know what feature you're talking about.
[01:16] <Carpe|Diem> somebody give me the output of uname -a on an updates ubuntu system
[01:16] <edbian> Snooffy: hahaha
[01:16] <OogyPoogy> edbian: so, I'm effectively being booted of Ubuntu if I don't like Unity? Wow.
[01:16] <Carpe|Diem> updated*
[01:16] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, Gnome3. Egads. There *is* a tweak tool that can make Gnome3 nearly like Gnome2...
[01:16] <edbian> OogyPoogy: what? no!  You can use gnome3, kde, xfce, or like a dozen others
[01:16] <edbian> egads
[01:16] <OogyPoogy> edbian: the application dropdown list
[01:17] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, how come everyone hates the traditional menu so much? :)
[01:17] <Carpe|Diem> uname -a?
[01:17] <Carpe|Diem> anyone?
[01:17] <edbian> OogyPoogy: This: http://www.tuxmachines.org/images/fedora15_gnome3-activities-applications.jpg   ??
[01:18] <Snooffy> 2.6.32-33
[01:18] <szal> Carpe|Diem: define 'updated ubuntu system'
[01:18] <OogyPoogy> Unity looks like an iPhone Os, but there is no touchscreen!
[01:18] <Snooffy> lucid though
[01:18] <Carpe|Diem> szal: the latest ubuntu release fully updates to the latest kernel
[01:18] <Carpe|Diem> szal: i just want to know the newest ubutnu kernel number
[01:18] <Carpe|Diem> zz
[01:18] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, They don't hate it, they "decided via corporate thought" that it was no longer important - that goes for the Unity team and the Gnome3 team. They're trying to emulate the "smartphone" and "netbook" mentality.
[01:18] <szal> Linux zalle 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 15:07:17 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:18] <szal> @ Carpe|Diem
[01:18] <Carpe|Diem> kk
[01:19] <Carpe|Diem> hmm
[01:19] <Snooffy> Carpe|Diem: what about this? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[01:19] <edbian> OogyPoogy: So does gnome3 imo
[01:19] <szal> Natty
[01:19] <OogyPoogy> edbian: what you posted looks like an iPhone Os too!
[01:19] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, but I don't get it. What if you don't use a touchscreen device?
[01:20] <Carpe|Diem> ty
[01:20] <edbian> OogyPoogy: I posted gnome3
[01:20] <OogyPoogy> edbian: so even Gnome is losing the listed menus? Oh no...
[01:20] <edbian> OogyPoogy: gnome3 is very new
[01:20] <edbian> OogyPoogy: again, look at xfce
[01:21] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, Well, the apparent corporate paradigm is more important than what YOU think. Apparently.
[01:21] <OogyPoogy> God, why can't they at least keep it like they do in Ubuntu - I use Ubuntu "classic" interface.
[01:21] <OogyPoogy> I've tried XFCE, but for some reason, the rendering isn't smooth like the stock Ubuntu setup.
[01:21] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how can I take a screenshot in firefox of a very long page in one time
[01:21] <OogyPoogy> it looks like windows 3.1 to me.
[01:21] <sw0rdfish> get it? like no need to take half then scroll down take another ss
[01:22] <rww> Much as I dislike the various GNOME user interfaces, can we bring the channel back to Ubuntu technical support please?
[01:22] <YankDownUnder> sw0rdfish, Why don't you just "Print to file" => choose PDF as the output? Works great, ya know...
[01:22] <OogyPoogy> rww: Sorry
[01:22] <apollosix> KDE is worth another look. But in unity hide the side bar and run a dock. I know it's a bit mac but the cairo dock kills unity dock.
[01:22] <edbian> sw0rdfish: I get what you're asking.  Tough question.
[01:22] <sw0rdfish> YankDownUnder, print to file? you say... lol let me try and find that :)
[01:22] <edbian> sw0rdfish: Try saving the page and converting it somehow.  That's my best guess
[01:22] <infobit> ya its a good one as YankDownUnder said save it as Pdf serch on google for help
[01:22] <th0r> OogyPoogy: I would love to compare my xfce/debian screenshots with your gnome/ubuntu <smile>
[01:23] <edbian> sw0rdfish: Print the file is a great idea
[01:23] <sw0rdfish> edbian someone just told me there's a plugin for firefox for that :D
[01:23] <edbian> sw0rdfish: there ya go!
[01:23] <OogyPoogy> th0r: could you show me? I really want to know if there something wrong with XFCE as I installed it...
[01:23] <OogyPoogy> rww: this is technically ubuntu technical support! :)
[01:23] <Quantum_Ion> Hey I'm Barack Obama
[01:24] <apollosix> Fuck Obama
[01:24] <rww> !politics
[01:24] <Snooffy> lol
[01:24] <sw0rdfish> Quantum_Ion, hello sir mr president
[01:24] <Quantum_Ion> lol
[01:25] <Quantum_Ion> I thought I would just interject a little humor
[01:25] <th0r> OogyPoogy: pastebin won't handle pix, I think
[01:25] <YankDownUnder> Americans don't understand real humour.
[01:25] <apollosix> I have a eee pc and trying to run ubuntu on it it won't shut down. Just freezes on shutdown command?
[01:25] <OogyPoogy> th0r: imgur.com?
[01:26] <edbian> th0r: OogyPoogy imageshack.us for pics
[01:26] <infobit> YankDownUnder, this is not a place for humour
[01:26] <edbian> apollosix: What if you sudo shutdown now
[01:26] <YankDownUnder> infobit, HOW WELL I KNOW.
[01:26] <sw0rdfish> edbian, my friend found me this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/screengrab/
[01:27] <sw0rdfish> edbian, so if you guys wanna add it to ubuttu or something feel free to :)
[01:27] <edbian> sw0rdfish: :)
[01:27] <apollosix> you people aren't very nice.....bye
[01:27]  * edbian does not have the authority to edit the bot
[01:27] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, You've been down under too long. Not all of us are thick :)
[01:27] <edbian> apollosix: bye
[01:27] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, Spot on.
[01:28] <OogyPoogy> edbian: I *just* realized that edbian was an anagram. Maybe I am thick after all....
[01:28] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, ;)
[01:28] <th0r> OogyPoogy: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/684/29pm.png/
[01:29] <edbian> OogyPoogy: It's actually just me messing the letters up.  An anagram can be read upside and upside right.
[01:29] <YankDownUnder> 1/2 anagram...
[01:30] <OogyPoogy> edbian: oh, I thought an anagram was a new word resulting from rearrangement, not symmetry. See, I am dumb
[01:30] <OogyPoogy> th0r: That actually looks quite nice
[01:30] <runicfox> OogyPoogy, a palindrome is symmetry.  an anagram is rearrangement.
[01:30] <OogyPoogy> There was definitely a rendering problem on my end then.
[01:30] <OogyPoogy> runicfox, so then I was right!
[01:31] <runicfox> yep
[01:31] <OogyPoogy> edbian: stop messing me up! :)
[01:31] <edbian> OogyPoogy: he themed the heck out of it.  It does not look like that by default
[01:31] <OogyPoogy> th0r: How long did it take you to theme it up all nice like that?
[01:32] <th0r> OogyPoogy: I had to untar two theme packages and set up the panels the way I wanted...maybe half an hour
[01:32] <YankDownUnder> I'd love to post a screenshot, but hey, it's like 3840x1080 .... ;)
[01:32] <OogyPoogy> Yank: DO IT!
[01:33] <OogyPoogy> th0r: Oh that's not too bad....does XFCE come on the Live CD?
[01:33] <edbian> OogyPoogy: It comes on the xbuntu live cd
[01:33] <OogyPoogy> I cool - so I'll grab that.
[01:34] <OogyPoogy> Anyone use an NAS with Ubuntu?
[01:34] <th0r> OogyPoogy: you can just load xfce to your present ubuntu install...no need to get a new cd
[01:34] <edbian> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/screenshothzq.png/   ignore the rage comic
[01:35] <OogyPoogy> th0r: How would I do this? Via Synaptic?
[01:35] <tripelb> http://grigio.org/textmate_gedit_few_steps  is this a good thing to do. I wanted something like "TextEdit" on the Mac.
[01:36] <OogyPoogy> edbian: you a redditor? :)
[01:36] <edbian> OogyPoogy: No, stumble
[01:36] <th0r> OogyPoogy: yes, just load xfce4 and thunar. there are other parts to xfce (xfburn, ristretto, etc) but those two will ge tyou started
[01:36] <edbian> tripelb: what do you mean by 'good' ?
[01:36] <OogyPoogy> edbian: what DE are you using?
[01:36] <aikInsaan> is vmware-server available in the partners archive under  a different name by any chance?
[01:36] <edbian> OogyPoogy: http://imageshack.us/f/841/screenshot1gj.png/   no rage comic
[01:36] <OogyPoogy> th0r: Thanks, I'll install now.
[01:37] <th0r> OogyPoogy: after installing xfce4, log out and at the login screen Session menu choose xfce
[01:37] <OogyPoogy> th0r, will do.
[01:38] <tripelb> edbian, I was looking for trouble. Not. I wanted to know if anyone has some experience with this. I only want safe stuff. But some more functionality (font styles, sizes - pasting in a pic) would be welcome.
[01:38] <edbian> tripelb: I've never used it.  Since it doesn't come from the repos it's a good idea you're asking around though.
[01:38] <mystiqueba> hey guys, I forgot my nickserv password, how do I restore it?
[01:38] <blackhawk> hi,anyone know of an app that could monitor the temps of the cpu,hdd..and so on
[01:39] <rww> !lm-sensors | blackhawk
[01:39] <rww> mystiqueba: ask #freenode
[01:39] <mystiqueba> rww, thanks
[01:39] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, edbian Here y'all go: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/50
[01:39] <blackhawk> thanks :) that was fast :)
[01:39] <aikInsaan> anyone running vmware on natty?
[01:40] <edbian> YankDownUnder: interesting.  A 404 error
[01:40] <OogyPoogy> edbian: not seeing the second link
[01:40] <OogyPoogy> Oh, god damn it. The wife is calling from downstairs.
[01:40] <OogyPoogy> Why can't i just get some alone time?
[01:40] <tripelb> mystiqueba, /join #nickserv led me to #freenode so I think that's the place to ask.
[01:40] <edbian> YankDownUnder: very meta
[01:40] <OogyPoogy> Later everyone, and thank for the help.
[01:40] <edbian> OogyPoogy: pardon?
[01:41] <\bMike\b> I just accidentally created a new partition table on a HDD I was using. Can I recover or recreate it from the filesystem data that's still on the disk?
[01:41] <OogyPoogy> oh, i'm still here...i thought my connection died
[01:41] <cyperbg> I still can't make a script run at after Reboot
[01:41] <cyperbg> please help
[01:41] <\bMike\b> cyperbg: which script
[01:41] <cyperbg> well it's a custom script
[01:41] <OogyPoogy> YankDownUnder, 404 error here
[01:42] <\bMike\b> cyperbg: what language?
[01:42] <cyperbg> whicj when executed from Terminal works
[01:42] <OogyPoogy> edbian: did my message get cut off?
[01:42] <cyperbg> \bMike\b, I'm not sure but it contain If else clauses
[01:42] <edbian> OogyPoogy: You didn't get my second link?
[01:42] <cyperbg> it's called startmining.sh
[01:42] <OogyPoogy> edbian: no, I clicked, but it wouldn't open. I think it was because me connection died. Let me try again
[01:42] <\bMike\b> cyperbg: that's a shell script (because of the .sh, not because of if...else - nearly every language has if...else)
[01:43] <edbian> cyperbg: bit-coin or minecraft?
[01:43] <cyperbg>  cyperbg bitcoin
[01:43] <OogyPoogy> it won't open
[01:43] <cyperbg> edbian I meant
[01:43] <cyperbg> it's bitcoin
[01:43] <\bMike\b> cyperbg: what is the first line of the script?
[01:43] <edbian> cyperbg: You put the script in /etc/init.d   ?
[01:44] <OogyPoogy> Shit. my wife is pissed. bRB
[01:44] <cyperbg> Yes, I tried that
[01:44] <mystiqueba> tripelb, thanks
[01:44] <cyperbg> edbian
[01:44] <edbian> cyperbg: and you ran update-rc.d   on it?
[01:44] <edbian> cyperbg: and it starts with #!/bin/bash    ?
[01:44] <cyperbg> I don't know what tha is so no
[01:45] <YankDownUnder> OogyPoogy, edbian http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/992/2372011screenshot.jpg
[01:45] <cyperbg> edbian according to this link I should put my script in /etc/init.d/rc.local  file - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[01:45] <edbian> YankDownUnder: I liked 404 error better
[01:45] <edbian> cyperbg: that works too
[01:45] <YankDownUnder> edbian, Hehehehe...me too...
[01:46] <KM0201> YankDownUnder: dual screens for the win!.. :_
[01:46] <cyperbg> but reading that file decription it says: Run /etc/rc.local if it exist
[01:46] <edbian> YankDownUnder: you monitor must be 10 feet wide
[01:46] <cyperbg> so then which one I put it in?
[01:46] <cyperbg> edbian
[01:46] <YankDownUnder> cyperbg, Just add what you wish in the /etc/rc.local and that's easy enough.
[01:46] <edbian> cyperbg: either one
[01:46] <YankDownUnder> edbian, Two monitors, 24" each.
[01:46] <cyperbg> YankDownUnder I tried, it ain't working
[01:46] <edbian> cyperbg: /etc/rc.local is probably easier.  What line are you putting in there?
[01:46] <edbian> YankDownUnder: nice
[01:46] <cyperbg> edbian one moment I'll tell you
[01:47] <edbian> cyperbg: k
[01:47] <cyperbg> edbian I put /home/cyper/Autominer/startmining.sh before exit 0
[01:47] <cyperbg> would it be better to put:
[01:47] <cyperbg> cd /home/cyper/Autominer
[01:47] <cyperbg> ./startmining.sh
[01:47] <edbian> cyperbg: no
[01:48] <cyperbg> so the first one is not woring too
[01:48] <edbian> cyperbg: can root run that script?  cause root will.
[01:48] <cyperbg> edbian I run it with sudo
[01:48] <cyperbg> it runs fine
[01:48] <edbian> cyperbg: mmmm...
[01:49] <edbian> cyperbg: do this sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:49] <cyperbg> edbian this script starts mining on my 4 cards, but btw now it started cause I can hear my machine running louder, but there are no screens to attached
[01:49] <edbian> cyperbg: Does the bitcoin script start?
[01:49] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. I'm having a real problem. My updates are all funky with the last kernel update: linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic. apt-get and aptitude fail. What can I do?
[01:50] <edbian> cyperbg: Ummm, we need a more object test of it running.  Use ps -e | grep mining   or something
[01:50] <cyperbg> edbian disgregard my last comment
[01:50] <cyperbg> it worked
[01:50] <edbian> cyperbg: oh good!
[01:50] <cyperbg> so let's try  sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:50] <cyperbg> the screens worked
[01:50] <edbian> cyperbg: ok
[01:51] <cyperbg> Usage: /etc/init.d/rc.local start|stop so I'll do sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local stop
[01:51] <cyperbg> right?
[01:51] <cyperbg> start I meant
[01:51] <edbian> cyperbg: sure
[01:51] <cyperbg> sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start works
[01:51] <renaldocreative> Hello everyone
[01:51] <cyperbg> my script starts
[01:52] <edbian> renaldocreative: hello
[01:52] <cyperbg> so why then doesn't it start after reboot?
[01:52] <edbian> cyperbg: I do not know.
[01:52] <cyperbg> edbian any other ideas
[01:52] <edbian> cyperbg: perhaps it is and it takes time for the fans on the cards to spin up
[01:52] <cyperbg> I really need this
[01:52] <cyperbg> no they spin in a matter of 10-15 seconds - I can hear the difference
[01:52] <econdudeawesome> errors can be found here: http://pastebin.com/sQXaU8S8
[01:52] <edbian> cyperbg: reboot and run ps -e | grep mining
[01:52] <YankDownUnder> cyperbg, Um...did you put your stuff AFTER the "exit 0" or before the "exit 0" in the /etc/rc.local?
[01:52] <cyperbg> before
[01:53] <YankDownUnder> cyperbg, Just checking for 'ID10T' errors mate.
[01:53] <cyperbg> no worries mate :)(
[01:53] <cyperbg> met me restart and try
[01:55] <cyperbg> edbian ps -e | grep mining does not display anything
[01:55] <cyperbg> no erros
[01:55] <cyperbg> just a new line
[01:56] <cyperbg> YankDownUnder any ideas?
[01:56] <JRWR> join #ubuntu-server
[01:56] <infobit> renaldocreative, hi whats up
[01:56] <edbian> cyperbg: then it isn't running
[01:56] <edbian> very strange
[01:56] <JRWR> crap
[01:56] <YankDownUnder> cyperbg, How are you calling this script mate? Are you calling it from the /etc/rc/local?
[01:56] <edbian> JRWR: ha
[01:56] <cyperbg> sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start works again
[01:57] <lg> help
[01:57] <edbian> cyperbg: very strange
[01:57] <cyperbg> YankDownUnder no the scrips is in my home folder
[01:57] <edbian> lg: what is your issue?
[01:57] <cyperbg> the script
[01:57] <lg> no thanks
[01:57] <edbian> lg: ?
[01:58] <cyperbg> anyone else?
[01:58] <pieces029> Hey I am trying to install a python module to my home directory because I don't have sudo on the system I'm on.  When I do python setup.py install I get an error that the directory doesn't support .pth files.  Can anyone help me with this problem or suggest another way around this?  Thanks
[01:58] <cyperbg> I'm stuck
[01:58] <YankDownUnder> cyperbg, Right - now we're getting somewhere!!! Right - SO, since it's YOUR script in YOUR home dir, what you'd want to do is add it to the "Startup Applications" mate...easy AS! ;)
[01:58] <edbian> YankDownUnder: he wants it to run when the system turn on.
[01:59] <cyperbg> YankDownUnder I did that but the script has var/log/Autominer.log and it gets access denied
[01:59] <edbian> YankDownUnder: And it should it it's in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:59] <cyperbg> it works - but can't write to the log
[01:59] <cyperbg> and it is important to have access to the log
[01:59] <rewati> hi there i have broadcom wireless card and installed broadcom sta kernel source from synaptic and restarted my computer still no wireless
[01:59] <edbian> pieces029: put the python module source code in the same dir as the program you're writing
[01:59] <cyperbg> edbian adding it to Startup appication works - it just can't write to the log
[01:59] <edbian> cyperbg: Yeah.  It SHOULD work being called from /etc/init.d/local
[02:00] <pieces029> edbian: Ok I'll give that a try
[02:00] <cyperbg> edbian you mean /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[02:01] <blackhawk> lm-sensors applets won't work in unity right?
[02:01] <blackhawk> anything else?
[02:01] <edbian> cyperbg: put the script in /etc/init.d/ and then run sudo update-rc.d on it
[02:01] <cyperbg> ok I'll try
[02:02] <cyperbg> edbian you mean moving the file?
[02:02] <edbian> cyperbg: or copy it
[02:03] <cyperbg> edbian I'm going to try something else first: move the log file to the same dir as the script
[02:03] <edbian> cyperbg: I'm not SURE it needs to be in /etc/init.d/   but put it there to be safe
[02:03] <cyperbg> and then I can add it to Startup and it will work
[02:03] <edbian> cyperbg: Just change the permissions of the log file.
[02:03] <edbian> cyperbg: But it will only run when you log in then.
[02:03] <edbian> cyperbg: where's the other way it starts when the computer starts
[02:03] <cyperbg> edbian I login automatically
[02:03] <cyperbg> that is not a problem
[02:03] <edbian> cyperbg: Well there ya go then!
[02:04] <cyperbg> how do I change the permission to write from user?
[02:04] <\bMike\b> cyperbg: chmod
[02:04] <edbian> cyperbg: sudo chown you:you /path/to/log/file  would work too
[02:05] <cyperbg> \bMike\b I know it's chmod, but I don't know what to write after it
[02:05] <pieces029> edbian: so there is c++ files in there as well should I compile those first?
[02:05] <C_Smith> okay, my sound system is refusing to respond, I go to change my volume, and I can't, I click on sound preferences, it pops up a windows saying "Waiting for sound system to respond", and it doesn't stop.
[02:05] <cyperbg> edbian i'll try
[02:05] <edbian> pieces029: Is the module not pure python?
[02:05] <C_Smith> anything I can try>
[02:05] <C_Smith> *?
[02:05] <C_Smith> mind you, I just updated my kernel to 3.0
[02:06] <pieces029> edbian: no, its pyopencl, so it's a wrapper to open cl
[02:06] <edbian> pieces029: Then you'll have to compile the C++ code.  If it's part of the module.
[02:06] <edbian> gotta go!
[02:09] <cyperbg> edbian I put it in /etc/init.d
[02:09] <cyperbg> but how do I run sudo update-rc.d
[02:09] <C_Smith> eh, screw it, I'll go back to 2.6.38
[02:09] <cyperbg> what follows after
[02:09] <C_Smith> Edbien isn't here anymore, he has said "gotta go"
[02:10] <cyperbg> there is help, but I can't seem to understand it
[02:10] <C_Smith> cyberbg, Edbien isn't here.
[02:10] <cyperbg> C_Smith 10x
[02:10] <cyperbg> I don't see quits
[02:11] <grendal-prime> hey what do i need installed to be able to use sftp through the kde file browser?
[02:11] <C_Smith> I'm scrolling up just a little bit and seeing that Ebien has left.
[02:11] <C_Smith> *Edbien
[02:11] <grendal-prime> thougt it was kioserver
[02:12] <C_Smith> well, since I can't get help with my issue, I'll just go back to 2.6.38-10-generic
[02:12] <C_Smith> as my kernel
[02:19] <usuario> HOLA
[02:20] <bazhang> !es | usuario
[02:20] <Neizer_> does any one know if ubunto supports touch screens yet
[02:21] <Neizer_> I can't get my stylus to work
[02:24] <wildgoose> Neizer, xsetwacom
[02:26] <hamed> hi i am xubuntu      In order to run Ardesia you need to enable a composite manager
[02:26] <hamed> how can i enable composite manager ?
[02:26] <wols_> hamed: glxinfo |grep direct
[02:28] <wols_> hamed: and read http://code.google.com/p/ardesia/wiki/FAQ the section Can I use Ardesia on Linux without a composite manager?
[02:30] <razz11> when creating a USB stick with dd to install OS does the USB drive needs to be formatted, or does it matter it's got another OS ISO on it?
[02:31] <wols_> the USB stick doesn't need to have a filesystem
[02:32] <DasEi> razz11: for the live's being dd'able no need to pre-format
[02:33] <razz11> wols_: DasEi: I thought so, dd is at block level isn't it?
[02:33] <DasEi> yes
[02:34] <razz11> wols_: DasEi: also it's got Debian DVD image, if I use a CD image of another OS, will it cause any issues as some of the debian stuff will still be on the USB stick. thats why I was asking whether I need to wipe it first?
[02:35] <tfdev> knock knock
[02:36] <tfdev> :(
[02:36] <DasEi> razz11: debian/ubuntu installer commonly need other perequisits, such as formatting to fat and a tool like unetbootin, usb-creator,pendrivelinux
[02:36] <DasEi> !usb
[02:36] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. I'm having a real problem. My updates are all funky with the last kernel update: linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic. apt-get and aptitude fail. What can I do?
[02:36] <econdudeawesome> errors can be found here: http://pastebin.com/sQXaU8S8
[02:37] <DasEi> razz11: other live environments like superGrudDisk2 work just by dd though
[02:37] <DasEi> grubdisk*
[02:37] <alazare619> whats the terminal command to create a partition table?
[02:38] <arfbtwn> alazare619: take your pick, fdisk || parted, i'm sure there are others
[02:39] <razz11> DasEi: just curious, I was going to make a fedora live cd usb to test, wondering do I need to wipe it clean before I write the fedora stuff to the USB?
[02:39] <razz11> DasEi: I am just trying to learn how to do this in CLI
[02:40] <DasEi> razz11: visit pendrivelinux.com
[02:40] <DasEi> alazare619: man cfdisk
[02:45] <alazare619> how can i setup pureftpd to run as inted
[02:45] <daniel_> is there a way to use an iso file without burning it to a disc ? maybe a program that tricks my computer into thinking its on a disc
[02:46] <arfbtwn> alazare619: add a file for it under the xinetd.d directory, IIRC.
[02:46] <hamed> thank you very much i already enabled composite manager
[02:46] <arfbtwn> daniel_: mount -t iso9660 -o loop,ro <iso file> <mount point>
[02:46] <alazare619> artbtwn it cant be initid as default and not standalone?
[02:46] <DasEi> !info usb-creator| daniel_
[02:47] <DasEi> !unetbootin
[02:47] <DasEi> !info usb-creator
[02:47] <daniel_> arfbtwn what would be the mount point?
[02:47] <daniel_> arfbtwn, what would be the mount point?
[02:48] <martian_> Would anyone know of a cross-platform keyboarding/mouse sharing application alternative to Synergy? Synergy is designed to use one computer to control many, when I want to allow many to control one.
[02:48] <arfbtwn> daniel_: wherever you like, I think you can also double click from nautilus
[02:49] <Semitones_tea> hey everyone, is there a way to bring up GRUB if holding shift isn't working? I'm trying to rescue a computer that won't boot normally.
[02:49] <DasEi> martian_: just ssh -X in ?!
[02:49] <arfbtwn> alazare619: I can't remember the full steps, but you should see other files in /etc/xinetd.d which each describe a service
[02:49] <daniel_> arfbtwn, well what im trying to do is i have a game that is in iso form and ur saying all i had to do was double click it and i should be able to play it ?
[02:49] <jrib> Semitones_tea: boot a live cd and work from there
[02:49] <alazare619> yea i got you artbtwn
[02:50] <Semitones_tea> jrib, my cd drive used to be working, but Bios doesn't detect it anymore. Could it have come unplugged?
[02:50] <arfbtwn> alazare619: so you just create a new one for pureftpd, I think you need to disable stand alone in it's conf file though...
[02:50] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: you can try to press e on regular kernel and add single to it, that should boot into init 1 , too
[02:50] <bazhang> !iso > daniel_
[02:50] <w30> Semitones_tea, I get my grub boot to pause by repeatedly hitting the down arrow
[02:50] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, at what point should I press e?
[02:51] <Semitones_tea> w30, the Grub menu seems to be skipped by default though
[02:51] <martian_> DasEi: well, that's not terribly cross platform :)
[02:51] <Semitones_tea> otherwise that'd work ;)
[02:51] <DasEi> martian_: just ssh -X in ?! martian_: why not ?
[02:51] <daniel_> bazhang, ok still confused what to put as the mount point though
[02:52] <bazhang> daniel_, its a windows game? you would need to run it via wine then
[02:52] <w30> Semitones_tea, edit your grub config and add a time pause to it
[02:52] <DasEi> daniel_: set one manually, aka sudo mkdir /media/iso
[02:53] <martian_> DasEi: because if I'm on linux, I can't ssh -X in to a windows machine, or the other way around
[02:53] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: see w30, edit /etc/default/grub , remove splash and adjust timeout, then you should see bootmenu (and then also recovery-kernel)
[02:54] <DasEi> martian_: us  vnc then
[02:54] <DasEi> !vnc
[02:54] <DasEi> martian_: vnc is there both ways preconfigured
[02:55] <flametai1> Hey guys I installed Mupen64 and it worked for awhile and all of a sudden poof........It's no longer in Applications, I even edited the menu's looking for the app and it's not in there??? =/ And it's still installed, I've tried uninstalling then re-install but no go, can anyone help me? =/
[02:55] <martian_> DasEi: Yeah, I'm familiar with it. It's far from seamless, but it'll work. Thanks.
[02:55] <flametai1> Really badly would like to play all of my old N64 games............ =|
[02:55] <bazhang> flametai1, installed how and from where
[02:55] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, can I do that without a cd rom drive?
[02:55] <flametai1> bazhang, Ubuntu Software Center just by clicking install? lol
[02:56] <flametai1> bazhang, it was there for about 2 weeks and just poof disappeared o.O
[02:56] <DasEi> martian_: it depend on your focus, as in performance/overhead, teamviewer might also do, if non-commercial
[02:56] <bazhang> flametai1, mupen64plus you mean
[02:56] <flametai1> bazhang, yES.
[02:57] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: yes
[02:59] <flametai1> bazhang, any idea? =/
[02:59] <bazhang> flametai1, try alt f2 mupen64plus
[03:00] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, and without USB too?
[03:01] <flametai1> bazhang, Didn't even show up on system monitor =/
[03:01] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: yes, sure : gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[03:02] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, I can't get to a terminal though :/
[03:02] <Semitones_tea> not even a virtual console
[03:02] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: give the timeout say a 10 seconds and leave the line about splash just as =""m safe, sudo update-grub
[03:03] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[03:03] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, when I do that, it says "monitor out of range" and I can't even get back to f7 or f8 so I have to hard shut down
[03:04] <wols_> Semitones_tea: what videocard and driver is this?
[03:04] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: why can't you call terminal ?
[03:06] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, no idea, it just sends the monitor out of range
[03:07] <Semitones_tea> wols_, I believe it is nv, and it is an older AGP 4x card
[03:07] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: alt+F2 , sudo init 1 ?
[03:08] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, when I boot the computer, I get an xorg error, and then a black screen with a pointer. I never get any further than that I'm afraid...
[03:08] <arfbtwn> Semitones_tea: in that case, ctrl+alt+f1 should get you to a terminal?
[03:09] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: ah, so that's the whole story, and you can't get to bootmenu, I assume it's least lucid and not an older distro with grub 1 ?
[03:09] <Semitones_tea> DasEi, I think it is 10.04, I don't remember if that's lucid
[03:09] <DasEi> it is
[03:10] <Semitones_tea> arfbtwn, I thought it would, but instead I get "monitor frequency out of range" and I can't even get back to f8
[03:10] <DasEi> Semitones_tea: well then you will need a life environment to chroot in and fix that graphic's driver
[03:10] <razz11> can dd command be used to create a bootable USB from any distribution's iso?
[03:11] <arfbtwn> Semitones_tea: I jumped in at a late point here, but have you specified vga= in your kernel line?
[03:12] <rww> razz11: no, it depends on how the distribution prepares their ISO
[03:13] <razz11> rww: interesting, is there a way to tell if it will work?
[03:13] <tamir> hi every one i m noob. how i can real time audio stream ?
[03:13] <DasEi> arfbtwn: no way to call grub's menu
[03:14] <ritzz> hi y'all... does anyone knows how to control  access to hard drives to other account/users  (besides admin account) ?
[03:14] <rww> razz11: no idea. I'd probably just try it, or ask the distribution.
[03:14] <razz11> rww: thanks
[03:14] <terry> Semitones_tea: Try F7
[03:14] <arfbtwn> DasEi: v. weird, indeed!
[03:14] <DasEi> ritzz: fstab and permissions on the mount-dir
[03:15] <DasEi> !fstab
[03:15] <terry> Semitones_tea: tty7 should be GUI  tty6 should be console
[03:16] <ritzz> oh i forgot i mount second hard drive via truecrypt does this apply to fstab
[03:16] <terry> ritzz: accessing another user's filesystem requires su
[03:17] <TheCyph3r> sudo su
[03:17] <terry> timrc:  TheCyph3r su - other-user-name-here
[03:18] <blackhawk> i did  formate some free space on my HDD for storage as ext4 and when i tried to mount it, it gave me an error and said that only root can mount it
[03:18] <blackhawk> what should i do
[03:19] <LS1> hi, trying to get a broadcom BCM57788 to load with modprobe broadcom and tg3 but still no eth0 showing up, any ideas?
[03:19] <terry> TheCyph3r: If I want to access ritzz's filesystem, I would do:   su - ritzz
[03:19] <terry> TheCyph3r: And give ritzz's password
[03:20] <TheCyph3r> terry: okay cool. I'll remember that if I create other user accounts
[03:21] <terry> TheCyph3r: To do it as admin, just do   sudo ls /home/rigzz/   (and give my password) (if (and only if) I am in admin group)
[03:21] <DasEi> blackhawk: prefix with sudo and for automatic mounting add it to fstab
[03:24] <johnnyonflame> i've installed FreeNX on my server
[03:24] <johnnyonflame> and ran the setup
[03:24] <johnnyonflame> but I can't seem to be able to log onto the server
[03:24] <johnnyonflame> "The session negotiation failed"
[03:25] <johnnyonflame> "Error is: Session startup failed"
[03:25] <terry> johnnyonflame: Forgot  your passowrd?
[03:25] <johnnyonflame> nah, the password is right
[03:25] <johnnyonflame> just installed NX
[03:25] <blackhawk> DasEi sorry but i don't quite understand that.i'm new to this
[03:25] <blackhawk> can you give me the full command?
[03:25] <terry> johnnyonflame: What do you mean, "NX"?
[03:25] <johnnyonflame> FreenX
[03:25] <cdavis> I used handbrake to format a movie for my iPad, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the movie onto the iPad
[03:25] <johnnyonflame> NX*
[03:26] <blackhawk> ...
[03:26] <DasEi> blackhawk: open a terminal ..
[03:26] <DasEi> blackhawk: sudo fdisk -l             , which is the new partition ?
[03:26] <terry> johnnyonflame: /join #nx
[03:27] <terry> johnnyonflame: But you should be able to boot to single user mode.  What boot loader does it use?  Grub or Lilo?
[03:28] <johnnyonflame> the system is running
[03:28] <johnnyonflame> but i can create a session on NX
[03:28] <terry> johnnyonflame: /join #nx
[03:28] <DasEi> blackhawk:, which is the new partition ? /dev/sd...
[03:29] <testytesty> hrmm
[03:30] <lantis469> hey wat's up everybody
[03:30] <lantis469> ?
[03:30] <testytesty> hi lantis
[03:30] <ali1> السلام عليكم
[03:31] <atomicfreeze> hello
[03:31] <ali1> هل احد يتكلم لغة العربية ؟
[03:31] <lantis469> has anybody here seen the movie "Hackers"
[03:31] <lantis469> ?
[03:31] <testytesty> course
[03:31] <hstacey> mm
[03:32] <lantis469> "Hack The Planet" lol that was an inspirational movie for me
[03:32] <renaldocreative> lansis469 yes i
[03:32] <rww> !ot | lantis469
[03:33] <renaldocreative> I think they use Unix in Hacker
[03:33] <Snooffy> !guidelines
[03:33] <Infernet> lantis469: hack the planet
[03:33] <flametai1> Hey guys....... Having trouble with Mupen64Plus still....... I figured out what my problem was but now I can't get CuteMupen to work on Ubuntu 10.10? =| Can anyone help me?
[03:34] <testytesty> flametai1: what happens when you try to get it to work?
[03:35] <flametai1> testytesty, Well I installed it all using this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1686384 Followed it to the exact, open it up, and nothing happens =| Oh.... I think I might know what the problem is 1 sec
[03:35] <Peddy> how can I simulate XF86AudioLowerVolume being pressed from the terminal?
[03:36] <lantis469> use Project 64 nd install it with the windows emulator wine
[03:36] <lantis469> or with crossover which is another windows emulator
[03:37] <keithclark> Is there a program that can create a .mpg or other movie format from a directory of date organized .jpeg files?
[03:37] <flametai1> testytesty, Figured it out LOL Thank you for replying though :)
[03:37] <testytesty> Peddy: amixer sset Master 2- or something like that
[03:37] <testytesty> keithclark: yes, mencoder from mplayer is quite good at that
[03:37] <testytesty> keithclark: also ffmpeg
[03:38] <Peddy> testytesty, that would change the volume, and I have tried that, but I want to actually simulate that keypress (so notify-osd can show volume, etc)
[03:38] <testytesty> Peddy: oh
[03:38] <testytesty> Peddy: you're using GNOME+Unity?
[03:39] <Peddy> testytesty, gnome + gnome shell, actually
[03:39] <SianaGearz> helloes. i installed me new ram and PAE kernel, but PAE won't boot, it hangs -.- the non-PAE kernel still boots OK. how do i determine the cause?
[03:39] <SianaGearz> i'm on natty
[03:39] <Peddy> testytesty, but it should be standard across gnome. I can use Unity too.
[03:39] <Rigin> pls help me
[03:39] <testytesty> Peddy: it might be, might not =)
[03:39] <testytesty> Peddy: should work across X, though: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys#Setting_up_xmodmap
[03:40] <johnnyonflame> What's the easiest VNC server to install? (one that doesn't suck much)
[03:40] <testytesty> Rigin: ...with?
[03:40] <SianaGearz> ram checked out fine in memtest
[03:40] <Peddy> thanks testytesty. I'm also looking into dbus calls, there might be one for volume
[03:40] <lsheeba> peace= all
[03:40] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: I thought Ubuntu came with one
[03:40] <Rigin> how can we install applications in format tar.bz2
[03:40] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: check system/admin section of menu
[03:40] <testytesty> Rigin: usually by compiling them - what application?
[03:40] <Rigin> pls help me urgent
[03:40] <johnnyonflame> I have no GUI atm
[03:40] <lsheeba> is any1 here expert with linux games from windows?
[03:40] <johnnyonflame> it's a VDS
[03:41] <testytesty> lsheeba: are you looking for an expert, or a solution to a problem?
[03:41] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: vds?
[03:41] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: I like tigervnc
[03:41] <SianaGearz> may i repeat my question or is this useless?
[03:41] <Rigin> .how can we compile the application
[03:41] <johnnyonflame> VDS= Virtual dedicated server
[03:41] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: but if you don't have a GUI you probably want openssh
[03:41] <johnnyonflame> i'm connected to SSH
[03:41] <johnnyonflame> and the server have GNOME/KDE installed already
[03:41] <Rigin> how can we install applications in format tar.bz2
[03:42] <testytesty> a virtual dedicated server... that sounds oxymoronical
[03:42] <Rigin> pls help me urgent
[03:42] <lsheeba> testytesty, i have a game which is from the IOQuake Engine , the problem is its created from scratch by afriend , and the launcher to start the game is a .exe for windows users , now we only need a launcher for linux so linux users could also play it
[03:42] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: so you need to start the VNC server from console
[03:42] <johnnyonflame> it's cheap, and it works just fine for what i want
[03:42] <Vastlocyr> How can I send hardware error messages (cannot enumerate usb blah blah) to /dev/null? They make the tty unusable with constant spam. >.>
[03:42] <johnnyonflame> yeah, pretty much
[03:42] <testytesty> Rigin: which application?
[03:42] <Rigin> its to install new mozilla firefox
[03:42] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: not trying to insult it, it just doesn't make sense in my head
[03:42] <testytesty> Rigin: which version do you want?
[03:42] <Rigin> mozilla firefox
[03:42] <wisevoyager> Hi, everyone. Is this channel support ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lync?
[03:43] <terry> yes
[03:43] <testytesty> wisevoyager: for all ubuntu versions and distros, AFAIK
[03:43] <Rigin> 5.0.1
[03:43] <DasEi> SianaGearz: ok to repeat half hours wise ; check /var/log/syslog, dmesg, and kern.log, apart also try to install linux-image-server, that also comes with pae
[03:43] <SianaGearz> DasEi: thx
[03:43] <johnnyonflame> Well, it's basically a virtual machine
[03:43] <lsheeba> i can send u the launcher and u can change the paremeters to be in the linux language with the same procedure because the engine runs both in windows and linux , quake files are like that when u have quake installed in windows u just copy the quake files and add a launcher and walla but i cant find a person who has this knowledge of this case
[03:43] <testytesty> Rigin: well for starters, you don't want to use a tar.bz2
[03:43] <johnnyonflame> in a box full of other servers
[03:43] <wisevoyager> testytesty: thanks bro!
[03:43] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: that part I get
[03:44] <johnnyonflame> so, what didn't you get?
[03:44] <testytesty> lsheeba: what does the launcher do?
[03:44] <testytesty> johnnyonflame: how it's dedicated
[03:45] <Rigin> yes i need
[03:45] <johnnyonflame> It's just sold like that, it's not really dedicated
[03:45] <SianaGearz> DasEi: well dmesg apparently only remembers the current session, not the one which doesn't boot. i'll go check the rest.
[03:45] <Rigin> but i don't know to process with tar.bz2
[03:45] <lsheeba> the launcher starts the engine thats all , the engine compatibility can run in linux also if the launcher is available
[03:45] <johnnyonflame> the only dedicated thing about it is that it runs what i want and only what I want on it
[03:45] <testytesty> Rigin: you don't need the tar.bz2, there are binaries
[03:46] <DasEi> SianaGearz: dmes will also report a broken start, and where it hangs, dmesg > dmesg.txt of better scrolling
[03:46] <DasEi> for*
[03:46] <Rigin> then how can we devolop the application mozilla
[03:46] <keithclark> testytesty, perfection, thanks
[03:46] <testytesty> Rigin: oh you got it from mozilla.com ?
[03:47] <Rigin> yes
[03:47] <testytesty> keithclark: youtubeing, are we? =)
[03:47] <lsheeba> testytesty, i got default linux games installed in my desktop like warsow and nexuiz , is their a way to see how the launcher works by editing it ? forexample nexuiz launcher offcourse inside it has a paremeter saying fs_game  < nexuiz directory engine > , i want to change that to IOQuakeXbeta Directory Engine > so then it will be able to launch the game thats all
[03:47] <Rigin> a new version with browser id
[03:47] <lwizardl> what would you say would be the best version of Ubuntu (not exactly the Xubuntu, or kubuntu) such as 6.04 etc for using to recover files from old machines ? think like win98-xp based computers
[03:47] <SianaGearz> DasEi: i simply piped it into less :P
[03:47] <DasEi> :)
[03:48] <testytesty> lwizardl: I'd use http://www.sysresccd.org/ personally
[03:48] <keithclark> testytesty, no, just combining still pics of a surveillance cam
[03:48] <testytesty> lwizardl: if I had to pick an Ubuntu variety, I'd pick one with a lighter desktop than GNOME or KDE
[03:48] <testytesty> keithclark: you surveiller you
[03:48] <keithclark> testytesty, gotta watch
[03:49] <testytesty> keithclark: I think there are easier ways if you just want to watch
[03:49] <testytesty> mplayer can probably play them directly without manually combining them
[03:49] <Rigin> pls help me
[03:49] <testytesty> Rigin: relax
[03:49] <keithclark> testytesty, and they are?
[03:49] <cactusfrog> i keep getting this error when i try to edit a file http://pastebin.com/GSK8kcKh
[03:49] <lwizardl> testytesty, yeah I have looked at sysrec before. I was looking at the xubuntu because of how low the overhead system requirements that are needed. I'm just looking for a distro version to keep on hand for older machines. Like the system I was given today to do some repairs on seems to only have about 64mb of ram
[03:50] <testytesty> Rigin: inside the tar.bz2 is a tar file, inside the tar file is a directory, inside the directory is a Firefox install you can run
[03:50] <SianaGearz> DasEi: oh! apparently the kernel and a whole bunch of services booted just fine. maybe it locked up when starting x.org
[03:50] <lsheeba> ok Rigin  u want to install a developer mozzile based browser for developer purposes ? or u just want the updated mozzilla firefox installed on ur ubuntu ?
[03:50] <testytesty> Rigin: extract with the following command: tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2
[03:50] <testytesty> he just wants a 5.0.1 binary
[03:50] <testytesty> keithclark: perfectly good question =)
[03:51] <testytesty> keithclark: http://www.noah.org/wiki/Mplayer_notes#Play_a_sequence_of_images
[03:51] <DasEi> !bootoptions | SianaGearz , or maybe reconfigure xorg
[03:51] <josue> hi, someone know how to configure kate to connecto with xampp?
[03:51] <DasEi> !nomodeset
[03:51] <testytesty> josue: do what?
[03:51] <SianaGearz> DasEi: maybe it's of relevance that i'm running the edgers xorg for the 275 nvidia driver, because the 270 is badly broken -.-
[03:51] <lsheeba> isnt firefox 5.0 installed by default in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:51] <keithclark> testytesty, a nice gui would be awesome for that command
[03:51] <testytesty> keithclark: GUI shmui
[03:51] <xangua> lsheeba: if you have all the updates, yes
[03:51] <Rigin> thank u
[03:51] <SianaGearz> DasEi: i am always nomodeset
[03:51] <josue> kate use a mysql extension to connect to mysql, but I have mysql on xampp
[03:52] <Rigin> thank u testytesty
[03:52] <josue> so not the same
[03:52] <keithclark> testytesty, I can live in cl
[03:52] <DasEi> SianaGearz: could be, maybe try a common xorg first (empty, reconfigure)
[03:52] <oneliner> ok how can i fill a bug report?
[03:52] <DasEi> !bug
[03:52] <SianaGearz> thanks DasEi
[03:52] <josue> Unable to connect to database.
[03:52] <josue> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) QMYSQL: No se ha podido conectar
[03:52] <cactusfrog> so i take it no one has seen "(gedit:24307): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory
[03:52] <cactusfrog> " before?
[03:52] <oneliner> what would be the package name for the software center?
[03:53] <Rigin> i have 1 more doubt
[03:53] <blade> anyone any good with ati from the command line?
[03:53] <Rigin> where do we execute this tar -xjvf foo.tar.bz2 command
[03:53] <lsheeba> as far as i know , no more need in using terminal because most packages are ready in default blade
[03:54] <keithclark> Rigin, from the directory from which yo which to uncompress the target file
[03:54] <lsheeba> terminal is just for people who wants things in  a linux feeling to feel the linux
[03:54] <blade> lsheeba that's what i thought also but from what i understand the only way i can enable both of my vid cards would be with the aticonfig -- commands in terminal
[03:55] <Rigin> how
[03:55] <tomek_> hi
[03:55] <ritzz> so sorry
[03:56] <Rigin> pls help to excecute the command
[03:56] <ritzz> phone call
[03:56] <Rigin> of aticonfig
[03:56] <lsheeba> +chmod x+u
[03:56] <tomek_> I need easy to use and understand samba configuring tool .Any propositions?
[03:56] <lsheeba> i think
[03:56] <lsheeba> wat is the file type?
[03:56] <keithclark> fenugreek, no
[03:56] <Rigin> tar.bz2
[03:57] <night> i called getpid() method in different thread in same process , i found thread id is same , why
[03:57] <lsheeba> just /sh file.run
[03:57] <ritzz> ok this is my process mount via trucrypt as admin my hard drive but if i log in into family account hard drive shows in desktop and also it's contents i want to block access of familoy account to that hard drive
[03:57] <Rigin> okk
[03:58] <lsheeba> ritzz, u can give access in the control center
[03:58] <Rigin> d
[03:58] <night> APUE said : in linux thread is a special process ,so there are different pid
[03:58] <lsheeba> man this is insane , i come here to ask for help them im pulled to back o'l days
[03:59] <mgriffin> hi, how can i disable booting into graphical mode in natty?
[04:00] <mgriffin> i tried several things so far, such as update-rc.d remove gdm, chmod -x /sbin/gdm, setting /etc/init/gdm.conf to stop on 0123456 and commenting out the start, added keyword 'text' to grub
[04:00] <bc81> hello.  i'm wondering if there is some way to update calibre on maverick meerkat.  the version installed is 0.7.18, and i'd like to update to a newer version of calibre without having to upgrade ubuntu.
[04:00] <mgriffin> bc81: looked for a PPA?
[04:00] <ritzz> control center?
[04:00] <mgriffin> ritzz: my keyboard and mouse are not working in gui currently
[04:00] <lsheeba> mgriffin, at start up , just logoff now and choose ur desktop environment on the bottom cornor
[04:00] <mgriffin> i guess i should have specified that ;)
[04:00] <bc81> mgriffin: yes, but i cant find one for maverick, maybe i'm overlookinng something?
[04:01] <mgriffin> not sure
[04:01] <ritzz> oops sorry was answering with a question to my own question  ;)  sorry
[04:01] <Rigin> how can we connect to a remote computer
[04:01] <ritzz> at mgriffin
[04:01] <lsheeba> bc81, if theirs dependencies in updated libc's then u got to update those so u can update ur calibre
[04:01] <lsheeba> Rigin, get teamviewer www.teamviewer.com stress/free worry/free
[04:01] <wols_> lsheeba: calibre is a pure java app
[04:02] <mgriffin> https://launchpad.net/~fabricesp/+archive/ppa/+build/2264655
[04:02] <Rigin> i know with team viewer. with out teamviewer can we proceed
[04:03] <Rigin> with utility in ubuntu
[04:03] <wols_> Rigin: english please?
[04:03] <lsheeba> wols_, im helping him out , its the same case scenario procedure , computer minds work in the same trivia , no complications from the new generation folks who speak with fantasy , i speak it clearly
[04:03] <wols_> Rigin: there is vino already installed in ubuntu. it's a VNC server like teamviewer
[04:03] <lsheeba> Rigin, yes through the ubuntu utility , fiddle around , its not rocketscience =)
[04:03] <Rigin> "Conneect to server "
[04:03] <xangua> bc81: you can compile
[04:03] <wols_> lsheeba: you talk simply crap. go and sleep. ircing while drunk is bad for you
[04:03] <bc81> xangua: ok i will try to.  thanks
[04:04] <Rigin> can u demonstrate
[04:04] <lsheeba> Rigin, go to google news read about what scientist speak about memory loss and memory problems , u need to work urself out m8
[04:04] <mgriffin> so any guesses on disbling gui boot if you cant use gui due to mouse/kb not working? (i can however init=/bin/bash)
[04:04] <wols_> lsheeba: please stay on topic for ubuntu support
[04:04] <Rigin> can u demonstrate by accessing my computer
[04:04] <yagoo> mgriffin, what kind of mouse/keyb is it, bluetooth?
[04:04] <wols_> !nodm
[04:04] <mgriffin> yagoo: it is a laptop, and they are built in
[04:05] <yagoo> mgriffin, what model
[04:05] <mgriffin> i think ill just blow away the xorg conf and see what that does
[04:05] <mgriffin> lenovo s12
[04:05] <wols_> Rigin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[04:05] <mgriffin> see, what happened was, that the thing lost power doing a dist-upgrade
[04:05] <lsheeba> please dont offend people wols_
[04:05] <lsheeba> i am a muslim and i am in Emirates , theirs no alcohol in the city im in , im living in Khalifa Bin Zayed City
[04:06] <yagoo> mgriffin, on maverick beta, ur laptop is at least mentioned ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks )
[04:06] <lsheeba> o wols_  do u have any idea of game launchers for linux? i have 1 for windows , we need that converted for windows and not just used for wine , the game engine is compatible with Linux and Windows
[04:06] <rww> lsheeba: As wols_ said, #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, not fitness discussion.
[04:06] <yagoo> mgriffin, is anything in the usb plugged in when u installed or boot?
[04:06] <a111> lsheeba, Dont they have it in hotels
[04:06] <KM0201> Rigin: another way, if you're trying to help someone who cant access their router to open ports, is to set up a reverse connection (you open ports on your router, and allow them to connect to you, but you see their desktop_)
[04:06] <a111> or resturants
[04:06] <lsheeba> not on this city a111
[04:06] <yagoo> oh
[04:06] <yagoo> mgriffin, so u lost power while doing an upgrade.. that explains everything..
[04:06] <blade> any one here able to help with some terminal commands for aticonfig
[04:07] <mgriffin> yagoo: yeah.
[04:07] <yagoo> mgriffin, just bak up ur stuff from /home and do reinstall
[04:07] <mgriffin> yagoo: yea...
[04:07] <wols_> !tell Rigin about pm
[04:07] <Rigin> any please demonste me by accessing my system
[04:07] <lsheeba> blade, u got to go to x11/etc/xorg.conf
[04:07] <a111> DeezeNuts, this is not  /g/tv
[04:07] <DeezeNuts> ?
[04:07] <lsheeba> i did some stuff of that 5 years ago
[04:07] <DeezeNuts> a111 who are you
[04:07] <blade> lsheeba,  i understand that
[04:07] <DeezeNuts> I came here to ask a question
[04:07] <yagoo> mgriffin, lesson learned.. always use ac adapter power when doing upgrades
[04:07] <mgriffin> :(
[04:08] <yagoo> mgriffin, nothing we can do..
[04:08] <wols_> mgriffin: reinstall xorg
[04:08] <yagoo> mgriffin, reinstall everything..
[04:08] <blade> lheeba i do not need help finding this i need someone that understands the commands better than i
[04:08] <KM0201> yagoo: unfortunatel, that should be common sense bt... thats not so common nowdays
[04:08] <lsheeba> just ask man theirs people here who's been using ubuntu since dapper
[04:08] <nit-wit> guity
[04:08] <nit-wit> *guilty
[04:08] <mgriffin> KM0201: well, it was for a friend, who forgot the charger
[04:08] <mgriffin> and well, you know, things happen
[04:08] <DeezeNuts> does anyone know where Ubuntu's keymaps are kept? trying to set up BACKSPACE + ENTER as a delete button
[04:09] <blade> hey nit-wit good to see ya again
[04:09] <mgriffin> i can fix this.. i just wanted to understand the boot process
[04:09] <yagoo> mgriffin, well tell ur friend he's doomed... there's corruption all over the place including the filesystem..
[04:09] <mgriffin> it seems that perhaps gdm is not used at all...
[04:09] <KM0201> mgriffin: well, you should've told her no charger no upgrade.... seriously.. you had no idea how long it would take, so why would you attempt it on battery, knowing you could run out
[04:09] <mgriffin> yagoo: naw, i have faith in xfs
[04:09] <wols_> mgriffin: dpkg -l |grep -v ^ii
[04:09] <lsheeba> backspace + enter is this possible DeezeNuts
[04:09] <yagoo> mgriffin, only thing u can do is tell him to backcup /home and reinstall the OS
[04:09] <nit-wit> blade, thanks, I had to install fedora xfce my natty and oneiric crash x constantly
[04:09] <yagoo> wols_, the machine lost power..
[04:09] <wols_> DeezeNuts: in X?
[04:09] <mgriffin> yagoo: you are silly, i can fix this, just wanted some hints on the boot process, but thanks for the sentiments
[04:09] <yagoo> wols_, there's filesystem corruption.
[04:09] <ritzz> i dont want to be a nusiance but is there any more info on how can i control access to hard drives mounted via truecrypt with control center
[04:09] <DeezeNuts> I don't know lsheeba, I just need a delete shortcut for Ubuntu
[04:10] <DeezeNuts> It doesn't have to be BACKSPACE + ENTER
[04:10] <wols_> oh, xfs. yeah, using xfs on a notebook is a stupid idea
[04:10] <yagoo> mgriffin, well good luck.
[04:10] <mgriffin> thanks, anyway...
[04:10] <blade> nit-wit, ewww i really do not like the look of xfce .... it reminds me of something.... not sure what
[04:10] <mgriffin> so is gdm used in this version at all?
[04:10] <lsheeba> DeezeNuts, click on start > search > type shortcut
[04:10] <wols_> mgriffin: still stands: fsck and the reinstall X
[04:10] <mgriffin> wols_: no thanks.
[04:10] <wols_> mgriffin: gdm is used in every ubuntu
[04:10] <mgriffin> oh X
[04:11] <mgriffin> wols_: why can i chmod -x gdm and end up in gui?
[04:11] <wols_> DeezeNuts: this in X?
[04:11] <daurnimator> anyone know a ppa with newer kernals?
[04:11] <yagoo> "<mgriffin> see, what happened was, that the thing lost power doing a dist-upgrade"
[04:11] <DeezeNuts> not sure what you mean by X
[04:11] <DeezeNuts> Ubuntu 10.10?
[04:11] <DeezeNuts> Yes
[04:11] <yagoo> ^reinst X is not good enough.
[04:11] <DeezeNuts> Im on a CR-48 btw
[04:11] <wols_> DeezeNuts: X = X11 = the GUI you are using
[04:11] <blade> nit-wit, still working on the dual head issue but getting closer i think
[04:11] <DeezeNuts> its gnome
[04:11] <mgriffin> yagoo: apt-get install -f was pretty happy, i just cant get upstart running in single user to start network
[04:12] <wols_> DeezeNuts: xmodmap then
[04:12] <ByteWiz> i
[04:12] <DeezeNuts> Okay
[04:12] <DeezeNuts> how can i get to that
[04:12] <yagoo> mgriffin, dpkg -C
[04:12] <mgriffin> to be more precise i did 'apt-get upgrade' with new version of apt list, but now need to do the final pass with dist-upgrade
[04:12] <wols_> DeezeNuts: man xmodmap  for starters
[04:12] <ByteWiz> Which utility is best to convert .chm files to .pdf ?
[04:12] <yagoo> that's pretty much all
[04:12] <DeezeNuts> thanks
[04:12] <rww> mgriffin: fyi, that's also not the supported method for upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu.
[04:12] <mgriffin> i am sure it isnt
[04:12] <mgriffin> but i am not here to debate that
[04:13] <wols_> mgriffin: what happens if you try to run ubuntu normally. where do you end up exactly?
[04:14] <mgriffin> wols_: in x, logged in, with a firefox icon visible but out of reach, now response when i hit keys or move mouse, whether builtin or usb
[04:14] <DarkStar_> hey can i change the audio output port , like to send Front sound from the Center sound port
[04:14] <DarkStar_> ?
[04:14] <mgriffin> it seems irqbalance is not ^ii i will try fixing that
[04:14] <mgriffin> but i bet it is just some xorg conf breakage
[04:14] <mgriffin> i just want out of the gui, but not in single user mode
[04:14] <wols_> mgriffin: ctrl+alt+f1 no work?
[04:15] <mgriffin> wols_: right, i can bang on the keyboard until it falls asleep
[04:15] <blackhawk> is working on a ntfs partition slow or it's just the normal,and would there be any problems to make my storage partition a ntfs one to share it between windows and ubuntu?
[04:15] <mgriffin> with usb keyboard, capslock does nothing with led
[04:15] <Hyperling> I have a folder which has some files and folders accidentally locked into root-only access, how do i undo this? :(
[04:16] <mgriffin> k, ill remove the service restart from irqbalance.postinst
[04:17] <mgriffin> and rsyslog..
[04:17] <lsheeba> Hyperling, access sudo nautilus , then right click that folder and change its attributes
[04:17] <xangua> !gksu | lsheeba Hyperling
[04:17]  * Cydd unzips pants
[04:17] <DasEi> Hyperling: to access as regular user : sudo chown -r $USER /path/to/folder or see man chmod, ask if unsure as this affects all subfolders in this path (and all files)
[04:17] <lsheeba> sorry xangua thanks for the update im from dapper days
[04:18] <alazare619> i have no idea why but im about to throw my laptop, no matter what i do i cant get smb or ftp to work right if i login with my main user account on the pc i can browse folders (SOME) on ftp but no matter what i cant do a dang thing with smb....
[04:18] <mgriffin> how do you 'start' upstart?
[04:18] <alazare619> im using file expert on my android phone to try and acess the shares / ftp
[04:18] <mgriffin> i am sure i need to mount some proc/sys stuff first
[04:18] <blade> alazare619,  samba has a gui now
[04:19] <lsheeba> alazare619, yes samba is GUI'ed =)
[04:19] <coz_> night all
[04:19] <jack^_> can somebody explain the following output to me? i am able to ping freenode, and nslookup freenode, but telnet gives 'unknown host'. wtf . http://fpaste.org/rcRN/
[04:19] <alazare619> blade,  i realize this but thats what im using...
[04:19] <alazare619> blade, it wont let anything acess idk why...
[04:20] <alazare619> blade,  only way ive even got some things networked was through ftp and it wasnt even working properly
[04:20] <mgriffin> oh well. ill keep banging on it, rsyslog and irqbalance are now ^ii but no mousey
[04:20] <blade> alazare619, as far as i know samba's gui is the best one as for ease of use
[04:20] <ryty_> has anyone tried linux 3.0 yet in Ubuntu?
[04:21] <blade> alazare619, not sure why it would not work not really many settings to it
[04:21] <Hyperling> lsheeba xangia DasEi: Thanks guys :)
[04:21] <JayWalker_> Is there a way I can disable my internet connection, but not my local network connection or the connection of other computers on my network?
[04:21] <lsheeba> np =
[04:21] <alazare619> blade,  i know this its confusing when i try and login from file expert using my android phone to my smb share it says cannot acess this folder...
[04:21] <ryty_> JayWalker_, remove your default gateway
[04:21] <wols_> JayWalker_: yes. don't set a defaultroute
[04:22] <lsheeba> alazare619, try with opera browser in ur android
[04:22] <DasEi> JayWalker_: seperate nics ? else can use hosts aloow btw deny or iptables
[04:22] <alazare619> can opera open smb?
[04:22] <wols_> alazare619: no. it's a webbrowser
[04:22] <alazare619> lsheeba, thats what im thinking im trying to acess smb ... from my android phone and nothing is seeming to work right
[04:23] <wols_> alazare619: need better problem description to be able to help
[04:23] <lsheeba> alazare619, can u access ur files from ur LAN computers.>?
[04:23] <JayWalker_> how do I remove the gateway/don't set a default route?
[04:24] <jack^_> can somebody explain the following output to me? i am able to ping freenode, and nslookup freenode, but telnet gives 'unknown host'. wtf . http://fpaste.org/rcRN/  only happens on one machine in my house. O_O
[04:24] <ryty_> JayWalker_, to remove, sudo route del -net default
[04:25] <JayWalker_> and what when I want to have the internet connection restored?
[04:25] <alazare619> wols_,  heres the thing ive been attempting an smb share for awhile now from my laptop to my android phone the laptops ip is 192.168.1.7 (in the network) the android phone is 192.168.1.9 (in the network) ive installed samba went to system then samba and added a folder
[04:25] <alazare619> for the sake of making it easys wols_  the folder name was /home/alazare619/sd card backup
[04:25] <ryty_> JayWalker_, sudo dhclient3 eth0
[04:25] <blade> lsheeba, ok now i feel like an idiot.... the part i could not get around with the aticonfig.... i was not doing sudo command lol
[04:25] <alazare619> wols_,  added a user called smbuser for smb shares added that folder to allowed list blam
[04:26] <alazare619> wols_,  added the share on file expert an app for the android phone all the info
[04:26] <JayWalker_> thanks
[04:26] <lsheeba> we all been their blade
[04:26] <wols_> alazare619: what command did you run on android to mount the samba share?
[04:26] <alazare619> wols_,  says the folder cannot be accessed when attempting to login to the smb share
[04:26] <ryty_> JayWalker_, be aware, this removing of default route is not persistent across reboots
[04:26] <alazare619> wols_,  just used file expert off the android market
[04:26] <JayWalker_> oh ok
[04:27] <wols_> alazare619: try to mount the share on your ubuntu then
[04:27] <blade> lsheeba, thank you for not taking that opportunity to rub my face in it =)
[04:27] <JayWalker_> that's good :p
[04:27] <lsheeba> blade, np=
[04:27] <alazare619> wols_,  you mean mounting 127.0.0.1 user name smbuser pass smbpass?
[04:27] <wols_> alazare619: yes
[04:28] <wols_> alazare619: preferably in a cli tho
[04:28] <wols_> alazare619: you can also check your samba logs for errors
[04:28] <lsheeba> alazare619, use opera browser , some browsers wont be able to connect to 192.168.1.1 forexample my router , i cant access it from my nokia browser phone , i have to use opera
[04:28] <alazare619> wols_,  i dont know the terminal all that well gimme a sec
[04:29] <wols_> lsheeba: samba doesn't work with webbrowsers fyi
[04:29] <lsheeba> yes
[04:29] <lsheeba> he havent explained hes precise problem efficiently i had to grasp hes puzzles
[04:30] <lsheeba> any1 here knows programming , Thankyou in advanced if u reply
[04:31] <rww> lsheeba: programming in which language?
[04:31] <wols_> !anyone | lsheeba
[04:33] <rosstaylor> i can't get videos to play on ubuntu 11.04 please help
[04:33] <wols_> rosstaylor: which videos exactly?
[04:33] <lsheeba> i have a game launcher made for windows , it uses the same engine compatibility in running in linux forexample the game Quake3 , if u have it installed on ur windows drive u can just copy the files and add the Linux Quake3 launcher to execute it on the FS_Gamepath of < Quake3 > Dir in linux
[04:34] <rosstaylor> wols: not youtube, just regular videos
[04:34] <lsheeba> i'd like a launcher for linux to do so like The string can contain $DESTINATION which
[04:34] <lsheeba> will be replaced with the installation destination.
[04:34] <rosstaylor> wols: i think it's flash
[04:34] <lsheeba> postexec (no default, mustBeString)  any1?
[04:34] <blade> rosstaylor, what type of video like avi mgp what?
[04:34] <wols_> rosstaylor: youtube is flash. regular video are other formats like avi, mkv, mpg, etc. so what is it?
[04:34] <blade> yea
[04:34] <blade> lol
[04:34] <rosstaylor> how do i check
[04:35] <wols_> rosstaylor: tell us what file or url you want to watch
[04:35] <blade> rosstaylor, right click on the file and hit properties
[04:35] <wols_> lsheeba: your description doesn't make much sense at all
[04:35] <rosstaylor> it's flash
[04:35] <wols_> rosstaylor: what is the file extension?
[04:36] <lsheeba> any1 has a launcher ready which i can just edit the destination to the game that requires launching! is that enough clarity
[04:36] <rosstaylor> but it's flash 10.0
[04:36] <wols_> lsheeba: we call that a "shell". like bash. just run it inside your xterm
[04:36] <lsheeba> wols_, thats why i need a gaming industry | Programmer expert
[04:36] <xangua> rosstaylor: do you hav restricted-extras installed , or tried with vlv ¿
[04:36] <wols_> lsheeba: no you don't
[04:36] <xangua> vlc*
[04:36] <wols_> rosstaylor: is the video on a website?
[04:36] <lsheeba> i tried running it with /sh and i renamed the .exe to i386.run LOL i know i thught im living a dream!
[04:37] <rosstaylor> xangua: i did install the restricted extras
[04:37] <wols_> lsheeba: ever used WINE? that's the only way to run windows executables in linux.
[04:37] <blade> rosstaylor, are you using 11.4 x64 ubuntu
[04:37] <rosstaylor> wols: they're on random websites
[04:37] <lsheeba> i know , but this game can run in linux just requires a launcher only
[04:37] <lsheeba> to launch the engine ,
[04:38] <rosstaylor> i have this version installed You have version 10,3,162,29 installed
[04:38] <blade> wols_, they are flv files
[04:38] <Rigin> hi i want to know which file is taken to wxecute
[04:38] <wols_> lsheeba: no. the "engine" must be ported to linux. the engine is a binary program which runs under Windows or WINE _only_
[04:38] <rosstaylor> the latest version is 10.3.181.34?
[04:38] <wols_> !flash
[04:38] <lsheeba> ok my ubuntu center is lagged =/
[04:39] <wols_> Rigin: "wxecute" is what?
[04:39] <blade> rosstaylor,  open firefox and go to the tools/addons and search for flash aid
[04:39] <Rigin> execute which file from the package
[04:39] <wols_> Rigin: from what package?
[04:39] <blade> rosstaylor, install flash aid and it will fix your flash problems
[04:40] <Rigin> mozilla firefox
[04:40] <wols_> Rigin: why do you want to run this special firefox version?
[04:40] <lsheeba> wols_, the engins is ported to linux bro , the engine is quake IO , open source , Quake1 Quake2 + Quake3 is ported for linux , but requires a launcher , the launcher in loki's installer will install it automatically however , if i do so i will still not be able to edit that launcher to read fs_game path quakeX  , any idea if u have a launcher ready i can just edit the fs_gamepath
[04:41] <Rigin> i need to update my mozilla firefox
[04:41] <wols_> Rigin: why?
[04:42] <Rigin> to new version
[04:42] <A-KO^> Howdy. with 11.04 I'm having trouble getting the Nvidia drivers to work. It says the driver is activated but not in use. The driver is set to "nvidia" in xorg.conf, but but glx gears aren't working properly. 7600GT, bit older. And xrandr doesn't work properly but don't have the error off hand at the moment. Any help?
[04:42] <wols_> Rigin: that doesn't answer my question why you need to update your firefox. please answer it
[04:42] <xangua>  !fx5 | Rigin
[04:42] <wols_> A-KO^: check your Xorg.0.log why it doesn't load
[04:43]  * rww facepalms
[04:43] <rosstaylor> i installed flash aid but it didn't wokr
[04:43] <lsheeba> wols_, QuakeX files is exactly like Quake3 files , if u have it installed on ur windows , u can copy paste it in ur Linux and put in the launcher made for Linux and it will run the game becasue the pak files can read both ways in linux/windows , the thing i really need is the same thing , a launcher but editing the parameter destination to QuakeX/baseq3 instead of Quake3/baseq3
[04:44] <A-KO^> wols_: according to Xorg.0.log, the module is loaded and not throwing an error.
[04:44] <blade> rosstaylor, did you run it?
[04:44] <blade> rosstaylor after install?
[04:44] <wols_> A-KO^: please paste the log and the output of glxinfo please
[04:44] <lsheeba> hm
[04:44] <rosstaylor> blade: how
[04:44] <A-KO^> wols_: whole log or will grep nvidia work?
[04:45] <wols_> A-KO^: whole log please. from glxinfo the first few lines are enough
[04:45] <blade> rosstaylor, on your firefox ... right side and the end of your menu bar you should see the flash icon it's red.... click on it
[04:45] <lucas49> what is the name of the messaging system Linux? example, shows empathy when someone connects to the msn. would dbus?
[04:45] <wols_> blade: why do you assume he has no flash installed already?
[04:46] <xangua> lucas49: notify-osd
[04:46] <xangua> the litle black pop ups
[04:46] <lucas49> xangua: yes
[04:46] <blade> wols_, i dont assume he has no flash installed i think it's the 32 bit and he is on a 64bit system is my guess and that is a known issue for flash
[04:47] <wols_> xangua: and these are using what protocol to do their magic?
[04:47] <lsheeba> ok i think i have a work around figured out thanks wols_  just by talking to u my ideas came together thanks for ur communication
[04:47] <lucas49> xangua: thanks
[04:47] <xangua> wols_: '¿¿
[04:47] <Nilu> histo, i am facing issues after upgrading to 10.10 ...
[04:47] <blade> wols_, the 32 bit will work just the wrapper is not the right one and the way i want about fixing it was to use flash aid and have helped 3 others since to do the same
[04:47] <rosstaylor> ok that worked, thank you!
[04:47] <rosstaylor> i love you all
[04:47] <lsheeba> il get the quake3 installer linux version installed , make 2 copies of quake X folder , steal the launchers of the quake3 and renaming X to 3 , and editing parameters of the engine pakpool
[04:48] <blade> rosstaylor, your welcome
[04:49] <blade> wols_, 4 now
[04:49] <blade> =)
[04:49] <amanforindia> hey...
[04:50] <fugdacopz> haha
[04:50] <wols_> blade: going outside the packaging system randomly is a stupid idea. just guess what happens after the next aptitude upgrade
[04:50] <fugdacopz> bad idea
[04:50] <root_> Hello,Every One
[04:50] <amanforindia> there is a problem with my mic configuration
[04:50] <fugdacopz> root_, that msg was directed towards you
[04:51] <root_> I'm from China.
[04:51] <wols_> root_: he means using IRC as root user is very dangerous
[04:51] <amanforindia> there's a lot of disturbance
[04:51] <blade> wols_, well i would hope that since it's a known issue and that fix came right from adobe they will have it fixed by then
[04:51] <amanforindia> what to do?
[04:51] <root_> This is VM
[04:51] <root_> VirtualBox
[04:52] <obscurant1st> i am using thunderbird as my email client. I have reached the maximum email I can in the server. So is there anyway to download all of them as a bckup?
[04:52] <A-KO^> wols_: http://pastebin.com/sEPw0jZP < for all intents to me it looks like it's working...
[04:52] <wols_> obscurant1st: depends on the server and what protocols it offers. thunderbird can use pop3 or imap
[04:52] <TheCyph3r> I'm sure they're all saved to a folder within the Thunderbird folder
[04:52] <root_> What'are you from?
[04:53] <wols_> A-KO^: it is working. what makes you think otherwise?
[04:53] <xangua> root_: this is an ubuntu channel support only, do you have a support question'¿
[04:53] <wols_> root_: do you have ubuntu support related problems? this channel is not a normal chat channel but for ubuntu tech support only
[04:54] <root_> Oh,I don't have question,sorry
[04:54] <obscurant1st> wols_, yeah imap. but how can I download all the emails?
[04:54] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi all the text in webpages opened with mozilla does not appear any more
[04:54] <YankDownUnder> root_, Did you know that by logging onto IRC as the "root" user, you have just opened your system up to hijacking - and as well, it's actually rather rude to do anything online as "root" ??
[04:55] <TheCyph3r> lol
[04:55] <A-KO^> wols_: http://pastebin.com/sTfmKLas
[04:55] <YankDownUnder> ...thought so...
[04:56] <A-KO^> you know
[04:56] <A-KO^> I Just log on as root and change irrsi's conf ;)
[04:56] <wols_> A-KO^: normal. nvidia drivers don't support xrandr. nvidia-settings or such to configure multiple monitors and such
[04:56] <blade> some little kid is sitting at a computer with tears in his little eyes now... that was so mean
[04:56] <A-KO^> ahh wols_
[04:56] <A-KO^> hm okay.
[04:56] <A-KO^> thanks
[04:56] <YankDownUnder> A-KO^, Mate, until you actually realise the danger, go right ahead...however, beware...
[04:57] <th0r> YankDownUnder: is that another ubuntu-ism?
[04:57] <A-KO^> YankDownUnder: I am fully aware of the ideas of separation of privilege.
[04:57] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi i run ubuntu 10.10 with Firefox 3.6.18 and all the text in webpages such as google does not appear any more, it isnt there. there's white rectangles instead. help?
[04:57] <A-KO^> anyways
[04:57] <A-KO^> thanks wols_ for the help
[04:57] <A-KO^> wols_: essentially we're trying to run an entire system in portrait mode--and a lot of stuff hates it
[04:57] <YankDownUnder> Some lessons are harder learned - especially when you have a system that has been compromised along with all the user data that's on that system. AND you're the one that's liable for it.
[04:57] <wols_> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: looks like you are missing fonts
[04:58] <xangua> !fx5 | LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd
[04:58] <rww> xangua: What does that have to do with anything?
[04:59] <wols_> rww: if something is broken, install a new version! fixes everything. AND cures warts!
[04:59] <xangua> just giving the oportunity to update his fx rww
[04:59] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> wols_: yesterday i added some fonts, but i didnt delete any, so what do i do?
[04:59] <xangua> and see if the problem persist
[05:00] <rww> xangua: I'd prefer it if you did actual diagnosis instead of recommending that someone upgrade to an unofficial, unsupported PPA.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: do you get no fonts in firefox?
[05:01] <Lasers> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: PrintScreen. I love me some screenshots.
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> Lasers, http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/992/2372011screenshot.jpg
[05:02] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: hi, exactly. I mean there's "file, edit, view" etc but for example if i go to google, there's no search botton or "web, images" etc
[05:03] <Lasers> YankDownUnder: Android.vbox? o.O
[05:03] <YankDownUnder> Lasers, Yeah...Android x86 in a box...(sucks, but it's fun to muck with)
[05:05] <Lasers> YankDownUnder: Ah. Cool. I like your Mac. ._>
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: I've heard of this on launchpad but i have no idea exactly what the fix was. I was something to do with font rendering settings either in ubuntu or in firefox. I don't use firefox so can't comment there but there is in ubuntu. You could have a play and/or try find the post as a different user or pc
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> Lasers, Gnome2 + compiz + emerald + Cairo-dock = "Nearly Mac"
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> People still use emerald? Yikes
[05:06] <Nilu> hello, am having issues after upgrading to ubuntu 10.10 ... apparently, when i log in as normal user, opening any app results in flickering of the window, but if i log in as root, it starts to fork file managers infinitely, and that opening any other app results in infinite fork of the app ...
[05:06] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, Yes. BTW, it's a recent compile. Ha.
[05:07] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: yeah, i would do that but the thing is I can't read it :D
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: use a different user, it may help
[05:08] <iDRINKbLEACH> Hello, I just installed 11.04 on my desktop and when it restarted it stayed stuck n "Boot from Cd :"
[05:09] <atc3030|TICKED> i have an ubuntu server that got hacked and im looking to redo it. however, i want it more secure. could you guys please direct me to where i need to go?
[05:09] <iDRINKbLEACH> I have two harddrives, I installed it on a brand new drive sdb0, does it have to install the boot on sda??
[05:10] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: i only have this computer and it won't work from another user
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: sure but the code you compiled is 3 years without an update. Its unmaintained
[05:10] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, no
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: make another user....
[05:10] <atc3030|TICKED> i have an ubuntu server that got hacked and im looking to redo it. however, i want it more secure. could you guys please direct me to where i need to go?
[05:11] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: i did, it won't work.......
[05:11] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, ;) ...well, suits *my* particular purposes, eh? Hehehhe
[05:11] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: thaz the first thing i tried
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: your OS can store thousands of users. Did you really think a new OS would only support one user??
[05:11] <iDRINKbLEACH> jack^_ I inserted cd rom and restarted my computer and it went directly to ubuntu
[05:11] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> ActionParsnip: are u reading what i said? o_O
[05:11] <vikapi> iDRINKbLEACH: will it get fixed if in bios, u change the 1st boot device to from sda to sdb??
[05:12] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, if you're trying to boot to your cdrom, you'll need to adjust the bios to boot from that media
[05:12] <Nilu> andyl, also the update manager is gone ...
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: your call. Emerald is very dead
[05:12] <ryty_> has anyone had luck with the Marvell 9128 raid chipset?
[05:12] <ryty_> aka Highpoint RocketRaid R640
[05:12] <atc3030|TICKED> no one can help me?
[05:12] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, you might run this script and pastebin the generated text file for more information. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:13] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, info for us to help you.
[05:13] <iDRINKbLEACH> jack^_ I didn't even add new drive to boot order, it goes from CD rom to drive 0 (the original drive c:\)
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: you may need to manipulate gconf from tty1. I cannot read while i type, the input UI covers all the screen
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: are all browsers affected
[05:14] <wols_> atc3030|TICKED: did you run a php based website on your server
[05:14] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/ubuntu-11-04-fix-enable-emerald-themes-for-compiz-fusion-window-borders-title-bars/
[05:14] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, what're you trying to do exactly? boot from cdrom? if so, you need to set the bios to boot from cdrom. if not, point it at your boot disk. hard disk 0 for sda and hard disk 1 for sdb
[05:14] <atc3030|TICKED> apache file repo and starting a website in html/php
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: I've used emerald dude.
[05:15] <vikapi> jack^_: will it work if boot order is changed from sda to sdb in bios??
[05:15] <vikapi> jack^_: he might ve installd the boot loader in the sdb..
[05:15] <iDRINKbLEACH> nit-wit can't do pastbin, the computer that I am installing 11.04 has no wifi, ubuntu does not recognize my card yet.
[05:15] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, I'm a die hard. Until there's an easier to way to setup "shading" a window with a roll of the mousewheel, I'll stick with it...
[05:16] <wols_> iDRINKbLEACH: yes grub needs to be installed to the harddrive the BIOS boots from first. this is usually /dev/sda
[05:16] <jack^_> vikapi, the machine will need to boot from whatever disk has the grub installed to the MBR
[05:16] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, ^
[05:16] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, okay, but that script will seperate the wheat from the chaffe, use a thumb  to transfer from that computer be creative.
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: your call dude. I use openbox. Does it with doubleclick :)
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> YankDownUnder: could suggest the functionality on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[05:18] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ jack^_ nit-wit In the "allocate drive space" screen I should selecte "/dev/sda/ ATA ST3160812AS (160 GB)" thatis my original "C;\)
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> ActionParsnip, There is a way to do the exact same thing by using gconf-editor to change the gwd settings...
[05:19] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, ok. if you selected sda as yoru boot drive, it will boot from that drive o_O
[05:19] <lsheeba> q
[05:19] <lsheeba> `q
[05:19] <lsheeba> `
[05:19] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ jack^_ nit-wit In the "allocate drive space" screen I should selecte "/dev/sda/ ATA ST3160812AS (160 GB)" thatis my original "C;\) Under the "Device for boot loader installation"
[05:20] <jack^_> ok
[05:20] <iDRINKbLEACH> jack^_ it will boot from sda but all the "stuff" can be on sdb?
[05:20] <wols_> iDRINKbLEACH: are you installing ubuntu on a usb drive on a netbook?
[05:20] <jack^_> iDRINKbLEACH, sure
[05:21] <wols_> jack^_: if /boot is on /dev/sdb and is a removable usb device, he will get problems, no "sure" there...
[05:21] <jack^_> wols_, what?
[05:21] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ I am installing on a desktop from cd rom
[05:22] <wols_> iDRINKbLEACH: sda and sdb are internal drives?
[05:23] <iDRINKbLEACH> jack^_ I tried doing that and it prompter "no root file system is defined" "Please correct this from the partitioning menu"
[05:23] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_
[05:23] <jack^_> the only problem i see with boot being on a flash drive is that if you remove it you'll lose boot
[05:23] <wols_> jack^_: you lose your bootloader too. which is kinda bad...
[05:23] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ yes, sda 160gb, and sda internal 1tb
[05:23] <jack^_> wols_, indeed
[05:24] <_leif> Does anybody know how to distinguish an Ubuntu Server installation from a Desktop one (from the command line). I guess they differ in their package source lists...
[05:24] <wols_> !fixgrub > iDRINKbLEACH
[05:24] <llutz_> _leif: they don't, just different default packages
[05:25] <wols_> _leif: they don't. only difference is what packages you install. in short, not possible to distinguish (one can easily install ubuntu server and then later install X and gnome on it)
[05:26] <xiaohdtut> hi
[05:26] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ sdb is divided under several partitions. /dev/sdb, /dev/sdb1 (ext) 50000mb, /dev/sdb2 swap 3999mb, /dev/sdb7 ext4 99998, and /dev/sdb8 ext4 202515
[05:26] <xiaohdtut> any body here?
[05:27] <rahul> hello
[05:27] <iDRINKbLEACH> ubutto thanks
[05:27] <_leif> llutz_: Thanks. The difference is 3-year vs. 5-year support though, so I wonder how the package manager recognizes that.
[05:27] <iDRINKbLEACH> isn't ubuttu a bot??
[05:27] <iDRINKbLEACH> i mean ubottu
[05:27] <Logan_> !thanks | iDRINKbLEACH
[05:27] <rahul> does anyone know how to launch Citrix Xen App for 11.04
[05:29] <rahul> I have a lenova laptop, installed Citrix ICA client with lib
[05:30] <rahul> but when I try to connect remotely via Mozilla to the office, Citrix Client "Plugin" does not launch
[05:30] <iDRINKbLEACH> wols_ I guess what I really need is instructions on how to install 11.04 on a two harddrive system.
[05:30] <alazare619> anyone know what window manager / desktop enviorment linux mint debian edition is?
[05:32] <iDRINKbLEACH> ubottu I am reading the article but I don't see how this helps during an initial install process
[05:34] <iDRINKbLEACH> does the boot partition have to be in sda???
[05:37] <FIrefly> hello?
[05:38] <lsheeba> sadly i am upset
[05:38] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, how old is the computer is the second drive a slave?
[05:39] <FIrefly> Um - can anyone help me? I need to save the contents of tty1 - I ran an fsck on my disk, and it printed a whole list of errors - most of which ran out of screen, but i'd like to save it so i can post on the forums. I tried screendump, but it only saves the visible part of tty1. How do I save the whole thing?
[05:39] <lsheeba> i tried running the game it with the diffrent launcher the game screen was black i had alot of work in background , i clicked CONTROL ALT F2 , ps aux to find the process to kill it but sadly the list was long!!!!!! i had to restart gdm by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart , now everything the way i was multitasking was gone!!!!!!!! thats the big MARK for Linux problem in the market !
[05:40] <lsheeba> if it was windows Control alt delete is suffice
[05:40] <nit-wit> lol
[05:40] <Dreamubuntu> I have install ubunut 11.04 succesfully
[05:40] <iDRINKbLEACH> nit-wit dell e521 about 4-5 years old. new 1tb drive is slave
[05:41] <Dreamubuntu> but i want move the bar in left how can i do that ?
[05:41] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, is that where ubuntu is
[05:41] <Logan_> Dreamubuntu: You can't move the dock in Unity.
[05:41] <lsheeba> oh man , Linux will die if they dont have a magical solution like control alt delete , ( CTRL + ALT + F2 ) is not the answer to the world!
[05:42] <lsheeba> ps aux the list goes on and i cant scroll up in the VN dialog ( AKA ) CMD screen
[05:42] <andresmh> so I am getting this error when doing apt-get update W: GPG error: http://downloads.skewed.de maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 04C66126D3E62840
[05:42] <Dreamubuntu> so any way to hide it
[05:42] <iDRINKbLEACH> nit-wit do I have to install "/boot" on sda (c:\ master) and put all other files on the sdb (the new slave drive) Originally I tried to install everything on sdb (slave)
[05:42] <Dreamubuntu> and add panel in down
[05:42] <Dreamubuntu> like old ubuntu
[05:42] <nit-wit> lsheeba, I guess the large hadron collider better close now.
[05:42] <lsheeba> im getting a hardon to windows
[05:43] <DasEi> andresmh: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys   04C66126D3E62840
[05:43] <Dreamubuntu> Guys Any way to delte or move bar in unity
[05:43] <DasEi> andresmh: then update again
[05:43] <lsheeba> private message me il be away if u got an answer!
[05:43] <lsheeba> this is absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:43] <andresmh> where did you get that hexcode DasEi ?
[05:43] <lsheeba> afk now...
[05:44] <DasEi> andresmh: the string ? errm, your post ?!
[05:44] <Dreamubuntu> Any Way To Hide Or Delete Bar In Unity ?
[05:44] <andresmh> ah doh
[05:44] <Dreamubuntu> or move it
[05:44] <andresmh> i was following the instructions here it is not here http://projects.skewed.de/graph-tool/wiki/GraphToolDownload
[05:44] <sond> ubuntu 10.04.3 server here... will grub "work" with LVM on top of Raid1 or do i need a non-LVM boot partition ?
[05:44] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, generally ubuntu will boot from the drive it is installed from, but it has to be able to be first in line in the bios or a key promprt to bring uop the boot menu. A sslave wont go first. You could trandfer the ubuntu to the sda and put the grub in its mbr.  Do you have a windows setuo on sda if so hyou could use easybcd probably, which will run on visya and W7 not XP.
[05:45] <nit-wit> bad spelling sorry.;(
[05:45] <Dreamubuntu> any helpz
[05:45] <nit-wit> Dreamubuntu, the top panel?
[05:46] <Dreamubuntu> no the bar
[05:46] <Dreamubuntu> in unity
[05:46] <Dreamubuntu> also i want add thing in top panel ican't
[05:46] <nit-wit> Dreamubuntu, on the leftside?
[05:46] <Dreamubuntu> it's not like old ubunut
[05:46] <Dreamubuntu> yes
[05:46] <jcreek> dreamubuntu, re-boot your system. The first screen is your i.d screen. Click on it. The second screen is to enter your password. At the bottom of the screen you will see , Ubuntu. click on Ubuntu and a menu will pop up. Click on Ubuntu Classic. This will set your desktop to Gnome, untill you change it.
[05:46] <nit-wit> Dreamubuntu, when you boot in there is a classic desktop option in the bottom bar after you choose the user
[05:46] <csdserver> Dreamubuntu, don't reboot, just log out
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> Logging onto freenode is quick today. Like it :)
[05:47] <Dreamubuntu> but can i remove unity ?
[05:47] <Dreamubuntu> from ubuntu
[05:47] <iDRINKbLEACH> nit-wit I am running winxp, In the "allocate drive space" window I assigned and allocated all the partitions on sdb. On the bottom of that window it has a drop down window for "Device for boot loader installation" should I leave that on "/dev/sda/ ATA st3160812As (160GB) (the master)?
[05:47] <csdserver> why would you want to?  it takes up like 500k of data
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: unity 2d is going to replace classic in oneiric, just so you know
[05:48] <jcreek> Dreamubuntu, that will do away with Unity.
[05:48] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, now we are getting into an area I wont touch without the bootscript.
[05:48] <Dreamubuntu> unity suck
[05:48] <Dreamubuntu> idon't like gnome3 and unity
[05:48] <Dreamubuntu> old gnome is good
[05:49] <DasEi> Dreamubuntu: taste, but lucid is :
[05:49] <DasEi> !lts
[05:49] <yagoo> !ltsp
[05:49] <yagoo> aha
[05:49] <Dreamubuntu> iknow but's it hang all time
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> iDRINKbLEACH: if that is you normal bootable drive then i'd say yes.
[05:49] <Dreamubuntu> ubunut 10.04 is slow in my computer
[05:49] <iDRINKbLEACH> nit-wit it hit the "install" button. worst case scenario, I re-format the drive in winxp and start over, wish me luck.
[05:50] <DasEi> Dreamubuntu: lucid hangs ? ever checked the logs for reason or used a newer kernel ?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: then use a different desktop environment. There is more than gnome
[05:50] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, install grub to both drives, at the start /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[05:50] <Dreamubuntu> how can i install openbox ?
[05:51] <nit-wit> iDRINKbLEACH, okay good luck.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Dasei: lucid desktop is eol when Natty is eol
[05:51] <Dreamubuntu> also there any way to hide unity bar ?
[05:51] <nit-wit> no
[05:51] <nit-wit> I think.
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: install it like any other application
[05:51] <iDRINKbLEACH> ActionParsnip thanks
[05:52] <yagoo> nit-wit, if you're not sure.. just say you're not sure.. very simple :)
[05:52] <DasEi> Dreamubuntu: sudo apt-get install openbox
[05:52] <iDRINKbLEACH> yagoo how do I put it on both drives
[05:52] <Dreamubuntu> like sudo apt-get install openbox
[05:52] <nit-wit> yagoo, shrug
[05:52] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, what part are u in the installation?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: unity settings are in ccsm
[05:52] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, if u cant do both now.. just do the master boot drive then..
[05:52] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, is linux spread across the two drives?
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: exactly, or use software centre
[05:52] <Dreamubuntu> ccsm ?
[05:52] <iDRINKbLEACH> I just selected a username and password and it is "saving installed packages...."
[05:52] <Dreamubuntu> where is that ccsm
[05:53] <iDRINKbLEACH> yagoo I just selected a username and password and it is "saving installed packages...."
[05:53] <Dreamubuntu> sorry guys for stupid question
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: press Alt+F2 and run it.
[05:53] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, linux is very flexible.. you can spread linux partitions any way you want.. but since you're new.. it would be easier to stick with one drive
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: its a new OS to you so its understandable
[05:55] <Dreamubuntu> yes it's like a new os
[05:55] <iDRINKbLEACH> yagoo thanks, but is is okay for loader to be on SDA and everything else to be on SDB?? also is loader = GRUB2??
[05:55] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, linux is very flexible..
[05:55] <mcurran> unity is garbage
[05:55] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, you just need to place grub first stage into /dev/sd<Master>
[05:56] <thewarren1> Hi
[05:56] <mcurran> ugliest default desktop i've seen yet
[05:56] <thewarren1> I m totally new
[05:56] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, which is the first drive bios boots into ?(/dev/sda ?)
[05:56] <Dreamubuntu> ccsm now work
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> iDRINKbLEACH: grub2 is the default bootloader. You can use anything else if you can install it (flexibility again)
[05:56] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, then it would be /dev/sda since its the first drive to boot from bios
[05:56] <mcurran> always install grub to native linux installed partition and change active partition as necessary, always best
[05:56] <mcurran> always
[05:56] <blade> with the aticonfig --initial command i get this message: Found fglrx primary device section
[05:56] <blade>  Unable to find any supported Screen sections
[05:57] <Dreamubuntu> ccsm not work
[05:57] <yagoo> mcurran, linux doesn't use the "active" partition flag
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:57] <mcurran> yes it does
[05:57] <yagoo> mcurran, show me the document link.
[05:57] <nit-wit> lol
[05:57] <mcurran> haha
[05:57] <iDRINKbLEACH> yagoo Houston we may have a problem, Ubuntu is spinning but nothing is happening, 3-4 minutes and no files are installing. ans yes bios is looking for cd first than sda
[05:57] <yagoo> mcurran, so you're wrong.
[05:57] <Dreamubuntu> ok then
[05:57] <mcurran> your telling me if you set your windows partition active and grub is installed on a second partition that grub will still boot?  your nuts
[05:58] <mcurran> booting an active partition has nothing to do with linux it's your bios kid
[05:58] <nit-wit> mcurran, thats haow mine is set up yagoo is correct.
[05:58] <yagoo> iDRINKbLEACH, well if cd is booted into you should um choose shutdown or try using bios 'esc' key to bring up menu at the very least
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> Mcurran: it doesn't, grub loads from mbr then boots the partitions from there
[05:58] <mcurran> not if you don't overwrite your mbr
[05:58] <yagoo> "<yagoo> mcurran, linux doesn't use the "active" partition flag"
[05:58] <yagoo> read that again young one.
[05:59]  * yagoo ignores the troll
[05:59] <mcurran> grub is a bootloader, mbr is a bootloader, a bootsector is irrelevant and your bios selects the active partition
[05:59] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, is there an easy way to change ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server?
[05:59] <yagoo> !ops mcurran trolling
[05:59] <mcurran> get it right people
[05:59] <Dreamubuntu> ican't install compiz-setting-manager
[05:59] <Dreamubuntu> it's give me error
[06:00] <Dreamubuntu> simple-ccsm not avilable
[06:00] <rww> yagoo: "is wrong" and "trolling" are not synonyms.
[06:00] <iDRINKbLEACH> yagoo I clicked on the the box and it is running through a series of packages so I will let it run. It is 2:00am here and I am spent. will let this run and visit it in the morning, thanks for your help (all of you) and goodnight!
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> KatronixSerf: if you add the bootoption: text    then no GUI will run. Same thing. If you have no need for GUI apps then uninstall xorg and the rest will be removed when you run: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:02] <mcurran> it's always comical to come to this channel and listen to people who think they know, and are totally out there.
[06:02] <rww> mcurran: offtopic cynicism to #ubuntu-offtopic, please :)
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: are you fully updated?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[06:03] <sbeck> Is there a way to send emails in kmail at a given time instead of just "later"? What I mean is the behaviour you can get in thunderbird by using this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/send-later-3/
[06:03] <semitones_> hey I just installed lubuntu, but I'm getting an error when I boot up: "error: out of disk. grub rescue> _" what can I do?
[06:03] <KatronixSerf> ActionParsnip, thanks
[06:03] <Dreamubuntu> ido logout but ican't see any other window manger
[06:03] <IdleOne> semitones: install grub
[06:04] <emman> can not get zoneminder to work on ubuntu, no video, need help
[06:04] <IdleOne> grub2*
[06:04] <Dreamubuntu> whats problem i install openbox how can i lunch it /?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: make sure you enable universe repo in software centre
[06:04] <jcreek> Dreamubuntu, Just re-boot.
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: log out, click username then select session in the bottom bar
[06:05] <semitones_> IdleOne, I just installed, shouldn't it already have grub2?
[06:05] <Jaded-Jacob> Has anyone ever had any problems with 'always on top' mode with VLC PLayer on 64bit ubuntu?
[06:05] <mcurran> I can't even get VLC to run
[06:06] <KatronixSerf> ActionParsnip, would that be put into the boot.cfg file?
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Jaded-Jacob: always been fine the few times i use it
[06:06] <mcurran> plus gnome and amd64 don't play nice with vlc, particularly it's mozilla plugin or any mozilla plugins for that matter
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> KatronixSerf: would what?
[06:06] <IdleOne> semitones: indeed it should but maybe something went wrong during the grub install...looking at a forum post about it now
[06:06] <IdleOne> semitones: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331730
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> mcurran: or just firefox in general ;-)
[06:07] <semitones_> IdleOne, thanks buddy
[06:07] <semitones_> :)
[06:07] <xgt001> hello i installed lxde in ubuntu 11.04... does lxde come with a dock by default?? as the openbox configuration does show some settings for dock
[06:07] <KatronixSerf> ActionParsnip, the bootoption: text
[06:08] <Mx03> hello!
[06:08] <semitones_> I'll try the chroot method if it will let me
[06:08] <Jaded-Jacob> I'm just about to reinstall ubuntu, but can't decide whether to use kde/gnome/LXDE
[06:08] <lucas49> hi!!
[06:08] <Jaded-Jacob> I know how to switch between them, but I'd rather not have to.
[06:08] <IdleOne> semitones: might be a fix on post #12
[06:08] <lucas49> i getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650432/ with pynotify + pyqt
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> KatronixSerf: you never edit grub.cfg that file is generated. It even says not to edit it in the file
[06:09] <Dreamubuntu> now  i in openbox
[06:09] <Dreamubuntu> i want to delete unity windows manager
[06:09] <Dreamubuntu> also all other windows manager
[06:09] <Jaded-Jacob> Nice, I like *Box window managers as well
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> KatronixSerf: you add them in the quotes with:  quiet splash    in /etc/default/grub   then run:  sudo update-grub
[06:10] <Jaded-Jacob> ActionParsnip: Cheers man, they must have fixed the bug since I last used it
[06:10] <KatronixSerf> ok
[06:10] <lucas49> anyone know why?
[06:11] <xgt001> does lxde have a dock by default?
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> xgt001: it uses lxpanel which is like gnome panel. A light dock example would be wbar
[06:12] <kleanchap> How do I add more apps to the apps bar on the left?  Do the icons shrink in size or do I need to create a another apps bar?
[06:13] <Dreamubuntu> ActionParsnip, How Can I Delete Other Windows Manger
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kleanchap: you can drag from dash or rightclick running apps to tell them to be kept
[06:13] <sbeck> Is there a way to send emails in kmail at a given time instead of just "later"? What I mean is the behaviour you can get in thunderbird by using this addon: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/send-later-3/
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: its an app like any other. I've never removed it myself so not sure what else it will also remove. I suggest caution
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Dreamubuntu: i use lxde+openbox+unity2d. Unity2d can easily be pulled out but i'm not sure how interwoven unity is
[06:18] <Dreamubuntu> ActionParsnip ,, i need to configure OpenBox
[06:18] <Dreamubuntu> No Thing In Menu
[06:18] <Dreamubuntu> Can give me any links
[06:18] <Dreamubuntu> help me for that ?
[06:19] <uw_> hi is anyone here familar with netboot (clients being ubuntu variety)
[06:19] <uw_> netboot as in pxe as some people call it
[06:20] <ubuntuguest> hi is there a way to backup my home folder folder from a live cd ?
[06:21] <aureianimus> so after running normal updates, it now says i don't have the required hardware for unity, how do i discover the culprit and roll back the specific package?
[06:22] <ubuntuguest> I can backup everything as root from the live cd but the permissions of every file changes to "root",
[06:22] <ubuntuguest> I am accessing the drive from a live cd now.
[06:22] <ubuntuguest> ty
[06:23] <ubuntuguest> (btw I have a 3rd drive to backup the files to, but my problem is that it changes the permissions of all the files to root, which I do not want)
[06:24] <compaq> hola
[06:24] <compaq> hello
[06:25] <xgt001> aureianimus: did u install xorg updates or kernel updates?
[06:26] <aureianimus> xgt001, i don't think so, but i don't know where to check that. Also, i'm running bumblebee, which i think updated the nvidia driver, so big chance that's it
[06:27] <xgt001> aureianimus: yes most likely, so u have to reinstall the nvidia driver
[06:27] <jcreek> Ubuntuguest, Try backing up your home folder to another flashdrive. You are stuck with root because you are running from a live disc.
[06:27] <xgt001> aureianimus: most likely the video driver has failed to build against the newer kernel
[06:27] <aureianimus> can i just force it back a version with synaptic?
[06:27] <ubuntuguest> thanks j
[06:27] <ubuntuguest> thanks jcreek
[06:28] <ubuntuguest> not sure what happened to this harddrive,
[06:29] <ubuntuguest> a bad connection caused the comuter to freeze then Ubuntu didn't want to bootup
[06:29] <semitones_> well I can get into the live cd and install grub, but when I boot I still get grub rescue
[06:29] <semitones_> oh well
[06:29] <ubuntuguest> (bad connection on the Harddrive)
[06:29] <semitones_> a task for tomorrow
[06:29] <ubuntuguest> ide
[06:29] <jcreek> Ubuntuguest, you are welcome. Tell me are you able to create files and save them in a live flash drive without any problem?
[06:29] <ubuntuguest> I am backing up to a 3rd drive
[06:29] <semitones_> gnite IdleOne
[06:30] <ubuntuguest> copying everything as root user
[06:35] <compaq> hola
[06:35] <compaq> aluien usando etterap
[06:35] <compaq> ??
[06:38] <gere> how can i send message to another pc in terminal using ubuntu
[06:38] <gere> ??
[06:39] <yagoo> gere, man talk
[06:40] <yagoo> !talk
[06:40] <gere> tnx yagoo
[06:40] <yagoo> gere, there's also "wall"
[06:40] <yagoo> gere, use "mesg y" "mesg n" to turn on/off
[06:43] <tripelb> is / my home directory? I want  to find .bashrc  it is no there
[06:44] <KM0201> no
[06:44] <KM0201> "/home" is your home directory
[06:44] <tripelb> oh wait, it's not I see home in there
[06:44] <DeezeNuts> having trouble installing firefox 5.0.1 on ubuntu
[06:44] <KM0201> "/" is your root directory
[06:44] <yagoo> tripelb, is the "root" of the filesystem.. the word "root" can also mean the "superuser" (superuser home is /root)
[06:44] <tripelb> KM0201, looking again
[06:44] <IdleOne> tripelb: nano ~/.bashrc
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> KM0201, almost /home/USERNAME is your home directory, or ~ for short.  tripelb
[06:45] <KM0201> ZykoticK9: well, yeah, good point
[06:45] <gere> @yagoo how can i use man talk?
[06:45] <tripelb> right zykes-
[06:45] <yagoo> tripelb, "/" is not "/root" (just to be sure i'm saying this :)
[06:45] <tripelb> right ZykoticK9
[06:45] <yagoo> tripelb, but "/" is "root of the filesystem"
[06:45] <yagoo> lol
[06:45] <KM0201> yagoo: no, but its the root filesystem.
[06:45] <yagoo> KM0201, too late.
[06:45] <KM0201> ah..
[06:45] <KM0201> i'm slow on the uptake tonight
[06:46] <tripelb> lifehacker has these nots how to get ubuntu hints.
[06:46] <IdleOne> gere: you would need to install "talk" apt-cache show talk
[06:46] <tripelb> "there's not root in ubuntu" tripelb recites the chatachism
[06:46] <DeezeNuts> I don't know how to install this tar.bz2 file
[06:46] <DeezeNuts> I forgot
[06:46] <DeezeNuts> for firefox 5 on ubuntu
[06:47] <yagoo> DeezeNuts, .tar.bz2 can only be extracted..
[06:47] <yagoo> DeezeNuts, unless whatever that's in them needs furthering reading.. maybe there's a thirdparty insatller within
[06:47] <Amivit> How do i route all traffic in ubuntu through tor ?
[06:47] <yagoo> DeezeNuts, just use ark..(gui for extracting tarballs)
[06:47] <yagoo> !tarball
[06:48] <DeezeNuts> thank you vagoo
[06:48] <yagoo> !tar
[06:48] <DeezeNuts> gnome it is
[06:48] <tripelb> help again. this says to add "ubuntu-server-tip " to the last line in my .bashrc but I dont think that's right (any more?)
[06:48] <jcreek> Amivit, Have you installed Vidalia?
[06:50]  * yagoo says if u have gnome apps as a preference but need to run KDE apps it's not problem-- except the kdelibraries would be installed-- hence you can run KDE apps on the gnome desktop
[06:50] <Amivit> jcreek, yes, but i dont want to configure specific apps to use the socks proxy, i want to globally route everything through Tor if thats somehow possible?
[06:50] <Amivit> To avoid any lleakage
[06:50] <yagoo> Amivit, you want to tunnely a torrent app?
[06:51] <yagoo> ,/tunnel)
[06:51] <yagoo> Amivit, those apps should have a socks proxy setting..
[06:51] <Amivit> yagoo, No, I just want the piece of mind of wether i will use skype, messenger, my browser or whatever software it should be, that it is through the TOR
[06:51] <tripelb> I did this -->  sudo apt-get install fortunes-ubuntu-server  <-- what did that do?
[06:51] <Amivit> Like a transparent gateway i would ugess its called
[06:52] <onebitxajax> *part
[06:52] <yagoo> !tor
[06:52] <yagoo> (use /msg ubottu if u need more query)
[06:52] <tripelb> Is that good info if you want to become a Tor bridge?
[06:52] <yagoo> no idea..
[06:52] <tripelb> thanks
[06:52] <yagoo> i've heard of tor before but never dwelved into it
[06:53] <yagoo> never used it..
[06:53] <tripelb> yagoo, ZykoticK9 idleone thanks for the basic help.
[06:53] <Amivit> I dont see how that bot can help me since my request is a bit specific
[06:53] <ZykoticK9> tripelb, "fortune" is a cli app that displays little messages (ususally when you log in), in this case, about ubuntu-server
[06:54] <gere> @IdleOne thank you
[06:54] <yagoo> Amivit, if u read it.. "Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's"
[06:54] <tripelb> ZykoticK9, ok how can I remove what I just did then?
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> tripelb, "sudo apt-get remove fortunes-ubuntu-server" will uninstall it?
[06:55] <Amivit> yagoo, but i dont have issues with what to install. I just want to know if it's possible to route 100% everything through tor transparantly to the apps running in the system.
[06:56] <jcreek> Amivit, I installed Vidalia last week, but haven't set it up yet. However, I ran it in Windows XP and all of my communications then went through it. It was slow, but secure. I am going to Tor and get their advice.
[06:56] <yagoo> Amivit, if install successfully, you should meet up with others who use TOR, you should be asking the other dude :p.. Tor is not a main thing i reckon
[06:56] <tripelb> ZykoticK9, seemed to work, thanks. (first uninstall)
[06:57] <tripelb> Amvit, I'm no expert but I think that's what tor does.
[06:57] <yagoo> I wouldn't trust tor for doing my online banking
[06:57] <yagoo> lol
[06:57] <tripelb> amvit, I just tried something and I think it's your preferred destination!! /join #tor
[06:58] <Amivit> jcreek, but after installing didnt u still have to coinfigure your browser etc., to use the proxy? Thats what I want to avoid. I want to somehow route everything through the proxy whether it be with iptables, or setting up a seperate computer and using that as the default gateway on ubuntu or something like that.
[06:58] <Amivit> thanks tripelb
[06:58] <yagoo> Amivit, i already answered that. You need to setup your apps. Those apps need to have that 'proxy' option..
[06:59] <yagoo> Amivit, this is the basic nature of a proxy server. The client's proxy settings need to be setup.
[06:59] <yagoo> with-tor or not-tor.. proxy is proxy
[07:00] <yagoo> (and if there's no proxy option with the app.. it's still possible to proxy the client but difficult to do so with other external helper tools)
[07:01] <Amivit> I think I understand now, thanks.
[07:01] <namelessinseatle> Greetings
[07:01] <namelessinseatle> what is an alternative to flashget for linux?
[07:01] <yagoo> namelessinseatle, booblashget :P
[07:01] <yagoo> (jk)
[07:02] <namelessinseatle> I need to download a file that's around 2GB
[07:02] <yagoo> namelessinseatle, list of software flashget site:wikipedia.org (google)
[07:02] <yagoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_download_managers
[07:03] <yagoo> that was the google 2nd result .. pretty good uh :)
[07:03] <not-really-human> i'm gonna be running Ubuntu in a VM (downloading now).  is Ubuntu much slower in VMWare
[07:03] <jcreek> Amivit , Yes, but it gave me a problem. Here is the thing for me. I have Firefox 5. When I ran it in Firefox before it was compatible. It is not in Firefox 5. Previously I jus went to mozilla add-ons and downloaded  Privoxy, Tor Button, and Vidalia . I had to change the proxy settings but I could get these at Privoxy site. Now I have to figure out if I  should  use Firefox or Chromium.
[07:04]  * yagoo namelessinseatle is lost in seattle
[07:06] <noobish> Can you drop to a root shell in the ubuntu-server cd like you can in the alternate desktop cd? I need to setup swraids on top of swraids and the curses partition editor only allows configuring physical devices as raid components...
[07:07] <kaiyin> how can i backup a list of all packages on the system for the purpose of restoration?
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> !clone | kaiyin
[07:09] <not-really-human> i'm about to try linux for the first time in years
[07:09] <not-really-human> in a VM only, though
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> not-really-human, just FYI, but Unity won't work in VMWare
[07:10] <not-really-human> oh
[07:10] <not-really-human> how comes
[07:10] <sbeck> 3d acceleration
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> not-really-human, VMWare's 3d support is poor
[07:10] <not-really-human> i see
[07:10] <not-really-human> i guess i can run Gnome though
[07:11] <not-really-human> i wonder whether compiz willw ork
[07:11] <not-really-human> will work
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> not-really-human, no compiz
[07:11] <not-really-human> oh.  never mind
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> not-really-human, FYI #2 VirtualBox has some support for both
[07:11] <sbeck> not-really-human, why don't you try it from the live cd?
[07:12] <not-really-human> i'm not sure that i have any spare CDs
[07:12] <not-really-human> and it'd be nice running it at the same time as windows
[07:12] <sbeck> Ah, okay-
[07:12] <not-really-human> Windows*
[07:12] <Byan> anyone here have suspend working with fglrx?
[07:14] <not-really-human> damn, ubuntu is compressed from 16GB to 800MB
[07:14] <adurodea> doubt it
[07:15] <adurodea> and even if it were thats not the greatest...
[07:15] <not-really-human> you can doubt all youw ant
[07:15] <adurodea> theres been video/audio compression of up to 10k:1
[07:15] <adurodea> probably more
[07:15] <adurodea> how is it compressed 16GB to 800MB?
[07:15] <not-really-human> i wasn't aware there was a competition
[07:16] <noobish> yes, it is possible to drop to shell in ubuntu-server install and skip steps
[07:16] <skp-bt> Hello All !!!
[07:17] <celthunder> i don't think it's compressed either but who knows
[07:17] <celthunder> skp-bt: hi
[07:19] <blade> need some help understanding the xorg.conf file
[07:19] <bazhang> blade, did you write one?
[07:19] <blade> bazhang, i used aticonfig -- and it did
[07:20] <bazhang> blade, whats the question
[07:21] <blade> ok a short rundown i have 2 ati cards both with a monitor finaly got them to both show up but now if i try to change anything in cccle it wacks out so i need to edit my xorg file so i can tell it what monitor is on what adapter
[07:21] <suraj> Hello guys, I am having a problem in my HP-DV7-4285dx laptop with ubuntu, in my touchpad right click doesn't work at all. I have tried 10.04, 10.10 and currently running 11.04 but still the same result.
[07:21] <blade> but i dont know enough about the xorg file to do so
[07:21] <suraj> does anyone know what might be the problem?
[07:23] <jcreek> suraj, have you tried to plug in a mouse and see if it does not work?
[07:24] <blade> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/UEvdU2mX so you can see what i see
[07:27] <skp-bt> please tell me how to fix the problem with the updating of ubuntu 10.04 on 11
[07:28] <kenneth_> Okay, I have to ask... how did I get here?
[07:28] <nit-wit> skp-bt, the problem is?
[07:28] <bazhang> kenneth_, what distro
[07:28] <blade> kenneth_, one ckick at a time?
[07:29] <kenneth_> I couldn't tell you.  I'm enrolled in a week long linux class and I have been struggled this entire time trying to figure all of this out.
[07:29] <blade> anyone know enough about xorg.config to help me tweak some settings?
[07:30] <bazhang> !upgrade | skp-bt
[07:30] <skp-bt> Can not update hangs sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:30] <bazhang> skp-bt, dist-upgrade does not do that
[07:31] <bazhang> skp-bt, pastebin the actual errors to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <MACscr> how can i install firefox 4 on my natty system? i already uninstall FF5
[07:31] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | skp-bt
[07:32] <Yukinoroh> help! I can't get sound from a game that uses alsa
[07:32] <ZykoticK9> Yukinoroh, what game?
[07:32] <blade> bazhang, did you have a chance to look at that file?
[07:32] <Yukinoroh> ZykoticK9: mugen
[07:32] <Yukinoroh> for linux
[07:33] <ZykoticK9> Yukinoroh, have you tried "pasuspender mugen" if mugen is the executable name?
[07:34] <Yukinoroh> ZykoticK9: I just tried, doesn't work... looks like these suspenders made the trousers fall as well
[07:34] <bazhang> blade, yes, but I use only intel and nvidia, wont be much help to you sorry
[07:34] <skp-bt> ok I just Sach video card from the sis mirage 3D graphic
[07:34] <insmod> does anyone know a msn client that can do webcam amsn cannot anymore
[07:34] <Yukinoroh> it says "Initializing sound...failed to init hardware."
[07:35] <blade> bazhang, no matter
[07:35] <blade> bazhang, what i need to know has nothing to do with ati... i need to move some settings is all
[07:35] <LinuxMan> why is wine so buggy? barley works!
[07:35] <Yukinoroh> I tried padsp as well, no result
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> Yukinoroh, try "padsp mugen"
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> doh
[07:35] <Yukinoroh> well the game gives OSS, ALSA, ESD, or AUTO as options for sound, but none work
[07:35] <Yukinoroh> tried them all
[07:37] <blade> bazhang, such as position of monitors to tell them what adapter to be on
[07:37] <skp-bt> Thank you all, I fixed the problem
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> Yukinoroh, there's a post in ubuntuforums that suggests trying "alsamixer" and enabling everything.  I got nothing, best of luck.
[07:39] <insmod> Yukinoroh; run aoss then app
[07:40] <insmod> Yukinoroh; eg aoss gtick
[07:40] <Yukinoroh> ZykoticK9: I don't have much in there
[07:40] <Yukinoroh> insmod: no result
[07:40] <insmod> Yukinoroh; is it installed
[07:40] <Yukinoroh> insmod: yes it is
[07:41] <Yukinoroh> well maybe I can try to set it on OSS other than AUTO
[07:41] <blade> need help tweaking settings in xorg.conf
[07:41] <insmod> Yukinoroh; then it has to be pulseaudio
[07:41] <Yukinoroh> insmod: no result with aoss either
[07:41] <insmod> Yukinoroh; then it has to be pulseaudio
[07:42] <no_face> morning, could anyone tell me the package name for the deb installer that comes with ubuntu 10.4 please
[07:42] <Yukinoroh> ZykoticK9: I have master, pcm, s/pdif and beep in alsamixer, master and pcm are 100%, I can't do anything with S/PDIF and honestly I don't think beep can have an effect...
[07:43] <kenneth_> How do I verify that CUPS is running?
[07:43] <nit-wit> no_face, gdebi
[07:43] <Yukinoroh> insmod: I guess so, how can I troubleshoot that?
[07:43] <no_face> thank you nit-wit
[07:43] <nit-wit> no_face, no prob.
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> kenneth_, "ps aux | grep cupsd"
[07:43] <blade> need help tweaking settings in xorg.conf
[07:43] <insmod> kenneth_: login to the webinterface
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> Yukinoroh, sorry, i have no idea.  good luck.
[07:44] <insmod> Yukinoroh; ps -aux |grep pulseaudio
[07:44] <insmod> Yukinoroh; is it there
[07:45] <trismegistus> Are there devs/contributers of ubuntu here? If there are I just wanted to tell you thanks for the awesome work on the OS!
[07:45] <Yukinoroh> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[07:45] <Yukinoroh> 1000      3245  0.1  0.1 359444  6264 ?        S<sl 12:54   0:21 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[07:45] <Yukinoroh> 1000      3249  0.0  0.1 115836  3936 ?        Sl   12:54   0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper
[07:45] <Yukinoroh> 1000      5304  0.0  0.0  93552  1064 pts/0    S+   16:44   0:00 grep --color=auto pulseaudio
[07:45] <insmod> Yukinoroh; that's it then now use pavucontrol - a gui to control it
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> insmod, see that first warning line in Yukinoroh flood?  Don't use - with ps
[07:46] <insmod> typo
[07:46] <blade> need help tweaking settings in xorg.conf
[07:46] <Compi> Hi everyone, I am new to Ubuntu. Running Ubuntu Studio 11.04 and need some help. I installed Qtel as per the instructions on the internet but need some help with the sound for Qtel.
[07:47] <lsheeba> oh man , Linux will die if they dont have a magical solution like control alt delete , ( CTRL + ALT + F2 ) is not the answer to the world!
[07:47] <ZykoticK9> blade, provide more information, your request is far to broad.  good luck, i think it has something to do with ATI so I won't help.
[07:47] <Yukinoroh> insmod: what should I check for in pavucontrol ?
[07:47] <lsheeba> i tried running the game it with the diffrent launcher the game screen was black i had alot of work in background , i clicked CONTROL ALT F2 , ps aux to find the process to kill it but sadly the list was long!!!!!! i had to restart gdm by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart , now everything the way i was multitasking was gone!!!!!!!! thats the big MARK for Linux problem in the market !
[07:47] <bazhang> lsheeba, thats more than enough
[07:48] <bazhang> Compi, what precisely is qtel
[07:48] <lsheeba> im upset! bazhang
[07:48] <llutz_> lsheeba: its not linux fault if you're going to kill the wrong stuff
[07:48] <lsheeba> all my multitasking is gone
[07:48] <bazhang> lsheeba, take complaints to the appropriate channel
[07:48] <insmod> Yukinoroh; run the prog then look at output devices
[07:48] <Compi> Bazhang, Qtel is an amateur radio softwarew package for Echolink.
[07:48] <trijntje_oneiric> lsheeba, what you want to do is entirely possible under linux
[07:48] <lsheeba> why cant i scroll to processes when im at CTRL ALT F2
[07:48] <bazhang> Compi, ham radio?
[07:49] <blade> ZykoticK9, i am running ati yes but it really dont have to do with ati... i just need to change some settings in xorg.conf i have both vid cards working now but need to move some settings so i have the right monitor on the right card
[07:49] <Compi> Bazhang, Thats correct.
[07:49] <Yukinoroh> insmod: I have internal autio analog stereo, both (front and right) are 100%
[07:49] <trijntje_oneiric> lsheeba, just typ top next time it happens, probably the game will be at the top of the list
[07:49] <rudra> having problem with wireless please help
[07:49] <ZykoticK9> blade, sorry i don't help with ATI stuff.  Good luck.
[07:49] <lsheeba> i want to know which rat process requires me to kill , and with control alt f2 is not GUI and writing it , ok to me is ok , but when my PC is hanged on black screen because the game crashed , how can i just control alt delete and end task like in windows
[07:49] <bazhang> !wifi | rudra
[07:49] <insmod> Yukinoroh; is your other prog running
[07:50] <Yukinoroh> ah no, wait I'll run it then
[07:50] <blade> ZykoticK9, ty
[07:50] <Compi> bazhang, Thats correct.
[07:50] <lsheeba> this is the only problem in linux in this world , if this is resolved linux can be a real competition!
[07:50] <trijntje_oneiric> lsheeba, if you know the name of the program you can just kill it wiht killall progname
[07:50] <bazhang> !ot | lsheeba
[07:50] <lsheeba> Major Issue Problem why the hell this is still kernalized
[07:50] <rudra> im unable to detect wireless networks in 11.04
[07:51] <Compi> bazhang, may I post a link to the project here?
[07:51] <bazhang> rudra, please give a ton more details
[07:51] <Romance> Hello, may I add more space to the partition for my Ubuntu. I made a dualboot on my pc XP / Ubuntu. i don't want to reformat.
[07:51] <bazhang> Romance, using gparted live cd?
[07:51] <Yukinoroh> insmod: yes it is now, but no change
[07:51] <bazhang> Compi, sure, please do
 i'm unable to detect any wifi networks
[07:51] <glebihan> Romance, do you have a live CD ?
 im using natty
[07:52] <insmod> Yukinoroh; now look at playback
[07:52] <lsheeba> ps aux the list goes on and i cant scroll up in the VN dialog ( AKA ) CMD screen i know how to kill process through terminal , ive been using linux since dapper! , this is absurd to the extent that this is not resolved in 10.10 as they said 10 out of 10 ? waaaat? i thought the dream of linux is real after ive been away from feisty fawn for 3 years
[07:52] <bazhang> rudra, thats the same exact info.
[07:52] <Compi> bazhang, here is the link to the project: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/svxlink
[07:52] <Romance> No, i don't have live CD.
 ok you ask me
[07:52] <bazhang> Romance, gparted live cd. 60mb iso
 like any questions
[07:52] <glebihan> Romance, then get one and use gparted to resize your partitions
[07:52] <Yukinoroh> insmod: I have mono, at 100%
[07:53] <Romance> Okay, so it won't reformat right?
[07:53] <insmod> Yukinoroh;not muted
[07:53] <bazhang> lsheeba, please tone it down
[07:53] <lsheeba> imagine some1 who has this kind of situation imagnie this ! , omg a business / corporation / school , University ! ? whoa man just WHOA!
[07:53] <Yukinoroh> insmod: no it's not muted
[07:53] <blade> can anyone point me to where i can find some help with understanding the xorg.conf file please
[07:53] <trijntje_oneiric> lsheeba, take it elsewhere. If you have been using linux since dapper you should have no problem killing a process
[07:53] <insmod> Yukinoroh;what does it say it is running ALSA?
[07:54] <Compi> bazhang, I get audio from Qtel but no mic audio into it. Don't know what I am missing. it looks like I need to install some sound driver or something but it gives me a error..
[07:54] <Yukinoroh> insmod: well I set it on auto... should I try it in ALSA? OSS? ESD?
 what info should i giv
[07:54] <bazhang> Compi, what about checking in terminal alsamixer
[07:54] <aussie114> hello, is there a terminal command to restart your mouse services, some things I do lock up my mouse and I want to fix it without restarting my computer
[07:54] <bazhang> rudra, chipset, driver, installed how and from where
[07:54] <llutz_> lsheeba: if one runs weird stuff, like games or whatever on business machines, he already has other problems. an now stop it here, take your blahblah to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:54] <glebihan> Romance, be careful while doing it, but gparted will allow you to resize the partitions without reformatting
 should i give you lspci?
[07:55] <Romance> aussie114 : detach your mouse and attach it back?
[07:55] <Compi> bazhang, I did that, problem is that I am unable to find what the install refers to.
[07:55] <bazhang> rudra, to pastebin
[07:55] <lsheeba> in windows Ctrl alt delete is Suffice! end tasking a process .exe , ok ive been tampering with this since along time , any1 can help me with this problem i got i have a game thats ported both for linux and windows , a customized IO Quake ( running QuakeX ) , the launcher is made in windows , but not in linux , so i tried the unified warsaw game launcher , edited it to read the fs_gamepath quakeX folder baseq3  ( Engine Dir ) , then the game s
[07:55] <lsheeba> tarted on black screen! need help m8
[07:55] <insmod> Yukinoroh; easier just stop pulse audio -- should work then
 ya just a sec
[07:55] <aussie114> romance: tried that
[07:55] <Yukinoroh> insmod: how do I do that?
[07:55] <Compi> bazhang, in the link: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/svxlink/wiki/InstallationInstructions
[07:56] <Compi> bazhang, in the link you will see the audio instructions
[07:56] <bazhang> Compi, hang on, busy right at the moment
[07:56] <blade> can anyone point me to where i can find some help with understanding the xorg.conf file please
[07:56] <Compi> bazhang, Ok.. thanks..
[07:56] <insmod> Yukinoroh; pulseaudio -k
[07:56] <Compi> bazhang, standing by...
[07:56] <Yukinoroh> insmod: no effect
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/650476/
[07:57] <bazhang> Compi, please direct your questions to the channel, with as much info as possible
[07:57] <insmod> Yukinoroh; no idea
[07:57] <Yukinoroh> ^^; I've been on this for about a week
[07:57] <Yukinoroh> I'm about to give up
[07:58] <Compi> bazhang, excuse my ignorance, how do I do it.. NooB here :)
[07:59] <insmod> Yukinoroh; kill gui at boot install fluxbox reboot and startx with fluxbox in .xinitrc -- should work then
[07:59] <kenneth_> Yukinoroh, if it makes you feel any better I've been struggling with this linux xlass I have to take and nothing that the text book or what my instructor has said makes any sense.
[07:59] <glebihan> Compi, did you have a look at the Ubuntu specific installation instructions ? https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/svxlink/wiki/InstallSrcUbuntu
[08:00] <Yukinoroh> anyways I have to go soon
[08:00] <Yukinoroh> I have an appointment
[08:00] <Yukinoroh> thanks for the help
[08:00] <Compi> glebihan, I did, let me look at it again and then I can tell where I got to..
[08:01] <Compi> glebihan, I completed that section without any problems..
[08:01] <Yukinoroh> thanks a lot, good bye :)
[08:01] <Compi> glebihan, the sound files not is my issue..
[08:01] <Compi> glebihan, no luck with that at all...
[08:01] <Killer> hello
[08:02] <Killer> anybody here? need some help
[08:02] <blade> can anyone point me to where i can find some help with understanding the xorg.conf file please
 any luck?
[08:02] <wildbat> !anyone| Killer
[08:03] <wildbat> blade: man xorg.conf
[08:03] <bazhang> rudra, is this a usb dongle? try lsusb if so
[08:04] <blade> wildbat, i know how to edit it what i dont know is what settings i need to change for sure
[08:04] <Killer> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 in my PC... it's connected to my 32inch LCD tv through HDMI... but ubuntu is showing it's a 95" inch monitor... how do I change the monitor type?
 no its not usb
[08:04] <blade> wildbat, i have just got my 2nd vid card working but the monitor is not acting the way i want it to
[08:05] <Erik_dc> hello
[08:05] <Killer> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 in my PC... it's connected to my 32inch LCD tv through HDMI... but ubuntu is showing it's a 95" inch monitor... how do I change the monitor type?
[08:05] <Compi> glebihan, I am unable to get this part sorted under Post install stuff... I quote: "There are no audio level controls in SvxLink server nor Qtel. The levels must be adjusted with an external tool like aumix, kmix, alsamixer or whatever your favourite mixer is. I usually use the command line alsamixer application. Start one of the mixers and locate the controls to use for adjusting the levels. The output level is adjusted using the two sliders Pcm and Vol
[08:05] <Compi> . The input level is adjusted using the Capture (sometimes called IGain) slider, not the Mic or Input (line-in) slider. The latter two are used to adjust the monitoring level of the two inputs. Set these two to zero. Select to use either the microphone or the line-in input. Set the Pcm, Vol and Mic/Input sliders half way up. Adjust the levels according to the instructions below. "
[08:06] <blade> wildbat, for example both monitors are position "0 0" and are on different cards
[08:06] <trijntje_oneiric> !hi | Erik_dc
[08:06] <Erik_dc> it seems Xchat allways joins this chatroom while i like it to load another one by default
[08:06] <Compi> glebihan, I can not find the Igain / capture slider..
[08:06] <Erik_dc> any idea where to find the settings?
[08:06] <Killer> there is no xorg.conf inside /etc/X11/
[08:06] <greyster> mornin all
[08:06] <bazhang> Erik_dc, then change the autojoin: xchat menu network list edit server remove from autojoin list
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> Killer, not by default, but if you create one - it will be used
[08:07] <bazhang> Erik_dc, what distro
[08:07] <greyster> bye!
[08:07] <Erik_dc> ubuntu 11.04 64
[08:07] <Erik_dc> let me see
[08:08] <Killer> ZykoticK9: how?
[08:08] <bazhang> Erik_dc, then its called ubuntu servers, really freenode though
[08:08] <Erik_dc> favorite channals?
[08:09] <bazhang> Erik_dc, edit ubuntu servers, it will bring up a nother menu
[08:09] <wildbat> blade: i am no expert in it sorry ;p ~
[08:09] <Killer> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 in my PC... it's connected to my 32inch LCD tv through HDMI... but ubuntu is showing it's a 95" inch monitor... how do I change the monitor type?
[08:09] <Erik_dc> ok
[08:09] <bazhang> Erik_dc, separate them with a comma  #chan1,#chan2 thus
[08:09] <Killer> how do i generate a xorg.conf file?
[08:09] <Erik_dc> ok, got it set
[08:10] <celthunder> Killer: X --configure
[08:10] <Erik_dc> brb to test
[08:10] <Erik_dc> thank you
[08:10] <celthunder> Killer: might be X -configure
[08:10] <glebihan> Compi, does the "Capture" control appear in amixer ?
[08:10] <Erik_dc> ok, that did the trick
[08:11] <bazhang> Erik_dc, good news
[08:11] <Erik_dc> just change favorite channals, thanks a lot
[08:11] <bazhang> Erik_dc, there is also the channel #xchat just a fyi
[08:11] <Erik_dc> another question :) is this the place to come with ubuntu problems?
[08:11] <bazhang> Erik_dc, yep
[08:11] <Erik_dc> fantastic :)
[08:12] <MGandTL> or the ubuntu forums if you want to refer back to it.
[08:12] <bazhang> !askubuntu
[08:12] <Compi> glebihan, Yes, I quote:"Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
[08:12] <Compi>   Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined penum
[08:12] <Compi>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
[08:12] <Compi>   Limits: Capture 0 - 15
[08:12] <Compi>   Front Left: Capture 8 [53%] [12.00dB] [off]
[08:12] <FloodBot1> Compi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:13] <Erik_dc> maybe this is than also a good place to say tank you to all the ubuntu people? im using it now for nearly 2 years and love it. I recoomand ubuntu to everyone i see
[08:13] <Compi> FloodBot, Thanks.
[08:13] <Erik_dc> have a good day everyone
[08:14] <trijntje_oneiric> Erik_dc, good day to you too
[08:14] <Deesl> phew
[08:14] <Erik_dc> geniet van je weekend trijntje :)
[08:14] <trijntje_oneiric> lol Erik_dc ;)
[08:14] <soulis77-SE> Hi all. What is the difference between: dig @localhost example.com and dig example.com ?  I get error when using @localhost but not the other one.
[08:15] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: @localhost queries "localhost" (your machine"
[08:15] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: so no dns running locally?
[08:16] <soulis77-SE> llutz: That is what I'm trying to set up. I think...
[08:16] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: "sudo lsof -i :53"
[08:17] <glebihan> Compi, your capture device is muted, try "amixer set Capture toggle"
[08:17] <soulis77-SE> llutz: Lots of nsd info...
[08:18] <soulis77-SE> llutz: One example row:  nsd     20415  nsd    4u  IPv4 106497382       UDP *:domain
[08:18] <jnsl_> when i try to sudo sshfs i get connection reset by peer.. if i try with out sudo it works! I have copied my ssh folder to root, thinking this was the issue, but now i can ssh with root and sshfs is same error
[08:18] <llutz_> jnsl_: don't use ssh(fs) as root
[08:19] <jnsl_> llutz_ but i want to mount the drive in /meida/<name>
[08:19] <Compi> glebihan, Thanks, is this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/650484/
[08:19] <jnsl_> media*
[08:19] <glebihan> Compi, yes should be ok
[08:19] <Compi> glebihan, Thanks heaps!
[08:19] <glebihan> Compi, you're welcome
[08:19] <llutz_> jnsl_: just make sure to be in group fuse
[08:19] <Compi> glebihan, I am going to try Qtel and give feedback.. One minute..
[08:21] <insmod> jnsl_: why not just sudo mount
[08:21] <llutz_> jnsl_: sudo chown <you> /media/<name>
[08:21] <jnsl_> llutz_ can i add root to fuse? i tried usermod -a -G fuse root
[08:21] <llutz_> insmod: because it's sshfs
[08:22] <jnsl_> hmm
[08:22] <insmod> llutz, insteed of that
[08:23] <jnsl_> <llutz i did chown on the folder, same error ;( im not sure if its a permission thing?
[08:24] <llutz_> jnsl_: "sshfs user@host:/path /media/<name>" as user
[08:24] <Compi> glebihan, The mic is still not working. no incoming audio.
[08:25] <jnsl_> ohhh
[08:25] <soulis77-SE> llutz: Do I need the dns for localhost?  My VPS provider have dns server for me but.. ?
[08:25] <jnsl_> llutz_ thanks i was missing user@
[08:25] <jnsl_> :))
[08:26] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: you need a dns, but it doesn't have to run on your local machine
[08:27] <soulis77-SE> yes but the dns for the localhost is that special? Or what is dig @localhost   used for?  Newbe...
[08:27] <glebihan> Compi, could you try with some other app (like gnome-sound-recorder) ? this way we'll see if the issue comes from Qtel or something else
[08:27] <Romance> soulis77-SE: you can make your own DNS server on your VPS or use free dns services (eg: www.freedns.afraid.org)
[08:27] <Compi> glebihan, Ok.. I will try that..
[08:27] <Greyster> jus having a look around?
[08:28] <soulis77-SE> Romance: I have DNS from afraid.org  but the localhost is that dns for MY server ?
[08:28] <soulis77-SE> sorry from* my server that is
[08:28] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: "dig @localhost"  is senseless if you don't run your own dns locally. "@host" just specifies what dns-server to query
[08:29] <Romance> soulis77-SE: apparantly you can't even remote to your VPS localhost, you still need the IP instead. so. yeah.
[08:29] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: "dig @8.8.8.8 example.com"  to query google-dns
[08:29] <milen8204> I need English - German and German - English dictionary, any Ideas for one?
[08:30] <Greyster> seen enough for now and shall try and learn a little more about irssi
[08:30] <soulis77-SE> llutz: No errors when doing that.
[08:30] <bazhang> milen8204, online?
[08:30] <milen8204> bazhang, no a program
[08:30] <llutz_> milen8204: ding, wgerman, wngerman
[08:31] <llutz_> !info ding
[08:31] <llutz_> ^^ milen8204
[08:31] <milen8204> llutz, thanks I will try house
[08:32] <soulis77-SE> When I use mail or something will that affect the @localhost. I'm going to use some/all of the following Postfix, Procmail, Courier or sendmail. Will it
[08:32] <majdekalel> hi guys i have strange problem >>>> i can't open facebook website ???
[08:32] <majdekalel> look like a dns problem ???
[08:33] <majdekalel> i can open it using proxy  ....
[08:33] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: just make sure to have access to at least 1 nameserver (dns). it does not have to run locally (on localhost).
[08:34] <wildbat> majdekalel: what about other website? are you blocked from facebook ~like china do .
[08:34] <Compi> glebihan, I found that in recorder it did not record at all. There I messed with the controls and found the correct line in selection.. I tested Qtel and all is now working as required. Thanks Heaps for all the help!! Much appreciated..
[08:34] <majdekalel> no i can access other websites
[08:34] <glebihan> Compi, you're welcome
[08:35] <Compi> Have a great day everyone..!!
[08:35] <majdekalel> even when i use ping command with facebook website i have no respond ...
[08:35] <llutz_> soulis77-SE: the dns-nameserver being used by default, are listed in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:35] <majdekalel> i can access just over proxy server ..
[08:35] <majdekalel> so is it a dns problem ??
[08:35] <wildbat> majdekalel: dig facebook.com?
[08:35] <majdekalel> wait
[08:36] <majdekalel> nothing !!!!
[08:36] <majdekalel> dig facebook.com gives me nothing !!!
[08:36] <bryan_> hello
[08:36] <wildbat> majdekalel: use 8.8.8.8 as your dns then
[08:37] <majdekalel> listen ping facebook.com and give me the ip
[08:37] <chaddy> hello bryan_
[08:38] <majdekalel> you did that or what ???
[08:38] <majdekalel> someone please ping the facebook.com and give me the ip ???
[08:38] <chaddy> dns by irc?
[08:38] <bryan_> how many ip does one have ?
[08:38] <wildbat> majdekalel:  PING facebook.com (69.63.189.11) ; are you at work which your IT department firewalled?
[08:38] <chaddy> 69.63.189.16
[08:39] <majdekalel> its not working
[08:39] <majdekalel> no i dont have firewall
[08:39] <majdekalel> it is open connection HSPA+
[08:39] <soulis77-SE> llutz: So if I have my VPS providers dns in sesolv.conf But I set up my DNS and domain name with afraid.org. Then I should add the afraid dns name to the file...
[08:39] <bazhang> majdekalel, why the proxy
[08:39] <majdekalel> when i use the proxy server i can access facebook.com
[08:40] <majdekalel> but without proxy i can't
[08:40] <bazhang> !enter | majdekalel
[08:40] <majdekalel> ok ok im so sorry
[08:40] <wildbat> majdekalel: traceroute and see ~ what happen, may be ~
[08:41] <majdekalel> i tried that too and nothing !!!
[08:42] <majdekalel> i were using facebook normally and the chat disconnected without any reason !!! and then i tried to open it but nothing !!!
[08:42] <tortukitu_> t.net
[08:42] <yelp14> hello #Ubuntu!
[08:42] <yelp14> I was hoping to get some basic help on setting sshfs
[08:43] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS yelp14
[08:43] <yelp14> yeah I've been using goodle
[08:43] <yelp14> google*
[08:43] <wildbat> majdekalel: cotact your ISP ~ it is not ubuntu problem ~ :>
[08:44] <yelp14> I'm connecting with my server by using the publicIP -p PORT#
[08:45] <yelp14> If I understand correctly, its supposed to look like 'sshfs user@host:directory mountpoint'
[08:46] <yelp14> I guess I'm confused on what to put in the user@host spot, cause i'm getting the error 'missing host' returned
[08:47] <llutz_> yelp14: what was you exact command?
[08:47] <null> Question:  Why does 'parted -l /dev/sdc' not list the partition types i define (the column is blank,) while 'fdisk -l /dev/sdc' correctly list them as partition type id's 83 and 82?
[08:47] <llutz_> your
[08:48] <yelp14> llutz: 'sshfs [publicIP] -p [port]: /home/dir /home/dir'
[08:48] <yelp14> with the first dir being the dir on my server and the second my mount point
[08:48] <llutz_> yelp14: sshfs -p port# user@ip.adr.of.server:/home/dir /home/dir
[08:51] <yelp14> llutz: thanks! But I got this error message 'fuse: bad mount point `/home/anarchy/Videos': No such file or directory'
[08:51] <yelp14> but that is the correct dir :(
[08:52] <llutz_> yelp14: mkdir /home/anarchy/Videos
[08:52] <llutz_> yelp14: it needs to be owned by your user
[08:52] <yelp14> thats the server side dir
[08:52] <yelp14> oh
[08:52] <yelp14> hmm
[08:52] <yelp14> I guess I don't understand..
[08:52] <llutz_> yelp14: serverside? you don't add spaces between host:/path
[08:53] <yelp14> maybe that's my problem. one second
[08:53] <blade> need help with xorg.conf settings please just need to understand what some of them mean
[08:53] <llutz_> yelp14: if you have a space after :, it IS your problem
[08:56] <blade> need help with xorg.conf settings
[08:56] <blade> anyone understand the xorg.conf file?
[08:56] <yelp14> llutz_: Thanks man! I got it worked out!!
[08:57] <SwedeMike> !ask | blade
[08:57] <blade> SwedeMike, i have been asking the question all night
[08:58] <SwedeMike> then ask the question again, not asking if someone knows xorg.conf
[08:58] <yelp14> llutz_: this is so cool! is it possible to do this through the use of putty on a windows machine as well?
[08:58] <llutz_> yelp14: uuh, no idea if windows/putty supports sshfs, you'd better ask allmgihty google. sry
[08:59] <yelp14> alright! thanks bud. Have a good night, and some good karma your way for your help :)
[08:59] <blade> i have 2 monitors 2 video cards, i have both showing up now but i still cant use the second monitor, it is down to tweaking the xorg.conf file now and i do not understand what all of it is for... so i need to know if someone will look at the file and see if they can help me find the problem.... should i go on?
[09:00] <Lasers> blade: /j #xorg
[09:00] <blade> Lasers, thank you
[09:00] <Lasers> blade: Np. Good luck.
[09:04] <blade> lol i guess nobody on the xorg channel
[09:04] <rxbii> anyone know a way to watch Netflix movies on ubuntu, without a copy of windows?
[09:04] <yelp14> rxbii: you find out, you let me know
[09:04] <blade> look for moonlight i think that's what it is called
[09:05] <yelp14> llutz_: what's the best way to unmount? 'fusermount -u mountpoint' ??
[09:05] <insmod> blade: i know xorg
[09:06] <blade> insmod if i post the xorg.conf file will you please look at it and see if you see what i am doing wrong?
[09:06] <llutz_> yelp14: yes
[09:06] <insmod> blade: here is the thing
[09:06] <Slart> rxbii: not sure how old or accurate this is http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_(Watch_Instantly)_in_Linux
[09:06] <wernerdev> Hey everyone, I am stuck compiling Netatalk with Zeroconf...
[09:07] <wernerdev> configure: error: Zeroconf installation not found
[09:07] <wernerdev> Cant find out which package to install...
[09:07] <blade> insmod, yes
[09:07] <insmod> blade: ubuntu overwrites it and I am not an ubuntu guy to tell you what -- so even if it works it wont --- that said is it nvidia?
[09:07] <gogeta> heh this is awsome
[09:07] <wernerdev> Or do I manually have to download it from the web somewhere?
[09:07] <gogeta> finch
[09:07] <moocow> Do we need to shorten all URLs, even http://paste.ubuntu.com/?
[09:07] <blade> no
[09:07] <blade> insmod, ati
[09:08] <moocow> Anyway, ubuntu needs better graphics :P
[09:08] <gogeta> moocow: lol if anything it needs less
[09:08] <insmod> blade:ati sucks at linux support -- if you were on debian ya
[09:08] <yelp14> lol moocow
[09:08] <moocow> well this is trying to take over windows, right?
[09:08] <gogeta> insmod: ati sucked it linux amd does not
[09:09] <moocow> if you show ubuntu to someone they will think, 'is this 10 years old?'
[09:09] <bazhang> moocow, got a support question?
[09:09] <moocow> bazhang: no, I'll quit now
[09:09] <yelp14> learn to customize linux moocow... people are very impressed when I show them my computer
[09:09] <yelp14> and I"m a freaking noob.
[09:09] <blade> insmod,  both cards and aticonf is what will over wright  the file on here and that will only happen in cccle or terminal
[09:09] <gogeta> insmod: even the ati oss driver is 70% and there own is pretty mutch as good as nivida
[09:10] <blade> insmod, i have all of it working other than just tweaking a few settings in the xorg file
[09:10] <insmod> gogeta: nvidia all the way there propriatary driver rocks
[09:10] <gogeta> insmod: well you said ati sucked they used to suck
[09:11] <moocow> the video is messed up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbR5CtFVJVo&feature=player_embedded#t=47s
[09:11] <wernerdev> Ok got it working... Needed to install Avahi-dev for --zeroconf to work...
[09:11] <blade> guys really i'm not up for the debate on all this.... i built this computer for M$ 7 so i got what i got.... now i just want to use it
[09:11] <gogeta> btw you server guys would love this finc program its pidgin for cli
[09:11] <gogeta> finch
[09:12] <Senix> how can i install libgtk-1.2 on Ubuntu? apt can't find it in the repos
[09:12] <blade> insmod, would you be willing to look at the xorg.conf file for me please
[09:12] <blade> http://pastebin.com/T1C6ZCVD
[09:13] <bizby> Anyone here use a 4th gen ipod shuffle in ubuntu?
[09:13] <blade> insmod, my second monitor (on second vid card) is acting like a mirror but will not show any open windows or anything just the desktop
[09:13] <insmod> Senix: it's at 3 you will just have to harlink  the .so file
[09:14] <insmod> blade: you have it set for 2 desks beteer -- drag a file over
[09:14] <blade> insmod, i think it has something to do with the position "0 0" on both monitors
[09:14] <GOMI> how do i delete xcfe or xubuntu because i only use gnome
[09:15] <blade> insmod, i dont understand what you mean
[09:15] <bizby> GOMI, try sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <insmod> blade: is it gnome?
[09:15] <blade> insmod, yes but i also have the option for kde and xcfe
[09:16] <GOMI> bizby, oke ill try
[09:16] <blade> insmod, i would like to stay with gnome tho
[09:16] <insmod> blade: they all default to 4 desktops -- just in your desktop make it one
[09:16] <GOMI> bizby, it says its not installed ?!?  weird
[09:17] <bizby> I guess it depends on how you installed it. Sorry, I don't know
[09:17] <blade> insmod, how
[09:17] <GOMI> the mice icon thats xfce  right
[09:17] <TBotNik> All: Trying to set up inet bridging and using HOWTO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces  I have to reverse the configs as I get my inet signal via wlan0.  I've written up my attempts on this at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11076068#post11076068  and I need a review of the cAll: Trying to set up inet bridging and using HOWTO: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BridgingNetworkInterfaces  I have to reverse t
[09:18] <Senix> how do i add the 9.10 repos in 11.04?
[09:18] <insmod> blade: i use fluxbox sorry
[09:18] <blade> insmod, mint is based off ubuntu also
[09:19] <blade> xorg should be the same
[09:19] <CQ> hello, I have a GPG question ... i neeed to  import an old private key into my current setup, but gpg --list-secret-keys ./secring.gpg tells me gpg: error reading key: secret key not available ... any ideas?
[09:19] <Infernet> Senix: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <insmod> blade: ah right click panel and remove desktops
[09:20] <Senix> Infernet: it seems that deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jaunty universe is gone
[09:20] <insmod> blade: workspaces that is
[09:21] <blade> ok done
[09:21] <blade> insmod, done
[09:21] <Senix> Infernet: i have my sources.list up
[09:21] <insmod> blade: restartx
[09:21] <blade> brb
[09:21] <Infernet> Senix: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:22] <Senix> ....
[09:24] <th0r> Senix: are you aware that using 9.10 packages in 11.04 is a very bad idea?
[09:25] <iceroot> what is the common way to tell my x-server that i want qwertz instead of qwerty? creaste /etc/X11/xorg.conf and set it there? or is there another way?
[09:25] <Senix> th0r: i just need libgtk1.2
[09:25] <blade> insmod, same
[09:25] <insmod> blade: k show me xorg.conf
[09:26] <ritzz> hi everyone when im trying to mount a folder in cryptkeeper after giving my password a meesage pop up saying "The encrypted folder could not be mounted because the mount point is not empty" yesterday everything was ok any ideas what can be wrong?
[09:26] <blade> http://pastebin.com/T1C6ZCVD
[09:26] <wols_> ritzz: read the error message. have you checked your mountpoint?
[09:27] <ritzz> where i can read a error message?
[09:27] <ritzz> and where to check for mount point?
[09:27] <wols_> ritzz: you just pasted the error message!
[09:27] <ritzz> yes
[09:27] <wols_> then READ it for a chnage
[09:27] <ritzz> sorry
[09:27] <ritzz> yes
[09:27] <ritzz> but i dont understand
[09:28] <blade> insmod, i know that my res needs to come up on the 2nd monitor but right now i just want it to not show like a mirror ... and it only mirrors the desktop not any open windows or programs on it
[09:28] <ritzz> what it means not empty
[09:28] <ritzz> ?
[09:28] <wols_> where in your filesystem did you mount this cryptkeeper thing?
[09:28] <wols_> means: not empty. some file or such is there right now
[09:28] <ritzz> in ritzz folder
[09:28] <ritzz> i have 2 oder public folders
[09:28] <insmod> blade: xinerama is off
[09:29] <blade> insmod yes
[09:29] <ritzz> and the ritzz private isnt mounted
[09:29] <ritzz> im sure of that
[09:29] <bazhang> !enter | ritzz
[09:29] <ritzz> ok sorry
[09:29] <insmod> blade: why
[09:29] <blade> insmod in xrandr it tells me that my 2nd monitor is not connected
[09:30] <insmod> blade: Xinerama is an extension to the X Window System which enables multi-headed X applications and window managers to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display.
[09:30] <blade> insmod, i dont want to run it like that even mirrored would be fine for now but it's not really mirrored
[09:30] <gogeta> there
[09:30] <blade> insmod, i understand that but i know i can also run this without it
[09:31] <aum___> i have configured apache its working fine in "localhost" it also has static ip and its also working, but in the LAN its not working though i can ping that ip from other computer...
[09:31] <insmod> blade: you wanted my help -- you are on your own
[09:31] <blade> insmod, what i want to change is how both monitors look like they are on one device [0] -0
[09:32] <blade> insmod, i do want help.... you asked why i had it off
[09:32] <ritzz> interesting i had a dvd when i take it away from pc now shows that encrypted folder it's mounted
[09:32] <insmod> blade: set it on then try
[09:33] <blade> insmod, i have tried to turn it on but it locks up untill i get the monitors to show up on different devices
[09:33] <blade> insmod, that is why i need help to modify the xorg
[09:33] <blade> insmod, i do not understand all the settings in xorg
[09:33] <insmod> blade: then it's working the other params are wromg
[09:34] <blade> insmod, right like i said in xorg it shows both monitors on one card
[09:34] <insmod> blade: here is what i would do
[09:34] <blade> insmod, i do not know what to change that value to
[09:34] <blade> insmod, ok
[09:35] <insmod> blade: use one monitor save the xorg then use the other save as xorg1 -- look at files and edit xorg.conf with the same parameters
[09:35] <ritzz> now  umounted but the key icon in the notification area disapear...something is messing with cryptkeeper the only appl installed recently is ubuntu control center
[09:36] <blade> insmod, will ubuntu auto reconfigure xorg if i take out the dedicated card?
[09:36] <insmod> blade:  should
[09:37] <blade> insmod, in the section "monitor" what is the option "position" "0 0" for?
[09:37] <insmod> blade: reboot or use live cd
[09:37] <insmod> blade: how far of center you are
[09:38] <blade> insmod, what part tells the computer what monitor is on what device?
[09:38] <gogeta> blade: how bad you brake the pc today heh
[09:38] <blade> gogeta, i think i have it almost fixed lol
[09:38] <Night-hacks> hi
[09:38] <insmod> blade: Identifier
[09:39] <Night-hacks> i see odd behavior in my machine each month !1
[09:39] <bazhang> !details | Night-hacks
[09:39] <Night-hacks> my ram becomes full while im doing what i do every day
[09:39] <blade> insmod, the section "screen"  viewport.
[09:39] <Night-hacks> i think it must be related to Cron
[09:39] <Night-hacks> my system is swapping right now !!!
[09:40] <ritzz> how to remove ubuntu control center?
[09:40] <ritzz> i dont needed anymore
[09:40] <blade> insmod, can i pm you
[09:40] <insmod> blade: kinda tied -- sure
[09:40] <Lasers> ritzz: Find out the name of the package and remove/purge it.
[09:42] <ritzz> sudo apt-get --purge remove ucc this will be more than enough?
[09:42] <Night-hacks> i dont see anything odd in "top" !
[09:43] <wildbat> Night-hacks: try htop  then more user friendly
[09:43] <Night-hacks> wildbat: no different
[09:43] <Night-hacks> wildbat: just i dont know who is eating my RAM !!!
[09:44] <Night-hacks> wildbat: while im doing nothing !!!!
[09:44] <ritzz> now i remove ubuntu control center but cryptkeeper keeps disapearing when mounting the folder and now i have to unmount via terminal
[09:44] <wildbat> Night-hacks: sort by memory.
[09:44] <ZykoticK9> !atemyram | Night-hacks
[09:44] <Night-hacks> wildbat: i do
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: top can tell you, just organise it by ram
[09:45] <Night-hacks> ActionParsnip: i've sorted by RAM !
[09:46] <ritzz> another question why when i mount a folder with cryptkeeper other users/accounts on the pc have access to this folder on the desktop (im admin user?
[09:46] <th0r> ritzz: you have a problem with the mount point for cryptkeeper. From previous messages my guess is you are mounting it to the same place as the dvd
[09:46] <wildbat> Night-hacks: how many RAM you have?
[09:46] <ritzz> how can that happen if the dvd is the cd rom?
[09:46] <ritzz> this problem just happen few hours ago
[09:46] <Night-hacks> wildbat: it's 1G, and it's always 50% in use
[09:47] <Night-hacks> wildbat: but now it's 90% in use !!
[09:47] <yugiohfan2011> I'm sort of an old hand at Visual Basic for Microsoft Windows, and I'd like to know if there's something similar for Ubuntu, specifically for GNOME.
[09:48] <ritzz> thanx everyone have to go
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Night-hacks: ok!
[09:49] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Okay now I just downloaded and installed Sun VirtualBox and I'm trying to install WinXP on it. It keeps telling me FATAL: No  bootable media found. So here I am thinking that it's the CD or my drive, I test by placing the CD in another person's PC and it reads
[09:49] <Night-hacks> yugiohfan2011:  do you know python ?
[09:49] <wh1zz0>  immediately, I test my drive by nserting Spartacus movie and it automounts on my ubuntu (natty). So why can't I get this working , am I  missing something? How can I get this VirtualBox to boot this XP cd? Please help
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: did you set the CD to be used in the virtualbox config?
[09:50] <soulis77-SE> With the ln command. Can you view all added links somehow? I want to move my phpmysql ln...
[09:50] <wh1zz0> I didn't come across anything like that during the wizard
[09:50] <wh1zz0> I think I'm missing something..
[09:51] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: its part of the config of the virtual system
[09:51] <wh1zz0> Is there a way to specify it now even after I finished the wizard?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: yes, click the vbox then click the settings button
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: it's under the storage option
[09:53] <Spooky> ok, then. is anyone in here active?
[09:53] <wh1zz0> ActionParsnip: Oh thank you!.. I see it now.. But do I need to tick the check box for "passthrough"?
[09:53] <Spooky> also, hello.
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: not sure there dude, try it. You can't break anything
[09:54] <wh1zz0> Lol.. okie
[09:55] <trijntje> Spooky: yeah, lots of people ;)
[09:55] <Spooky> i hope some of them are nerds, because i have a nerd problem. and im not nearly nerd enough to handle it on my own. :(
[09:56] <Spooky> alos, i overused nerd.
[09:56] <Sidewinder1> !ask | Spooky
[09:56] <anurag_> need help with wifi setup on natty narhwal please
[09:57] <fairuz_> anurag_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo :)
[09:57] <wh1zz0> ActionParsnip: Okay I just tried it again and I ge tthe same error. No bootable media found. System halted.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> wh1zz0: i'd ask in #vbox dude
[09:58] <oCean> anurag_: best is to describe your situation, hardware/issues/what you have been trying so far
[09:58] <Spooky> fair enough. after installing cheese and camorama and also some video4linux thing, i cannot seem to get my logitech cam to work. with cheese, itll flick the image up for like, a second, but then nothing. any suggestions?
[09:58] <anurag_> naa aint that simple its a very specific case
[09:58] <anurag_> yea awrigh ocean
[10:05] <anurag_> so i read that brcm80211 is installed in the natty kernel and i did not need to install drivers for wifi not make it work and sure enuf i din the wifi worked right after i setup natty for dual boot alongside win 7 on my dell m101z but the wifi conked off after a couple of reboots i mean it doesnt detect any networks , a day ago i was not aware of brcm being included in the kernel and i accepted and installed any and all the wifi driver packages that came
[10:05] <anurag_>  my way, due to the same prob i then reinstalled the 11.04, since the after the failure for the second time i tried looking for the cause and this is what i've been able to get to after i 'dmesg' there is a line in the code which says 'brmc80211 in staging directory and you have been warned' i get the concept of staging directory and all but what the heck am i supposed to do sure dont wanna go back to lowly windows
[10:07] <anurag_> those are all my probs for 3 days i've been at it and have not been able to figure out
[10:07] <tomodachi> anurag_: that was way to much text for any sane person to read. Keep it short!
[10:07] <tomodachi> anurag_: so its a testing driver. Not much to do really
[10:07] <anurag_> dude thats 3 days work for me
[10:08] <anurag_> yea but it works right after install of natty
[10:08] <tomodachi> tohtori_: get a usb wifi card untill its considered as "stable"?!
[10:08] <anurag_> which means ther must be sthing inth updates which puts it in the staging dir as to what i dunno
[10:08] <tomodachi> possibly you can find some bleeding edge source of the driver on broadcoms page and compile that one for your kernel instead
[10:09] <anurag_> tried nothin ther
[10:09] <tomodachi> if you do a reinstall.  track what packages change maybe?
[10:09] <tomodachi> and just exclude installing the one that you think messes things up
[10:09] <tomodachi> probably kernel updates
[10:10] <Oorties> "Before running nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that nautilus can create them". How can I set permissions from command line that nautilus can do that?
[10:10] <anurag_> 3 thats what 1 thought too but ther way too many o em
[10:10] <anurag_> how do i chk which ones are kernel updates
[10:10] <tomodachi> Oorties: use the command chmod and chown
[10:10] <Oorties> Running Natty on X86-64. I must have deleted my home folder, this is the scenario. It was a ordinary file between my other files not hidden not ./ so I thought this is strange and I deleted It, and that is where my woes began, Logging in I get this:-1st screen:- could not update ICEauthority File/home/user//.ICEauthority.  2nd screen:- There is a problem with the configuration server (usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconfig-sanity-check-2exited with status 256)  3rd scree
[10:10] <Oorties> n _:- nautilus could not create the following required folders:/home/user/desktop/home/user/nautilus, Before running nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that nautilus can create them. I can only run with command line. Help would be greatly appreciated, just remember please I am a noob.
[10:10] <Oorties> Running Natty on X86-64. I must have deleted my home folder, this is the scenario. It was a ordinary file between my other files not hidden not ./ so I thought this is strange and I deleted It, and that is where my woes began, Logging in I get this:-1st screen:- could not update ICEauthority File/home/user//.ICEauthority.  2nd screen:- There is a problem with the configuration server (usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconfig-sanity-check-2exited with status 256)  3rd scree
[10:10] <Oorties> n _:- nautilus could not create the following required folders:/home/user/desktop/home/user/nautilus, Before running nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that nautilus can create them. I can only run with command line. Help would be greatly appreciated, just remember please I am a noob.
[10:11] <tomodachi> Oorties: stop spamming please
[10:11] <Oorties> Running Natty on X86-64. I must have deleted my home folder, this is the scenario. It was a ordinary file between my other files not hidden not ./ so I thought this is strange and I deleted It, and that is where my woes began,
[10:11] <tomodachi> Oorties: chown user:user /home/thefolder
[10:11] <lv_> Someone can take oorties into a private lol
[10:12] <Oorties> sorry tomodachi that was not the intention
[10:12] <tomodachi> read my instructions further up. They will make you the owner of that folder
[10:13] <anurag_> ok any with bcm4313 brodcom can tell me what drivers to use pleas????
[10:14] <anurag_> cmone guys i need help
[10:14] <trijntje> anurag_: put bcm4313 in software centre
[10:14] <anurag_> how do i do that
[10:14] <anurag_> which software centre
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[10:15] <trijntje> anurag_: go to the ubuntu software centre, and type in 'bcm4313'
[10:15] <ZykoticK9> Oorties, if tomodachi's command fails try "sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /home/USERNAME"
[10:15] <TBotNik> all: Need to setup eth0 with dhcp3-server to run local network.  Who know how?
[10:15] <anurag_> u mean the synaptics package manager
[10:15] <tomodachi> ZykoticK9: thanks for correcting me
[10:16] <ZykoticK9> tomodachi, not really a correction, IF yours fails
[10:16] <trijntje> anurag_: no, what version of ubuntu are you using? Do you have a bar in the top and bottom, or at the top and left of the screen
[10:16] <anurag_> just on top i am using 11.04
[10:16] <anurag_> natty narhwal
[10:17] <trijntje> anurag_: then just hit the super/windows key and type in "software", without the quotes
[10:17] <tomodachi> TBotNik: install  the package. then edit the configuration file under /etc/dhcpd.conf they have some examples you can uncomment. Then just start the service
[10:17] <anurag_> sorry that was dumb
[10:17] <anurag_> yea got it
[10:18] <anurag_> i've tried all those drivers
[10:18] <TBotNik> tomodachi: Hey tried all that and never worked so need more of a step-by step, with debugging, sorry
[10:18] <tomodachi> TBotNik: check your logs for an error message
[10:18] <trijntje> anurag_: how did you try them?
[10:18] <tomodachi> or / and post your error here
[10:18] <anurag_> what am i supposed to edit
[10:18] <tomodachi> if short enough
[10:19] <Oorties> zykoticK9 both don,t help on your suggestion say invalid user
[10:19] <anurag_> i din edit dhcpd but i installed all those packages earlier and blacklisted brcm80211 and cfg80211 and mac80211
[10:19] <TBotNik> !297
[10:19] <ZykoticK9> Oorties, you need to replace USERNAME with your actual username!
[10:19] <trijntje> anurag_: I recently installed ubuntu on a laptop with a broadcom card, I didnt edit anything. Just install the package (only the correct one!), reboot and presto
[10:20] <Oorties> I did
[10:20] <anurag_> thats the thig which one is the correct one
[10:20] <ZykoticK9> Oorties, then "your" user doesn't exist
[10:20] <rigved> hi everyone
[10:20] <Mononofu> hi
[10:21] <th0r> Oorties: if you deleted your home folder as you stated earlier then you have major problems to work out
[10:21] <ZykoticK9> Oorties, paste the command you actually entered
[10:21] <rigved> can anyone tell me how to add support for playing .webm videos in Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:21] <Sidewinder1> Oorties, To open nautilus with root priv., in command line type gksudo nautilus, enter password and go from there; can't help with the ICE stuff sorry.
[10:21] <Mononofu> why does the alternate install cd keep looking for a cdrom? oO (I'm trying to install from usb)
[10:21] <tomodachi> th0r: not really that bad. recreating the folder and you should be good to go.
[10:22] <th0r> tomodachi: that was actually more to the benefit of the folks trying to help him <smile>, just to make sure they didn't spin their wheels
[10:22] <TBotNik> tomodachi: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf is blank
[10:22] <Sidewinder1> Mononofu, Have you configured your bios to boot to usb?
[10:22] <Mononofu> yes
[10:22] <tomodachi> TBotNik: did you empty it? i installed this package 1 week ago. containted examples for me
[10:23] <TBotNik> tomodachi: You have URL to good HOWTO?  Tried about 20 so far and none have worked.
[10:23] <Mononofu> Sidewinder1: I'm referring to the installation itself
[10:23] <rigved> i tried to compile from source (ffmpeg 0.6) and then i was able to play .webm videos, but then i could not play .flv videos. so now i have followed this to get back .flv videos to play: bug 543157
[10:23] <tomodachi> TBotNik: privmess you an example from my dhcpd
[10:23] <Mononofu> Sidewinder1: I can select language and stuff, but then it starts looking for the (non existant) cdrom
[10:23] <TBotNik> tomodachi: Had to uninstall it yesterday after it crashed my inet.
[10:24] <Oorties> Sidewinder1 it says warning **cannot open display
[10:24] <rigved> but now i cannot play .webm files. any help would be appreciated?
[10:24] <Oorties> "Before running nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that nautilus can create them". How can I set permissions from command line that nautilus can do that?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Oorties: use chmod
[10:26] <Sidewinder1> Oorties, With all of the problems that you mentioned, perhaps it's time for a reinstall?.... Just use a LiveCD to back up any other data that's still on the drive.
[10:26] <om26er> my touchpad starts to do very weird things and have to restart my system
[10:26] <om26er> it will only move up and down and the click on the touchpad starts to act as right click
[10:27] <rigved> re-phrasing my question: is there any way to use ffmpeg 0.6 in Lucid? currently, Lucid uses ffmpeg 0.5 by default (from repos)
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> om26er: what model is the system?
[10:27] <wols_> rigved: backport
[10:27] <om26er> ActionParsnip, eepc 1215p
[10:27] <Oorties> I cant get into the system thats my problem, can only work from command line
[10:28] <Oorties> What will happen if I have to re-install natty, will I still be able to recover some of the lost files with a program like extundelete or is it gone for ever?
[10:28] <wols_> Oorties: chmod to change permissions on the commandline
[10:28] <cybervolfe> i cant connect my internet with wifi adhoc, how to resolv it ?
[10:28] <wols_> Oorties: no
[10:28] <rigved> wols_: by enabling it from the software sources? but that will tend to break a lot of right?
[10:28] <xiaq> Oorties: Try this `sudo chmod -R u+rw ~`
[10:28] <cybervolfe> i cant share it?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> om26er: can you give the output of:
[10:28] <rghose> @Oorties: you need to login as root that has permissions on /home
[10:28] <wols_> rigved: no. by compiling it yourself by backporting it from a newer version of ubuntu
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> om26er: lsb_release -d
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> rghose: root login is default disabled
[10:29] <ZykoticK9> xiaq, careful! that will change permissions on /root instead!!! Oorties
[10:29] <rigved> wols_: ohh...ok. thanks! i'll try that
[10:29] <om26er> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 11.04
[10:29] <xiaq> ZykoticK9: I think (s)he could log in with his own account in the command line
[10:29] <om26er> ActionParsnip, is there a kernel module that I could reload so that the system thinks I rebooted?
[10:30] <ZykoticK9> xiaq, sudo translates to the root user!
[10:30] <rghose> @Oorties: Reinstall should be too drastic a thing to do...
[10:30] <TBotNik> tomodachi: No router on this network.  If I had that why would I bother setting up dhcp as server?
[10:30] <xiaq> ZykoticK9: No, expansion of ~ happens in the shell. Try this yourself.
[10:30] <wols_> rigved: do you know how to backport a package?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> om26er: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; clear; lsmod | pastebinit
[10:30] <xiaq> ZykoticK9: Do this `sudo echo ~`
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> om26er: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Asus_Eee_PC_1215P   says it works fine
[10:30] <wols_> TBotNik: so you have your own internet? all by yourself?
[10:31] <rghose> @Oorties: do a mkdir /home/<username>, where <username> would be the username you use to login...
[10:31] <Oorties> xiaq it says no such file or directory
[10:31] <tomodachi> TBotNik: because most "routers" there ary many reasons. But if you dont then its fine :)
[10:31] <rghose> copy stuff from /etc/skel into that folder
[10:31] <rghose> and then chown <username> /home/<username> as root
[10:31] <ZykoticK9> xiaq, sorry you're correct.  I just used "sudo ls ~" and it showed my user's ~ not root's
[10:32] <xiaq> Oorties: As rghose says your home directory may be accidentally removed...
[10:32] <om26er> ActionParsnip, yes it does say that but I have the problem, its ubuntu certified and still :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/650528/
[10:32] <rigved> wols_: correct me if i am wrong. i'll download the source code for newer version from packages.ubuntu.com and compile it (configure, make and make install)
[10:32] <xiaq> Oorties: What's output of `ls /home` ?
[10:32] <xiaq> Oorties: Or if you can't do that `sudo ls /home`
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> om26er: what stuff says isn't useful. If its broken then it's broken :(
[10:32] <wols_> rigved: you download it with apt-get source, yes but then you create a .deb package from it with dpkg-buildpackage and install it via dpkg -i package.deb
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> om26er: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse
[10:33] <wols_> rigved: and you need to understand what to put in sources.list too
[10:33] <c0mrade_> How to update the kernel and all the tools in linux?
[10:33] <Oorties> rghose:- says cant create directory
[10:33] <bazhang> c0mrade_, upgrade to what
[10:33] <Sidewinder1> xiaq, I think he said earlier that he accidentally deleted his /home directory.
[10:33] <wols_> c0mrade_: apt-get install <new kernel package name>
[10:33] <rigved> wols_: ok. can you tell me what to put in sources.list?
[10:33] <TBotNik> tomodachi, wols_: Inet comes in from wlan0, but haved to get dhcp server running first then will try bridging.  If I can get the network running the other 3 servers will write in shared folders that the network, on the wlan0 side already sees and so data will go thru.  Yeah messy but will do until I fix with full bridging.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> om26er: did you go into mouse settings andenable two finger scrolling
[10:33] <xiaq> Sidewinder1: I joined later than that ;) thanks
[10:34] <wols_> rigved: a deb-src line for a ubuntu repo with the version of ffmpeg you want to use
[10:34] <Sidewinder1> xiaq, I suggested a reinstall...
[10:34] <TBotNik> DLink card configd with Atheros driver and does not want to run bridging right now
[10:34] <om26er> ActionParsnip, 2-fingers scroll is disabled and thanks for the command, the next time it happens i'll see if that solves the issue
[10:34] <om26er> ActionParsnip, if modprobe thing does that is it then an issue in the driver or the hardware?
[10:35] <TBotNik> tomodachi: Do I need to set eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces with static ip, for dhcp server.  Most HOWTOs say yes?
[10:35] <Oorties> xiaq comand not found on sudo l/s saya no such file or directory
[10:36] <rigved> wols_: i understood about giving it a specific ubuntu repo part. how do i tell it to use only the ffmpeg source package from there?
[10:36] <c0mrade_> Because I want to update the aircrack-ng tool.
[10:36] <wols_> rigved: you don't. you just only download the ffmpeg source and nothing else
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you may need a boot option on the module
[10:37] <xiaq> Oorties: Create another user in the command line, or you may just do a fresh install like Sidewinder1 said...
[10:37] <xiaq> Oorties: s/install/reinstall/
[10:37] <rigved> wols_: ok. and this will not affect my other *-dev packages?
[10:37] <om26er> ActionParsnip, what does that mean ? :)
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> om26er: try adding: options psmouse proto=exps   to /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf   then rerun the modprobe based command I gave earlier. May help
[10:37] <wols_> rigved: I talk about SOURCE. source doesn't come in package form
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you can load modules with extra options, makes them behave differently
[10:38] <rigved> wols_: ok. thanks for your help! i'll try this in a few minutes
[10:38] <rghose> @Oorties: run whoami and report what user you have logged in as
[10:38] <om26er> ActionParsnip, also the issue just happened and reloading worked :)
[10:38] <Oorties> xiaq:- s/install says no such file or dir
[10:39] <om26er> ActionParsnip, now giving the above a try
[10:39] <tomodachi> TBotNik: yes
[10:39] <tomodachi> at least i do
[10:39] <xiaq> Oorties: I meant substituting my previous sentence ;) that's vi
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> om26er: it will as it removed the module and reloads it ;)
[10:39] <Olotila> Hello, my /home folder is full, how do I get more space to it? There is room in hd.
[10:40] <Oorties> rghose"- johan
[10:40] <Sidewinder1> Olotila, Use Gparted to expand your partition.
[10:41] <Sidewinder1> Olotila, System--> Administration--> GParted.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> om26er: you could try simply adding to /etc/rc.local   to unload then load the driver just before login, may help
[10:41] <rghose> Olotila: remove unused stuff from /var/log/
[10:41] <rghose> Olotila: try removing the old kernel logs (sudo rm /var/log/kern.log*)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> om26er: then you wouldn't need the psmouse.conf file, but try with. It's all worth a try
[10:41] <rghose> Olotila: and (sudo rm /var/log/syslog*)
[10:42] <Olotila> I'll try gparted, there is only 11,4 MB to begin with
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> om26er: basically you will be fighting that module until it plays nice, also make sure you enable the multitouch thing I mentioned earlier in mouse options
[10:42] <om26er> ActionParsnip, so I should try to add options psmouse proto=exps to /etc/rc.local ?
[10:43] <om26er> ahh kk
[10:43] <Joshun> hi. could someone please tell me what is the easiest way to access an ubuntu machine over the internet through SSH.
[10:43] <wols_> Joshun: access in what way?
[10:43] <dr_willis>  Joshun ssh to the ip.....
[10:44] <th0r> Joshun: you need to install the ssh server first
[10:44] <Joshun> but the internet ip is the routers ip
[10:44] <dr_willis> use a dynamicdns serbice if the ip chsnges
[10:44] <Joshun> and the computers unique ip is only for the local network
[10:44] <Sidewinder1> Olotila, Make sure that you back-up first. :-)
[10:44] <Joshun> how would you go about connecting to it then?
[10:44] <dr_willis> Joshun:  port firawding setting on the router
[10:45] <Joshun> you cannot just ssh into your internet ip address because that is the router's ip
[10:45] <om26er> ActionParsnip, adding psmouse.conf makes cursor less sensitive it seems is that normal?
[10:45] <dr_willis> Joshun:  yes you can... via port forwarding
[10:45] <om26er> *adding to
[10:45] <soulis77-SE> I'm having an issue with hostname . Is this the forum?
[10:45] <Joshun> i'll set up port forwarding and see if that works then
[10:46] <Sidewinder1> soulis77-SE, Yes
[10:46] <TBotNik> tomodachi: So what am I mssing, still can not make this work
[10:46] <dr_willis> i port forward port 7777 for rxample to box 1. port 22.
[10:46] <dr_willis> port 7778 is to box 2
[10:46] <wols_> soulis77-SE: this is the forum if you have this issue under Ubuntu
[10:47] <Joshun> it doesn't work (ssh 86.184.190.79)
[10:47] <soulis77-SE> Ok, I have a VPS server and the hostname is set to xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.se  (long name).  I use echo xxxx.mooo.com > /etc/hostname to change it.
[10:47] <dr_willis> you dint have firwarding set rught then. use a custome port
[10:47] <ZykoticK9> dr_willis, BTW you where correct the other night about sudo timing out after 15 minutes, but you can't test using a watch command, the timer resets each time you run sudo.  I ended up using a sleep command to test it.  Thanks for your input however.
[10:47] <wols_> soulis77-SE: you don't put a FQDN into /etc/hostname
[10:48] <wols_> soulis77-SE: what you did is utterly wrong. what do you want to accomplish?
 - i've set up port forwarding here - http://imagebin.org/164418
[10:49] <Joshun> but it still doesn't work
[10:49] <Joshun> when you do ssh 86.184.190.79
[10:49] <soulis77-SE> I just want to set it up correct. I have had some issues since the hostname is numbers.vps.fsdata.se and the hostname -f  is only numbers
[10:49] <rigved> wols_: is this line correct to add to my lucid install: deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maveric-updates main multiverse
[10:50] <wols_> rigved: why maverick updates and not just maverick?
[10:50] <wols_> rigved: but if ffmpeg is in maverick-updates then that's fine
[10:50] <rigved> wols_: any is fine with me. i just need ffmpeg 0.6 to play .webm files
[10:50] <th0r> Joshun: do you have the ssh server installed and running?
[10:50] <Joshun> yes it is running fine
[10:50] <Joshun> works under the local network
[10:51] <Joshun> but not over the internet th0r
[10:51] <antivirtel> hello! How does that card/transformer called, with what I can use a GDI printer under UNIX (I needed for ubuntu, but it is usually made for Mac)?
[10:51] <rigved> wols_: so, maverick or maverick-updates? i just thought that the updates will give me more stabler version? just a thought...
[10:52] <wols_> rigved: just try it. dunno if ffmpeg is in m-updates. you will find out tho
[10:52] <wildgoose> Joshun: Do you have an option to manually set the ports being forwarded?
[10:52] <TBotNik> tomodachi: Wrote this up at:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11076068#post11076068  I had found a HOWTO on bridging, but working with mordy on #linux was not able to make it work.  last attempt I manually entered: "ip addr del 192.168.1.2/24 dev wlan0; brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 wlan0; brctl addif br0 eth0; ip addr add 192.168.1.2/24 dev br0" @ cmd line and that took me down and had to reboot, so still totally stumped on this
[10:52] <Sidewinder1> !printer | antivirtel
[10:52] <Joshun> wildgoose - see here: http://imagebin.org/164418
[10:52] <rigved> wols_: i checked it via packages.ubuntu.com. it's there. okk. so trying maverick-updates. then i'll get the source
[10:53] <wildgoose> Joshun: I saw that, which is why I asked.
[10:53] <wols_> rigved: -t maverick in your apt-get source line btw
[10:53] <soulis77-SE> wols_:  The default setup in the hostname file is: xxxx.vps.fsdata.se and nothing else.
[10:53] <Joshun> that has been manually set though
[10:53] <Joshun> ssh is port 22
[10:53] <dr_willis> Joshun:  i set mine up so i ssh to   'ssh theip.of.my.router port 7777' it forwards port 7777 to the ssh server
[10:53] <antivirtel> Sidewinder1 I have a Konica Minolta bizhub 211, what is unsupported under Linux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1590592
[10:53] <dr_willis> I dont just forward port 22 -> 22. i use a custome port# going to 22
[10:54] <rigved> wols_: what does the -t option do?
[10:54] <Joshun> what would be the ssh command for that
[10:54] <antivirtel> Sidewinder1 I want to know that thing's name!+
[10:54] <Joshun> and how would you set it up in homehub3
[10:54] <wols_> soulis77-SE: answer my question: what do you want to accomplish. and no, a FQDN in /etc/hostname is bad
[10:54] <vanquish349> i am so confused, i press alt-f2 and put it xkill and press enter and the x for cursor doesnt come up
[10:55] <sbeck> vanquish349, kde ?
[10:55] <wildgoose> Joshun: man ssh
[10:56] <dr_willis> ssh has a -p port# option........
[10:56] <ZykoticK9> rigved, the -t tells apt/aptitude what repository to install from
[10:56] <dr_willis> if you use dyndns you can set up a nice name..  and ssh yourdyndns.org -p 3333
[10:56] <Sidewinder1> antivirtel, If your printer is unsupported, it probably won't work in linux; that is the manufacturer's fault!
[10:57] <dr_willis> assuming the router forwards port 3333 to the right box.
[10:57] <vanquish349> sbeck: ?
[10:57] <Joshun> wildgoose - is this the right command? ssh -R 7777:86.184.190.79:22
[10:57] <antivirtel> Sidewinder1 yeah, I know, but I want to check that card's price on ebay!
[10:57] <oCean> Joshun: I think your ssh forward does work
[10:57] <wols_> Joshun: first, manage to actually login to your ubuntu before doing port forwarding
[10:57] <rigved> ZykoticK9: ok. thanks
[10:58] <sbeck> vanquish349, kde or gnome?
[10:58] <venol> hello, I have little problem with mailgraph, I have mail server Postfix 2.7 on ubuntu 10.04 with amavisd-new, spamassassin, and clamav to filter bad email. I Start my server for 3 hours and make some email to send to another domain, and then I'm use mailgraph to monitoring my postfix server. But for 3 hours, Why I see graph on mailgraph for last week is more than last day? sent Item for last day I see is 193 message, But for last week is 218...
[10:58] <Joshun> wols_ it logs in fine over the local network, i just want to port forward
[10:58] <oCean> Joshun: really, it works
[10:58] <jono> hi all
[10:58] <soulis77-SE> wols_ I had issues with mail server behfore and it had problems with the hostname (only numbers). But to be honest I'm following a step by step instruction for setting up my ubuntu 10.04 vps server to use with Drupal.
[10:58] <Joshun> i have forwarded port 7777 to port ssh, so what would be the ssh command to connect to it?
[10:59] <vanquish349> sbeck: ubuntu 11.04 unity
[10:59] <Deesl> hello. trying to setup IPSEC using Racoon. This is the error I get http://pastebin.com/8LViJu4L Can someone help me understand what is going wrong here?
[10:59] <Guest7870> i want to ask about LTSP, anyone can help?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: ssh -X -C user@host -p 7777
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !ltsp | Guest7870
[10:59] <oCean> Joshun: your setup was already correct - i could connect (and still can @ port 22)
[10:59] <wildgoose> Joshun: It works, try again.
[10:59] <wols_> soulis77-SE: In /etc/hostname the ONLY thing in there is the actual hostname. NOTHING else. and I can't see how this is relevant for drupal
[11:00] <wildgoose> oCean, Joshun: I can ssh to port 22 as well
[11:00] <Guest7870> can i integrate it to a Wind*ws
[11:00] <Guest7870> client
[11:00] <wols_> soulis77-SE: the network is resolved via hosts, dns or whatever else nsswitch.conf defines.
[11:00] <oCean> wildgoose: Joshun I've been trying to tell that for a while now :/
[11:00] <sbeck> vanquish349, sorry. I tried unity and immediately switched to kde
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest7870: should be ok
[11:00] <Joshun> ssh: Could not resolve hostname 7777:86.184.190.79: Name or service not known
[11:00] <sbeck> So I can't help here.
[11:01] <vanquish349> sbeck: i hate it to but i dont want to have to reinstall linux again
[11:01] <Joshun> joshua@joshua-laptop:~$ ssh 86.184.190.79
[11:01] <Joshun> that just gets stuck with a cursor
[11:01] <Guest7870> or there's any technology like LTSP that can run in multiple platform
[11:01] <wols_> vanquish349: just cause you don't like a certain DE doesn't mean you have to reinstall the OS...
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: ssh -X -C joshua@86.184.190.79 -p 7777
[11:02] <oCean> ActionParsnip: it's still @ port 22 - connecting at 22 succeeds just fine
[11:02] <Joshun> ActionParsnip - still gets stuck
[11:02] <Joshun> maybe its just because its a homehub 3
[11:02] <Joshun> and they suck
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> oCean: I see
[11:02] <oCean> Joshun: no
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: did you change the port forward in router?
[11:02] <vanquish349> wols_: how else do it then
[11:02] <demian> ?
[11:02] <Joshun> i did, see the screenshot
[11:02] <oCean> Joshun: I've been trying to tell you that the forward is OK (not 7777, but still default port 22)
[11:03] <vanquish349> i have only just gone from windows to ubuntu so i dont know much
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: then reboot you router, see if it helps. Cheap home grade routers need rebooting
[11:03] <Joshun> http://imagebin.org/164418
[11:03] <oCean> Joshun: the fact that you cannot connect from your local network might be a setup/routing issue, or even some firewall issue at the hub
[11:03] <wols_> vanquish349: do what?
[11:03] <Joshun> i'll reboot the router and see if that helps
[11:03] <wols_> !classic | vanquish349
[11:03] <oCean> Joshun: your machine can now be reached from all of the internet at port 22 !
[11:03] <demian> still confuse
[11:03] <vanquish349> wols_: thanksyou
[11:04] <soulis77-SE> wols_: I'm following http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx-ispconfig-2-p3   I have set the hosts file, next is to do the "echo server1.example.com > /etc/hostname" and restart  hostname.
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Joshun: there is no description of the port number there, it only says SSH, which by default will be port 22
[11:04] <dr_willis> one good reason to not use port 22 by default. :)
[11:05] <wols_> soulis77-SE: and what is your actual problem you need help with?
[11:05] <dr_willis> if you have more then 1 box. you could set up for example port 7128 to go to machine 192.168.1.128   port 7129 to go to 192.168.1.129 and so on.
[11:05] <demian> I want to build a computer lab for student so that they can learn
[11:05] <Olotila> I seriously crashed ubuntu
[11:05] <demian> the problem is the software
[11:05] <Olotila> got kernel panic
[11:06] <Olotila> i got pic i took with camera, what is the easiest way to share it?
[11:06] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[11:06] <Olotila> i dont understand the stuff in it
[11:06] <demian> you know they still used a microsoft word, powerpoint, excel
[11:06] <wols_> demian: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[11:07] <demian> yes i do
[11:07] <demian> i want to build a server with ubuntu
[11:07] <vanquish349> demian: that is a statement not a question
[11:07] <razz11> how to check the progress of this command #dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/<drive> bs=4096?
[11:07] <soulis77-SE> wols_: I got problems with postfix since the myhostname was a number
[11:07] <wols_> razz11: you can't
[11:07] <demian> and LTSP
[11:08] <staccers> wtf, its like a bug or something.. im trying to upload a picture from ubuntu, in ubuntu it tells me the picture is the right way, but when im uploading it it not the right way.. i change the alignment in ubuntu but no change there.. what to do..or what do u think the issue is?
[11:08] <demian> but
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> razz11: sadly you can't, you can heck its status in the output of: top
[11:08] <wols_> demian: I still don't see a questionmark anywhere. use your enter key less and write it in a single line please
[11:08] <wols_> staccers: define "right way"
[11:09] <no-name-> does ubuntu / linux have good driver support for ATI graphics cards?
[11:09] <wols_> no-name-: yes
[11:09] <staccers> Wols_ uhm, the alignment is right in ubuntu, when im uploading it, it gets the wrong alignment, i change the alignment in ubuntu, but no change when im uploading it.
[11:09] <no-name-> the one I am getting is probably a HD6770
[11:09] <no-name-> ok cool
[11:10] <wols_> staccers: what is an alignment in the context of an image file?
[11:10] <demian> can each computer in a thin client have a wind*ws look like? and run a software like word procesing
[11:10] <demian> cause the student still use that software
[11:10] <staccers> Wols_ image file, a picture of my dog.
[11:10] <demian> sorry for a bad english
[11:10] <staccers> demain yes.
[11:11] <razz11> ActionParsnip: I am running this command from a live USB image to my internal hard drive, I don't see my hard drive light flashing
[11:11] <demian> can anyone show me the demo :D
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> razz11: hmm, i'd check top, see what's shaking
[11:11] <wols_> demian: if you want to run LTSP, the students cannot run word and excel
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> demian: check youtube
[11:11] <demian> if i install it on a server?
[11:11] <lv_> demian: you can run windows inside virtualbox
[11:12] <wols_> demian: they cannot, period.
[11:12] <lv_> demian: google virtualbox
[11:12] <venol> hello, I have little problem with mailgraph, I have mail server Postfix 2.7 on ubuntu 10.04 with amavisd-new, spamassassin, and clamav to filter bad email. I Start my server for 3 hours and make some email to send to another domain, and then I'm use mailgraph to monitoring my postfix server. But for 3 hours, Why I see graph on mailgraph for last week is more than last day? sent Item for last day I see is 193 message, But for last week is 218...
[11:12] <staccers> demain http://ubuntu.online02.com/node/14
[11:13] <lv_> venol: maybe reading the graph wrong. check the output of /var/log/maillog or such deriviate
[11:13] <demian> either i install a windows look like on a server, a client computer can't run it?
[11:13] <Gartral> hey all, im having trouble with a Bluetooth radio, 90% of the time it works fine, but once in a while, like now, it keeps turning on and off rapidly.. it's an atheros but i dont remember the modle number
[11:13] <venol> lv_:Thanks for your reply.
[11:13] <amanforindia> hello all
[11:13] <dr_willis> demian:  if you need a linux desktop that looks similer to  the classic windows 95, thats doable..
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> demian: you can use tsclient from ubuntu to connct to windows terminal services, you will obviously need to buy the number of licenses you require for the server
[11:14] <wols_> demian: you can't run Word/Excel on a Windows look-a-like but only on real Windows
[11:14] <venol> lv_: I make sure installation is correct, But I don't know how mailgraph works. Maybe do you know ? thanks for  your advance
[11:14] <bsmith093> uptime lists two users , both the same name?
[11:14] <amanforindia> what to do about bad mic quality??
[11:14] <razz11> ActionParsnip: dd is definitely stressing the CPU, so there is no way to check if it's writing data to the disk?
[11:14] <demian> i mean use the wine
[11:14] <staccers> demain but, to run software made for windows, u need to run it trough Wine
[11:14] <wols_> staccers: WINE doesn't work so well for recent MS Office versions
[11:15] <ayaka> which music play can read cue file?
[11:15] <wols_> demian: how old is your word/excèl?
[11:15] <demian> 2007
[11:15] <razz11> #fedora
[11:15] <wols_> demian: too new. see appdb.winehq.org
[11:15] <dr_willis> a cue file is just part of a combo (cue/bin) files that show how things are to go on a burnable disk. Vlc I belive can play cue/bin files...
[11:15] <staccers> amanforindia lower microfone boost or outbound to 0 and step it up intill you got the quality you want.
[11:15] <dr_willis> or you can convert to iso.
[11:16] <Gartral> ayaka: VLC can, but Cue files require a large Wav which is a direct dump of a cd
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> razz11: not to my knowledge
[11:16] <demian> i know but the curriculum use it
[11:17] <staccers> wols_ true.. but there is allways a solution :) openoffice with MS skin ;)
[11:17] <ayaka> Gartral, not I want a music player which can classfy music and flac and ape also use cue
[11:19] <demian> sorry just for sure
[11:19] <Jmoey> ActionParsnip: is this right - http://imagebin.org/164421
[11:19] <demian> whether all the applications and views that exist on the LTSP server can be used on client computers
[11:19] <Jmoey> sorry my nick has changed from Joshun to Jmoey
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Jmoey: you need to put the 7777 in the port range on that page dude, I'd hunt around for a manual on your router to see what it expects
[11:20] <demian> any suggest?
[11:21] <Jmoey> ActionParsnip - i did and i clicked 'Add' - which is why it is in the list
[11:21] <Olotila> here is pic
[11:21] <Olotila> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/33630703/IMG634.jpg
[11:21] <Olotila> the first 2 things are not important atm
[11:21] <Jmoey> ActionParsnip - it is in the list as 'TCP	7777	22'
[11:21] <Olotila> but the stuff after run-init is
[11:21] <Olotila> my /home is still full
[11:22] <Olotila> gparted will not start
[11:22] <Oxymoron> Does anyone know what SOnos player is?
[11:22] <Olotila> gparted says
[11:22] <Olotila> Inhibit all polling failed: Only uid 0 is authorized to inhibit the daemon
[11:22] <SomeoneWeird> sudo
[11:23] <Olotila> i am in failsafe mode now
[11:23] <wols_> Oxymoron: google does. therefore: ask google. we only know what ubuntu is and don't care about the rest
[11:23] <wols_> Olotila: fdisk -l ?
[11:23] <Olotila> lol, thanks someonewierd :D
[11:23] <Gartral> !google | wols_
[11:23] <g0t_> Results for | wols_ on Google:
[11:23] <g0t__> Results for | wols_ on Google:
[11:23] <g0t> Results for | wols_ on Google:
[11:23] <g0t_> --
[11:23] <g0t__> --
[11:23] <g0t> --
[11:23] <FloodBot1> g0t_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <FloodBot1> g0t__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:23] <wols_> Gartral: is Sonos Ubuntu?
[11:23] <Gartral> wols_: no cle
[11:23] <Gartral> clue
[11:24] <Oxymoron> wols_: lol xD I need help b ecause Google does not have the answer. I want Sonos Player Desktop COntroller work on Ubuntu ;)
[11:24] <blink> Linux kernel 3 is out, what difference would it make for me to update??
[11:24] <wols_> Gartral: that's the reason why you should be quiet
[11:24] <dr_willis> i recall some home media server device called a sonos....
[11:24] <Gartral> wols_: now your just being rude
[11:24] <wols_> dr_willis: yep
[11:24]  * wols_ puts Gartral on ignore
[11:24] <demian> hmm ...
[11:24] <wols_> blink: none. update is not supported either
[11:24] <Olotila> my disk has lots of space
[11:25] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Do you know how to make the desktop controller work on Linux? Wine does not even start the Windows binay file and I cannot found a native Linux binary vrsion? :S
[11:25] <racheal> hi
[11:25] <wols_> Olotila: it's not the space that is the problem but that your kernel didn't find sdd and sde me thinks
[11:25] <Gartral> Olotila: open a terminal and type df -h, what's the result?
[11:25] <dr_willis> Oxymoron:  a sonos remote controller? no idea..
[11:25] <dr_willis> Oxymoron:  it may not be doable.
[11:26] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Uhm kind of. I have it on my iPhone and Windows. But I cannot make the ********** thing work on Linux.
[11:26] <wols_> Olotila: I suggest you ask the folks who sold you the hardware
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: the windows binary is of no value to you.
[11:26] <wols_> Oxymoron: ^^
[11:26] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: I saw someone said Wine could make a old version of it work ...
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: run: lsusb    the output will show the ID of the USB connecter it talks to, you can use that to find guides
[11:26] <racheal> whenever i am booting my laptop and selecting ubuntu 10.10 i get init ureadhead main process (268) terminated with status 5 and then a violet screen occurs which never dissapears.. pls help me solve this
[11:26] <Olotila> Gartral:
[11:26] <Olotila> /dev/loop0            5,6G  4,5G  780M  86% /
[11:26] <Olotila> none                  3,0G  744K  3,0G   1% /dev
[11:26] <Olotila> none                  3,0G  208K  3,0G   1% /dev/shm
[11:26] <Olotila> none                  3,0G   88K  3,0G   1% /var/run
[11:26] <FloodBot1> Olotila: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <Olotila> none                  3,0G     0  3,0G   0% /var/lock
[11:27] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: It is not by USB ... it is wifi controlled.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: so what is this "desktop controller"?
[11:27] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Though you maybe could tell me how to make HDMI output work instead? :P
[11:27] <wols_> !private | soulis77-SE
[11:28] <demian> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEs2AWFTWc
[11:28] <dr_willis> hdmi is just plug and play here for me.. :)
[11:28] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: The Sonos Desktop Controller is able to index all music collection, play, change media channel, volume and so on for all Sonos devices in the wifi network ;)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: I'm not too good on sound
[11:28] <demian> i found it
[11:28] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: HDMI is about video and sound ;)
[11:28] <soulis77-SE> Hi, Going to type following for postconfig:    postconf -e 'myhostname = server1.example.com'    Should I use the full hostname I get when typing "hostname" or should I use what I get when typing hostname -f ?`
[11:28] <demian> is it wine?
[11:28] <racheal> whenever i am booting my laptop and selecting ubuntu 10.10 i get init ureadhead main process (268) terminated with status 5 and then a violet screen occurs which never dissapears.. pls help me solve this
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: i know what it is, i'm just no good at gettng sound through it
[11:29] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Not for me, nothing happens on my screen. I think the problem is Intel integrated graphics or old nvidia circuit ... But on Windows it works out of the box xD
[11:29] <Oxymoron> There is no signal at all to my TV.
[11:30] <Oxymoron> And in monitor multiple screen settings it not found at all.
[11:30] <dr_willis> if its a laptop theres that fn-XXX key that can toggle displays
[11:31] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Toogle displays? And what more than fn button?
[11:31] <dr_willis> is it a laptop Oxymoron ?
[11:31] <racheal_>  whenever i am booting my laptop and selecting ubuntu 10.10 i get init ureadhead main process (268) terminated with status 5 and then a violet screen occurs which never dissapears.. pls help me solve this
[11:31] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: I have some kind of dual link, so I can switch graphic card. But I am not sure how it works.
[11:31] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Yes it is a laptop
[11:31] <dr_willis> dual link? Is this a laptop? or what exactly?
[11:31] <Olotila> i could now try to get more space to /home, how do i do it with gparted?
[11:32] <wols_> Oxymoron: read up on vgaswitcheroo
[11:32] <wols_> dr_willis: optimus
[11:32] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Laptop and dual link graphics or something like it.
[11:32] <dr_willis> Optimus dual GPU New Laptop.... Good Luck....... :)
[11:32] <Olotila> that is when this started, /home got full
[11:32] <dr_willis> I havent even seen one of those in person yet..
[11:32] <demian> mr wols_ any suggest? :D
[11:32] <Oxymoron> I am using Asus UL30VT if that say somethings
[11:32] <soulis77-SE> Hi, Going to type following for postconfig:    postconf -e 'myhostname = server1.example.com'    Should I enter the full hostname at myhostname I get when typing "hostname" or should I use what I get when typing hostname -f ?`
[11:33] <dr_willis> Olotila:  You can use gparted to resize existing partitions and merge  unallocated space into it.
[11:33] <dr_willis> Olotila:  unless the freespace is at the far end of the drive.. if so. that may take some mpore work.
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: apparently the 1.3 version of wine makes it work but really badly
[11:33] <Olotila> i got 17.79 GiB free space
[11:34] <Gartral> hey all, im having trouble with a Bluetooth radio, 90% of the time it works fine, but once in a while, like now, it keeps turning on and off rapidly.. it's an atheros but i dont remember the modle number
[11:34] <dr_willis> Olotila:  free space where.. You may want to pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for the channel to read
[11:34] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Really, the beta version?
[11:35] <Oxymoron> This is the nVidia hybrid settings for my grpahics: http://pastebin.com/JwvtSrf6
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: yeah the wine ppa has it
[11:36] <Olotila> it is bloody big paste, it will flood this channel
[11:37] <SomeoneWeird> http://pastie.com
[11:37] <SomeoneWeird> err
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: remove the version you have now, install wine1.3 then run the app, may help. There is a toll free number to call for support too (check website)
[11:37] <SomeoneWeird> .org
[11:37] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: I think it is in repisotiroies as well ;)
[11:37] <Olotila> this is also in finnish, can i somehow make it in english?
[11:37] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Isnt there any live support? :D I hate phone support xD
[11:38] <dr_willis> Phone isent live?
[11:38] <Sidewinder1> !pastebinit > Olotila
[11:39] <dr_willis> 'If you are using linux, press 1' --> 'we dont support linux. have a nice day, click...'
[11:39] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: But I dont understand, when I install wine it installs a lot of packages. But when I remove wine it does not remove the other packages? :D
[11:39] <Gartral> Oxymoron: apt-get autoremove
[11:39] <Oxymoron> dr_willis: Hahah lol ... I meant live chat support :D
[11:40] <coffieman> hey guys , i can't share my internet connection through wifi adhoc, any solutions??????????????
[11:40] <coffieman> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[11:40] <Oxymoron> Gartral: Yea, but it should automaticly remove it when I remove the app itself. Related packages ...
[11:40] <Oxymoron> Only one way solution, not bothways xD
[11:41] <coffieman>  i am using BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n wifi card
[11:41] <racheal_>  whenever i am booting my laptop and selecting ubuntu 10.10 i get init ureadhead main process (268) terminated with status 5 and then a violet screen occurs which never dissapears.. pls help me solve this
[11:43] <Oxymoron> Btw I must lol one thing. My wifi only works when starting the desktop. BUT when I go to recovery mode in network version, I cannot connect to internet wifi? :D How the *** should I be able to fix things then?
[11:43] <Jmoey> racheal_ - try sudo rm /var/lib/ureadahead/pack
[11:43] <coffieman> sorry i am using ubuntu 10.10
[11:43] <Gartral> Oxymoron: the reason it doesn't is because you're removing a metapackage, you should try removing te wine-data package ;)
[11:43] <coffieman> plz help me geeks
[11:43] <racheal_> jmoey : try from where?
[11:43] <Jmoey> from a command line
[11:43] <coffieman> i am new to ubuntu
[11:43] <racheal_> jmoey : i dont get any commandline
[11:44] <racheal_> Jmoey : i dont get any commandline
[11:44] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Thanks for tiping regarding Wine 1.3. You know why 1.3 works but n.2? :Pot 1
[11:44] <Jmoey> racheal_ - go into the terminal. If you are using gnome2 then do Applications>Accessories>Terminal. Under unity click the ubuntu logo and type terminal
[11:44] <Jmoey> that is if you are using unity
[11:44] <Oxymoron> Gartral: Hmm, but meta or not it should be remove all related.
[11:44] <racheal_> Jmoey : i told right, i am unable to even login
[11:45] <Jmoey> racheal_ - log into a tty (control-alt-f1) and run dmesg | less
[11:45] <Jmoey> see if there are any errors
[11:45] <Gartral> Oxymoron: there's method behind that madness: sometimes another application could use libs or other parts of a program, even if the main program isn't there
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: wine is a weird creature, your app obviously needs the extra features. I suggest you contact the Sonos guys to get them to make a Linux client. They make an android one, so why not :)
[11:46] <wh1zz0> Please guys, what do I press when my computer enters suspend mode. when ever it does, my caps locks and lock buttons keep flashing and I don't know how to resume my machine back.. So I usually press and hold the power button till it goes off (which is bad for the machine). Please what do I press to resume each time it suspends?
[11:46] <racheal_> Jmoey : i cant login so how will i press control alt f1?
[11:46] <Jmoey> racheal_ do it anyway
[11:46] <Jmoey> you don't need to login to do it
[11:46] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Hehe I think people already did. But they know most people using Mac OS or Windows and they are focus on paying customers I guess .... But sure I can ask. Took a heck long time for SPotify to make a QT client :P
[11:46] <racheal_> its not possable unless i login or something
[11:46] <Jmoey> its a system-wide shortcut
[11:47] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: The Sonos controller works pretty well I must say :)
[11:47] <Oxymoron> in wine
[11:47] <racheal_> Jmoey : ok i will try
[11:47] <Gartral> wh1zz0: the flashing Lock lights indicate there was a BIOS halt.. the best thing to do is disable S1 in BIOS and try again, if that doesn't work, don't suspend
[11:47] <Jmoey> rachael_ - if that doesn't work do alt+sysq+r
[11:47] <Oxymoron> Gartral: Well, then they check if the package is related ONLY to the removing package or not :D
[11:47] <Jmoey> and then do control alt f1
[11:48] <Sidewinder1> !reisub | wh1zz0
[11:48] <Gartral> Oxymoron: that was an old behavior, but some packages don't request a lock on dependencies right, so that feature was dropped
[11:48] <Oxymoron> BAH Q4wine is not support version 1.3 ...
[11:49] <Oxymoron> Gartral: Why not fix those packages instead of drop the feature? :P
[11:50] <Oxymoron> So now, how do I fix hdmi for this hybrid grpahics: "http://pastebin.com/JwvtSrf6"
[11:51] <Night-hacks>  is there anyWay to understand Kernel Memory usage ?
[11:51] <wh1zz0> Gartral:  I only clicked on it once to see what the suspend does.... and since then when my pc is idle it just does that instead of the normal loc screen
[11:51] <blinkyb> flash is extremely slow here! how can i fix that? ram is fine, plus am only running firefox to watch youtube.
[11:52] <Oxymoron> blinkyb: You remove flash ;)
[11:52] <Oxymoron> Youtube should support HTML5 video ...
[11:52] <Jmoey> blinkyb - enable/disable hardware acceleration
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> !flash > blinkyb
[11:52] <Gartral> Oxymoron: that's not helpful
[11:52] <Jmoey> for flash that is
[11:53] <Gartral> blinkyb: try youtube.com/html5 and see if that improves performance
[11:53] <blinkyb> Jmoey I disabled that already
[11:53] <Pyraine> I am having a problem which is probably going to take more than a single line to explain.. what do?
[11:53] <wh1zz0> ubottu: But that would still reboot right??
[11:53] <Gartral> wh1zz0: you can change that in power settings
[11:53] <Oxymoron> Pyraine: Explain the prob first ;)
[11:53] <jymmy> hi
[11:54] <wh1zz0> Yes I set it never to suspend
[11:54] <wh1zz0> So I wonder why it keeps doing that
[11:54] <Oxymoron> Pyraine: Write everything ;)
[11:54] <Jmoey> blinkyb - try using another web browser e.g google chrome - google chrome has an intergrated flash plugin
[11:54] <jrib> Pyraine: explain the problem in one line.  Include details in a pastebin
[11:54] <Oxymoron> Pyraine: If it is code to explain, use pastebin ;)
[11:54] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, Yes, reisub will force a reboot but it's MUCH better than holding the power button.
[11:54] <Oxymoron> Pyraine: www.pastebin.com
[11:54] <Pyraine> Well, to try make it as basic as possible, my laptop is only playing audio out of the subwoofer as opposed to the stereo speakers
[11:54] <Olotila> can i change ubuntu language to english?
[11:54] <Jmoey> blinkyb - what graphics card do you have?
[11:54] <wh1zz0> Please how can I disable suspend totally.. It's really annoying as I keep losing my data
[11:56] <Pyraine> I made a post on the forums about it, but that got pushed back to page 2 overnight with no replies
[11:56] <coffieman> please help me guys????????///
[11:56] <dli> wh1zz0, did you try power manager?
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, Have you tried System--> Preferrences--> Power Management?
[11:56] <Oxymoron> I have one question, if one grpahic circuit is defect or Asus made a huge mistake with hbrid grpahics, which freezes computer once in a while. Not yet any freeze in Linux as it seems hybrid not even work in Ubuntu. Is it possible to work it out or do I have to yell at Asus in the phone and say how incompetent they are and give me a new laptop? :D
[11:56] <jrib> Pyraine: has this always happened?
[11:56] <wh1zz0> Yea.. I just checked everything again and set it to never and hibernate
[11:57] <Pyraine> jrib: While using this laptop yes
[11:57] <jrib> Pyraine: maybe play with alsamixer or pavucontrol
[11:57] <oCean> Oxymoron: that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:57] <wh1zz0> It set it before .. and anytime my pc is idle it just locks the screen
[11:57] <Gartral> wh1zz0: hibernate is NOT suspend! those are two different functions
[11:57] <wh1zz0> But today dunno why it keeps suspending
[11:58] <wh1zz0> Yes I know they are different
[11:58] <wh1zz0> I mean... I never had it on suspend
[11:58] <Pyraine> jrib: in Windows I have a similar issue, in the audio preferences when choosing the output I can choose one that is stereo speaker or one that is sub woofer
[11:58] <Oxymoron> oCean: Are you sure? :P Maybe ubuntu does some graph-fu and jump over the problem of grpahics? :P
[11:58] <wh1zz0> That's why I keep wondering why it just does what it likes
[11:58] <jrib> Pyraine: see if either of those two programs offer you a similar option
[11:58] <Pyraine> jrib: however on here, in the sound preferences I can only choose sub woofer, the other option is muted
[11:58] <oCean> Oxymoron: drop it please
[11:59] <Oxymoron> oCean: Alright, goes offtopic :P
[11:59] <coffieman> hey how to share Internet connection through wifi adhoc??????????????????????????????
[11:59] <oCean> coffieman: please calm down
[12:00] <coffieman> oCean:hey why these guys are not helping
[12:00] <coz_> coffieman,  you have to remember that people here are volunteers
[12:00] <oCean> coffieman: describe your issue (detailed, your hardware, what have you tried etc) in single line. Then wait.
[12:01] <Olotila> thanks Sidewinder1 !
[12:01] <Olotila> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650566/
[12:01] <coz_> coffieman,  they will help when they can,,, the people here are bright,, knowlegeable, and more than willing to help,, they also work,, have families, and if the baby needs a diaper changed,,,well you get the picture :)
[12:02] <coffieman> oCean:i need to share the net connection through wifi adhoc,but i can't? i have ubuntu 10.10 and wifi card BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n with driver wl0
[12:02] <oCean> !ics | coffieman have you seen this
[12:06] <Pyraine> jrib: I just had quite an extensive play around with the applications you suggested, but they're literally as useful as the Sound Preferences in this scenario.
[12:08] <Olotila> so my user id is "ohto", and usage for folder "ohto" is 100%
[12:09] <Olotila> max size is 383,6 MB
[12:09] <dr_willis> we got a comma in the wrong place there?
[12:09] <Olotila> why is it so small and how can I increase the size?
[12:09] <dr_willis> or is that a decimal point? max size = 386 mb?
[12:09] <dr_willis> this is a wubi install or a normal install?
[12:10] <jiltdil> How do I scan my Linux system for rootkits, worms, trojans, etc.?
[12:10] <Olotila> Filesystem is 29,9GB and free is 18,8GB
[12:10] <bazhang> jiltdil, rkhunter chkrootkit
[12:10] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, rkhunter is one option
[12:10] <Alien_go> excuse me can I use the  alien starship whit ubuntu?
[12:10] <jiltdil> bazhang:Zykotick9:is it s/w
[12:11] <bazhang> jiltdil, yes of course
[12:11] <ZykoticK9> jiltdil, yes, and both should be in default ubuntu repo
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: rkhunter can scan a system
[12:11] <MrShuken> Hi people :D
[12:11] <coz_> hey
[12:11] <jiltdil> bazhang:Zykotick9:thanks
[12:11] <Olotila> but when i look at Properties of folder "ohto", it says free space 768,1MB
[12:12] <Olotila> i dont get it
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> jiltdil, You may want to have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 If you haven't already.
[12:12] <goodtime> is there anyway to get World of Warcraft to work on Linux
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[12:12] <dr_willis> !appdb | goodtime
[12:12] <wols_> goodtime: yes. see appdb.winehq.org
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> jiltdil, It's a few years odl but still valid.
[12:12] <Alien_go> Go MrShuken
[12:12] <Sidewinder1> old, even. :-(
[12:12] <bazhang> Alien_go, actual support question?
[12:13] <heng0> hello. the touchpad on my netbook is broken (acer). the cursor just jumps around in the upper corner when i try to use it. I think this is a udev problem as it works in debian squeeze, any suggestions?
[12:13] <Alien_go> excuse me can I use the alien starship with ubuntu?
[12:13] <bazhang> !ot | Alien_go
[12:13] <wh1zz0> Please guys, help me. it just happened again
[12:13] <coz_> wh1zz0,  what has happened again?  I apprenlty wasnt here for your first posting about it
[12:13] <wh1zz0> Screen just goes blank and the two buttons start blinking.. and even when I pressed Aft PrntScreen and then REISUB.. nothing happens
[12:14] <wh1zz0> My machine keeps suspending
[12:14] <wh1zz0> And I set it not to in power management
[12:14] <dr_willis> sure its not just crashing....
[12:15] <wh1zz0> Not crashing .. just goes on suspension. It never happened before until today when I decided to click on it to see what it does.. Ever sinc ethen, each time PC becomes idle it just enters suspend mode
[12:15] <wh1zz0> And I have to press and hold my power button to reboot.. I keep losing my data
[12:16] <wh1zz0> Please how can I disable suspension totally
[12:16] <wh1zz0> I hate it
[12:16] <I_L_Microsoft> hi
[12:17] <Windows> Windows FOOOORRRRREVERRRRRRRRRRR
[12:17] <wh1zz0> :(
[12:17] <bazhang> I_L_Microsoft, support question?
[12:17] <freddy__> I have an ubuntu server that runs raid1. One of the disks have failed and now I want to change it. But when I change it I cannot boot! So I suspects that my something is wrong with my grub. If I go into grup and fires off 'find /boot/grub/stage1 ' I get (hd0.0)(hd1,0). Does this mean that I have grub installed on both drives ?
[12:17] <I_L_Microsoft> ?
[12:18] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: can you take a screenshot of your power management settings?
[12:18] <bazhang> I_L_Microsoft, this is ubuntu support. did you have a support question?
[12:18] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Okay one sec
[12:18] <dli> freddy__, raid1 means images
[12:18] <I_L_Microsoft> No, i'm here to listen.
[12:18] <heng0> hello. the touchpad on my netbook is broken (acer). the cursor just jumps around crazy. I think this is a udev problem as it works in debian squeeze, any suggestions?
[12:19] <I_L_Microsoft> sorry for bad english :P
[12:19] <freddy__> dli: ok - not sure what you mean by that ?
[12:19] <Windows> What i can use the windows programmers on ubuntu?
[12:19] <bazhang> Windows, wine
[12:19] <bazhang> !wine | Windows
[12:19] <dli> freddy__, you can boot from either one
[12:19] <SomeoneWeird> drink lots
[12:19] <wdp_buntu> hey. i'm having a little bit trouble with an ati card in Ubuntu (started with lts 10.04, upgrades to 10.10, upgrades to the newest also, the problem is in all three versions) -> While showing the login or shutdown screen i'm getting some flickers, when i start music in rythmbox i get flicker as soon as the visualization is started. Glxgears causes no flicker. disabling Compiz doesn't help.
[12:19] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi ubuntu 10.10 firefox 3.6.8 cant visualize any text on the browser, tried with other browser but nothing. even tried to make a new user but also from that one nothing changes. help (i dont even have a way to search this on the web to find a workaround cuz i cant read anything)
[12:19] <bazhang> Windows, /join #winehq
[12:19] <goodtime> how do i unistall with the terminal
[12:19] <bazhang> goodtime, remove what
[12:19] <Windows> bazhang thank you
[12:20] <goodtime> wine
[12:20] <bazhang> goodtime, sudo apt-get remove packagename
[12:20] <telxt> anyone does know a good iptc-editor for linux?
[12:20] <bazhang> !apt-get > goodtime
[12:20] <freddy__> dli: ok - but this is what I cannot do in practice ... so I need to somewhat find out why... you tell me that the the reason cannot be grub ?
[12:20] <wdp_buntu> i already searched on the web, tho people report to have that problems with fglrx; i'm not using fglrx i'm using ati kms ^^. It's an RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]. Anyone any idea?
[12:21] <I_L_Microsoft> What is bettere, OpenSUSE or Ubuntu?
[12:21] <I_L_Microsoft> *is better
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> I_L_Microsoft: both and neither
[12:21] <wdp_buntu> I_L_Microsoft, wrong question. What is better, a car or a motorcycle?
[12:21] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi ubuntu 10.10 firefox 3.6.8 cant visualize any text on the browser, tried with other browser but nothing. even tried to make a new user but also from that one nothing changes. help (i dont even have a way to search this on the web to find a workaround cuz i cant read anything)
[12:21] <ThinkT510> !poll | I_L_Microsoft
[12:21] <bazhang> I_L_Microsoft, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[12:21] <telxt> anyone does know a good iptc-editor for linux?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> I_L_Microsoft: which is better, blue or red?
[12:22] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, lets move on please
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> I_L_Microsoft: I_L_Microsoft its a nonsensical question
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: done
[12:22] <freddy__> dli: just seems that if I change the bad disk, grub does not start up, if I change the good disk, grub starts up but cannot find anything to boot ..
[12:22] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/screenshotcao.png/
[12:22] <goodtime> ok ty ubottu
[12:22] <I_L_Microsoft> mh
[12:23] <I_L_Microsoft> What's the difference?
[12:23] <bazhang> telxt, what does apt-cache search iptc say
[12:23] <bazhang> I_L_Microsoft, wrong channel for it
[12:23] <dli> freddy__, get a livecd, recreate the the raid1
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> I_L_Microsoft: this is support only, the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic will surely help
[12:23] <freddy__> dli: sry ... it is the other way around... if i start up with the bad disc.. grub starts up but cannot find anything to boot, if I startup with the good disc grub does not start ...
[12:23] <dli> freddy__, your /boot or /, which one on raid1?
[12:23] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: thats for the battery tab, that looks fine, is it the same for the ac power tab? do you use it off the mains too? (i use my laptop off the mains all the time)
[12:24] <freddy__> dli: dont remember ... how can I see that ?
[12:24] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: that's from the battery preferences
[12:25] <I_L_Microsoft> mannaggia alla madonna
[12:25] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/808/screenshot1qx.png/
[12:25] <telxt> bazhang, i know there are some editor for linux, but it must fit my needs, so iam looking for someone to give me some tips
[12:25] <work123456> hi
[12:25] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> o non si bestemmia
[12:26] <wh1zz0> So you see everything .. there's no suspend set anywhere
[12:26] <work123456> anyone know gambas the basic editor?
[12:26] <dli> freddy__, what do you have? livecd or grub cli?
[12:26] <work123456> or using it
[12:26] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> I_L_Microsoft swore against the vergin mary, i'm an atheist, but u cant do that, out out!
[12:26] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: yeah, that looks right, you don't close the lid do you?
[12:26] <wh1zz0> Not at all
[12:26] <oCean> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd: please drop it
[12:27] <freddy__> dli: I have a grub cli (connected from putty at the moment )
[12:27] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: i can't see why it would suspend unless you told it to on purpose (but you said it happens for no reason)
[12:27] <bazhang> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd, stop that
[12:27] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: But each time my machine becomes idle it just goes into suspend mode instead of the normal lock screen mode.. which really baffles me and annoys me to a point I really want to disable suspend totally.
[12:27] <dli> freddy__, what do you mean grub cli and putty?
[12:28] <redfox> hi. is is possible to have a password cache when im using ubuntu and winbind in a windows domain? i want to use the same useraccount no matter if im in a domain or not
[12:28] <Xaseron> is it possible to watch a blueray movie with the ubuntu livecd?
[12:28] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: drop what? i just dont like ppl insulting, even if im an atheist, and that's what he did, in italian when he wrote this "<I_L_Microsoft> mannaggia alla madonna"
[12:28] <freddy__> dli: I run a ssh connection to my server via putty (terminal program) and when logged into the server via that, I can start grub from cli.
[12:28] <coz_> Xaseron,  you got me on that one :)  I have no idea
[12:28] <Windows> redfox windows is my nick xD
[12:28] <bazhang> Xaseron, mplayer has had bluray for a while now
[12:29] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510:  Cuz anytime it goes into suspend I end up losing all data.
[12:29] <wols_> Xaseron: no it's not
[12:29] <coz_> Xaseron,  although , without the codecs installed I doubt it
[12:29] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: how is your battery power when it does suspend? (or are you using it from the mains?)
[12:29] <dli> freddy__, so, you can boot up, right?
[12:29] <redfox> Windows: your fault :-P
[12:29] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> oCean: he swore against the virgin mary
[12:29] <wols_> bazhang: and it can get to the video despite the DRM?
[12:29] <wh1zz0> Yes, from mains.. And my battery is fully charged
[12:29] <Windows> redfox I'm sorry i'm spanish
[12:29] <bazhang> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd, last warning
[12:29] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, i don't think mplayer with the non-free codecs is going to be available on the LiveCD is it?  Xaseron
[12:29] <coz_> LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd,  oo guy, not the place for that kind of posting
[12:29] <freddy__> dli: yes if I have the faulty drive and the nonfaulty drive into the machine, I can boot..
[12:30] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: hmm, then i'm stumped, sorry i can't help anymore
[12:30] <Olotila> dr_willis, this is wubi install
[12:30] <Olotila> seems to be the reason for problems
[12:30] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, wols not sure, though he could dl the libdvdcss2 package its small
[12:30] <Windows> What is the spanish channel?
[12:30] <ThinkT510> !es | Windows
[12:30] <bazhang> Windows, #ubuntu-es
[12:30] <wh1zz0> Usually once I unplug my batter cord from the power supply it goes into lock screen mode (which I don't also like, but I'm not complaining about this).. Now, when I unplug it goes into suspend
[12:30] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> bazhang: you're not getting me dude, i was asking some OP to kick him out for what he wrote
[12:30] <Olotila> Can I move this installation to somewhere else, so that this would be native os?
[12:30] <Olotila> without windows virtual disk mess?
[12:30] <dli> freddy__, cat /proc/mdstat
[12:30] <wols_> bazhang: no it could not. there currently is no linux bluray player. at all.
[12:31] <ionite> hi. anywhere here?
[12:31] <charas> While sharing a folder I get this error 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: share name sushi is already a valid system user name"
[12:31] <bazhang> ionite, hi
[12:31] <dli> freddy__, and cat /proc/mounts
[12:31] <freddy__> dli: md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] 234372160 blocks [2/1] [U_]
[12:31] <wols_> charas: that error is pretty self explanatory
[12:32] <freddy__> dli: I have disabled the sdb1
[12:32] <ionite> Hi.  I am running Windows XP Pro.  However I would like to switch to UBuntu 11.04.  Can I choose to format my C drive after Ubuntu installation is completed?
[12:32] <wols_> ionite: you can
[12:32] <charas> wols_: Using any other name gives this error "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. Memory allocation error."
[12:32] <dli> freddy__, can you attache a new disk without removing anything
[12:32] <ZykoticK9> ionite, are you installing from CD or from inside windows (Wubi)?
[12:33] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: thanks for trying to help... BUT is there a way I can save my work or resume my PC when it suspends?
[12:34] <wols_> wh1zz0: what laptop is it?
[12:34] <wh1zz0> if there is please share so that I don't keep losing my data and I can manage the issue
[12:34] <wh1zz0> Dell Vostro 1310
[12:34] <ionite> Zykotick9: I am installing from WUBI and it's now D/Ling from torrent for other files.
[12:35] <bazhang> Xaseron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[12:35] <freddy__> dli: I'm afraid I cannot, there are no more slots in the machine (dell) and dell wants the old faulty drive back..
[12:35] <bazhang> Xaseron, the issue is the "live cd"
[12:35] <ZykoticK9> ionite, if you installed using Wubi you CAN NOT delete windows, Ubuntu is actually inside windows.  wols_ it's important to find the Wubi cases ;)
[12:35] <wols_> wh1zz0: don't run any GUI (no X) and try to suspend and resume there
[12:35] <merda> merda
[12:36] <merda> l0rd frocio spione
[12:36] <freddy__> dli: its a dell  poweredge t100
[12:36] <wh1zz0> wols_: I don't understand
[12:36] <wh1zz0> You mean.. I should enter ttyl mode?
[12:36] <wols_> ZykoticK9: agreed. but can't I simply forget that wubi exists? much better to ignore all unpleasantries like this piece of garbage
[12:36] <wols_> wh1zz0: I mean you should shut down X (and gdm)
[12:36] <ionite> Zyk:  How do I install ubuntu in such a way that I will be able to format my C drive before installation?
[12:37] <ZykoticK9> ionite, from CD or USB
[12:37] <ionite> USB what's the min space required?
[12:37] <ThinkT510> wols_: with respect, that isn't how you are meant to enter and exit suspend mode
[12:37] <ionite> zyk: from CD meaning I am required to write a CD out?
[12:38] <wols_> ThinkT510: why not? you press fn+f3 and it better enters suspend. no matter if under X or console
[12:38] <ZykoticK9> ionite, yes, or write the CD to a USB drive (there is a USB Creator or Unetbootin)
[12:38] <wols_> sorry. fn+f4
[12:38] <ionite> zyk:  USB, can it be an external HDD?
[12:38] <wh1zz0> I'm not running ubuntu server edition.. I'm running 11.04 (natty)
[12:38] <wols_> wh1zz0: doesn't matter
[12:38] <wh1zz0> So how do I shut down x and gdm?
[12:38] <ZykoticK9> !tab > ionite
[12:38] <ThinkT510> wols_: you shouldn't have to shut down X to do that, it should work from the gui
[12:38] <ZykoticK9> ionite, you can install from or install to an external USB.
[12:39] <wols_> ThinkT510: ever heard of something called "bugs" in software?
[12:39] <wh1zz0> I thought you meant pressing ctrl alt f2
[12:39] <ionite> !tab > ionite
[12:39] <nothingspecial> wols_: Fn F4 does not sleep m laptop from console
[12:39] <wols_> ThinkT510: first law of troubleshooting: reproduce the problem with the most simple setup you can
[12:39] <nothingspecial> my
[12:39] <wols_> nothingspecial: but it does (if he's configured it right) for ThinkT510's
[12:39] <ZykoticK9> ionite, if you want to get a factoid you can type "/msg ubottu foo" to get it privately
[12:40] <nothingspecial> wols_: but it does running X/gnome
[12:41] <ionite> zyk:  should i continue to chat with the bot or u?
[12:41] <wols_> nothingspecial: you don't get the point. read what I wrote above again please
[12:41] <ThinkT510> wols_: true, that is a good principle, thanks
[12:41] <sktn07> how to install ubuntu 11.4 in my netbook?...i use hp n550 @1.50GHz
[12:42] <wols_> sktn07: use a usb stick
[12:42] <bazhang> !unetbootin | sktn07
[12:42] <wh1zz0> sktn07: Use USB stick
[12:42] <ymasory> hi all. a certain disk of mine keeps failing as i write to it, turning into a read-only file system. yet 'mount' says 'type ext4 (rw,commit=0)'. what's going wrong?
[12:43] <wh1zz0> Okay guys.. is there a way I can resume after it's suspended?
[12:43] <nothingspecial> wols_: "why not? you press fn+f3 and it better enters suspend. no matter if under X or console"
[12:43] <wols_> wh1zz0: magical bullets don't exist
[12:44] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[12:44] <wols_> nothingspecial: and?
[12:44] <ionite> how do i install from USB?
[12:44] <ZykoticK9> !usb
[12:44] <wh1zz0> Whew.. this is driving me nuts
[12:44] <bazhang> ionite, use unetbootin
[12:44] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: in my case it should just be a case of lifting the lid, or press the suspend buttons again
[12:44] <wh1zz0> Once I leave the PC for a few minutes it's going to happen again
[12:44] <nothingspecial> wols_: not from m console, but it does from X
[12:44] <ZykoticK9> ionite, i second bazhang's unetbootin suggestion
[12:44] <nothingspecial> my, dodgy y key
[12:44] <Olotila> My problems are because of wubi-install, I will reinstall witout it
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> ionite, You may wish to have a look at this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[12:45] <Olotila> Loopmounted Virtual Partition Manager might help, but seems unlikely
[12:45] <wols_> nothingspecial: do you own a thinkpad?
[12:45] <wh1zz0> Whew.. okie I just uplugged my battery cord and it didn't suspend.. :DDDDD
[12:45] <wh1zz0> :D
[12:45] <wh1zz0> Whew
[12:45] <wh1zz0> I hope it doesnt happen again.. okie thanks guys. back2work
[12:46] <sktn07> ubottu: but which version to download which will sportable for my netbook (hp N550 @1.50GHz)?
[12:46] <wh1zz0> lol
[12:46] <wh1zz0> Yeah right.. you are intelligent
[12:46] <wh1zz0> Nice script.
[12:46] <wols_> sktn07: the normal ISO of ubuntu is fine for you
[12:47] <nothingspecial> wols_: yep, just tried Fn F4 now from console, nothing. Anyway, weather it does or not, doesn't help much and I'm not in the mood to argue
[12:47] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: if you want to you could change the power setting to not suspend on low battery (which is why i asked earlier what your battery was like when it suspends)
[12:48] <wh1zz0> sktn07: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ... Just follow this.
[12:48] <coz_> wh1zz0,  is the screensaver activated?
[12:48] <wh1zz0> sktn07: And when it says chose installation method, select USB stick and click show me.
[12:48] <ionite> how do i use Unetbootin ?
[12:49] <Titanoboa> wols_: i've tried many things since yesterday & i'm installing ubuntu 11.04 still won't work, though now I can use firefox from the LiveCD just fine. I've tried installing and re-installing countless times and there's a new (random it seems) error every time.
[12:49] <coz_> ionite,  it is pretty self expanatory,, is it opened?
[12:49] <wh1zz0> coz_: Nah, I didn't enable screensaver, is it enabled by default?
[12:49] <sktn07> which link should i go for  ubuntu 11.4 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download  ?
[12:50] <wh1zz0> sktn07: Go for the recommended
[12:50] <ZykoticK9> wh1zz0, not only is screensaver on by default, it's set to lock by default...  annoys me ;)
[12:50] <coz_> sktn07,  you can also use this   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:51] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: Ouch
[12:51] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Did you Md5sum the ISO, and then burn at the slowest speed?
[12:51] <dassouki> is tehre a good recent read on flight sim games
[12:51] <wols_> nothingspecial: I just tried on mine. works fine in console (debian tho, but whatever debian can do, so can ubuntu).
[12:51] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: Is there no way to disable this?
[12:51] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: that's greek to me :< I followed the instructions on the ubuntu page as well as i could and used infrarecorder or what it's called
[12:51] <ZykoticK9> wh1zz0, in screensaver settings
[12:51] <sktn07> i want to download the torrent...which one is best?
[12:52] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: should i try to re-do it and lower the speed (and how do i do that?)
[12:52] <Lasers> !torrent | sktn07
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> !md5sum | Titanoboa
[12:52] <bazhang> !torrents | sktn07
[12:52] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: Okie checking it out now
[12:52] <Titanoboa> okay Sidewinder1 i'll report back when i've tried it
[12:52] <Titanoboa> thanks
[12:53] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: HAHAHAH.. thank you so much... I see everything now
[12:53] <hunt> Hi, I've got a Radeon X 1600 graphics card and compiz doesnt work, documentation says that 3D is supported with this card I'm on 11.04, can someone help?
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, I would md5sun the ISO, then perhaps, reburn at the slowest speed and reinstall. If you stlii get the same errors, then try Lucid Lynx 10.04.
[12:54] <wols_> hunt: pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[12:54] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: Now I increased the time.. and disabled screensaver.
[12:54] <Titanoboa> waitwait, no way i'll remember that. save it for when i come back after trying the md5sum thing
[12:54] <wh1zz0> ZykoticK9: Thanks. :)
[12:54] <Titanoboa> :P
[12:54] <ZykoticK9> wh1zz0, glad to help
[12:55] <wh1zz0> :)
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Infrarecorder should have a parameter for you to set the burn speed.
[12:55] <hunt> wols_: just a second I'm actually on another machine right now, brb
[12:56] <gwelymernan>  hi um anyone here know of a server or a channel where doctors hang out?
[12:56] <hiatus> not really ubuntu related, but can anyone assist me with my router?
[12:56] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, I'll be back in 10 min.
[12:56] <Titanoboa> kk
[12:56] <wols_> hiatus: #netwokring
[12:56] <wols_> hiatus: #networking
[12:57] <wh1zz0> Anyone got a free link to WinXP iso file?
[12:57] <wols_> wh1zz0: don't do that
[12:58] <wh1zz0> For VM
[12:58] <wols_> doesn't matter for what. STOP!
[12:58] <hiatus> thanks
[12:58] <wh1zz0> wols_: Do what ?
[12:58] <wh1zz0> Oh sorry
[12:58] <jiltdil> is there no GUI of  chkrootkit
[12:58] <wols_> wh1zz0: ask for people to commit copyright infringement for you. now go away
[12:58] <wols_> jiltdil: no there isn't. it's a commandline program
[12:59] <hunt> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650594/
[12:59] <wh1zz0> wols_: Don't take it the wrong way
[12:59] <oCean> wh1zz0: drop that discussion now
[12:59] <jiltdil> how to scan using it please tell the command
[12:59] <wh1zz0> kk
[12:59] <wols_> jiltdil: man chkrootkit
[13:00] <wols_> hunt: all looks fine to me. why do you think you have no 3D support?
[13:00] <wdp_buntu> DisplayPriority not working with ati kms?
[13:00] <wols_> hunt: did you make a xorg.conf btw?
[13:00] <hunt> wols_: No, I did not.
[13:01] <wols_> hunt: then line 108 http://paste.ubuntu.com/650594/
[13:02] <wols_> hunt: then line 108 [    15.142] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0)  is a bit strange. but it loads radeon as it should after that just fine and all the config seems to be right too. so what is your actual problem?
[13:03] <hunt> Well my problem is that I can not start compiz, everytme I do compiz --replace just the wallpaper is visible and everything else disappears
[13:03] <cairne> where can i find the folder for the jre and jdk in ubunutu 11.04?
[13:03] <hunt> wols_: but I read that this card should have 3D support, so I would like to have that
[13:03] <wols_> glxinfo |grep direct
[13:03] <wols_> hunt: ^^ run that
[13:04] <Titanoboa> lol, i don't even know how to open terminal. is that ubuntu symbol in the top left (11.04 UI) what i click to open terminal?
[13:04] <hunt> wols_: it says direct rendering: yes
[13:04] <wols_> hunt: congrats you have 3D support
[13:05] <hunt> wols_: yay
[13:05] <wols_> hunt: you do know that compiz is awfully old and not really needed or used anymore? e.g Ubuntu Unity cannot even work without 3D support
[13:06] <hunt> wols_: but unity does use compiz, doesnt it?
[13:06] <wols_> so is there any special reason why you want compiz?
[13:06] <ZykoticK9> hunt, yes, unity uses compiz
[13:06] <Titanoboa> nvm found it >_>
[13:06] <wols_> no it doesn't. it uses composite, the underlying X module compiz and many other modern WMs depend on
[13:07] <Warrior`> i have a file with several comma seperated words...how to replace commans with newlines?
[13:07] <ZykoticK9> wols_, i'm pretty sure Unity does infact use Compiz.  I could be wrong...
[13:07] <hunt> wols_: I want to use classic mode with desktop effects, I do need compiz for that don't I?
[13:07] <wols_> ZykoticK9: compiz is a window manager, right?
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Please look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php  It'll give you many "How-to s" for just about anything you'd like to do in Ubuntu.
[13:08] <ZykoticK9> wols_, Unity does use Compiz.  They re-wrote the origional, using mutter to use compiz.
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> hunt: any effects needs compiz
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> hunt: just disable the unity plugin
[13:10] <hunt> ActionParsnip what makes you believe it would run then?
[13:10] <oCean> Warrior`: try cat yourfile.txt | sed 's/,/\n/g'
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> hunt: what would run?
[13:10] <hunt> ActionParsnip: compiz
[13:11] <philwire> I'm having trouble with minidlna, it stops responding after a few minutes, however the process still runs. I have to kill it to make it appear again.
[13:11] <hunt> ActionParsnip: I believe this is a driver issue, its not like I could start compiz with unity, compiz just doesnt work (correctly)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> hunt: you can add a startup item to make it run
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, I answered your question, above, in PM.
[13:12] <hunt> ActionParsnip: radeon.modeset=1?
[13:14] <hunt> ActionParsnip: what startup item do you mean?
[13:14] <wols_> hunt: is there any special reason you want to run compiz?
[13:15] <hunt> wols_: yes, I want to have effects like transparency etc
[13:15] <wols_> *sigh* you already do. ever stared very very hard at unity?
[13:16] <hunt> wols_: what? I do not run unity
[13:16] <philwire> 3
[13:16] <hunt> wols_: I'm in ubuntu classic without effects right now
[13:17] <wols_> hunt: and can you run unity?
[13:17] <AlexDevilLX> Any Default Volume up/down hotkey?
[13:17] <coz_> hunt,  and you want effects...yes?
[13:17] <mediawork> hi...
[13:17] <dr_willis> !info minidlna
[13:17] <mediawork> im wondering where my /var/log/messages   file is?
[13:17] <coz_> hunt,    open a terminal ,,,    compiz --replace & disown
[13:17] <wols_> mediawork: it better be in /var/log
[13:18] <hunt> wols_: no I can not, unity as well as just ubuntu classic leaves me with a blank wallpaper with my cursor on ti
[13:18] <krux> lol
[13:18] <hunt> wols_: so thats why i think this is a driver issue
[13:18] <mediawork> wols_:  nope nothing...
[13:19] <wols_> hunt: I mean just running unity. not trying to use compiz inside it. cause if you can run unity, you have 3D support and there is no issue. as the glxinfo output can very much attest to. but sinec you know better I wish you luck in rewriting your driver. good day
[13:19] <mediawork> wols_: http://pastebin.com/bukxLaMk
[13:19] <coz_> wols_,   Unity relies soley on compiz
[13:19] <mediawork> wols_:  my version is 11.04
[13:20] <mediawork> wols_:  and just installed... really fresh... an no messages file ?
[13:20] <Titanoboa> ty Sidewinder1. Now I finally got mom off the windows machine, going to try to MD5Sum
[13:20] <coz_> wols_,  you cannont have Unity without compiz unless you install Unity2d
[13:21] <wols_> coz_: what do you think "unity" is? considering Unity doesn't use compiz as its window manager, something in your statement seems wrong to me
[13:21] <coz_> wols_,   Unity does use compiz as the window manager
[13:21] <wols_> above ZykoticK9 said it uses mutter
[13:21] <coz_> wols_,  you cannot have Unity and not have compiz
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Did you check out the psychocats web-site?
[13:22] <Lasers> Unity is written as a plugin for Compiz. Unity2D is for metacity.
[13:22] <Abhijit> Sidewinder1, i came late. just wanted to know for which issue you are referring psycocat website?
[13:23] <wols_> hmm. what is the minimum diskspace for 11.04?
[13:23] <Abhijit> wols_, 4gb approximately
[13:23] <hunt> wols_: does the glxinfo output mean that my driver has 3D support or my gpu?
[13:23] <wols_> hunt: it does
[13:23] <Lasers> wols_: 5GB according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[13:24] <coz_> hunt,   which video card do you have,,, in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[13:24] <hunt> coz_: its a radeon X 1600
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> Abhijit, Just about anything a relatively new ubuntu user wants to know. :-)
[13:24] <wols_> Lasers: I doubt this statement. unless ubuntu grew more than 1GB in a year
[13:24] <coz_> hunt,  this may be a bit old      Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). For 7000 to HDxxxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD* cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[13:24] <Lasers> wols_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#System_requirements
[13:25] <Abhijit> Sidewinder1, do not refer that how to remove k/u/xubuntu article on that website. it breaks it
[13:25] <coz_> hunt,  so according to t hat i would assume it should work
[13:25] <wols_> coz_: a radeon 1600 is anything but old
[13:25] <coz_> wols_,  no I meant the readout may be old
[13:25] <wols_> at least for compiz and such
[13:25] <coz_> not the card
[13:25] <hunt> coz_: how do I know which driver is currently in use?
[13:25] <wols_> hunt: radeon is in use, as seen in your Xorg.0.log
[13:25] <coz_> hunt,    for ati I am not sure,, I have absolutely no experience with ati
[13:26] <Titan_windows> Sidewinder1: i still haven't MB5Sum'd
[13:26] <coz_> hunt,   but the driver should already be installed,,,  you are in classic,,yes?
[13:26] <Titan_windows> just finally got a hold of the windows machine
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> Abhijit, With all due respect, did you even look at: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[13:26] <hunt> coz_: yes, classic without effects
[13:26] <coz_> hunt,  ok open a terminal
[13:26]  * mediawork going to linux kernel to solve an ubuntu problem
[13:26] <coz_> hunt,     compiz --replace & disown
[13:27] <coz_> hunt,   that will allow compiz to start  as well as pushing into the background for you to close the terminal, h owever,, leave the terminal opened for error readouts  just in case
[13:27] <Abhijit> Sidewinder1, i am talking about the how to remove the kde/gnome/xfce articel on that website. this is warning. i have tried it. it breaks. its upto you if you sill want to use(=break)  it
[13:27] <Titan_windows> Sidewinder1: at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20Windows it says to get Cygwin. Is that really necessary?
[13:27] <Titan_windows> seems time demanding
[13:28] <Sidewinder1> Abhijit, What he was asking had nothing to do with removing anything; unless I missed something, which has been known to happen, occasionally.
[13:28] <CaptainQuirk> Hi
[13:28] <wols_> Titan_windows: no. there are many md5sum programs for windows. any will do
[13:28] <coz_> hey
[13:28] <Titan_windows> wols_: so clicking on "Download and install winMD5Sum" will do?
[13:28] <CaptainQuirk> My PC under ubuntu froze twice in a row in the last 30 minutes
[13:28] <CaptainQuirk> I had to reboot
[13:29] <CaptainQuirk> the first time, I got a set of nasty error message when booting
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> Abhijit, You may wish to advise the site owner of that. I'm sure he'll amend or warn, if he knows.
[13:29] <CaptainQuirk> the second time, It did'nt reboot
[13:29] <hunt_> coz_: yeah so basically the same thing, just the wallpaper and cursor
[13:29] <CaptainQuirk> the third time, I could select the OS in grub but it kept on rebooting each time
[13:30] <CaptainQuirk> I try to fix the MBR with supergrub disk
[13:30] <hunt_> coz_: although the cursor changes depending on where its at, so the windows seem to be still there but invisible
[13:30] <coz_> hunt,   ok  hit alt+F2  type in gnome-penel
[13:30] <coz_> sorry
[13:30] <coz_> hunt,   gnome-panel
[13:30] <CaptainQuirk> it seemed that the program hanged on the reading of the grub files
[13:30] <hunt_> coz_: gnome-panel is loaded, I restarted via REISUB
[13:30] <Abhijit> Sidewinder1, okies
[13:30] <coz_> hunt_,  ok so you have access to applications etc?
[13:30] <CaptainQuirk> I tried to launch a live session with a cd but it wouldn't start correctly
[13:30] <hunt_> coz_: yes
[13:30] <coz_> hunt_,   ok  did you install compizconfig-settings-manager ?
[13:31] <hunt_> coz_: back to classic mode again
[13:31] <CaptainQuirk> I get crc error : system halted
[13:31] <hunt_> coz_: well I can...
[13:31] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  crc error = bad cd/optcal disk/media. or could be a ram issue
[13:31] <coz_> hunt_,  install it
[13:31] <hunt_> coz_: ok, done
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> CaptainQuirk, Fix MBR is usually done with the win. emergency repair disk, I think; it's been a while.
[13:31] <coz_> hunt_, ok now open that either  from the  system/preferences menu or in terminal or alt+F2     ccsm
[13:32] <CaptainQuirk> I don't have a dual boot, I don't need any win thing, I think. Super grub disk should do the job
[13:32] <coz_> hunt_,  you will probably notice that not much is enalbed at this point
[13:32] <hunt_> coz_: right.
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> CaptainQuirk, I'm not reading fast enough; sorry... :-(
[13:32] <dr_willis> CaptainQuirk:  a normal ubuntu live should do the job of reinstalling grub also. if you use the right commandline commands.
[13:33] <coz_> hunt_,   what you need to do is take a look at the list of cateories  on the left,,  you want to start with the window management category,, if you want ,, move to the #compiz channel and I can walk you th rough a solid basic compiz setup
[13:33] <CaptainQuirk> dr_willis, yeah ok, but how can I access the command line from the live CD
[13:33] <Titan_windows> wols_: woah, how do i know which one is the corresponding hash? :/
[13:33] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: Just open a terminal, command line right there.
[13:33] <bazhang> !hashes | Titan_windows
[13:34] <Titan_windows> yeah i have that open
[13:34] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, a terminal from where ? I cannot launch the live session
[13:34] <Titan_windows> am i supposed to know which one i have :/ i just downloaded the "main one" so to speak.
[13:34] <Edler> hey guys general question
[13:34] <wols_> Titan_windows: you know which ISO you downlaoded so you can easily compare
[13:34] <Edler> in shared webhosting environnements
[13:34] <Edler> how can a php script (control panel), create webhosting accoutns
[13:34] <Edler> doesn't apache need root permissions for that
[13:34] <Edler> ?
[13:35] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: Probably a bad disk, should shift during booting from the disk and select "verify integrity" (or something similar to that) from the menu it gives you. If you can't even get to that then you should probably redownload the image and reburn it.
[13:35] <Titan_windows> *facepalm* thx wols_
[13:35] <oCean> Edler: there are various ways, but it has nothing to do with #ubuntu. You may try #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:35] <SilverZ> I'm absolutely new to linux and ubuntu and I could use some help
[13:35] <Edler> okay thanks
[13:36] <Titan_windows> wols_: ok so now that i know that the ISO isn't corrupt, should i also check my CD? can it be done the same way?
[13:36] <Polah> SilverZ: Ask away, we'll help as we can
[13:36] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, look at what I said, I have a "crc error" when I try to launch the live session and I experienced problems before that
[13:36] <Titan_windows> wols_: I bring the cd to the windows computer, click send to winmd5sum and compare with the hash?
[13:36] <CaptainQuirk> It has nothing to do with my CD, I'm quite sure of that
[13:36] <alex--> aetas: pm
[13:36] <SilverZ> polah: thank you, I just updated a macbook to ubuuntu 10.4 lts, all was working fine until it did the auto updated and after restart it stated "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root FS on unknown-block
[13:37] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: I didn't say launch the live session, I said to verify the disk integrity. Titan_Windows: You'll want to do this too to verify disk integrity. Hold shift while attempting to boot from it and select "verify disk integrity" or a line similar to that from the menu that drops down.
[13:37] <Darkfd> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffreak.no%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D193058%26page%3D101&act=url
[13:37] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: If you can't even get to the menu, I suggest getting another disk or USB.
[13:37] <Titan_windows> Polah: Liluo alright
[13:37] <Titan_windows> eh
[13:37] <bazhang> Darkfd, ?
[13:37] <Titan_windows> Polah: alright.
[13:37] <Titan_windows> brb then
[13:38] <Darkfd> bazhang, pong
[13:38] <Sidewinder1> SilverZ, You updated to 10.04 from which version?
[13:38] <CaptainQuirk> I have the menu allright, but since I had some strange behavior of the OS, I don't think the cd 's faulty
[13:38] <bazhang> Darkfd, what does that have to do with ubuntu support
[13:38] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: If you can get to the menu then verify integrity to check if it is the disk or not.
[13:38] <SilverZ> max os x ...something i forget which version it was, it was an old laptop sitting in my closet that had died and i tried to revive it with ubuntu
[13:38] <Titanoboa> if i'm running from the LiveCD, linux should crash when i take out the CD right?
[13:39] <Polah> Titanoboa: Not instantly, but it'll fail when you try to do something.
[13:39] <Darkfd> Sorry.  Pasten into wrong channel. Nevermind.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> Titanoboa: i believe it will just ask for the cd
[13:39] <Darkfd> *pested
[13:39] <Titanoboa> ok, might aswell close this for now then
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> SilverZ, So, you didn't upgrade? You did a fresh install?
[13:39] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, I get the following error message : invalid compressed format / system halted
[13:39] <Polah> SilverZ: I can't help you with that personally, perhaps someone else can; hang around for a while and wait.
[13:39] <SilverZ> yes i did a fresh install
[13:40] <SilverZ> ok thanks
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> SilverZ, And after the fresh install you got a kernel panic?
[13:41] <duelle> Hi there, my shortcuts for copy & paste seem to be "corrupted". If I copy "Test", the pasted String ist "`jm". In terminal I can still copy correctly via middle mouse.
[13:41] <SilverZ> no the initial install went fine
[13:41] <SilverZ> then after it did the auto update and restarted i got the kernel panic
[13:41] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: You said you can get into the system but it doesn't function properly. Have you tried accessing another TTY (Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6) rather than the default graphical one?
[13:41] <SilverZ> now when I start the computer it just brings up the kernel panic message
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> duelle: i advise you install parcellite, it solves everything :)
[13:41] <motz> the mouse arrow just stopped. what should I do?
[13:42] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Does it fix the shortcuts etc or ist it "just" a gui for clipboard?
[13:42] <ray9na> Hi. I've got Lucid on a netbook. How do I set up Evolution so I can just use the calendar? It wants me to give it an email address.
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> SilverZ, Try booting to LiveCD and have a look at the hard drive... See if anything "jumps-out" at you.
[13:42] <Lasers> !info parcellite | duelle
[13:42] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, I never said I could get to the system
[13:43] <SilverZ> hmmm, i don't even know what i would be looking for
[13:43] <CaptainQuirk> I can see the live CD menu, but that's all
[13:43] <Lasers> duelle: It keep a list of all clipboard records so you can preserve many clipboards.
[13:43] <Titan_windows> Polah: i can't find anything like that at all. I'm probably not doing it as you described
[13:43] <SilverZ> i'm brand new to linux, I don't know what a "kernel panic" implies
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> SilverZ, Neither do I; it may be a hardware issue since you said the machine was old.
[13:44] <slim_gaza> Hi guys I need your recommendation here. I am a student and I have 6 months to dedicate on a single technology. Which would you recommend I do, should I focus on improving my use with django or contributing to pypy? thanks guys
[13:44] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Ok, just installed it. But the String displayed by parcellite seems still to be corrupted.
[13:44] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: You said it was acting strangely. I assumed that meant you could reach it but it was malfunctioning. The problem seems to be a malfunctioning disk. Checksum your ISO and redownload it if necessary and reburn the disk or create a LiveUSB
[13:44] <oCean> slim_gaza: you can try #ubuntu-offtopic, this is ubuntu support channel
[13:44] <hume> hi... I have a server and a client, both running ubuntu 11.04, but with different times set. Both run ntpd. What might be wrong? (how can ntpd give different times...?)
[13:45] <slim_gaza> oCean, okay thanks
something issue related with ur grub i think
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> duelle: parcellite is a great paste manager, Linux needs the source app you are pasting from to be open to paste from it. Parcelite solves this well
[13:45] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, No, I said it was acting strangely before I was shut out of it
[13:45] <Polah> Titan_windows: When you put the disk in, hold shift during boot and it should give you a menu. One of the options (near the bottom, I think) is "verify disk integrity" or "check disc data" or something along those lines, I can't recall exactly.
[13:45] <SilverZ> yeah I'm thinking it might be a RAM issue, I knew this laptop has had RAM issues in the past
[13:45] <knoxy> Hi all.. I've 2 internet links (eth1 - 201.63.x.x and eth2 - 189.111.x.x) ... How can I do to make a balance-rr? I'm reading one article, but I dont understand the configuration of bond0 in interfaces file.. What IP I need to input to bond0? the ip of eth1 or eth2? font: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[13:45] <Abhijit> how to know which ports are open ? how to open the closed ones? i have lamp installed
[13:45] <ThinkT510> hume: they are not in different time zones are they?
[13:45] <hume> both set to Stockholm, Sweden. difference is 5-10 minutes
[13:45] <Titan_windows> Polah: I tried that (if you mean inserting the disc on the windows machine), and no menu came up at all
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> jiltdil, I have no idea as I have never had the pleasure of "kernel-panic", thank the deities/
[13:46] <Polah> Titan_windows: You need to shut down and boot into the disc, not just put it in while running Windows.
[13:46] <Titan_windows> Oh :/
[13:46] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Sorry didnt get your point i think. If I copy "daemon" the resulting string displayed by parcellite is something like ´jm and a following special char
[13:46] <Titan_windows> should I rather do it on the other machine then?
[13:46] <hume> ThinkT510, both set to Stockholm, Sweden. difference is 5-10 minutes
[13:46] <Titan_windows> the one i'm trying to isntall linux one
[13:46] <Titan_windows> on'
[13:46] <Abhijit> Titan_windows, if you want to test then you use vitual machine
[13:47] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, the supergrub disk I'm using to try to fix the mbr doesn't work either.
[13:47] <duelle> So in which way can parcellite help to solve that problem
[13:47] <Polah> Titan_windows: Put it in whichever machine you're aiming to install or run Ubuntu on.
[13:47] <Titan_windows> okay
[13:47] <ThinkT510> hume: odd, sorry i can't think of what might be wrong
[13:47] <oCean> Abhijit: sudo netstat -tulpa will show your listening processes at various ports
[13:47] <SilverZ> thank you all for the help, take care
[13:47] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: I can't help you with that, perhaps try asking in #grub and telling them what error that's giving you.
[13:47] <ionite> i got an error when booting from my USB from bios.  It reads: Com 32R Image error 8001
[13:47] <Abhijit> oCean, ok
[13:47] <Titan_windows> Polah: so practically: start comp, press F8, select the CD, press enter and start holding shift?
[13:48] <Titan_windows> until a menu pops up
[13:48] <Polah> Titan_windows, yes that should do it. Although, by default the machine will boot from the CD if there is a bootable disk present, at least it should do.
[13:48] <jiltdil> Abhijit: netstat -nlptun for locally
[13:48] <hume> ThinkT510, got any idea on workaround? can I manually set a time-shift on the client? that sticks between reboots
[13:48] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, I think I could use any CD I want, it wouldn't work because I fear that my problem is hardware related
[13:48] <ThinkT510> hume: the only other thing i can think of is if they are set to different ntpd servers
[13:49] <Abhijit> jiltdil, thanks
[13:49] <CaptainQuirk> I'm just trying to narrow things down
[13:49] <ThinkT510> hume: sorry, i have no experience with that
[13:49] <ionite> can anyone help me with my Error 8001. COM 32R Image error?
[13:49] <Polah> CaptainQuirk: If you're getting the same error then perhaps.
[13:49] <ray9na> Hey, everyone. I'm trying to set up Evolution just so I can use the calendar function. I don't want it pulling in email. What's a good work-around for that? I'm using Lucid if that's relevant.
[13:49] <uboontu> Hello!
[13:49] <jiltdil> Abhijit:anytime :)
[13:49] <Polah> ionite: If you were to give us some context of what's giving you that error.
[13:49] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, not the same error per se, but an impossibility to access the hard drive
[13:50] <uboontu> If I don't check to format existing partition(in which I want to install Ubuntu), will my data on that partition be saved?
[13:50] <ionite> i'm booting from USB SD drive and the installation wont proceed.
[13:50] <CaptainQuirk> Can I force a root terminal session to make a fsck ?
[13:50] <jiltdil> ionite: from bios menu select boot from usb
[13:50] <Polah> uboontu: Ubuntu will overwrite things it needs to etc. I'd back up the data you need to keep to be sure.
[13:50] <ThinkT510> uboontu: you thinking of using an existing /home partition with a new install?
[13:51] <uboontu> Polah, so it should not delete everything? I already did backup
[13:51] <uboontu> ThinkT510, I already have Ubuntu on existing partition, and I want to do fresh install on it
[13:51] <uboontu> ThinkT510, and I wanna know if my data in /home will be saved
[13:51] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, Can I force a root terminal session to make a fsck ?
[13:52] <uboontu> CaptainQuirk, yes
[13:52] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Lasers : Is there any possibility to reset the shortcut settings to default? Or to control whether they are correct? Couldnt find copy/paste anywhere in keybind-settings
[13:52] <CaptainQuirk> uboontu, when and how ?
[13:52] <ThinkT510> uboontu: if it is a seperate partition you could choose to save it and not format it, but if it is part of your / partition its a little more tricky
[13:52] <uboontu> CaptainQuirk: I just answered your question
[13:53] <uboontu> ThinkT510, I did not get anything so I will just format it :-D
[13:53] <CaptainQuirk> uboontu, I just got "yes"
[13:53] <SoGooD> how can i make a small sized live ubuntu ISO? the one with only a web browser, a file manager, a network manager a media player and all essential system files :D
[13:53] <Polah_> ionite: Does it boot into the Live session at all?
[13:53] <stercor> What's a recommended firewall for Ubuntu?
[13:53] <Polah_> !minimal | SoGooD
[13:53] <ThinkT510> uboontu: i suppose you could back it up and then overwrite the /home partition from the fresh install with the backup (just be careful of usernames and installed applications)
[13:53] <oCean> !ufw | stercor
[13:53] <dr_willis> SoGooD:  theres prob. some ubuntu-varants that allready do that.
[13:54] <wh1zz0> It just happened again
[13:54] <dr_willis> 'it
[13:54] <SoGooD>  i need to do that because i got my SSD dead, and all i have now is a 2gb usb stick for my netbook
[13:54] <CaptainQuirk> uboontu, I would like to know if there's a way from the grub menu to launch a root session
[13:54] <Polah_> stercor: Ubuntu comes with one built in, you can use ufw to configure iptables to define access.
[13:54] <wh1zz0> I noticed that it happens when I unplug my battery from power supply
[13:55] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: is this the 3rd time now?
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> stercor, Regarding security, you may wish to peruse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[13:55] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Yeah
[13:55] <uboontu> CaptainQuirk, oh sorry. I dont know
[13:55] <wh1zz0> And I lost every thing again
[13:55] <dr_willis> SoGooD:  you can set up a live/peristant save on a 2gb. but that will be tight. You can get a very useable tinycorelinux setup in 2gb
[13:55] <alex--> Are there any tutorials to secure a server?
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[13:55] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: when you showed me your settings last time it was set to suspend on low battery
[13:55] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: yes. kernel parameter: init=/bin/bash
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[13:55] <wh1zz0> Not at all
[13:55] <wh1zz0> It wasn't
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, I sent you a PN, did you get it?
[13:55] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: it was
[13:55] <wh1zz0> In fact.. it was set to hibernate
[13:55] <SoGooD> will that load up my wifi ccconnection?
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> PM, even.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> duelle: its a dedicated app for copy / pasting so should handle it better, it also has history so you can paste past things (multiple clipboards)
[13:56] <wh1zz0> Sidewinder1: Not at all
[13:56] <SoGooD> dr_willis, will that load up my wifi ccconnection?
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> wh1zz0, Should I try again?
[13:56] <wh1zz0> Sidewinder1: A PM you meant?
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> Yes
[13:56] <wh1zz0> Yes try again
[13:56] <alex--> Are there any tutorials to secure a server?
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> Stand by.
[13:56] <CaptainQuirk> wols, you mean I have to edit the command ( pressing 'e' ) in the grub menu ?
[13:56] <wendell> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 11.04... first off it wouldn't boot so i had to do nomodeset and second when i logged in it said i couldnt run unity but i have run it before
[13:57] <wendell> please help
[13:57] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: It was?
[13:57] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: yes
[13:57] <Titan_windows> Polah_: nope, no such menu appeared. I held shift from the moment i booted the CD until the "Try Ubuntu"/"Install Ubuntu" screen appeared
[13:57] <dr_willis> SoGooD:  with the  wifi drivers.. should.
[13:57] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: sorry, hibernate, but to me thats the same thing
[13:57] <Guest90727> i am here
[13:57] <wh1zz0> Nopes.. there different
[13:57] <Polah_> alex--, that would depend on what type of server you want to secure.
[13:57] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Ok, but even parcellite shows those strange strings. So it doesnt really solve the problem. Is there any possibility to reset keybinds/copy/paste back to default settings or to review those settings?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> wendell: are you fully updated
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> duelle: very weird
[13:57] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Left shift? I recall someone having trouble before by holding right shift
[13:57] <wh1zz0> hibernate just shuts it down and resumes from where ever it was
[13:57] <alex--> Polah_: i mean a list that says: change ssh port to 5453454
[13:57] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: regardless, hibernate powers off your machine
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> duelle: not sure where the setting is stored tbh
[13:58] <alex--> that kind of things
[13:58] <Polah_> alex--, here might be a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[13:58] <wendell> ActionParsnip: I haven't run Update Manager yet i literally just installed and am installing additional drivers
[13:58] <Titan_windows> Polah_: i can try again with left shift... or i could just go straight ahead to burning a new CD at a lower speed and try that
[13:58] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510:  BUt this suspend just puts my machine to a standstill while the two lights keep blinking.. and there's no way to resume
[13:58] <wh1zz0> .. unless I power off
[13:58] <alex--> Polah_: thx
[13:58] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Try left shift.
[13:58] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: you can tell i don't use suspend or hibernate
[13:58] <Titan_windows> it takes so much time tho :/
[13:58] <Titan_windows> fine. brb
[13:58] <wh1zz0> This thing it really killing me
[13:59] <SoGooD> here's my idea, i will make a live usb, uninstall all unwanted packages, make a clone of the live usb after removing those packages. will that work?
[13:59] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: How did you do that?
[13:59] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: do what?
[13:59] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Or you don't use X at all?
[13:59] <dr_willis> SoGooD:   you mean do a normal install to usb...
[13:59] <wendell> ActionParsnip: should update fix most if not all of the issues?
[13:59] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: How did you disable hibernate and suspend?
[13:59] <wendell> ActionParsnip: updating*
[13:59] <Polah_> alex--: I don't see anything about changing the SSH port in the SSH section there, but to change it edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the first line from "port 22" to "port <port you want to use>", save it and then restart the ssh service
[14:00] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: look at your power settings, you have it set to hibernate on low battery
[14:00] <alex--> Polah_: make it harder for attackers to see which port i'm using
[14:00] <SoGooD> yes, i will install just into a usb stick, that's why i need to trim off its size
[14:00] <duelle> ActionParsnip: Now im a bit confused. It works correctly now. But im not sure how long this will last. do you know the terminal command for copying text to clipboard and paste from clipboard?
[14:00] <Polah_> alex--: They can't see which port you're using. You might get connection attempts on port 22, which is why you should change it to something else so it'll just refuse SSH connections.
[14:01] <CaptainQuirk> wols_, I try to do it, but the computer reboots automatically
[14:01] <alex--> that's what i mean
[14:01] <alex--> i should change it from 22 to sth else
[14:01] <wh1zz0> So what should it be instead of hibernate..?
[14:01] <alex--> but isn't there a guide like that?
[14:01] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Cus I see only 3 options there.. shutdown, hibernate and suspend
[14:01] <Polah_> SoGooD: Don't get the normal ISO and then trim it down, get the minimal ISO and then build upon that to get what you want. Of course, depends on how much you plan to be adding/removing. If you're only going to remove a small amount then perhaps the normal ISO and then trimming would be more efficient.
[14:01] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: look at the options in the drop down list
[14:01] <Ferius> hi folks. have any one of you tried to run ubuntu 11.04 on machine with intel i7-2630qm with sandy bridge technology and Nvidia gt540m?
[14:02] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: yEA.. Just looked at it again.. I have just those 3 options
[14:02] <CaptainQuirk> I think I'm screwed ...
[14:02] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: you don't have a nothing option?
[14:02] <Polah_> alex--: I just told you how to do it. Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and change the first line (non comment) from port 22 to port 2350, for example. Or any port number you want really (within the range of ports, that is). Then save it and restart SSH
[14:02] <SoGooD> Polah_ : here's my problem, i got two laptops, the other is dead the other is what i'm using now.
[14:03] <alex--> Polah_: i mean a list which says: change port 22 to sth else, change port 21 to this and that, not only for ssh, but for all
[14:03] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: At all
[14:03] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: my options are nothing, suspend, shutdown and ask
[14:03] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: could be a bad disk or only bad files (like the kernel). can't say from here
[14:03] <terry> Polah_: alex-- AND, after you switch to a non-standard port, you could go a step further and set an iptables rule to block all port 22 traffic from outside.
[14:03] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Jesus.. Lol.. for real?
[14:03] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: yup, using xubuntu
[14:04] <SoGooD> if i will use minimal iso and build it through the net, it can't be because my internet is only for a single machine
[14:04] <Titan_windows> Polah_: same again. when exactly is the menu supposed to pop up? D:
[14:04] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: i prefer xfce
[14:04] <Polah_> terry: alex--: Outside the IP ranges you want, else you wouldn't be able to connect to the SSH server anywhere.
[14:04] <alex--> terry: is there any way to let the attacker think i dont exist?
[14:04] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Pops up on your screen instead of loading the live session.
[14:04] <alex--> i mean: that the server doesn't says: hey i'm alive
[14:04] <terry> alex--: you can also block port 113
[14:04] <Titan_windows> Polah_: so it's supposed to pop up before the try/install menu?
[14:04] <Titan_windows> then it failed
[14:04] <Polah_> alex--: Refuse unauthorised connections via iptables.
[14:04] <CaptainQuirk> wols_, well it would not explain why the live CD won't launch a live session
[14:04] <terry> alex--: And others  but mostaly 113
[14:04] <alex--> terry: is there any way to let the attacker think i dont exist? when you try on port 22, but the server just keeps itself quiet, so the attacker thinks: server is down
[14:04] <Titan_windows> my gut tells me to just try to burn a new CD
[14:04] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Yes, holding shift during boot should cause it to pop up.
[14:05] <alex--> is there any list which service uses whcih port?
[14:05] <CaptainQuirk> wols_, could it be ram related ?
[14:05] <Titan_windows> Polah_: maybe my computer is too old for that or something?
[14:05] <terry> Polah_: What i'm saying is to block port 22 specifically.  That way, the hacker sees "filtered"
[14:05] <Titan_windows> Polah_: it's from 1999...
[14:05] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Doesn't depend on the computer, depends on the disc you have.
[14:05] <wh1zz0> Whew.. Please is there anyone here using ubuntu (natty) who has the "Do nothing" option in power management preferences?
[14:06] <terry> Polah_: Since your not using port 22 anyway, it doesn't matter.
[14:06] <Titan_windows> Polah_: well since i know the iso isn't damaged, i can just assume the disc is and i'll make a new one at the proper speed
[14:06] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: could be too. run memtest to check
[14:06] <Ace2o> hi guys,  is it better to use aptitude update or apt-get update?
[14:06] <CaptainQuirk> wolfric, Polah_ , I have an impressive number of errors in the memtest
[14:06] <wols_> Ace2o: doesn't matter. same
[14:07] <SoGooD> dr_willis: will this work? i will boot a live usb and plug in another usb stick where i will install ubuntu. Then, i will uninstall all the packages i don't want before i will install to that other stick.
[14:07] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: i'm curious, can i see a screenshot of your dropdown list (i never use gnome or unity)
[14:07] <Polah_> Ace2o: whichever on you prefer.
[14:07] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: new mobo or new DRAM or new CPU in your future. congrats (I guess...)
[14:07] <dr_willis> SoGooD:  you dont 'uninstall' stuff from a live usb
[14:07] <CaptainQuirk> wols_, Polah_ , well, the problem is that I just bought a new one
[14:07] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: lower your settings. relax timings, lower the clock for your memory
[14:07] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Have you tried booting with alternate RAM?
[14:08] <Ace2o> wols_,  is upgrading the same too?
[14:08] <wols_> CaptainQuirk: could be only one stick of your several is bad.try to change around
[14:08] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, how do I do that ?
[14:08] <wols_> Ace2o: pretty much. is mostly a matter of choice
[14:08] <Polah_> Ace2o: You can't upgrade your system through apt, unless you mean just upgrading packages in which case again, whichever on you prefer to use.
[14:08] <Ace2o> i've read articles where they prefer aptitude over apt-get and it just confuses me
[14:08] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, oh, you mean opening it and changing the ram
[14:09] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Find some alternate sticks of RAM and replace the ones in your computer with them and trying again
[14:09] <wh1zz0> Okie.. I think I've found a solution, I'll just go through it. http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/06/enable-do-nothing-when-laptop-lid-is-closed-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[14:09] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk, if you have more than one stick, try booting with just one in and then if that fails try with just the other.
[14:09] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, I'll start by that yes
[14:09] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Hopefully only one of the sticks will be malfunctioning, in that case.
[14:10] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: seems like a silly feature to not include
[14:10] <Ace2o> ok, so from what I understand i can update the repositories either way but only upgrade using "aptitude" right?
[14:10] <Polah_>  Ace2o: Upgrade packages or your OS version?
[14:10] <wols_> Ace2o: no. you can upgrade using either. or by using synaptic, or yet another libapt based program
[14:10] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Lol.. Why would that be totally forgotten
[14:10] <Ace2o> just security and packages
[14:10] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Jeez
[14:11] <Polah_> Ace2o: Either one can upgrade packages. apt-get upgrade
[14:11] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Well, there must be a reason
[14:11] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: things like that explain why i don't use unity or gnome
[14:11] <anli_> Where do I find gtk+ in synaptic?
[14:11] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[14:11] <anli_> Searching for gtk+ gives me a billion of blind hits
[14:11] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: So what do you use? KDE?
[14:11] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, Well, it seems to have done the trick but the thing is two months old
[14:12] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: xfce
[14:12] <wh1zz0> Ahh okie
[14:12] <ThinkT510> !xubuntu | wh1zz0
[14:12] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, I have four slots on my motherboard, two are yellow and two are black
[14:12] <Myrtti> !google | test
[14:12] <dr_willis> !info olvwm
[14:12] <g0t__> Results for | test on Google:
[14:12] <g0t__> --
[14:12] <g0t_> Results for | test on Google:
[14:12] <g0t_> --
[14:12] <g0t> Results for | test on Google:
[14:12] <g0t> --
[14:12] <FloodBot1> g0t_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:12] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510:  Can you do me a screenshot of how desktop looks?
[14:13] <wh1zz0> Or lemme use google
[14:13] <Ace2o> can anyone tell me what is safe-upgrade?
[14:13] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, is there any chance that they are supposed to be for different kinds of sticks ?
[14:13] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: i customise it a bit from the default look (i'm in arch at the mo but same setup for xubuntu)
[14:13] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Alternating colours? Probably just for better aesthetics/ease of seeing them
[14:14] <Incarus6> anli_, what exactly are you looking for?
[14:14] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Perhaps you could return the faulty stick under warranty if it's only two months old. Depends how long the warranty you got on it is/was, of course
[14:14] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, ok, then I'm going to add two 512 sticks to cover for the 2go loss until I get a new one
[14:15] <milosz> hello
[14:15] <SoGooD> dr_willis : isn't that possible?
[14:15] <Polah_> Ace2o: I imagine it performs the same as apt-get's dist-upgrade. It only upgrades packages suitable for your distribution (I believe that's how it functions), useful if you aren't running the latest version of Ubuntu
[14:15] <CaptainQuirk> Polah_, Yeah, I will probably do that. If the memory test failed, is there any chance that it's for other reason ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Ace2o: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=893793 may help
[14:15] <Titan_windows> what speed should i burn it at then
[14:15] <anli_> Ah, I have gtk+ devel, but not the newest
[14:15] <CaptainQuirk> overall temperature or anything else ?
[14:15] <anli_> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12
[14:15] <Titan_windows> not Maximum obviously but
[14:16] <Polah_> CaptainQuirk: Try running the test again to see if it passes or gives you more errors.
[14:16] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: just uploading now
[14:16] <Titan_windows> 24x, 12x, 6x, 3x?
[14:16] <Ace2o> great! thanks guys.
[14:16] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Most discs have their most suitable speed printed on the front
[14:16] <Titan_windows> ok
[14:16] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: http://imagebin.org/164464
[14:16] <CaptainQuirk> Well, more errors than 150 000 at 60% of the first test run ... I doubt it's achievable !
[14:16] <dr_willis> SoGooD:  you do an install to the 2nd drive.. then boot it.. and remove stuff.
[14:17] <Titan_windows> Polah_: 48x speed compatible, but the last CD obviously didn't work
[14:17] <Titan_windows> so 24x should be safe, right?
[14:17] <Polah_> Titan_windows: Theoretically. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
[14:17] <Titan_windows> okay
[14:17] <dr_willis> try 1x speed :)
[14:17] <Titan_windows> Polah_: no other settings i should be aware of?
[14:17] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: :D hmm really looks good..
[14:18] <Titan_windows> using infrarecorder
[14:18] <anli_> Is it safe to install gtk+3.0 in my ubuntu?
[14:18] <anli_> will dev be included?
[14:18] <Polah_> Titan_windows: I'm not aware of any specific settings of burning discs except variable speeds.
[14:18] <Titan_windows> so all settings default, and speed lowered
[14:18] <Titan_windows> okay.
[14:18] <thrillERboy> Hi, what is the best software for mounting iso and disk images?
[14:18] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: who knows, perhaps maybe it's the bugs in unity causing most of my problems
[14:18] <carl_> Hi, I've just switched over from windows 7 which I found too slow to ubuntu. I used firefox before and I saved my profile into an archive. I read the instructions on the mozilla blog but when I try typing ./firefox -profilemanager it says no such directory exists
[14:18] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: xfce is very underrated in my opinion, definitlt worth a try
[14:18] <Polah_> !best | thrillERboy
[14:19] <carl_> My question is, where do I put my profile so when I start firefox, it loads my settings?
[14:19] <Polah_> thrillERboy, you could try AcetoneISO, it's what I've used. I don't know of any others.
[14:19] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  use the mount command as needed . :)
[14:19] <Polah_> carl_: /home/<username>/.mozilla/firefox/profiles
[14:19] <thrillERboy> Thanks Polah_ dr_willis
[14:20] <Polah_> carl_: Sorry, just /home/<username>/.mozilla/firefox
[14:20] <dr_willis> !iso | thrillERboy
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Polah_: could just use $HOME/.mozilla/firefox
[14:20] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Does dreamweaver run fine on your machine using wine?
[14:21] <carl_> polah_:Thanks. I don't want to use the command line if I can avoid it, can I just drag and paste the profile from the file manager?
[14:21] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: And can you share your LAN connection via WiFi adhoc?
[14:21] <thrillERboy> aetas: Remember me? can recover my disk file, so reinstalled. From now on, I'll backup root.disk every week ;)
[14:21] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: never tried it, don't do any website editing, you can check the wine appdb
[14:21] <anli_> Can I make my ubuntu unusable by installing gtk+3.0 from src?
[14:21] <dr_willis> learn the command line.. :) just learn it. Your patience will be rewarded.
[14:21] <Incarus6> anli_, I think it is not inclued, you will need to install that package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libgtk-3-dev
[14:21] <Polah> carl_: Sure, go to your Home folder and press ctrl+H to show hidden files, open up .mozilla and then go down into firefox
[14:21] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: never tried adhoc wifi mode
[14:22] <thrillERboy> dr_willis: what should I give as mount point? sorry, me half n00b
[14:22] <anli_> Do I have to add something to my sources.list then?
[14:22] <Polah> carl_: also like dr_willis said, you'd benefit from learning how to do things from command line
[14:22] <dr_willis> !mount | thrillERboy
[14:22] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  make a directory.. you mount to a directory
[14:22] <Incarus6> anli_, I don't think so but I suppose you use Lucid, correct?
[14:22] <thrillERboy> So I can mount to any folder?? dr_willis thats what furious ISO was doing I guess.
[14:23] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  thats how mount works...
[14:23] <anli_> I use 10.10
[14:23] <dr_willis> thrillERboy:  sudo mkdir /media/PICKANAME      then 'sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/PICKANAME' is the basics of it all
[14:23] <carl_> I think I'm going to have to. I liked how with windows 98 I didn't need the command line anymore. I don't want to go back to it. There's a reason a GUI is so easy to use, but I'm not going to win any points by saying that
[14:24] <dr_willis> carl_:  i use the command line on windows7 all the time. :)
[14:24] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: Okie ... still looking for a workaround and since I didn't find, decided to use VM
[14:24] <dr_willis> there are text/ncurses based file managers
[14:24] <kkb110> Isn't there a utility that I can perform something like           'copy to clipboard 1'       'paste from clipboard 3'
[14:24] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: But photoshop works well for me
[14:24] <Sidewinder1> carl_, I've been using ubuntu since 2007, and almost, never use CLI. :-)
[14:24] <dr_willis> kkb110:  theres some clipboard utilitues with history buffers.
[14:25] <ThinkT510> wh1zz0: virtualbox i use though, its very good
[14:25] <Polah> carl_: You're forgetting that the Linux command line is extremely powerful and there's a lot of things you can do with it. Often quicker than looking through a GUI.
[14:25] <edbian> carl_: I have been using ubuntu since 2007 and I almost always use cli
[14:25] <Stevezau> is there a channel for 11.10?
[14:25] <dr_willis> Stevezau:  #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <carl_> good for you dr_willis. I see the command line as something that has to be used, not something I want to use. Anyway, I got into my firefox directory. Saw some profile called 685345f.default. No folder called "profile" though. I'm wondering where I put my stuff.
[14:25] <Polah> Stevezau: #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <kkb110> dr_willis, yes, but that's not enough to do that
[14:25] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[14:25] <wh1zz0> ThinkT510: So I heard, so mI'm giving it a try.. Buh I hope it doesn't hang up like a Remote Desktop Session?
[14:25] <edbian> kkb110: What did you ask for? I missed it.
[14:25] <rbnswartz> carl_ yes the Linux command line is pure power and I use it quite a bit
[14:25] <kkb110> ed1703, Isn't there a utility that I can perform something like           'copy to clipboard 1'       'paste from clipboard 3'
[14:26] <dr_willis> Pure Powar! :)
[14:26] <dr_willis> Ive never noticed there being more then 1 clipboard..
[14:26] <edbian> kkb110: I'm not sure.  I could build one though using python! :)  IT would take me probably 1 month
[14:26] <dr_willis> !info xclip
[14:26] <CaptainQuirk> Polah, wols_ , thanks for your help, you saved my day .. Good by
[14:26] <thrillERboy> thanks dr_willis
[14:26] <kkb110> dr_willis, a clipboard manager can emulate that I guess
[14:26] <Incarus6> anli_, you are probably looking for that package, try to install it: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/libgtk2.0-dev
[14:26] <Polah> carl_: For an example, to copy a file you need to open up both directories in nautilus, select it in one, press ctrl+C or right click > copy, switch to the other window and then ctrl+V or right click > paste. With command line you can just do "cp /path/to/file /path/to/destination". Unless you type really slow,  it'll generally be quicker.
[14:27] <dr_willis> kkb110:  i mentioned using a clipboard manager earlier. :)
[14:27] <edbian> kkb110: xclip does not have multiple clipboards.  I don't think there is a linux tool that does
[14:27] <kkb110> edbian, lol but you think it's useful?
[14:27] <kkb110> dr_willis, but most of them just support history, not more, (a step left to get there)
[14:27] <edbian> kkb110: Eh, depends on what you wanna do.  It doesn't do anything the clipboard can't.  Just lets you put things on the clipboard using cli
[14:27] <duelle> Thanks a lot for your help. byebye
[14:27] <carl_> ahh, I saw an ini file which says the path is 585hgsdkt.default, so If I change that to my profile's folder name, well, lessee what happens. Sorry, but you're not going to sell me the virtues of using the command line. I loathe it.
[14:28] <dr_willis> carl_:  firefox has a profile manager option. 'firefox -profile' (i think)
[14:28] <carl_> soo, what, type it into the command line?
[14:29] <dr_willis> to launch it.. yes..
[14:29] <edbian> carl_: firefox --ProfileManager
[14:29] <edbian> carl_: in a term
[14:29] <dr_willis> 2 dashes or 1.. i never can rember.
[14:29] <Sidewinder1> carl_, For file manipulation, with root priv. use "gksudo nautilus, for editing root files use gksudo gedit.
[14:29] <kkb110> edbian, for example, let's say I use two sentences frequently, so I want to paste them often, but if would be better if there is a shortcut for each one that pastes the exact sentence I want
[14:29] <edbian> 2 cause it is more than a single letter
[14:29] <edbian> der
[14:29] <sudipta> is there any channel for gnome shell?
[14:29] <carl_> profile requires a path it says
[14:29] <dr_willis> edbian:  not all apps follow that  standard.. java dosent i belive.
[14:29] <edbian> kkb110: I get the idea of 2 clipboards.  I do not think there is a tool in linux that does that.  xclip def does not do that.
[14:29] <edbian> dr_willis: oh really?
[14:30] <dr_willis> edbian:  try java --help vs java -help
[14:30] <Polah> sudipta: #gnome, ubuntu doesn't like gnome-shell though.
[14:30] <Abhijit> sudipta, #gnome on irc.gnome.org
[14:30] <kkb110> edbian, ok I see.. I guess the only option for me is developing it myself
[14:30]  * edbian believes dr_willis 
[14:30] <edbian> kkb110: Or convincing and waiting for me to
[14:30] <edbian> carl_: I think you have to get your profile out of that folder.
[14:30] <Jeruvy> edbian: glipper
[14:30] <kkb110> edbian, hahaha
[14:30] <edbian> kkb110: glipper
[14:31] <dr_willis> klipper! :)
[14:31] <dr_willis> apt-cache search clipboard
[14:31] <edbian> Jeruvy: klipper
[14:31] <edbian> kkb110: klipper
[14:31] <anli_> I think its called Maverick, donny
[14:31] <anli_> dunno
[14:31] <edbian> dr_willis: glipper
[14:31] <Jeruvy> edbian: I don't use kde ;)
[14:31] <edbian> Jeruvy: I was just being silly
[14:31] <Polah> anli_: Maverick is Ubuntu 10.10
[14:31] <carl_> edbian: I just did it. It was so simple. I dragged and dropped the profile from the archive it was in. Double clicked on the profiles.ini, changed path to "profile" (yes, very imaginative name I know). Started it up, and it all works, save for my pardus copilot addon, but that's fine
[14:31] <anli_> yes
[14:32] <Titanoboa> before i proceed, i might aswell check so im not doing anything wrong at the install..
[14:32] <Jeruvy> edbian: is all good.
[14:32] <edbian> :)
[14:32] <carl_> Great, now I got that setup, lemme try music, see if it comes out via hdmi
[14:32] <semitones_> hey everyone
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Shoot...
[14:32] <Titanoboa> I should download updates while installing, and install the 3rd party software, right? that can\t cause it to fail right?
[14:32] <semitones_> I installed lubuntu yesterday, but I can't get boot to come up, all I get is boot rescue
[14:32] <edbian> carl_: fixed! :D \o/
[14:32] <dr_willis> klipper, glipper, cliput
[14:32] <dr_willis> klipper, glipper, clipit
[14:33] <edbian> Titanoboa: It can cause it to fail if don't have internet I think.
[14:33] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  i alwys instell updates, and 3rd party stuff
[14:33] <Titanoboa> I obviously have internet :)
[14:33] <rbnswartz> semitones_ What happens when you boot up? Be specific
[14:33] <Titanoboa> okay
[14:33] <edbian> Jeruvy: clipit
[14:33] <edbian> kkb110: clipit
[14:33] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  without internet.. its not going to work of course. :)
[14:33] <edbian> dr_willis: clipit
[14:33] <edbian> Titanoboa: then you're good! :D
[14:33] <dr_willis> willis@CowBuntu:~$ apt-cache search clipboard | grep manager
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Install first; then enable 3rd party software sources; then update.
[14:34] <edbian> dr_willis: CowBuntu ?  Does your apt have super cow powers?
[14:34] <dr_willis> edbian:  yes it does.. its a gateway machine :)
[14:34] <edbian> :)
[14:35] <dr_willis> Gotta love the whole black/white cow Motif.
[14:35] <semitones_> rbnswartz, I get "error: out of disk. / grub rescue>"
[14:35]  * Sidewinder1 Remembers twocows, rather fondly.
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> Or was it Tucows?
[14:35] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: :O same error as the last time (first time i've had the same error twice)
[14:35] <Jeruvy> Sidewinder1: its still around
[14:35] <Titanoboa> Failed to create a file system: The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.
[14:35] <edbian> semitones_: out of disc?
[14:35] <rbnswartz> dr willis why not just search for "clipboardr_willis why not apt-cache search clipboard\ manager
[14:35] <semitones_> I read on ubuntuforums that sometimes old bioses can't boot kernels off of a partition bigger than 8gb
[14:36] <semitones_> edbian, disk with a k
[14:36] <dr_willis> rbnswartz:  some times i dont get all the hits then
[14:36] <edbian> semitones_: ha
[14:36] <edbian> semitones_: Are your hdds filled?  That is a strange error for grub
[14:36] <dr_willis> they really need some sort of 'tag' system to go with apt,  searching the descriptions often gets invalid hits.  or missed items
[14:36] <edbian> Titanoboa: Close the installer (not the liveCD just the installer) open gparted
[14:36] <GeekMan> how do i check what programs start up automatically on ubuntu 10.04.3
[14:36] <carl_> ok, I'm going to need your help again. Little background info on my system. It's an Asus AT3ION-T, the graphics being an onboard nvidia ion. I have both hdmi and vga out. Currently I have sound going to my amplifier by a 3.5 to phono lead, and video going via the vga cable to my monitor. I have turned on my telly, which connects to the computer via HDMI. I have no picture or sound going to it
[14:37] <semitones_> edbian, I just installed on a new system. Old pentium 3, huge new hard disk
[14:37] <edbian> GeekMan: When you log in or when the system starts?
[14:37] <GeekMan> when the system starts
[14:37] <edbian> semitones_: That is strange.  Perhaps it has to do with the Bios large hdd option?
[14:37] <compdoc> GeekMan, I install bootup-manager. works great
[14:37] <semitones_> edbian, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331730&page=3, one person fixed it by making a /boot partition
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Perhaps, from LiveCD you could run System--> Administration--> Disk Utility and check the disk for errors/problems; it may be a hardware issue...?
[14:37] <semitones_> do you know how to do that?
[14:37] <edbian> GeekMan: Everything in /etc/rc2.d/ get started
[14:37] <semitones_> I can make an /ext2 partition, but I don't know how to move /boot there
[14:38] <GeekMan> oh ill check that out and thank you i knew it was somthing with an r in it
[14:38] <Polah> What's the program that analyses boot time and programs and reports how long each of them run for?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> Hey BluesKaj
[14:38] <semitones_> Polah, bootchart I think
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[14:38] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: ok, how do i run system
[14:38] <FunnyLookinHat> lol great.
[14:38] <edbian> semitones_: Can you boot a live CD and look at gparted?  It says in post #25 your harddrive was not partitioned correctly
[14:38] <Polah> semitones_: mount that partition at /boot and use grub-install there
[14:38] <edbian> Titanoboa: Are you talking to me?
[14:38] <alex--> who can kick him?
[14:39] <LjL> alex--: has already been banned
[14:39] <Incarus6> !op
[14:39] <alex--> ok
[14:39] <semitones_> edbian, sure I can do that, but I never posted on that thread
[14:39] <Incarus6> sry
[14:39]  * LjL rolls eyes
[14:39] <frankl> lmao
[14:39]  * jiltdil hate ubottu when it says "I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[14:39] <Titanoboa> edbian: i'm talking to Sidewinder1 :o
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hi Sidewinder1
[14:39] <Polah> semitones_ that's the one.
[14:39] <carl_> I've used the nvidia x config thingy, clicked on detect displays, but it's not picking up the screen
[14:39] <GeekMan> >_<
[14:39] <frankl> severe autism detected in this channel
[14:39] <shiva_> good morning
[14:39] <carl_> oh herp de derp!
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Boot LiveCD; click on System--> Administration--> Disk Utility...
[14:39] <edbian> semitones_: I know. someone who had the same problem said that happened to him
[14:39] <wendell> What was that?
[14:39] <carl_> Of course it won't pick it up, it's not plugged in
[14:39] <edbian> Titanoboa: k
[14:40] <edbian> carl_: herp derp
[14:40] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: but there's no "system" anywhere
[14:40] <edbian> wendell: spammer
[14:40] <semitones_> edbian, ok, live cd takes about 5-10 minutes to boot up, hold on
[14:40] <edbian> semitones_: ugh :(
[14:40] <wendell> edbian: weird
[14:40] <GeekMan> so if i dont see samba or smbd does this mean my samba doesnt start up unless i log on
[14:40] <Sidewinder1> !classic | Titanoboa
[14:40] <edbian> wendell: It happens occasionally
[14:40] <semitones_> edbian, usb is faster, but I lent mine all out to other people :P
[14:41] <semitones_> PloP bootloader > USB
[14:41] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: is that even possible on live cd?
[14:41] <carl_> To anyone using livecd's, if your system supports boot from USB, use it. So much faster and saves on cd's.
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, I don't use 11.04, so I'm not sure the proceedure, sorry... :-(
[14:41] <edbian> GeekMan: mmm that's odd.  Do you have samba-server installed?
[14:42] <GeekMan> yeah?? im looking under etc/rc2.d
[14:42] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: what should i type into terminal to open it_
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, But even in Unity, there's gotta' be a way to get into Disk Utility.
[14:42] <Titanoboa> ?
[14:42] <GeekMan> my hamachi is in there
[14:42] <edbian> GeekMan: Is smbd showing up in ps -e  ?
[14:42] <carl_> Anyway, the telly is plugged in both ends now, it's on, HDMI is selected from it'#s menu, but it's not being picked up my nvidias x server config util. I don't want to restart and have it as primary.
[14:42] <edbian> GeekMan: It's strange that it's not in there.  Perhaps there is another place it might be ....
[14:43] <GeekMan> yeah it it
[14:43] <GeekMan> *is
[14:43] <dr_willis> carl_:  ran nvidia-settings yet?
[14:43] <GeekMan> i could just restart the server and check
[14:43] <wendell> edbian: while i have someone, am I able to listen to radio on last.fm via Banshee?
[14:43] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, I haven't the foggiest idea how to access Disk Utility from terminal.
[14:43] <carl_> dr_willis: I got the nvidia x server settings up right now
[14:43] <Titanoboa> ok
[14:43] <edbian> wendell: I think so.  I've never done it.
[14:43] <Tech-1> as root
[14:43] <GeekMan> but i just missed my service hours i set for shutting of the connection
[14:44] <wendell> edbian: ok
[14:44] <edbian> GeekMan: I'm fairly sure it will start on reboot.
[14:44] <GeekMan> ok :)
[14:44] <dr_willis> carl_:  you should be able to check twinview/enable the tv. and hit apply and it should turn on. but it wont be totally right untill you save the x config. and restart the X server.
[14:44] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: well I have this "Install Ubuntu 11.04" icon right above the "Home Folder" icon. Maybe that's where "System" is supposed to be?
[14:44] <carl_> ugh, so system restart then?
[14:45] <edbian> carl_: configuring graphics requires a lot of those
[14:45] <edbian> Sidewinder1: Titanoboa is using unity on 11.04 sounds like.
[14:45] <dr_willis> carl_:   twinview will work without it.. but some apps may act oddly untill you do
[14:45] <GeekMan> edbian: if im using ssh and do a system update that requires me to restart can i still shh log on after the reboot (its a stupid question)
[14:45] <Titanoboa> edbian: yes I am
[14:45] <frankl> !ops mrmist is trying to netsex me
[14:45] <edbian> GeekMan: yes.  ssh is another service so it starts before anybody logs in
[14:45] <GeekMan> oh good :)
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Try in terminal palimpset
[14:45] <dr_willis> Unless the updates break things... :)
[14:46] <Titanoboa> ok
[14:46] <wendell> On an offtopic note: Updating is taking FOREVER.... I really hope it fixes the issues
[14:46] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: did you mean palimpsest?
[14:46] <carl_> ok, going to restart. That ususally solves issues. See you soon if it doesn't
[14:46] <edbian> wendell: How many package do you have to update?  The first one usually takes a long time
[14:46] <giuly> hi, i've got some troubles connecting my new printer via wireless. please can anybody  help me
[14:46] <wendell> 193
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Check that! You'll probably need to use gksudo palimpset.
[14:46] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: it opened disk utilities :)
[14:47] <edbian> wendell: That's a lot
[14:47] <terry> wendell: It WILL take a long time, depending on your connection speeds...
[14:47] <edbian> GeekMan: Can you pastebin ls /etc/rc2.d/  ?
[14:47] <giuly> it's a hp deskjet 3050 and ubuntu 10.10, hplip it's already installed
[14:47] <wendell> Yeah, 128MB total....
[14:47] <GeekMan> yeah
[14:47] <GeekMan> hold on
[14:47] <edbian> GeekMan: thanks
[14:47] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: SMART Status says "Disk has a few bad sectors" with a green button next to it D:
[14:48] <terry> wendell: Is your connection speed 1.5Mbps ?
[14:48] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Yes, gksudo palimpsest    sorry...
[14:48] <Titanoboa> kk
[14:48] <wendell> terry: I think it's more, but I'm too far away from my modem and router
[14:48] <wendell> terry: Too lazy to move the laptop... haha
[14:48] <terry> wendell: Wireless ?
[14:49] <wendell> yes
[14:49] <terry> ok
[14:49] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: just typing palimpsest opened disk utitilies (that's what we wanted right?) and gksudo palimpsest did nothing
[14:50] <thauriswulfa> HELP: Just installed xubuntu but their is no windows option in grub what to do?
[14:50] <carl_> Hi folks, back again. Restarted but nope, it's not picking up the telly
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, "Few bad sectors" is not that unusual. It should, therefore, work; unfortunately, I've kinda' run out of idead, at this point, sorry. :-(
[14:50] <edbian> thauriswulfa: log into ubuntu, run sudo update-grub
[14:50] <Titanoboa> Sidewinder1: what were we looking for in disk utilites though?
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> ideas, even.
[14:50] <GeekMan> i forget how i use it i install pastebinit then type pastebinit -b ls    #under rc2.d dir
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> Yes
[14:50] <edbian> Titanoboa: can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l  for me?  paste.ubuntu.com
[14:51] <Titanoboa> sure thing, hold on
[14:51] <edbian> GeekMan: paste.ubuntu.com  is probably easier
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Stand by, let me look...
[14:51] <giuly> any idea?
[14:51] <GeekMan> :P
[14:51] <semitones_> edbian, ok i'm in gparted, everything looks normal to me
[14:52] <semitones_> what did you want to look for?
[14:52] <edbian> semitones_: Ummm, what is your error again? :P
[14:52] <Titanoboa> edbian: after doing the palimpsest no commands are working, do i have to type something to go back or something
[14:52] <ionite> i got this error vesamenu.c32
[14:52] <GeekMan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/650643/
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> Titanoboa, Under Disk Utility, you should be able to click on "Check/Repair File System"
[14:53] <edbian> Titanoboa: IDK.  close the terminal and open a new one
[14:53] <ionite> I got this error: vesamenu.c32: Not a com32R image                            what should i do?
[14:53] <edbian> GeekMan: reading...
[14:53] <edbian> GeekMan: I am very confused.  ssh is not listed here either!
[14:53] <compdoc> Titanoboa, before checking your filesystem, in palimpsest click the SMART data button
[14:54] <thauriswulfa> edbian: it was not found on upgradation, is  there  any problem ,because i deleted one 100 mb partition while partitioning?
[14:54] <edbian> thauriswulfa: That might be a problem :(  Is this windows 7 ?
[14:54] <dr_willis> thauriswulfa:  you may have deleted the windows 7 'boot' partition...
[14:54] <thauriswulfa> dr_willis: is there any way to restore that?
[14:54] <ionite> can anyone help me?
[14:55] <Titanoboa> compdoc: on the Hard Disk or the 690MB file (which i suppose is the livecd)
[14:55] <dr_willis> ive herd you can somehow fix that and make windows not use one.. but id say ask in #windows, or google.
[14:55] <GeekMan> i went under etc/ and there is the following rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d 3 4 5 6 rcs.d rc.local
[14:55] <terry> edbian: What are you trying to do?  "confused"...?
[14:55] <crazy3k_> How much RAM can I have in a 32-bit Ubuntu system?
[14:55] <edbian> GeekMan: yeah... all run levels
[14:55] <edbian> crazy3k_: approx. 3.2Gb
[14:55] <GeekMan> ah
[14:55] <Polah> crazy3k_: Approximately 3.2GB
[14:55] <compdoc> Titanoboa, select the hard drive, and open its smart data. any reallocated sectors? (in the raw data column)
[14:55] <edbian> terry: GeekMan is missing services he has installed in /etc/rc2.d/
[14:56] <Titanoboa> yeah compdoc
[14:56] <Polah> edbian: hmm, is it Gb rather than GB, or did you mean GB?
[14:56] <terry> o
[14:56] <GeekMan> maybe i should look under local maybe it wants to start at a user level
[14:56] <Titanoboa> compdoc: i can't seem to copy/paste it though
[14:56] <semitones__> crazy3k_, i heard you could use more too with a special method
[14:56] <compdoc> Titanoboa, how many reallocated?
[14:56] <edbian> Polah: I meant GigaBytes   because nobody ever mean GigaBits
[14:56] <GeekMan> i have no clue :P
[14:56] <semitones__> edbian, what did you want me to look for in gparted?
[14:56] <Titanoboa> compdoc: 1 sector
[14:56] <thauriswulfa> dr_willis: thanks I 'll try
[14:56] <Polah> edbian: If you're talking about networking people do (:
[14:57] <edbian> GeekMan: Those are run levels.  rc2.d is the one normally used.  0 is for shutdown, 6 is for reboot, 1 is single user mode.  The others aren't really used in debian
[14:57] <Titanoboa> compdoc: actually, 2 sectors
[14:57] <edbian> Polah: :P
[14:57] <carl_> just tried restarting the telly to see if that'd help, nvidia x server still won't pick it up. I thought HDMI was supposed to be easier than vga?
[14:57] <compdoc> Titanoboa, thats good its not more. Any Pending Sectors Count? or Offline Uncorrectable?
[14:57] <semitones_> edbian, error: out of disk. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331730
[14:57] <Polah> edbian: You need to be specific, there's a bit difference between the two!
[14:57] <crazy3k_> edbian, Polah, semitones__: Thanks.
[14:57] <edbian> Polah: :)
[14:57] <consolecowboy> hello, I have auto-login enabled, and every time I boot I need to unlock the keyring 2, 3, sometimes 4 times. Fairly recent issue. I tried changing the password in Passwords and Encryption Keys to blank, but it seems it's reverting to my normal password.
[14:58] <compdoc> Titanoboa, reallocated sectors are a concern - its something you need to watch. if that number grows, you need to replace the drive
[14:58] <ionite> I got this error: vesamenu.c32: Not a com32R image                            what should i do?
[14:58] <GeekMan> edbian thats nice to know i read about that somewhere but i have since for gotten so what should we do write some scripts i had to do something similar to make my fans work on an ibookg4
[14:58] <Titanoboa> compdoc: my bad, 1 reallocated and 1 "Current Pending Sector Count"
[14:59] <semitones_> I'm going to make a new partition. How do I migrate /boot onto it?
[14:59] <semitones_> and is it ok if it's a logical partition, or should it be primary
[14:59] <edbian> GeekMan: Well when you install ssh it should but a script in /etc/rc2.d/  Reboot the machine and see if sshd starts again.  Then we'll look for it.
[14:59] <Polah> semitones: mount the partition at /boot/ and install GRUB there
[14:59] <GeekMan> ok :)
[14:59] <Titanoboa> compdoc: the reason for getting linux in the first place is that windows wouldn't boot. I then realized it might be my hard drive, and so I took away the old master and put made the old slave master. Seems like both are broken?
[15:00] <semitones_> Polah, do I have to change fstop?
[15:00] <Titanoboa> which makes me believe that it's something else's fault D:
[15:00] <Polah> semitones_: Don't know what that is, sorry.
[15:00] <compdoc> Titanoboa, it can happen. I repair computers for a living and have seen many things like that
[15:00] <semitones__> Polah, it's the thing that automatically boots partitions certain places
[15:01] <Polah> semitones__: You mean fstab?
[15:01] <Titanoboa> compdoc: so if I were to buy a new hard drive, installing linux might work?
[15:01] <semitones__> yeah
[15:01] <Shaba1> Hello does anyoneknow of any "wubi' specific forums
[15:01] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  could be the controller, or cables also. ive seen nicked cables cause issues.
[15:02] <compdoc> Titanoboa, 1 or 2 reallocated sectors is not going to prevent you installing an OS. something else seems to be going on
[15:02] <Titanoboa> Yeah, because two hard drives breaking overnight seems illogical
[15:02] <Titanoboa> cable would make more sense
[15:02] <GeekMan> results
[15:02] <consolecowboy> anyone else having issues with default keyring?
[15:02] <GeekMan> *same results
[15:02] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  power surge perhaps.. but thats a bit rare.
[15:03] <Tech-1> could be a bad port
[15:03] <semitones__> has anyone else heard of old BIOSes not being able to boot a kernel past the 8GB mark on a hard disk?
[15:04] <compdoc> semitones__, that would have to be a very old bios
[15:04] <semitones_> compdoc, how old? mine is the middle 90's at least
[15:04] <onca> I'd like to configure my ubuntu like the LiveDVD where should I begin.
[15:04] <dr_willis> semitones_:  old ones couldent handle past the 1024th cylinder..
[15:04] <GeekMan> ebdian: i wonder why its like this
[15:04] <onca> how do I get that nifty menu and panel on the left?
[15:05] <terry> onca: You want the desktop to look the same?
[15:05] <ionite> I got this error: vesamenu.c32: Not a com32R image                            what should i do?
[15:05] <onca> yah.
[15:05] <compdoc> semitones_, oh, you mean too old to boot a partition thats been created past the 8G area?
[15:05] <dr_willis> ionite:  this is on a live-usb flash drive you made?
[15:05] <GeekMan> i can ssh and all that stuff when i log on and what not
[15:05] <semitones_> dr_willis, how much is a cylinder
[15:05] <onca> but i have a older install.
[15:05] <dr_willis> semitones_:  it totally depends on the drive and controllers can remap them. so theres no set  size
[15:05] <onca> I guess I should start by getting compiz-fusion ??
[15:05] <dr_willis> semitones_:  thats one of the reasons for the use of a /boot/ partition at the very very start of the hard drive
[15:06] <compdoc> semitones_, are you dual booting?
[15:06] <semitones_> compdoc, I don't know, either way my computer won't boot and it's a fresh install. I get error: out of disk, and the only plausible reason I've read of so far is that my partition is 150GB when some bioses can only handle ones that are less than 8GB
[15:06] <Titanoboa> compdoc/dr_willis: so I should try to replace some cables? which ones would I go for? the one with 40 pins?
[15:06] <dr_willis> onca: what verson are you using?
[15:06] <semitones_> dr_willis, see above also :)
[15:06] <terry> onca: I suppose you could rm -rf ~/.gnome  and then boot the LiveCD and mount the HD and cp -a ~/.gnome /media/onca/  Something like that.  Oh,,, that is if you are using gnome.
[15:06] <semitones_> compdoc, singleboot, lubuntu
[15:06] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  ide cables? i had a box of them. :)   i dont even have any more. moved to all sata
[15:07] <onca> the live cd is http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml
[15:07] <compdoc> semitones_, what cpu does it have?
[15:07] <onca> oops
[15:07] <Titanoboa> dr_willis: i have no idea what any of the cables' names are
[15:07] <semitones_> compdoc, Pentium 3, 733 MHz
[15:07] <terry> onca: gentoo?
[15:07] <onca> the live cd is oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:07] <Tech-1> wow
[15:07] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  sata are little red normally.. ide are real wide.
[15:07] <compdoc> semitones_, that is old
[15:07] <onca> terry, yah sorry.
[15:07] <semitones_> yep, but lubuntu runs fine, once I have it installed
[15:08] <dr_willis> onca:   you dont want to be using the 'alpha' testing release yet.
[15:08] <onca> but the liveCD is the current one. I also like Ubuntu.
[15:08] <Tech-1> semitones  ya, go for the 40 pin on the hard drive
[15:08] <Titanoboa> dr_willis: yeah mine are real wide (my comp is from 1999) and have 40 pins (how many contacts are there with 20x2 pins? :P)
[15:08] <onca> dr_willis, none the less.
[15:08] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  i seem to recall an 80pin ide also..
[15:08] <Titanoboa> dr_willis: so yeah i guess im talking about ide
[15:08] <onca> my question remains the same.
[15:08] <onca> where do I begin
[15:08] <Titanoboa> dr_willis: so ide is ancient stuff?
[15:08] <onca> to setup gnome like that?
[15:08] <dr_willis> onca:  all the more reason... its not supported here.. See #ubuntu+1  and lets just say that my 11.10 install has had X broken for the last 4 days. :)
[15:08] <terry> onca: You can customize your desktop to look like anything you wish. Just work with it a little until you get what you want.
[15:09] <xangua> onca: by installing ubuntu 11.04 ¿
[15:09] <semitones_> oh weird
[15:09] <semitones_> it looks like gparted froze out on the lubuntu computer
[15:09] <onca> xangua, there must be another way
[15:09] <semitones_> trying to move the 150GB partition
[15:09] <onca> yikes
[15:09] <onca> don't
[15:09] <dr_willis> Titanoboa:  its old. :)  still around. but slowly going bye bye
[15:09] <Tech-1> i put debian on 1 of those 1nce, worked pretty good.
[15:10] <dr_willis> onca:  if you have the proper 3d drivers instdalled you should be geting the unity desktop.
[15:10] <terry> semitones_: If you have a lot of data on that 150G partiton, it will take a while.
[15:10] <semitones_> terry, no data, fresh install. I just saw semitones__ quit :P
[15:10] <GeekMan> hey should i use somthing like firestarter also guys if im using a vpn samba server (question open to all)
[15:11] <terry> semitones_: Well, I don't understand why someone would be trying to move a 150GB partitions if it is empty.
[15:12] <terry> GeekMan: Depends on what you want to do with your firewall.
[15:13] <GeekMan> lol i wouldnt know lol im a noob to networking i finally started to get it now
[15:13] <ionite> hi can anyone help me?
[15:13] <terry> GeekMan: A firewall (as far as security is concerned) is used to protect yourself from an untrusted network.
[15:13] <GeekMan> i have clam run on a cron
[15:14] <rbnswartz> semitones_ sorry I had to jump out. any progress
[15:14] <Polah> ionite: Maybe.
[15:14] <rbnswartz> ionite just shout out a question sombody should help you
[15:14] <GeekMan> well i know that but i thought you were asking what specific needs i need it for
[15:14] <GeekMan> which i could only say to keep out snoops
[15:14] <GeekMan> xD
[15:15] <ionite> I got a problem: vesamenu.c32 Not a com32R image
[15:15] <SoGooD> who among you have used XPUD?
[15:16] <ionite> I got a problem: vesamenu.c32 Not a com32R image
[15:16] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. I just wanna say I LOVE OPEN SOURCE.. :D
[15:16] <GeekMan> terry but its a vpn so shouldnt i have a little more protection that way anyways i was just trying to see if it was something important at the moment. i only have a user base of 3 so
[15:16] <terry> GeekMan: If you are using it on a gateway computer, yes it will "keep out snoops".  But if you are on a LAN behind a router and a DSL modem or Cable Modem, not so important.  The router / DSL modem is probably protection enough.
[15:16] <Darkfd> Anyone here use gnome 3 and have tried the merlin file manager?
[15:16] <GeekMan> terry THANKS :)
[15:17] <rbnswartz> ionite Is Are you trying to boot a CD or USB device?
[15:17] <ionite> USB device
[15:17] <ionite> i tried boot: live and boot: help, both doesn't work. my screen just freezed at DOS mode
[15:17] <xangua> Darkfd: gnome 3 is currently not supported
[15:17] <rbnswartz> ionite have you tried rebuilding the USB device
[15:17] <ionite> what do u mean rebuilding?
[15:18] <GeekMan> i kinda dont like gnome 3 or unity its sad i think but maybe it will get better soon anywho thats about as much rambling ill do for the day
[15:19] <ssquirrel> can anyone tell me how to implement this command : sudo iptables -A udp_flood -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 2 -j DROP ???
[15:19] <ssquirrel> it's not working for me
[15:19] <ssquirrel> maybe OUTPUT
[15:19] <ssquirrel> ??
[15:20] <rbnswartz> ionite make a new ubuntu USB device
[15:20] <ionite> i did
[15:20] <Kre10s_> hey. I want to list installed packages on command line... any way to do this with apt-cache?
[15:20] <dr_willis> !clone
[15:20] <szal> Kre10s_: no, but 'dpkg -l'
[15:20] <dr_willis> that command above puts them in a file 'my-packages'  Kre10s_
[15:21] <Tech-1> neet
[15:21] <Tech-1> i should try that some time
[15:21] <dr_willis> if cloning frome system to a nother.. be carefull you dont install the wrong drivers for  the new system
[15:21] <Tech-1> does it require it to be the same h/d ?
[15:21] <Kre10s_> i don't have aptitude :/
[15:21] <dr_willis> install it then...
[15:22] <GeekMan> :D
[15:22] <mouse> what's the command again for the kernel version?
[15:22] <Kre10s_> I am trying to strip out packages from a system in a chroot environment... and need some way of knowing whats installed.
[15:23] <Kre10s_> uname -a
[15:23] <ajah> how to i see the workgroup witch i create from samba server configuration gui
[15:23] <rbnswartz> ionite What did you use to build it.
[15:23] <BluesKaj> Kre10s_, sudo apt-get install aptitiude
[15:23] <semitones_> terry, my computer won't boot from an 150GB partition, so i'm making a /boot partition infront of it. I didn't want to reinstall, but I think I will because gparted froze
[15:23] <ionite> Unetbootin
[15:23] <semitones_> rbnswartz, no progress yet. Reinstalling with a /boot partition
[15:23] <ionite> rbnswartz: unetbootin
[15:23] <dr_willis> ajah:  it should be in /etc/samba/smb.conf  or try the smbtree or findsmb command.
[15:23] <Polah> mouse: uname -r
[15:24] <natrixnatrix89> does anyone know where to download an older version of skype? the current one hangs all the time..
[15:24] <rbnswartz> Use the ubuntu live usb creator. It comes on the CD and the installed OS
[15:24] <mouse> ty Kre10s i was seeing if the kernel was still 2.3.68-10 or the new 3
[15:24] <natrixnatrix89> or is it not the version problem?
[15:25] <rbnswartz> ionite Use the ubuntu live usb creator. It comes on the CD and the installed OS
[15:25] <dr_willis> ionite:  you may want to try some tools from the Pendrivelinux site to make the  live-usb.
[15:25] <dr_willis> ionite:  what version of ubuntu are you using to make the usb? what bersion is on the usb?
[15:25] <amanforindia> is it possible to play dual subtitles on vlc?
[15:25] <ionite> 11.04 natty
[15:26] <dr_willis> ionite:  so you are using a 11.04 install to make a 11.04 live-usb ?
[15:26] <ionite> no
[15:26] <ajah> dr_willis MSHOME section what refers to
[15:26] <dr_willis> ajah:  thats your workgroup i think
[15:26] <ionite> i'm using XP pro to install on a SD 8gb card and boot from the SD card
[15:26] <mouse> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-3-0-Released-Adds-Support-for-Microsoft-Kinect-212844.shtml   <is it stable?
[15:27] <Kre10s_> so theres no way to list installed packages with just apt-* ?
[15:27] <dr_willis>  grep  WORKGROUP /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:27] <exutux> Kre10s_: man dpkg
[15:27] <dr_willis> ionite:  ive never had booting from 'sd' work for me.
[15:28] <ionite> it's a USB drive concept. it should work, shouldn't it? be it a thumb drive or SD card
[15:28] <semitones_> does /boot have to be on its own primary partition?
[15:28] <dr_willis> ionite:  you may want to try some of the tools at pendrivelinux. its possible you may be able to edit the syslinux config on the live-install to boot  'live' or 'install' and skip the fancy menu.
[15:28] <semitones_> or can it be on a logical one and do fine?
[15:28] <exutux> Kre10s_: --get-selections  and --set-selections for reinstall, look in man
[15:28] <semitones_> remember, really old bios
[15:28] <dr_willis> ionite:  ive had several pc's that never ever booted from sd card.  the built in controller was not bootable.
[15:29] <ionite> my Bios allow boot from SD.  I'm trying out the Pen Drive linux u suggested. hope it works
[15:31] <ajah> dr_willis sorry for question but how can i access shares on my workgroup of ubuntu machine from windows xp machine ?
[15:31] <dr_willis> a few releases back. oI had to edit the syslinux configs to make live-usbs work with the usb-creator tools.
[15:31] <dr_willis> ajah:  you should be able to browse to the machine, same as you would any other share on the network. You prob. should make the 'workgroup' the same
[15:32] <dr_willis> or enter the server and share name  directly...  \\192.168.1.111\sharename
[15:32] <ionite> dr_willis:  What should I do if Linux Live USB creator doesnt works?
[15:32] <ajah> i`ll try
[15:33] <BluesKaj> how's the state of nvidia drivers on X with the new 3.0 kernel release ?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> oops , I should ask elsewhere
[15:34] <ajah> dr_willis thanks your second suggestion directly with ip of the host work for me
[15:35] <ubuntuguest> I know you guys are going to tell me to upgrade
[15:35] <ubuntuguest> but my 9.10 ubuntu fails to boot all of a sudden do to the hard drive being disconnected (bad connection inside computer) while the computer was on
[15:35] <xangua> ubuntuguest: then do it
[15:35] <ubuntuguest> the computer froze
[15:36] <ubuntuguest> yeah I was just wondering if there was a way to fix the existing ubuntu
[15:37] <share> dr_willis: nice hilight :P
[15:37] <ubuntuguest> I don't want to upgrade because a) all the drivers are working for the hardware I have, B) backing up / restoring everything is a pain, and C) amarok 1.4 doesnt work (I dont think) for Ubuntu 10.x
[15:37] <ubuntuguest> the computer works fine on the live cd, I ran fsck on /dev/sda1 and it says its ok,
[15:38] <share> ubuntuguest: so dont upgrade
[15:38] <ubuntuguest> what happens is when the computer boots, the screen flickers right as it is trying to boot, and then it just freezes
[15:39] <gigenieks> Hi all!
[15:39] <dr_willis> bbl. off to store.
[15:39] <share> k
[15:39] <ubuntuguest> is there any way besides reinstalling the o/s that I can revive the os partition ?
[15:39] <gigenieks> I need help too
[15:39] <burpi> hello
[15:39] <gigenieks> Can someone, posted my problems in ubuntuforums.org
[15:40] <gigenieks> so far no help :(
[15:40] <gigenieks> ?
[15:41] <gigenieks> Why doesn't anybody answer?
[15:41] <th0r> gigenieks: so far you have said absolutely nothing about the problem
[15:42] <ronqbc> how can i show hebrew in keepassx like in windows?
[15:42] <gigenieks> ahh
[15:42] <gigenieks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11077918#post11077918
[15:42] <bartipl> ?
[15:43] <gigenieks> I am going to install Kubuntu
[15:43] <gigenieks> in dual-boot with Win7
[15:43] <gigenieks> but dont have any repair medium
[15:43] <gigenieks> so I made USB repair
[15:43] <wols_> gint900: we do not support windows. you have a windows problem
[15:43] <wols_> gigenieks: ^^
[15:43] <Guest57977> it is dangerous to have ubuntu and win 7?
[15:44] <wols_> Guest57977: no
[15:44] <Reikoku> No
[15:44] <xangua> Guest57977: no
[15:44] <Guest57977> so why rescue flash?
[15:44] <th0r> does anyone remember the old burma shave signs. Reading some of these posts is just like speeding down the highway
[15:44] <Reikoku> Other than the inherent dangers of Windows 7 in general, no :P
[15:44] <wols_> Guest57977: backups are always important to have
[15:44] <gigenieks> ofcourse but it is my fathers pc
[15:44] <love4linux> hello everyone... I am trying to install nrlOLSR (a routing protocol for mobile ad hoc networks) and during 'make' I get this:
[15:44] <naomi__> backups why?
[15:44] <gigenieks> and I need to have both
[15:44] <love4linux> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpcap
[15:44] <love4linux> ../common/nrlolsr.o: In function `memset':
[15:44] <love4linux> /usr/include/bits/string3.h:82: warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters
[15:44] <naomi__> my ubuntu works nice
[15:45] <love4linux> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[15:45] <love4linux> make: *** [nrlolsrd] Error 1
[15:45] <gigenieks> Win 7 & kubuntu
[15:45] <love4linux> can anyone help me with this?
[15:45] <Reikoku> Use pastebin
[15:45] <FloodBot1> love4linux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <share> naomi__: but OS doesnt prevent your harddrive from failing
[15:45] <semitones_> can I get a sanity check for my new partition table?
[15:45] <semitones_> 600 mb primary, /boot
[15:45] <naomi__> how longn hdd operate without errors?
[15:46] <gigenieks> I'm kinda desperate... :(
[15:46] <wols_> !ot | gigenieks
[15:46] <love4linux> !guidelines
[15:46] <wols_> semitones_: about 4 times to big for boot
[15:47] <trijntje> gigenieks: whats the problem?
[15:47] <semitones_> 10GB logical, /, 140GB logical, /home, 1GB logical, swap. Does that look sane?
[15:47] <wols_> semitones_: how much RAM?
[15:47] <semitones_> wols_, ok I can make it like 150 mb
[15:47] <semitones_> wols_, 512mb
[15:47] <semitones_> I was going by the 2x ram rule
[15:47] <edbian> semitones_: Every logical partition must be inside an extended partition.  They can all be in the same one.
[15:47] <wols_> semitones_: I suggest xfce instead of unity
[15:48] <gigenieks> trijntje, see link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11077918#post11077918
[15:48] <wols_> gigenieks: ##windows
[15:48] <edbian> wols_: I think unity will work for him
[15:48] <gigenieks> ubottu: ok, so where I can go with my "windows problem" ?
[15:48] <wols_> edbian: in 512MB? sure he can run it, but he doesn't want to
[15:48] <wols_> gigenieks: /join ##windows
[15:49] <gigenieks> is it Windows comunity or are there Linux guys helping with windows problems?
[15:49] <Polah> gigenieks, #windows
[15:49] <semitones_> wols_, i'm using lubuntu
[15:49] <edbian> wols_: semitones_ I just think it's too close a call to make the decision for you
[15:49] <wols_> semitones_: fine then :)
[15:49] <edbian> semitones_: alright
[15:50] <semitones_> edbian, i just wanted to make sure that its ok to have / /home and swap all inside an extended partition
[15:50] <edbian> semitones_: That is totally fine
[15:50] <semitones_> but I thought /boot probably ought to be primary
[15:50] <gigenieks> OK I will try...
[15:50] <w3rd_> hey guys is there any options to install linux right to the hard drive in a booted OS?
[15:50] <edbian> semitones_: I don't think it has too but I guess it's a bit safer
[15:50] <edbian> w3rd_: You mean like wubi?
[15:51] <w3rd_> whats wubi/
[15:51] <w3rd_> ?
[15:51] <xangua> w3rd_: virtual box¿
[15:51] <w3rd_> actually yes
[15:51] <wols_> w3rd_: if the booted OS is a linux, then yes, you can use debootstrap
[15:51] <w3rd_> like wubi
[15:51] <quentin>    
[15:51] <quentin>  
[15:51] <quentin>  
[15:51] <FloodBot1> quentin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:51] <w3rd_> let me take a look at that
[15:51] <tobiassjosten> I have only one partition for / and now I want to use ACL for a directory in my home directory. Are there any downsides to enabling ACL in /etc/fstab for the entire disk for this?
[15:51] <Mandrake> what is the packge to download youtube videos?
[15:51] <edbian> w3rd_: wubi
[15:52] <edbian> w3rd_: wubi lets you install while inside windows.
[15:52] <love4linux> Reikoku: i typed what I wanted in pastebin.. what do I do now ?
[15:52] <xangua> !info youtube-dl | Mandrake
[15:52] <edbian> w3rd_: It is not the best though...
[15:52] <Syniq> /43/4
[15:52] <anli_> ok, seems that I have harmed my system by installing gtk+ 3.0 from source
[15:52] <Syniq> er... grr
[15:52] <w3rd_> right
[15:52] <anli_> Is there a way to recover packages?
[15:52] <w3rd_> but i need to do that while in linux
[15:52] <Mandrake> always
[15:52] <xangua> anli_: uninstall gtk3
[15:52] <anli_> Maybe just reinstall all packages
[15:53] <edbian> w3rd_: Wubi runs in windows
[15:53] <anli_> xangua: You mean to run "make uninstall"?
[15:53] <Mandrake> this dont work all the time
[15:53] <Polah> w3rd_: Someone mentioned above, use debootstrap
[15:53] <love4linux> how do I use pastebin?
[15:53] <w3rd_> alright
[15:53] <w3rd_> will give debootstrap some research
[15:53] <xangua> anli_: if it's from source yes
[15:53] <Reikoku> love4linux: You link the pastebin :P
[15:53] <w3rd_> is debootstrap specific to ubuntu??
[15:53] <love4linux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/650672/
[15:53] <xangua> or follow the uninstal instructions anli_
[15:53] <edbian> w3rd_: nope
[15:53] <w3rd_> k
[15:54] <edbian> w3rd_: has Debian right in the name!
[15:54] <anli_> Or maybe if I just could redownload every package I have installed previously and install them again?
[15:54] <anli_> Then gtk+ would be overwritten
[15:54] <Mandrake> remember to clean the cache
[15:55] <love4linux> Reikoku: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650672/
[15:56] <w3rd_> thx
[15:56] <edbian> love4linux: I think there is a problem with the source code
[15:57] <edbian> w3rd_: I suggest a real install as opposed to wubi.
[15:58] <love4linux> edbian: hmm... any further suggestions, like how to find or provide more info?
[15:58] <Reikoku> love4linux: You're missing perl's pcap extension I believe
[15:58]  * wols_ agrees with edbian wholeheartedly
[15:58] <edbian> love4linux: Contact the developers.  Search for that error.  But you're doing things correctly on your end.
[15:58] <love4linux> edbian: okay I will try to install it now and see how it goes
[15:58] <edbian> love4linux: Maybe Reikoku is on to something...
[15:58] <Reikoku> edbian: That says that it can't find lpcap, that's the Net::pcap library for perl
[15:59] <edbian> Reikoku: :)
[15:59] <Reikoku> How you'd get lpcap on ubuntu, unfortunately, I don't know
[15:59] <wols_> love4linux: are libpcap and the -dev package both installed?
[15:59] <edbian> wols_: You agree with wubi, not love4linux problem right?
[15:59] <Reikoku> It's probably not in apt :P
[15:59] <wols_> Reikoku: -lpcap looks for libpcap.so, not a perl library. perl doesn't care about linkers...
[15:59] <idlemind324> hey. with a netboot install from internet do i get to pick what flavor of ubuntu i install? aka ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server?
[15:59] <wols_> ,info libpcap
[16:00] <wols_> !info libpcap
[16:00] <th0r> Reikoku: it is probably the -dev that he is lacking
[16:00] <Reikoku> th0r: Quite probably
[16:00] <wols_> it's libpcap0.8
[16:00] <tsimpson> !find libpcap.so
[16:00] <Reikoku> I only know of pcap as a perl module
[16:00] <wols_> love4linux: dpkg -l |grep libpcacp
[16:01] <wols_> edbian: I agree with you that wubi is satanspawn and should never be used
[16:01] <love4linux> in synaptic I find libpoe-componet-pcap-perl and libnet-pcap-perl... are these the correct?
[16:01] <edbian> wols_: oh it's not that bad!
[16:01] <edbian> XD
[16:01] <edbian> haha
[16:01] <C1iFF> Hi every1. Whenever I update the grub on my ubuntu i get a message that it couldn't find the splash image, but then it finishes the process as normal and even says done... However, this doesn't update the grub when I restart...HELP!
[16:01] <idlemind324> there is a libnet-pcap-perl ... that's the perl pcap you're thinking of
[16:01] <Anom01y> its me ubuntuguest
[16:02] <Anom01y> me comuter is fixed and I am still running 9.10
[16:02] <Reikoku> idlemind324: Net::pcap is the one I've used
[16:02] <Anom01y> no need to upgrade
[16:02] <Anom01y> yay
[16:02] <th0r> love4linux: it is probably libpcap-dev that you need to install
[16:02] <love4linux> wols_ : comes up with nothing
[16:02] <edbian> C1iFF: What changes are you making when you update that aren't happening at the grub menu?
[16:03] <wols_> love4linux: then you haven't installed it and hence the error message. install both the lib and the -dev package
[16:03] <Polah> Anom01y, 9.10 isn't supported. I'd advise upgrading to continue to receive security updates and such.
[16:03] <love4linux> wols_: okays
[16:03] <Reikoku> idlemind324: As a perl dev, I just instantly recognised pcap as something I've used :P
[16:03] <Anom01y> Polah, yeah Im not too worried
[16:04] <idlemind324> reikoku lol nice btw do you play eve?
[16:04] <Anom01y> Id rather have a stable system than a system that is 1% more secure
[16:04] <love4linux> wols_ : are you sure that is how it is written?
[16:04] <Reikoku> idlemind324: No, but I get asked that a lot :P
[16:04] <Anom01y> can't afford new hardware to keep up with the drivers
[16:04] <idlemind324> ya old school corp named exactly as your name
[16:04] <Reikoku> I played eve around 2003-2004
[16:04] <love4linux> cause synaptic shows libpcap-dev as installed
[16:05] <idlemind324> ps getting ubuntu installed and booting from a usb disk is becoming a pain in the arse
[16:05] <C1iFF> edbian, Well, since a long time ago it didn't even finish the update-grub command saying 'error Splash image not found' then I fixed some quotation marks that had a different font in /boot/default/grub and then this started happening
[16:05] <Reikoku> Reikoku = restless in Japanese
[16:05] <Anom01y> idlemind324, yes it is big time
[16:05] <wols_> dpkg -l will show ALL installed packages. I am sure
[16:05] <edbian> C1iFF: So what are you editing that is not producing changes?
[16:05] <david_b> i'm currently trying to read via 'screen' data from a digital scale. it uses a 'usb to rs232'-adapter and i already installed the driver for that. last time i succeeded a friend of mine helped me. with 'sudo modprobe usbserial vendor=0x0403 product=0x6001' and 'screen /dev/ttyUSB0 2400' we were able to see data coming from it. but since i reinstalled my netbook to 11.04 it's not working...
[16:05] <idlemind324> anyone got some tips?
[16:05] <david_b> ...anymore --> error 'Cannot exec /dev/ttyUSB0: no such file or directory'. anyone know how i can get it running again?
[16:05] <Anom01y> I figured out how to boot from a USB by installing EEEbntu on my wifes computer
[16:05] <Reikoku> idlemind324: dont boot from a USB, the io will kill it in days
[16:06] <anli_> Whats the cli command to list all installed packages?
[16:06] <edbian> C1iFF: I think you mean /etc/default/grub
[16:06] <love4linux> wols_: sorry my mistake.. it was installed
[16:06] <C1iFF> edbian, IDK that's what I'm wondering cause the menu.lst file is being made and all, but the GRUB list on startup doesnt change
[16:06] <Reikoku> There is precisely 1 legitimate reason to boot from USB :P and that's bitcoin mining
[16:06] <wols_> love4linux: libpcap0.8 too?
[16:06] <idlemind324> reikoku, i want to create a router replacement style device. eventually i would like to be able to load ubuntu server 10.04 lts onto a compact flash similar to how esxi is installed nowadays
[16:07] <Reikoku> Ahh
[16:07] <Reikoku> I use OpenBSD on my router
[16:07] <wols_> idlemind324: any special reason why you want ubuntu for that?
[16:07] <idlemind324> keep the platform the same
[16:07] <idlemind324> i'm ocd like that
[16:07] <Reikoku> Admittedly it does very little work because my switch (Cisco IOS) does most of the work
[16:07] <idlemind324> aye
[16:07] <edbian> C1iFF: Change the timeout to like 100 and it should be obvious that there is a change or not.  sudo update-grub of course when you're done.  What should the menu look like?  What does it look like?
[16:07] <idlemind324> well my dd-wrt is failing me
[16:08] <Reikoku> I hate building xulrunner from source :(
[16:08] <idlemind324> i have at&t uverse and wonderful company at&t sold me cheap static ip's problem is
[16:08] <idlemind324> at&t's modem only assigns 1 ip per mac address
[16:08] <love4linux> wols_: now libpcap0.8 is installed
[16:08] <idlemind324> easy way around it is create a linux router and use virtual nic's
[16:08] <Reikoku> love4linux: Try building again (assuming you built -dev too)
[16:08] <idlemind324> i could use openwrt but i need a router that is supported and i fail =/
[16:09] <love4linux> Reikoku: trying now
[16:09] <C1iFF> edbian, yeah that's the file I edited... I just want the menu to show the newest kernels I installed since months ago.. or even the 11.04 when i upgrade... I havent upgraded in fear that I might not be able to access the new kernel
[16:09] <jnsl_> hi
[16:09] <idlemind324> ps does anyone know why empathy window grows when you fill up the line install of scrolling. it's kind of annoying
[16:09] <Reikoku> idlemind324: You planning to host stuff out of your home? :P
[16:09] <edbian> idlemind324: The ISP gives an cheap static IP to the modem.  The modem gives the IP to the router.  The router does NAT.  Any normal router does NAT.  What is the issue here?  Why is dd-wrt necessary?
[16:09] <jnsl_> how can i temporary disable compiz on 11.04 ? i cant get compiz switch to work
[16:10] <idlemind324> edbian, yes i have 5 usable external ip's
[16:10] <ronqbc> how can i show hebrew in keepassx like in windows?
[16:10] <idlemind324> edbian at&t doesn't allow you to tell your inside interface hey here is my subnet listen on all them
[16:10] <edbian> C1iFF: What version are you running?  What kernels does it show?  What kernels do you want it to show?
[16:10] <MSL> hello everyone
[16:10] <MSL> I have a problem with wget
[16:10] <edbian> idlemind324: Oh that sucks
[16:10] <idlemind324> you have to use their modem and their modem only passes 1 ip down to 1 mac address at a time
[16:10] <idlemind324> ya it does but cheap is cheap right
[16:11] <Mandrake> what is the time travel ubuntu package?
[16:11] <MSL> i want to download to Specific folder
[16:11] <edbian> idlemind324: port forward?
[16:11] <love4linux> Reikoku: with sudo make -f Makefile.linux shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/650680/ . It means it is installed correctly is suppose
[16:11] <MSL> ?
[16:11] <MSL> help
[16:11] <idlemind324> edbian, their modem basically controls the ip's so you configure a "dmz" pass through and you can send some or all traffic to 1 of your internal pc's for 1 address
[16:11] <Mandrake> what is the package to invade other people mind?
[16:12] <dr_willis> MSL:  i belive the wget command has options to do that. check man wget  yet?
[16:12] <Reikoku> love4linux: You probably have to do sudo make install as well
[16:12] <idlemind324> edbian it's pretty silly but leave it up to a large isp to do some foolishness
[16:12] <edbian> idlemind324: That sucks
[16:12] <Reikoku> MSL
[16:12] <Reikoku> cd to the folder you want to download to
[16:12] <Reikoku> Then use wget :S
[16:12] <MSL> i know about -O but it download to file i want to choose folder
[16:12] <idlemind324> well i could just not be cheap
[16:12] <love4linux> Reikoku: yeah but for this stage it is okay, right?
[16:12] <C1iFF> edbian, im running 10.10 and im currently using kernel 35-25 when it says i have -30 installed on the update-grub output. Last line I edited was GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[16:12] <idlemind324> but what's the fun in that
[16:12] <Reikoku> MSL, wget downloads to the folder you use it from
[16:13] <idlemind324> ne ways ne one use empathy to chat here besides me?
[16:13] <Reikoku> cd /folder/you/want/to/download/to && wget *
[16:13] <Reikoku> I have lynx as my only working browser
[16:13] <Reikoku> -cry-
[16:13] <MSL> Trying
[16:13] <Guest63011> hello,ive made a mistake by moving a partition to where a windows partition was(now deleted) and im getting the error file missing,grub rescue, can any one help out please?
[16:13] <edbian> C1iFF: what output?  The output of sudo update-grub or the actual menu you get at boot time?
[16:14] <Anom01y> what security updates have been done since version 9.10 ?
[16:14] <Anom01y> I haven't had any problems for the last year except hardware connections
[16:14] <idlemind324> check this out. http://live.learnfree.eu/download
[16:14] <love4linux> thanks guys now it is installed correctly
[16:14] <idlemind324> LIveUSB may solve my problems =)
[16:14] <C1iFF> edbian, the output of sudo update-grub says i have 35-30 and many others after -25 installed then "updating menu.lst file" then it says done...
[16:15] <edbian> C1iFF: And if you reboot the menu shows them?
[16:15] <Reikoku> Guest63011: Do you have a recovery CD? You need to chroot your OS and reinstall grub on the correct partition
[16:16] <Reikoku> grub is still looking for its configuration on the device it used to be on
[16:16] <chrisyboy> Reikoku, i have a persistant usb if thats better also i have a cd
[16:16] <C1iFF> edbian, but before that sudo update-grub says "searching for splash image found... none found... skipping"    When I reboot, the GRUB menu doesn't show any kernels past 35-25
[16:16] <Reikoku> chrisyboy: Do you know how to chroot?
[16:16] <edbian> C1iFF: strange.  The splash image is totally unrelated.  You don't need one and it's fine that it didn't find one.
[16:17] <chrisyboy> Reikoku, no!
[16:17] <Reikoku> chrisyboy: OK, reboot into your rescue medium in command line
[16:17] <Reikoku> I'm going to assume you know which /dev entry you are using :P
[16:18] <chrisyboy> Reikoku, slight miss undestanding i have no rescue cd
[16:18] <Kre10s_> hey. I'm trying to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872 when I try to use qemu grub comes up but after that i get a black screen... any ideas?
[16:18] <C1iFF> edbian, its the only thing i could relate to the computer not using the menu.lst file in the GRUB menu... since I checked the menu file and it shows every kernel i mentioned
[16:18] <Reikoku> Any CD running the same kernel architecture as your PC will be fine
[16:18] <hunt> msg NickServ identify Komi@ICQ
[16:18] <Reikoku> i.e. Don't use a 32 bit kernel CD and a 64 bit kernel PC
[16:18] <Reikoku> That wont work
[16:18] <chrisyboy> Reikoku, so i can boot use the install cd?
[16:18] <Kre10s_> pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-rtl8139.bin"
[16:19] <Reikoku> Should be able to
[16:19] <idlemind324> here goes
[16:19] <idlemind324> LiveUSB save me =)
[16:20] <chrisyboy> Reikoku,  what do i do?
[16:21] <Reikoku> chrisyboy: PM me, this room moves too fast :P
[16:21] <s7r> is any package for ubuntu which will act as a L2TP vpn server with IPsec?
[16:21] <blackhawk> the owner/root is like the admin in windows right? how can i set myself as the owner?
[16:22] <dr_willis> blackhawk:  wyat are you trying to do exactly?
[16:22] <Polah> blackhawk: You'll be the owner of all the files you create. Using the root account generally isn't recommended
[16:22] <blackhawk> permission to mount volumes and to have the full permissions on my system
[16:23] <Polah> blackhawk: Use sudo
[16:23] <dr_willis> blackhawk:  use sudo as needed, make proper fstab entries for volumes.. is how to 'do' it.
[16:23] <dr_willis> depends on the filesystem on the volume also. :)
[16:24] <tdrusk> hi guys. working with ssh. Any way to force it to prompt me with Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? every time?
[16:24] <blackhawk> ah ok thanks,what about a ntfs volume,it is mounted but i'm wondering if it would allow me to do anything..edit,remove and all these things?
[16:24] <dr_willis> You can set where users have full access to ntfs/vfat
[16:24] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[16:24] <idlemind324> tdrusk, that is a client side thing
[16:24] <s7r> !openswan
[16:25] <blackhawk> how
[16:25] <dr_willis> blackhawk:  install/rin that ntfs-config tool i just mentioned is one way.
[16:25] <dr_willis> for automounting volumes.. for perment disks. you can make a fstab entry
[16:25] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[16:25] <idlemind324> tdrusk i think the file is /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts ... if you selected yes already you would need to delete the entry from that file
[16:25] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. one quick question.. How come I can login to root form the login screen but I can sudo bash and authenticate as root? I'm on natty
[16:25] <BoxxyBabee> sup
[16:25] <blackhawk> ok thanks willis
[16:25] <BoxxyBabee> Hai, my name is boxxy
[16:26] <tdrusk> idlemind324: i understand this. is there anyway for me to ssh $IP -(some argument) to get that?
[16:26] <idlemind324> wh1zz0 do you mean you can't login as root?
[16:26] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. one quick question.. How come I CAN'T** login to root form the login screen but I can sudo bash and authenticate as root? I'm on natty
[16:26] <dr_willis> wh1zz0:  i think you missed a can/cant/ :) somewhere
[16:26] <wh1zz0> Yeah thanks
[16:26] <wh1zz0> Lol
[16:26] <wh1zz0> Yeah..
[16:26] <dr_willis> wh1zz0:  you dont want to be directly logging into X as root.. big security risk.
[16:26] <dr_willis> and GDM specifically denys root.
[16:26] <BoxxyBabee> what is linux?
[16:26] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[16:26] <dr_willis> !linux | BoxxyBabee
[16:26] <Polah> wh1zz0: There is no root password. Sudo does not make you root, it just grants elevated privileges temporarily.
[16:26] <idlemind324> wh1zz0 root login to gui is disabled by default
[16:26] <AlanKey> yes loging as rute is not recomeded
[16:27] <BoxxyBabee> ok. im new to linux
[16:27] <BoxxyBabee> thats why i asked
[16:27] <wh1zz0> But even when I press ctrl+alt+ f1 and go into ttyl mode I still cant get into root
[16:27] <lighta> hi guys, i'm trying to use screen and screen -x to do collaborate work witha friend but windows is quite short. Is there a way that screen can go up as tty ? Hope I'm understandable
[16:27] <Polah> wh1zz0: Correct. There is no root password for  you to log on with.
[16:27] <BoxxyBabee> but i still prefer the convenience of my mac
[16:27] <AlanKey> Boxxy, look around but i think you will find that ubuntu offers the most useful OS
[16:27] <dr_willis> wh1zz0:  you dont directly login as root.. login as user. use sudo as needed
[16:27]  * dr_willis perfers the cheapness of Ubuntu
[16:28] <wh1zz0> Okie..
[16:28] <wh1zz0> I see
[16:28] <blackhawk> now for the biggest problem which i still can't find a solution for it,my internet connection is unstable,i'm connected but it cuts of every now and then then comes back on it's own,the driver is installed and i'm working perfectly when i'm on windows so i know it's not the isp,can't live without the internet so i really need a solution or i would just uninstall the os :(
[16:28] <wh1zz0> I always wondered
[16:28] <dr_willis> and use sudo -i, not sudo bash
[16:28] <BoxxyBabee> i dont mind ubuntu, but its time consuming for people who are new to it.
[16:28] <wh1zz0> So it's something like UAC in windows right?
[16:28] <dr_willis> BoxxyBabee:  learning a mac would be time consuming to people who are new to it also... same for every OS out there.
[16:28] <BoxxyBabee> not that bad
[16:28] <Polah> wh1zz0: Except more effective at privilege control.
[16:28] <wh1zz0> :D
[16:28] <AlanKey> @b
[16:28] <BoxxyBabee> i guess i learnt quick
[16:29] <wh1zz0> Polah: Right.. thanks guys
[16:29] <AlanKey> @blackhawk have to checkd the problem is not physical?
[16:29] <blackhawk> like the wire?
[16:29] <AlanKey> and the ISP
[16:29] <BoxxyBabee> hey, alan key, thats *NOT* a fake name
[16:29] <C1iFF> can anybody guess why update-grub would finish well but not update my GRUB list on startup??
[16:29] <blackhawk> it works perfectly on windows so it would have the same problem in it i guess
[16:29] <AlanKey> what type of internet do you have?
[16:29] <MSL> working,and more one question,how can i use "random"  in gcc.. i want to put random number between two numbers
[16:30] <blackhawk> home dsl
[16:30] <blackhawk> speedtouch router
[16:30] <BoxxyBabee> I still use dial up because I ROCK
[16:30] <blackhawk> built in lan
[16:30] <AlanKey> yes that is a possibilty, is the pc connected the same way as the linux box??
[16:30] <blackhawk> gigabyte motherboard
[16:30] <Guest51237> whats a linux box?
[16:30] <ZykoticK9> C1iFF, do you have more then one gnu/linux installed?  like dual-boot sorta thing?
[16:30] <AlanKey> ok so with an ethernet cable?
[16:30] <BoxxyBabee> Alan, what do I do if I still use dial up
[16:30] <dr_willis> Guest51237:  a computer running linux....
[16:30] <jefelex> windows sucks
[16:30] <blackhawk> yea ethernet
[16:30] <BoxxyBabee> OS X FTW
[16:30] <Guest51237> oh thanks
[16:30] <jefelex> dialup does rock though!
[16:31] <Guest51237> i use windows 2000
[16:31] <BoxxyBabee> IKR. Dial up FTW
[16:31] <Guest51237> i dont even know whyy i am here
[16:31] <J3D3> is it possible to use two seperate wifi cards to access a single network simultaniously with then having a conflict?
[16:31] <AlanKey> have you tried reistalling the driver?
[16:31] <J3D3> without*
[16:31] <szal> Guest51237: your fault if you use a dead OS
[16:31] <blackhawk> how? alankey?
[16:31] <JeremyFock> hello
[16:31] <blackhawk> alankey: how
[16:31] <BoxxyBabee> hey jezza?
[16:31] <JeremyFock> heyy
[16:32] <BoxxyBabee> Windows 2000, the FASTEST OS…………………………… IN THE WORLD
[16:32] <AlanKey> im not sure off the top of my head but im sure there is an anserwer on the internet, google is your friend
[16:32] <JeremyFock> i dont know a google?
[16:32] <dr_willis> BoxxyBabee:  do you have an actual Ubuntu support question?
[16:32] <BoxxyBabee> I personally prefer BING, because it's not google
[16:32] <Polah> J3D3: I can't help you do it, but what you're looking for is called channel bonding. You might get some better answers if you ask people about that or search around using it as a term
[16:32] <JeremyFock> i use ask.com
[16:32] <jefelex> box - get off here - this is an ubuntu forum
[16:32] <Guest51237> meow
[16:32] <J3D3> ty
[16:33] <jefelex> windows is complete shit
[16:33] <BoxxyBabee> @dr_willis uhm, I just wanna learn more
[16:33] <AlanKey> yes
[16:33] <AlanKey> please keep to the topic
[16:33] <AlanKey> what qustions do you have?
[16:33] <blackhawk> yea i did alot of googling,actually i don't mind searching and taking time to learn but i still can't find the answer of a day of searching,do i have to get a wifi card?
[16:33] <terry> JeremyFock: Try google
[16:34] <BoxxyBabee> hey, I thought Linux was about freedom of speech, so why you guys telling me to get outta here?
[16:34] <JeremyFock> @terry can't i use yahoo
[16:34] <AlanKey> i would try and establish the problem before buying anything
[16:34] <AlanKey> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:34] <BoxxyBabee> 11.0.x
[16:34] <JeremyFock> @alankey 9?
[16:34] <blackhawk> ok i will try again,that's what i was thinking too,i don't want to buy then find it's another thing not the card
[16:34] <dr_willis> BoxxyBabee:  this is a support room..  if you want to sit and watch fine.. we dont care about  Non support related comments.
[16:34] <BoxxyBabee> It's about freedom of speech
[16:35] <terry> JeremyFock: Sorry.  Never mind.
[16:35] <AlanKey> yes thas the GNU
[16:35] <LjL> BoxxyBabee: no it's not. this is about support. please keep it about support.
[16:35] <dr_willis> BoxxyBabee:  if you want to chit chat. see #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[16:35] <AlanKey> yes boxxy#
[16:35] <AlanKey> please dont clutter the chat
[16:35] <BoxxyBabee> Wow, that's it, gang up on me
[16:35] <JeremyFock> yeah boxxy
[16:35] <dr_willis> BoxxyBabee:  aparently you cant understand the point of a 'support channel'
[16:35] <BoxxyBabee> Clearly I do.
[16:35] <terry> BoxxyBabee: They are trying to help you.
[16:35] <compdoc> BoxxyBabee, Windows 2000 was a nice OS at one time - now its too old to even protect itself from bad internet sites.
[16:35] <LjL> ok, end of discussion, back to support
[16:36] <wdp> LjL, right. so youre helping me now.
[16:36] <blackhawk> can i change when i click on the mail icon on the top menu and click on mail to make it open thunderbird instead of the default one?
[16:36] <wdp> LjL, :p
[16:36] <LjL> wdp: maybe. what is the issue?
[16:36] <AlanKey> not too sure... the defualt one is still ok
[16:36] <BoxxyBabee> why don't you experiment? that's generally how you learn
[16:37] <BoxxyBabee> Has anyone managed to get linux to dual boot on a mac
[16:37] <blackhawk> i changed to thunderbird as the default mail app but it still opens the old one,i was just quite used to it when i was using OSX
[16:37] <dr_willis> !mac
[16:38] <BoxxyBabee> I have tried this, but it seemed to break when I upgraded to lion
[16:38] <share> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451764
[16:38] <share> why I can see this?
[16:38] <AlanKey> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:39] <BoxxyBabee> me? the newest version
[16:39] <wdp> LjL, ati. What else? *scnr* Well. My mom always had issues with another operating system so i wanted to install her an ubuntu. my first try was kubuntu, now i'm at ubuntu. Everything is fine at that ubuntu except for one thing. The graphiccard flickers at some specific actions. When logging in and the ubuntu screen appears this happens a few times. as soon as the desktop is loaded it ended. When the screensaver starts its happening once (just one small f
[16:39] <wdp> licker) when i start a sound in rythmbox or how thats called and its starting the visualisation it happens once again. This flickering, annoys me. I was trying various things. my own xorg.conf (im sure DisplayPriority would solve this behavior but it seems thats not working with kms) no xorg.conf, trying to switch from ati kms to ati fglrx (the graphiccard is too old for that)
[16:39] <wdp> LjL, x1200 series (r300).
[16:40] <wdp> LjL, i also tried various versions of ubuntu, started with LTS, upgraded to 10.10, upgrades to the latest. none of them fixes it. I also saw various bug reports about that - Disabling compiz didnt help.
[16:40] <wdp> LjL, and.. it doesnt happen when i type in glxgears, so its not only related to opengl, i guess glxgears is opengl, isn't it?
[16:40] <AlanKey> wdp, that could indecate a hardware problem, i would ensure the drivers are up to date
[16:40] <terry> share: Looks like an obsolete page has been removed.
[16:40] <share> k
[16:41] <ZykoticK9> wdp, glxgears is opengl yes
[16:41] <C1iFF> ZykoticK9, dual-boot with windows but only one linux version installed
[16:41] <wdp> AlanKey, as it's ati kms, and as i already tried a kernel update and this didnt solve the issue AND keeping in mind its a old graphiccard i dont think thats the issue; the only thing which might cause that (hardware trouble) is that it's shared graphiccard (onboard) - The weird thing is, it happens with screensaver, logon, logout, rythmbox visualization, but NOT with glxgears.
[16:41] <TBotNik> All: Good morning again!  Still working on my networking problem.  Have write up at :  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11077394#post11077394  or consult your log from chat. :)
[16:41] <wdp> also, no errors in xorg.log apart from that it couldn't find /var/run/acpid socket or something. no errors in dmesg neither.
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[16:41] <ZykoticK9> C1iFF, ok just checking for the low hanging fruit ;)  best of luck.
[16:41] <robin0800> wdp, I guess your using the galium driver which still has a few problems
[16:41] <BoxxyBabee> right, I have a question, Linux cannot find my ATI 6990, what can I do?
[16:42] <wdp> robin0800, nope. that was my last try. and that didnt helped neither. the flickering reduced tho.
[16:42] <xangua> k-line :O
[16:42] <wdp> s/helped/help
[16:42] <sysdoc> k-line, schweet...:)
[16:42] <wdp> i really tried EVERYTHING yet and im running out of ideas :>
[16:42] <wdp> so.. apart from buying a new graphiccard, any ideas? :)
[16:42] <dr_willis> ati - 'still not quite there' :(
[16:43] <robin0800> wdp, what does glxinfo say ?
[16:43] <LjL> wdp: no clue myself, seems you have already tried what i would
[16:43] <dr_willis> given how good of video cards ive seen for $50..
[16:43] <wdp> robin0800, with LTS it was direct rendering yes and not galium, also NOT software rasterizer. with my latest try it says galium and direct rendering yes.
[16:44] <wdp> robin0800, i might have the output of glxinfo of the LTS where the flickering also occured. if you gimme a sec to search it.
[16:44] <terry> TBotNik: See my pm
[16:44] <wdp> http://pastie.org/2254112 @ robin0800
[16:44] <robin0800> wdp, I think given the age of the card those are your only choices
 follow this to the last dot. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[16:45] <dr_willis> kural:   i got no web browser on ths box.. so cant read it. :)
[16:45] <wdp> robin0800, so, time to give up? :/
[16:46] <wonderwal> any guide i can use to recompile kernel on ubuntu 10.10? im used to kernel compiles, but havent done it on ubuntu, was wondering if there's an ubuntu way?
[16:46] <dr_willis> !kernel | wonderwal
 wget & html2text. nano/vi
[16:46] <dr_willis> why are you needing to compile the kernel wonderwal ?
[16:46] <robin0800> wdp, as people have said buy a new card
[16:47] <wdp> robin0800, people haven't said so. That's the next step I would do, if theres no fix :)
[16:47] <wonderwal> dr_willis: to adjust an ipvs setting . http://kb.linuxvirtualserver.org/wiki/Performance_and_Tuning .  IPVS connection table size
 also i compiled the latest kernel.
[16:47] <wdp> LjL, hehe, thx anyway tho :)
 better option would be debian/squeeze
[16:47] <wonderwal> dr_willis: do you give me permission to continue? ;-)
[16:48] <dr_willis> wonderwal:  You got the url/guide.. go for it.. ive never mssed with ipvs's
[16:48] <dr_willis> wonderwal:  but watch out for old guides..
[16:48] <kural> has anybody managed xen-4.1.1 & latest kernel ?
[16:48] <kural> on natty
[16:49] <wdp> i guess here are no xorg/radeon developers or? :)
[16:49] <wonderwal> dr_willis: okay,  i'll follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile , this will work with 10.10 server?
[16:49] <dr_willis> wonderwal:  no idea.  ;) not need to compile a kernel since i gave up on gentoo
[16:51] <Technicus_> Hello . . . I was checking out Backtrack and noticed the slick verbose boot screen and was wondering how to configure Ubuntu to do that.  Or how do I just simply configure it to boot with verbose mode?
[16:51] <knapper_tech> i have an executible that keeps getting an incompatible .so sent to it.    the issue is related to paths, and i've configured /etc/ld.conf not to  included the offending location (/usr/local/lib)
[16:51] <dr_willis> Technicus_:  kernel takes a 'noquiet nosplash verbose' option i recall
[16:51] <kierge> when will the intel hd4000 driver improve to the point where there is no lockups on natty ?
[16:51] <knapper_tech> is there another place that this can be defined in ubuntu?
[16:52] <knapper_tech> the nvidia driver from the edge repository is working thankfully
[16:52] <kierge> dr_willis, thank you
[16:53] <Technicus_> dr_willis:  I am under the impression that is a GRUB setting correct?  How can I manipulate the GRUB settings while being booted into the OS?
[16:54] <dr_willis> you edit the /etc/default/grub file to do what optuions you want, and rerun update-grub
[16:54] <dr_willis> see grub2 guides for details.
[16:54] <dr_willis> !grub2
[16:54] <kierge> Technicus_, sudo nano /etc/default/grub   then edit the proper line with splash quiet etc then save then sudo update-grub2
[16:55] <knapper_tech> does ubuntu have executible linker paths defined in places other than /etc/ld.conf?
[16:56] <Jff55> what type of encryption does ubuntu use to encrypt /home when installing?
[16:57] <Technicus_> dr_willis:  Thanks for the Muggs!
[16:58] <AirandSea> I have no window decoration or panel decoration in gnome. Im using Natty and i all i did was change theme and remove then reinserted the RAM. Since the RAM doesnt seem to affect anything else im leaning towards an issue with the theme engine or some other daemon. Any suggestions ?
[16:58] <Mandrake> none for the moment
[16:58] <dr_willis> AirandSea:  try alt-f2 and run 'compiz --replace' or 'metacity --replace' the wm may have crashed for some reason
 try running gconf-cleaner, if reboot does not help.
[16:59] <vk4akp_> Hi, Can anyone tell me how to remove the Nigerian Scam modules from the latest Ubuntu Distro? :/
[17:00] <wdp> oh
[17:00] <wdp> i might have found the issue
[17:06] <zykotick9> vk4akp_, what in the world are you talking about?
[17:06] <AirandSea> dr_willis: That left me with windows that i couldnt type text into "metacity --replace". Rebooted and still the same issue.
[17:06] <AirandSea> dr_willis: Can i check the ram from grub somehow ?
[17:07] <wdp> omg. aetas LjL i solved the ati issue
[17:07] <blackhawk> can someone tell me where can i get a firefox "4" version
[17:07] <share> blackhawk: .deb ?
[17:07] <dr_willis> theres ppa's with differnt versions i recall blackhawk
[17:07] <dr_willis> !firefox
[17:07] <blackhawk> yea share
[17:07] <AirandSea> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] (rev a1) ... Maybe a Nouveau issue ?
[17:08] <lighta> hi guys, i'm trying to use screen and screen -x to do collaborate work witha friend but windows is quite short. Is there a way that screen can go up as tty ? Hope I'm understandable
[17:08] <dr_willis> AirandSea:  boot a live cd and use the memtest option? or from, the grub menu
[17:08] <blackhawk> well i want it to play quakelive which is not playable on 5
[17:08] <chrnovx> Hi. i restarted my computer and for some odd reason, my raid 5 (via mdadm) started rebuilding.  Should I be concerned?
[17:08] <blackhawk> sry,"ppa"?
[17:08] <zykotick9> blackhawk, FYI firefox 4 is no longer supported - 5 is.
[17:09] <share> blackhawk: I think you can only get as tar.gz file
[17:09] <dr_willis> blackhawk:  you may want to just get the ff4 tar.gz file and keep it in the users home dir.
[17:09] <share> or using a PPA
[17:09] <dr_willis> weid that quakelive dosnt do ff5 yet.
[17:09] <share>  and grab .deb with synaptic
[17:09] <blackhawk> how to install the tar.gz?
[17:09] <share> blackhawk: you download extract it and read the README
[17:09] <share> it explains
[17:10] <AirandSea> dr_willis: Alright. Im using the nouveau driver. Maybe its an update to my recently upgraded to Natty that is the issue. Because it worked fine before in Natty.
[17:10] <wdp> aetas, LjL: the "flickering" is caused by querying the "outputs" for settings; i.e. reproducable by issuing "xrandr" at the terminal. that'll cause the screen to flicker. You can disable that behaviour by using `xrandr --output <output> --set "load detection" 0` in my case, this was disabled for VGA-0 alrady; but it wasn't disabled for S-video. doing that for s-video will stop the flickering.
[17:10] <AirandSea> Running live cd with memtest... bbl
[17:10] <LjL> wdp: interesting
[17:10] <wdp> LjL, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/410401
[17:10] <wdp> found out by reading there.
[17:11] <blackhawk> share: For information about installing, running and configuring Firefox
[17:11] <blackhawk> including a list of known issues and troubleshooting information,
[17:11] <blackhawk> refer to: http://getfirefox.com/releases/       that is what it says,the file and the link has no instructions
[17:11] <dr_willis> is the file a tar.gz ?
[17:11] <blackhawk> yes
[17:12] <dr_willis> extacct it to some dir.. run the binary..
[17:12] <blackhawk> sorry,sorry,it's tar.bz2
[17:12] <dr_willis> extact it.. run the binary..
[17:12] <blackhawk> ok will try
[17:12] <dr_willis> ive herd of some issues with running differnt versions of FF. affecting the users profiles/settings
[17:12] <elijah> What command can I use to find out if and where phpmyadmin is installed?
[17:13] <llutz> elijah: apt-cache policy phpmyadmin
[17:13] <blackhawk> what is the application i should choose for excutable files?
[17:13] <llutz> elijah:if installed, dpkg -L  phpmyadmin
[17:13] <blackhawk> to run the .bin
[17:14] <orsula> hi, does anyone know where is a SMB share mounted? I can connect and view in Nautilus, but can't see it mounted anywhere. tnx
[17:14] <Abhijit> elijah, http://localhost/phpmyadmin in browser
[17:14] <mafi> HI! How can i write a com port output into a file?
[17:14] <milen8204> I have a bit problem whit my Skype, when I close it , it says online like process but I have no access to it
[17:14] <elijah> llutz: Thanks, both of those worked and gave me the correct path too. Do you know if I have to configure Apache to tell it where it is? localhost/phpmyadmin gives me nothing.
 what app should i choose to run the .bin file
[17:15] <llutz> elijah:  i neither use apache, nor phpmyadmin.
[17:15] <milen8204> when I click on it`s Icon the massage appears which says there is all ready working copy
[17:15] <xangua> blackhawk: double clic with your mouse
[17:16] <matteo_> How can I enter in ubuntu italian channel?
[17:16] <share> blackhawk: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
[17:16] <share> hf
[17:16] <xangua> !it > matteo_
[17:16] <matteo_> thanks
[17:16] <matteo_> !it
[17:17] <dr_willis> blackhawk:  there should be a executable file you run. or some startfirefox script.
 "dpkg -l | grep -i phpmyadmin" or dlocate -S phpmyadmin
[17:21] <elijah> kural: I found it, thanks, I had to add a line to the apache.conf file
[17:22] <pietr101> hello, can someone pls tell me if this harddrive is faulty, or not? http://pastebin.com/RFKkivzX
[17:22] <Ray2> I have two copies of Ubuntu 10.04..I want to uninstall one of them..How do I do this and not lose grub 2 ??
 :)
[17:23] <Lasers> pietr101: Looks like it?
[17:23] <_3vi1_> Delete the partition, then run update-grub from the other install?
[17:23] <Lasers> pietr101: Either it's faulty or it's failing from long time usage.
[17:23] <pietr101> Lasers: yes, it looks faulty to me
[17:24] <Ray2> _3vil
[17:24] <zykotick9> Ray2, which ever you installed will be controlling Grub (by default)
[17:24] <zykotick9> s/installed/installed second/
[17:24] <_3vi1_> s/installed/\1 second/
[17:25] <_3vi1_> doh.. \&, or put in some parens.
[17:25] <_3vi1_> haha
[17:25] <pietr101> Lasers: how could it be failing from long time usage and not be faulty?
[17:25] <Ray2> zykotick9: The one on sda seems to be controlling since the last update of grub..the other one is on sdb
[17:26] <Lasers> pietr101: All hard drives fails. It's the fact of life.
[17:26] <zykotick9> Ray2, only grub-install will determine which is in control - but you can always reinstall grub from a livecd if required - so not a huge deal.
[17:26] <pietr101> Lasers:  yes, but that means , that they become faulty :D no?
[17:27] <Lasers> pietr101: Faulty -- When you buy a new hard drive and it isn't working properly -- It's faulty.
[17:27] <Ray2> zyko
[17:27] <Ray2> zykotick9: Thanks for the help
[17:27] <jarot>  /msg nickserv register jarotjuga darojat_k@yahoo.com
 take a lots of advice before you decide to act.
[17:27] <zykotick9> Ray2, good luck :)
[17:28] <pietr101> Lasers: true
[17:28] <_3vi1_> Ray2:  And, back everything up first!
[17:28] <Lasers> jarot: I love your password. It's so simple.
[17:28] <jarot> :))
[17:28] <_3vi1_> ROFL
[17:28] <Lasers> (It's not identify). D'oh.
[17:30] <Ray2> _3vi1_: All non losable info backed up to second computer so should be okay
[17:31] <_3vi1_> Ray2:  Good deal.  As long as you have a liveCD for problems, have fun with the adventure!
[17:32] <Ray2> _3vi1_: Yes I have a good live cd
[17:32] <dvdr> ive got a usb wireless usb adaptor (awuso36h), works ok in ubuntu but I can't get it to run in a linux virtual machine (under virtualbox). The wireless adaptor is detected, it shows available networks etc but when I try to connect to a wpa2 secured network it reports "bad password". The exact same settings work in the host (ubuntu) machine. Any ideas? The driver is the same for both cases (rtl8187)
[17:32] <boywonder> Reikoku, im up
[17:32] <vk4akp_> Can anyone tell me where I can FTP the White version of Ubuntu please?
[17:32] <Reikoku> boywonder: ?
[17:33] <xangua> vk4akp_: white version of ubuntu¿
[17:33] <Reikoku> boywonder: Do I deserve a beer yet? :P
[17:33] <vk4akp_> xangua << Yes. For Western PC's. No Niggar App's etc?
[17:33] <_3vi1_> @dvdr: Sounds like a VirtualBox bug. Not all USB devices work in passthru with it. I suggest filing a bug report over in their database and asking in their forums.
[17:33] <th0r> dvdr: the internet connection in virtualbox isn't usually done like that. the ethernet connection in the vm bridges through the host to the internet
[17:33] <boywonder> Reikoku,you have saved my life
[17:33] <ronald_> hola
[17:33] <Reikoku> boywonder: Have fun
[17:33] <xangua> vk4akp_: ubuntu.com , and drop that attitude
[17:34] <boywonder> can i ask what you did, becuase the whole grub2 thing confused me?
[17:34] <Reikoku> boywonder: In case you wonder what we did, we used chroot to jail ourselves inside your install, reinstalled grub and set the bootable flag on
[17:34] <edbian> Is there an easy way to print 25 text documents all in the same dir?
[17:34] <dvdr> _3vi1_:ok what more can I do to confirm that? Im wondering if ive done something wrong...
[17:34] <boywonder> Reikoku,  is the window still open?
[17:34] <Python> Hi ed1703
[17:34] <Python> oops
[17:34] <Reikoku> I installed the wrong version of grub first time, boywonder, so we had to put grub2 back on and reconfigure it
[17:34] <Python> Hi edbian
[17:34] <edbian> Python: hello
[17:34] <blackhawk> description: Ethernet interface
[17:34] <blackhawk>        product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[17:34] <blackhawk>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[17:34] <blackhawk>        physical id: 0
[17:34] <blackhawk>        bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0
[17:34] <blackhawk>        logical name: eth0
[17:34] <Reikoku> boywonder: Yes, but I can't copy paste :P
[17:35] <vk4akp_> xangua  << But does the White version still have the Nigerian Root-Kit installed? Because I don't want that. :(
[17:35] <FloodBot1> blackhawk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:35] <Python> !pastebin
[17:35] <xangua> vk4akp_: stop that
[17:35] <Reikoku> boywonder: I'm currently stuck in a tty without X ^^
[17:36] <luckysmack_> is there a good desktop/gui firewall app for managing iptables. can anyone recommend one?
[17:36] <vk4akp_> xangua  <<< Yes they should stop that. It's bad to distribute a distro with built in Sam Botnet deployment.
[17:36] <boywonder> Reikoku, lol hey but thanks abunch i have alot of stuff on this box that i couldnt afford re set up
[17:36] <th0r> luckysmack_: ufw and firestarter?
[17:36] <terry> luckysmack_: firestarter
[17:36] <th0r> !ops vk4akp_
[17:36] <terry> !firestarter | luckysmack_
[17:36] <Reikoku> boywonder: Fair enough, make sure to back up often :P
[17:37]  * boywonder Reikoku  is now my hero(god like)
[17:37] <Reikoku> boywonder: I think there's a way to find out all the packages you have installed and throw them in a list so if everything all dies, you can reinstall your whole userspace with one command
[17:38] <th0r> boywonder: you might also want to look at aptoncd
[17:39] <qin> !clone | boywonder
 do you understand iptables well enough ?
[17:39] <nit-wit> for saving and reinstalling all install.  dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[17:39] <nit-wit> And if you wanted to use the list to reinstall this software on a fresh ubuntu setup,
[17:39] <nit-wit> Code:
[17:39] <nit-wit> dpkg --set-selections < installed-software
[17:39] <nit-wit> followed by
[17:39] <FloodBot1> nit-wit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <nit-wit> Code:
[17:40] <blackhawk> how to reinstall a driver,a builtin lan driver?
[17:40] <jrib> blackhawk: reinstalling rarely solves anything; it's better to just state your actual issue
[17:40] <nit-wit> sorry for the flood
[17:40] <terry> blackhawk: lspci
[17:41] <schao> exit
[17:41] <terry> blackhawk: (What is the make and model of  your wireless NIC?)
  name or make of the inbuilt interface would help
[17:41] <blackhawk> product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[17:42] <blackhawk> here you are
[17:42] <terry> blackhawk: iwconfig |pastebinit
[17:42] <terry> blackhawk: That's not it.
[17:42] <luckysmack_> kural, i understand them ok. not real well though.
[17:42] <terry> blackhawk: What is the make and model of your wireless NIC, (as reported by lspci)
[17:43] <terry> blackhawk: lspci | pastebinit
[17:43] <terry> blackhawk: ... and send resulting URL
[17:43] <blackhawk> ok 1 sec
[17:44] <luckysmack_> kural, i have a webserver i have custom IP tables setup on to only allow the right ports of 80 and 443 and 22 for ssh and block everything else. but i sometimes reference online articles to modify them.
[17:44] <blackhawk> pastebinit is not installed yet :/
[17:44] <AirandSea> dr_willis: Ram was ok. Surprisingly everything looks ok now. Very odd :)
[17:44]  * _3vi1_ just learned about pastebinit.  +1!
[17:44] <terry> luckysmack_: good advice, especially ssh.  Why don't you just use ftp?
[17:45] <terry> blackhawk: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:45] <_3vi1_> Yeah... just did.
[17:45] <terry> luckysmack_: Do you really need port 22 open to outside?
 okay , sorry if i offended you with my question. that was not my idea
[17:46] <luckysmack_> terry, u typically just use ssh/sftp to transfer files.
[17:46] <luckysmack_> huh?
[17:46] <qin> luckysmack_: How you transfer files then?
[17:47] <terry> luckysmack_: You tipically use ftp to transfer files.
[17:47] <_3vi1_> fish://
[17:47] <qin> terry: Really?
[17:47] <terry> qin: Yes
[17:47] <blackhawk> terry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650734/
[17:47] <luckysmack_> i usually use ssh
[17:47] <AirandSea> luckysmack_: FTPES is the best encryption.
[17:47] <terry> luckysmack_: From outside?
[17:47] <qin> terry: No, scp ssh
[17:47] <luckysmack_> yea
[17:47] <terry> luckysmack_: Not a good idea.
[17:47] <terry> at all
[17:48] <blackhawk> terry: is that what you wanted?
[17:48] <luckysmack_> whys that?
[17:48] <terry> But that's up to you.  It is your server.
[17:48] <AirandSea> PRoFTPD with GAdmin-PRoFTPD is nice.
[17:48] <qin> terry: Why not?
[17:48] <terry> qin: Security
[17:48] <luckysmack_> well no, i use ssh, but in order to access any of my machines in the first place you need an ssh key.
[17:48] <qin> terry: of ssh?
[17:49] <tomodachi> qin: ftp is a crappy protocol. Messy to get through firewalls. and not encrypted
[17:49] <samsul> hy there... what is the command to see how big our file?
[17:49] <qin> tomodachi: This what I am saying
[17:49] <luckysmack_> i use keys for everything so without it youre denied access
[17:49] <terry> luckysmack_: Well, what is your question?
[17:49] <tomodachi> qin:  thought you were aksing :) srry
[17:49] <AirandSea> tomodachi: Bullswaggles. ITs as secure as ssh if you use encryption on both channels.
[17:49] <terry> luckysmack_: How can we help you?
[17:50] <tomodachi> AirandSea: well thats not "default" in ftp
[17:50] <qin> tomodachi: terry's idea puzzled me
[17:50] <tomodachi> ftp is not encrypted
[17:50] <tomodachi> ftps is
[17:50] <luckysmack_> i was wondering if there are any good GUI apps to manage your firewall/iptables on natty.
[17:50] <qin> !ufw
[17:50] <_3vi1_> samsul:  You mean ls -l ?
[17:50] <luckysmack_> yea i dont use ftp. i use ftps/ssh
[17:51] <qin> luckysmack_: ^^
[17:51] <AirandSea> tomodachi: Well, most things cant be considered secure without knowledge or skills.
[17:51] <luckysmack_> qin, saw thanks
[17:51] <AirandSea> tomodachi: Take a car for instance. Theres a reson we dont put children infront of steeringwheels :)
[17:51] <terry> blackhawk: What type of wireless device are you using?  (I do not see it listed in the output of lspci.)
[17:51] <qin> luckysmack_: Good habit for ssh is to use fail2ban or maybe different port than 22.
[17:52] <oCean> luckysmack_: tomodachi you probably mean sftp?
[17:52]  * pfifo throws his 2 cents in, rsync + ssh is easier and much more secure than FTP, of course, thats speaking form the experience ive had copying foles between 2 linux machines
[17:52] <_3vi1_> AirandSea:  Go carts = Windows?
[17:52] <tomodachi> luckysmack_: or just use keybased quth instead of password based
[17:52] <blackhawk> terry: you mean the router? it's a speedtouch
[17:52] <qin> lollo64it: Or if you really concerned knockd
[17:52] <luckysmack_> qin, yea my webserver uses fail2ban. i dont locally.
[17:52] <luckysmack_> tomodachi, yea keys are what i use.
[17:53] <tomodachi> oCean: luckysmack_  no ftp eith encryption is ftps
[17:53] <AirandSea> pfifo: Good, but not as updated repositores generally. Unless you can sync gigabytes per second ;)
[17:53] <tomodachi> oCean: luckysmack_ sftp is not ftp with security
[17:53] <pfifo> AirandSea, rsync is exponentially faster than FTP
[17:53] <oCean> tomodachi: sftp is the command for using ssh, I have no binary ftps, not in any package I searched
[17:53] <terry> blackhawk: Your original question was about a built in wireless device.  Right?
[17:54] <AirandSea> _3vi1_: HAha, good one :) But at 10-15 years old they can learn how to press a  few buttons on the keyboard or mouse as well. Maybe enough to make a secure connection :)
[17:54] <luckysmack_> tomodachi, yea i know. i normally use ssh for file transfering.
[17:54]  * pfifo gives dr_willis an oatmeal cream pie
[17:54] <terry> luckysmack_: Do you mean scp?   (You said ssh.)
[17:55] <AirandSea> pfifo: Yeah, rsync deserved more usage, so i made a gui for it :)
[17:55] <Lasers> I have a question about those installing Ubuntu on Macbooks -- Apple button replacing Windows button?
[17:55] <luckysmack_> terry, oh yes. my bad. i use scp to transfer files.
[17:55] <blackhawk> terry: not it;s about a built in ethernet that's unstable although connected,and it;s working fine on windows
[17:55] <terry> blackhawk: Oh, sorry.  So what is it doing?  (or not doing?)
[17:56] <terry> blackhawk: Describe the situation.
[17:56] <terry> blackhawk: Do you have it set to dhcp?
[17:57] <AirandSea> pfifo: tried gadmin-rsync ?
[17:57] <samsul> somebody tell me, what is the command to show size of a directory?
[17:57] <blackhawk> terry: well,my internet is unstable although the cable is connected and fine and the router is fine,when i open a web page or even chatting here on irc it stops suddenly and then gets back after a min or few seconds
[17:57] <AirandSea> df .
[17:58] <terry> samsul: du -s  /dir/
[17:58] <blackhawk> terry: it\s set on automatic
[17:58] <luckysmack_> thanks for the input guys
[17:58] <pfifo> AirandSea, im a cli only type of guy
[17:58] <AirandSea> Woops: "du -h ."
[17:58] <samsul> thanks terry
[17:58] <terry> samsul: du -S  /dir/
[17:58] <terry> sorry
[17:59] <ciunix> hi all
[17:59] <ciunix> who can help me installing git?
[17:59] <terry> samsul: Or    du -Sh  /home/samsul/Documents
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> ciunix, I can help
[17:59] <AirandSea> pfifo: I like both, but i like to do "trivial tasks" :) ... such as setting up servers via gui's
[17:59] <ciunix> well can you help me step by step?
[17:59] <ritzz> hi everyone im trying to figure this one out for long now when i mount a file or drive with truecrypt and cryptkeeper the file or drive appears on the desktop but also it's aviable to other accounts besides admin account (family and guest accounts) how can i set access only to admin account ?
[17:59] <Captainkrtek> ciunix, sure
[18:00] <samsul> okay, i'll try all
[18:00] <ciunix> usually I use cvs
[18:00] <Captainkrtek> ciunix, first open a terminal and enter: sudo apt-get install git-core
[18:00] <ciunix> ok
[18:00] <AirandSea> pfifo: Do you also like making dists from sources ?
[18:00] <ciunix> done
[18:00] <ciunix> I did it before
[18:00] <Captainkrtek> k
[18:00] <pfifo> AirandSea, pm me were too off topic
[18:00] <terry> blackhawk: cat /etc/resolv.conf    #See if the nameserver(s) are correct.
[18:01] <AirandSea> Noted
[18:02] <blackhawk> terry: yes it is the same as the one i know and see on windows and mac osx i use
[18:02] <samsul> du -s /dir more better for me..
[18:02] <terry> blackhawk: ifconfig -a    #Look at that and see if you see anything out of the ordinary.
[18:03] <_3vi1_> Try du -sh .
[18:04] <blackhawk> terry: i don't understand anything from what has just came up,shall i paste a link for ya?
[18:06] <coz_>  have to break for a bit , be back later
[18:11] <roboroyy> test
[18:11] <roboroyy> hallo\
[18:12] <chinmaya_n>  I recently migrated to debian. But I love the ubuntu font that is used for applications and in terminal! What are those fonts? I want them in debain as it is weird here
[18:12] <ritzz> no one?
[18:12] <roboroyy> ?
[18:13] <Abhijit> chinmaya_n, http://font.ubuntu.com/
[18:13] <ThinkT510> !font | chinmaya_n
[18:13] <TrD> Monospace chinmaya_n
[18:13] <samsul> i use Monospace font in my terminal..
[18:14] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit, Ohk.. I guess even in ubuntu It uses sans(my assumption). But the sans in debian is diff.
[18:14] <chinmaya_n> TrD, Ya... I'll look that now
[18:15] <blackhawk> terry: u still there?
[18:17] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit, I'm asking the fonts used in ubuntu ( applications , terminal etc) not the font of the title ubuntu :)
[18:19] <Stava> I renamed a file to nothing (an empty string), and it disappeared
[18:19] <Stava> How can I recover it?
[18:19] <tdrusk> I accidentally rm .ssh folder. How can I get it so that ssh will work again?
[18:19] <Reikoku> sudo apt-get install openssh I think
[18:20] <Stava> Nevermind, it reappeared where I cut it from
[18:20] <oCean> tdrusk: what is not working atm?
[18:20] <chinmaya_n> TrD, The application font is not Monospace !
[18:20] <chinmaya_n> Can somebody tel me which font is the Application Font in Appearence window in Ubuntu??
[18:20] <TrD> set the Terminal font to Monospace
[18:21] <Adis> where can I download the default Windows fonts?
[18:21] <Adis> I can't find it anywhere
[18:22] <chinmaya_n> TrD, Ya.. My terminal font is already Monospace
[18:22] <oCean> chinmaya_n: it is the "ubuntu" font
[18:23] <ThinkT510> !find ttf-mscorefonts | Adis
[18:23] <chinmaya_n> oCean, Oh... It says it is ubuntu !!
[18:23] <oCean> chinmaya_n: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[18:23] <chinmaya_n> oCean, I'll try to install that and see
[18:24] <tucemiux_mob> anyone knows how to use the ALT key inside virtualbox ?
[18:25] <aikInsaan> if i wanted to migrate my pidgin settings from windows to a linux box...where should I put the .purple directory?
 how dare <Abhijit> ventures out to help you. :D
[18:27] <chinmaya_n> tucemiux_mob, for what are you using that 'Alt' I guess it works normally
[18:27] <c4gru1> hello everyone, regards from Sao Paulo, Brazil
[18:27] <zroysch> hello
[18:28] <zroysch> how do I configure Unity?
[18:28] <chinmaya_n> kural, I didnt get u man !! :)
[18:28] <zroysch> having a really hard time finding any useful documentation on it
[18:28] <ThinkT510> !unity | zroysch
[18:29] <c4gru1> Hey folks, how can I manage Ubuntu workstations just like Windows does with GPO?
[18:29] <skrmm> Hey there. Is there any way to install Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS onto the USB Flash stick and use it as its HDD? I also want to preinstall some packages and my own upstart job
[18:29] <tucemiux_mob> chinmaya_n, i think the problem is on the OS im using in virtualbox, im goign to install gest additions
[18:29] <ThinkT510> !usb | skrmm
[18:29] <chinmaya_n> tucemiux_mob, yaa... guest additions resolves many pro blems
[18:30] <_3vi1_> USB stick:  unetbootin
 did you get what <Abhijit> meant  ?
[18:31] <skrmm> ThinkT510, Than you, but before I'll dive in docs - is this possible as I've described?
[18:31] <ThinkT510> skrmm: sure, but i'm not sure how useful a server on a usbstick is
[18:31] <aikInsaan> if i wanted to migrate my pidgin settings from windows to a linux box...where should I put the .purple directory?
[18:32] <chinmaya_n> kural, Ya.. He directed me to the font which ubuntu title uses! and oCean told me that it uses ubuntu font !! so I'm dloading and trying it now!
[18:33] <carl_> Hi folks. I asked this question earlier but didn't get it to work. I have this computer (asus at3ion-t) with a vga and hdmi out. VGA works fine, no signal out on the HDMI. I'm plugging the HDMI into a telly, which I did get a signal with on windows 7. I don't want windows 7 on this system, it's too slow (plus my install drive is 16gb, windows was in danger of pushing past that)
[18:33] <skrmm> ThinkT510, I just need to record audio with arecord and store/rotate audio files on the usb stick + web access to them. Anyway, thank you for your suggestion
[18:33] <wdp> maybe i should try hdmi myself, then i could help people with it.
[18:34] <wdp> i see questions and problems regarding hdmi every day in various channels
[18:34] <the-newsman> hi
[18:34] <wdp> :>
[18:34] <ThinkT510> skrmm: wouldn't it be better to use the mini.iso rather than server to tailor your install how you like?
[18:34] <the-newsman> i need help to add shared printer on xp box to my BT box.
[18:34] <Abhijit> i was away
[18:34] <Abhijit> something happend in my back?
[18:34] <Abhijit> chinmaya_n, issue solved?
[18:35] <carl_> the at3ion-t has an nvidia ion chipset. Dunno if it's built into the processor itself, but if it's DX11 compatible then it shares workload with the cpu, and vice versa. Anyway, as well as a realtek sound chipset which works fine, it's got an nvidia HD audio chipset taht sends sound out via HDMI
[18:35] <skrmm> ThinkT510, mini.iso? What do you mean?
[18:35] <induz> how to mount a raw-cd ISO image on ubuntu??
[18:35] <ThinkT510> !mini | skrmm
[18:35] <chinmaya_n> kural, Abhijit , oCean : I just downloaded and saw it is not that font :-( It is what I was expecting -- UBUNTU title font/logo font.
[18:36] <Abhijit> ok
[18:36] <oCean> chinmaya_n: no, it is the font that is used in applications etc
[18:36] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit, Can u just look look in ur appearence window??
[18:36] <the-newsman> i need help to add shared printer on xp box to my BT box.
[18:36] <chinmaya_n> oCean, Ohk... I'll just try a live CD of ubuntu
[18:37] <induz> I want to mount a ISO iamge to view its folder. How can i do it without buring it on a CD/
[18:37] <skrmm> ThinkT510, Sounds really good. Thank you very much!
[18:37] <induz> basically to run it virtually
[18:38] <induz> is there any programs for it on ubuntu?
[18:38] <ThinkT510> skrmm: no worries :) reminds me of an arch install
[18:38] <Lasers> induz: Right-click on the ISO didn't work?
[18:38] <th0r> induz: I think it is mount -o loop filename mntpoint, or install acetoneiso
[18:38] <oCean> chinmaya_n: http://i.imgur.com/wqOSE.jpg  (it's kde, but still the ubuntu font)
[18:38] <Lasers> !iso | induz
 System - Preferences - > Appearence -- fonts,
[18:39] <habba> What would be the best way to have a program running with mono, restart if it crashes?
[18:39] <habba> is there a shell script to restart it when it crashes?
[18:39] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, ok
[18:39] <habba> automatically
 watchpid based script
[18:40] <induz> installing acetoneiso now...hope it works
[18:40] <habba> kural is it as simple as a batch file using start -wait?
 Logic : when it starts: count down : check: action
[18:42] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, this is my fonts in lucid http://imagebin.org/164512
[18:42] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, but they are not default i think. i have a new theme applied.
[18:42] <the-newsman> i need help to add shared printer on xp box to my BT box.
[18:43] <the-newsman> any1 to help me ?
 or you could use monit
[18:43] <chinmaya_n> oCean, Ya... I could see the same font I  've downloaded(as people told here)... I might be searching for some other font. I'll look into a live CD and can anybody confirm.
[18:43] <oCean> thenub3141: BT meaning backtrack?
[18:43] <habba> kural the program is running in termina., and when it crashes, it just goes back to the terminal path to its folder, is this script something that will just run the same command to start it again?
 monit would be a overkill tough
[18:43] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit_,Ya... this is the font I'm looking for...
[18:43] <oCean> thenub3141: sorry, not you
[18:43] <the-newsman> oCean yes
[18:43] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, ok
[18:43] <the-newsman> BT =backtrack
[18:43] <oCean> the-newsman: unfortunately that's not supported here
[18:43] <habba> monit looks like to much
[18:43] <ThinkT510> !backtrack | the-newsman
[18:43] <chinmaya_n> But As it says Sans But the sans in debian is so slim and thin
[18:43] <oCean> the-newsman: there's #backtrack-linux for that
[18:43] <the-newsman> oCean BT is built on ubuntu
[18:44] <oCean> the-newsman: can be, but it is a not supported derivative
[18:44] <the-newsman> oCean tell me how in ubuntu and it will be the same as BT
[18:44] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, ask debin people then
[18:44] <oCean> the-newsman: no, you have to ask in the appropriate channel
 if program pid doesnt exist , or dead. Remove dead pid file and xterm -e $program ? would that work ?
[18:44] <the-newsman> oCean well i have actually both. can u tell me how in ubuntu ?
[18:44] <habba> kural, your talking a bit above my level
[18:45] <techi_602> anyone remember command which display only printable text from binary file?
[18:45] <oCean> the-newsman: No, you're talking about BT, stop asking here
[18:45] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit_, Yaa... I tried .. But many dont know what ubuntu uses. so i came here :) I've to try a live CD now ;)
 sorry , that i could not be of your use.
[18:45] <the-newsman> oCean i talk abt ubuntu.
[18:45] <Lasers> chinmaya_n: See Advanced (under fonts). Change types.
[18:45] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit_, Thanx a lot buddy...
[18:46] <chinmaya_n> Lasers, Ya.. I did... but the results didnt fetch it..
[18:46] <the-newsman> any1 here to help me how to add shared printer on xp to ubuntu box ?
[18:46] <carl_> Hey, in previous versions of Ubuntu I was able to zoom in using that button between crtl and alt, and the scrolly wheel on the mouse
[18:46] <carl_> it doesn't work anymore.
[18:46] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, show them the image then. ask them how to get these fonts.
[18:46] <edbian> carl_: That button is called 'windows key' or 'super'  Install ccsm and turn on zoom desktop! :)
[18:47] <pfifo> the-newsman, samba/cifs dows sharing of UNIX printers to windows machines
[18:47] <carl_> so, apt-get ccsm? What's it called in the.. Unngh, where's synaptic?
 what exactly is the program you are running via terminal
[18:47] <carl_> I don't like how they got rid of the menus
[18:47] <oCean> the-newsman: what does lsb_release -d output?
[18:47] <skjoedt> Has anyone tried to get Ubuntu on Asus Eee Pad Transformer? What are your experience? What is not working at this stage?
[18:47] <chinmaya_n> Abhijit_, Ya... I'll do!! Thats a good Idea :cheers:
[18:47] <the-newsman> any1 here to help me how to add shared printer on xp to ubuntu box ?
[18:47] <Abhijit_> chinmaya_n, welcome.
[18:47] <habba> mono
[18:48] <habba> kural, mono which is running an Exe
[18:48] <edbian> carl_: You can use synaptic or apt-get:  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:48] <edbian> carl_: What menus are you talking about?
[18:48] <nit-wit> carl_, right pane box with the + is the applications click and type sysnaptic
[18:48] <nit-wit> *panel
[18:48] <th0r> the-newsman: have you tried to find any info on the web? there are a number of good tutorials on that topic
[18:49] <nit-wit> carl_, sorrl left panel
[18:49] <the-newsman> ubuntu 10.0.4 LTS
[18:49] <the-newsman> th0r can u give me one ?
[18:49] <carl_> well, up to this version, you had a menu on the top, it's still there, showing wireless, email and things like that, but on the left hand side used to be tabs like places, system, I think the leftmost was called ubuntu or applications
[18:49] <Lasers> 10.0.4 does not exist!
[18:49] <kural> use pidof when exec the mono code. Store in a file & then watchpid ?
[18:49] <th0r> the-newsman: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=add+a+network+printer+to+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest
[18:49] <the-newsman> 10.04
[18:50] <edbian> carl_: You're talking about the gnome panel.  yeah those menus are gone now.  This new interface is called unity.  click the ubuntu button in the top left corner and you can search for synaptic or the term
[18:50] <oCean> the-newsman: still on the backtrack box?
[18:50] <kural> okay goto to go ...
[18:50] <pfifo> oCean, cause its impossible to use a 10.04 livecd of course
[18:50] <carl_> Oh right. I thought gnome was ingetral with ubuntu
[18:50] <oCean> pfifo: ?
[18:51] <habba> kural, sounds like it would work, would this be an sh file?
[18:52] <edbian> carl_: They use unity now which is built on gnome
[18:52] <pfifo> oCean, if he says he is using ubuntu 10.04 now instead of BT thats good enough for me.
[18:53] <claviusmond> im making a remove sh script with text editor, I need to change all the return pressings for spaces, how do I do that?
[18:54] <dr_willis> j #ubuntu+1
[18:55] <Trace> Hey, I got a question
[18:55] <Hamradio2008> how do I get t twitlive
[18:55] <zroysch> ThinkT510: I want to configure the shortcuts in the top menu. I don't see documentation on this. I mean there must be a simple config file or something?
[18:55] <dr_willis> !info twitlive
[18:55] <edbian> Trace: and that is?
[18:55] <Trace> How do you access a ubuntu distro without the pass, username, root, ect? You know, hack it?
[18:55] <Trace> ????
[18:55] <Lasers> Trace: Rip out the hard drive.
[18:55] <Trace> Anyone know how? Im just curious.
[18:55] <habba> I have a bat file for windows that does this, its just a simple way to have the program restart. If the program crashes, it just cycles back and runs the command again.
[18:55] <Hamradio2008> I am using xchat and ubuntu and want to get to the twitlive chat room
[18:55] <wols_> Trace: don't ask this again
[18:55] <dr_willis> Trace:  if you have physical access to the box. You boot a live cd.
[18:55] <zroysch> Lasers: that accomplishes alot
[18:56] <dr_willis> This is why you keep the pcs locked away.
[18:56] <ThinkT510> zroysch: i don't use unity, and its my understanding they don't want it very configurable (i use xfce)
[18:56] <wols_> dr_willis: hacking and helping to is against freenode policies
[18:56] <edbian> Trace: Well one way is to send data to a service that is running on that system in such a way it causes that service to crash.  Sometimes it can crash in a way that allows you do have an effect on the system.
[18:56] <LegacyTrace121> hm
[18:56] <edbian> LegacyTrace121: ^^
[18:56] <Hamradio2008> Can someone tell me how to configure xchat to get to twitlive chat room
[18:56] <andygraybeal> can anyone recommend an adsl modem?   brand/model -- i use westell's at work only because verizon has supplied them.
[18:56] <zroysch> ThinkT510: I see. That's incredibly retarded. I mean you're going to have the default gui with zero configuration? Huge mistake
[18:56] <edbian> LegacyTrace121: But that is extremely elaborate and usually impossible.  The most common way is to just guess username / paswords
[18:56] <wols_> andygraybeal: ##hardware
[18:56] <andygraybeal> thanks wo
[18:56] <andygraybeal> ls
[18:56] <dr_willis> Hamradio2008:  find the server you need and channel you need and connect to it.
[18:57] <Hamradio2008> how do you find the server
[18:57] <dr_willis> Hamradio2008:  check their web page? ive neer heard of the thing
[18:57] <edbian> harisund: google it
[18:58] <edbian> LegacyTrace121: Hacking is an extremely broad term.
[18:58] <dr_willis> and vague term
[18:58] <ThinkT510> zroysch: if you think about it, from a support point of view less should go wrong and it should be easier to troubleshoot (theoretically)
[18:59] <zroysch> ThinkT510: valid point
[18:59] <zroysch> ThinkT510: So, is it stable? I've heard reports saying not so much
[18:59] <ThinkT510> zroysch: but i prefer my desktop to my liking, hence i stick with xfce
[18:59] <ThinkT510> zroysch: thats why i said theoretically
[18:59] <Hamradio2008> the wiki page says The servername to connect is irc.twit.tv on port 6667, and we are chatting in #twitlive but I dont know how to get my xchat there?
[19:00] <scoates> hello. I'm following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty and do-release-upgrade gives me "An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool." ... help?
[19:00] <edbian> Hamradio2008: /server irc.twit.tv    and then /join #twitlive
[19:00] <edbian> Hamradio2008: But this is offtopic
[19:01] <Hamradio2008> where do you enter that in xchat? please help sorry for the questions that may be offtopic I am a newbe
[19:01] <Lasers> scoates: Do a clean installation. You're far off. It's probably the best idae.
[19:01] <Lasers> idea*
[19:01] <scoates> Lasers: it's a remote server so that's not an option
[19:01] <Trace> WWW.MEATSPIN.COM
[19:01] <Trace> WWW.MEATSPIN.COM
[19:01] <FloodBot1> Trace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:01] <edbian> Hamradio2008: Same place you talk to us
[19:01] <edbian> Trace: I thought we could have a real discussion!
[19:01] <edbian> by by
[19:02] <Hamradio2008>  /server irc.twit.tv
[19:02] <Hamradio2008> ?
[19:02] <dr_willis> try without the space... :)
[19:02] <edbian> Hamradio2008: yes, without a space of course
[19:02] <dr_willis> this is when you may want to go spend 10 min reading the xchat irc beginners guides...
[19:03] <dr_willis> if that web site had given the irc channel as a url like irc://irc.twit.tv/twitlive
[19:03] <dr_willis> it may have been trivial :)
[19:04] <ConvolutedMusing> I'm having a problems while scanning for package updates. I'm using 10.04 and get an error talking about not being able to find jaunty backport sources. Error output is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650784/ Any solutions to this?
[19:04] <dr_willis> ConvolutedMusing:  you are using Jaunty?
[19:04] <dr_willis> !jaunty
[19:04] <dr_willis> the servers prob. have been moved/closed down.
[19:04] <jmwpc> Any recommendations for a dyndns client? I see several in the repos...
[19:05] <ConvolutedMusing> dr_willis: As I stated, I'm using 10.04 aka Lucid
[19:05] <dr_willis> jmwpc:  many routers have them built in. :)
[19:05] <dr_willis> ConvolutedMusing:  then you dont need any jaumty repos/entries in your sources. remove them
[19:05] <ConvolutedMusing> dr_willis: How do I remove them?
[19:05] <dr_willis> text editor, or rm command.. depending on where they are comming from
[19:05] <jmwpc> dr_willis: Mine does... but I have a paid dyn dns account and it only appears to update the main domain name... I was hoping a client might update all of them for me.
[19:06] <dr_willis>  /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/files
[19:06] <dr_willis> jmwpc:  Hmm. I just go the cheap route. :) so cant suggest any.
[19:07] <jmwpc> dr_willis: no problem... I'll keep digging here a bit. Maybe there is something on the dyndns end I can configure too
[19:09] <white_magic> is there a way to reset all network settings to default in ubuntu 11.04? specifically im concerned with wifi networks' settings
[19:10] <jmwpc> dr_willis: Looks like the router takes a comma separated list afterall. Problem solved :)
[19:10] <quatrz> hi, cant install ubuntu 11.04. from Live CD. it crashes at language pack. Google searching not helped
[19:11] <aureianimus> do you have wired internet?
[19:11] <slgma> are there any apps to control the mouse on another computer (not vnc, just the mouse)
[19:12] <quatrz> me?
[19:12] <aureianimus> sorry, yes, quartz, you
[19:12] <quatrz> yea, wired and wifi usb stick also.
[19:13] <GOMI> what distro is best for a 10gig hd ??
[19:13] <slgma> wasnt talking to you specfically
[19:13] <slgma> but thank you
[19:13] <dr_willis> slgma:  can you see the other pc's monitor? if so you can use synergy. to get a remote keyboard/mouse setup
[19:13] <slgma> lol willis
[19:13] <slgma> actually
[19:13] <slgma> about 5 seconds before you said that, i intsalled synergy
[19:13] <slgma> gonna try it now
[19:13] <dr_willis> GOMI:  ubuntu can fit. but it depends on what work you want to do with it as to how useable it will be.
[19:14] <slgma> how do you run synergy
[19:14] <aureianimus> quartz, in that case, i don't know
[19:14] <dr_willis> slgma:  it can take a little tweaking.. its configuration could be s bit more friendly
[19:14] <dr_willis> you run synergys on the 'server' and syngeryc on the client. and configure both via a config file. theres some guis to it.
[19:15] <dr_willis>  sudo apt-get install quicksynergy synergy
[19:15] <Dan__> hi, i reinstalled windows and changed grub to point to it but it says 'bootmgr missing' or something. it doesnt do this if i just select the drive in boot options, how do i fix it?
[19:15] <dr_willis> quicksynergy = gui to config it
[19:16] <quatrz>  someone else can help me? ubuntu instalation crashing at language pack. cant install ubuntu.
[19:16] <everybody-> hi
[19:16] <wols_> Dan__: by installing windows properly this time. you changed boot order, installed windows and then changed the boot order back to how it was. that's bad and will not work.
[19:17] <Dan__> quatrz: you could try to install using the alternate install ISO
[19:18] <slgma> dr_willis  you still there
[19:18] <white_magic> anyone know how i might be able reset all wireless settings (and wifi networks' settings) in ubuntu?
[19:18] <slgma> i read the help but im not sure how to set this up
[19:19] <dr_willis> slgma:  quicksynergy = gui to config it
[19:19] <dr_willis> server will be the pc you are typing/mouseing at.. client is the remote.
[19:19] <slgma> dr_willis, <3
[19:19] <slgma> kk gotcha
[19:19] <random0> Q) What's the easiest way to update a Ubuntu 10.04 LTS iso image ?
[19:19] <quatrz> Dan_:  which one? older version 10.04 or 11.04 64bit? No other choices is given.
[19:20] <dr_willis> random0:  you mean convert a 10.04 to a 10.04.4 image ?
[19:20] <random0> nope apt-get update, the current 10.04 so i can re burn
[19:20] <random0> chroot ?
[19:20] <dr_willis> random0:  you dont really 'update' an iso image file..
[19:21] <dr_willis>  unless you some how resync/zsync/it.. easiest to just download the latest
[19:21] <Dan__> quatrz: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ you will have to download and burn the ISO again.
[19:21] <random0> ok rebuild the iso like you could ages ago
[19:21] <dr_willis> I dont even recall the caommand to 'resync sync' them. used it in beta ages ago.. dident seem to work very well then.
[19:21] <pfifo> random0, download and burn, use the 'toram' boot option if you only have 1 cd rom and only a live enviroment
[19:22] <dr_willis> http://www.howtogeek.com/60406/how-to-upgrade-your-ubuntu-iso-without-re-downloading/
[19:22] <quatrz> Dan_: thanx i'll try.
[19:22] <dr_willis> it 'zsync' :)
[19:24] <tucemiux> how do you probe for another OS?
[19:25] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: sudo update-grub
[19:25] <dr_willis> their upgrade tests redownloaded like 80% of the Iso. :)  not a lot of saveings i guess.
[19:25] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: thanks! that's the command I was looking for
[19:26] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: it should probe automatically, if it doesn't add to the list you need to add it manually
[19:26] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: update-grub should add another entry?? or do I need to run anything else?
[19:26] <trism> dr_willis: it's more useful for the ubuntu+1 daily cds, since they don't change much
[19:27] <tucemiux> does every OS need to have its own /boot partition for the thing to work???
[19:27] <dr_willis> trism:  yea. thats about the only time ive seen it mentioned/used :)
[19:27] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  not really.
[19:28] <dr_willis> tucemiux:  but a /boot/ partition can be handy.
[19:28] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: no, it will find the kernels
[19:28] <tucemiux> dr_willis: I couldnt install 11.04 without a "/boot" partition and now I just isntalled archlinux on another partition but grub2 cant boot into it
[19:28] <dr_willis> you can install 11.04 with out a boot.. but i guess if you got a weird setup it may need one.
[19:28] <dr_willis> to boot properly
[19:29] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: works fine for me, added the arch entry automatically
[19:29] <dr_willis> you may need to configure grub2 by hand to add it...
[19:29] <dr_willis> grub2 can only be so smart. :) if the archlinux partiton is not mounted when you run update-grub - it may skip it.
[19:29] <tucemiux> ThinkT510:  how did you do it? I already have dual boot with XP and ubuntu set up, now I want to add archlinux in 10 gigs of free space
[19:30] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: i just ran sudo update-grub, it added automatically
[19:30] <daanish> what is the best file manager?
[19:30] <ThinkT510> !best | daanish
[19:31] <dr_willis> daanish:  depends on your needs.
[19:31] <dr_willis> daanish:  depending on the task. i use differnt ones.
[19:31] <daanish> I was actually trying to figure out what the chatroom was for the bot ^_^ thanks!
[19:31] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: I have bad luck then 'cos its not happening on my machine, im going to try creatin  a "/boot" partition for arch
[19:31] <ThinkT510> !brain | daanish
[19:31] <daanish> dr_willis, can I just say that I've been in here about a dozen times over the last few years and I always always see you here. You are inspiring.
[19:32] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: wait, so y ou first installed arch without installing a boot loader, then you went into ubuntu and ran update-grub ?
[19:32] <daanish> thanks ThinkT510
[19:32] <ThinkT510> daanish: no worries :)
[19:32] <rubenjr> query rypervenche
[19:32] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: yeah
[19:33] <dr_willis> daanish:  and yes. i have no life...
[19:34] <ThinkT510> dr_willis: correction, you have a life of service to the ubuntu community
[19:35] <Arcademan> May I ask, is Gnome 3 going to be supported like installed on 12.04 near future
[19:35] <daanish> dr_willis, What ThinkT510 said. =]
[19:36] <ThinkT510> Arcademan: i think it is going to be supported, when i'm not sure, i thought it was the next release 11.10()
[19:36] <slgma> dr_willis
[19:36] <slgma> this doesnt work :/
[19:36] <slgma> read that theres issues with ubuntu
[19:39] <dr_willis> slgma:  had it work in the past. not tried it lately
[19:40] <dr_willis> so 'issues with ubuntu' would be a bit far reaching. :)
[19:41] <ronqbc> how can i know if i have graphic accelaration?
[19:41]  * everybody- says hi
[19:41] <dr_willis> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.3-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
[19:41] <dr_willis> doh.. wrong paste.. :)
[19:41] <dr_willis> syngery howto --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[19:42] <everybody-> Does anyone know if there's any difference between the normal and the alternative ubuntu isos, other than the GUI/CLI installation?
[19:42] <dr_willis> slgma:  one issue may be you need to set up the ip to hostname in /etc/hosts or just use the ip# in the configs
[19:42] <dr_willis> everybody-:  the alt-cd can be used for a upgrade. and a few other special cases. but the os they install is the same
[19:43] <stephenthemartyr> would anyone know if the'low-latency kernel by Alessio Igor Bogani is any good?
[19:46] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: my i PM you?
[19:46] <ThinkT510> may
[19:46] <stephenthemartyr> sure do i have to have an acount to do that cuz i dont think i have one
[19:47] <everybody-> @dr willis, thanks. I've had some trouble with ubuntu on one PC. It installs fine, but doesn't startup past the bootscreen.
[19:47] <everybody-> btw, I've tried 10.04 and later versions.
[19:47] <ThinkT510> stephenthemartyr: check the left
[19:49] <slgma> dr_willis
[19:49] <slgma> i got it working by following a different tutorial, and downgrading it
[19:49] <slgma> thanks again for your help
[19:49] <slgma> its amazing
[19:49]  * everybody- needs further assistance with the above problem.
[19:49] <edbian> everybody-: What is the problem?
[19:49] <slgma> do you happen to know of an audio client/server, like so i can hear the audio from the client pc
[19:50] <everybody->  I've had some trouble with ubuntu on one PC. It installs fine, but doesn't startup past the bootscreen.
[19:50] <slgma> did you format the whole drive
[19:50] <nothingspecial> slgma: mpd
[19:50] <slgma> or does it have multiple partitions
[19:50] <edbian> everybody-: What if you turn off quite and splash, can you see any errors during boot?
[19:50] <slgma> thanks nothingspecial
[19:50] <slgma> is it hard to setup
[19:51] <everybody-> @edbian, How do I turn those off?
[19:51] <edbian> everybody-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[19:51] <everybody-> thanks
[19:51] <edbian> everybody-: How did I see that coming? :P
[19:51] <edbian> everybody-: sure
[19:52] <nothingspecial> slgma: no, there is a commented example conf that ou need to edit
[19:52] <slgma> awesome, thanks
[19:52] <nothingspecial> slgma: plenty of info through a search
[19:52] <slgma> kk, thanks again
[19:52] <slgma> nothingspecial, whats the best client to use
[19:52] <slgma> the most lightweight one
[19:54] <nothingspecial> slgma: There are console clients such as ncmpc or ncmpcpp
[19:55] <mrk1> Hi everyone, i am using wine to run an application but it is giving me an error because i dont have bonjour installed any ideas?
[19:56] <slgma> nothignspecial
[19:56] <slgma> nothingspecial, is it compatible with mplayer for videos
[19:56] <carl_> Banshee is greyed out but is still playing music. Oh, that's a point, what do I use to put music to and from my ipod? I dont' want to use itunes
[19:56] <ReL1K> Anyone experiencing issues with 11.04 and subversion checkins? I'm getting a "Couldn't perform atomic initialization" and in logs: SQLite compiled for 3.7.4, but running with 3.5.6 ", sqlite3 shows 3.7.4 as installed
[19:57] <slgma> carl, what kind of ipod
[19:57] <slgma> rhythmbox worked great for ipods for me
[19:57] <slgma> well, except for the ipod touch 4g
[19:57] <nothingspecial> slgma: no
[19:58] <slgma> oh damn
[19:58] <slgma> nevermind then
[19:58] <nothingspecial> slgma: cvlc
[19:58] <slgma> :(
[19:58] <slgma> ok forget it then ill just use headphones on the other pc
[19:58] <slgma> its a slow pc and mplayer is the only media player it handles well
[19:58] <slgma> vlc is kinda bloated
[19:58] <slgma> thank you for all your help
[19:58] <slgma> i really appreciate it
[19:59] <dr_willis> vlc has a remote control feature. :)
[19:59] <slgma> ill try vlc on it
[20:00] <slgma> and see if it doesnt lag like crazy
[20:00] <dr_willis> i can controll vlc on the pc. via my AndroidPhone. :)
[20:00] <slgma> yea
[20:00] <nothingspecial> slgma: going
[20:00] <slgma> i do the same thing with XBMC
[20:00] <dr_willis> actaully i can stream to my phone  via vlc, and xbmc, and gmote. and some other apps. :)
[20:00] <slgma> i control my xbmc with my android phone
[20:00] <slgma> yea airshare
[20:00] <slgma> or whatever
[20:01] <dr_willis> I bought a Boxee box the other day also. :) its a Mini-pc that just runs boxee
[20:01] <carl_> Banshee is taking a long, two minute pause between songs. I have just given it my music library (dunno how big it is, but it's big) to sort, and it's finished indexing them. What's making it take so long?
[20:01] <mrk1> dr_willis can you also stream mkv files?
[20:02] <dr_willis> mrk1:  i never noticed the file type matering.  Ive only done it a few times. its easier to just download and play them off the phones sd card.
[20:03] <AMAG> Hello, I have an ubuntu 10.10 machine which I've just swapped much hardware on.  When booting, the display simply has "Ubuntu 10.10" and the progressing red/gray dots, and on vty1 is a few error messages including it not finding one filesystem, an "init: ureadahead main process (479) terminated with status 5" and a "[    9.127847] Too many connections"
[20:04] <alex--> AMAG: what do you mean exactly my much hardware?
[20:04] <mrk1> dr_willis but you have been able to do video though
[20:04] <AMAG> I'm not sure if there is disk activity as the disk is on a raid controller without any activity LED.  Is it likely the machine is busy running fsck and will proceed to boot eventually, or may it be confused and requiring intervention?
[20:04] <ronqbc> how can i know if i have graphic accelaration?
[20:04] <ritzz> is there a way to set internet speed for wireless and also to wired connections?
[20:04] <everybody-> Yes
[20:04] <alex--> AMAG: what do you mean exactly my much hardware?
[20:04] <alex--> by *
[20:05] <AMAG> alex--:Same RAID card and disks, everything else changed.  Old CPU or mainboard failed, so I just replaced mainboard, CPU, RAM, DVD, PSU, etc.
[20:05] <mrk1> does anyone know what bonjour is?
[20:05] <carl_> great, and the damn thing doesn't only not take a long time to play, it doesn't play the songs from the start. Do I need the latest and greatest processor to run a media player?
[20:06] <alex--> AMAG: try to do it in steps, so first the ram, then the dvd, and when you insert something, no errors, you continue, and when you insert the part that is wrong, you know which one it is
[20:06] <AMAG> If fsck is running it may take a long time since the machine previously crashed when the CPU failed, so the raid controller is no doubt doing a verify that will take a long time and greatly slow the disk access
[20:06] <dr_willis> carl_:  depends on the media.. 1080p can be a bit of a cpu hog.
[20:06] <KagomeS> I want to "downgrade" my Ubuntu.  I have the DVDs written.  Is Lucid Lynx or Maverick Meerkat better?
[20:06] <carl_> I was playing either mp3's or FLAC
[20:07] <dr_willis> KagomeS:  depends on your needds. many people stick to the LTS versions
[20:07] <dr_willis> !lts
[20:07] <AMAG> alex--:Well, I already bought all the new parts and swapped the raid/hdds into the new box.  I am just trying to figure out if it's hung right now or if it is just taking a long time to fsck.
[20:07] <dr_willis> carl_:  id think it need very little power to play audio files.
[20:07] <alsuna> mrk1: maybe this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonjour_%28software%29
[20:07] <alex--> At which step are you in the booting process exactly amag?
[20:08] <mrk1> alsuna no i meant how to install it for ubuntu
[20:08] <carl_> Well it's taking about two minutes to laod up a song, then doesn't play it from the start, it plays it from however long the gap is. I think I'll just use VLC, and have to use a mac or windows machine to use the ipod
[20:08] <KagomeS> dr_wills - scribus, gimp, inkscape (graphics); lots of writing (mainly just open office, probably); OpenShot video editor, some games (logic ones mainly)
[20:08] <AMAG> I'm not certain.  There isn't much indication of what is going on.  vty1 only has 7 lines on it, the last one is that [    9.127847] Too many connections
[20:09] <KagomeS> I hate the Unity format, so probably will just stick with Lucid.  Thanks!
[20:09] <alex--> At which step are you in the booting process exactly AMAG
[20:09] <edbian> KagomeS: You can use 11.04 and gnome2.x or kde or xfce or any other!
[20:09] <edbian> KagomeS: 11.04 does not require unity
[20:10] <AMAG> alex--:I really don't know.  vty7 is displaying "Ubuntu 10.10" and the progressing red/gray dots, and vty1 just has those few messages.  The dot pattern on vty7 is still moving.
[20:10] <alsuna> mrk1: i have no idea, just googling it now, what about this: http://avahi.org/
[20:11] <alex--> AMAG: press right arrow
[20:11] <alex--> you will see what's going on
[20:11] <KagomeS> edbian  Yes, I Have Natty Narwhal install right now.  It "works," but not all that wel. I have a disk for Maverick Meerkat written, too.
[20:11] <edbian> KagomeS: Why don't you try xfce on natty?  or gnome2.x?
[20:12] <falathar> is it possible to have both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio installed on the same partition at the same time?
[20:13] <KagomeS> edbian, I've tried classic and others on Natty.  I still have problems with it not responding correctly.
[20:13] <AMAG> alex--:okay, it looks like it was running fsck, but now that screen shows, at the bottom, "init: ureadahead-other main process (1743) terminated with status 4"
[20:13] <edbian> KagomeS: alright.  I just don't think you're going to get better performance on a  different version.  I suggest you grab the latest LTS if you're not going to use 11.04  (that's 10.04)
[20:14] <alex--> AMAG: i have no idea about that error
[20:14] <AMAG> hrm :-/
[20:14] <KagomeS> edbian, yes, going to use Lucid Lynx . . . I was doing well with that one.
[20:14] <edbian> bye apparently
[20:16] <pfifo> falathar, yes
[20:16] <Oxymoron> I try again with HDMI. Have someone else tried to fix HDMI output from ubuntu? How do you search for bug search it? I googled and found a earlier bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/722501, I have exact same laptop ulvt with nvidia G210
[20:16] <pfifo> falathar, to be more accurate, you can simply install all of ubuntu studios packages on a normal ubuntu
[20:17] <falathar> pfifo: okay, thanks :D
[20:17] <ritzz> please any one?
[20:18] <Oxymoron> Last try with nvida resulted in a defect xorg.conf file ... which locked me out fromUbuntu with fatal error xD
[20:18] <ronqbc> how can i know if i have graphic accelaration?
[20:19] <edbian> ronqbc: unity works
[20:19] <edbian> ronqbc: probably the easiest way to know
[20:19] <JasFasolka> Problem involves files view. In "tight" view (my translate, I got polish version) it kinda "cuts" names of the files. If the file is long I can't see it all, hell, I see only a lil part of its name. Some way to change it so I can see more?
[20:20] <ronqbc> edbian, can you explain me more about what should works in unity?
[20:20] <AMAG> alex--:ctrl+alt+del rebooted and then it came up to gdm correctly.  Go figure! :)
[20:20] <pfifo> ronqbc, i always run the program glxgears
[20:20] <edbian> ronqbc: Either it lets you log into unity or not. that's all there is to it
[20:20] <edbian> ronqbc: glxgears is another way
[20:21] <pfifo> ronqbc, but with glxgears it only gives you a framerate, you would need to know beforehand what your systems is supposed to get
[20:22] <ronqbc> edbian, what is really unity? so it isn't the left bar?
[20:23] <edbian> ronqbc: The left bar is part of unity
[20:23] <ThinkT510> !unity | ronqbc
[20:23] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: do you have a "/boot" partition your ubuntu distro ?
[20:23] <JasFasolka> Problem involves files view. In "tight" view (my translate, I got polish version) it kinda "cuts" names of the files. If the file is long I can't see it all, hell, I see only a lil part of its name. Some way to change it so I can see more?
[20:24] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: nope, just /
[20:24] <ronqbc> ok thanks
[20:24] <ThinkT510> tucemiux: still can't get it to detect arch?
[20:24] <Zephyr> !list
[20:26] <john_rambo> Can the live cd read ZFS ?
[20:26] <ThinkT510> no
[20:28] <tucemiux> ThinkT510: screw it! Im going to reformat my hard drive, reinstall ubuntustudio and then install arch
[20:29] <MrUnagi> is there a postfix front end?
[20:29] <intlkleinblue> hi, i am wishing to encrypt a series of strings individually with AES256 on the fly from commandline using ubuntu, how do I go about doing this?
[20:32] <Andy-at-home> guys, anyone familiar with VPNs on ubuntu? are there any considerations I need to think about? What package would yous recommend? How difficult to setup? I'm looking to use it for my android phone
[20:32] <kenneth_> Anyone here familiar with John the Ripper?
[20:32] <Milp_main> hmm how would one make a script that gets automatically executed as soon as a chroot environment is started?
[20:32] <edbian> Andy-at-home: It's built into network manager isn't it?
[20:33] <ThinkT510> !vpn | Andy-at-home
[20:33] <frostschutz> intlkleinblue: are you sure you don't want gpg or similar? aes is a block oriented cipher so it's not that easy; both key and input string have to be of correct length (or padded accordingly). you can use any scripting language that supports crypt with this particular cipher, e.g. python.
[20:33] <intlkleinblue> how would i use gpg to encrypt a string on the fly frostschutz ? i know you can do gpg -c 'file.txt'
[20:34] <intlkleinblue> but how do i do say, gpg -c 'this string of text
[20:34] <intlkleinblue> '
[20:34] <frostschutz> Milp_main: chroot /path script? or a .bashrc within the chroot?
[20:34] <alsuna> intlkleinblue: gpg -e 'this string of text'
[20:34] <Milp_main> something that automatically starts from inside
[20:34] <Milp_main> .bashrc?
[20:34] <kenneth_> I am an uber-n00b and I desperately need some help.
[20:35] <intlkleinblue> alsuna: why does it have to have a reciepent?
[20:35] <intlkleinblue> i'm not really looking for public key crypto here...
[20:36] <alsuna> intlkleinblue: ok, then gpg is not for you
[20:36] <edbian> kenneth_: here for ya
[20:36] <kyan> Hello! My computer displays a blank screen on boot. It starts booting normally but when it normally displays a graphical login, it is blank. What should I do to fix it?
[20:36] <kenneth_> I'm in a linux class and i can't figure out this assignment.
[20:36] <edbian> kenneth_: I can help.
[20:36] <edbian> kenneth_: wanna PM me?
[20:37] <edbian> kyan: Have you tried turning off splash and quite on the grub menu?
[20:37] <th0r> wish I had had irc in school
[20:37] <kyan> No, how would I do that?
[20:37] <edbian> kyan: or turning on nomodeset?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[20:37] <edbian> kyan: that link explains how to do all three.
[20:37] <frogger> hi all
[20:37] <edbian> kyan: more questions are welcome :)
[20:37] <frogger> i have a little dns related question that maybe someone can help me with
[20:37] <nit-wit> kenneth_, what's up
[20:37] <edbian> frogger: sure
[20:37] <kyan> edbian: Ok, thanks!
[20:38] <frogger> i have a bind server running on our net that does dns-caching as well as master for local dns
[20:38] <edbian> kyan: sure
[20:38] <frogger> now i would like to override an external domain to point to a server in our local net
[20:38] <edbian> frogger: k...
[20:38] <frogger> what would be the smartest way to handle this?
[20:38] <kyan> edbian: I have had the graphical login working, but it stopped after a crash.
[20:38] <relix> Hi, my root disk just ran out of inodes and I can't explain why
[20:38] <kyan> edbian: I'll try those.
[20:38] <alsuna> intlkleinblue: I'm just looking through the manpage, what you want is probably the -c option. put your string into a file, then do the gpg -c
[20:38] <frogger> with dnsmasq this would be something like address=/example.com/192.168.0.1
[20:38] <edbian> kyan: sure, nomodeset is worth a short.  Turn off all kernel options to see some errors if it doesn't work.
[20:39] <relix> it's a 15GB partition, with apparently 960K inodes in (I didn't change this on install I think), and it's only used for /* and /tmp (so no /home)
[20:39] <relix> is it normal for your root disk to use up a million indoes, or did something go wrong? I already fsck with noresults
[20:41] <frostschutz> intlkleinblue: echo "foobar" | gpg --batch --passphrase "whatever" -c -o -
[20:43] <Milp_main> hmm i got an lxde session and it wont start anything i cilck on, what could be wrong?
[20:44] <anli_> how do I reinstall every package thats installed?
[20:45] <nit-wit> Milp_main, have you loggged out and back in to see if there is a change?
[20:45] <Milp_main> uh i gotta see if i can
[20:45] <Milp_main> no clicking logout doesnt do anything either
[20:46] <Milp_main> the run dialog still seems to work
[20:46] <dr_willis> anli_:  why do you want to do that?
[20:47] <kyan> edbian: Hmm, now I have a text-mode plymouth boot screen, but it gives me a vboxdrv hardware performance counter error, and does not finish booting. That's using nodmodeset.
[20:47] <anli_> dr_willis: its fucked up
[20:47] <oCean> anli_: control your language
[20:48] <edbian> kyan: What is the first error it shows you? (I know it scrolls fast).  What is the complete vbox error?  (is this a virtual machine?)
[20:48] <anli_> I should not have tried installing gtk+ 3.0 from src
[20:48] <dr_willis> anli_:  thats a little vague.. you may be better off doing a reinstall  if you have been messint with stuff from source.
[20:48] <kyan> edbian: when it crashed, I was trying to build Banshee from source (for no particular reason beyond curiosity)
[20:48] <anli_> dr_willis: I cannot do a reinstall, and if there is a way to reinstall every package, I dont need a reinstall
[20:48] <edbian> kyan: That should be fine.  Answer my questions please.
[20:49] <dr_willis> guess you could try reinstalling all the gtk* related packages. apt-get can take wildcards
[20:49] <dr_willis> anli_:  you would no tneed to reinstall EVERY pacakge...
[20:49] <dr_willis> apt-get install --reinstall gtk*    perhaps....
[20:49] <anli_> but I dont have to do that manually, computers are good on that stuff
[20:49] <kyan> edbian: It did not scroll fast, it displayed one error then stopped: vboxdrv: Warning: 2.6.31+ kernel detected. Most likely the hardware performance counter framework which can generate NMIs is active. You have to prevent the usage of hardware performance counters by echo 2 > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[20:50] <dr_willis> !clone
[20:50] <edbian> kyan: it's telling you what command to run to fix the problem.  echo 2 > /proc/sys/...
[20:50] <anli_> dr_willis: Seems that such a command will try to expand filenames in the current directory starting with gtk
[20:50] <dr_willis> you could modify that 'clone' trick above to reinstall i guess...
[20:50] <dr_willis> anli_:  if they exist...
[20:50] <dr_willis> anli_:  so do it in an empty dir.
[20:50] <kyan> edbian: no it's not a vm. Also I think I have gotten that error in the past with no problems.
[20:50] <edbian> kyan: Run the command it says to run
[20:50] <kyan> But sure I will run it.
[20:51] <edbian> kyan: sure :)
[20:51] <edbian> kyan: Look at the file and see if there is a 2 there already
[20:51] <edbian> :)
[20:51] <anli_> dr_willis: Hm, interesting, I get conflicts
[20:52] <anli_> Its strange there is no apt-get repair
[20:52] <dr_willis> anli_:  given what you are trying to do.. id be impressed if it worked..
[20:52] <anli_> dr_willis: for what reason?
[20:52] <dr_willis> plus trying to do all packages at once. will proberly fill up the bash command line buffer.. it can only be so long
[20:53] <Milp_main> ok correction: I can open the file explorer in lxde and open things like the run dialog or file permission windows, but i cant log out or open applications, the cpu usage will spike for a second and go back down and nothing happens
[20:53] <anli_> dpkg -l does not list packages as I want, one per line and only a single column
[20:53] <dr_willis> You dont need to reinstall 'every' package for starters.. perhaps only 5% of the installed packages are gtk related
[20:53] <dr_willis> anli_:  check that !clone factoid abocve. it gves command lines to make a file with one per line
[20:53] <anli_> But if I reinstall all packages, I will reinstall that 5% of the packages as well
[20:54] <dr_willis> then a command line to read the listing
[20:54] <dr_willis> !clone
[20:54] <kyan> edbian: I can't boot in recovery mode to be able to examine that file or to run the command.
[20:55] <kyan> edbian: IThe last message it gave me was: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk.
[20:55] <anli_> But what if I apt-get install --reinstall *
[20:55] <edbian> kyan: that last message is not an error.  It's saying found a hdd.  Can you boot a liveCD ?
[20:55] <MrUnagi> is there a postfix front end
[20:56] <anli_> I tried apt-get install --reinstall \*
[20:56] <kyan> edbian: Yes I have been able to. This recovery mode problem is wierd though because it's been able to boot in recovery mode in the past even after the crash that broke it.
[20:56] <anli_> Trying Iapt-get install --reinstall .\*
[20:56] <dr_willis> if the * gets expaneded to all the packages.. it will fill the bash command line buffer.
[20:56] <MrUnagi> oh sweet
[20:56] <kyan> edbian: All my livecds though are for older versions that don't support ext4 partition though.
[20:56] <edbian> kyan: mmm ,strange.  Save that command (write it down or something) I forget it already.  echo 2 > /proc/sys/... something.
[20:57] <anli_> will apt-get install --reinstall .\* try to "reinstall" non-installed packages as well?
[20:57] <edbian> kyan: You need a live CD or recovery mode :/
[20:57] <edbian> or a live USB.  You have another computer?  Make a new liveCD / usb
[20:57] <kyan> edbian: Yes I saved it in a text file: echo 2 > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[20:57] <edbian> kyan: cool
[20:57] <kyan> edbian: Yes I do that's how I'm chatting here :-D
[20:57] <edbian> kyan: yay!
[20:58] <kyan> edbian: I have a really slow connection though :-( so I can't download the image easily (it would take hours)
[20:58] <kyan> edbian: and it's a mac  which does'nt make any thing easier for me since I don't really know macs well :-D
[20:58] <edbian> kyan: awww :(  Don't know what to tell you.  You need to edit a file on that hdd
[20:58] <edbian> kyan: ha :/
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[20:59] <edbian> anders_office: :)
[21:00] <kyan> edbian: HA! Just got recovery mode by unplugging the offending disc.
[21:00] <dr_willis> kyan:  :) that will teach that disk!
[21:00] <edbian> kyan: yay!!
[21:01] <edbian> kyan: try writing to the file but since the hdd removal fixed it I have my doubts
[21:04] <kyan> edbian: There is no file /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[21:04] <th0r> kyan: that command will create it
[21:04] <edbian> kyan: th0r is right
[21:04] <kyan> edbian: ???? Confused…
[21:05] <kyan> edbian: ok... when I ran the command (as root) it said bash: /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid: No such file or directory
[21:06] <intlkleinblue> ubottu: !vpn
[21:06] <intlkleinblue> ubottu: !irc
[21:06] <edbian> kyan: try again, if you do sudo echo 2 it should not complain about the file missing.  it should just create it
[21:07] <dr_willis> actually with using sudo and > redirecton. you may need to do the sudo tee trick..
[21:07] <kyan> edbian: Same response, but anyway I was already running as root
[21:07] <dr_willis> echo "foo" | sudo tee /root/somefile
[21:08] <intlkleinblue> ubottu: !vim
[21:08] <intlkleinblue> interesting, ubottu knows everything
[21:08] <edbian> kyan: make the file (with all those folders) and put a 2 in it
[21:08] <intlkleinblue> ubottu: !life
[21:09] <intlkleinblue> gotcha, thx ubottu
[21:10] <kyan> edbian: I tried using nano to make the file as requested an it sais: [ Error writing perf_counter_paranoid: No such file or directory ]
[21:11] <Andy-at-home> guys, the guide im using to setup pptpd says to look at /var/log/messages for the errors but theres nothing there
[21:11] <edbian> kyan: what?
[21:11] <edbian> kyan: did you use sudo nano  ?
[21:12] <kyan> edbian: well no I was already root
[21:12] <kyan> edbian: I can try again though with sudo
[21:12] <kyan> edbian: TRied with sudo, but it gave the same error.
[21:12] <edbian> kyan: How are you root?
[21:12] <edbian> kyan: nevermind can you copy / paste the command you're running?
[21:12] <Brixius111> Hello, in trying to install ubuntu from a usb key, ive used this key to install other machines, however its locking up on a toshiba laptop on boot.  Right after initializing net
[21:13] <th0r> kyan: do you have a hard drive running? Or did you unplug the only hard drive?
[21:13] <Andy-at-home> as in theres no file /var/log/messages file
[21:13] <kyan> edbian: well not copy/paste but I can type it here: sudo nano perf_counter_paranoid; I ran that after cding to /proc/sys/kernel
[21:14] <kyan> th0r: I have two internal hard drives plugged in.
[21:14] <kyan> th0r: I don't think it would have booted without them because they are where the os is
[21:15] <th0r> kyan: ok...thought you had booted from a live cd
[21:15] <edbian> th0r: This is strange?
[21:15] <kyan> th0r: no. I did not.
[21:15] <MrUnagi> !postfix
[21:15] <th0r> edbian: yeah, it is.
[21:15] <kyan> edbian: No kidding :-D
[21:15] <anli_> Is this a good reinstall script: http://pastebin.com/insQbhzF
[21:15] <edbian> r/o file system?
[21:16] <th0r> kyan: can you do a 'ls /proc/sys' and see if there is anything there? there should be, among other things, a kernel directory
[21:16] <kyan> edbian: shouldn't be. it's a normal hard disc, same one I used all along
[21:16] <kyan> th0r: sure.
[21:17] <quidnunc> How do I adjust power management
[21:17] <quidnunc> ?
[21:17] <th0r> kyan: I only see 7 folders in /proc/sys, but one is the kernel
[21:17] <quidnunc> I can't find the setting in unityi
[21:17] <quidnunc> unity*
[21:17] <kyan> th0r: ls /proc/sys: crypto debug dev fs kernel net vm
[21:17] <kyan> th0r: Yes, seven
[21:17] <th0r> kyan: do ls -l and see if those folders are executable (x)
[21:18] <TrentH> I'm having a problem with window management? It seems whatever window is ontop say if I try to click on firefox, and terminal is opened ontop of it. It clicks on terminal instead?
[21:18] <TrentH> Also window decoration keeps crashing
[21:18] <kyan> th0r: they all have the permissions r-xr-xr-x
[21:19] <kyan> th0r: so yes they are
[21:19] <th0r> kyan: can you cd into kernel?
[21:19] <kyan> th0r: Yes, I
[21:21] <TrentH> If I enable OpenGL it fixs the window decoration...but then the windows start lagging when you drag them?
[21:21] <kyan> th0r: The three related files listed are perf_event_max_sample_rate, perf_event_mlock_kb, and perf_event_paranoid.
[21:21] <kyan> th0r: There isn't any perf_counter_paranoid though
[21:21] <kyan> th0r: that's all in /proc/sys/kernel
[21:22] <th0r> kyan: where did you see the three related files?
[21:22] <Na_Klar> can I run OS X programms on my ubuntu machine? I looked at pearpc but to install a whole OS X seems to much for me. Since OS X and ubuntu have kind of a similar architecture, isn't there a plain way to achieve that?
[21:23] <kyan> th0r: in /proc/sys/kernel.
[21:23] <th0r> kyan: right, can you
[21:23] <kyan> th0r: the thread http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23223 says the error from vboxdrv can be ignored.
[21:23] <th0r> kyan: oops....can you 'cat /proc/sys/kernel/perf_event_paranoid'
[21:23] <kyan> th0r: so I don't think that s the problem
[21:23] <TrentH> th0r, fix my issues mr ubuntu god
[21:24] <kyan> th0r: cat /proc/sys/kerne/perf_event_paranoid produces: 1
[21:24] <heli> hi have anybody had such problem than when you logout you see blank black screen and nothing happens?
[21:24] <quidnunc> How do I adjust power management?
[21:24] <th0r> kyan: according to the error posted you need a 2 there...that is what that command is supposed to do
[21:24] <heli> same problem with shutdown
[21:25] <edbian> kyan: th0r: so it exists now...
[21:25] <heli> I have blank screen and then power dont go off
[21:25] <osama> hi
[21:25] <kyan> th0r: well no the error was referring to perf_counter_paranoid, not perf_event_paranoid.
[21:25] <heli> anyone know this?
[21:25] <osama> yes i'm
[21:25] <osama> :)
[21:25] <th0r> kyan: oh....I must have pasted the wrong thing
[21:25] <osama> how can i help u
[21:25] <Daghdha> Hi, tried to set up bonding of 2 nics? Not sure if it worked. I think it's wrong. Here's my ifconfig outpu http://pastebin.com/kyFhJjZw
[21:26] <Daghdha> I think just 1 nic is in the bond
[21:26] <osama> okoky
[21:27] <kyan> th0r: cat /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid produces:
[21:27] <anli_> How do I use sed to only get the first column of an output?
[21:27] <kyan> th0r: cat: /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid: No such file or directory
[21:28] <quidnunc> How do I get to gnome-power-preferences through unity?
[21:28] <Milp_main> What was the name of that one super hardcore lightweight window manager for linux?
[21:29] <th0r> kyan: you are right...I can't create that with sudo here either.
[21:29] <TrentH> hello!
[21:29] <TrentH> Alright, can somebody help me pl0z?
[21:30] <quidnunc> !ask: TrentH
[21:30] <kyan> th0r: what the heck? Weird. I though sudo could write *anything*
[21:30] <edbian> kyan: it can...
[21:30] <quidnunc> !ask TrentH
[21:30] <quidnunc> !ask
[21:30] <edbian> th0r: What is happening?!!
[21:30] <TrentH> quidnunc, alright so if this chat window is ontop of the firefox window. I go to drag the firefox window...it drags this one instead
[21:30]  * edbian 's world comes crashing down.
[21:31] <kyan> edbian: *very* weird.
[21:31] <th0r> edbian: I am trying to get that file crreated here...the tee command didn't do it either
[21:31] <edbian> what file is it again?  I'll try on my system
[21:31] <quidnunc> TrentH: Difficult to understand exactly what the problem is based on your description. What is the chat application?
[21:32] <edbian> Found it, editing on my Debian system
[21:32] <edbian> Must be a bug in Ubuntu?
[21:32] <th0r> edbian: echo 2 > /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[21:32] <edbian> IDK
[21:32] <edbian> I was able to sudo nano it
[21:32] <alex--> I wonder, do I ever need the root password on my server?
[21:32] <TrentH> quidnunc, XCHAT-Gnome But what happens is..if the Terminal window overlays my Firefox window or any other window. And if I go to click on the firefox window what it will do is drag the Terminal window instead.
[21:32] <pfifo> alex--, yes
[21:32] <alex--> When?
[21:33] <pfifo> alex--, to login as root
[21:33] <alex--> why would i need that?
[21:33] <th0r> kyan: try sudo nano /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[21:33] <edbian> nano works
[21:33] <quidnunc> th0r: I have found that some files are protected (via apparmor?) in a way similar to windows and will silently discard edits
[21:33] <TrentH> quidnunc, if I have Window 1 and Window 2, Window 1 is sitting ontop of Window 2. I go to drag/minimize window 2. It clicks on Window 1 instead.
[21:33] <kyan> edbian: th0r: http://forum.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&p=160320
[21:33] <th0r> kyan: edbian: nano worked, but touch and cat didn't
[21:33] <pfifo> alex--, not something I can answer for you, its our server
[21:33] <pfifo> your*
[21:33] <edbian> th0r: wow
[21:33] <alex--> Can I use sudo?
[21:33] <edbian> i have to go
[21:33] <alex--> Instead of root?
[21:34] <quidnunc> TrentH: Terminal? I thought it was XChat + Firefox. Is there a terminal console as well?
[21:34] <kyan> th0r: Same error: no such file or directory.
[21:34] <anli_> is there a way to tell apt-get install --reinstall to not stop and start deamons that I am reinstalling?
[21:34] <pfifo> !sudo | alex--
[21:34] <TrentH> quidnunc, it does it with any window...doesn't matter what program window it is.
[21:34] <kyan> th0r: I ran sudo nano /proc/sys/kernel/perf_counter_paranoid
[21:34] <alex--> pfifo: afaik i dont need the root account, I can just use sudo
[21:34] <alex--> Is there any way to temporary disable the root user?
[21:35] <quidnunc> TrentH: Can you do a screencast? Try gtk-recordmydesktop
[21:35] <quidnunc> TrentH: I cannot reproduce
[21:35] <quidnunc> TrentH: istanbul is another application you can try
[21:35] <quidnunc> to do a screencast
[21:35]  * quidnunc has used neither one
[21:35] <TrentH> quidnunc, also my window decoration crashes?
[21:36] <pfifo> alex--, sudo is a command, root is a user, their not the same, you (YOU) may not need to enable root, but insome cases you may benefit from being able to login in as root, in which case you have to enable the root account
[21:36] <quidnunc> TrentH: I would try turning off compiz
[21:36] <TrentH> quidnunc, explain how I do this? :)
[21:37] <compaq> hello
[21:39] <dr-willis> jello
[21:40] <TrentH> quidnunc, whenever I disable OpenGL everything seems to work better?
[21:40] <Andy-at-home> where can i find the pptpd error log?
[21:40] <Andy-at-home> the /var/log/messages doesnt exist
[21:41] <qin> Andy-at-home: Maybe auth.log?
[21:42] <Andy-at-home> that in /var/log?
[21:42] <qin> Yes.
[21:42] <kyan> th0r: I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen but it didn't seem useful
[21:42] <compaq> hello
[21:42] <Andy-at-home> doesnt appear to exist either
[21:43] <qin> Andy-at-home: What logs fo you have? grep ppt /var/log/*
[21:44] <Andy-at-home> just dpkg.log
[21:44] <Andy-at-home> comes up with any ppt
[21:45] <Milp_main> there is a vnc server running at :0 how do i kill it?
[21:45] <qin> Andy-at-home: Do you run syslogd (htop)
[21:45] <MrUnagi> i am trying to set up postfix and i get -su: cd: Maildir/new: Not a directory
[21:46] <MrUnagi> anyone know why?
[21:46] <quidnunc> TrentH: Download one of those two apps, press record, upload the video somewhere, post the link so we can see it
[21:46] <Andy-at-home> htop is installed
[21:46] <pfifo> Milp_main, i use `ps aux` to view running processes and then `killall -9 <process>` or `kill -9 <pid>` to end it
[21:46] <the_owl> how i can switch from the startx at the text mod?
[21:47] <qin> Andy-at-home: So check if you run /sbin/syslogd
[21:47] <TrentH> quidnunc, I have to wait until this download is done
[21:47] <quidnunc> Milp_main: "pkill vnc" would work
[21:48] <quidnunc> TrentH: What download is that?
[21:48] <qin> the_owl: "text mod"
[21:48] <qin> ?
[21:48] <Milp_main> quidnunc yeah it did
[21:48] <pfifo> Milp_main, careful pkill vnc would kill more han just that one process
[21:48] <TrentH> quidnunc, VMWare..So I can do some windows things
[21:48] <Milp_main> thats fine, all vnc is to be eradicated :)
[21:48] <quidnunc> Milp_main: See pfifo proviso ^
[21:48] <the_owl> yest the modality only text
[21:48] <Milp_main> now i just need to find out how this chroot environment automatically starts that vnc server every time i start it
[21:49] <the_owl> as the terminal
[21:49] <quidnunc> TrentH: I have to go but that approach is what I would suggest to get someone to help you. Graphics glitches are difficult to explain
[21:49] <quidnunc> and diagnose
[21:49] <quidnunc> the_owl: ctrl-alt-f1?
[21:49] <TrentH> Alright thank you quidnunc
[21:49] <pfifo> !details | Milp_main
[21:50] <the_owl> ok thank you
[21:50] <Milp_main> well its a chroot environment in img file, and as soon as i "chroot into it" it starts some sort of script that starts the vnc server, where should i be looking for that script?
[21:51] <pfifo> Milp_main, you are tellingit to run a program when you chroot, `man 3 chroot` for details
[21:51] <Milp_main> oooh now i found it, thanks pfifo
[21:51] <Milp_main> its /root/init.sh
[21:51] <pfifo> Milp_main, sorry, man 8 chroot
[21:51] <Daghdha> what would happen if one would say.. define eth0 and eth1 with the mode manual and assign it an ip, and then add them to a bond. with the same ip?
[21:51] <Milp_main> now if that chroot jail starts firefox in under 5 minutes im happy :)
[21:52] <Havok> heya guys, i've come here because i need help, now normally i don't come here, i use the forums, but its pretty critical and i'm a tad scared, before i even ask, is this the channel for those who.... are more cautious, like i'd rather get this fixed then work out how it got fixed.... i really am scared not lazy....
[21:52] <Daghdha> WOuld it maybe.. prevent ubuntu from booting properlyt?
[21:52] <Andy-at-home> im trying to running a pptpd server on my vps but i have only 1 ip address, is it possible to use it with the same localip and remoteip?
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Havok, just ask your question
[21:52] <pfifo> Havok, ask your question, analyze the answer and then ask about cavets
[21:53] <hukim> Hi all
[21:54] <Havok> i've got a new laptop, a HP DV6 and i've got a few problems, in order of importance, no right mouse button, now there's PLENTY on the forums and i've found some sollutions, the problem is its a multitouch pad, and the areas to push to click are apart of it, so dragging makes it jerk around erratically, and right click is over-ruled by the contact of a finger
[21:54] <Havok> i've founda  great thread, but its 15 pages long (or 13) and is full of about 6 different sollutions, i tried the one that got alot of thumbs up, compiling a kernel with a new driver, but there were errors, so i moved on.
[21:55] <Havok> i can't find a difinitive sollution, and if i can't get this working - this is my fear, a narrow window in which to return it, if i can, and i'm worrying about having auseless new laptop, so i'm asking you, in a way to research it for me, but there are so many threads, each magic bullet failing somewhere, does anyone know of a sollution that actually works
[21:55] <pfifo> Havok, multitouch and all the other latest greates devices may not work 100% in linux, they make this awesome device called a USB mouse that should suppliment your touch pad greatly
[21:56] <cds-> lol
[21:56] <cds-> true that
[21:56] <Havok> pfifo, that's waht i was afraid one of you gus would say.
[21:56] <alex--> pfifo: you can't draw with it very good
[21:56] <Havok> why i was reluctant to come here in the first place
[21:57] <Havok> i don't want multitouch, sidescrolling all that crap, i just want a touchpad that works, like my old one.
[21:57] <dr-willis> Havok:  tried the next relesse yet? it may be fixed in it.
[21:58] <pfifo> Havok, sorry but its true, multitouch is a work in progress, these things take time, developers have to reverse engineer drivers since the manufacturer wont support linus directly
[21:58] <Havok> pfifo, again, i've read up on this, ubuntu supports a multitouch pad it just hasn't seen mine as being one, hence it takes the most recent finger-contact as the dominant one.
[21:58] <linux_noob> hi everyone
[21:59] <linux_noob> i really really need help with my ati card.....
[22:00] <kroq-gar78> !ask | linux_noob
[22:00] <Daghdha> WOuld it maybe.. prevent ubifconfiguntu from booting properlyt?
[22:01] <linux_noob> ok, i have an x800 ati card, i have no clue how to install xf86.conf to make the card work, i have found out flgrx does not support it anymore
[22:01] <pfifo> Havok, there might not be much you can do about it. but you can be a great help to others by filing bug reports and and explaining what does and dose not work. Eventually you <pice of hardware> will work, but it takes time
[22:01] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: have you tried to install the ATI drivers yet through "Additional Drivers" program?
[22:02] <linux_noob> yes, empty
[22:03] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: HAVE you installed the drivers or is that what you're asking? I don't exactly know what xff86.conf is so that's why I'm aksing.
[22:03] <Havok> My next question is about ATI too, my new laptop prides itself on having two switchable graphics cards (can use their own ram, or share an extra 3gb from the system) Ubuntu only see's the lesser one, an ATI 4500M, and has given it (or its taken) 3gb of ram, the ATI Catalyst control centre, does not show any signs of seeing the second one, it was installed via aditional drivers
[22:03] <Havok> any suggestions?
[22:04] <linux_noob> well, i have just downloaded xf86-video-ati from x.org, i don't know what to do with it, so i don't think it's installed
[22:04] <pfifo> Havok, can you disable the crappier card in bios
[22:05] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: what do you mean you downloaded it from x.org?  don't you have to install the drivers from ATI's website?
[22:05] <Havok> no pfifo it can be hotswapped - works in windows (i know, i hate it too)
[22:06] <linux_noob> i have downloaded the proprietary drivers and installed the catalyst and flgrx, but found out they are not supported anymore, they don't work at all and cause serious errors
[22:06] <linux_noob> they were from amd.com
[22:06] <pfifo> Havok, can you pastebin the output of `sudo lshw && sudo lspci && sudo lsusb`
[22:06] <Havok> pfifo, i did http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1388164&page=2 the first sollution on that page, but it got some "chunk fuzz" errors when i tried to compile
[22:06] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[22:06] <linux_noob> lucid lynx now
[22:07] <Havok> pfifo, its huge just piping it to a file, give me a sec
[22:07] <pfifo> Havok, those instruction are not completer that is a low quality post
[22:08] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: how did you download the unsupported drivers from amd? I reason that the supported ones are easy to get...
[22:08] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: in case you haven't, look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:09] <pfifo> Havok, yes its more than 3 lines :)
[22:09] <linux_noob> yup, been on that and did everything but it wouldn't work, i'll just go through it to remember where it crashed.
[22:11] <linux_noob> step 11. is where it stops
[22:11] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: what is the error?
[22:12] <ciss> hi
[22:12] <Havok> [really huge]
[22:12] <linux_noob> well i don't remember the error since it was almost a week ago, but it definitely did not work cause i tried a few times with those drivers, caused many bugs
[22:13] <pfifo> Havok, i want lspci, other helpers want lshw, paste `sudo lspci` and wait on the others then
[22:13] <ciss> i'm currently fighting with bug #607560 (frequent jbd2 write access) on natty desktop. is there a solution that might have not found its way into the bug comments?
[22:14] <Havok> pfifo,
[22:14] <Havok> http://pastebin.com/CdTKWE5U
[22:14] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: what's the error?
[22:15] <cyperbg> can anyone write the exact command for copying 2 files from 1 folder and overwriting 2 same files in a different folder please
[22:15] <MrUnagi> is there a benefit to milder over mbox?
[22:15] <pfifo> Havok, ok explain the problem once agin with a bit more detail
[22:15] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: can you try again?
[22:15] <Andy-at-home> why would /var/log/messages not exist?
[22:15] <Amoz> cyperbg, cp dir1/file dir2/file, and then the same thing with the other file
[22:16] <cyperbg> Amoz is it possible for the whole command to copy both files?
[22:16] <Amoz> cyperbg, you can separate the commands with && or ;
[22:16] <ciss> cyperbg: do the target files have the same name?
[22:16] <cyperbg> ciss yes
[22:16] <cyperbg> I want to overwrite
[22:16] <linux_noob> you mean what it caused to happen? cause i don't remember the error in terminal but it was something like could not locate even though it was there. i wouldn't want to try it again because it sometimes stopped ubuntu booting, or it would auto boot in safe graphics and if it did ever boot normally then everything gets so slow and stops responding
[22:16] <Havok> pfifo, my laptop comes with 2 graphics cards, one is an ATI Radeon 4500M (mobile) and the other a 5750, these are switchable, this 'apparantly' means, they can be swapped at runtime (tested in windows) and they can go from 512mb dedicated memory to taking 3 gb of system memory (tested in windows to work) Ubuntu only sees the lesser card the 4500m and has given it 3gb of my ram... or its taken, one of the two
[22:17] <ciss> cp file1 file2 targetdir/
[22:17] <cyperbg> do I include -i
[22:17] <Havok> pfifo, my problem is, i'd like to be able to switch ebtween them and control weather they have ram or not
[22:17] <cyperbg> -i, --interactive
[22:17] <cyperbg>               prompt before overwrite
[22:17] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowTo
[22:18] <ciss> cyperbg: you want it to ask?
[22:18] <cyperbg> ciss no
[22:18] <kroq-gar78> then don't
[22:18] <ciss> then dont use -i
[22:18] <cyperbg> so it will overwrite automatically?
[22:18] <Amoz> no questions asked, yes
[22:18] <kroq-gar78> yes
[22:18] <cyperbg> great 10x
[22:18] <ciss> cyperbg: yes. try: cp --help
[22:18] <cyperbg> let's try
[22:18] <Daghdha> Hi, i am trying to bond two nicks. One of them keeps grabbing a static ip though. Not sure where that's coming from as it'snot in the interfaces
[22:18] <pfifo> Havok, you have 2 graphics cards, their output is the only thing that can be switched. #1 do you have a custome xorg.conf and if so #2 what PCI device are you telling it ot use?
[22:18] <Daghdha> it's set to manual
[22:18] <linux_noob> a link to a wiki how to page?
[22:19] <daniel__> hey what software do i use to burn a game that is in iso form to a disc ?
[22:19] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob:yes
[22:19] <kroq-gar78> daniel__: brasero
[22:19] <Havok> pfifo, no, i come from nvidia (desktop) this is a totally different config as far as i am concerned, and its not true, according to the manual, one is actually disaabled and the other one enabled.
[22:20] <daniel__> kroq-gar78, would i use the burn image option
[22:20] <linux_noob> um, i confused, that page just explains what a how to page is...    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howto
[22:20] <pfifo> Havok, well according to linux, you have 2 devices, one on PCI 01:05.0 and one on PCI 2:00.0, this is reading as 2 different devices
[22:20] <kroq-gar78> daniel__: yes
[22:21] <Havok> pfifo, i trust that then :) so regardless, what's the sollution? get new drivers from the AMD website?
[22:21] <kroq-gar78> linnux_noob: what???? that's weird...
[22:21] <i_is_broke>  0
[22:21] <pfifo> Havok, the solution is to tell X to use the one you want
[22:21] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: I'm not sure why that link is there in the Ubuntu help wiki...
[22:21] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: sorry
[22:21] <linux_noob> lol its ok
[22:21] <Havok> pfifo, is there a graphical program? like the Nvidia control panel? or is it research and learn?
[22:22] <pfifo> Havok, your basicly dealing with a dual monitor setup but with only one monitor
[22:22] <Amoz> pfifo, lol wut?
[22:22] <Havok> doesn't that defeat the purpose HP tried to do?
[22:23] <Havok> @ pfifo
[22:23] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: ah this is what I meant... http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[22:23] <pfifo> Havok, no all you need is a cusomized xorg.conf, its really not hard, google search for ati based xorg.conf's and you shout get an example, then just fine tune it
[22:23] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: then check if it supports...
[22:23] <Havok> thanks i'll come whine to you if i get stuck :)
[22:23] <linux_noob> yup, thats the driver that totally wrecked natty, maverick and almost lucid aswell
[22:24] <pfifo> Havok, i think HP is simply trying to put 2 cards into one output and allow the system to change between the two for power cunsumption aspects
[22:24] <linux_noob> im looking for that link that explains why its not supported...
[22:24] <cyperbg> ciss, so I enter the folder where the files I want to copy are and do that: cp cards.lib common.lib ~/Autominer/
[22:24] <cyperbg> does it look alright?
[22:24] <Havok> pfifo, so they are not both powered both rendering a desktop?
[22:24] <Amoz> cyperbg, yes
[22:24] <cyperbg> 10x :)
[22:25] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: yeah linux just doesn't have the market share that windoz has, so ATI doesn't really care as much... so is ur card supported?
[22:25] <kroq-gar78> by flgrx
[22:25] <pfifo> Havok, its probably way over your head but if you really want you can read the whitepaper on how PCIe works
[22:25] <linux_noob> the card used to be supported, but it just doesn't work
[22:25] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: what's ur card again?
[22:25] <gikosker> hey is anyone expert in ubuntu here?
[22:26] <gikosker> i have an issue
[22:26] <GOMI> why does it give this warning in .xsession    ".config/autostart/xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop"
[22:26] <edbian> !ask
[22:26] <kroq-gar78> !ask | gikosker
[22:26] <pfifo> Havok, but basically its only going to use power if its doing stuff
[22:26] <kroq-gar78> edbian: dang it u beat me :P
[22:26] <GOMI> problem is i deleted xfce ?!? so why does it still say that
[22:26] <edbian> kroq-gar78: :)
[22:26] <dli> linux_noob, which generation of card? ati seems to be fine for me
[22:27] <Python> I'm making a new linux distro and I need a designer for making logos, wallpapers etc...
[22:27] <Python>  any takers?
[22:27] <linux_noob> from the amd site, its the desktop version, x series, x8xx series linux x86
[22:27] <kroq-gar78> edbian: >:(
[22:27] <kroq-gar78> lol
[22:27] <linux_noob> the card is the x800
[22:27] <jrib> Python: you know what's gonna happen next right?
[22:27] <edbian> ha
[22:27] <kroq-gar78> !offtopic | Python
[22:27] <edbian> oh thank god
[22:27] <edbian> another distro
[22:27] <jrib> Python: you keep talking about things you know are not on-topic here.  Please stop
[22:27] <kroq-gar78> jrib: yup ;)
[22:27] <dli> linux_noob, weird, x800 should be stable enough
[22:27] <kroq-gar78> jrib: oh never mind
[22:28] <kroq-gar78> I was thinking something else
[22:28] <gikosker> when i open a window in Natty 11.04 in minimize the buttons on the right don;t glow but on maximize they do what is the problem?
[22:28] <exutux> GOMI: maybe you still have that command in autostart
[22:28] <dli> linux_noob, just want to confirm, you are running the open source driver, right?
[22:28] <exutux> GOMI: move it from ~/.config/autostart
[22:28] <linux_noob> thats the thing, i think i am but how do i check if i am running the open source driver?
[22:28] <Barnabas> linux_noob, install glxinfo
[22:28] <Barnabas> then
[22:28] <GOMI> exutux,  okey ill try that
[22:28] <Barnabas> glxinfo | grep vendor
[22:29] <linux_noob> sudo aptget glxinfo?
[22:29] <blink> how can I use regex in the terminal?
[22:29] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: sudo apt-get install glxinfo
[22:29] <dli> linux_noob, you may check your xorg.conf (if exists), or /var/log/Xorg.?.log
[22:29] <pfifo> Havok, but yeah, install ATI drivers and tell X to use those drivers on the correct pci device and it SHOULD just work, it dosent appear any different from a dual head setup with only one monitor
[22:29] <Barnabas> linux_noob, try typing glxinfo in a terminal
[22:30] <Barnabas> it should state the package to install
[22:30] <MrUnagi> !postfix
[22:30] <linux_noob> installing atm
[22:30] <linux_noob> Reading package lists... Done
[22:30] <linux_noob> Building dependency tree
[22:30] <linux_noob> Reading state information... Done
[22:30] <prower> hello :> i have a roland um-1 usb-to-midi cable, it works fine in windows but in ubuntu it's not appearing in jack at all? lsusb just lists ID 0582:012a Roland Corp.
[22:30] <linux_noob> E: Couldn't find package glxinfo
[22:30] <pfifo> Havok, an I mean there isnt a KVM withc or any weird hardware controlling output, it seems to be a simple as if the good one has output the crap one dosent
[22:30] <Barnabas> linux_noob, no the pkg is not called glxinfo
[22:31] <linux_noob> The program 'glxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[22:31] <linux_noob> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[22:31] <linux_noob> ahh
[22:31] <kroq-gar78> oops sorry
[22:31] <kyan> How can I see what is happening during the display of the plymouth splash screen during ubuntu boot? The splash screen is displaying interminably with no change other than the orange and white dots alternating. I am using ubuntu 10.10.
[22:31] <pfifo> !enter | linux_noob
[22:31] <kroq-gar78> pfifo: didn't know that one existed :P
[22:31] <linux_noob> oops, sorry
[22:31] <Barnabas> linux_noob, that util is very very handy when fault finding your gpu driver
[22:31] <MK``> How do I change the language encoding in gedit? When I enter foreign characters it comes out wrong when I view it in a browser.
[22:31]  * pfifo gives kroq-gar78 an oatmeal cream pie
[22:32] <kroq-gar78> uhhh....
[22:32] <Havok> pfifo, its a .run file
[22:32] <Havok> what should i do?
[22:32] <kroq-gar78> what's that mean? sorry if I did something wrong...
[22:32] <Amoz> Havok, ./file.run
[22:32] <pfifo> Havok, no thats not right
[22:32] <linux_noob> kool, installed now, i typed glxinfo but i don't wanna paste that in here!
[22:33] <MrUnagi> i don't understand, after issuing MAIL=/home/fmaster/Maildir i can no longer receive mail
[22:33] <Barnabas> linux_noob, try to do a glxinfo | grep vendor
[22:33] <Barnabas> perhaps a glxinfo | grep direct
[22:33] <pfifo> Havok, im sorry but i onyl run nvidia, i cant tell you how to get ATI working, but i can tell you that you need to get AIT drivers installed, and then write an xorg.conf file to tell X to use X drivers with Y device
[22:33] <Barnabas> linux_noob, but use pastebin or paste.ubuntu.com
[22:34] <linux_noob> server glx vendor string: SGI, client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI, OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project
[22:34] <kroq-gar78> !pastebin | linux_noob
[22:34] <edbian> Havok: what card do you have?
[22:34] <chrisyboy> hi,i was here earlier, what i need to know is can i delete a partition with the swap partition on it?
[22:34] <Havok> edbian, a 4500M and a 5750
[22:34] <pfifo> edbian, he has a weird dualie device http://pastebin.com/CdTKWE5U
[22:35] <edbian> chrisyboy: the swap partition is a partition.  You can delete it.  You cannot have a partition with a partition on it unless you are talking about extended partitions
[22:35] <edbian> Havok: ...and ?
[22:35] <edbian> dualie?
[22:35] <MrUnagi> i don't understand, after issuing MAIL=/home/fmaster/Maildir i can no longer receive mail nor cd into /hom/fmaster/Maildir/new
[22:36] <chrisyboy> edbian, yes its extended, i want to delete it then grow sda1 and put a new swap in?
[22:36] <linux_noob> http://paste.ubuntu.com/650876/
[22:36] <claviusmond> am i the only one that thinks konqueror sucks?
[22:36] <edbian> chrisyboy: sure, go for it
[22:36] <kroq-gar78> !offtopic | claviusmond
[22:37] <Barnabas> linux_noob, looks like the oss drivers to me
[22:37] <edbian> chrisyboy: delete the swap, (and everything in the extended) then you can remove the extended partitions
[22:37] <Havok> is there any way to find out if the kernel is 64 bit? or 32 bit?
[22:37] <MrUnagi> is there a mail support channel? lol
[22:37] <Barnabas> allthough I have not had a Radeon gpu in a while - can anyone verify?
[22:37] <Amoz> Havok, uname -a
[22:37] <chrisyboy> edbian, thank you
[22:37] <edbian> chrisyboy: sure
[22:38] <Havok> will ubuntu update t be 64 bit or should i have installed that out of the box?
[22:38] <edbian> Havok: You cannot switch from 32 bit to 64 bit.  YOu have to re-install
[22:38] <Havok> k thanks
[22:38] <edbian> Barnabas: verify what?  I have an ATI radeon 9550
[22:39] <Barnabas> edbian, the output of glxinfo with the oss driver on a Radeon gpu
[22:39] <Barnabas> edbian, I am on a NVIDIA GPU
[22:40] <edbian> Barnabas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650881/
[22:40] <linux_noob> so would i be able to configure it? i can try the flgrx again if someone would be able to assist me on the way...
[22:41] <Barnabas> edbian, thanks - that confirms it linux_noob, you are using the oss driver
[22:41] <edbian> Barnabas: 'radeon' is the name of the oss driver.  You can also use sudo lspci -k or lsmod | grep rad
[22:42] <Barnabas> edbian, yes but it will not tell you if it is just loaded or being used
[22:42] <ciss> i've tried to add a commit=60 option to my fstab, but it gets overridden by an appended commit=0. this is the fstab content and mount output: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/445095/
[22:42] <linux_noob> damn, that means the driver just isn't that good then...
[22:42] <edbian> Barnabas: If it's in use lspci -k lists it as a driver in use, not a module available.  lsmod does not list drivers that are not in use
[22:43] <bollullera> ¿por?
[22:43] <ciss> it's an lvm logical volume. does lvm add that option?
[22:43] <daniel__> how do i make a file executable if it says its read only
[22:43] <linux_noob> has anyone got experience with flgrx?
[22:43] <Barnabas> edbian, well for example to test if you have direct rendering enabled
[22:43] <edbian> daniel__: depends who owns it :)
[22:43] <Barnabas> glxinfo | grep direct
[22:43] <edbian> linux_noob: I do
[22:43] <bryce910> is there any network traffic sniffer like tcpdump that doesn't require root to run?
[22:43] <Barnabas> stuff like that
[22:43] <edbian> Barnabas: That is more detail :)
[22:43] <dli> linux_noob, I think fglrx doesn't support old cards any more
[22:43] <Barnabas> exactly
[22:43] <AlanKey> hi wold anyone be able to tell me the commands to upgrade to 11.04??
[22:43] <chrisyboy2> edbian, also what is the swap partition for? do i have to make it extended or can it be primary? when you have the time to answer thanks
[22:44] <edbian> bryce910: No, they are all going to need root to run
[22:44] <linux_noob> is x800 old enough?
[22:44] <kroq-gar78> AlanKey: gui or command line only?
[22:44] <dli> AlanKey, do-release-upgrade
[22:44] <Barnabas> edbian, but necessary info with the new desktop
[22:44] <daniel__> edbian, ok so i have the iso file to morrowind i burned the game to a disc using brasero and now i would like to play it with wine
[22:44] <bryce910> edbian: Is there a way to get past that?
[22:44] <lion42> Hi, sos I need help. I switched my hd from my old laptop (a thinkpad SL420) to my new laptop (a thinkpad t20i) and now my screen resolution is permanently stuck at 1024x768 and my fn keys don't work. I can't find a fix on google. Anyone got anything?
[22:44] <MrUnagi> !mail
[22:44] <edbian> chrisyboy2: It is used to store things when there is no more ram left and to suspend to disk (hibernation).  It can be primary or logical
[22:44] <dli> linux_noob, yes, x800 is the r300 family (radeon r5xx)
[22:44] <edbian> Barnabas: :)
[22:44] <lion42> Er, a t420i
[22:44] <dli> linux_noob, fglrx dropped support for r5xx and older years ago
[22:45] <edbian> daniel__: It should be executable even though it is read only.
[22:45] <chrisyboy2> edbian, i just create it then im done it works on its own or do i have to edit somthing?
[22:45] <edbian> daniel__: It will be read only because it is on a CD
[22:45] <edbian> bryce910: Not that I am aware of
[22:45] <linux_noob> :(  well then i may just get a new nvidia, i hear they have good support?
[22:45] <MrUnagi> can anyone help me set up postfix on ubuntu, i am having some issues
[22:45] <dli> linux_noob, I don't know, I don't touch nvidia at all
[22:46] <coz_> linux_noob,  in terminal     lspci | grep -i vga
[22:46] <edbian> chrisyboy2: Swap is unique in that the system finds it at boot time all on its own.
[22:46] <ciss> nevermind, found the reason: /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/journal-commit appends the option
[22:46] <linux_noob> well are the radeonhd series compatible enough?
[22:46] <edbian> linux_noob: why not try fglrx?
[22:46] <chrisyboy2> edbian, nice one thank you
[22:46] <linux_noob> fglrx no longer supported...
[22:46] <edbian> chrisyboy2: sure :)
[22:46] <coz_> linux_noob,   well   Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). For 7000 to HDxxxx series cards, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. HD* cards are also supported by the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[22:46] <edbian> linux_noob: have you tried it?
[22:46] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: somehwere I heard they were better supported than ATI, but not too sure... I haven't really had any probs with my comps yet
[22:46] <Barnabas> linux_noob, buing a new gpu sounds to me as the last resort
[22:46] <Barnabas> nvidia have good support
[22:46] <dli> linux_noob, you may try your luck with radeonhd
[22:47] <edbian> linux_noob: yes, try radeonhd
[22:47] <kroq-gar78> linux_noob: I personally like NVidia better though. never had a problem with them
[22:47] <Barnabas> even the new optimus setups work with the bumblebee extensions
[22:47] <dli> linux_noob, or older version of radeon
[22:47] <linux_noob> @edbian  ye tried many times.
[22:47] <edbian> linux_noob: sorry to hear that! :(
[22:47] <coz_> linux_noob,  go to the #radeon channel also
[22:48] <Barnabas> linux_noob, could you msg me directly?
[22:48] <linux_noob> 0.0 radeon channel?
[22:48] <linux_noob> ye
[22:48] <AlanKey> kroq terminal only
[22:48] <subsume> How do I know where a package installs something? I cant' find libmemcached
[22:48] <dli> linux_noob, yes, the #radeon people was quite helping, if you report info requested, they can fix it in days
[22:48] <linux_noob> this is my first time on irc, how do i get in radeon channel
[22:49] <edbian> linux_noob:  /join #radeon
[22:49] <Andy-at-home> anyone got time to help an idiot? ive finally managed to retrieve an error message when my android phone connects to my pptpd daemon (on my vps) but I'm not sure about this error, im assuming it has to do with the ip addresses ive tried to use. http://pastebin.com/BKf8q3sF
[22:49] <linux_noob> thank you very much guys, i reall am pleased to change over to linux!
[22:49] <Python> :-)
[22:50] <lion42> So I'm still having an issue. I switched my hd from my old laptop (a thinkpad SL420) to my new laptop (a thinkpad t420i) and now my screen resolution is permanently stuck at 1024x768 and my fn keys don't work. I can't find a fix on google. Anyone got anything? This is the first time after a long time on ubuntu that I've had a problem google couldn't fix.
[22:51] <dli> lion42, first, can you reset display mode, in Preferences menu or in command line: xrandr
[22:51] <lion42> "Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[22:51] <lion42> "
[22:51] <lion42> but I know that's not right, as it works on windows above that
[22:52] <kroq-gar78> lion42: have you installed drivers if needed yet?
[22:52] <Andy-at-home> noone else understands this error? http://pastebin.com/BKf8q3sF
[22:52] <lion42> kroq-gar78, the driver-searching tool isn't showing me that I need any drivers. All my past laptops have worked out of the box except for a couple wireless cards, so I'm a total fish out of water here, lol
[22:52] <lion42> oh, they're gone.
[22:53] <edbian> Andy-at-home: what error are you asking about?  The first one? 'not enough ip addresses given?'
[22:54] <AirandSea> linux_noob: Anonymous is always watching - Have a good time.
[22:54] <AirandSea> edbian: Change nick
[22:54] <Andy-at-home> im assuming the 1 was enough for just my client
[22:54] <linux_noob> im a little worried 0.o
[22:54] <edbian> Andy-at-home: Yeah I have no idea :(
[22:55] <AirandSea> edbian now.
[22:55] <Andy-at-home> GRE: read(fd=6,buffer=805a540,len=8196) from PTY failed: status = -1 error = Input/output error, usually caused by unexpected termination of pppd
[22:55] <edbian> AirandSea: now what?
[22:55] <edbian> Andy-at-home: no clue
[22:55] <AirandSea> edbian: Change nick now.
[22:55] <rww> AirandSea: stop that, please :(
[22:56] <dli> lion42, check your xorg.conf, maybe, 1024x768 is hard set
[22:56] <pfifo> AirandSea, stop while your ahead ;)
[22:56] <lion42> dli, okay, this is apparently me-being-stupid-hour. How do I do that?
[22:56] <AirandSea> My people can get angry :)
[22:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> AirandSea, stop before one of the channel gods show up and hurt you
[22:56] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[22:56] <dli> lion42, have a look in /etc/X11
[22:56] <ritzz> is there any appl to create a cloud network with contacts that will aloud to connect to different peers?
[22:56] <edbian> hahah
[22:57] <AirandSea> Then they pull the electrical current ;)
[22:57] <naptastic> fglrx won't install; it says "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed." But the source and headers *are* installed. What's missing?
[22:57] <AirandSea> So be nice
[22:58] <kyan> Hmmm. My boot process is freezing on "Checking battery state… [OK] Edit /etc/default/fetchmail to start/stop fetchmail". What could cause this?
[22:58] <edbian> kyan: Your system is all sorts of messed up! :(
[22:59] <edbian> kyan: I think there is an error in /etc/default/fetchmail
[22:59] <lion42> dli, not finding the file in the folder. -_-
[22:59] <kyan> edbian: No kidding. I'm getting really frustrated because I have been stuck using this mac I have no idea how to use for *three weeks* now since my machine got confused.
[22:59] <dli> lion42, anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[22:59]  * naptastic reboots into a stock kernel
[23:00] <f4rr3ll> fala noiado
[23:00] <lion42> dli, no
[23:00] <edbian> kyan: Can you boot the recovery mode and edit that file?
[23:00] <kyan> edbian: well I guess I should look on the bright side — at least it's not MS Windows, which I have no idea at all how to use.
[23:00] <dli> lion42, what's your video card?
[23:00] <edbian> kyan: You don't know how to use any OS! :P
[23:01] <kyan> edbian: I can, and already tried. It still displayed the error. So I think I'll remove fetchmail.
[23:01] <rizzuh_laptop> Several minutes after login I am asked for my password to unlock the "default" keyring. Why? What does that keyring store and why can't I set it up be unlocked automatically after login?
[23:01] <edbian> kyan: and does it say in that file?
[23:02] <kyan> edbian: Hey, no disses! I do know how to use ubuntu — or wait a minute, if I did I would n't be asking here :-D
[23:02] <coz_> rizzuh_laptop,  to you have the system to log in automatically?
[23:02] <edbian> kyan: :)
[23:02] <Ex-Opesa> lm-sensors show fan2/fan3/fan4, I have only 1. How can I modify sensor's output and remove fan2/3/4?
[23:02] <coz_> rizzuh_laptop,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot
[23:03] <lion42> dli, intel hd 3000 integrated
[23:03] <kyan> edbian: Every line is commented out except START_DAEMON=no
[23:03] <AirandSea> A waterglass tide.
[23:03] <bazhang> AirandSea, what?
[23:04] <edbian> kyan: yeah just remove that package.  I don't know the correct syntax (stop, start, false, true, no, yes)
[23:04] <rww> AirandSea: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Please take other chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[23:04] <bazhang> AirandSea, nonsense to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:06] <derp> how can i merge 2 folders in Ubuntu?
[23:06] <edbian> derp: drag the contents of one into the other
[23:07] <Python> ctrl+a ctrl+x and ctrl+v at destination
[23:08] <Alexandra13> Hey there guys, is there anybody that can help me with Ubuntu?
[23:08] <edbian> Alexandra13: that's what we do!
[23:08] <edbian> !ask
[23:08] <bazhang> Alexandra13, ask a question first
[23:08] <pappa_bear> Alexandra13, just ask the question
[23:08] <blackhawk> anyone here has experience with Internet connection / wired networking issues?
[23:08] <Alexandra13> Lol sorry
[23:08] <edbian> beat ya'll to it
[23:08] <edbian> Alexandra13: no worries
[23:08]  * pappa_bear lolz
[23:09] <lion42> ... oh, irc.
[23:09] <bazhang> blackhawk, more details please
[23:09] <tru3fate> can anyone help please. how do i get netfliz to work on Ubuntu 11
[23:09] <lion42> dli, got anything?
[23:09] <edbian> tru3fate: You can't :(
[23:09] <bazhang> tru3fate, netfliz?
[23:09] <kyan> edbian: Dang. Now it's stuck on "Checking battery state… [OK]"
[23:09] <edbian> bazhang: netflix I presume
[23:09] <bazhang> edbian, thanks
[23:09] <edbian> kyan: Yeah, turn off quite and splash to get more errors
[23:09] <tru3fate> netflix
[23:09] <edbian> bazhang: hahah sure
[23:09] <bazhang> tru3fate, you cannot
[23:10] <lion42> tru3fate, you can run windows on a vm and watch netflix at 1 frame per minute
[23:10] <lion42> if you so desire.
[23:10] <lion42> :P
[23:10] <edbian> lion42: haha
[23:10] <Alexandra13> Well basically, I have 3 OS's. I'm on Windows 7 now, I am using VBox to run DamnSmallLinux and Ubuntu. The first two have full internet access. Ubuntu doesn't. I'm using an ssh tunnel to get internet to firefox. It works fine. The problem is that I want to use KVIrc and it won't connect to any servers.  I don't know how to sort this out.
[23:10] <kyan> edbian: Already did! I think whatever's getting stuck in its gizzard is what comes on *after* the battery check and the fetchmail daemon, and it just doesn't list it until it's done.
[23:10] <edbian> kyan: That's what I think too.
[23:11] <el_seano> Hey guys, I'm having some issues getting rhythmbox to run on this laptop.  Trying to run from a terminal with debugging turned on spews out this: http://pastie.org/2261231
[23:11] <edbian> kyan: quite and splash are removed? Usually it doesn't show the items like it is if quite is removed.  It shows lower level stuff
[23:11] <derpyshitty> How can i merge 2 folders in Ubuntu?
[23:11] <lion42> tru3fate, hulu+ works fine, and has an app that works with linux if I recall correctly. or you can dual boot into windows if you really need netflix.
[23:11] <edbian> derpyshitty: Didn't I just tell you?
[23:11] <qin> Is here someone from NY, please PM me.
[23:11] <edbian> kyan: Are you using fgrlx ?
[23:11] <el_seano> so far, I've tried apt-get purge rhythmbox, and reinstalling, deleting everything rhythmbox related that lives in my homedir, and specificying blank db and playlist files with commandline options.
[23:11] <rww> qin: try #ubuntu-us-ny
[23:11] <pappa_bear> @lion42 : i do that too (hulu+)
[23:12] <bazhang> !loco > qin
[23:12] <qin> rww: Thanks
[23:12] <el_seano> all results in the same output.
[23:12] <alex--> Alexandra13: set the network connection on your virtualbox to 'network birdged adapter'
[23:12] <tru3fate> rgr thanx
[23:12] <edbian> kyan: When it gets stuck can you ctrl + alt + F1  ?
[23:12] <alex--> derpyshitty: i'm not sure about which version you are using, but in 10.04 you will be asked what to do (merge, copy, skip)
[23:12] <kyan> edbian: If those are the things that go immediately before nomodeset, yes. I thought it was quiet, not quite, though, but that's probably just my brain being weird..
[23:12] <edbian> kyan: Oh, typo, it's quiet you're right.
[23:12] <lion42> alex--, its a troll that keeps getting banned. not a real question.
[23:12] <blackhawk> i have a gigabyte motherboard with built in ethernet which i am connected to,the internet connection is really unstable and cuts of every now and then and comes back after a min or few sec,when i do a ping test it gives normal values for sometime then cuts of and suddenly the lagged numbers come out like 6000ms or so and sometimes it says unable to reach the server (google),when browsing or online gaming it's really unstable,even here on irc it lags like a
[23:12] <blackhawk> min and a whole bunch of msgs come out
[23:12] <alex--> lion42: who, derpyshitty or alexandra?
[23:13] <edbian> blackhawk: sounds like the cable is bad
[23:13] <Alexandra13> Well I assure you i'm not a troll
[23:13] <lion42> alex--, derp
[23:13] <alex--> what means derp?
[23:13] <edbian> hahahahah
[23:13] <edbian> indeed
[23:13] <kyan> edbian: I don't know about fgrlx — google says it's an ati driver and I have an ati card so probably, but thta wouldn't be the problem probably because I have had graphics working fine before.
[23:13] <lion42> ...lol
[23:13] <edbian> kyan: can you ctrl + alt + F1  when it's stuck?
[23:13] <kyan> edbian: ctl+alt+f1 worked.
[23:13] <Alexandra13> Alex, can I PM you?
[23:14] <edbian> kyan: log in
[23:14] <edbian> run dmesg
[23:14] <alex--> ye, shure
[23:14] <alex--> sure *
[23:14] <edbian> kyan: look at the end for errors
[23:15] <kyan> edbian: Only possible error on last line: [42.767364] EXT4-fs (sda1): remounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0
[23:15] <edbian> kyan: Well that's bad.  It had to remount / as read only.
[23:15] <edbian> kyan: What other errors are in the output of dmesg?
[23:16] <edbian> kyan: You can do shift + page up
[23:16] <kyan> edbian: Everything else has to do with vboxdrv.
[23:16] <edbian> kyan: some samples?
[23:18] <kyan> edbian: Well there's that trying to deactivate nmi watchdog thing, and then it sais: Fount 2 prociessor cores. fAsync=0 offMin=0x4e8 offMax=0x15a8 TSC mode is 'synchronous', kernal timer mode is 'normal' Successfully loaded version 3.2.8_OSE (interface 0x00140001)., then the EXT4-fs mount error.
[23:18] <edbian> kyan: that is not an error
[23:18] <kyan> edbian: I bet the read-only problem is why nano was complaining about no such file or directory earlier.
[23:18] <lion42> SO my problem is still up and roaring, and it appears the person who was helping me has wandered off the IRCs. My screen resolution is stuck at 1024x768. I just switched this hd (which already had ubuntu on it, and was working fine) from my thinkpad sl420 to my new thinkpad t420i
[23:18] <kyan> edbian: No I think it's just telling me what my configuration is.
[23:19] <edbian> kyan: nano was weird earlier.  I don't know if this is related.  The read-only problem i likely the product of something else bad happening
[23:19] <kyan> edbian: Dang! What could it be?
[23:19] <lion42> It wont give me any other resolution options, xrandr tells me: "Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768"
[23:19] <edbian> kyan: I need more errors to figure it out!
[23:19] <edbian> kyan: Give me all of the errors one at a timne
[23:19] <kyan> edbian: Oh no! Ok so I will go through that file from the beginning for errors.
[23:19] <alex--> kyan: i recommend you to put them on pastebin
[23:20] <edbian> kyan: pastebin will make it faster
[23:20] <el_seano> Hey guys, I'm having some issues getting rhythmbox to run on this laptop.  Trying to run from a terminal with debugging turned on spews out this: http://pastie.org/2261231
[23:20] <el_seano> so far, I've tried apt-get purge rhythmbox, and reinstalling, deleting everything rhythmbox related that lives in my homedir, and specificying blank db and playlist files with commandline options.
[23:20] <kyan> edbian: Ok.
[23:20] <edbian> kyan: sure
[23:20] <el_seano> all results in the same output.
[23:21] <edbian> el_seano: see segmentation fault?  That means the program tried to access ram locations it is not allowed to access.
[23:22] <adubz> what is the command to run to launch network manager
[23:22] <Khisanth> that could be from the plugins
[23:22] <adubz> i do update-menus and i dont see network-manager
[23:22] <Andy-at-home> ok, im receiving GRE errors when I try to connect to my pptpd daemon so im assuming there is a something along the route that is blocking the GRE packets, theres a good chance that its my mobile network provider (tmobile) but i would like to make sure its not my vps. how can i check if GRE packets are blocked?
[23:22] <mattalexx> I am setting up a home network. Each computer will have a subdomain of ma0.me. I'm setting up an Ubuntu machine called bird.ma0.me. Should the "Your computer's name" field have "bird" or "bird.ma0.me"? king on #httpd
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[23:22] <mattalexx> * Topic for #httpd set by barefoot!~barefoot@unaffiliated/barefoot at Mon May 23 06:19:45 2011
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[23:22] <FloodBot1> mattalexx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <edbian> ?
[23:23] <rww> o.O
[23:23] <mattalexx> Whoa, so sorry. My clipboard had different stuff than I thought
[23:23] <edbian> mattalexx: ha
[23:23] <mattalexx> My real question is:
[23:23] <mattalexx> I am setting up a home network. Each computer will have a subdomain of ma0.me. I'm setting up an Ubuntu machine called bird.ma0.me. Should the "Your computer's name" field have "bird" or "bird.ma0.me"? http://i.imgur.com/UF36P.png
[23:23] <Nikyo> Hi :-)
[23:23] <Khisanth> adubz: here it's called 'NetworkManager' :)
[23:24] <edbian> mattalexx: nice arrow :)
[23:24] <mattalexx> Thanks
[23:24] <com64> I'm trying to compile something, but ./configure fails: http://pastebin.com/axkNYecN . My config.log: http://pastebin.com/aQ8DH0hX . I've spent three days trying to get this to work...
[23:24] <rww> com64: install the package "build-essential"
[23:24] <com64> did.
[23:24] <littlebearz> mattalexx: it doesn'r really matter as long as your hostname is bird.ma0.me
[23:25] <com64> btw, I'm cross-compiling
[23:25] <mattalexx> littlebearz, What exactly is that field setting?
[23:25] <com64> also, I've cross-compiled the exact same thing for a different platform without problems.
[23:25] <robinsch> :p
[23:25] <littlebearz> mattalexx: for mine, I put littlebearz while it serves vpn.xxw.ca
[23:26] <littlebearz> mattalexx: its up to the DNS to route to the correct IP and your webserver to accept the vhost
[23:27] <el_seano> edbian: That's not terribly specific though, is it?  And how would I go about determing which parts of the RAM are inaccessible to just this program?
[23:28] <edbian> el_seano: Well it's really more like the programmer did not do his job well.  It's a bug.  (Most likely).  But you can get the source if you'd like.  It is not something a non-programmer could fix.
[23:28] <edbian> el_seano: If you wanna learn about what ram a program can access and which it cannot get a book about operating systems.  Memory management is a huge deal in developing an OS
[23:29] <edbian> el_seano: I don't fully understand it so I can't explain much more than that.
[23:29] <Andy-at-home> why dont i have iptables installed in a default ubuntu 10.04?
[23:29] <Khisanth> el_seano: you can try disabling all the plugins first
[23:29] <edbian> Andy-at-home: It is not a package.  It's built into the kernel
[23:29] <edbian> Andy-at-home: sudo iptables -L
[23:30] <Andy-at-home> does nothing
[23:30] <edbian> Andy-at-home: sudo iptables -L  does nothing?
[23:30] <el_seano> Khisanth: disabling the plugins without running the program would entail moving or removing them I think.  I tried using rhythmbox with the --dry-run option, which I sort of figured would load it without any plugins or user settings, but no such luck,.
[23:30] <Andy-at-home> lol, aye, 'command not found'
[23:30] <edbian> Andy-at-home: you're using sudo ?
[23:31] <Andy-at-home> indeed
[23:31] <edbian> Andy-at-home: What os are you running?
[23:31] <el_seano> edbian: It seems to me that the programs running under init should have access to the memory detailed by `free`, yeah/
[23:31] <Andy-at-home> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \l
[23:31] <el_seano> ?
[23:31] <Khisanth> el_seano: well the only point of that is to determine if the segfault is from rb or one of the plugins
[23:31] <edbian> Andy-at-home: oh, look at that, it is a package :/
[23:31] <el_seano> ah, I see
[23:31] <edbian> el_seano: It's more elaborate than that :)
[23:31] <edbian> :P
[23:31] <el_seano> edbian: fair enough :)
[23:32] <edbian> el_seano: :)
[23:32] <Khisanth> el_seano: if you replace "memory" with "money" your rhythmbox is attempting a bank robbery :)
[23:32] <Andy-at-home> this because its a VPS? maybe iptables controlled by the host operating system?
[23:33] <Andy-at-home> installed now
[23:33] <el_seano> ah ha!
[23:33] <edbian> Andy-at-home: this is not default ubuntu
[23:33] <edbian> el_seano: ah-ha ?
[23:33] <Andy-at-home> thats mental, no logs until i install rsyslog and no iptables
[23:33] <el_seano> so removing rhythmbox-plugins, rhythmbox-plugin-cd-recorder and rhythmbox-ubuntu-one-store let me start up rhythmbox
[23:33] <el_seano> had to be all three
[23:34] <el_seano> doing one at a time (well, incrementally anyway) was still spewing out segmentation faults
[23:34] <Khisanth> could have been the last one removed :)
[23:34] <Viper550> Okay, I'm on Oneric with Virtualbox and guest additions on, why isn't it going to unity 3d mode?
[23:34] <edbian> el_seano: there ya go
[23:34] <edbian> el_seano: Tell those plugin devs they don't know what they're doing.
[23:35] <el_seano> edbian: And how!
[23:35] <edbian> el_seano: ha
[23:35] <ciunix> #ubuntu-it
[23:35] <Khisanth> just make sure the packager didn't patch anything first ...
[23:37] <Andy-at-home> after making changes to iptables do i need to do anything? reboot?
[23:37] <edbian> Andy-at-home: no
[23:38] <Alexandra13> Does anybody know anything about Virtualbox and ssh tunnels?
[23:38] <edbian> Andy-at-home: infact, if you do, it gets wiped out
[23:38] <Andy-at-home> lol, ah cool, thanks
[23:38] <giuseppe__> hi all
[23:39] <wildbat> hi
[23:39] <kyan> edbian: http://pastebin.com/Hfe1jJsy
[23:39] <giuseppe__> anybody can explain me how to install a git server in a my computer? not github.. but a repository like cvs but in git
[23:39] <edbian> kyan: reading...
[23:39] <edbian> kyan: what the heck is HEST table not found?
[23:39] <Khisanth> giuseppe__: #git would be better for that
[23:40] <kyan> edbian: That included anything that looked like an error to me, or looked like it might be of interest.
[23:40] <kyan> edbian: I don't have any clue.
[23:40] <edbian> kyan: It's interesting
[23:40] <kyan> edbian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/599715
[23:41] <Python> query phrik
[23:41] <Python> oops
[23:42] <edbian> kyan: Comment that it's still there for you as well.  put your uname -a for them to see.  use an older kernel.
[23:43] <Alexandra13> Nobody knows anything about ssh commands?
[23:43] <edbian> Alexandra13: I do
[23:43] <Alexandra13> Then may I PM you?
[23:43] <MrUnagi> has anyone here successfully set up a mail server?
[23:44] <edbian> Can we talk in the channel?
[23:44] <Alexandra13> Ok
[23:44] <edbian> Alexandra13: :)
[23:44] <Alexandra13> What is the following doing?: ssh -N -L
[23:45] <ionite> Can I install Natty from my external HDD? Using it as a USB boot up device?
[23:45] <lion42> ionite, yes, you should be able to.
[23:45] <edbian> Alexandra13: well -N does not execute a remote command.  It is used to open ports
[23:45] <ionite> but my HDD is NTFS
[23:46] <Alexandra13> That sounds about right
[23:46] <edbian> Alexandra13: This is in man ssh.  -L specifics what addresses / ports to forward
[23:46] <KM0201> ionite: are you wanting to install "FROM" (ie, use the usb to install to an internal drive) or install "TO" the external... Either way, the usb will have to be formatted.
[23:47] <ionite> can i install from a SD card then? the concept is still the same, USB?
[23:47] <Alexandra13> I see, so in the following command it's forwarding port 9050 to an internal IP?
[23:47] <Alexandra13> ssh -N -L 9050:10.0.2.2:9050 root@10.0.3.1
[23:47] <KM0201> ionite: , i thnk so.. never used an sdcard, but i don't see why not
[23:48] <lion42> ionite, if your computer can boot from your card reader, which I suspect some cannot?
[23:48] <lion42> But if it does, sure why not.
[23:48] <edbian> Alexandra13: That is a typo
[23:48] <ionite> cuz my thumbdrive is only 128mb but my SD is 8GB
[23:48] <KM0201> ionite: agree w/ lion42 as long as your machine can boot the sdcard, i don't see why you couldn't boot it.
[23:48] <edbian> Alexandra13: 9050:10.0.2.2:9050  you specify the port twice
[23:49] <Alexandra13> It works though
[23:49] <KM0201> ionite: i'd try following the steps to create a bootable USB, but instead of selecting a USB device, select your SD card
[23:49] <ionite> i tried booting from SD many times but i kept encountering error such as vesamenu32: com32r image error
[23:49] <KM0201> ionite: worst that happens, it doesn't work
[23:49] <edbian> Alexandra13: curious
[23:49] <kyan> edbian: Sorry what do you mean?
[23:49] <edbian> Alexandra13: you don't need the precceding 9050
[23:49] <edbian> kyan: Comment on the bug, use an older kernel.
[23:49] <edbian> kyan: What don't you understand?
[23:49] <lion42> ionite, are you planning on installing ubuntu to the hd in your computer, or are you trying to run it off of sd/externaldrive/whatever?
[23:49] <ionite> or recently another error is that: Loading Bootimage                           and the screen freezes there.
[23:50] <kyan> edbian: Oh, the bug. Sorry! Duh.
[23:50] <Alexandra13> I see, but it won't affect the command will it? Even if redundant
[23:50] <edbian> kyan: ha, sure
[23:50] <ionite> i'm installing onto my C drive from my SD card
[23:50] <edbian> Alexandra13: apparently not
[23:50] <lion42> ionite, why not just pick up a cd?
[23:50] <Khisanth> would be odd if it did
[23:50] <lion42> Or a 5$ 2gb usb stick
[23:50] <ionite> i don't have a CD writer
[23:50] <Alexandra13> Ok then, so I'm not too worried about it. Maybe the latter 9050 doesn't need to be there. What's the comman actually doing?
[23:51]  * lion42 shrugs. that's what I would do, in any case.
[23:51] <KM0201> lion42: i agree...
[23:51] <edbian> Alexandra13: forwards the port 9050 on address 10.whatever to the server your sshing to.  I'm not very sure on the details though
[23:52] <Khisanth> not quite ...
[23:52] <Khisanth> that is sshing to .3.1 but the forwarding is to .2.2 :)
[23:52] <edbian> aaah
[23:53] <Alexandra13> Ok then, well let's say that this tunnel is providing 9050 with the internet, does this mean I can modify other applications to use the same port so that they also use the internet?
[23:54] <kyan> edbian: Like this?
[23:54] <kyan> edbian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/599715/comments/14
[23:54] <edbian> kyan: lookgs good
[23:54] <edbian> quite ubottu
[23:55] <buhman> I have an active-backup port-trunk/bond and I want to arbitrarily select which interface I want to be the active slave
[23:55] <kyan> edbian: I don't think that's what is keeping me from getting a graphical login to work though. It seems like quite a popular problem.
[23:55] <Khisanth> Alexandra13: sounds like you are trying to do transparent proxying
[23:55] <Alexandra13> Khisanth: You're correct.
[23:55] <edbian> kyan: yes.  switch to ctrl + alt + F1 and run sudo gdm
[23:56] <kyan> ctrl+alt+f1 did nothing.
[23:56] <duli> What package should I install so firefox changes its language to the same of my system?
[23:56] <edbian> kyan: You can't switch to ctrl + alt + F1 anymore?  you could before?
[23:57] <edbian> kyan: Did you never leave it?
[23:57] <kyan> edbian: /usr/sbin/gdm-binary: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgio-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_mapped_file_unref
[23:57] <kyan> edbian: I don't think I ever did leave it.
[23:57] <edbian> kyan: That's the error you got?
[23:57] <edbian> kyan: sudo apt-get update
[23:57] <kyan> Yes
[23:57] <edbian> kyan: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[23:57] <Alexandra13> Khisanth: So far it's been set up to work. Ubuntu cannot connect to the internet, except through two ports where firefox is connected to. The ssh commands make this possible. My problems is that I can't get KVIrc to do the same.
[23:58] <kyan> edbian: Ok, thanks. I'll have to leave for a bit (only one machine can have internet at a time) though.
[23:58] <edbian> kyan: ok
[23:58] <Khisanth> Alexandra13: do you know what kind of proxy you are dealing with?
[23:58] <edbian> kyan: if it doesn't upgrade gdm you should sudo apt-get purge gdm and then sudo apt-get install gdm
[23:58] <KM0201> ionite: not sure where you live, but the CVS near me, they have 4gig thumb drives for like $8.. they're made by Lexar they work fine
[23:59] <Alexandra13> Khisanth: No. Is there any way I could tell? I didn't set this up myself.
[23:59] <centHOGG> spend $$$