| Unit193 | "Sorry, the program "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter" closed unexpectedly" Would this be something to report? I didn't notice any issues, but I dunno | 00:08 |
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| Unit193 | (Sorry for the incessant buggering) | 00:09 |
| charlie-tca | it's already reported | 00:16 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/811909 | 00:17 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 811909 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in _start()" [High,Confirmed] | 00:17 |
| charlie-tca | keep buggering | 00:17 |
| charlie-tca | if it helps get these bugs reported, it will help | 00:17 |
| * Unit193 is and idiot and needs to remember to search BEFORE asking :facepalms: | 00:17 | |
| charlie-tca | kind of a cryptic name, though | 00:17 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Jockey-gtk is supposed to be in the System menu, right? (And on boot?) | 02:31 |
| charlie-tca | in the system menu as "Additional Drivers | 02:32 |
| Unit193 | (Guess it doesn't matter as long as it's installed | 02:32 |
| Unit193 | Not on this install | 02:32 |
| Unit193 | This is Desktop 32 entire | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | moved it | 02:32 |
| charlie-tca | look in Menu -> Settings -> Additional Drivers, but don't go to settings manager | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | I think it was in a different place on the last install :/ I guess I could have been wrong on that too | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | yup, where ever the Unity guys decide to move things, we get to dig to find them | 02:34 |
| charlie-tca | Did you find it? | 02:35 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, I just thought it was different on my last install (Same day, different CD) | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | might have been | 02:36 |
| Unit193 | I guess this just isn't my day for helping myself | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | heh, some days are like that | 02:36 |
| charlie-tca | been there, done that | 02:39 |
| charlie-tca | I have had days where I had to ask where something so easy as terminal is, every install | 02:39 |
| Unit193 | Should I remove OEM since that might have been user error? | 02:39 |
| charlie-tca | no, leave it there. It shows someone tried to do it, at least | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: we have menu entries Menu -> System -> Xterm and UXterm now in a fresh oneiric install. | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I am going get some rest tonight now. | 03:28 |
| charlie-tca | Have fun. | 03:28 |
| jarnos | Did you get my email to the mailing list? | 19:52 |
| Unit193 | Graphics software (Was: Replacing GIMP) ? Why subject change? | 19:53 |
| jarnos | Unit193, well, neither rawstudio nor geeqie in not a replacement for Gimp. | 19:54 |
| jarnos | They are meant to do different things at least partly. | 19:55 |
| jarnos | I couldn't find any image viewer in Xubuntu 11.04. And image viewer changed in many releases before. | 19:57 |
| Unit193 | Risotto (or something almost close to that) is what it uses | 19:57 |
| jarnos | Unit193, oh, you are correct. I had removed it and did not notice it since xubuntu-desktop meta-package was still installes. | 20:00 |
| jarnos | ^installed. | 20:00 |
| jarnos | It is ristretto | 20:01 |
| jarnos | Risotto is food. | 20:02 |
| knome | interesting discussion | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | Well, I'm a little hungry | 20:03 |
| Unit193 | I would have thought people wouldn't want to remove GIMP | 20:03 |
| knome | i think keeping gimp was kinf of a "response" for ubuntu losing it. | 20:04 |
| knome | it is a good image editor, but it's true that it might not fit the xubuntu ideology | 20:04 |
| knome | on the other hand, we have thunderbird as default mail client and not something else... | 20:05 |
| Unit193 | Thunderbird and Firefox are the best for default IMO | 20:05 |
| knome | but TB *is* heavy and it's not the best for everybody. same goes for gimp | 20:06 |
| Unit193 | If Postler gets an update, it's a simple little client (annoying as it may be) | 20:08 |
| knome | i don't know about that. it's not for me. | 20:10 |
| Unit193 | Quite true, I'm going to stick with alpine and gmail (And a little thunderbird) | 20:11 |
| jarnos | If xubuntu has image editor by default, why not also video editor? | 20:12 |
| knome | jarnos, image editing is far more common than video editing. | 20:15 |
| knome | jarnos, if xubuntu has a file manager, why don't have a comic strip collection manager as well? | 20:15 |
| jarnos | knome, you can manage a comic strip collection by a file manager and/or image viewer. | 20:17 |
| knome | jarnos, you can edit videos with a image editor (newest photoshop) | 20:17 |
| jarnos | knome, image viewing is more common than image editing. Same goes for audio and video. | 20:36 |
| knome | sure. i do think that an os should include an image editor by default. | 20:36 |
| jarnos | knome, what kind of image editor? | 20:40 |
| knome | gimp is okay for me | 20:41 |
| jarnos | BTW they use CinePaint to retouch frames of commercial movies. Xubuntu is featured in its old website: http://www.cinepaint.org/more/ | 20:52 |
| knome | "featured" well yeah.. :) | 20:53 |
| jarnos | knome, nowdays ubuntu does not feature cinepaint; I mean it is unavailabe in repositories. | 20:56 |
| knome | has it ever done it? | 20:57 |
| knome | is cinepaint active, is the question i think | 20:58 |
| knome | iirc it was a bit less actibe for a while at least | 20:58 |
| jarnos | yes, it was in dapper. | 20:58 |
| knome | dapper... | 20:58 |
| jarnos | Maybe it will be back later: http://www.cinepaint.org/more/download.html | 20:59 |
| jarnos | Some activity last year: http://www.cinepaint.org/ | 20:59 |
| knome | meh | 20:59 |
| jarnos | As for those who want advanced image, audio and video editors, next Ubuntu Studio may be an attractive choice, and it will use Xfce as well: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/386600/ubuntu_studio_says_no_unity_adopts_xfce/ | 21:21 |
| knome | are you trying to advertise other os'es in the xubuntu developer channel? :) | 21:23 |
| knome | anyway, why use ubuntu studio, since you can just install the same software in xubuntu... ta-dah! | 21:23 |
| jarnos | Ubuntu Studio project lead is interested in developing working relations with the Xubuntu team: http://dullass.blogspot.com/2011/05/ubuntu-studio-moving-to-xfce.html | 21:33 |
| jarnos | Unit193, for some reason, I have not got the email I sent to the list, or it is just not shown in gmail inbox. | 21:35 |
| jarnos | knome, yes, you can install ubuntustudio-graphics on Xubuntu. That includes Gimp. | 21:48 |
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